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I'm dropping science like I'm Louis Gray, yo!
I love this pic. :) - Louis Gray
double *bitchlips* - BEX
Louis is taller than me? *cries* - Derrick
No Derrick, you were just slouching. Plus Louis had on shoes with thick soles. - FFing Enigma
Tina, it's like you TOOK the picture!! - Derrick
I was standing on a Derrick's left foot. He has big feet, gentlemen... - Louis Gray
1UP Louis - Derrick
my contribution to the louis gray meme: http://i43.tinypic.com/mj93qs... - Adam Singer
awesome Adam! - BEX
*fist bump* Adam - Derrick
Derrick wins the Moment of Win once again - Josh Haley
I wanan meet Louissss lol - Gordon Swaby
Dropping science? Not coolz - orionstarr
bump. - mjc
Bump for the good times. - Mark Krynsky
awww, this pic was taken right after I met Derrick <3 - Tamara, #TeamMarina
What is this, memory lane? :) - Louis Gray
I took this picture. I have an uncanny method for extracting bitchlips. - Mark Krynsky
:) - edythe
*bump* - Derrick
We should retake this in Nawlins. - Louis Gray
Co-sign. - Derrick
Make it so. - Micah
I think Louis Gray has better bitchlips than Robert Scoble. http://ff.im/p9MCJ - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
This make me happy and sad. Great to see you, guys! But sad for FFundercats and FF... - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
This is Derrick's oldest and most favoritest shirt. - Louis Gray
Still a MOW. - Mary B: #TeamMonique from iPhone
Indeed it is. I love this shirt. - Derrick
Meanwhile, I have probably never worn that shirt since. Ugh. - Louis Gray
Guess who just heard FriendFeed is getting shut down...these 2. - Mark Krynsky
Derrick will always be my boo. - Louis Gray
I think kids use the term "Bae" now Louis. - Mark Krynsky
Kol Tregaskes
No Matter How Hard You Try, It Is Impossible To Fax A Cat #shareit
LOL! - Kol Tregaskes
That poor cat looks so confused. - kendrak
but it's so warm on top of the scanner! - DJF
Time for a cat scan! - Jemm
Iz I the right way up for printing? - Vicky
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws. - Soup in a TARDIS
LOL, Soup! - Kol Tregaskes
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out... - Greg Lato
Kitty!!!! - Janice
keep trying! - Morgan
FEED ME A CAT - tehKenny
Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying. - Steven Perez
Push harder - Josh Haley
LOL@Jemm - AJ Batac
آخی - یک بابک
Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
1 closer....hilarious! - Jeffrey Marsh
There we go 150 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez.... - Stephanie Segel
thanks, i needed a laugh - chaz2b
iz dat some copycat? - bora "head" basman
LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer! - Threepwood
Just one more like... please. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
it's over two huuunddreeeed - bora "head" basman
MOAR! - Pat Hawks
I need 9 copies please ! - Faraz Mullick
A cute cat :) - Mohammad Abdurraafay
Haha, Faráz. - Kol Tregaskes
Next target, 250 likes. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Friendfeed loev faxcat :o - Karl Knechtel
Pussy by fax. What will they think of next? - Mattb4rd
X)) - Neya
OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic. - Alistair (alpinefolk)
You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!! - Kol Tregaskes
Kol, this thread is pure genius. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
But only almost 50 comments.. :) - Simon Wicks
Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate! - Ivan Zuzak
Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
there we go then for the 1500+!! - Jaap Willem
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers. - Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... - Kol Tregaskes
OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy! - Kol Tregaskes
Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again. - Mr. The Jason Fleming
I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder - anna sauce
Hehe, Anna. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P - Richard A.
I'd like again if I could :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev
bump - Simon Wicks
Richard, LOL! - Kol Tregaskes
Awesomely funny! - Martha
Next target: 400 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
theres one more for you Kol - Toby Graham
Toby, you're very kind. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Cute *_* - Sybelle
Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
can you spare a cat 6 likes? - Mr. The Jason Fleming
sweet - Eric Hofmann
Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT. - Mike Nayyar
Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Awesome. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
this is underfaksink at its worzt - pb:
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" .. - pb:
Ah, OK, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :] - pb:
OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
433 Like ! Wow ! - Like
Freemor, yes very cute! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
cute~ - Chan Pen
that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax. - Phil Maxwell
oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink - pb:
Just 5 more likes needed. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Fax, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test) - Iphigenie
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes). - Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little - Steve C, Team Marina
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What? - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
LOL, Kevin. - Kol Tregaskes
i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm - Iphigenie
Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED! - sofarsoShawn
Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Countdown! 8 more now! - Mike Nayyar
bump for more likes - Josh Haley
One more!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
I took mine away, too much pressure. - Steve C, Team Marina
Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that. - kendrak
меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот - Покак Пузантес
Kendra, absolutely. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all! - Kol Tregaskes
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
wish I could double like! - metalerik
Wish I could just like it at all. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-) - Kol Tregaskes
But it's a cat being crushed... - Richard A.
برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟ - نصرآبادی
Hehe, Richard. - Kol Tregaskes
copy cat - gibilix
518 like! most liked post? - Lu Tao
ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :)) - Arzu
Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
*bump* - Andre
Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!! - Roberto Bonini
OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!! - Kol Tregaskes
So we know how many people use this site. - Richard A.
So that's what Paws Printing means. - Jack&Cleo
Richard, we getting there. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Jack, hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
this thread is making history. - vijay
Indeed .. this is a most epic thread - Mattb4rd
Hehe. 9 more for 550! - Kol Tregaskes
8... - sofarsoShawn
7. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this" - sofarsoShawn
Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get??? - Roberto Bonini
Gosh, no idea. - Kol Tregaskes
take some bets then come back in a year to check? - Iphigenie
:) - SokooteDel
Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes! - Mattb4rd
552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
560! - sofarsoShawn
And back down to 559. Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo? - Susan Beebe
I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat! - Rich
Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
564! - sofarsoShawn
I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken - Mr. The Jason Fleming
maybe a good way to clone cats :) - Roberto
Hehe, Roberto. - Kol Tregaskes
This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!? - Kol Tregaskes
It could! Keep bumping it up! - imabonehead
It will :) - Roberto Bonini
Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-) - j1m
No yet. Close though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Stuck on 581. - Kol Tregaskes
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-) - John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John. - Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی - Maryaminaa
11 more to 600. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟ - Exir
هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D - Shayan
Hehe, 6 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600 - Josh Haley
Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
it's 598+3, at the moment ;-) - Andre
There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!! - Kol Tregaskes
3 people un liked :( - Roberto Bonini
I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well. - Kol Tregaskes
too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;) - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Haha, Jason. - Kol Tregaskes
614!!!!! - sofarsoShawn
Whoa! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)] - pb:
Petr, who's he? - Kol Tregaskes
omg, this post passed 600 likes! - imabonehead
@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there .. - pb:
I see. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Day 11 and this thing's still going! - Phil Maxwell
Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-) - Willem (@wim66) ☠
whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible - Megan Craig
Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography? - sofarsoShawn
Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-) - sofarsoShawn
this makes me laugh every darn time I see it - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Who is this NShawnFW? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
kitties do like to find new spots to nap :) - Maryam
LOL, now over 650 likes. - Kol Tregaskes
این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟ - Maryaminaa
Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol? - Roberto Bonini
Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :) - Maryaminaa
Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
lol - Maryaminaa
I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture - Kevin J Hatton
Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead - Mattb4rd
Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
10 more likes for 700! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
7 more by my count! - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or... - sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Wow, not so bad huh? \u) - Zu from AOD
Must try this at home! - Anthony K. Valley ©
Bumping some old great posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Now THAT is a classic! - Allan Besselink
you have to flatten it first!!! ;) - Neda S.
This is very good humor! - TrafficBug
Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
just a couple thousand to go - Mr. The Jason Fleming
LOL - Smeerch
__awesome__ - scotu
and it got resurrected once again! - Iphigenie
I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy. - Seth Greenblatt
Bump. - Kol Tregaskes
I'm so glad this thread has been revived. The cat in the fax machine never fails to delight. - Michelle Jones
I've heard of cheap paper but this is ridiculous!! - Neda S.
Copy the cat - Alyn William
And there I was thinking this was the most liked post on FriendFeed. Darn, just 3rd. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Just 100 more likes to go. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Missed this the first time around. - John (bird whisperer)
Wow, over 700 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
715 likes and counting. - Kol Tregaskes
Fax Yeah! - × × ×
who revived that one? - Iphigenie
Me, sorry. - Kol Tregaskes
Just 40 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
all right let's do it... - Iphigenie
Love this one! - Fossil Huntress
Bumping, I think we need to get this to 700 likes before FF closes, right? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
I mean it's got to beat Robert Scoble's post to get it to the most liked post on FF. Oh please. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
... which is 737 likes. - Kol Tregaskes
Oh wait, just found a post with 1023 likes! No way we'll beat that. - Kol Tregaskes
:D - رامین
Yippee, 705 likes. Next target is 738. - Kol Tregaskes
wow! more than one million comments! :D - آریــوبرزن
:D - اميرو
A million comments? - Kol Tregaskes
Oh, you mean me? Yes but most are probably imports. - Kol Tregaskes
713 likes and counting. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
yes man! you obviously are very good at breaking the records! :)) - آریــوبرزن
Oh wow, 725 likes. Nearly there. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
8 more likes to go. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Is it at 734 now? #teambeatscoble - Joe
735 now, just 3 more to get into second place. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
736 likes, two more and I'll stop bugging everyone, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Yippee!! Thank you very much everyone. This is now the second most liked post on FriendFeed. No way, is it going to beat the first. But hey, :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Where is the first one Kol Tregaskes? - alireza6211
Running out of time. Come on ffeople! NEED MOAR LIKES! - April Russo (FForever!)
alireza6211, the first one? - Kol Tregaskes
April, hehe. We have nearly 300 likes to go before beating the top liked post. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
this feed actually shows us once again "the real" conqueror of the webland! :D - آریــوبرزن
If there are 300 more active users out there that have not liked this yet, please do so now! We need to make this the top liked post in the history of Friendfeed! Go! Go! Go! - April Russo (FForever!)
Hehe, thanks April. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
760 likes is amazing whatever happens and I thank every one of you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
lol - doper
A. T.
ok, me in this me myself meem - A. T.
утомлён? - 9000
усталость перманентна, здесь же наложилось... вчерашние события. - A. T.
You're looking alittle green, are you feeling well? Oh wait that is just the N81 camera. ;-) - LonelyBob
exactly, color distortions in N81 8M are making it more into lomography than photography as such ;) - A. T.
oh, I thought that you are female :D - saeedeh
interesting... and what made you thinking that way? :) - A. T.
just I guess :) - saeedeh
Steven Perez
Busy bunneh is busy today, in spite of appearances. :) - Steven Perez from Bookmarklet
Good morning. - John (bird whisperer)
hola senor - imabonehead
Good morning, John. :) - Steven Perez from Android
Hola, Ima! :) - Steven Perez from Android
Barry! :) - Steven Perez from Android
Hey Mr B ..it is snowing yet again.... - VALZONE#SCREWED
Hey, Val. Yes, it is. :) - Steven Perez from Android
Good morning, Bunneh! - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
Good morning Bunneh! - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Good morning, pretty Tam Tam. :) - Steven Perez
Good morning, DB. :) - Steven Perez
Mary Carmen
It's been a while since there was a thread like this: which FFers are still on your "wanna meet" list?
