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Stephen Mack
For English to evolve, grammarians must die - http://www.zeigen.com/blog...
From my post: "Starting today, I resolve to never make another spelling or grammar flame. For informal forums, I may gently encourage others to stop making such corrections as well." - Stephen Mack
Sweet. As I'm a terrible speller. And generally have bad grammer (and yes I'm misspelling that on purpose. grammar just doesn't seem right to me. Let the evolution begin). :) - Dario Gomez
Dario, I don't think I've ever seen you misspell a word prior to that, so you're far from a terrible speller. I agree "grammar" looks weird. There aren't nearly as many words ending in -ar in English as -er. Kelsey Grammer also has a lot to answer for. But I certainly can get behind your proposal that "grammer" should be a valid substitute for "grammar" from now on. For English to evolve we'll also need to get the spell checks on board. - Stephen Mack
I don't think I have the patients for this. - Brian Johns
If by 'evolve' you mean 'dumb down for the un- and miseducated', I'll take an unevolved English any day of the weak. - Akiva
Certainly took me a while to get past that point of view, Akiva. But to take the first example of my post, why do we put up with irregularities? Why make it so hard for new learners and non-native speakers to learn? WHY do you feel the way you feel beyond wanting others to have to go through the hurdles you went through? - Stephen Mack
That's precisely it, though, Stephen. Flattening the learning curve doesn't make it better and it isn't that I want people to have to go through what I went through: this isn't about me; it's about being educated. Taking this to its horrifying conclusion, you might as well champion for the dismissal of complex words. Why use 'extrapolate' instead of 'explain' or 'loathe' instead of... more... - Akiva
If English is so hard to learn, why do I hear many Polish adults speaking better English here in the UK than British children in schools? Simply because the kids aren't being taught well enough and the resources are too few and too late. The problem lies within the education, not the language itself. - Charley M
Akiva, I'm not advocating the removal of words. I'm advocating simpler spelling -- similar to Benjamin Franklin's original proposal, which I'll link in separately. English evolves over time whether you want it to or not ("doughnut" to "donut" in American English, for example). Is someone "less educated" for wanting spelling to be simpler, so that learners can acquire the language faster? I don't want to rob the language of anything except pointless irregularity. - Stephen Mack
I dated a linguistics major once who was pretty adamant about language needing to be allowed to evolve, and was NOT the type to constantly correct others. However, I think that there's a difference between "letting grammarians die" and having them "loosen up" (losen up? lol) a bit. The bigger question, I think, is how organic we let the evolution be. For example, if we let lolcats-speak gain too much inflooense [sic], we've let the reigns go too much. - George S.
Charlotte, English is objectively more irregular than, say, Spanish or Polish, and is therefore harder to learn. Of course non-native speakers learn English successfully all the time. But for those who learned several languages, ask them which was easier to learn. English has notably higher barriers than many languages because of the pervasive irregularities. We could reduce the amount of time by simplifying, that's all I'm saying. - Stephen Mack
Re: "Bad spelling as a signifier for low intelligence is a deeply-ingrained bias in our culture", It's interesting because my dad is an intellectual, but a terrible speller - [anecdotally] it seems has more to do with personality than actual intelligence. He just has other people (i.e. my mom, a grammarian) proof-read anything he sends out there. That said, in this age of... more... - George S.
I have to go with Akiva on this one. English is hard to learn? Practice. When you practice something it gets "easier" not because the nature if the thing changes but that your capacity to do thing has increased. - Josh Haley from iPhone
English seems to have done OK despite the grammarians: It's use continues to embiggen. - Andy Dustman
Personally I like my education/intelligence to shine through. Although, I do type "slang" in conversational posts. - MicahBear78
Let's look at what rational reason there is to NOT reform and and simplify English spelling. If you've spent any time teaching reading to a young child you know how many irregularities there are. It adds complexity and difficulty, so there are costs, but with what benefit? We have: 1. Tradition. "But we've always spelled things this irregularly." Not true, and not rational. Spelling in... more... - Stephen Mack
Perfect case in point: Josh's comment. FF helpfully marks it as coming from the iPhone. His two typos ("if" instead of "of" and the missing "that") are clearly artifacts of that communication device. But did I understand him? Perfectly (even if I disagree). Why get hung up on that? As long as communication was achieved, that's my new standard of acceptance. Josh is correct that practice... more... - Stephen Mack
And Andy, I love love love that comment. - Stephen Mack
Perhaps the reason you understood Josh's comment despite the errors is because of context. If you were reading it centuries later in isolation there would be room for doubt as to what he really meant. - Trish Haley
Trish, true, but let centuries go by and suddenly you're reading Chaucer: "Whan that Aprille, with hise shoures soote / The droghte of March hath perced to the roote" (http://www.canterburytales.org/canterb...) What a perfect illustration of how spelling changes over time. ("When April with its showers sweet / has pierced the drought of March to the root") - Stephen Mack
Now we have to take into account accents and pronunciations to decipher that. - Trish Haley
Chaucer wasn't just about spelling differences. Take it down the absolute basics and you have phonics, blending the sounds to make a full pronunciation of that word. If simplifying words is the way forward, then the phonics are changed and in turn, so is the word. - Charley M
Charlotte, I agree -- and think that's a good thing, with many advantages, and no disadvantages beyond "that's the way we've done it for a while now." - Stephen Mack
A friend with a linguistics background who uses it practically in his day-to-day life explained the ebb and flow of language (which is mostly an unplanned phenomenon) like this: Language trends toward simplicity if sufficient comprehension is conserved. It moves toward more complexity when ambiguity interferes too greatly. So my theory is there will always be grammarians and anti-grammarians, it's just that their number and degree of influence will also ebb and flow. - Micah
Sorry but if I have to trust a Ste[ph|v]en on this, I'm going to trust Pinker over Mack. - Akiva
Also, well put, Micah. - Akiva
English is still evolving and the UKians will continue blaming the Yanks for ruining the language even tho they themselves were mutilating it long before we existed. :) - Big Joe Silenced
Sounds like you're asking for intelligent design here. You can't get rid of grammarians if you want evolution to work. They're the only natural predators irregularities have. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Wow, Bruce. That's just... wow. You're comparing people who care about the English language with people who don't believe in evolution because of a belief in a creator deity? That's such a wild comparison that my monitors just degaussed themselves. And they're LCD monitors. Are you going to lump mathematicians in here as well? They're bigger sticklers than grammarians are. - Akiva
