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I'll be posting info here.
- Robert Scoble
See, this is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about: http://friendfeed.com/otto42... :)
- Otto
Al işte robert scoble da kopardı kayışı :) (çağdaş uğraşmıyorum sen tercüme ediver :P)
- kaloglu[twitter]
please post to the iSlate Friendfeed Group http://friendfeed.com/islate-...
- Hans Kainz
twitter is dragging big time now
- Ryan
Yeah, Twitter is slow slow slow.
- Robert Scoble
Robert..What benchmark do you use for best live coverage?
- Jim Posner
hey scoble, long time no talk :). what do you all think abt steve announcing retirement today?
- Robbie Trencheny
Cool! Any opinions on what's the best live stream to watch for coverage?
- .LAG liked that
LAG: right here. I will post whenever someone has good live stuff.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert
- Keith Teare
Also: Oracle+Sun.
- Bill Jackson
Right now Leo Laporte has best live stream
- Robert Scoble
Shame we can't get recent comments at top
- Keith Teare
@LAG http://live.gizmodo.com, http://live.twit.com, http://www.ustream.tv/leolapo...
- Robbie Trencheny
Hi Keith, yeah, FriendFeed has a lot of UI things that bug me too.
- Robert Scoble
or here yeah
- Robbie Trencheny
@LAG i think http://live.twit.tv/ but you can also check it here http://hans.li/28
- Hans Kainz
Do you think gdgt will have the best inside coverage?
- Jim Posner
@Robert - i made a list of twitterers covering the event live, then threw it in my blog: http://www.livedigitally.com/2010...
- Jeremy Toeman
Stephen Fry is there apparently. Hah
- Jalada
and direct link to the list: http://twitter.com/jtoeman...
- Jeremy Toeman
Robbie: I'm posting the best Tweets to http://twitter.com/scoblei... Jeremy, that's a cool small list. My list of tech journalists is more complete.
- Robert Scoble
Keith, if your in the feed, click on timestamp, then click timestamp again. The comments will pin to the bottom.
- Micah
@Robert - but my list is just people covering it. yours has me in it (sweet!), and i won't be covering it...
- Jeremy Toeman
Jeremy: Thanks, added that to what I'm watching
- Jalada
Anyone listening to the live event on techcrunch? #AppleLive http://bit.ly/4pmTaR
- BlausenGroup
Jeremy: hopefully you'll add more cause I've seen a few tech journalists who are there who aren't on your list.
- Robert Scoble
Cloud integration getting lot's of coverage. I hope it happens..Will really ignite cloud adoption.
- Jim Posner
I'd rather have a tablet a day to keep me healthy
- Swaroop
Apple "flavored" tablet that is.
- Swaroop
I'll be watching. I have Leo on my tv but you know what's all weird abut this coverage? EVERYONE is excited about it! Even non-apple peeps. I think we're all hoping for something that will change our lives tangibly.
- Sheryl
@Robert - planning to, it's incredibly hard sifting through twitter search to find who is *actually* there versus who is just RTing others
- Jeremy Toeman
This is Raju from iSites Team. How are you guys doing?
- Raju Sagiraju
I'm in Sydney, Australia right now. The TWIT stream doesn't work and the audio stream doesn't appear to work at all.
- Gary
I'm in Canada just up the road and it works fine here, sorry to hear your struggling with the feed.
- Owen Greaves
I would pay to watch a live stream of the apple event!
- Raju Sagiraju
History has it that the Apple -Eve saw changed.... ! Apple is going to change communications and... !
- kailas desai
thanks Scobleizer... I'll stay on this thread then!
- .LAG liked that
i've got Scoble's tech-news-people list running on http://twitterfall.com (disc: I'm the lead developer there ;) )
- Jalada
@HansKainz... thanks for the link, opening up a new window for that... thank goodness I have a 30-inch monitor :)
- .LAG liked that
I'm monitoring #AppleLive on Twitter, Robert Scoble on FriendFeed and Twit.tv
- Owen Greaves
Bunch of iPhone blog editors talking the announcements here: http://friendfeed.com/2010-01...
- 148Apps
@Jalada - can you add mine too by any chance? http://twitter.com/jtoeman...
- Jeremy Toeman
Jeremy: Oh yeah, sorry, I am running that too :D
- Jalada
Has anyone seen our Blausen Human Atlas on the itablet yet? Interested in feedback
- BlausenGroup
@Jalada how do i find it?
- Jeremy Toeman
GUys, Leo Laporte has over 20000 viewers on his site!
- Mark
Jeremy - on Twitterfall you can add lists to view in realtime by just typing the name in the lists text box on the left :)
- Jalada
e.g. @jtoeman/appletabletlive
- Jalada
these are the latest from an hour ago...http://i.gizmodo.com/5458217...
- Ryan
got it - cool!
- Jeremy Toeman
How long before they let everyone in ?
- fmclean
from iPhone
apple store still up
- Ryan
Ryan: It's the big surprise - no new product today ;)
- Jalada
Happy apple day everyone :)
- Hitesh Parashar
thanks @rene
- Keith Teare
Hitesh or maybe they're announcing v2 of the Apple HiFi
- Mike Doeff
surely that's iHiFi?
- Roger Pettett
from twhirl
Mike - yeah that explains the excitement :)
- Hitesh Parashar
I'm broadcasting live from http://ustream.tv/scobleizer now, let me know if you can hear it OK.
- Robert Scoble
yup can hear it fine
- Jalada
Apple may really need to make this tablet a success since less than extraordinary iPhone shipments in this last quarter may point to rival phones blocking further iPhone steep incline.
- Tim Jones
Ooooh only a few minutes till Apple tablet news kicks off. Can't wait to see what Job's reveals
- Susan Beebe
The Apple announcement brought FF down for a while:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Google Wave anybody ?
- Kashif Khan
it's up and down
- James Prudente
would love to see the carriers' net utilization stats during this thing...
