My FriendFeed posts and comments are no longer being published to Twitter, contrary to my Twitter publishing preferences, as of this afternoon central time.
Cannot remove 'Service' in my settings page. I removed Twitter service 2 days ago but it still pushes tweets to my feed and comments to Twitter. Anyone found a way to update 'Services' settings without deleting an account?
(I already posted a bug report via Contact page)
- NaHi
I tried removing my twitter without luck as well.
- Pavan
Isn't it a critical problem? Still no sign to repair...
- NaHi
13 days later, change of services setting seems to be applied.
- NaHi
bump. I still have at least one RSS feed that's been pulled and is still running.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I have the same problem. Any news about that?
- Gianluigi Negro
I can not remove my twitter service, even if is not in "my services" anymore it is still working :(
- Gianluigi Negro
I'm sorry Mr NaHi. last time i never comunication wilt you. but really still need your NaHi's feed. thank for all Mr
- SAHROI
I have the same problem, I removed Twitter and two RSS feeds more than two weeks ago. They are gone from the profile page, but the RSS feeds and Twitter feed continue to publish. After a couple of weeks they stopped published for a couple of days but then they came back on their own. Any ideas for fixes or at least workarounds?
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- Mark H
from Bookmarklet
There was a lot of chatter about the future of FriendFeed this weekend. The short answer is that the team is working on a couple of longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world. Transformation is not the end. Consider this the chrysalis stage -- if all goes well, a beautiful butterfly will emerge :)
Noticed the "leaked" Facebook UI screenshots and the groups blog post today, and both seem FriendFeed inspired: nice to see Facebook trying to bring the stuff we like about FriendFeed to a larger audience.
- Mark Trapp
Devil is in the details: "couple of longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" == Facebook projects with FriendFeed-like elements == no work on FriendFeed itself.
- EricaJoy
Paul, FriendFeed rocks as Gmail does ;)
- Orlando Pozo
Thanks for the update, the more you communicate, the less we have to speculate.
- Peter Hoffmann
The fact that these improvements are coming to Facebook and not friendfeed will not sway those who like friendfeed but dislike Facebook.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Thank you Paul for bringing "FriendFeed goodness to the larger world" -- THAT sounds awesome!!
- Susan Beebe
But we knew this was the deal the moment the full details of the purchase of friendfeed by Facebook became public.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, I don't give a crap about Facebook. I want to know about FriendFeed.
- Rochelle
sadly, no one with any power seems to care about FF anymore.
- Big Papa Silence
And there's your answer, Rochelle. friendwho? friendwhat now? Oh, you mean Facebook! (No I mean friendfeed) friendwho? (rinse, lather, repeat)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
there are some ui differences (and i tend to prefer friendfeed in those cases) but i have friended quite a few FF people in FB and the experience is remarkably similar in many ways.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I like the "chrysalis stage" analogy - sounds cool.... goes an looks for FF goodness butterfly!
- Susan Beebe
Good to know that FriendFeed still has some fight left; hope that translates into a viable and sustainable platform/utility for the masses (though I quite enjoy the close-knit, uber-geek community that it's become).
- Christian
I don't like the chrysalis analogy. The butterfly emerges from the chrysalis and buggers off leaving the shell. Of course, it might then also get eaten by a bird. Tweet, tweet.
- Mark H
Note that he didn't say that FriendFeed.com was going away, only that they're diverted to bringing it to a much larger audience
- Jesse Stay
The problem is Scoble (Robert) and MG both just sent half of FriendFeed away so most of those that would benefit from this announcement won't even see it.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I didn't get that from Paul's comment. I read that some of the friendfeed ideas will be going into FB. I like that idea, but I still prefer FF to FB because of the different conversations here that I don't have with friends and family.
- travispuk
from iPhone
Yeah, Paul's statement won't help friendfeed. This will just either give people more reason to go to Facebook or find another service entirely.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
What Alex and Rochelle said. This sounds like a "we're bringing FF to Facebook" announcement, and I don't give a damn about Facebook. I want to know what's happening HERE. And Cristo, both, but more the interface. I care about the friends I've made here, and I'm connected with many of them now on Facebook as well, but I prefer to interact with them here, because I like it better.