Spellings I'm not too bothered about, but grammar is an essential part of the written form. Without it the entire meaning of prose gets screwed up. Still, regardless of this and irrespective of how many rules you put into place, a language will change and evolve along with the people that speak it. Imagine how things will change once we take to the stars. - alphaxion
Akiva, Pinker is a nativist -- very very far from a prescriptivist. He describes the evolutionary models of language in great detail. I cannot recall him writing about spelling reform one way or the other. How is he relevant to this discussion? - Stephen Mack
Wait, I'm proposing unnatural predation on irregularities! Brain hurts, must consider. - Stephen Mack
I don't see spelling as independent of syntax. - Akiva
Fine, Akiva, so let's take a few spelling examples. Suppose I'm elected supreme dictator of the universe, and I issue a decree that says from now on, all the "-ight" words in English that rhyme with "night" (might, right, sight, etc.) are to be spelled "-ite" instead. ADVANTAGES: Consistency, ease of learning, fewer letters to type. DISADVANTAGES: Spell checkers, dictionaries,... more... - Stephen Mack
Akiva, no. I'm being a stickler about English usage myself. The word "evolve" is being misused here. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Bruce, ah, sorry. Totally went right over my head. - Akiva
Bruce, I disagree. The "doughnut" to "donut" change is a perfect example of evolution in action. Look at that Chaucer excerpt earlier. All of the changes follow an evolutionary model -- things get simpler over time, due to survival of the fittest. Even Pinker, evoked earlier, describes the evolutionary model of language change similar to what we're discussing here. - Stephen Mack
Matthew, I read your post but I'm too dense to see the point you're making, sorry. - Stephen Mack
I find it ironic that Akiva misused weak when he meant week. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Stephen, sorry, but this discussion is slowly edging its way off the rails. The hypothetical you invoke is just way too unlikely to even be worth addressing, if you ask me. I might as well say, 'what if as the supreme dictator of the universe, I made red into blue'? - Akiva
@Bruce the collectivised mutations of something (language in this case) that eventually give rise to the formation of a distinct and new entity. The changes to our languages are organic in nature and certainly paralelle that of species in the natural world via many different evolutionary pressures (technology, interbreeding, random mutations as a result of generational change....) - alphaxion
There's no advantage to turning red into blue. There are numerous advantages to simplifying and regularizing spelling. My main point is to get you to consider WHY you want spelling to stay the same illogical way it is now, when it has no advantages beyond preserving (a fairly recent, in the scale of things) tradition. - Stephen Mack
Stephen, evolution creates as many irregularities as it eliminates. Why are there two correct spellings of harassment, for example. English will only get simpler by deliberate planning. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
I do think the prescriptivists are fighting a futile war. But spelling reform is just another form of prescriptivism. I say, tolerate diversity and let natural selection hone orthography. If more people favor nite over night or the single word loose instead of the two words loose/lose, then that's the way the language will go. Nothing you or I can do is going to stop it. - Victor Ganata
Stephen, the point is, you can't regulate either spelling nor grammar. They can and will change over time. - alphaxion
(Gah, three excellent comments within seconds of each other, and I want to respond to all three. Want threaded comments.) - Stephen Mack
Matthew, I'm missing the "too much pretty" reference. - Stephen Mack
(Pounces, claws extended, on the either/nor pairing in alphaxion's comment.). :-) - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Let me be clear: The dictator example is a hypothetical, and I'm not actually advocating we force wholesale spelling reform down anyone's throat. Instead, I'm asking people to examine their biases and beliefs. Previously I was a spelling snob. I made spelling flames. Despite believing in the abstract that I was a descriptionist, I was actually behaving as a prescriptivist. However, in... more... - Stephen Mack
For English spelling reform, we may have to look to other languages to lead the way. Filipino, the official language of the Philippines (which is really just a standardized dialect of Tagalog) basically incorporates tons of English words, but has changed the orthography to match the conventions of written Filipino, which is close to being completely phonetic. I understand Japanese kind... more... - Victor Ganata
Matthew, the Chaucer excerpt refutes the backwards-compatibility notion. I find Esperanto ridiculous, because it was mandated, not evolved. Almost no one wants to learn a whole new language just because they find English too complex or irregular. I agree with the rest of your comment. You illustrate the point I'm making perfectly. Before, I was acting as an agent resisting language... more... - Stephen Mack
My point, though, is that there have never been any brakes, and anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. - Victor Ganata
It shows that language changes and doesn't have to be backwards-compatible. - Stephen Mack
Matthew, true. I just think it'll be more dramatic when we start borrowing back from languages that are completely outside the Indo-European family of languages. - Victor Ganata
Victor: English borrowing words from other languages is a fait accompli. - Andy Dustman
Victor: Suppose someone says to you, "Good nite!" and you say back to them, "You miseducated nincompoop, don't say 'nite,' it's spelled 'night.'" You are acting as a "brake" as you say. Right? - Stephen Mack
Matthew, yes, that's what I mean -- apologies for use of metonymy as a grammatical shortcut. (And thank you for the literalist Panda joke.) - Stephen Mack
Matthew, that's one usage crusade you'll have to give up on. Information wants to be anthropomorphized. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Well played, Bruce. - Stephen Mack
On a more serious note, I think Stephen is making a good move by loosening up on spelling as his son starts to read and write. That fits the methodology I've seen work really well in Montessori schools. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Twitter's ability to influence language is probably substantial. - Stephen Mack
Stephen, yeah, I see your point. On the other hand, such a response might actually act as a accelerator, if the person I said it to thought I was someone not worth listening to. - Victor Ganata
Andy, true. I was specifically thinking of English borrowing words back from languages that had originally borrowed from English, which, yeah, we've already been doing. - Victor Ganata
Kids are good at unlearning. Empower them first. Tighten up spelling later. - Bruce Lewis
If I started 'loosening up on spelling', I'd never get a job because I'm a writer and am expected to produce literate and correct copy. - Charley M