- Eric
Please post a Wave URL if you've got one.
- Steve and 4 other people
Using http://friendfeed.com/iphone is a bit more reliable, but not realtime.
- Steve and 4 other people
And here we are. Thanks!
- Jon Winters
live.twit.tv not responding.
- Micah
Micah: ustream is struggling.
- Robert Scoble
Listening to Leo LaPorte & following Scoble here & Gizmodo
- Rosalinda Mojarro
Can't get twit.am to load via iphone here
- Ryan
Nice live, auto-updating coverage with pics at GDGT: http://live.gdgt.com/2010... *Found this link in Robert's FF!
- Kurt Starnes
So much for real time streaming and commenting. Now we know where the network breaks down in an "emergency"
- Francine Hardaway
well i have a public wave set up here https://wave.google.com/wave...
- Kashif Khan
I can't believe Steve Jobs hasn't taken over the live-streaming part of the presentation. My memories are going to be of Leo's voice getting lost in the digital haze.
- Ian McGee
Scoble, cant hear you at ustream.
- Jayasimhan Masilamani
Pretty good audio at live.twit.tv
- Mike Doeff
i dont think friendfeed is used to this much activity anymore. site is failing for me non-stop. but i will say my simple list of 22 people is giving me a very *readable* way to follow the news...
- Jeremy Toeman
I wonder how much of it has to do with the fact that there's no one dedicated to minding the store anymore.
- Akiva
Apple is the largest mobile device manufacturer in the WORLD.
- Lakshman Prasad
friendfeed's working fine here
- Tim Jones
The site crashing is troublesome. Sign of the current state of FF.
- Mark Krynsky
all the live news sites are busted hah
- Allen Stern
http://live.gdgt.com is fine
- Jalada
Lakshman- I thought Nokia is the largest mobile device manufacturer in the WORLD, mobile being phones here. As for laptops, it would be one of the PC makers.
- Tim Jones
Doh - live.twit.tv lost the audio
- Mike Doeff
I'm watching live blog here http://www.engadget.com/2010... it's better than any live tv or any other shit i have been trying so far...
- Junal Rahman
http://live.twit.tv & http://live.gdgt.com/2010... are the best online resources I've found. The 2 combined is great.
- Mark Krynsky
Both Twit & GDGT working for me.
- Mark Krynsky
live.twit.tv is down - can't get there.
- Debi Jones
ipad!!!!
- Jayasimhan Masilamani
the crunchgear livestream is pretty bad...
- Allen Stern
Oh look it's a giant iPhone
- Jalada
damn gdgt is slick
- Allen Stern
iPad!
- Parth Awasthi
http://live.twit.tv/
- Rosalinda Mojarro
A tablet? Didn't see that one coming...
- Jemm
ha! Twitter crashed!
- .LAG liked that
I REALLY wanted them to not announce one :P hah
- Jalada
It's more beautiful than my girlfriend!
- Aycan Çevik
Even the calendar looks great
- Mike Doeff
aycan - it is my girlfriend
- Allen Stern
it's Fujitsu's iPad!
- Tim Jones
FriendFeed is back.
- Simon Cahuk
Hmm, I'm guessing the iPad will support Flash or else...total FAIL!
- Mark Krynsky
I'm sticking with the JooJoo :)
- Mike Doeff
FriendFeed crashed. GDGT is doing best job.
- Robert Scoble
...so it's about 17-inches diagonal?
- .LAG liked that
why is he describing these things like they're new - we've seen them on the iPhone
- Andrew Terry
waiting for Flash
- Tim Jones
broadcasting on CNBC right now.
- Thomas Hawk
No flash.
- Jeff P. Henderson
No Flash on device.
- Robert Scoble
CNBC just cut feed of jobs, talking about it now.
- Thomas Hawk
Besides it being a larger, slightly tweaked iPhone; why should I buy this? I really don't like how it looks exactly like a blown up iPhone.
- Joshua
AAPL stock down $5 per share.
- Thomas Hawk
Uh oh...@mmastrac just told me Engadget showed a missing plugin flash icon in a screenshot.
- Mark Krynsky
ipad.apple.com. Nothing.
- Aycan Çevik
CNBC: Steve Jobs looks much better, far more robust than the last time we saw him.
- Thomas Hawk
when u guys say flash do you mean Adobe Flash or Flash drive?
- Allen Stern
So far nothing that is different to a normal tablet
- Mark
The software is key
- Mark
CNBC: Steve Jobs is the modern day snake oil salesman.
- Thomas Hawk
So far a little underwhelming imo
- Kashif Khan
$aapl always goes down on the announcement after a run up in the weeks before.
- Keith Teare
Yup, software is key, but so far haven't seen much revolutionary.
- Robert Scoble
No Flash = TOTAL FAIL! It will be a long time for HTML 5 to take over.
- Mark Krynsky
Adobe
- Jalada
No flash? My #1 goal for one of these would be watching TV on Megavideo.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
is this on the cnbc.com Thom?
- Mark
Thomas: any live stream on the web?
- Robert Scoble
The whole internet in the palm of your hand, unless you want to visit a web site with flash.
- Jon Winters
Doesn't look like it has a video camera
- Keith Teare
not sure, watching CNBC live on TV. Can't find a live stream anywhere.
- Thomas Hawk
did he confirm no flash?
- Mark
Waiting for the punchline. How much $$$ ?
- Mike Doeff
Mark: If Apple keeps pushing away from Flash, than HTML5 will take over quicker than we know.
- Joshua
Folks please don't get carried away. so far its just a tablet pc, there have been MANY tablet pcs.
- Mark
It's just CNBC talking about it though. Paul Kredrodsky talking about it with CNBC live from the event.
- Thomas Hawk
Live audio here: http://live.twit.tv/
- Kurt Starnes
they are debating what it will price at.