Jennifer D, Katy S, moto, scott, jed, friar, jim, jenny h, evind, bunneh, heather, helen & pete, tam, z,...probably a few others that i'm forgetting. eta: derrick, melly, barbara fister - Sir Shuping is just sir
Including the ones above, I would also add Barbara Fister, Holly, Jenica, LB, Louis Gray, SAM, Marissa, Jimminy, and maybe /just maybe/ Akiva. - Joe
I forgot Barbara! I'd say LB, but I see her to often as is. She's funnier online :P - Sir Shuping is just sir
Most of 'em ... You would be in the top ten :-) - Shannon - GlassMistress
Derrick, Melly, Heather, Jenny... - Lola Bean (Penguin) from iPhone
Most of 'em, yeah. - bentley
Hookuh, Derrick, MoTO, Cristo, Jimminy, Mark J., Melly, Pete & Helen, Spidra, Zulema, Shevonne, Heather, LB, Lnor, T-Ra, John (Bird Whisperer), Kristin, Just Katie, Rah, Victor, Andrew C., Johnny, Josh, Mo, and dozens more I just insulted by forgetting (oops). Edit: Such as Andrew, Stephan, SteVe, Steven, Jennifer, Katy, Jed, Soup, Brent, Bren, and FALOB. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I would link to my 'breakfast' list but Stephen provides a good proxy. I'd add Colette, Akiva, Eric, Scott and Yourself, SAM, Joe, Soup, Steve, Steven, Stephen, Jennifer, Warmaiden and Jed, Tamara and Adam, Tamara (Beanie), Anna Haro and Robot, Mona, Tina... JUST LOTS OF PEOPLES BECAUSE THEY'RE AWESOME. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Me! - Akiva
In all seriousness, it'd be shorter and more efficient for me to list the people I wouldn't be willing to meet; there are a few. But if I had to choose one person I would like to meet, it'd be Cristo. - Akiva
Anybody I haven't met yet. (And y'all can have Shuping.) - LB needs a hero! from Android
Johnny Worthington and Josh Haley. Rochelle and Audrey and Tobiah. The real Stephen Mack. - Louis Gray from Android
Now that I live on Canada's west coast, I wanna visit all still-active FFers in the great states of Washington, Oregon, California and, obviously, Nevada :) - Brent Schaus
And I want to ride in Christopher Harley's cab (even though he's no longer active). - Brent Schaus
Pretty much everyone (I don't get out much and haven't met many yet). - Katy S
^ same. I'd love to meet just about everyone that I've met here and interacted with. - Jennifer Dittrich
I dunno. Everyone I've met from FF ends up leaving. - Steven Perez
Everyone here has been supa-nice, so I'd like to meet any and all of you. - Jed
All you ripelings - Mo Kargas
Everyone. Except Akiva. I mean, who eats RAW toast???? - Stephan Planken from iPhone
(Just kidding, Akiva.) - Stephan Planken from iPhone
Bunneh Perez, Hookuh, MoTO, Spidra, Heather, Jennifer D, Mo, Melly and Josh, Jed and Warmaiden, Brent, JWo, T-Ra, SteVe, Just Katie, John Bird Whispyrear, SAM, Marissa... pretty damned much everyone i regularly interact with and a few i seldom get to, really. i can't get my mind to send back the data right now. if i omitted you it's cos i'm addled. :P - Big Joe Silenced
oh yeah, MARY AND SCOTT. sorry! - Big Joe Silenced
Pretty much anyone I interact with regularly. I haven't met very many FFers yet. - John (bird whisperer)
I wanna meet probably every person I interact with who I haven't met. & I wanna hang out again with everyone I already have :-) - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Extrapolating Starmama's comment, which sounded like a Kelis song in my head: I wanna meet every person I interact with who I haven't met / I wanna hang out again with everyone I already have, set [insert horn sounds - Funkmaster Flex style] GO! Meet and sit, seating bits, eating with, y'all for a hit, song or bong, nothin' wrong, y'all the bomb. 9) (BIS) - Zu from AOD
I don't think I've met anyone from FF IRL. There are very few that I see online regularly that I wouldn't want to meet, but I guess if I were to start a list, it would include Moto, Silent 3, SAM, Shevonne, Melly, Johnny, LB, Pastor Jim, Friar Will, Jimminy... - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
All a yalls. Lets say we crash a certain FFer's wedding :D - Gunneh-MoTo Calls me that
Stephan++ - Akiva
Gunny may have nailed it (// doh! w/ a nail/gun) as it could be through a massive Google+ Hangout since most did the connecting there in case. Like a tournament with a certain game where teams evolve through different matchups. - Zu from AOD
Mary Carmen
My husband makes *the best* peanut butter & jelly sandwiches.
Thomas Hawk
10 Reasons Why You Should Sign Up for FriendFeed - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
10 Reasons Why You Should Sign Up for FriendFeed
I wish there was a AIR client for FF though. - barl0w
Twhirl works well for FF and it's an AIR client. - Bob M. Montgomery from twhirl
Great article. I want to learn more about the dumping the RSS feeder part. You should share some tips with that. Good stuff. - Amani
Love seeing FF through the eyes of someone who's not a traditional techie =) - FFing Enigma
Thanks Bob! - barl0w
A big part of why I wrote this post and have it running in my number one photo spot on Flickr right now is because I want more of my photography friends to sign up for the service. I *love* seeing photos here on FriendFeed and there are so many talented photographers who are not here yet who need to be. If we can get more of them to sign up, you guys will love their work. Of course there are many great photographers already on here but still a lot more who could join. - Thomas Hawk
I had to re-share this with all my FB friends. :) - Kelly W.
Still trying to figure out this whole friendfeed experience. I've had the account for a while and see lots of my twitter friends posting via ff - Demetri Mouratis
great piece! - mashable
Hi Demetri =) Different people use FF different ways because they want to get different things out of it. What are you hoping to get out of it? - FFing Enigma
Thanks for the tip. I had FF but really never 'got' what it was for. This helped! - Molly Nichelson from twhirl
Nice post Thomas. - Paul Wade
TH - for those photographers that are not on here, I put their flickr id into my Flickr Imaginary friend and see their images that way. However, it would be nice to get more photographers on here with their reader shares and such... - Justin Korn
This is definitely the best "Why Friendfeed" post I've seen. - Nick in Manila
Justin, agreed. I have a bunch of imaginary friend accounts for Flickr/Zooomr users as well. But it is nicer when they actually have accounts here, their work can be liked and commented to the larger FF community, etc. It seems like a few new people signed up today based on this post so I'm happy for that. Thanks Nick! - Thomas Hawk
I have AlertThingy FriendFeed Edition as well as AlertThingy v2 - Outsanity
Well said, Thomas. :) - Josh Haley
Nice list of reasons, all well thought out. While I'm at it, I wanted to tell you that I really like your new blog design too. - Karoli
Do most folks use FF in Standard or Real-time view mode? - Scott Loftesness
Only ever real-time.. it sits nicely on the second monitor as a Chrome App. - Greg Gannicott
Realtime here... - Chris Gulker
Did you just reformatted your post, Thomas? It a lot easier to scan through now. - Alan Le
Alan, a lot of times I post first and edit later. I probably shouldn't do that, but yeah, after posting I broke up some of the paragraphs better, bolded a few things etc., to make it easier to read. - Thomas Hawk
That's great. Make sure to check out Windows Live Writer for formatting blog posts if you haven't already yet. By the way, I love the new blog design. It's much better than when I helped you with the html way back. http://thomashawk.com/2006... - Alan Le
Y'know... I must've spent two months randomly Tweeting things like "Will someone PLEASE explain to me why I should be using FriendFeed?" ... And then two days ago I start using my account (I'd had one for a while)... and NOW someone finally makes a post outlining why I should be here. You're two days late, Mr. Hawk, two days late. :P - Lou
actually, there's no search for Russian word forms on Frf. For me that looks as if there's no search at all - orie
hmmm.. I didn't know that orie. It seems like there is a lot of international users on FF, that's surprising to me. - Thomas Hawk
I've been trying to make sense of FF for months now, but every time I come away confused. As it is I feel like I'm drowning under all the social networking sites available. I use Twitter, Plurk and Facebook the most, and I use Ping.fm so I only have to post status updates once. How can I integrate FF into this without making things even more confusing? - Chris Taylor
oooh! I found the zooomr version of this post with no formatting and I whined somewhere else in my FF feed. This one with all the formatting is better :D - Tamar Weinberg
I really liked how you did a post on Flicker - MaryAnn Chick Whiteside
All good reasons but #10 is my #1 reason :) - Mark Krynsky
Mark - agreed. Also, Thomas ... very nice blog. I like. - Amani
@Tamar, the unformated text was a problem on the Zooomr image. Kristopher's fixed that bug now so text in descriptions on Zooomr photos should format correctly now. - Thomas Hawk
I wasn't using FF, but signed up after your post. Now let's see if it is really so useful ;-) - Marcel Körner
@Marcel also take into consideration who you are subscribed to. Aside from maybe four on your current sub list, they are not very active at all on FF. This will affect your experience here. - Carlos Ayala
Didn't know there was a "Porn" room on FF (see screenshot)... - David Young
how did you see that they are not active on FF? - Marcel Körner
David, the "porn" room on FriendFeed isn't all that active actually. I'm not really interested in porn per se, just thought it was a good group name to claim in the great FriendFeed land group name grab of 2008. - Thomas Hawk
@Marcel by their numbers, and the fact that i know most of them and can tell you first hand that they are not. (if you hover over people's names you will see their numbers) - Carlos Ayala
still hard to beat 5 years on for speed - Thomas Power
So true Thomas: people still can't as a majority read dynamic feeds. - Zu from AOD
it gives you an easy key to the way back machine - chaz2b
future super rock star - iwfx!
never too soon to ROCK !!! \m/ - Stephanie Segel
So sweet...:O) - Jeannette Høvring
adorable - R. Ferguson
cok isyankar. - Rabia Sozkesen
awesome. - Zee.
listening to some Led Zeppelin? - Neil Bernhart
"I wanna rock!" - iwfx!
awesome! - Fajar Nurdiansyah
awesome indeed! - iwfx!
:) - İdris Cin
this so extra cute.. how did we miss this .its such an early post circa 2009 !! - Peter Dawson
Yeahhhh baby yeaahhhh! - sofarsoShawn
cok super - Fatmanur Erdogan
. - iwfx!
Bret Taylor
FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more
"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api... - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
OAuth? Sweet. Thanks a lot for all the new good stuff in the API: can't wait to use it. - Mark Trapp
very nice. great work! - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Yet another reason to like Bret. :-) - Jesse Stay
Great!!! - YungSang from FriendFoo
nice! - Daniel Rust
good job guys, I bet devs are jumping high right now - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Sweet, congrats! - Ivan Zuzak
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope - Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages? - Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed. - Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks! - Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line? - Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget. - Mark Trapp
Thanks God it is New API. - AlpB. from iPod
Nice progress here with this release! - Micah
I love it! - friday night
Why is wget questionable? - Gabe
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle. - Mark Trapp
Good work, look forward to seeing what developers can create - Joe Dawson
doublepluslike - Vezquex
curl FTW. - Jeremy Kunz
This is great, FriendFeed team. Good job. - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-) - Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :) - Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;) - Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!! - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ from iPhone
thank you;) waiting for the release :) loving clone - abdellah from FriendFeed API Example
Yay subscribers exposed! - EricaJoy
Finally OAuth, I had a hard time memorizing my remote key. - Hugh Isaacs II
This is indeed very cool, anybody started on a c# version? - Jesper Lind
Louis Gray
Hours away from my friend's wedding at 4, I get spotted wearing a tux. Don't tell anybody or show them these pictures.
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Here in West Hollywood, my best friend of 18 years and his boyfriend are getting married. So yes, I get to be a groomsman at a gay wedding - prop 8 or not. Should be awesome. - Louis Gray
Your secret is safe on the Internet - Kevin L
and you appear to be about 30 feet tall - Allen Stern
Sharp - Johnny
Have fun! Nice tie/waistcoat - anna sauce
I invited Derrick to the bachelor's party last night, but he couldn't come, because he had a date. :) - Louis Gray
You guys are in charge. Make sure not to look at or show anyone these photos. - Louis Gray
Nice tie! I won't tell anyone :) - bev
PS... I think that's a bag of awesomesauce tied up with a HELL YEAH bow :) - Johnny
Doesn't one normally wear a bow tie with a tux? - Oniony
You are teh hawtness, sir! - Ordinarybug Heather
Oniony- you can wear a few diff. kind of ties. - anna sauce
cool Louis! - metalerik
A force to be reckoned with! - Micah
I do know the two grooms! Congrats you crazy two, and have fun Louis. Give them my best. - Derrick
Swanky! Nice, Louis, very nice! - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I hear there are other pictures ;-) - Jesse Stay
Sharp - Wayne Sutton from iPhone
It was a fantastic ceremony. One of the best weddings I have ever seen. It was traditional Jewish themed, so I am wearing a yarmulke to match the vest and tie. Lots of great friends from my teenage years. - Louis Gray from iPhone
Louis, I own a yarmulke as well - my wife brought it for me when she visited Israel - Jesse Stay
Lookin' sharp, Louis! - Ayşe E.
Spiffy, Mr. Gray. - imabonehead
"Don't tell anybody," he tells everybody. ;) - Dennis Jernberg
Can't wait to see the pics. - Derrick
I won't breathe a word, Louis. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
hi Louis, wish you can have a look at this: http://reader2twitter.appspot.com - kang
You need a tie with a FriendFeed logo or something - Outsanity
:D good one, Sean! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Awesome. - jan geronimo
Gay wedding with a tie,fun - Steve Chou
LOL 'Swanky' Great pic, you do look 30 feet tall! - Harold Cabezas
who is that guy? He almost looks scared about the tux! - Chris Myles
With the suit on, Louis looks like he works for a federal agency. :P - imabonehead
@imabonehead, u r right, it reminds me of agent mulder of x files - TrafficBug
Sending an "atta-girl" Mrs. Gray's way - MiniMage
hi nice to meet u... - Nylissk Letnomorg Elo
Hmmm - Louis Gray
+ a million for the whole thread. Looks like you're picking up some admirers here, Louis! Nylissk, we gotta warn you, you're ging after a married man with many admirers. You want a piece of this guy, you're gonna have to get in line - like filing a lien on a house with five mortgages and a line of credit, with outstanding remodeling bills. ;-) - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Hey, who is this guy from the past. Has he come to warn us about the future? - Eric - Final Countdown
michael sean wright
The completely unauthorized, uncalled for nightcrew logo
LOL! This one doesn't look like a convenience store sign - Rahsheen
You're going to make Lacy jealous - Pete D
Can someone make a list of the Night Crew ;) - Brandon
no no Brandon, let's not to do that...anyone should be welcome and making a list will just exclude people... - Zee.