Bruce L., you're exactly right, and it's very interesting to me that proper spelling is now hardly emphasized at all in the early grades. - Stephen Mack
Charlotte, I'm not suggesting all literate and correct copy be discarded wholesale. As I mention in the blog post, business communications are one venue where we place a huge emphasis on proper spelling and grammar, and that's not going to change for generations if at all. Really I'm trying to explain why for informal discussions (such as the ones here on FF) I'm interested in personally being less of a stickler. - Stephen Mack
Clearly spelling bees are corruptors of teh youth. Won't someone please think of the children? - Andy Dustman
Andy, did you see Spellbound? Freaky how much work is involved, for obscure words that most people have never heard of. I am all for intellectual competition, but the value of the top level of competition like that really escapes me. It seems to turn the kids into stress cases. - Stephen Mack
Stephen, I have not, but spelling bees are the intellectual equivalent of beauty contests. Memorization != rational thinking - Andy Dustman
Ah, good, then your previous comment was sarcastic. (I approve.) - Stephen Mack
Enjoy your weekend, Matthew! Don't worry, the zombie of this premise will dig its way out of the coffin over time. - Stephen Mack
Yes, there's a greasy red spot where the dead horse used to be. - Andy Dustman
Is there? I missed it. Better keep on kicking to be sure. - Stephen Mack
:) I certainly don't want anyone to accuse me of wanting English to evolve solely because I don't know how to speak it. And FFers are an unusually literate bunch. - Stephen Mack
A few years ago there was a news story that tracked the rate of decrease for irregular verbs. They predicted that in another 100 years only the most important irregular verbs will be around. That is kind of strange to predict where the language will go. - Rich Thomas
Slippy, I just dislike the people who hold on to the set or rules they learned like it is set in stone. - Rich Thomas
I tried to resist, but here's an example of current day comment prose to dissect: http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009... <----- endless linguistics theories will swirl around the reason for the strategic placement of the single comma, the only punctuation whatsoever therein (if you don't count ALL CAPS as punctuation). - Micah
Six-year bump. One of my favorite conversations on FF (a little off now with some of the deleted accounts, such as Matthew DeVries and Slippy), even though I didn't get much agreement for my point of view here. - Stephen Mack
Bret Taylor
FriendFeed Blog: FriendFeed now available in فارسی - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
FriendFeed Blog: FriendFeed now available in فارسی
FriendFeed is now available in Persian! Thanks again to all of our Persian users — it has been extremely exciting for us to see FriendFeed so widely used around the world. You can set your language preference here: http://friendfeed.com/... - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
Any way we could auto-translate (or even have a link with the option to?)? It'd be great to really be able to collaborate with the non-English speaking world... - Chris Reichow
Thank you all . - MohammadReza
wow, another language... I can't read it, but that is cool! :) - Susan Beebe
Now if we could only filter out languages other then our own and have the lang:en search filter. - DarknessFalls
You're welcome! We are excited to better support our Persian users. - Bret Taylor
This feels so good to be able to view the pages in a way are eyes used to see Persian writings. Thank you so much! We really appreciate your effort! Thanks again ! :) - انجل
Yay! - Mitchell Tsai
that just looks so beautiful :D - Iphigenie
محشره / غافلگیر شدم - Shandiz
wow! thanks! - Pasparto
Anybody know of good Farsi to English web translation tools? Google Translate doesn't seem to do it. - Ted Gilchrist
蝌蚪文~~~ - junrxu
Great! thanks thanks :) - Mehrdad
Agora precisamos da versão em Português. - Carlos Brefe
thanks ((((((((: - yasin ghasemi
Thanks ممنون ;) - Exir
merci bcp . - Afra
ممنون - mohammad mahdi kazzazi
Thanks - Arash
;) It's FriendFeed.. Bravo - این فرندفید است... براوو - امیروفسکی
Great Bret! I remember that in the past some persian people wrote here that whould be nice to have FF interface also in persian, probabilly because their language is very different and english isn't so diffused such in Europe. A welcome to persian friends! :) - Roberto from fftogo
Hebrew please. ^^ - David C. Cooper
تشکر جیگر - سیدیونس | vk.com/younos
kiss to you honey - جواد
bretçim herkes google plus'a gidiyor ama ben seni bırakmam ^^ - Aynebilim Aşevi
Aynebilim'e katılıyorum Bret. Bir sürü idiotla paylaşsam da burayı, vazgeçemiyorum işte. - Ben bu yüzden hiç kimseden gidemem gitmemmmm.. la la laaa - pippi haşmet
bretçim sana dm atamıyorum..bana abone olur musun ^^ - Aynebilim Aşevi
interesting! but when will FF users have something like googe's http://www.dataliberation.org/ so we can backup our feeds? - ovigia
تیلور دوستت داریم :خز - Diaz
میلاد الاغ :)))))) - || بهاره ||
کوفت چرا میخندی؟ :)))))))))) - Diaz
روانی :)))))) - || بهاره ||
bu vesileyle mübarek ramazana hoş geldin demek istiyorum..bretçim iftara ne yapayım canım^^ - Aynebilim Aşevi
Have a good day to all of u...... - weerah
your looking good - Chavez Cecilia
lan gundi öyle maaş alıp göt büyüteceğine gel de şu insanların çığlığını duy! bankamatik lolipop.. - iwfx!
:)) ممنونم استاد - ستاره کریمی
Scoble, Alex Scoble
On friendfeed: People talking about stuff and doing stuff. On Google+: People talking about Google+
It's less than a week old for most of us. Give it time. It will settle down. - Jack&Cleo
Alex is just balancing his brother. BY BEING A HATER WITH HIS HATER PANTS - Mike Nayyar
I hope the g+ talk dies down on g+. Right now it just feels like a giant tech blog on how to g+ - Tamara, #TeamMarina
Where do you expect people to talk about Google+? - Rochelle
I thought that the first rule of Google+ was... - Julian
Honestly, I think that's what G+ needs during its Field Test. Once they have a bookmarklet, conversations will turn away from trying to sneak people in. - That's So CAJ!
I remember when Friendfeed used to launch new features, all people would talk about were the new features. happens with everything. - chrisofspades
I'm not hating on Google+, heh...I'm just making an observation. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
apples, oranges, yada yada yada - chrisofspades
I talk about food and music. *shrug* - Derrick
Heh, D, you are so much more than that. :D - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Just wait til the honeymoon phase is over. - imabonehead
I'm talking more about other stuff than I am about G+ over there. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
It just depends on your friends, but yes the biggest buzz seems to be about Google+. Had to put someone out of circles and block since he was just self promoting and touting google+ with a developer on every post. It's about everyone and not just about the "me" so to speak. - James Stratford
Hey now! We were talking about stuff. - Joe from YouFeed
I posted a picture of my bike. So there. - Joe from YouFeed
Hehe, Joe...touche. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
I can't talk about + tech wise as I can barely figure out wth is going on there. - Joe from YouFeed
and now Glen is telling jokes on + - Joe from YouFeed
Further proof? - Liza + = ?
Talking about stuff..doing stuff.... - Liza + = ?