- Thomas Hawk
Daring Fireball has a great explanation as to why Apple and Adobe are at odds over Flash, good read, if you're interested in why Flash is a problem for Apple: http://ff.im/-ePkYc
- .LAG liked that
fox business is showing some tape-delayed video live
- Allen Stern
Just a tablet PC like iPhone was just a mobile phone (Note: take a look at almost every smart phone since iPhone launch)
- Kurt Starnes
The price cant be high for a blank slate.
- Mark
Yes, Gruber has a very good explanation about Flash and Apple.
- Simon Cahuk
And whats with the huge bezel?
- Mark
CNBC: I think the name iPad is a mistake. Sue Herera: it reminds me of feminine products.
- Thomas Hawk
LAG...users won't be sympathetic to why Apple and Adobe are at odds...missing Flash is a dealbreaker.
- Mark Krynsky
I have one pill for all clinical apple fanboys (be it even whole usa population) - button HIDE
- A. T.
listening to laporte's ustream. i just yawned, but it could just be that i slept late last night
- Tim Jones
"Apple Drops an iDud" is a funny headline
- Mark
We will talk about this at http://ustream.tv/scobleizer
- Robert Scoble
Joshua...HTML 5 won't happen fast enough for the iPad...
- Mark Krynsky
But I think the price for iPad will be high :).
- Simon Cahuk
9.7" display
- David Damore
Did I hear that right?
- David Damore
0.5-inches thin, weighs just 1.5 pounds.
- .LAG liked that
Adobe has invited me to a Flash event in February that's going to be a pretty big deal, but no iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
good question by mossberg - does this ipad take away sales from the ipod tuch ?
- Allen Stern
There can't be any Flash. It's based on the iPhone OS, which currently doesn't have that capability either. What a surprise. Not really.
- LANjackal
100,000 peopel are watching TWIT Live
- Mark
CNBC: 10 hours of battery life.
- Thomas Hawk
10 hours of battery life? With wifi on?
- Robert Scoble
iPad runs a custom Apple chip -- the A4. That has to be a first - ever?
- Kurt Starnes
108,000 + viewers on TWiT Ustream channel.
- Debi Jones
a 1ghz chip :(
- Mark
Mark Krynsky... I agree with you of the deal-breaking aspect of no Flash
- .LAG liked that
Wow: http://www.apple.com/downloa...
- James
this will boost sales of the Touch
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Mark - a custom chip though
- Jalada
can a 1ghz chip play HD video?
- Mark
I know my 1.4ghz atom struggles with 720p
- Mark
Pixel doubling? Are you serious? Runs apps at essentially 320x480? "Black box" 1:1 in the center of the screen? This is a joke.
- Steve and 4 other people
It is A4, an Audi, so yes, it can play HD video :).
- Simon Cahuk
Price? Shipping date?
- Francine Hardaway
lol! Pixel doubling! We used to do that making DOS games back in the day
- Mark
so, wait... no 3g?
- Andrew Terry
Pathetic.
- Mark
Allen, I think the answer to your question about iPad robbing Touch sales will be a resounding no as soon as we hear the price point.
- Mark Krynsky
battery life 10 hours? realistic? o_O
- Ronald
340x960 resolution for the tablet then ?
- Mark
How many iPhone apps can be on the screen and running at the same time?
- David Damore
CNBC speculating on the price at $1,000.
- Thomas Hawk
Figures that number would be unlimited ...
- LANjackal
from IM
i think most of the existing iPhone apps have to be rewrite for iPad to get the full screen advantage
- Junal Rahman
Multitouch (multiplayer multitouch)
- Robert Scoble
who won the kindle
- Joseph
from twhirl
good point mark
- Allen Stern
My guess: $799
- Mike Doeff
Honestly? So far, I'm pretty disappointed.
- Joshua
conflicted. with a 10 hr battery i can see this replacing a kindle. but I'm pretty happy reading on my nexus. Do I want to go back to carrying a 10" screen?
- Ben Reierson
Rewriting apps for screen resolutions? Won't that result in "fragmentation" of the App Store market? I mean, that's what tech journos have been beating Android over the head with for the past 6 months or so
- LANjackal
from IM
Robert, isn't that called Twister?
- Akiva
"How many iPhone apps can be on the screen and running at the same time?" One. No apps running in the background.
- James
fox business guy bashing the ipad for no keyboard and light gig memory
- Allen Stern
i'd bet the people who can shell out for a kindle will run for an ipad
- Allen Stern
@LANjackal it will be all packed in a fat executable, both low and hi res
- ↂGiorgiँ Zarrelliↂ
Can the iPad dial your iPhone from it's adress book?
- Jon Winters
I honestly was hoping for a tweaked Touch Ready OS X. Not what feels like a port of the iPhone.
- Joshua
Eh...so far I'm not impressed and don't see anything revolutionary. Sure this device is pretty but I'm already thinking if it's priced any higher than $500 I'm declaring it only a device for early adopters and Fanboys.
- Mark Krynsky
It would be cool if you could run apps side by side. Twitter app and a news app etc. Take advantage of the big screen and not need to resize native iPhone apps.
- David Damore
Have they mentioned it's internet connection? Wi-Fi or something else?
- Jon Winters
apple stock up 2,170% since 2003 - holy crap.
- Allen Stern
Leo's feed is finally showing video from event.
- Robert Scoble
david - scoble will have 3 ipads taped together for mobile usage to mirror his home setup :-P
- Allen Stern
This thing is going after the Xbox.
- Robert Scoble
It's about what I expected. Price is really the key here...and if you need a Mobile Contract.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
This points up the convenience of a smart phone, at 1/4 the price.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Live video from inside; EA demo at http://www.ustream.tv/leolapo...
- Ian McGee
Apple stock is dropping FAST! Not good. I want one...no matter what anyone else says. I think it would be cool.
- Sheryl
iPad Fans join us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages...