Now thats a logo! - Michael Fidler
Yeah, NightCrew is just anyone who is around at ungodly hours... - Rahsheen
Does Kyle know about this? ;-) - Justin Korn
Ooooh, noice! - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Cool Logo! - Jeff P. Henderson
@zee oh yes... you're right. lol - Brandon
Very, very nice! - Daynah
Okay... come on people.. I say we vote on it.. :) - Kyle Lacy
Just remember- this is not a competition, just an exhibition. @Kyle - ever been to Culver, IN? Grew up there before moving to Chicago. - michael sean wright
Nice: I have been to Culver! You are in Chicago now? I will have to let you know next time I am up your way. - Kyle Lacy
LOVE - Mona Nomura
love it - anna sauce
Now on West Coast, Dana Point, CA. Family still in Chicago, visit as often as I can. - michael sean wright
That's us, all right. - Steven Perez
*** KEEPER!! Love it!! *** we should update the Facebook Night Crew page with this one!! Just wait till Kyle shows up! LOL - Susan Beebe
There's a Facebook Night Crew page? url please. - michael sean wright
I love it. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
has it really been nearly 6 months since we've seen this? - michael sean wright
like a flash, nff - Pete D
Wow, blast from the past. - Rochelle
WTF? Damn, How'd I miss this? - tehKenny
Yeah, baby! Makes me wanna stay up a little lo.....*snoooooooooooooooooooore* - Rahsheen
have no idea how you east coasters do it. but dang it's fun to be around ff at night! - michael sean wright
A lot of coke...uh...caffeine... - Rahsheen
It looks like at least 5 or 6 yes votes, and 0 no votes. The logo is official. Now put it back into storage. - Pete D
Is there a theme song? - Rebecca Lasley
The theme song to Mr. Belvedere. - Pete D
I remember... :) - Micah
is it time? - michael sean wright
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." - Douglas Adams . So I think I'll go have some lunch. - David HC Soul
isn't time universal? - michael sean wright
Not sure about that, but: "Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future and time future contained in time past. If all time is eternally present all time is unredeemable." - Swatch, Always Now, 1997 (and yes my lunch, at 1:42am local, is consisting of a double martini so that actually makes some sense to me) - David HC Soul
are you saying that time "now" has no meaning? i (obv.) reject this but toast your willingness to acknowledge the wisdom of a dean martin martini. now, for you sir, on to the work of most importance. focus on the permanent. - michael sean wright
Well, I will grant that the sentiment of French Marshall Lyautey has some merit (he asked his gardener to plant a tree and when the gardener objected that the tree was slow growing and would not reach maturity for 100 years the Marshall was said to have replied, 'In that case, there is no time to lose; plant it this afternoon!').... So I am off to plant some trees.... - David HC Soul
you, i like. and will point you to Hermann Hesse before he won the Nobel Prize for 'The Glass Bead Game' in which he wrote in in the idyllic poem "Hours in the Garden" (1936)- 'I hear music and see men of the past and future. I see wise men and poets and scholars and artists harmoniously building the hundred-gated cathedral of the Mind." - (forword to Glass Bead Game by by Hermann Hesse by Theodore Ziolkowski.) - michael sean wright
Thanks for the pointer - I'll go search it out. - David HC Soul
this is about conversation right? - michael sean wright from IM
I hope so. The thought is consuming much of my waking hours these days.... But I have to be up in 5 hours... so will have to return to the 'nightcrew' tomorrow night. One thing about time is it does seem to age one.... - David HC Soul
sleep perchance to dream, a wise man said. Billy Shakespeare. - michael sean wright
Then pause now to ask yourself the following question: "Am I dreaming or awake, right now?" - David HC Soul
remember when? - michael sean wright
Yes, sir. - Akiva
You bet I remember. :) - Micah from FFHound!
HAH!!! - Rahsheen
WHAT! WHAT!!!! - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Attention friendfeed nightcrew: have we circled each other yet on @GooglePlusTweet (google +) ? http://gplus.to/nicefishfilms - michael sean wright
man, most of the ppl who liked this i haven't seen on FF in ages. maybe i'm doing it wrong. - Big Joe Silenced
for most of us we met here, stayed loyal here but the sun set long ago : ( what a rush of a time that was! now we find ourselves over at g+ telling stories of the good ol' days! - michael sean wright
Why, hello there, 2008. :) - Micah
...and keep the fire alive by finding each other again in a new place. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
yep.. scoble and i talked about that in my first post at g+ : ) - michael sean wright
Hi Michael :) - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Meme-inless no more! always been an interesting world with you! - michael sean wright
oh and... i do have some google+ invites left - email me nicefishfilms at g ma i l dot co m - michael sean wright
I'm curious now - did google + make you come back to FF? Because that is v interesting. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
yes, we did the podcast when ff was acquired by the book of face.. watched them absorb the real-time elements and i check in from time to time usually through this post as it brings back very fond memories. google + reminds me of the early days of ff - haven't felt that way about any of the social nets that have come since the facedbooked swallow up. heaven knows we've been on them all and they seem so ancient now -- quora anyone? google got it right with +. think it marks the next era for them. - michael sean wright
Google + right now does remind me of the FF glory days and I am curious to see what happens next. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
:) - Anne Bouey
Andy Bakun
After the claim that http://friendfeed.com/rahshee... wouldn't start a meme, I had to at least give it a try. This is mildly better to look at than the original that the lickers came from (you know which image I'm talking about, I refuse to link to it).
O_o - Derrick
This is just evil - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I feel so dirty.... - Rahsheen
Those guys are getting sand all over your bathroom floor. - Andy Bakun
Genius. - Spidra Webster
...... - Alix May
ROFL - Anika
Win. - Bryce Roney
either those dudes are 4 feet tall or Rah constantly bangs his head on the ceiling. - Big Joe Silenced
Gak! - rønin
the scale makes it even funnier - Josh Haley
Uhm. Yeah...still feel dirty. And violated somehow. LOL. - Rahsheen
Damn, I should have pasted someone else's head on your shoulders, Rahsheen. - Andy Bakun
Heh, I didn't even notice the scale when I was doing the cutting and pasting. - Andy Bakun
paste on my zombie head. I DARE YOU! - Big Joe Silenced
Oh. My. Land. - Rochelle
Giant Rah is Giant. - Anika
OH. MY. G-D. IT'S FULL OF OH F:LKb. LGb-n - Akiva
so many straight lines, so little energy. - Big Joe Silenced
I am speechless. I am without speech. - Akiva
that guy needs a shave - Ian May
I'll leave that for someone else to do, Dead Silence. We're trying to make this a meme, after all. - Andy Bakun
All Rasheen needs is a couple of nipple rings and he is TOTALLY the Persian from 300. - Katie B
But how did the puppies get out? - Sparky, lurking
This must keep live in the feed. - Spidra Webster
Well uh....but he's so...and the other guys ar...oh my. - vicster.
So is Kamilah going to draw this today? - Rochelle
Oh my! What is this Mo Kargas-èque scaled thing? And Akiva you're guilty. - directeur
Um... How does Rahsheen feel about this, anyway? He seemed like he was being a good sport about it up above here... - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
LOL. - Zee.
Such talent......LOL. - Bonnie Foster
Bwahahahaha! - John (bird whisperer)
I knew the "Remove It Permanently" Firefox addon would come in handy. - Sue - Friendfeed is best
Since I can't hide this by going to "My discussions" page, I'm commenting now so it'll appear in my home page with the "Hide" Link! #smartiam - directeur
Only about 1040 more comments to go until we overtake the original! - Andy Bakun
scale disparity makes the hilarity. - Big Joe Silenced
Petr is no fun. - Rochelle
Petr just needs to embrace this at full face, err full chest value. - Sparky, lurking
Commenting on this just to make Robert Scoble sad. - Rob H.
Ha! Forever immortalized in a Scoble screenshot. There's no stopping crazy beach guys licking Rahsheen's chest now! - Andy Bakun
LOL! - Steven Perez
Win win win... - Hookuh Tinypants
Bonnie, who has the talent? I hope you're not referring to me, this is the shittiest photoshopping (well, GIMPing), I've ever done. That being said, I spent way too much time on it when I did it. - Andy Bakun
Andy, this did get reused. I think you missed it http://friendfeed.com/kmeelah... - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Awesome. Immortalized in line art. - Andy Bakun
Let us never forget! - Andy Bakun
You seem to be forgetting! - Andy Bakun
Dayum! That dude is freaking ripped! Oh...wait...nevermind :( - Rahsheen
LOL!!! - Spidra Webster
Insert gratuitous Kanye meme here. ;) - Dennis Jernberg
Now accepting suggestions for heads to paste on this body. - Andy Bakun
Crap...there are dudes licking my chest. So highly unacceptable. On the plus side, I look huge in this pic. LOL. - Rahsheen
At this point, I'm not sure we can be confident this is actually your chest. I call Possible Shinanigans. - Andy Bakun
there are undoubtably shenanigans, but I think it is Rah's chest. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Andy could probly supply source for the Rah chest.. - Big Joe Silenced
I will acknowledge I got it off friendfeed, but the assertion of who's it is is not legitimately authenticated. We're gonna have to see a Certificate of Authenticity for this chest. - Andy Bakun
A new year, an old meme mashup. - Andy Bakun
This is the health plan you *really* want. - Andy Bakun from Android
This is making me giggle. - iTad
GAH! my eyesight had just returned and now THIS!! - Big Joe Silenced
And now you can see better, right? - Andy Bakun
;knfklnbf'bbflb?/b// - Big Joe Silenced
HA! - David Cook from fftogo
Wait - What? - Brent - Yes I am
It's back! - Andy Bakun
Damn, that's a good six months worth of idleness on this entry, between David Cook and Jason Huebel bumping it. - Andy Bakun
Whoa! - That's So CAJ!
I second the feeling of dirtiness expressed by others. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Alors c'est bon - Bea Blanc
Crap. Did I accidentally just bump this? My bad. - Sparky, lurking
LOL LOL - comix aka martha
Hao Chen
Find Friendfeeders Across The Web - v0.1 - http://haochen.me/ffweb/
This tool finds all the sites that your Friendfeed friends use and allows you to filter the results by service. - Hao Chen from Bookmarklet
Please test, and let me know if it works. Suggestions gladly welcome. - Hao Chen
Wow. - Rahsheen
Hao, this is awesome! Remember how people were saying in the FF Feedback room, how they'd like services to be linked, but not important the feeds? THIS is the temp. solution. WOW. Are you going to implement a way to filter individually? - Mona Nomura
It doesn't actually do that, Mona. If your account is in Friendfeed, it goes into your feed. Hao Chen is merely making it easier to get the URLs from FriendFeed. - Mark Trapp
Looks great. I guess I'll have to look into Social Graph API a bit deeper. It's so much faster than FF API for network data. - Benedikt Koehler
Oops, I meant UN-LINK services so it'll stop pulling into their feed BUT still enable their friends to link to their respective accounts. Thank you for catching that, Mark. - Mona Nomura
Great job Hao - Zee.
It should be possible to use the Social Graph API to find services that are not imported into Friendfeed as well as friends' services not on FF. It's a bit tricky because it requires a lot of separate requests. Right now, it's only using the SG API to find your subscriptions across the services you import on FF. - Hao Chen
Thanks, just don't look at the source code. LOL - Hao Chen
Hao, this is awesome, this is going to save me so much time! Thanks! - Shey
You're welcome. This is me though: http://www.xkcd.com/196/ - Hao Chen
Very cool. However, my tiny brain is not grokking " Remove Connections Already Subscribed To". Please to explain. - Laura Norvig
Laura, it's not very accurate, but it's supposed to remove links to people's accounts on the other networks you already subscribe to. For example, if I already subscribe to Bob on Twitter, it might remove the link to Bob's Twitter page in the big list. - Hao Chen
very kool Hao....Im finding my fellow FF on other services! - (jeff)isageek
Hao, this is very cool; I just used it to great success friending last.fm users. - Pete D
Hao, since I am the lone step child, any idea why it would not work for me. I typed in my ID, nothing happens, no spinning wheel indicating it is thinking. Just looks at my sad face....LOL. - R. Ferguson
Hoa - This is great. Can you add Blip.fm? - Russellreno
this is so awesome Hao - great job!!!!!!!! look out for random add notifications from me :) - Morgan
Aww..Ruth. What browser + ver + OS are you using? Is JavaScript turned on? Try this link? http://haochen.me/ffweb... - Hao Chen
Export to CSV please. :0) - Adam Helweh
wait visita is my OE, my browser is IE. i tried your link still did not work...bummer. - R. Ferguson
I love this Hao. - ChaCha Fance
*spoiler* I never debugged on IE! *spoiler* Sorry, Arne, and thanks for catching that. - Hao Chen
I'm going to have to play with this later...but since Hao is involved, I'm sure it rocks! - Justin Korn from fftogo
Works fine on Safari 3.1.2, FYI. - Mark Trapp
Just fixed for IE! Ruth, please try again? - Hao Chen
Being able to sort the URL data output by either person or service instead of only by person would be nifty. - Laura Norvig
Laura, like grouping all twitter links together for example? - Hao Chen
it worked Hao!!!! - R. Ferguson
How does that work?I type in some user name in it,nothing happen... - Steve Chou
Steve, what browser are you using? Any JavaScript errors? - Hao Chen
Glad to hear you guys are finding uses for it. @Russell Right now, the list of services it displays is the list of services being imported by people's FF accounts, and since Blip.fm isn't a supported service yet, I can't add that in easily. I'll think about how to use the Social Graph API more effectively to do those things though. - Hao Chen
This is just excellent, not wholly accurate like you say but brilliant. Now all I need is to add more contacts on FF ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
very cool Hao - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Another great tool Hao :) - sergiooo
Never seems to work for my own username. - Andrew Trinh
Thanks, guys. :) Andrew, ah, looks like Social Graph doesn't see your FF subscriptions for some reason. http://socialgraph-resources.g... I'll re-code this using the Friendfeed API to get your subscriptions later. - Hao Chen
Very cool Hao! I like seeing which less-common services people actually use. My list (and top 25 services) is http://friendfeed.com/e... Does your system count me twice for YouTube because I have 2 YouTubes? (seems like it might, from the Blog counts). - Mitchell Tsai
It's not working for me either when I input my username. - Steve Lowe
Ditto steplow. Looks like it should be awesome but sadly it's drawing a blank for my username. :( - David Young
Great job, Hao - Zulkarnain K.