I'm not talking about anything interesting in either place. I win. - Jim #teamFFrank
Nor on turntable, multiple networks talking about stuff...doing stuff...further proof - Liza + = ?
Is Liza really a fake account? I think so. - Joe from YouFeed
No bot can be Liza - Liza + = ?
I dunno......... - Joe from YouFeed
*back from G+* All the talking about Google+ there is starting to die down, at least relatively. Still, it's been only a few days and we're still figuring out what to do. Most of my G+ talk is in the comments on other people's posts. And people are talking about FF there too... - Dennis Jernberg
Err, really think I am a fake account, Joe? I was live in a G+ hangout, so that must count for something. - Liza + = ?
So you say. As I am using the mobile app. for + I cannot confirm nor refute your claim Liza. - Joe from YouFeed
Further proof is needed I think. - Joe from YouFeed
I am further prooooofff! - Liza + = ?
*Raised eyebrows* - Joe from YouFeed
LMAO Joe, she's a real girl, she was commenting on my headboard earlier. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
o' why did you have this conversation at google+? theres so many comments i want to plus in this thread - chaz2b
No, I can see lots of different topics being discussed on Google+ now. - Kol Tregaskes
But remember all we talked about on FF at first was FF - Leo Laporte
As cools as G+ is or could be I still think FF is better for conversations. You see a lot more conversation per screen area on FF. G+ has a lot of white space and space used for comments and meta data. - Todd Hoff
Headboard Jim? What are you two doing in bed together.......? - Joe from YouFeed
We were in a hangout, not bed together. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
*shocked* Leo is here again. :) - Gunneh-MoTo Calls me that
Yep, just noticed that too Gunny. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
I saw someone mention that Google+ is the return of Friendfeed. Which is funny, since it never went anywhere. (I get the sentiment but it's still inaccurate.) - That's So CAJ!
and here I thought you were knocking boots Jim. (Disappointed) - Joe from YouFeed
David Cook
Our baby is going to be a girl!! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Our baby is going to be a girl!!
Congratulations, you guys! - Anika
Congratulations! - Alan (Giraffes)
Congrats Girls are awesome :0 - Gunneh-MoTo Calls me that
YAY for cute little girl outfits!!! - Miriella
Awesome. Best to you and the Mrs. :) - Derrick
The previous due date was the 8th of December. The doctor today told us that he puts her as due on the 27th of November and it's going to be a girl! I'm so excited!!! =D - David Cook
Congratulations!!! - Sarah Lane
Congrats - Robert Burgin
Congratulations, David!! - Mona Nomura
Can i ask, the Dr told you it was a girl from the above scan? In the UK, they arent allowed to tell you the sex anymore unless you ask for the 4D scan which costs! - Alan (Giraffes)
Congrats! - Rachel Lea Fox
The doc was very confident in the scan. He showed us the lack of boy parts and moved on. He said no one has ever come back and told him he was wrong. - David Cook from fftogo
congrads, :) - chaz2b
Congrats!!! I wish you all the luck and pray she is nothing like her great Aunt Karen!! HA! =D - Katt
Congrats! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Congratulations, David! - Micah
Fantastic News. Congrats. - Brent - Yes I am
Wonderful. Take care. - ThinkEzy
Congrats! - Mark Douglass
Congrat - sami from Nambu
Congratulations!! - Kazumoto
hey congrats! - (jeff)isageek
Congrats David :D - Praveen Vasudev
Mazel Tov! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
Yay! - FFing Enigma
Congratulations David!!!!!!! that is great news!! :) - Susan Beebe
Thank you everyone! =D Debbie is already planning the girly clothes and we're going through our name book tomorrow. We both agree that we want something pretty short. Nothing more than 2 syllables. - David Cook
Robert Scoble
RT @aegies: who's funding the tea party movement? these guys: http://www.nytimes.com/2010...
Read the New Yorker article about the Koch's http://www.newyorker.com/reporti... - Leo Laporte
Matthew Wayne Selznick
Scrabble iPad App Uses iPhones As Tile Racks - http://laughingsquid.com/scrabbl...
"This Game of Scrabble Will Set You Back A Grand" or "Only Apple Fanboys Allowed" - Matthew Wayne Selznick
Fish oil can head off first psychotic episodes - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster...
"In the lives of young people at high risk for developing serious mental illness, heading off that first psychotic episode can mean a world of difference. A new study has found that for a year after it was completed,12 weeks of dietary supplementation with Omega-3 fish oil reduced progression to full-blown psychosis in a large group of adolescents and young adults. The study subjects were young people who did not yet meet the criteria for full-blown mental illness, but whose grip on reality had begun to come loose, prompting them to seek psychiatric care. At the same time, Omega-3 long-chain fatty acids--found in a range of ocean-going fish and edible sea life--improved many of the symptoms that identified these young patients as likely schizophrenics and bipolar disorder sufferers. Among the 81 young patients under observation for psychosis in an Austrian hospital, those taking fish oil supplements for two weeks showed fewer signs of disorganized or delusional thinking, more motivation, and better overall functioning than those in a comparison group, who got psychotherapy alone. " - RAPatton
"Psychiatrists are actively debating how--and how aggressively--to treat patients with so-called "pro-dromal" signs of mental illness, or symptoms that are considered warning signs of full-blown illness to come. Studies, among them some funded by the companies that make antipsychotic medications, have found preliminary evidence that prescribing antipsychotic medication for early... more... - RAPatton
"In a measure of relative effectiveness, the present study found that fish oil supplements--which come with a wide range of unrelated health benefits (among them cardiovascular disease prevention) and no more serious side effects than "fish burps," were as effective at preventing psychotic episodes as antipsychotic medications." - RAPatton
This story uses the actual numbers, rather than just %, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1... - Wilka Hudson
So the 5% is really 2, from a group of 40 (half of the 81 people taking part in the study). And the 28% is 11, from the other group of 40. - Wilka Hudson
My midwife was telling me about a study that showed that pregnant women who took fish oil during pregnancy had babies that more easily regulated their sleep/wake cycles after they were born. Pretty cool! - Rochelle
My kids are going to be taking fish oil supplements as soon as they're able. I'm going to be passing on a genetic cesspool so anything to prevent them from developing a full blown mental illness would be good. - Lis
And antipsychotics, even at low doses, are crazy with the weight gain and metabolic changes. I take an extremely low dose of an atypical antipsychotic (for bipolar mania) and I've gained 15 lbs in one month and just want to eat junk. - Lis
been taking fish oil caps for over a decade now. i'm still a total nutjob. :P - Big Joe Silenced
Um...yeah. Fail on this one. BIG fail. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Tutivillus Grift, why? - Rochelle
GEE, THANKS TUT! :P - Big Joe Silenced
admittedly, tho, i haven't had a psychotic ep. - Big Joe Silenced
Oh...heheh. Didn't see the follow-up. 3 months vs. a lifetime? You may be able to delay the inevitable...but it will likely still happen. I didn't have a psychotic break until my late 20's. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Psychosis is a symptom, not a disease in of itself. Whether you can stave anything off depends entirely on the underlying condition. - Victor Ganata
Righto Victor. People will read this, start downing Fish Oil and not looking for the root cause. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Mental Illness is a very tricky thing...we are just scratching the surface. This reminds me of the St. John's Wort articles from a few years back. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I need to take these because I don't eat seafood. I'm wondering if individuals eat seafood on a regular basis, can that alone provide the same inhibitor that the pills do? It's difficult for me to decide whether it's a good thing or a bad thing. - Arlan K.