- Hans Kainz
im guessing sxsw will be renamed - iPadsw
- Allen Stern
Robert - no, it's going after DS Lite and PSP
- Andrew Terry
Apple is 30 minutes into their iPad presentation. The stock is down 2.5%, so Apple has lost $4 BILLION in market cap over the last 30 min. From @hotzington
- Mark
"Going after the Xbox" Yeah when either device has half the capabilities of the other, let me know. Don't be ridiculous
- LANjackal
from IM
Maybe we should buy the stock, wait for it to go back up, sell, then buy an iPad?
- Robert Scoble
Wait LOOK!!! There's more than just Apple!! http://friendfeed.com/got-mem...
- sofarsoShawn
no way xbox - maybe a nintendo ds - the thing is - if this thing does iphone voice - then maybe people buy this instead of an iphone?
- Allen Stern
Here we go; wave goodbye to the Kindle...
- Andrew Terry
There is actually an iPad listed on Apple's website, but it is just a little different - check it out here http://bit.ly/d6f66J
- Arun
iPad is going to be a big deal -- much more than the specs alone reveal.
- Kurt Starnes
somewhere Jeff Bezos sits, perspiring.
- Parth Awasthi
Not impressed at all. A big "meh"
- Spencer
So reading is NOT the killer feature
- Mark
I was happy reading on my Touch a year ago. The Kindle app is really sweet.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
to me the kindle is a "rich" device meaning the avg american isn't buying it - same with the ipad so it works perfectly - those with kindle money will run to the ipad
- Allen Stern
wow so apple is now going to fight amazon - i hope amazon kicks apples ass :)
- Allen Stern
Yea right Mark...cold day in hell when Apple would do that.
- Mark Krynsky
@Allen Stern +3 Re: "scoble will have 3 ipads taped together"
- David Damore
the price for the new 10" ipod touch ?
- tony bland
iPad is a new platform -- I bet it's where Apple wants to take personal computing
- Kurt Starnes
you're going to give a presentation with your audience huddled around a 9" handheld device..? Really?
- Andrew Terry
will ipad apps work on the ipod touch/ iphone ?
- tony bland
Andrew: and that is going after the Xbox too. Just watch how Microsoft reacts to this. Microsoft wanted to do an Xbox portable.
- Robert Scoble
mememe for the kindle
- Joseph
from twhirl
My sons already have been using Xbox less since iPhones came out. iPads will steal even more time from Xbox.
- Robert Scoble
There are no buttons on it! you can't do serious gaming without buttons.
- Mark
Andrew - do you give presentations around a laptop screen?
- Kurt Starnes
@Kurt: into a brave new world in which every app will need their approval? Sounds like a nightmare for "personal computing" IMO. I hope you're wrong
- LANjackal
from IM
wait, you can rotate and resize photos with touch?! Amazing!
- Ben Reierson
LAN - I mean the way people use computers. The mouse/hard-keyboard UI is old fashioned, IMO
- Kurt Starnes
+++Krynsky "No Flash = TOTAL FAIL! It will be a long time for HTML 5 to take over. " -- The size of the tablet makes it a natural for web browsing - except for lack of flash support. It was disappointing in the iPhone but quite ridiculous in the iPad. I don't "love" flash but it's a fact of life on the web.
- Richard Walker
all my 12 yr old son plays these days is Modern Warfare 2
- Tim Jones
I'm with you on your commentary Allen...btw you going to SXSW? Good time having lunch with you last year.
- Mark Krynsky
Robert, that's just incidental, in the same way you'll probably watch less TV if you buy an ATV and decide to go riding around in it often. Doesn't mean the ATV and TV manufacturers are in competition. Sheesh
- LANjackal
from IM
Kurt - no; not around a laptop, but I do swing it around so the screen is facing my audience..
- Andrew Terry
A computer with a 1GHZ cpu. It's a bit 2001.
- Mark
LAN - And, I am hopeful that iPad is not locked down the way iPhone is!
- Kurt Starnes
I bet the HP Slate has flash *gunshots*
- LANjackal
from IM
iWork on the iPad....YAWN...what else?
- Mark Krynsky
Mark - I think we'll have to use one to make a reasonable judgment on the chip
- Kurt Starnes
Just saw the pics of the iPad over on Engadget. Sweet Jebus, that thing is ugly. It's got like 2 inches of border around the thing. From the pics, I'm betting it's locked down too, with apps from a new App Store. Epic Fail.
- Otto
Jobs hates flash, there was no way he would put it on this device
- Kim Landwehr
where is the camera?
- Markus Kobler
Thinking... The iPad attaches to your MacBook as a second display with seamless integration Photographers can edit photos directly with their fingers.
- Jon Winters
Kurt: It uses the iPhone OS, which means it'll probably also use the App Store. Which means it'll be just as locked down.
- LANjackal
from IM
Jon - that would be a) very cool and b) make total sense
- Andrew Terry
Biggest deal so far - unless it is still to come - no camera so no ichat
- Keith Teare
Otto: same app store.
- Robert Scoble
I have very little problem with the iPhone being locked down, so I doubt it will be an issue for me with the iPad.
- Jeff P. Henderson
@Jon Winters wifi 802.11n; still no price tho
- brainno722 (Peter)
Hah. $9.99 for iWork.
- Robert Scoble
That would make sense, actually
- LANjackal
from IM
No clear what screen res is. implied 2 x iphone 3gs, so 960x640???
- Keith Teare
Each app.
- Robert Scoble
sub-HD in other words, and not widescreen,
- Mark
.11n's an honest plus
- LANjackal
from IM
Ah - Kurt - he just said you can connect to a projector via a cable... problem solved
- Andrew Terry
Will be 3G models
- Kurt Starnes
subscription data. UGH!
- TranceMist
Unlimited Data plan for $29
- Kurt Starnes
Another monthly fee for you apple guys to get net
- Mark
no contract unlimited data!
- Vezquex
And can cancel anytime.