For anyone not getting results for their username, I'll post a fix soon, and let you know. - Hao Chen
@Mitchell Yes, it does count twice. - Hao Chen
Wonderful tool for improving connections. Thank you. - Keith - @tsudo
still works. - Hao Chen
I love this. - Laura Norvig
thanks. - Ali Oz
Just remembered about this, unfortunate it's not hosted there anymore, I'll look for any any mirror/archive unless you can provide the code? - Zu from AOD
Mona Nomura - Persian alphabet: مو = Mo & na = نا ==> Mona = مونا - http://www.new.facebook.com/profile...
Vahid!! :O!!! From, مونا - Mona Nomura
چه میکنه Love :D - Mil∂d
این حرفها چیه میلاد جان این آموزش زبان شیرین فارسیه - Vahid۹Online
I'm so embarrassed! LOL - Mona Nomura
I am Japanese = من ژاپنی هستم - Vahid۹Online
I KNEW she smiled...that actually looks like an LOL....IRL, even - Rahsheen
hahahahhahahahahah!! مرسي!! - Mona Nomura
وحید؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ پس خودت شیطنتت گرفته حتی !!!! :))) - انجل
مونا به این میگن مخ زنی به سبک فارسی , میدونم که دیگه اینو عمرا بفهمی :))) اسمایلی وحید مزیدی :)) - Mil∂d
I was born in Canada = من در کانادا به دنیا آمده‌ام - Vahid۹Online
we know vahid is lover , oh My god :D :D :D :D - Mil∂d
I think Mona is laughing her ass off in the picture on the left after she looked at my FriendFeed avatar. - imabonehead
LOL!! - Mona Nomura
holy heck, that self-shot is BANANAS mona, DANG - Marko Bon
I live in San Francisco = من در سانفرانسیسکو زندگی می‌کنم - Vahid۹Online
وحید من فکر کنم این مونا بازار مشترک باشه ها , مثلا چین و آمریکا , صورتش رو نگاه , لااقل میرفتی جنس اصل پیدا میکردی :)))) - Mil∂d
This is so flattering, I can introduce myself in Persian, too!! :) @Marko? You've never seen it? Big version = http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-... - Mona Nomura
من یک دوست داشتم اسمش هاشم بود قیافش کپی مونا بود کاشکی بهش میگفتم یو لوک لایک هاشم :)) - Mil∂d
i think vahid learn persian to mona for love :D just it :))))) - Mil∂d
Vahid please repeat after me : I LOVE YOU دوستت دارم :)) - Mil∂d
*chuckle* - Michael W. May from twhirl
میلاد =)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) - انجل
@ Anna Haro : lol :)) - انجل
ɱil∂ɗ = Milad = میلاد ===> I kill U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) - Vahid۹Online
Dear Mona vahid is kind boy , dont attend to his comment :D - Mil∂d
@Mona, hadn't seen it, no -- sheesh. It's even better bigger. - Marko Bon
AAA وحید از دست رفتی که:)))))))))))))))))))))) - Zahra HB
اِ اِ اِ؟ زهرا جان شما چرا؟ این لینک فقط در راستای استحکام روابط بین الملل و ترویج فرهنگ نوع دوستی ایرانیان بود و بس، اگرنه شاعر میگه دختر ایرونی مثل گله هرکی نخوره خله - Vahid۹Online
این AAA زهرا فحش بود؟ یعنی به من گفت باطری نیم قلمی؟ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Vahid۹Online
it seems you guys really love each other :D:P - nastaran
لایک برای باطری نیمه قلمی :دی - انجل
=))))))) شخم عشق وحید و رونوشت به فرزاد =)) - Mil∂d
Laughing Mona always makes me smile :) - Michael W. May
به به سلام مونا : ) - Farin from iPhone
:)))) چه روزهایی بود ها - smtohidlou
میلاد جان برای اینکه این رو بیاری بالا لازم نبود سرچ اسمت رو بهانه کنی صد تا لینک دیگه رو هم شخم بزنی :)) - Vahid۹Online
This is a classic! :) - Micah
*wonders what Mona would look like with a shaved head* - Adrian
وحید =))) - Mil∂d
میلاد فک کنم اولین بار عاشق اون حالتی شد که تکیه داده به دیوار :)))))) - Farzad
:))) - AidA®
آخی وحید یاد یار قدیمیش افتاده دل تنگ و اینا شده :)))‏ - Farzad
به یاد قدیما :دی - mhmazidi
David Cook
Our baby is going to be a girl!! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Our baby is going to be a girl!!
Congratulations, you guys! - Anika
Congratulations! - Alan (Giraffes)
Congrats Girls are awesome :0 - Gunneh-MoTo Calls me that
YAY for cute little girl outfits!!! - Miriella
Awesome. Best to you and the Mrs. :) - Derrick
The previous due date was the 8th of December. The doctor today told us that he puts her as due on the 27th of November and it's going to be a girl! I'm so excited!!! =D - David Cook
Congratulations!!! - Sarah Lane
Congrats - Robert Burgin
Congratulations, David!! - Mona Nomura
Can i ask, the Dr told you it was a girl from the above scan? In the UK, they arent allowed to tell you the sex anymore unless you ask for the 4D scan which costs! - Alan (Giraffes)
Congrats! - Rachel Lea Fox
The doc was very confident in the scan. He showed us the lack of boy parts and moved on. He said no one has ever come back and told him he was wrong. - David Cook from fftogo
congrads, :) - chaz2b
Congrats!!! I wish you all the luck and pray she is nothing like her great Aunt Karen!! HA! =D - Katt
Congrats! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Congratulations, David! - Micah
Fantastic News. Congrats. - Brent - Yes I am
Wonderful. Take care. - ThinkEzy
Congrats! - Mark Douglass
Congrat - sami from Nambu
Congratulations!! - Kazumoto
hey congrats! - (jeff)isageek
Congrats David :D - Praveen Vasudev
Mazel Tov! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
Yay! - FFing Enigma
Congratulations David!!!!!!! that is great news!! :) - Susan Beebe
Thank you everyone! =D Debbie is already planning the girly clothes and we're going through our name book tomorrow. We both agree that we want something pretty short. Nothing more than 2 syllables. - David Cook
Louis Gray
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These and more were in an e-mail I got from my wife the second I got in to work. Too much fun! - Louis Gray
Your poor kids...when they grow up and find out how you sold them out they might exact revenge! Or they'll just be the coolest kids ever. - Josh Haley
totally renaming you Louis Gray, Mommyblogger. lol - Erin @queenofspain
Cute kids. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Should be default Google Image result when searching for "twins" :) - Mark Krynsky
@Erin, that would be awesome. :-) - Louis Gray
@Louis, is your wife aware of this? http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mark Krynsky
That is cute, love the hats! - Sally Church
Yes, but do you have the LouisGray.com onesies??? - http://jessestay.smugmug.com/gallery... - Jesse Stay
Haha Nice Photos - To Google Forever hah. - Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
most adorable SERPs ever! - sean percival
@Mark, she certainly has seen it now! Thanks a lot. :-) - Louis Gray
awesome * 2 ! - Mattb4rd
Is that the latest from Google Labs?? Babies delivered by email? Great no more morning sickness, and mood swings! I'm sure it's still in beta... - Daan
+1 Daan - dgw from fftogo
The expression on Matthew's face in the 3rd pic! (At least, I *think* that's Matthew.) - Yolanda
=D - David Cook
These twin-geeks have played all web yet.:) - Igor Poltavskiy
My favorite baby geeks! - Daynah
hey these cuties showed up again! :) - Susan Beebe
ha! love it! - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
These are architected to resurface every three weeks. It's a feature, not a bug. - Louis Gray
babypimping.com - the way to beat the economy slowing! HAAH - Allen Stern
with kids this cute you know louis is "Feeling Lucky" ohhhhhhh bad joke alert! - sean percival
got to be the cutest babies i have ever seen. id love a hat and all-in-one like that :D - ♥ Stephiepooos ♥
So should I get a third outfit or make the newbie wear hand me downs? - Louis Gray
If I were the newb, I'd be all over the hmds! - MiniMage
Andrew Trinh
It's great having service icons removed from the posts, that way we focus more on the content rather than the source of the information. That way users won't ignore certain services subconsciously because they've noticed a service icon, rather users ignore a post because it's just not interesting.
Would be nice to have a simple way to sort/filter posts by services though. - Andrew Trinh
Exactly :D - Johnny
I hadn't anticipated it, but it seems so evident now. - Micah
Some how I think people's hidden filters should be reset just because it's a new way to see FriendFeed. Before people probably just hid all these services because one person kept flooding it. - Andrew Trinh
I never liked how FF posts get more activity than posts from other services. I always saw FF as meta to all the services you can import so why should it matter if an item was shared on Google Reader or posted directly to FF. The other trend I don't like to see is people ripping off Reddit or Digg by copying and pasting the headline and linking directly to the article, giving no credit to the original. - Graham English
For me it helps sort whether content is likely to be original or shared. Now I still look for that first, and it just wastes my time, having to find it amongst the rest of the text. - Alix May
What difference does it make if the content is original or shared? If it is interesting and brings about a discussion or enlightens another user then it has served its purpose. - Andrew Trinh
It depends on what your purpose is, Andrew. Mine is to usually get to know individuals better. - Alix May
I never said you can't ignore a particular service, that's what the hide is for. But let the users see the information first without any bias and then let them decide. - Andrew Trinh
Alix, if your purpose is to get to know the individual better then you deserve every right to hide feeds of a user because of which services they use more. But don't let the same bias affect posts by other users, hide it for once and not for all. If after you've considered it that you may not like tweets overall hide it, you don't need to see a service icon to see that. - Andrew Trinh
Isn't the service part of the information? - Andy Bakun
Actually, there is a great risk of people being unfairly labeled as moronic without the icons, if their posts make little sense, as is the case with a lot of stuff from twitter. I can excuse moronic posts from twitter if I immediately know that's where they are from. Without the icons, I can't really do that. That means everyone I follow has to be a twitter poet, or I might mistaken them for idiots. - April Russo (FForever!)
But the service has never disappeared, under each post it still states where each post originates from it's just not the main focus any more. The question is, if you have to filter out so much of your feed that you need icons to see which ones to read why do you have it shown in the first place? - Andrew Trinh
I don't ignore or hide based on service. The icon just often tells me in an instant if this is something the person created or something they think is worth sharing. I never felt the icon was the focus, just an organizational tool. - Alix May
Andrew, I think you might be misunderstanding something, The service icons have informational content themselves, allowing certain types of information to be given greater or lesser or just different weight from the rest. So instead of "allowing people to focus on the content itself" it forces you to focus on all the content equally, which is clearly inappropriate. Twitter posts are different than delicious items which are different than blog posts which are different than things shared directly. - Mr. Gunn
Exactly. I agree with Mr Gunn. Now we have less information than we had before. - Chris Loft
Andrew, agree with you. #betakoltag-ob - Kol Tregaskes
The service icons represent in part the information that is being presented and how/what services that information was found. Without those it makes it more difficult to tie the information together. Plus those little icons are cute. :) - sofarsoShawn
Also the service icons are a way of filtering the information, for example: by clicking on a user's stumbledupon icon all their sites fall into a nice column which is FAR simpler then the complex filtering system in the beta - sofarsoShawn
I have noticed that Friend Feed users are more likely to respond to a post based on the person doing the posting not what service it is rolling out of. - Tony C (Unrated)
I think there is an important point here that I've made on other items. I think there are two qualitatively different modes of using friendfeed. One is person-centric, similar to friendfeed or Twitter. People interested in what a specific person has to say. The other is content centric, the person is secondary to the content they are bringing in or promoting. My guess is that the content-centric viewers do a lot of filtering based on the source of the information, as well as the people it is coming through - Cameron Neylon
Also that the research community (e.g. Life Scientists rooms and others) are more content centric than the general user community. I would think the UI can support both modes of use with a few display options (do don't display service icons, using filtering over service type/number of comments/liks etc.) - Cameron Neylon
That's a good point, Cameron, and considering that the Life Scientists room has over 700 members, one would think their collective opinion would carry some weight. - Mr. Gunn
Just loaded the stylish scripts that remove the personal icons and put back the service icons (HT to Neil Saunders) so I'm happy now. - Cameron Neylon
That may be true, but I still miss the icons :'( - stanjourdan
I appreciate the help, but I'm on chrome ! - stanjourdan
I'll cast a vote in favour of showing service icons whereever they plausibly make sense. - Karl Knechtel
I ignore certain icons too especially when it's the source of most of the content that I find to be boring. Makes sense to me. - Corvida
Bump. - Kol Tregaskes
My (and chrisofspades) service icons script still works (in Firefox) too. :) - Micah
Kol Tregaskes
Just a thought but could we please have the option to re-tweet tweets on FriendFeed?