Tutivillus - This is different from St. John's Wort, though, in that fish oil has no interactions with prescription meds and its health benefits have been documented for quite some time. And, no, it's not going to cure someone with bipolar disorder or schizophrenia, but anything that can help is a good thing. - Lis
Lis, actually Omega-3 fatty acids may still have side effects, although probably not as commonly or as dramatically as St. John's Wort. It affects the same metabolic pathways that aspirin does, so in theory you can end up with abnormal bleeding, especially if you're already on blood thinners or anti-platelet agents. Still, this would probably require extremely high doses of fish oil, and there doesn't seem to be any reports of this actually happening. - Victor Ganata
walnuts are high in Omega 3 as well, and a more sustainable source, they are not an endangered species, and they also don;t come with the dreaded fishy burps,, - daveeza
But walnuts are gross. - Rochelle
I take it all the time - orionstarr from iPhone
the main reasons i take fish oil caps have nothing to do with mental health. - Big Joe Silenced
i should look into how much walnut meat i'd need to ingest for a similar benefit, tho. - Big Joe Silenced
Another reason why the NO poly-unsaturated fat idea sucks (e.g. Eat MUFAs Mono-unsaturated fats diet). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... Omega-3s generally have 2+ double-bonds. The 18 carbon α-linolenic acid has not been shown to have the same cardiovascular benefits as DHA or EPA. Currently there are many products on the market which claim to contain health promoting... more... - Mitchell Tsai
[Me] People are unable to add double-bonds very far into the fatty acids it eats, thus humans can't produce most Omega-3s. [Wikipedia] Although fish is a dietary source of n−3 fatty acids, fish do not synthesize them; they obtain them from the algae or plankton in their diet. Six times richer than most fish oils in n−3, flax (or linseed) (Linum usitatissimum) and its oil are perhaps the most widely available botanical source of n−3. Flaxseed oil consists of approximately 55% ALA (alpha-linolenic acid). - Mitchell Tsai
Clinical studies indicate that the ingested ratio of n−6 to n−3 (especially Linoleic vs Alpha Linolenic) fatty acids is important to maintaining cardiovascular health. However, two studies published in 2005 and 2007 found no such correlations in humans. The n−6 to n−3 ratio of grass-fed beef is about 2:1, making it a more useful source of n−3 than grain-fed beef, which usually has a... more... - Mitchell Tsai
Milk and cheese from grass-fed cows may also be good sources of n−3. One UK study showed that half a pint of milk provides 10% of the recommended daily intake (RDI) of ALA, while a piece of organic cheese the size of a matchbox may provide up to 88%". The microalgae Crypthecodinium cohnii and Schizochytrium are rich sources of DHA (22:6 n−3) and can be produced commercially in... more... - Mitchell Tsai
Some vegetables contain a noteworthy amount of n-3, including strawberries and broccoli. Typical Western diets provide ratios of between 10:1 and 30:1 - i.e., dramatically skewed toward n−6. Healthy ratios of n−6:n−3 range from 1:1 to 4:1. Studies suggest that the evolutionary human diet, rich in game animals, seafood and other sources of n−3, may have provided such a ratio. - Mitchell Tsai
April Buchheit
San Francisco’s Answer to Westboro Baptist Church - http://laughingsquid.com/san-fra...
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"Westboro Baptist Church showed up to protest in front of Twitter’s San Francisco office on Thursday, but found themselves severely outnumbered by a crowd of absurdist pranksters, including guest blogger EDW Lynch above. WBC’s hate-promoting signs were answered by multiple signs of randomness, nonsensical yelling, and even a unicorn. A portable stereo blared Lady GaGa, while press and people passing by ignored the WBC signs and took pictures and videos of the more entertaining signs. I was also there and turned on the video camera while holding my sign." - April Buchheit from Bookmarklet
This is a total WIN! - Mathew™ aka Youngblood
The best way to counter protests (KKK, Neonazis, WBC, etc.) is with absurdity, because it turns the issue into a joke. - Gabe
What Gabe said. - Ken Morley
The "I'm Tired" sign kills me. - Ayşe E.
That's why the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is so awesome. When school boards start talking about teaching creationism in schools, you can bet some Pirate are gonna show up and demand that THEIR creation myths are given equal time. :) - iTad
Hahaha, damn - Mo Kargas
I ❤ my crazy surreal WBC-disarming bay area neighbors. - Wirehead
haha "i like a sign" ! - dominic
ROFL!!!! Love it!!! "God hates flags" and "God hates kittens" And the RickRoll! - rowlikeagirl
excellent! - Jim
That's just beautiful. I don't even know what the hell Westboro was protesting, and that's exactly the way I like it! - Joel Webber
This is absolutely brilliant. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
"Sporks are Evil" :) - Eivind
oh man i love these ppl - Felicia Yue
Kevin Fox
Google’s ‘Don’t Be Evil’ Mantra is ‘Bullshit,’ Adobe Is Lazy: Apple’s Steve Jobs | Wired.com - http://www.wired.com/epicent...