- Jandy
Travis, he didn't say that - you read that, but he didn't say that. I'm willing to bet FriendFeed.com will not go away.
- Jesse Stay
As much as I agree about Scoble and MG driving people away, they have also effectively flush out some comment from the FF team.
- travispuk
from iPhone
Travis, there are better ways of getting the FF team to comment
- Jesse Stay
I think it's the opposite, the butterfly is becoming this crawling caterpillar :)
- Jorge Escobar
Oh I don't think FF will go away, and damn will hope it doesn't either!
- travispuk
from iPhone
What I do see is more Facebook integrated into the FriendFeed environment - I think that's a good thing
- Jesse Stay
The critical difference between Facebook and FriendFeed is the social model. With Facebook as it is today, you need to be mutual friends to see each others content. There is a "fan page" model but it is oriented toward "publishing/celebrity" rather than information sharing. FriendFeed has an asymmetric model like Twitter, where you can easily discover someone's content without any "friend" gesture whatsoever, and you can follow without friending. This makes the converation more discoverable, and useful..
- Adina Levin
If the integration is bringing public/asymmetric to Facebook, then it will be very useful indeed. If the integration is to add FriendFeed-style service integration into the symmetric/private Facebook model, it will be much less useful - it's more of the same - I'll be able to more easily share updates from youtube or last.fm or delicious to my friend network, but be unable to discover new people and infomation.
- Adina Levin
@Jesse - I can't see any sign that they are working on FriendFeed at all. All the indications are that the FF team is now working on Facebook, and only Facebook. That's great for Facebook, and I'm sure they will do wonderful work there. But don't delude yourself that FriendFeed is going to get anything more than critical fixes, and maybe the occasional thing done in someone's spare time.
- Nick Lothian
Butterflies look totally different than caterpillars and they also fly away
- Melanie Reed
+100 Adina. The things I like best about FriendFeed (easy content/people discovery, FoaF, asymmetrical following and being followed) are completely opposite to Facebook's core model. That's why as much as people keep talking about Facebook adding FF-like features, I don't see the REAL FF core features making it over, because the mindset is different.
- Jandy
I don't see this announcement as anything new, or as reassuring. We knew from the time of the acquisition that there would be would be some movement of FF capabilities into FB. The real question is whether this means absorption of FF into FB or attracting the FB user base into FF. The comment about "bring[ing] FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" still leaves that question open.
- John (bird whisperer)
+1 everything Alex Scoble has said. Friendwhat? What's a feed? Who uses RSS anymore? We've got PubSubWTFOMGBBQ now!
- Mr. Gunn
Nick, Paul just said they're working on other projects right now. That still doesn't mean FriendFeed is going away. I'm not deluding myself at all. I'm telling everyone else they're deluding themselves by assuming it's going away. All the FriendFeed team is still using FriendFeed, and Paul just tried to give us comfort not to worry. For some reason we all don't want to believe him. It's actually kind of amusing.
- Jesse Stay
I wonder what the powers that be mean by "FriendFeedy goodness"? Is it understood what WE like about it vs. FB?
- Amy℠
Paul - Wishing you all the best as you tend your new butterfly garden :) I'll be here to enjoy them!
- Susan Beebe
This is not the news that Friendfeed fans were looking for.
- Vezquex
The issue isn't belief that they are going to do something. The question is what they are going to do, and whether that will continue the core value of FriendFeed, which is not just information aggregation but discoverability.
- Adina Levin
I know more about the "Last Days" and heaven than I know about what's going to happen to FriendFeed as we have come to know it than was given in your rather cryptic answer, Paul. :) And while that may not be a fair comparison (God actually gave details and signs), there is something definitely not forthcoming about your response. A person usually withholds details that affect another...
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- Melanie Reed
Hopefully this helps to quiet all of the "friendfeed is dying" talk. Because this thread proves ff is alive and well.
- Garin Kilpatrick
@Jesse - I read it differently to you. To me, Paul is saying "We are taking what we were working towards on FriendFeed, and trying to bring that goodness to a bigger audience". No one is claiming they are going to shut down FF.
- Nick Lothian
@Jesse - Want to make a bet on the number of new features added to FF before the end of the year?