For me this would mean I could FriendFeed instead of Tweetvisor or Tweetvisor for most of my tweeting. #betakoltag-sg-extservices - Kol Tregaskes
what timing. via Zee - http://beta.friendfeed.com/zee... - vijay
+100000000000 - Zee.
Zee, that is easily the highest score I've achieved on F> ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
There already sort of is this function. Just send your likes to Twitter. But yeah, might be cool to be able to customize the prefix for likes to Twitter, so you could use "Liked" or "RT" or whatever. Would need the option of including the @name, too. - Grey Drane
Grey, yep you can share your own posts to Twitter but it would be nice if you could RT anyone's tweet. - Kol Tregaskes
yeah, you really need to be able to include the @username of the person you're retweeting. Just isn't fair otherwise - Zee.
No, I hate the re-tweet. I've unfollowed everyone guilty of retweeting, - Richard A.
Just so I know, you want to be able to take a tweet from Twitter that has come into FriendFeed and push it back to Twitter with the original tweet and a prefix etc... So the person who sees the RT wouldn't have to come to FriendFeed? Is that right? - Johnny
Kol: You can share others' FF posts to Twitter, too, by sending your "likes" to Twitter, but like I and others have said, it would be better if the @name (when available, since not all FFers will have Twitter accounts) was included in the tweet that gets generated. - Grey Drane
Grey, ah OK. - Kol Tregaskes
Bump. - Kol Tregaskes
A visitor!
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Awww, how cute. Georgia is so cute. She's growing up really fast, Johnny. :) - Molly Song ;)
Josiah: It's Georgia and his Johnny! - Melly
Dave Winer
Scripting News: Proposal: A new kind of blog comment system. http://scripting.com/stories...
Ability to select from a variety of comment systems to best suit the post. pstp ref smedia and the intentions of the poster. - Thomas Page
The one day thing ignores the time dimension of the internet as links flow through various social networks. Dave is special in the sense that people pay attention to what he says so a day may work. For the rest of us we get noticed here and there which kicks off waves of more noticing, which die down and kick back up as the weather changes. Simply getting comments is the problem. - Todd Hoff
Michael Fidler
These are all done in Pencil.
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Impressive - M F
Great work! - Neya
I'm sorry but this is unbelievable:) I'll give credit to the artist upon more convincing proof! The photogenic look of the tiger and lion really helps the artist's case though:) - Roney Smith
I'm with Roney... I find this hard to believe... or maybe I'm just jealous that I can't even get stick people right! - Jasmin Smith
I don't believe it. Too amazing. - Rahsheen
I'm with Rah - Shey
Only the lion looks like its drawn - embee
The bear and rhino look drawn, too. - Chris Charabaruk
very very talented. Wow they look like B&W pics you know photography. - Gabriella Sannino
These are amazing, were they done by you? - Angelo Rodrigues
Nice photographs - Rafael Robayna
@michael, if they weren't drawn by you, at least tell us who the artist is and the link - Zulkarnain K.
Link please? - Jason Wehmhoener
wow - Carolyn Chan
being slightly skeptical, i'm going to say these were done with pencil by a printer of some sorts... #justsayin - No Name
they're beautiful, but skeptical as well - Jennifer Van Grove
Would need to see higher quality images to see if they are pencil or not - too many jpg artifacts to tell. - Luke Addison from twhirl
Stupefied. - Parth Awasthi
Wow!! Yeah it's pretty amazing what they can draw with a pencil nowadays, deviantART has lots of great pencil art. - Kol Tregaskes
Michael, who is the artist? - Kol Tregaskes
wow, cool! - Sarah Perez
I'm really happy everyone liked these. They're my most liked entry to date, Thanks! There also seems to be some question about whether these are actually Pencil Drawings.I can assure you that they are.When I get home, I should have the links. I have more drawings, too. - Michael Fidler from fftogo
Wow, these are stunning!! - Susan Beebe
Yes, especially the tiger. Reminds me of that "Tiger, tiger burning bright." - Melanie Reed
Alright, Mike - I believe you. These are awesome. Good job! - No Name
HOLY CRAP. - Chieze Okoye
no way! - Mister Groonk
Thanks Enrique, I'll post some more soon. They are a little more obvious than these ones. As Luke points out; without being able to look closely it's impossible to tell. He's right; but up close it's more obvious. I'll upload the originals to Picasa later, and then you'll be able to zoom in with any photo viewer and see for yourselves. I can't believe how many people liked these. A few people have reposted them already. Thanks! - Michael Fidler
Absolutely awesome, Michael. You are extremely talented. Everyone should repost these pix and help to make you famous. You should be doing this full time - you obviously have some passion for this. Bravo. - Chris Loft
These are really beautiful, Michael. Do you sell them? - Shannon Jiménez
Chris, I would love to say they're mine, but it's not true. I've had them for a while, but I'll find the artists names. It will just require a little backtracking. Besides, they deserve the credit; all I did was find them:-) - Michael Fidler
Cut the bullshit! :) Photos are very good. - Burçak Çubukçu
I draw alot in pencil, but they are amazing, the best for me is the girl, that is the most photo-like one. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
I agree Rob, the girl is amazing. My favorite by far! Wait until you see it close up! It's really had to tell, even up close! - Michael Fidler
Burçak Çubukçu If these were photographs, they would be very good. As Pencil Drawings,(which they are), they're amazing. - Michael Fidler
Wow, amazingly realistic - Threepwood
@Michael Fidler did you draw them? How can you so sure? - Burçak Çubukçu
dont look like it - Prakash
@ Michael Fidler don't push so hard :) - Burçak Çubukçu
@Burçak Çubukçu I can't tell if your serious now or just kidding around. I hope your just having fun! If you are serious, I've never given you a reason to question my integrity, nor do I ever intend to. However, the second set is up now, so judge them for yourself, but don't judge me! http://ff.im/1BJh5 BTW, I messed up and reposted the shot of the women again. Oh well. Hope you like them:-) - Michael Fidler
@Michael: try deviantART, not Picasa, to submit your artworks - Zulkarnain K.
WOW "I can't believe it's in pencil" - sofarsoShawn
LouCypher, I know it well, but I don't see why I would want to do that. I hope everyone knows by now that they're not mine? I'm sorry, but I can't say it any clearer than that. - Michael Fidler
nah, i don't believe it is done in pencil. i am sure it is photoshopped :) - hasin hayder
These would be great even for photos. - Ronald S
i'm not able to comprehend - Varun Shenoy
I'm finding this both interesting and humorous at the same time. There's a separate message board where this post is being discussed and it has another forty comments on it already. I think its great how this has created some lively discussion, considering that when I posted this I was doubtful if anyone would even like it. When I went to sleep last night there was only had 3 or 4 likes... more... - Michael Fidler
Very interesting. I would like to see them up close and in person...just to make sure. Bill said it's real and possible. Your 2nd set of picts look like pencil. Nice work in finding these! - LaFern Cusack
Kol, I can't thank you enough! Kol found another post which helps to prove that these are done in pencil. I had my doubts about a few of them because I collected them from several different sites over time, but the site Kol found has done a great job pulling together an impressive collection of these drawings and more. Take a look - http://www.flickzzz.com/2009... - Michael Fidler
Actually there are more than what this site shows. There's an entire set with the cats(little cats), which I have, and there's a new portrait set. - Michael Fidler
Found your post here, Michael. :-) I tried my best to find the artists. - Kol Tregaskes
Amazing and very very very good.... Very impressive ... - Linda Zeek-Bobinski
fake. http://lenscratch.blogspot.com/2009... Even if your not claiming to be the artist, these are photographs, well except the woman, thats pencil - james foor
Yeah we know, thanks though, James. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Excellent pictures - how long did it take you to scan the photographs into Photoshop and then edit them? The only pencil that has come into contact with these "drawings" is the Photoshop pencil. A tip - stop trying to fool people into thinking you are a "real" artist, because all you are doing is cheapening proper artist's works whom have spent hours creating real pictures as opposed to a few minutes on a graphics editing package. - The Wimp
A bell does ring here. And I am remembering why I was so attracted to the tiger...and the lion for that matter. These are exact replicas of prints I had in our bedroom when I lived in Dallas. I had bought the prints (in color) at a department store, - Melanie Reed
Actually, I have learned quite a bit about these drawing since I made this post. Not only have I discovered all of the artists, but I've learned more about how they are created. They are always copied from a photograph or painting, but usually a photograph. It is extremely time consuming and detail orientated work. There are many other artists besides the ones featured here who practice... more... - Michael Fidler
Most of them have portfolio's on deviantart.com and their work is truly amazing even if they are copies of other artists work. I suppose with this level of detail, they have to start with something. Nevertheless, I'm still in awe of their talent. Melanie, the animal prints you refer to are from a very well renowned photographer. The originals are B&W I'll look it up later but I do have... more... - Michael Fidler
wow; they're unbelieavably beautiful. - liladreams
Has anyone ever corrected the record and pointed out, with the exception of the Charlize Theron drawing, that these are indeed photos by Alexander Von Reiswitz? - erik weisz
Erik, thank you for bringing this up again, but I think I already mentioned something about this in my prior comment. However, since it appears that you only signed up to friendfeed to leave a single comment, (ok, why?) I will try to summarize what I wrote previously. In brief, I learned after doing a little research that all photo-realistic drawings like the ones that I shared here,... more... - Michael Fidler
Awesome - الکامپ
I can assure you that what are claimed to be drawings of animals, in your post here, are photos. I used a website to that allows you to do an comparison of the Von Reiswitz photos and the images you have posted here. There are no differences. Every hair matches up. As a pencil artist myself I can tell you that it's pretty much impossible to get that kind of accuracy and have it look... more... - erik weisz
but... it has to be real, i saw it on the internet - Iphigenie
Eric, it doesn't matter to me if you just joined, and I apologize if I made you think otherwise. If you have any questions regarding friendfeed, please feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them. At this point, I would be happy if we could find someone who is an image analysis expert, and finally point this thing to rest. Every time that I look into this, all I find is a... more... - Michael Fidler
the site spammed above must all be done in pencil too, right, thats why you posted it? - Iphigenie
I'm amazed that people are still posting these photographs of animals and calling them pencil drawings. This is at least the third case I can remember (and there are probably more) of this happening. The myth about them being drawings was debunked long ago. It's also funny that whenever they get posted the person posting them doesn't make it clear that they aren't the artist, exactly as you have done. - canadianmaple09
@canadianmaple09 I posted these back in March, 2009 when I was beginning to use FF regularly. I ran them through TinEye hoping to find their source, but it returned no results. When I ran through again yesterday, TinEye returned over four pages of results. If I had it to do over again, would I? Yes - Michael Fidler
The people you refer do don't join "just to slam" someone, they are concerned members of the online art community that want to see real art appreciated and fake art or photos being passed off as drawings revealed for what they really are. Artists such as Brian Duey, Armin Mersmann, Paul Lung, Zindy Nielsen,and many others do not receive the appreciation they deserve because of scams like this. - canadianmaple09
canadianmaple09, the worthiness of your motives notwithstanding (and they are worthy, definitely) you could definitely have approached Michael completely differently by say, giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than attacking in a highly accusatory tone. - Chieze Okoye
When you've seen these same pictures posted multiple times by people that just find them on the internet and claim they are pencil drawings, when it has already been established on multiple occasions that they are not, the "benefit of the doubt" approach seems a little too generous. People post these images and claim they're drawings to get views for their own site or blog or page or whatever it is they post it on. It's wrong and it needs to be stopped. - canadianmaple09
I can understand that, but you should also keep in mind that everyone is not as well-versed in the issue as you are. All I'm saying is that you would probably be more effective in this case if you weren't setting this up as a us-vs.-them, "must destroy with the validity my argument!" attitude when talking to a guy who's been actively having a discussion on the issue in what seems to me (having been around when he first posted the images and the follow up thread and what not) to be good faith. - Chieze Okoye
Look at his first comment here. People clearly thought he drew them. He doesn't set the record straight. He also claims that they "are actually pencil drawings" and that "I have more drawings too." Later he claims that you need to look at them closer to see they are drawings and that he will "post the originals". Once again, this makes it sound like they are his. This follows the same... more... - canadianmaple09
Greg and Chieze, thanks for your support. I really appreciate it. @canadianmaoles09, for what it’s worth, I share your concerns about giving proper attribution when sharing also. However, I admit that I'm more conscious of it now than I was at the time of this post. Nevertheless, I have never taken credit for anybody's work here other than my own! - Michael Fidler
BTW, I didn't realize it before, but I just noticed that you're new here too. I hope you like it so far and spend more time here. IMO, friendfeed is still the best thing around! - Michael Fidler
I would probably qualify as an image analysis expert, but there's no way to prove that online. One thing we can do is look at color. Even though the images are black and white,they're actually RGB images, meaning they contain cyan magenta and yellow. If you look at the image of the rhino you have posted then look at the photo of the rhino at the photographer's site you can see they both... more... - erik weisz
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Now people are just playing with me. STOP IT. - Derrick
BUMP. - Derrick
Allen Stern
reports are coming in from midtown manhattan that an event location has ambulances on the way - it appears that some attendees at a conference have passed out due to "lack of twt" - we believe the twt is actually twitter and that they couldnt send messages to the twitter network. i am en route to the scene and will have word once i arrive - note...