- Robert Scoble
All iPads unlocked GSM
- Kurt Starnes
This makes me want a MiFi.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
lan olm flood yapmayın flood banlarım sizi, bak hala la yörü
- Emre Savaş
250MB a month is lolable.
- Mark
Whats 250MB divided by 30 days ?
- Mark
Unless it's being sold through carriers (and hence subsidized) this thing's gonna be expensive. Def not an impulse by for most people
- LANjackal
from IM
I still do not understand why they can't make these things (both iPhone and this new thing) "sync" via WiFi. Why must I connect the thing to my computer? They're on the same network FFS! Making me use a USB cable is just frickin' stupid.
- Otto
Great deal on dataplan - I'll carry one around, may replace my laptop eventually
- Kurt Starnes
Data plans seem somewhat reasonable when you consider WiFi in most cases. Still in bed with AT&T though.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
less than 999
- Vezquex
Now I'm hearing $9.99 for apps ... guess how much I paid for the apps on my DROID? $0. The only apps I pay for now are Evernote and Office on my PC. Period.
- LANjackal
from IM
??!
- Vezquex
fuck year 500
- Vezquex
Well 499 is a different story.
- Todd Hoff
$499!!!!!!
- Kurt Starnes
Otto: probably because it might make DRM harder to implement. It's a lot easier to verify hardware that's physically connected to the machine, than to verify a client that you can't touch
- LANjackal
from IM
Sold!
- Kurt Starnes
$499!!! Suddenly it's a winner!
- Andrew Terry
$15 for 250MB is still overpriced. I get 1 GB for 10 EUR (pre-paid plan).
- Nils Sandin
$829 for 3G 64GB
- Kurt Starnes
2-3 months
- Vezquex
so at&t takes a hit on the monthly but gobbles up $130 extra per pad
- Allen Stern
too many models
- Bill Koslosky, MD
499 for 16 GB version...
- Wang Yip
$829 for the good one; NO CAMERA = underwhelming
- ryangraves
keyboard charging dock. clever girl
- Vezquex
You guys might wanna ask Sony how well a $499 price works for a non-PC mass market product.
- LANjackal
from IM
@LANjackal: The problem there is that that system backfires. I specifically do not buy media on the iTunes store because of the "must sync to the computer" problem. I don't connect my gear to my computer, ever. I haven't hooked my phone up since the first day I got the thing (and jailbroke it). I very likely never will hook it up again, because there's no point. Also, if they need verification, then a simple 2-key cryptographic system could be made to work easily enough.
- Otto
Are there iPhone apps for DSLR tethering?
- Jon Winters
Biggie Sized iPhone without the Phone ??????
- Owen Greaves
Optional solar-powered case? Wait for it... ;-)
- Ian McGee
Owen, with 3G model I am guessing one could connect with a Bluetooth earpiece
- Kurt Starnes
what happened to the remarkable UI?
- Bill Koslosky, MD
whats the big deal about sync to the computer, its not that hard, people make it sound like its worst then pulling teeth.
- Kim Landwehr
Owen, who said no phone? It has a microphone and 3G.
- Vezquex
I agree with you, Otto. I was only stating a reason for the lack of capability
- LANjackal
from IM
No camera is a blunder, IMO. Has no camera been confirmed?
- Kurt Starnes
Lanjackal: Zing!
- Joshua
The Cure?
- Jon Winters
$829!!?? EL OH EL that's more than my rent right now.
- LANjackal
from IM
No cloud and no wifi syncing sucks too. I hate plugging things in when there's perfectly good air all around me.
- Todd Hoff
Kurt: would you really use it as a camera? The form factor's totally wrong
- LANjackal
from IM
Still 1 app at a time?
- ryangraves
Wrong for that purpose, I meant
- LANjackal
from IM
+1 Otto - I use my iPhone daily and I haven't synced it in months. It's jailbroken. I also can't stand the regular iTunes updates I keep getting - they update the program more often than I start it.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'm pretty sure people are looking for a webcam LAN, not a DSLR
- Daniel J. Pritchett
No multi-tasking? Are they serious? Holy hell, that's inane.
- Otto
my $300 netbook w/ Kindle for PC works for me
- Tim Jones
LAN -- for tele-Skype, yes.
- Kurt Starnes
Please, just improve the iPhone and iTouch. The first time you drop the iPad will be the last. The mobile sites for the NYTimes are good enough for me. I don't need the Flash ads. If you're in public, you can't set it down, you can't put it in your pocket.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Yep, iPad = Giant iPhone (exactly as I wanted / predicted) - didn't get camera tho = iFail
- Susan Beebe
K I'm with you guys on the webcam idea.
- LANjackal
from IM
Bill -- I don't have a very good record with any dropped computer, except iPhone and other cell phones, surviving drops.
- Kurt Starnes
aww, TWiT lost the feed.
- Vezquex
iPad = iMeh
- Bill Koslosky, MD
was that Leo Laporte filming?
- Vezquex
All things considered, I'm pretty underwhelmed... it's a big iPod, but not as portable.
- Andrew Terry
How long until I can run Android on it? :-P
- TranceMist
Can't wait to get a hold of one. Take care folks.
- Kurt Starnes
Should have shocked everyone with a name nobody expected: The iNewton
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
No multitasking? Wow. How bad of a product release is this? A $500 - $830 device that's completely locked down and can't multitask or webcam? And as some people on Twitter are pointing out: iPad? Really? Were there any women in the original focus group?
- LANjackal
from IM
Everyone laughed at the Palm Folio.
- Jon Winters
AT&T sucks ass.
- Thomas Hawk
from iPhone
AT&T suckage depends on where you are. Here in Memphis, for example. AT&T is quite good. I get ridiculous speeds off the 3G and never have a dropped call. When I travel to Atlanta, the experience there is quite different.
- Otto
iPad is not the netbook killer
- Tim Jones
Kurt: I can only see this as a household device. If you prop this thing up with its case at a Starbucks table, looks like trouble. No video-conferencing, but prob in the next version.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
I bet iPad is the netbook killer, Tim Jones.