Google’s ‘Don’t Be Evil’ Mantra is ‘Bullshit,’ Adobe Is Lazy: Apple’s Steve Jobs | Wired.com
"On Google: We did not enter the search business, Jobs said. They entered the phone business. Make no mistake they want to kill the iPhone. We won’t let them, he says. Someone else asks something on a different topic, but there’s no getting Jobs off this rant. I want to go back to that other question first and say one more thing, he says. This don’t be evil mantra: “It’s bullshit.” Audience roars." - Kevin Fox from Bookmarklet
Funny how evil is in the eye of the beholder. I don't doubt that Google would like Android to make the iPhone irrelevant, but that's not evil; it's competition. And not even as harsh a competitive tactic as Apple's holding Google's iPhone apps in limbo because Apple is afraid they might succeed. - Kevin Fox
I think Jobs sees all competition as zero-sum, so he seems to think Google's out to destroy the iPhone. But I don't know anyone at Google (including on the Android team) that thinks this way. A healthy, heterogeneous market is good for everyone, Google and Apple included. - Joel Webber from BuddyFeed
Totally agree, Kevin. It's all psychological bullshit to appeal to incite the fanboys. - Amy
Agreed, Joel. Google's certainly trying harder than Apple to broaden the smartphone market beyond the high-end. I think Google would be a lot more satisfied if they covered Nokia's global footprint than if they surpassed Apple in unit shipments. - Kevin Fox
Also, not that it matters but Google bought Android two years before Apple started selling the iPhone. It's not like Google suddenly decide to infringe on Apple's turf. - Kevin Fox
Jobs' rant is bullshit. It is, indeed. - Claudio Cicali
Isn't "don't be evil" about how you treat your customers, not your competitors, anyway? Paul? - Jim Norris
I don't know where people get the idea that competition is evil. I say competition is good :) - Paul Buchheit
Jobs is afraid of a strong competitor. - devran
It saddens me how most of the comments on all the articles covering this story agree with Steve that Google is somehow evil. Le sigh... - Michael Leggett
Google was so lost in the browser for many years. Most of the companies who are not Web oriented were not even interested in what Google was doing. And now current acts such as Android and Chrome OS get their reactions, because all suddenly Google changed roadmaps -- suddenly means last 2-3 years in my scale. - Burcu Dogan
Nokia didn't enter Apple's market and sell iPods or iMacs or MacBooks, I wonder how Nokia feels about Apple's entry into smartphones? ;-p - Ray Cromwell
do we really need to compare companies? http://bit.ly/nokiashistory - mehmet t. akalın
also any developer dealing with apple found. and adobe-flash plugin could get the idea what steve says.. - mehmet t. akalın
Yeah - those are the types of things a cult leader says to his cult to get them to rally against the enemies ;-) - Jesse Stay
I say.. even this cute company called Apple is bullshit too.. They are lazy bastards as well.. - Pico Seno
Well said, Aaron - motivation is good for us all :-) I like new Google AND Apple technology. - Jesse Stay
If I were sitting there at the iPad announcement, I would have been waiting for a runner to come down the aisle to throw a sledgehammer through the screen with Jobs's face on it. - Gabe
@Paul, you're starting to sound a little too much like Gordon Gecko - Fleagle
Are you implying that competition is bad Fleagle? Monopolies tend to be abusive, or at best lazy. Google competing with the iPhone may not be what's best for Apple, but it's better for the rest of the world. I declare it 99.9% good :) - Paul Buchheit
No @Paul, I actually don't care to be honest. I just love the movie "Wall Street." - Fleagle
Oh yeah, cool movie :) - Paul Buchheit
@Paul as a matter of fact, there had been historical records of true business competition had been causing more harm than good (water supply services few centuries back in London, UK), but you probably won't agree for sake of "competition being good by definition" :) (oh, and I am "all pro competition" too, but I do like historical facts) - A. T.
@Paul also Apple vs Google vs very-few-more-key-players vs rest-is-negligible fits perfectly oligopoly case - do you like oligopoly? :) - A. T.
There's competition where each company tries to out-innovate the other and there's competition where they try to undermine the other. In my experience Google represents the former. - Kevin Fox
Jerome, that's crazy. - Kevin Fox
The nice thing about Android is that it is monopoly/oligopoly resistant because it is open source. If Google pushes it too far, or stops innovating, someone else (e.g. Microsoft) can fork it and create their own competitive strain of Android. The same is not true of iPhone obviously. - Paul Buchheit
is that really true Paul? Isn't this Google slamming into MS and Apple trying to take market share with another prop system? - Thomas Power
Yes, I think there are already some non-Google Android devices, though none of the popular ones are. I doubt Microsoft will ever do it for the same reason that they aren't adopting WebKit for IE, but technically they could (and perhaps should). - Paul Buchheit
Android's already being used in several non-cellphone devices like media players from Archos and Barnes & Noble's Nook e-reader. - Kevin Fox
How's it feel to be, according to Valleywag, the face of Google's counter-Apple strategy post-Jobs lashing out? http://gawker.com/5461539... Bloggers are silly. - Mark Trapp
I think it's funny that Ryan Tate didn't mention my staunch advocacy of Apple's stance on Flash. - Kevin Fox
I'm rolling my eyes at that gawker article. (Nice find, Mark.) - Stephen Mack
I want to know when Facebook is going to build their own Android phone. ;-) - Jesse Stay
O sweet so this thread is a developing news story about a news story about a #headexplodes - LANjackal
Or what I really want to know is when Ryan Tate is going to start using FriendFeed ;-) - Jesse Stay
You guys might want to check out Gruber's additional perspective on what Jobs said. http://www.wired.com/epicent... Note, in particular, the updates. It sounds like the original report painted his comments more harshly than they were delivered. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
For the record (and since there are now a lot of people reading this thread who don't know me, my stance and my tone) I totally get why Steve said the things he said, and I don't really begrudge him for it. It's sad that he chose to rally his troops by implying that the other guy's got it in for them, so they'd better fight back hard, but it's nothing compared to calling your competitors Nazis: http://fury.com/2005... - Kevin Fox
I'd like to ask Apple about their thoughts and plans about Maps, and about online advertising, two businesses that Google entered first. - Kevin Fox