OMG, how funny. - Francine Hardaway
LMAO - Linda Zuidema
Hehe! Haven't seen anyone passout yet but have seen some shaking. - Robert Scoble
Very Funny :) - Dilip Dand
Really funny, I'm still laughing - Karina Velazquez
Robert - the shakes are the first sign - please get those people directly into Facebook.. it won't fix the shaking but will slow the effects. They could also go to the daily "twitter is down" posts by parislemon - that too will help a little. Overall there is no cure. oh wait there is :) - Allen Stern
Whatever you do, DON'T TELL THEM ABOUT FRIENDFEED! - Jesse Stay
jesse - these people are the type who just push the button (like on lost) without knowing what happens if they dont. - Allen Stern
Allen, that's why I definitely don't want them to learn about FriendFeed! - Jesse Stay
jesse i should do a blogger king tiny chat during this time :) - Allen Stern
Allen, yes, you should - get on that, will you? We need something to entertain us right now! - Jesse Stay
twitter withdrawl session now open - http://tinychat.com/twitter... - Allen Stern
"these people are the type who just push the button (like on lost) without knowing what happens if they dont." <---- I'm nominating this for a ffebby award, best analogy in a comment category. - Micah
It is back up. So this should revive the attendees :) - Dilip Dand
I'm on it - Jesse Stay
very funny i like it keep it up http://www.forextrading-online.de/ - rockymeet
Robert Scoble
Just was talking to http://www.friendfeed.com/garin and we came to the conclusion that if you are going to comment on a friendfeed item you should either be first or last. Why? They always are visible. So, here's your chance! :-)
zaloom! - Kevin Johnson
If we are really cool we'll get on this list http://friendfeed.com/search... - Robert Scoble
Kevin is first, who will be last? I just want to be the penultimate commenter! - Robert Scoble
first and last words are all that matter on the FF. - rob
Okay. Everyone stop NOW! - Kevin Sablan
great. now FF is going to be filled up with those annoying ass people that comment "FIRST!" on everything. - No Name
Aw crap, I could sit here all night waiting to be last, so may as well comment now. - Sharon McPherson
8th! - rob
Any worthy FF thread will engage interested parties enough to read most of the comments. - iTad
Do I get bonus points if I end up being the thread killer? - Kevin Johnson
Kevin you could always delete your 1st comment. :) - rob
Kevin! Yes, and we're having a great time watching this. It will get old fast, but for now it's really fun! - Robert Scoble
Hey Enrique.. that would suck. Oh... LAST! Oh Jeff... Last. - Ted Bradford II
That's why these threads just go on and on and on... people just want to have the last word. ;-P - Chris Heath
Chris: I don't want the last word. I want the penultimate word. :-) - Robert Scoble
Nope, I like the riffng of the conversation. Jump in anywhere. Enjoy the free flow of ideas and worry not about being seen by the scanners. Those who take the time to expand the thread have such a richer experience. - michael sean wright
if i wasn't so tired i'd play that out Chris (as my last post was truly in jest). Late here in East TN. Gonna go tip a few cows and call it a day. - Ted Bradford II
Ted: so was mine ... didn't you catch the winky tongue? (i'm on cape fear so i'm soon to bed as well) - Chris Heath
Good point, unless you're actually using the RT chat aspect of FriendFeed, I guess... - Andy Werner
Chris- I did, but needed a segue into a cow tipping joke... cause I've never done so before. I do know this, tomorrow I will use the word 'penultimate' and dazzle family and friends. Hope alls quiet on the Cape bro. These storms have been a biotch. Annnnnnd Jeff just trumped us all. Tell him what he's won Enrique... nite all. - Ted Bradford II
Second to last is always visible on my screen. :) - Bwana ☠
Clever way to get the most commented upon comment on FF ever.... - Barak B
Ted, if you haven't dozed off- i'll have you know that the coastal winds tend to keep a lot of the storm systems at bay- if you're close enough to the water - a mile or 5 inland can make a big difference some days - and spot t/storms can be localized around here big time - for instance yesterday it rained (for a short period) at my house while i was at work 5 miles away getting no rain - only knew cuz the ground was wet when i went home for lunch... ok - it's really time for sleep now - g'nite FriendFeed - Chris Heath
so in other words, last is not least? - Julie Bovee Hill
Barak: check out this idea for a long thread (still nowhere near the longest on friendfeed, but the idea.. ) http://friendfeed.com/ajbatac... - Chris Heath
Chris: Yes, that is a good one too. This is better though and I predict with end up with more comments. - Barak B
Yay! I am last as of now :) - Amit Nangare
lets see how long this lasts for! :) - Paul Kinlan
Another one of these? From Scoble this time? Wow. BTW, last post. - Chris Charabaruk
I will be the penultimate commenter! - Garin Kilpatrick
That way I can be the ultimate one. - Chris Charabaruk
Nope. - Barak B
friendfeed should allow for "liking" comments so top comments can be the ones shown, no matter the chronology. And allow the users to watch comments by likes, threaded or chronologically. - Charbax
A blatant attempt at gaming the FriendFeed statistics for no real useful purpose... Oooh, can I be last, Please Please!!! - Peter Kelley
No, Peter, you may not be last. That's my position. - Chris Charabaruk
Last Post!!! - Richard Hurt
well, the last comment is always changing, isn't this like having your 5 nanoseconds of glory? - Liviu Lica
This thread is now closed. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
No, NOW it's closed. - Chris Charabaruk
Or is it? :) - Liviu Lica
Perhaps now... - Garin Kilpatrick
thats me! :) - Roshan Ramachandran
based on what you say, it easier to simply click like :-) - Orli Yakuel
"Comment on a friendfeed item"? which one? ;) - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Are trying to go for the longest comment thread again? - Amit Morson
Amit: no, most times one post gets hidden. - Robert Scoble
In a different timezone you can have the advantage :) - Rene de Vries
Okay, people, nothing to see here. Just walk on. This is the last comment. It's all clear now. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
What if you write backwards? Does that help? - Kieran Daly
It would be nice if we could pick the number of comments shown at the top and bottom, I'd like to see the first 3 and last 3 for example. - Kol Tregaskes
I usually read all the comments of something I'm interested in. I don't just read the top and bottom ones so I don't care where I come in. I comment on what I want to because I want to say something. It's nice if the original poster reads/responds to it, but not absolutely necessary. Most of the time the most fun/interaction comes from other commenters. - Molly
Sounds like an online auction...Is there any deadline? Then I'll prepare my winning speech 17,3 sec beforehand. - Zack Brandit
I'm not falling for your postbait, Scoble! Oh wait...crap. - That's So CAJ!
Cow tipping - That's Funny - Brent - Yes I am
Good point. - Jack Boyle
I feel sorry for the cows. And the grass. I am weakhearted I guess. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
I guess I misunderstood. You were talking about that fat waittress in Crazy Mick's Breakaway Cafe, weren't you? - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Fine, I'm in - Don Bonaddio
no - mjc
Yeah, you were last. Congrats. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
In ur timezone, stealin ur commentz, kthxbye :) - Peter Kelley
ok, I'll hold on to last place for visablity! - PaulJohnson
I was going to add something witty, but i got nothing. sorry.... - Mike Nencetti
No problem. Participating is more important than winning, we say in the Netherlands. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
It's the long-tail of real-time - zeroinfluencer
Excellent point David ;) - Don Bonaddio
Being last has one drawback. It makes you a thread-killer. I'm not sure some of us like being that. Sometimes I'd rather see the discussion keep going. - George Hall (Australia)
Do like the suggestion made earlier that there should be bonus points for being the thread-killer... - George Hall (Australia)
but who wants to be last? - mcvictor
Ok Robert, please close this thread now. ;) - Meryn Stol
I disagree, and I'll tell you why below... - FFing Enigma
We already did this thread, I'll post the link right after Tina's rebuttal - Rahsheen
You don't really believe that Robert. Content is key! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
But if I post last, I'm first in the thread on Twhirl! Double win! ;-) - Julie Barrett from twhirl
amazing - David Gross from email
Always happy to be last .... but it probably won't last :) - Charlie Anzman
llllllaaaaasssssstttttt - mjc
You'd be right Charlie :P - Jay
And there is nothing I hate more than reading that first comment that childishly claims "First!" and nothing more. "Last!" (until the next comment comes along) - Jim Espinoza
By the way, I'm the last commenter in a very participated thread recently started by Robert Scoble, but that didn't gain me almost any new follower. I'm fine with this though, as I'd find silly being advantaged for being the last commenter ;-) - Opensource Obscure
Agreed :) - Fabian De Simone
How do I stick my comment to the bottom so that it will always be last? :) - Jeff Sayre
How long can this go on? - Tom Landini
Last! ...for now - Scott
So this if why Scoble goes nuts over realtime feeds - he can be the first to comment. - Tom Landini
Well, every comment gets to be last for at least a couple of seconds. Or fractions of a second with RT. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
If you want to understand the power of last you need to read this thread http://friendfeed.com/mikenay... - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
"There is no final solution. There is no last word.” ~ Carlos Fuentes - Sharon McPherson
First is way better, because the last post can always change :) - Tim McDougall
Easy to be first, harder to be last. Kind of like trying to win a silent auction, you always have to go back - Lorraine Ball
but what if it took me a while to find the discussion, and i still want to be last? ;-) - Courtney Engle
Firs...Last. - Rob
@Rob - in yo' face! - JoEllen
The one who will comment after me is so stupid I would'nt like to be him :P - stanjourdan
Yoink! - Zach Lytwyn
112 comments - but there can never be last comment, can there? Unless there is a FF limit on the number of comments - Paul, is there a limit? - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
The current last comment is the next penultimate comment. - Brian Sullivan
Not everyone is on here to market themselves to infinity. Why people, other than people who actually make money off of exposure, insist on wanting the most friends on ff/fb/ms/tt is beyond me. Not everyone is a Scobilite! Yes I did just make that word up... where do I copyright it? lol - Jason Williams
Didn't someone blog about tinyurl's dominance a while back - about how they have too much power. Might have been Gillmor or Winer - Bwana ☠
Winer. I don't think they have too much power - Steve Gillmor
I'm going for last. - Derek Markham
I've got last:-) - Francine Hardaway
instahide - Edward Zwart
How can we compete against Robert - Peter Meng
Peter: why compete? Just come in last! :-) - Robert Scoble
Just checking. I heard this thread was closed, so I wondered if commenting still works. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
wow that's pretty rad :-) - Patphelan
@Jeff, it's not spam if you opt in ;-) - Kevin Johnson
wonder what the value of posting on page length increments are... as people page down your comment is visible ;) - offbeatmammal
Jeff: do you still get email if you hide a thread? I bet you do. That sucks. Now I know why I don't turn on email notifications. - Robert Scoble
There is no last. - Mobius Loop - Robert Couture
to infinity and beyond - Jonathan Grimes
@Jeff - same here - noworries - Kevin Johnson
- Rob
This. Will. Never. End. - Michael Forian
Pay me $10 and I'll delete this thread. (Future friendfeed monetization technique). Sigh. - Robert Scoble
Your comment is always the last! look at mine :) - Luis Benavides
Welcome to the neverending thread :) - Garin Kilpatrick
Garin: I'll delete it before it ends. :-) - Robert Scoble
Robert: That would be a shame. You'd be up $10 at least though :) - Garin Kilpatrick
The last shall be last - Peter Meng
There can be only one. - Kevin Johnson
I seem to be last on many of Steve Gillmor's posts @techcrunchit, the kiss of death to many a conversation. I should be so lucky here. - Aron Michalski from fftogo
Yes, you should be so lucky :p - Jesse Newhart
I'm going to change my FriendFeed ID to "145 more comments" - Mark Traphagen
Getting a piece of the pie... :) - Jan Ole Peek
I've often found myself to have the last comment. It hasn't benefited me yet that I've noticed...let's try that again. - Mike Lewis
first is forever....last is a very transient honor indeed. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
and being both is probably meaningless, but I'm still going to claim it - Kevin Johnson
Do others ever get more than 2 comments on their posts? :) - Cameron
Doing it!! www.radarla.com - Drew Lucas
So, if you are last and then someone comes behind you, should you re-comment to be last again? - T.S. Elliott
Probably so T.S. but it won't last long ;) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Sorry Rob:-) - Michael Fidler
As a fine-art platform, as a painting, do you think anyone would be interested in a full-screen image feed animated by Judith Supine? http://www.flickr.com/photos... - stephen harlow
He who comments last... - Abbas Haider Ali
comments as: - Kevin Johnson
Tag- Im it - Ryan Gerritsen
not anymore you're not ;) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
zaloom! - Kevin Johnson
for one moment I could imagine that every comment was Kevin Johnson and his "zaloom!" - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
ANd so I do and then another and another :) Fun huh. - Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
not really... but hey... whatever - Chris Heath
So to comment or to like a FriendFeed item is to promote it.. and to promote the promoter. Great great great! - Thierry R. Andriamirado
173rd!! - Mark Traphagen
Controlled noise... - Joe Dawson
Indeed it is official :) But not for long let me bask in it's glory for a moment hahaha. - Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
It was fun while it lasted. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Okay, Thanks. It was taking too much of my time anyway. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Nicholas: Except this thread is far more epic :) - Garin Kilpatrick
back again...to claim last place! - Zach Lytwyn