- Vezquex
"I don't see this leaving the house too often," says Leo. But he thinks it's the "ultimate airplane device."
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Scoble's Nexus One ustream streaming quality is better than his iPad streaming quality right now
- Tim Jones
any announcments about iPhone's moving to other carriers?
- Amani
from IM
Expect an iPad killer from Google within 6 months.
- Jim Posner
Household users, Airplane users, student users, personal entertainment users, ebook reades, basic laptop users....that's a pretty huge market.
- Leif Hansen
New Apple Home Page http://www.apple.com/
- Rosalinda Mojarro
+1 Otto on the Memphis 3G. I get silky smooth service and I always have to remind myself about the problems in larger markets.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
What does this do for the Kindle, Nook and all the other e-ink readers? I'd say they're in trouble. Except for reading a textbook, I think a device just 2x larger than the iTouch would be more convenient.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
@Bill I'd agree mostly on the ebook readers. But there is something *really* nice on the eyes with e-ink that I'm hesitant to give up (and go back to zombie brain lit screens).
- Leif Hansen
Leo Laporte just said that it's an incredible device when you actually get your hands on it... beautiful, light, incrediblly responsive screen... I'll wait until I get to play with one before judging on what it lacks, and whether or not that's detrimental
- .LAG liked that
Apple stock went from being down to now being up $3.12. As soon as the price came out the stock turned and went up.
- Thomas Hawk
iPad does not support T-Mobile's 1700 GHz 3G frequencies
- TranceMist
Ummmm ok ... I can think of many incredible, beautiful devices that I have no use for. This is another one of them. The iPhone, yes. The iPad? No. Not at that price point, at least
- LANjackal
from IM
Thomas ...isn't a lot of the stock movement in the last couple of hours really just speculators betting on what was going to officially get announced today?
- .LAG liked that
Is there a GPS?
- Todd Hoff
No shit it doesn't. T-Mobile's gone all in with Android
- LANjackal
from IM
I didn't hear when Apple would allow people to order the iPad. Did anyone else?
- Jeff P. Henderson
the specs dont list GPS capabilities. Am I wrong ?
- Kashif Khan
Jeff: I think someone said 1 - 3 months earlier in the thread
- LANjackal
from IM
@.LAG liked that, I think the stock move has to do with the price. The market liked the $499 price more than the speculated higher $1,000 price. It was down until the price was announced then it turned up.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas... makes sense. $499 is a price that will probably move lots of units
- .LAG liked that
No it won't. Ask Sony what happened with their $500 price point for the PS3. $500 is not an impulse buy. For that you have to be at $299 or below
- LANjackal
from IM
Giant iPod. Hopefully an OS refresh will unlock some goodness. Otherwise? This is a shiny paperweight.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
+1
- LANjackal
from IM
They've not updated the UK store yet with info about the ipad. A little let down about the lack of bluetooth connection to a dekstop/laptop mac for use as an input device. Also, not bothered about the 3G version as I'd rather buy a mifi and use that saving myself cash and letting more devices access the net on the go ;)
- alphaxion
Oh. And KILLER wood paneling!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Next? Steve Jobs brings back the <BLINK> tag.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
It would be cool if I could get a mifi-type device with a $15/30 per month no-contract billing option. That would make all of these devices tempting.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
here in the UK 3 offer a mifi with a 1 month rolling contract, 5Gb per month limit with £40 up front for the mifi or a pay as you go mifi for £70 up front
- alphaxion
That sounds sweet alpha, I think here it's like $60/mo. with a long-term contract. Let me double-check that. Edit: Looks like the minimum mifi contract is $40/mo. for 250MB and it doesn't say how long the contract lasts. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
http://www.three.co.uk/Mobile_... once I get myself a job I'll be buying one.
- alphaxion
yikes! http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Thomas Hawk
orange
- Mike Chelen
This was always Steve's/Apple's vision, 20 years on will work??? of course it will Apple have got the consumer mesmerized.
- VirtualPeople
Our post-keynote discussion with Google's Don Dodge and str.ate.gy's Elizabeth Brooks is here: http://www.ustream.tv/recorde...
- Robert Scoble
BWAHAHAHAH! The iPad, with built in virus protection! LOL... http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Otto
Good points over on Gizmodo as to why it is not a complete win.
- Martha
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- dolly
hahaha yasu budur ahahahahaha:D
- dolly
valla bu apple manyakları dünyayı sarmış bizimkilere de elma lazım haklısın tabiyki dee
- dolly
How to use iPad-->http://ff.im/eX6qo
- Yunus YAMANER (CITRIL)
is there no way of buying the low end model and adding in an sdxc card to bump it up to 64GB? Having no camera is ridiculous and as usual you are locked into the apple ecosystem. Once again you either love the way they do things or you don't. It will be a popular device, but I'm always amazed at how many people are quite happy with Apple's walled garden. This is what killed them in the...
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- Phil Ashman
There is an SD card reader peripheral included.
- Vezquex
:)
- ★ Soner Gönül
hmm... it also doesn't look like it supports multiple user profiles and it's *still* tethered to a single machine with itunes.
- alphaxion
Orange. The tablet still doesn't work well as the video livestream interface between my DVCam and whatever RMTP server I need to transmit to. Seriously whatever, as far as I'm concerned.
- Rich Reader
I *gulp* miss Scoble.
- Kevin Fox
Did they specify the OS it is running?
iPhone OS 3.2
- 148Apps
Hmmm. Was that stated during the event?
- Patrick Jordan
I still wanna know how hot that thing will get!
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Probably not that hot -- he said it was a single chip device. Lots of area to disperse that heat.
- 148Apps
Hey, it's magical. It won't even use electricity, but fairy dust.
- Rob LeFebvre
fairy dust that Steve manufactures, of course.