- Nick Lothian
You read my mind. Having seen a few acquisitions, I am wondering if FF staff was told to put the site in bugfix mode.
- EricaJoy
from IM
Cristo, to deliver some straightforward talk is not about giving away company details. If you have a product that is original and stands on its own, you don't need to refer to it as a "butterfly". Many companies even promote something new and upcoming especially to their loyal user base. It gives a signal. A proper one. It tells your users and future users enough so that they can make an informed decision about what they want to do instead of keeping them on tenderhooks
- Melanie Reed
"the chrysalis stage in most butterflies is one in which there is little movement" (via wikipedia) So if you follow that metaphor then eventually FriendFeed will go through a metamorphosis -- that means it's not dead... really how hard can it be to get what he's saying?
- Chris Heath
Its pretty hard :) The burning question is if they are putting FF goodness in to the walled gardens that are Facebook or are they bringing FF openness to FB too. I think the people here want the open forums that are FF not the closed ones that are FB. If FB is going hybrid with both walled gardens and open forums that would be OK too. People on FF want open forums... like Twitter and FF... without the crude interface that is Twitter and without the uncertainty that is FF now.
- Ed Millard
Facebook is gonna have to rip off much of the privacy to maximize their product in the real-time web world. I am going to assume FF goodness is going to be applied to FB :) *crosses fingers*
- Susan Beebe
Just a thought... why does "longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" JUST mean facebook.com? What I get from this is that they are working on a range of things, maybe bringing the FriendFeed sauce to a range of sites, powered by the Facebook back end. Who knows what that means. A FriendFeed service powered by FacebookConnect? Also to......
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- Johnny
FB needs to leave the privacy for the walled garden and the inner circle. Their current user base likes that. They just need a second feed that is an open forum and you can talk there without it bleeding in to your inner circle feed.
- Ed Millard
Yes, but blocking doesn't work so well since you can just use Chrome's Incognito mode to get around it.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Translation: if you haven't switche to Facebook yet, you better do it now so you can get a good vanity URL.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
I don't know what all the fuss is about. But could we have the long answer too, please?
- Laura Norvig
Although I'm interested, FB != FF. I don't see how the two mix in a way that makes me feel otherwise. Mixing audiences is not a good thing for me (with a few exceptions) and I know others share the same thought.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Paul, will FF be here in 1 year, 5 years?
- Robert Higgins
Cristo I am funking nobody, I would like Paul to quantify his post. Simple. Will FF be here in 1 year? Will FF be here in 5 years?
- Robert Higgins
IMO friendfeed shoud attract more general audience... Facebook and twitter are having more general users. Most of the FF users are tech bloggers or those who needs aggregation services... I dont know it's just my feeling or not . but this is my impression on FF. but it's great service.. the features are too good... but we will roam were we meet our friends... thats most of the people are into twitter and FB.
- Sarath
Ohhhh a perrrttty butterfly, I'm moist with anticipation.
- sofarsoSean
Cristo: i almost made the same observation an hour or two ago when i first read through this posting and its comments. I was skimming and kept seeing alex, alex, alex... and thinking to myself... where's Robert!?!
- Chris Heath
@Sarath - I have a lot more in common with the people I've met here on FriendFeed than FB or Twitter. Twitter is too hard to search, and FB (and Twitter to a good extent) is driven by the people you know in RL (and unfortunately I don't have nearly as much in common in RL with my family, co-workers and acquaintences as I do with people scattered all over the world who I have met on FF)....
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- Lindsay
I think that in his cryptic statement he means, and a lot of people here agree with me, that more Facebook's going to get more FriendFeedy. Which doesn't mean that FF still isn't dead or doomed. After all, he works for Facebook now. FriendFeed=open forum, Facebook=walled garden, totally opposite master metaphors; but I don't think Zuckerberg gets it, and FF belongs to Zuckerberg now. So this is really about FB; FF's still in limbo. Still, some FF people friended me at FB, and I put them in a special list.
- Dennis Jernberg
@FF-team keep on rocking :). BTW I also think it's really cool you guys open-sourced tornado.