Good for you Zach! - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Cannot. Let. This. End. - Robert Couture
Have. To. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
hit hit hit - Hans Mestrum
Kol: Cool idea, it would be neat to be able to choose how many of the first and last comments were visible. - Garin Kilpatrick
I like most anything distilled...information, bait...(distilled bait...is that like the worm at the bottom of the mezcal?) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The difference would be that in this case the worm will stay on the bottom. No matter what. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
I am not quite sure about that. But willing to accept it. (Wait! You just called me a worm? The most underrated but valuable animal on the planet, that brings us fertile ground and eats dead stuff? It is a nice compliment, but might be a bit much). - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Yesterday somebody asked: 'if you pass the number two in a race, which place are you in?' and I answered wrong. Passing the last one in this race will be hard... - Ruud van Wijngaarden
The last comment shall be mine! :) - Garin Kilpatrick
Woot, last comment. ;) - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Mmmm. I always hoped I would be last. - Ruud van Wijngaarden from email
Mmmm. I always hoped I would be last. - Ruud van Wijngaarden from email
I think it is hard to be first and even harder to be last.. just look at this thread.. http://ff.im/1hqgl - David Gross
Last comment? - Jeff P. Henderson
you mean Twitter Gar1n? You were talking on TWITTER WEREN'T YOU! LIAR "friendfeeed Garin" pfttttt still the same bi-polar - sofarsoShawn
Interesting comment, SFSS, very interesting indeed. So interesting, in fact, that I think that nothing further needs to be added to this thread. Ever. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
אתם כל כך מלא חרא, אבל זו בעיה שלך, לא שלי :-) - David Gross from email
actually i don't know how not to be the last commenter :) - İ. Emre Kutlu
Me too.. - David Gross from email
If only I could puncture the depths of Scoble's scratch-the-surface brain fart, techno-vangelizing, then I'd actually care WHOLE HEARTEDLY about this meaningfully retarded thread. - sofarsoShawn
The only way this thread can be made even more ridiculous and anachronistic is to move it to identi.ca.. Myspace would work, too. - Tal Shafik
Interesting ;) - Alex
And since you can't guarantee being last unless you are the originator of the thread or can convince the originator to end comments (but since Robert is AWOL that is unlikely) -- you better be first. ;-) - Brian Sullivan
Okay, admittedly being the last IS visible...but who REALLY wants to be the thread-killer? - George Hall (Australia)
I think I remember commenting on one of those threads...and it's STILL going???? - George Hall (Australia)
Hey, this one's from May... it's about to hit its own anniversary! - Chris Heath
I'm surprised this only has a little over 200 comments. - Jason Williams
201 - David Gross
don't be so sure about that... there's lots of people who like to be thread killers or last... just wait and watch - Chris Heath
Sage words Robert - Sage words indeed! - PaulJohnson
See??? I told you! - Chris Heath
It doesn't seem to work in the long term. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Bret Taylor
Experimental Facebook Feature Shows Better Friend Suggestions - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Did you guys work on this? It's great! - Marshall Kirkpatrick
Congratulations! - Ben Darnell
Yep, this is something Jim, Tudor, Sanjeev, and I worked on - really fun to see it go live. Ben Darnell actually did a lot of work on it before he left for Brizzly, too :) - Bret Taylor
Congrats Bret and team! - AJ Batac
Congrats, guys! - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Nice! - Anne Bouey
This may explain some of the unexplained friend requests I've received lately. Although in at least one case, I didn't see any mutual connections at all, and I didn't know the person, so I passed on the connection (assumed it was spam or such). - Ken Gidley
Very nice :) - Mike Cassidy
Very nice to hear about what the FF team is working on and releasing on FB. Thanks for the update Bret. - Mark Krynsky
Now if you could just do something about FB's scam ads. Yesterday one promised a free iPad if I would just test it. Had Jobs' picture on it. They had my age(from FB?) so they could target it. I clicked through for laughs. Asks for email and says no Apple affiliation. Also said "Participation Required" so either I get locked in to a $10/month scam or they sell data off a questionnaire and I probably never see an iPad. It's the Internet but FB ads really degrade the trust and FB needs trust. - Ed Millard
Happy to know that FriendFeed's Team is working on Facebook's 'Friend Suggestions'. Lucky FB ;) - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Cool - thanks for the better experience :) - Susan Beebe
Does this mean it will also be available via the API? :-) - Jesse Stay
Congrats! This sounds like it was probably a lot of fun to work on. I clustered my Facebook friends recently and was amused to see categories like mathematicians, computational biologists, people I know from Google, people I met through my sister--all falling out of just the graph information alone. - Ruchira S. Datta
Nice feature. I have yet to add a new friend through this suggestion but can see it's potential for sure. - TradersLog
Steven Perez
Once a minor god in an ancient, icebound pantheon of gods long since forgotten, Rodfather was the god responsible for inspiring the Asian tribes in what is now Siberia to migrate across the great ice sheet into what is now known as North America. Once the people found new home and spread out, Rodfather was instrumental in establishing the 500 Nations of the Native American peoples. His purpose on this world concluded, Rodfather set about exploring new dimensions of existence, eventually setting on the Astral Plane, fighting the likes of the Shadow King and Proteus and maintaining a balance of light and dark among the higher races. - Steven Perez
Right off the top of my head. :D - Steven Perez
Haha WTF. DYSP!! - Rodfather
Bump. - Steven Perez
You forgot to mention how he defied the Supreme Titan Tribunal and risked losing his immortality to bestow upon mankind the gift of karaoke. Because he loved us. - MiniMage
I sure did! - Rodfather
This makes me almost wish I weren't already subbed to Rodfather, because this is very convincing. - Lo
++Lo 8) - Zu from AOD
Paul Buchheit
Who are these people that get all defensive about Microsoft? Is there a group of Microsoft fanboys out there somewhere watching for negative remarks so that they can leave angry comments? I've seen this on other blogs too. Why do they care so much?
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probably stockholders. - Mike Nencetti
It's amazing what you can do with Mechanical Turk :-) - Todd Hoff
I tend to find Microsoft largely irrelevant in many areas of my life. I have one Windows machine, with o Microsoft software except windows itself. The rest are all Linux. - Ian May
You've obviously never been to a PDC. Everyone in the valley underestimates the immense size of the MS ecosystem. - Joe Beda from iPhone
I don't doubt that Microsoft is still huge, I just don't think they are changing the world anymore in the way that Google or Apple are. - Paul Buchheit
O really? Who are the journalists/bloggers who feel that writing MS-bashing posts for their own sake counts as useful output? Every year hordes of pundits pronounce MS irrelevant, only to be proven wrong the next year. The people who reply to those threads are those who are active users of MS products and find them the best fit for their needs. That includes me. I don't think every MS... more... - LANjackal
LANjackal. If I'm asked, I don't so much bash Microsoft, but point people to other options such as OpenOffice and Linux, if it's suitable for them. Many people use MS products simply because they know of no alternatives. - Ian May
LANjackal, I don't think anyone disputes that Microsoft will keep producing Windows and Office, but that doesn't count as changing the world. If they introduced something on the scale of the iPhone (in terms of new product with market impact), that would count. - Paul Buchheit
There are Microsoft fanboys? I must always just see the Apple and Linux fanboys. - Rob H.
There's a difference between pointing to alternatives and calling a company irrelevant. MS is the only company that can do an end-to-end drop in solution that includes a private cloud, collaboration (Sharepoint), supercomputing, servers, etc. They're the GE of the tech world. Sure, GE doesn't make exciting headlines ... but anyone who says they "don't matter" is simply insane. Ditto MS. Relevancy and making headlines are NOT the same thing. - LANjackal from IM
The computers in my house are all running Windows. The computers at my workplace are also. Nearly all the customer art we get is produced on the customers's Windows computers. Microsoft seems pretty important to my life. It helps put the bread on the table, it doesn't need to be doing anything new. If Google and Apple both went down the tubes what would the consequences be? People would... more... - Sue - Friendfeed is best
So is the answer that these are Microsoft developers who feel slighted by the notion that Microsoft is irrelevant? - Paul Buchheit
Ummm no Paul. I don't know where you're getting that from and I really don't know why you're trolling your own thread, but hey be my guest - LANjackal from IM
They're users like myself. Not developers. - LANjackal from IM
LANjackal, my question is why they have such strong feelings, not why do they disagree with me. - Paul Buchheit
Microsoft isn't changing the world? Have you used a 360 at all? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It would probably be reasonable to say that Microsoft has considerable influence - but isn't really at the forefront of most web-based tech anymore. But I know a few Wintards here in Seattle and they're not a pretty bunch (*ZING*) (I would probably count as a "Googtard" for the record) - Jeffrey Canton
I think you need to qualify how MS is irrelevant. Because I don't see it either. - Gabe
Probably because we don't like people calling a good company whose products we rely on daily for serious stuff being called irrelevant? Don't you think some people out there might find that offensive? What if you had a BMW and I said BMW as a company was useless? Isn't there a slight chance you might be riled by that? - LANjackal from IM
No, I would not be offended LANjackal. I think it's fair to say that the American car companies are irrelevant for example, which is unfortunate. My possibly unfair definition of relevance is that they are driving change in the market. Continuing to produce the same thing you've been making for 10 or more years doesn't count. - Paul Buchheit
If Surface ever becomes a real product that real people use that would count as relevance Danny, but my prediction is that it won't. You may be right about the Xbox -- I don't know anything about games. - Paul Buchheit
I think its crazy to get offended for a publicly traded company, or any other non-human entity, though. - Jeffrey Canton
Yeah, it's the offense part that amuses me. Disagreement is totally reasonable :) - Paul Buchheit
As an end user I mostly can't justify the price of MS products when I can use something else that is free, as in the case of Office. OpenOffice does what I need; reads/writes the MS formats, and isn't a few hundred bucks to buy. For email, I use Gmail, and Google Calender, on my ALL my computers (regardless of OS), and on my Blackberry too. No need to sync anything as it's all in the cloud. - Ian May
So yes, I would miss Google if they disappeared overnight, but I wouldn't miss Microsoft. - Ian May
Paul, then you must get really amused by Apple fanboys. I know I do. - jbrotherlove
Paul: your definition of relevance is wrong. Period. By that definition only a handful of tech companies would be "relevant" despite the fact that many others supply major components that the handful rely on. I guess Cisco doesn't matter then, right? If they and their products vanished tomorrow we'd all be OK. Everyone in agreement? #sarcasm - LANjackal
I guess I just haven't upset the Apple fanboys yet. Apple sucks. - Paul Buchheit
I do think that Microsoft is doing new and innovative things. In some cases they just haven't done a great job of bringing them to market and executing (Surface, for example) but in others you just don't see it as you aren't part of the Microsoft world. For example, LINQ is very very cool but unless you use C# (talking to MS SQL server in ASP.net/IIS via Visual Studio) you probably just... more... - Joe Beda
LANjackal, which successful companies _are_ irrelevant? I'm getting at a factor that is different from success, because if all I wanted to talk about was profits or market cap, that's what I would reference. However, there is an independent factor which is essentially "market influence", and it's undeniable that some companies have more than others. - Paul Buchheit
That's a fair point Joe, and I think the fact that there is this growing non-microsoft world is part of what drives their "irrelevance". It would be really cool if they opened up C# and .Net, because by most accounts it's very nice (much better than Java), but nobody outside of the Microsoft ecosystem even considers it. - Paul Buchheit
I'd agree with that. I think that Microsoft is stuck into a classic innovator's dilemma. They are optimizing for their ecosystem and world and missing the fact that the world is shifting. However, I don't think the world is shifting as much (yet) as it appears from the perspective of the valley. In the hearts and minds of the average enterprise developer Microsoft is the only game in town. - Joe Beda
I think Microsoft advocates in general have less experience with non-MS systems than non-MS-centric tech types have with MS systems. If you don't know much about the alternatives to MS and if your income is tied to your tech knowledge - you probably should get busy and start up reading up about the things you don't know about. But it's a lot easier to just stick your head in the sand. That sounds a bit harsh. But I think it's accurate. - Douglas
BTW -- C# is pretty open -- there is the spec and Mono. But it is largely still born as no one trusts Microsoft and there is very little cross pollination across these worlds. - Joe Beda
Yeah, I'm not going to use the second-class version of it (Mono) and apparently neither is anyone else. - Paul Buchheit
Douglas: I have plenty of experience with non-MS systems, but aside from embedded systems I find them largely irrelevant. - Gabe
Gabe: Please explain - Douglas