- Rob LeFebvre
Big question now -- pricing. We now know there are multiple models from 16GB - 64GB. Probably at least 3 models. Will they be subsidized by cell phone carriers - I do not see a cell carrier logo at the top of the screen in the screen shots.
iWork coming to the iPad!
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Pages, Keynote, and Numbers
- 148Apps
I wonder how iWork for the iPad will be priced? Included with the device?
- 148Apps
$9.99 for each of the 3 iWork apps
- 148Apps
Numbers screen: http://www.blogcdn.com/www...
- 148Apps
iBooks includes a book store -- iBooks store. Buy / download books on your iPad.
Wow -- that bookshelf look familiar. Is this based on Classics?
- 148Apps
Looks a helluva lot like it
- Patrick Jordan
Certainly does look like 'Classics' for iPhone. Agreed.
- Lyndon Perry
Looks like Delicious Library to me.
- Rob LeFebvre
what about PDF support, Steve? epub is nice, and what kindle/nook uses. WHAT ABOUT PDF!?!?!? CBR? Come ON!
- Rob LeFebvre
Prices are are rumored a little more than Kindle -- $14.99 not $9.99
- 148Apps
Just got confirmation -- iBooks not based on Classics app -- just a blatant rip off of their design in many ways.
- 148Apps
PDF was mentioned earlier -- not sure if it will work in iBooks or not though
- 148Apps
EA showing Need for Speed
Need for Speed Shift, BTW. Looks very good. Question is, what will the controls be like. Will they be touch or tilt? The iPad has accelerometer built in.
- 148Apps
I'd still rather see Real Racing
- 148Apps
Screen: http://c0581892.cdn.cloudfiles...
- 148Apps
Now showing MLB for the iPad -- looks like a killer app for the baseball fan. Stats and live video. Box score, etc. A good use for the extra screen space.
Screen: http://c0581892.cdn.cloudfiles...
- 148Apps
iPad SDK update out today
Developers can take advantage of the increased screen resolution
- 148Apps
Tablet runs all iPhone apps either in a box or pixel doubled
Lyndon Perry liked this
The lack of flash could be a problem... especially for page turning style online magazines.
doesn't html5 cover that?
- Rob LeFebvre
They will conform to the Apple way and ditch Flash.
- Jeff P. Henderson
And for web browsing in general
- AppAddict.net
I guess... but there are already a lot out there... and in the design industry many use flash. I know ... I create them!!
- TouchGen
I'm a designer and I hate flash with a passion that burns. The faster it's put out to pasture, the better I'll like it.
- Brad Brooks
We won't see flash on this or the iPhone. With HTML5 it's not needed. Not to mention it's insecure and horribly maintained by Adobe. (Macromedia was better)
- 148Apps
What do you all think that little keyboard button means? bluetooth? I hope so.
Diego Petrucci and TouchGen liked this
flip up... flip down?
- TouchGen
Sadly I think it's the hide keyboard button, like on the iPhone
- Mark H
It's a keyboard with a little down arrow -- hide keyboard?
- 148Apps
the Apple wireless aluminum keyboard just had a firmware update a few days ago. I'm guessing the update has support for the iPad.
- Joe Perrin
Leo still broadcasting audio only here: http://www.ustream.tv/leolapo...
Question: How will Apple convince people to adopt the 4th screen (TV, computer, cell phone, and tablet)? When Apple came out with the iPhone they were replacing a current necessary device, the phone. The tablet is a 4th screen, how do they convince people that they need it?
They could easily pitch it to the coach potatoes I guess!
- TouchGen
With hip commercials and catchy music.
- Marbru
I think Gruber is right, and they'll position it as a laptop - when you want a new MacBook, you'll go iPadd
- Rob LeFebvre
At least partly by what content types are best consumed on it? Newspapers / magazines / text books are all not so great on iPhone size screen, and laptops are also too big, unwieldly for those. This sits nicely in the middle.
- Patrick Jordan
I agree with gruber too. people need a simpler device than notebooks. The Macbook will fade away and will remain the Macbook Pro for power users
- Diego Petrucci
Patrick -- I can't see people going for a $800 - $1000 device for magazines/comics/textbooks, to be honest. It's gonna have to do more.
- Rob LeFebvre
Honestly, my laptop gets used in the couch in front of the TV most of the time, so I'm ready to move to the Tablet. And if it gets rid of all my paper magazines and gets me cheaper online versions with a touch of Minority Report, as well some other nice functionalities, I'm a day one'er.
- Sven Van de Perre
@ThePortableGamer - I agree, it has to / will do lots more.
- Patrick Jordan
One big issue -- the tablet is not a laptop replacement. It runs the iPhone OS, not Mac OSX (or so we are to believe). Not a full laptop replacement -- more like a large format iPhone.
- 148Apps
What I'm expecting today -- Content is king. iWork '10 and/or iLife '10. Aperture update. iPhone OS 4.0. Oh yeah, and some tablet thingy (available in March).
When does anyone think iPhone OS 4.0 gets released? Today? March? Next week?
- Patrick Jordan
iPhone OS 4 release to developers soon -- to the public in June/July for the iPhone.
- 148Apps
I'd agree with that.
- Brad Brooks
So tablet not released until June / July also?
- Patrick Jordan
Tablet may have iPhone OS 4 early. Or may run 3.2 until June/July.
- 148Apps
Hmmm - and 3.2 gets released today / soon then?
- Patrick Jordan
Yeah -- most likely.
- 148Apps
March makes sense, since that was the iPhone timeline. Would LOVE to see it happen sooner, but no worries. Content IS king - but the internet already exists. How do we get our content from free to paid? That's a challenge.
- Rob LeFebvre
APPLE EVENT: So.. place your bets... what's it gonna be called? I call iTablet! But it could be anything!
See, iSlate used to really annoy me, but it's growing on me... I'm betting on that.
- Mark H
I like the one Gruber mentioned a few days back - Canvas.