Really? I thought he was mad at Microsoft and IBM a *lot* in the 80s. The whole 1984 ad was a poke at IBM. It is funny though that externally he says that nobody's come close to where the iPhone was 3 years ago, but to his own troops he's saying 'Google's out to get us, so watch out.' - Kevin Fox
Not that old-mindsets are particularly constructive, but I think Jobs, in particular his mindset, is a product of the OS wars of the '80s and '90s. Microsoft was out to get Apple with its second-rate products and infinite cash reserves: Apple was the last stand between Microsoft, the death of innovation, and the proliferation of mediocrity. Now that Microsoft has been vanquished, the... more... - Mark Trapp
I think the only thing standing in the way of Google-targeted ad campaigns like Apple's "Redmond: Start your photocopiers" ads is the fact that Google's brand is viewed even more favorably than Apple's. Apple can't publicly attack a company that people love without taking a serious hit. - Kevin Fox
Very true! Check this out: http://www.google.com/search... - Kevin Fox
Apple is afraid. They don't enter the search business because they know they can't win. Google sees a way to put customers/devs first and does see a way to succeed. - Nathan Snyder
Kevin: I think the 1984 ad was a poke at what Apple was to become in 2010. - Gabe
++Gabe - April Buchheit
Respectfully, I think the level of Google fanboi-ism is equal to that of Apple. Google is an innovative company. So is Apple. Neither is devoid of warts. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
I love both Apple and Google, but I hate it when they fight or act spoiled. - Kevin Fox
Yes, and despite (or because of) SJ being kind of a nut, Apple is still awesome and I'll be buying a tablet :) - Paul Buchheit
It's fun to watch extremely controlling people throw tantrums when they don't get their way. Waaaaaah! - Garmon Estes
Apparently there can only be one maker of phones. Does that mean that phones with keyboards are evil? - Sam Levine
Jérôme, both :) - Paul Buchheit
Schmidt should have excused himself from Apple's board conversations on the iPhone, when he was well aware that Google is (secretly) working on Android & Nexus One. This definitely falls within the definition of evil. I'm actually surprised it's legal. - Tal Broda
I don't think Android was secret -- Google bought the company a long time ago. - Paul Buchheit
Kevin, isn't this 1-2 years too late? - Tal Broda
None of you feel that Eric Schmidt sitting on Apple's board while developing competing technology is evil? - Richard Luther
It was disclosed to Apple and they chose to continue having him on the board (or do you think he just make up a random excuse to leave the room every time the iPhone was discussed?) Why would that be evil Richard? - Paul Buchheit
I don't get it. Why do Apple fanboys hate competition? I personally love it that the iPad is perceived as competition to the Kindle. Competition is good for the consumer! - Piaw Na
@Piaw Okay, fine. Let Jobs sit on the Google board while developing an Apple search engine. - Richard Luther
Richard, if he disclosed that fact, and Google still wanted him on the board, then there would be nothing wrong with doing that. - Paul Buchheit
And I wouldn't mind at all if Apple tried its hand at a search engine. In fact, they did do spotlight. :-) - Piaw Na
Here's the deal, folks. It's not about hating competition, it's about hating working together. Apple and Google have historically had strong ties. The two companies have worked closely on many products. Both companies have benefitted, and IMO consumers have benefitted. Do you think Google helped or harmed that relationship when they decided to compete directly with Apple? - Richard Luther
They harmed the relationship but helped the world. That seems like a fair deal to me. We should be nervous when big companies get too close. - Paul Buchheit
I was always uncomfortable with that relationship. - Piaw Na
Richard, Google decided to enter the mobile OS space before Apple had a phone. - Daniel Dulitz
This is a movie we've seen before: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Richard Luther
Paul, I agree that the competition this situation created is great for us, the consumers, but if you look at when Eric recused himself, and consider when the first iPhone shipped, you will see a problem. - Tal Broda
Sure, I see a problem, but the problem is too MUCH implicit collusion between Google and Apple, not too little. I do think that it is probably true that the close relationship between Google and Apple led them to compete less than they otherwise would have, and that was a bit "evil". But that makes it GOOD that that is changing. - David desJardins
Michael Hocter
I'm celebrating 5 months as a non-smoker today. Yay me!
way to go Michael - VALZONE#SCREWED
Cool and 5 years for me last week. - M F
Congrats! - Tracy Benham
M F, congrats! Quite an accomplishment. - Michael Hocter
Well done. - SAM
Thanks, I only commented as an encouragement that it can be done and after the first couple of months it can only get better :) what made it for me was to realise that cigarettes did not relieve my tension or stress but they only relieved the stress of not having a cigarette. - M F
Nice one, Michael! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Well Done! - Mahdi
I gave up for 3 years and started again :/ - Halil
Yay Michael!!!! :) - Myrna
Halil & CL1PS & anyone else who wants to quit: I highly recommend Allen Carr's book "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking". It's only about $10 and it really helped me when I was getting ready to quit. - Michael Hocter
Yay You, indeed! - comix aka martha
Jeremy Zawodny
My Extravagant Zsh Prompt - http://stevelosh.com/blog...
well, now that's impressive - Jeremy Zawodny
I have my bash prompt show my git branch if in a git repository, but that's about it. His is pretty impressive, indeed. - Tudor Bosman
I've now switch permantently to ZSH. I had some bindkey issues that prevented me initially, but I sort it. Having a common history is great. - Paul Grav from IM
Jeremy Zawodny
InstaMapper - Free Real-Time GPS Tracking - http://www.instamapper.com/
simple web app for tracking your position if you have a GPS enabled phone that's not from a shitty carrier - Jeremy Zawodny
Works like a dream on Android. Got it installed on my Nexus One. - Leo Laporte
Jim Louderback
On the plus side, I am LOVING my new @SONOS S5 Portable. 5 second setup and it sounds amazing If you have #Sonos, you must get one!
Agreed. And the iPad Remote Control is awesome! - Leo Laporte
Technology News
WikiLeaks suspends all operations http://digg.com/tech_ne...
Kevin Fox
Gruber nails it: Who Can Do Something About Those Blue Boxes? - http://daringfireball.net/2010...