- alfred westerveld
+1 what alfred said, and good to hear words like "longer-term" & "beautiful" coming straight from The Walrus - keep that vision strong. Hope all goes well for FF team doing some good re-inventing the Octopus Garden of FB - seems you've got your work cut out for you there! It would be so nice if any way to keep a "simple & pure" form of FriendFeed alive (maintained and developed - more open source?) for us to enjoy, but no worries .... you've simultaneously raised the bar and paved the way for the rest!
- Dan Freeman
Good luck with the development Paul! Hopefully Zuck has some positive insight.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Paul: If someone offered me a bag of money to do what you guys did, I would have done exactly the same (probably a lot faster too). However, it would be nice if you spent an hour answering some of the questions here. It might also give people like me a little more faith, in what used to be your primary project; Friendfeed. You made the best platform on the planet - why not use it to let us know what the heck's going on?
- Jim Connolly
I'm assuming that Facebook wants to keep their roadmap quiet. I respect that but leaving you community in the dark for a brand that the applications stand for community building is rather ironic.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
SUPER!! I don't Blame ya 1 Darn bit fer Dumpin' FacePOOP Paul!! ;PPP Wait FacePOOP is the Maggot Stage!! ;))
- Billy Warhol
If I can still have all my friends that I have here on friendfeed and share things with them the exact same way, I don't care what "www" address I have to type in to get it. I just hope i don't have to give up any of FF's awesome features! Thanks for the update Paul!
- David Cook
The problem is I don't know whether to wrote an app on your API or not because i'm not sure whether it will all be dropped in the "transformation". Imagine speding late nights and weekends coding something up only for it to be dropped suddenly. Need a decent long term picture. Looking at Cliqset.
- Steven Livingstone-Pérez
Good point Steven - and one of the reasons many of us are spending so little time developing our networks here.
- Jim Connolly
This is a truly disappointing/concerning post and I think it would have been much better to hold comment until something more tangible could be discussed. Thanks for adding to the confusion/drama Paul.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
I do care about what happens next, but this is the best news of the day nonetheless ! thanks for giving us updates at last ! and I do hope FF will awaken again ! such a great tool, but letdown since the announcement of the buyback by FB
- laetSgo
will I see this post in my "best of week" email from FF?
- Kirill Bolgarov
If Facebook is going to get fixed, please remember that it needs fixing politically, not just technically. It needs to give people the option to open their data to Google - for instance. A walled garden where the walls are fixed in place sucks.
- Tim Tyler
@Paul, or perhaps an Alien will erupt forth from its stomach? (kidding, kidding!)
- j1m
I think it's a tad ludicrous to compare millions of users to two products and services as wildly different as CNN and Twitter and declare "old media" dead. And how exactly is CNN "old" media these days? They're partly responsible for bringing Twitter to the mainstream; they were one of the pioneers using it to interact with their audience in real time. They're complementary, at least in some ways. Neither will destroy the other.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
Cristo - haha funny dude! too bad LOL :D
- Susan Beebe
Zee - yea, I was pretty stoked by that chart, WOW
- Susan Beebe
CNN is old media to me - established news outlet publishing news vs. news published by tweet model :P
- Susan Beebe
I love charts like these....... I wonder what happened around November last year..... hmmm
- Johnny
I also wonder what happened around the middle of January.... hmmmmm
- Johnny
Johnny - great questions! (November last year = Obama :)
- Susan Beebe
January 20th (despite being my birthday) was the inauguration...
- Johnny
Johnny - ah, good call on the Jan spike!
- Susan Beebe
Until Twitter starts funding a world-wide team of journalists, some of whom risk life and limb to report from some of the most dangerous parts of the world, let's not gleefully cheer the demise of "old" media.
- Carter ♥ HTML5
I am definitely not someone who "gleefully cheer the demise of 'old' media." I am nonetheless aware and impacted by the shift in web traffic, as evidenced here by the graph
- Susan Beebe
I shouldn't have implied that you're gleeful, but many are. It's become somewhat of a game to point these things out. But where would the non-creators of content (Google, Twitter, Facebook) be with nothing to crawl, nothing to RT, and nothing to share? It just worries me, because you're right, "old" media is suffering. The NYT could go broke. Can Twitter supplant them if they go?