- Patrick Jordan
iPad or perhaps Tabloid
- 148Apps
Though I'd love to see the Newton name back in some form
- 148Apps
iBook. I want them to bring that name back.
- Marbru
I mentioned iBook would be a good name to revive on our podcast a few weeks back... glad I'm not the only one.
- TouchGen
iBlown
- Swaroop
Sudden deal with Google changes new Apple device name to iTabDroid :)
- Paradox Olbers
ick on the iSlate. I like iPadd, but doubt it'l happen
- Rob LeFebvre
Apple Event to Focus on Reinventing Content, Not Tablets | Epicenter | Wired.com - http://www.wired.com/epicent...
Jeff P. Henderson and TouchGen liked this
"Although most of the speculation has centered on a tablet device that will likely be announced at the event, Apple CEO Steve Jobs probably has bigger plans in mind. (Click for live coverage of the Apple event, which starts 10 a.m. Pacific time on Jan. 27.) Apple’s goal is to offer a new platform for content creators to reinvent books, magazines and online content — in addition to offering a new avenue for content producers to make money. That platform will likely be far broader than just a tablet device, and will extend to every device or computer that iTunes touches."
- 148Apps
from Bookmarklet
In other words, "It's the media, stupid!"
- 148Apps
So will it rescue the newspaper / magazine industry, or put the last few nails in the coffin for some of them?
- Patrick Jordan
It will give them an opportunity. But, honestly, they may not be smart enough to take it. Look how long it took most newspapers and magazines to get online. Many still haven't really committed. Those that have, don't really have a clue.
- 148Apps
Yup, I agree. They appear to be even more clueless than the music industry, if that's even possible.
- Patrick Jordan
But will you be able to cook Sushi on it?
- TouchGen
Fwd: engadget: Is this the Apple tablet? http://www.engadget.com/2010... - http://twitter.com/engadge... (via http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...)
My guess is that yes, this is it!
- 148Apps
Big. Very big looking.
- Patrick Jordan
Just noticed -- does look like there's a front-facing camera in the one picture. Look opposite of the home button. Also, resolution calculated to be 1024x768 by some smart folks on the Macrumors.com forum.
- 148Apps
The lack of front facing camera isn't entirely surprising. Remember back before the iPhone release, when R+D teams at Apple said they only had access to the components necessary to testing whatever they were working on so they wouldn't know the final look of the device?
- Mark H
i gotta say chrome is nicer than firefox
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TAB report a today launch of SD for $5.99 using in app payments, hence 3.0 must be coming out today to support these features, unless they're planning to push in app out as a separate update.
Jean-Francois Martin liked this
Yep... maybe...
- Jean-Francois Martin
They mentioned it's available today for $5.99, and will be updated when OS 3.0 comes out. So, maybe not today.
- 148Apps
Talking Find My iPhone -- first new feature we've seen today.
zsafwan liked this
Showing the clip from 30 Rock where Liz loses her phone.
- 148Apps
They win huge points for that, 30Rock have made fun of them this season, good to see they take it well.
- Mark H
I will now renew my MobileMe subscription... now if they only would add car key support.
- Chris H
Pings even in silent mode.
- Lars Trieloff
AT&T will NOT support teathering at roll out.
LOL
- Marcelo Baltar
Crowd is hissing and laughing -- Scott didn't even mention AT&T.
- 148Apps
this is a JOKE !
- Jean-Francois Martin
I need to move out of the country.
- Chris H
I hope they say that AT&T won't support it but Verizon will.. Just a hope.
- 148Apps
can't ATT see how bad all this is making them look? Do they care?
- John Hollandsworth
AT&T will NOT be ready to support MMS at launch.
those bastards!
- 148Apps
They are so weird... they talk about upgrading speed and stuff but no mms support...
- Jean-Francois Martin
I love the laughter... AT&T is a joke.
- Chris H
29/76 isn't a great success rate
- Mark H
who cares?
- Marcelo Baltar
MMS is a thing of the past maybe ?
- Jean-Francois Martin
if they can't do MMS, how could they possibly do video chat?
- 148Apps
I'm starting to doubt the front facing camera.
- Chris H
Anyone else think an hour is a long time to announce one phone?
We'll see lots of app demos form the big boys - EA, Game Loft, ngmoco, etc.
- 148Apps
Not so sure...
- Jean-Francois Martin
Please, don't... They have already done that...
- Marcelo Baltar
Yes, but still, an hour? Am thinking we may see more than one phone.
- Mark H
Or Apple TV :(
- Mark H
I'm telling you... John Mayer.
- Chris H
Agree, Mark... Maybe... Steve??? rs
- Marcelo Baltar
A lot of people talking about Apple TV in the crowd before the start.
- 148Apps
Steve'd be nice, Scott's fine... but an hour of Scott...
- Mark H
$29 it is -- for Leopard users.
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That makes sense, as an incremental upgrade
- Mark H
Crowd going wild?
- Mark H
Ding! That's nice. I can go for that.
- Keith Kolmos
hum... Say that to Micro$oft, Mark...
- Marcelo Baltar
People like cheap. I like cheap.
- Chris H
Crowd went very wild -- but short of a standing ovation.
- 148Apps
Microsoft don't understand the meaning of incremental, Marcelo!
- Mark H
LOL... Yeah... You're right
- Marcelo Baltar
TUAW and Engadget now both reporting a $29 price point for Snow Leopard with a September release.
Lars Trieloff liked this
No word here yet.
- 148Apps
That's it $29. Incredible.
- Lars Trieloff
Safari 4 ships today on all platforms - Leopard, Tiger, Windows.
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To be honest, not particularly impressed by these tactics from Apple. Feel's like they're stooping to Microsoft's level, and they really don't need to - can anyone say 'Laptop Hunters'. On the other hand, with the new pricing 'Laptop Hunters' is officially dead in the water.
13" MBP price starts at just $1199!
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