Yeah: users don't blame first parties for their sites not working; they blame the websites for not working with their browser of choice. I've had users demand our stuff works in obscure browsers or browsers we wouldn't normally support: the "blame the person who made your browser or switch to something else" respond never gets very far; if we want those users, we support what they want to use. - Mark Trapp
Feeling old right now - read "Blue Boxes" and assumed there was a new wave of people getting free phone calls. - Ryan Kaisoglus
Or a slew of timelords. - Kevin Fox
Isn't blue boxes (in the sense of free phone calls) the genesis of Steve Jobs and Wozniack's career? - Shakeel Mahate
You're absolutely right, Shakeel - this is coming full circle! - Ryan Kaisoglus
Apple doesn't want Flash because they can't monetize Flash-based interactive experiences, but they can monetize iPhone apps. So a site that wants to offer a richer experience on the iPhone has to develop an app and sell it on the App Store. And I think Apple has the clout to pull this off. - Tudor Bosman from email
Tudor: I've heard that argument a lot and while I think it's a nice by-product, I don't think it's the primary reason. If people start making quality games using HTML5 only, I don't think Apple would take any action against that. - Kevin Fox
Tudor the one counter argument to that is Apple does have a LOT of free apps on the app store which they don't monetize at all. There is probably a monetary element but I imagine its more about controlling the user experience than pure greed. Fact is Flash is a leading vector for exploits and crashes none of which Jobs wants on his platform. Will also make his platforms sluggish and kill the battery. - Ed Millard
It is true its pretty hard to monetize web sites. Its take a lot of resources to maintain a 24/7 server, you are constantly fighting hackers and its hard to break even on ads unless you are Google. I agree its a pretty bad trend that Apple is creating a shadow web with a combination of apps and iPhone centric mobile versions of web sites. But then too a lot of web sites and Flash content just don't work in phones due to memory and CPU limits - Ed Millard
Well I wasted years trying to push Flash players on to devices like those but Adobe frustrated my business at every turn. From 2002 until very recently all they gave me was FlashLite and it completely sucked as a browser plugin. If Adobe had been focused on making Flash 9/10 device friendly for the last 4 years they wouldn't be in the bad position they are in today. - Ed Millard
Ben Borges
Bigcontact feed player : A great tool to inject your external podcast feed in blogs, social networks etc.. - http://www.bigcontact.com
Thanks for the tip. Just put it on my blog - http://leoville.com/blog - Leo Laporte
u welcome :) if anyone know another feedplayer, i'm interested, ning.com feedplayer is another one, wich is good also :) - Ben Borges
Podhawk is a nice self hosted solution to run your own podcast - Ben Borges
Very cool! I use PodPress player on our blog. But may use this on FB to showcase all our shows. - Mary-Lynn
yep this service is really great :) the only hic for me is i' have been going trough some weird problem with the player on myspace and my website, so i decided to stick with the JWplayer, this way i host the player, the mp3 episodes, and no more downtime ever ! - Ben Borges from IM
Yes the XSPF one, i dunno i never really enjoyed this one...i suppose with a nice skin it could be great.. - Ben Borges from email
floored to see my Twitter name in an NYT sidebar; thx @carr2n! http://www.nytimes.com/2010...
You'll have to tell us how many followers you pick up from this... - Mike Koss
You are worthy of the favorable comments. Keep up the great work, girl! - Kelly J
It looks like you historically gain about 60 followers/day - but had a 500 follower day yesterday! http://twittercounter.com/ginatra... - Mike Koss
Craig Silverman
UPDATE: NYT Fires Columnist After NYTPicker Uncovers Ethics Breach. Public Editor Clark Hoyt Calls Situation "An Embarrassment" To NYT. - http://www.nytpick.com/2010...
Paul Buchheit
EtherPad Open Source Release - http://etherpad.com/ep...
Awesome. - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
Yay, +1 for Scala - Ray Cromwell
Yeah, I noticed all the Scala, too. Nice. - Joel Webber
To download source you have to get mercurial (similar to git) http://hgbook.red-bean.com/read... then you can run: hg clone https://etherpad.googlecode.com/hg... etherpad - Jeremy Heslop
Chris Heath
With the Roku box, Leo Laporte finds living-room wedge | Your Tech Weblog - http://blogs.twincities.com/yourtec...
With the Roku box, Leo Laporte finds living-room wedge | Your Tech Weblog
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""It's a thrill for me to see the TWiT logo right up there next to Amazon, Netflix and Major League Baseball" via the Roku, Laporte told me in a phone interview. "I want to be seen as a (media) peer." Laporte is ramping up how much programming he offers per week, from about 30 to 40 hours to 100 or 200 hours. He has just hired the popular Dr. Kiki Sanford to be a host on some shows, since he can no longer do it all. Eventually, he says, he aims to be come the "CNN for geeks," with a laser focus on his nerdier audience, and no ambitions to duplicate the super-expensive production values of a top TV network." - Chris Heath from Bookmarklet
very cool. - Marc Ostrick
yes, this IPTV stuff is going to the TV in 2010 - yahoo widget enabled tv's will have the content via the mediafly widget, roku, popcorn hour, all the mobile apps (bb, android, pre, etc) -- hopefully mediafly will be on the ps3 and xbox soon -- revision 3 is also moving in this direction (not sure if they're dealing thru mediafly or not, but i know they're moving onto tv's as well - Chris Heath
Richard MacManus
OMG, shock announcement from Mark Zuckerberg about FarmVille! (ref last image on this post: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...)
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Steven Perez
"If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." - Florynce Kennedy - Wikiquote http://silas216.tumblr.com/post...
No freaking kidding... The most vocal group opposing women's right to choose is the gender that doesn't have to endure pregnancy, labor and delivery or even stick around for the next 18 years to financially and mentally support the child while putting aside their own life goals. It seems very hypocritical to me. - Lindsay
Love it. No idea why Florynce Kennedy is, but I'm about to look it up. - amygeek
MAGFest 7 - The Smash Brothers - Microsoft Windows - canyon.mid - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
MAGFest 7 - The Smash Brothers - Microsoft Windows - canyon.mid
Patrick Thornton
@acedtect - Is CNET River be positioned as an alternative to the CNET homepage? Are homepages obsolete?
Patrick Thornton
CNET is thinking beyond the homepage with new CNET River that combines everything they do & tweet in one place. http://news.cnet.com/river/
Daniel Bachhuber
StatusNet (Of Identi.ca Fame) Raises $875,000 To Become The WordPress Of Microblogging - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Project to watch. It hasn't even hit 1.0 yet, and the software is already very compelling. - Daniel Bachhuber
Fantastic news! - Leo Laporte
sadiq kassamali
Microsoft is shocked to find racy content in “Family Guy” special. Pulls Out - http://www.dvorak.org/blog...
Anybody who knows the Family Guy's kind of content shouldn't be surprised... I, for one, was surprised to hear about the deal in the first place... what would be interesting is if they get Apple for the new sponsor. - Chris Heath
lol, stupid Microsoft. - Mark
That's good. But that method does not always work. Microsoft should've worn a condom. - Fleagle
What is the world coming to? Racy content? In Family Guy??? I'm SHOCKED!!!! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Sasha Kovaliov
Jenna Bilotta
Said in a Reader brainstorm about a new feature: "If we do that Louis Gray's head will explode." True story.
ok. I might have said it. - Jenna Bilotta
Ruh-roh. :) I trust you guys. Maybe this is a good thing. - Louis Gray
I'll leave it to you to ponder wether it was a good head explosion or a bad one. :) Either way, still fun. - Jenna Bilotta
*EXPLODES* - Louis Gray
ha! you dug this thread up! very nice. :) - Jenna Bilotta
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