- Carter ♥ HTML5
Carter - thanks for the reply. NYT times going broke would be a tragedy and NO twitter could not supplant them. Twitter is a micro-blogging service, not a mature company like NYT that delivers high quality journalism / news. Heck, twitter can barely keep the lights on (i.e. twitter has weak infrastructure, hence the "fail whale" issues).
- Susan Beebe
Agreed. But we're going to look back in 2012 at all these crashing graphs (http://trends.google.com/website...) and wonder how we could have avoided this mess. Because all the solutions suck (charging for content, mega-mergers for scale, selling-out editorial independence).
- Carter ♥ HTML5
look what happens when you compare the BBC News site instead of CNN - http://trends.google.com/website... - CNN is just not that popular outside of the US
- James
James, it's not the absolute numbers, it's the *trend*. Plot CNN and BBC and it's the same graph, just shifted up a bit.
- Carter ♥ HTML5
Ian - wow, that is stunning (facebook really steals the show doesn't it?!)
- Susan Beebe
James - interesting, the BBC vs twitter graph has a similar trend as the CNN vs twitter graph ...hmmm
- Susan Beebe
Just amazing.Useful informations.....
- Brook White
this makes Rupert Murdoch's recent rant at a conference in China even funnier: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-phi... He (and the other members of the Old Media guard like CNN, etc.) really thinks he can take the Web back to a for-pay basis. He doesn't get that 98% of the content his minions are producing is so fungible that the...
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- Alex Schleber
What I find interesting, and disturbing is that not only are Twitters stats going up, but CNNs are going down. Given the self selecting nature of Twitter, that probably means people are exposing themselves to a much narrower range of opinion and information.
- Eoghann Irving
Please don't dance on the grave of print journalism. Yes, newpapers are dinosaurs. And yes, to their detriment, they resisted change in delivery models for too long -- mostly due to the fact that they were making so much money 15 years ago. BUT, without them, there will be a void in investigative journalism that cannot be filled. Politicians still read the big papers to see what's going on in their own government and to see who's investigating whom.
- rowlikeagirl
@Row, I seriously don't want to, but Old Media's wounds are entirely self-inflicted. There will always be investigative journalism, it's just that it needs to be paid for by newer/smarter monetization models. And the pay-wall ain't it.. Murdoch is entirely out of his gourd on this one, and that's not a political statement in this case.
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- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
After reading the article I'm not as freaked out by this. Looks like the IOC realized their mistake in demanding an all out takedown and are now looking to have them moved from a Creative Commons license to All Rights Reserved.
- ChiliMac
hahah cute! I can hear the Superman music now LOL
- Susan Beebe
SuperFriendfeed Guy! (Currently shedding his mild-mannered not-so-secret identity, Dan Hsiao.) Our beloved superhero maintains the same level of transparency as the entity he represents.
- April Buchheit
from iPhone
(To the tune of Sesame Street's 'Captain Vegetable') Out of his not-so secret workstation somewhere in Facebook comes your newest super hero! --- It is I, SuperFriendfeed Guy/ Post your comments in my homefeed/ Sharing cool posts for all my friends is good for me/ And they're good for you, so post some too/ If you can't see, just sub to me/ See videos and pictures that you'll like/ Three cheers for me, SuperFriendfeed Guy/ Like! Like! Like!
- April Buchheit
"China formally kicked off its mass celebrations of 60 years of communist rule with a 60-gun salute that rung out across Beijing's historic Tiananmen Square earlier today. Hundreds of thousands of participants marched past Tiananmen Square in costume or uniform, with floats and dancers mingling with soldiers and military hardware. Collected here are photographs of the once-in-a-decade National Day parade in Beijing, and of others commemorating the anniversary elsewhere."
- Iván Abrego
from Bookmarklet
invite please i want to try google wave
- Robert Higgins
Can I get in on the group waves, too, please?
- Andrew Terry
Kol, hook me up buddy. I should be in your contacts.
- Ben Hanten
Guys, I'd wait a few weeks, Google Wave devs have said they'll have official group support in a matter of weeks. So let's wait for that before getting hooked into anything unofficial. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
[... whistling whilst I wait for Wave...]
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Chris, it appears lots of nominated users got their invites today.
- Kol Tregaskes