I think ignorance of the other side cuts both ways. There are plenty of unix nerds that have no idea how *awesome* the Visual Studio development environment can be. There is a lot going on there -- some of it is much better than what is going on in the Unix/Mac world. But mostly it is just different. - Joe Beda
I do resent the comment that Mono is a 'second-class version' of .NET. We have some benefits over .NET, for instance, we are open source, and just like Linux was one day a second-class version of Unix, the day for Mono will come. For instance, anyone interested in .NET development on Mac, Linux, the iPhone, Android, the PS3 or the Wii have today only one option: Mono. If your business... more... - Miguel
Sorry Miguel. I'm sure Mono is really great, but I bet Microsoft's version is better. - Paul Buchheit
An example: several years ago I was working with a group of programmers on a project that was to be done in .Net. I suggested we use JQuery, which was pretty mainstream by then. No one else on the team had heard of it and one programmer even said "why would I want to use anything that didn't come from Microsoft?" A few months later Microsoft included JQuery in Visual Studio. It's not fun trying to get things done around that sort of attitude. - Douglas
Microsoft's version is better in many ways, and Mono's is better in many ways. We have no WPF, partial WCF and no WF, only now we are getting a copying/generational GC; But we have xplat GUI toolkits, an embeddable C# compiler, a C# REPL, SIMD extensions for AMD64 and X86, 64-bit arrays, full UNIX APIs, static compilation, we work on more platforms and much more. My point is: Mono is not your enemy, Mono is your ally. Use it when it makes sense as another tool in the box. - Miguel
Douglas: I've used and supported Macs since System 6 and various Unix systems since the mid-90's, and I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like there's anything I can do on those systems that I can't do on Windows. - Gabe
Microsoft is just another American software company, and I feel is unfairly targeted at for things like bundling IE with Windows, etc. Of course you get ketchup with a pizza. If you dont like the ketchup, use some other ketchup. Oracle brings with it Java. Did anybody complain? - TrafficBug
Paul, I agree with Miguel. I don't see why MS having a better version is reason to disregard Mono. If I were writing Linux apps, I would choose Mono in a second. - Gabe
Ketchup with a pizza? - Sue - Friendfeed is best
Gabe: what about rsync, ssh, vim, grep, sed, perl, readline, etc... of course, you can install windows-equivalents of most of those but it's a bit of a pain and they never seem to work quite right. If you just want to pull bits of data out of a giant file on a Windows machine on a network you can still do it but you may have to drag folders around and write a DTS package to load it into SQL Server... I'm sure you're an exception but the average Windows-only person has no concept of the unix way to do that. - Douglas
Mono definitely isn't my enemy Miguel. Things like garbage collection are very tricky though, and I'd be surprised if you are able to keep up with Microsoft's version, I certainly hope you do though (especially after reading things like http://news.ycombinator.com/item...). Gabe, I simply called it "second class", which seems accurate if Microsoft's version is better. - Paul Buchheit
my fear with Mono is that, despite it being really cool, I don't trust Microsoft to keep a genuine commitment to open-source software. Unfair? Probably to Mono ... but Microsoft has kind of earned that over the years (wrt open-source software) Having said that, I should investigate Mono more, the brief exposure I had to it a few years ago was really positive. - Jeffrey Canton
BTW, what are the latest performance comparison numbers among the JVM, Mono, and CLR? A quick google didn't turn up anything credible looking. - Paul Buchheit
Right, doing a copying/generational/multithreaded debugger is hard. But .NET is not the competition in this case, Java is. Java having multiple implementations for research and production has been the platform where new GC technologies and ideas have been tested out in recent years. We can only hope that Mono's open source nature will lead to new ideas and innovations being tried out with .NET beyond the walls of Redmond (which has been the case in other areas). - Miguel
I worked at a Fortune 500 and there were a lot of fanboys here. The problem is folks invest in an MCSE or some sort of cert. It made them invested in Microsoft technology no matter how bad it was. Billable for Microsoft technology almost always cost double from what I could get from Open Source. - barce
I would put it on par with Linux fanboys, Apple fanboys, Google fanboys, open source fan boys, Nintendo fanboys, Playstation fanboys, laserdisc fanboys, Betamax fanboys, Datsun fanboys; in essence, only the ones you disagree will you will rub you the wrong way. - Eric - Final Countdown
But I also said that Linux was hopeless on the desktop and nobody showed up to insult me :) - Paul Buchheit
I'm not saying your wrong, just saying fanboys are fanboys and will argue to silliness about something like this. Don't look for rational thought from these kind of people. - Eric - Final Countdown
Yeah, I understand Eric. I'm just curious what motivates them. My suspicion is that the Linux fanboys are different from the Microsoft ones though. With Linux it's probably driven by a religious devotion whereas the Microsoft ones feel a threat to their livelihood perhaps. - Paul Buchheit
Paul, the only reason no one comment on your "Linux was hopeless on the desktop" statement is because at the bottom of our hearts we do not really want "our" OS to become mainstream ;-) - Tzury Bar Yochay
I think if your list showed on slashdot or Digg, you might get a few comments about Linux on the desktop, where stories about "I setup Linux for my grandma and she loves it" live. - Eric - Final Countdown
Have you tried Ubuntu lately? It's pretty cool. I find myself using my Ubuntu desktop machine more than my Mac laptop sometimes, completely unconscious preference. I understand that some of the other distros are also very nice; I just haven't gotten around to trying them. Of course if I were an Ubuntu fanboy I wouldn't say that :) - Douglas
It's already becoming mainstream Tzury -- it's just going by the name "Android". I wouldn't be surprised if it surpasses Windows installs in fact (once every cheapo phone in the world has Android on it). - Paul Buchheit
Nothing really comparing all 3 on the same conditions/platforms. But there are various mixed tests that you can use to extrapolate results. - Miguel
I have Ubuntu in a vm Douglas. It has the same stupid problems that have always plagued Linux -- things never quite work right. - Paul Buchheit
In case it's not clear by now, I'm happy to make fun of all platforms :) - Paul Buchheit
It is well deserved by all! - Eric - Final Countdown
Paul: Cool. I suspect that's what separates the angry fanboys from the not(angry fanboys). - Douglas
a concrete wall with barbed-wire at the top might be nice too, though. - Douglas
People just do get it do they? how sad this guy Derek must be inside... pathetic! geesh - Susan Beebe
Douglas: All those things are available on any platform I care to use. All are generally fairly easy to use on Windows if you want the precompiled binary, which is similar to other platforms -- on Linux it's hard to install something that isn't in a repository and on OSX it's hard to install something that isn't drag-n-drop installable. Of course, I also have no use for grep, sed, and... more... - Gabe
Paul - I think irrelevance comes down to what space you're talking - In an MS enterprise shop they're not. For those MSIEs, or even for the guy running a small computer repair shop, MS is their life blood, their livelihood depends on MS so they get rather rabid.If you're talking the web or consumer electronics space, they are somewhat irrelevant, or have been. At least haven't been... more... - PXLated
As a ceritfied MCSE: Security & Messaging, plus having installed, deployed and supported LOTS of servers and systems throughout the US to multiple customers in a wide variety of industries, I can assure you that most Microsoft "fanboys" are really scared. I invested a ton of money, time and energy back in the day with M$ and now I sit here with 7 levels of irrelevant technical... more... - Susan Beebe
Sadly, I've watched M$ go from relevant to pathetic. To their credit, Windows 7 is fantastic. Yet, I solely rely on cloud apps for my work. I hate MS Office - too clunky and old. M$ lost their mojo and i don't think it's coming back. So bottom line, folks that get all upset over that news are in denial. - Susan Beebe
Jeffrey Canton, would you trust that Microsoft could keep a genuine commitment to open-source software if Microsoft themselves committed to releasing a portable run-time for .NET rather than relegating this task to Mono and Mono developers. Microsoft, with all their capital (both financial and mindshare), is in the best position to create and maintain a fully cross-platform portable runtime, yet they don't. - Andy Bakun
That's my feeling Andy. If Microsoft really wanted it, they could make it happen and it would probably be awesome. - Paul Buchheit
And that's my issue with Mono: its very existence shows that Microsoft doesn't really care and was only throwing the open source community a bone by _allowing_ it to exist. I'm sure there are people at Microsoft that work closely with Mono developers (like Miguel has claimed in the past, I have no reason to doubt him), but .NET on anything other than Windows doesn't really fit into Microsoft The Corporation's plans. - Andy Bakun
Susan, are you Redhat (or other) certified also? I'm curious as to how someone who is certified with both MCSE and Linux view and value the knowledge they provide. I have heard that RH certifications are more long-term useful, but MCSE are so focused on specific products that they encourage an ecosystem of requiring more/additional certification as time goes on. I've seen the RHCE, and... more... - Andy Bakun
MS does some pretty cool tech demo videos (eg, surface). Maybe that makes them this decade's Xerox? Cool tech, but unable to deliver. - Nick Lothian
No I am not RHCE certified, but I sure wish I had pursued RHCE as much as I did my MCSE in 2006. I considered doing both, in retrospect, I should have. Both certs are well respected, but anything M$ is starting to be laughed at, sadly :( MCSE is very niche, yet it does also required strong networking and infrastructure knowledge. During my tests I was doing subnetting in my head, that's not product specific. (actually I used my hands - 8 fingers for octet counting!) - Susan Beebe
Surface is amazing, really awesome. I need to upload my iPhone video of that, thanks for the reminder :) - Susan Beebe
Gaping Void comic strip -- very apropro -- http://www.gapingvoid.com/microso... - Susan Beebe
@Andy - that's exactly the issue for me wrt Mono. They ultimately need people to buy Windows and Office, they're 2 main profit-engines - moving into the cloud the way Google wants to move (and the way things seem to be heading) undoes their momentum in the shrink-wrapped, downloadable software business and I can't see them undercutting that anytime soon. My guess has always been that... more... - Jeffrey Canton
@Nick - yeah, I was thinking IBM, but Xerox definitely works too :-) - Jeffrey Canton
I don't think that Microsoft opening any product (like .NET completely etc) will help them get respect from those that wouldn't use anything by Microsoft, anyway. Usually it goes like this: "1) Microsoft should open product/format X!1" **Microsoft makes X open, maybe even a standard**, "2) The specifications suck! They need more details!" **Microsoft revises specs, provides more... more... - Jemm
I am a software developer on the Microsoft platform. I've been working on the MS platform (DOS, Windows) for over 20 years. And yes, I do defend Microsoft in forums, because I find that many criticisms are exagerated or come from irrational hate and not from reason. - Dan Armano
I've seen a lot of this coming from Apple people - I'm sure it cuts both ways. (Personally, I don't care because neither company sends me any checks or anything.) - Ciaoenrico
Is Microsoft really so thin skinned that they need respect from people who don't want to use their products? It's not about gaining respect, it's about following through on your claims. - Andy Bakun
@Andy: "respect" was perhaps wrong choice of words by me. The point was that those demanding "openness" wouldn't switch anyway - no matter what Microsoft did or promised. I personally don't care whether something is completely open or a black box, as long there is a good way to integrate through a decent API through standard interfaces (SOAP, REST whatever). - Jemm
Then why does Microsoft do or promise anything? It has to obvious to them too that these people won't switch, so why bother catering to them? - Andy Bakun
@Andy: I've been wondering the same. Maybe there are some major audiences (like governments) that require at least some effort or because "opennes" looks good on paper. - Jemm
never underestimate stupidity - Nico Granelli
This is a good and relevant question. I look forward to a Paul Buchheit blog post about the dynamics of people becoming emotionally attached to software/services/platforms. - Bruce Lewis
If you make such a blog post, it would be an interesting read, I guess you can let us know as I for one can read it... - TrafficBug
Has fairness and balance become irrelevant? Our national news media has chosen hype over reality in their efforts to attract views. Perhaps Mr. Buchheit has made the same choice in his effort attract readers. I'm an Apple fanboy, but I haven't lost my grip on reality. I agree with the observations of LANjackal as to Microsoft's relevance. The vitriol here is beyond the bounds of rational discussion. Perhaps that's the nature of the internet. Sadly, it's becoming the nature of our culture. - Jimmy Walker
Jason Toney
No One on Da Corner Got Swagga like MisterJT - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
No One on Da Corner Got Swagga like MisterJT
No one on Da Corner, Mo. I'm sayin'. - Jason Toney
You've got more rhythm with that little neck move at the start than I do in my entire body *chuckle* - Michael W. May
nappy brown, indeed he did. Swagga! - Jason Toney
Oh snap, this cat is takin' the internets for the win, today :) I see ya, Jason :) - DYKC?™
Did P-Diddy start a meme? - Rahsheen
you haven't seen anything until you've seen this guy on the dancefloor. - Melissa
I honestly had no idea this would garner such a response. Sadly, the stupid song still hasn't left my head. It's playing there right now. - Jason Toney
jt goin hard - Cee Bee
holy crap - jason and i are on the front page of ffholic.com! ROFLMAO! - Melissa
ok..that's really weird. - Melissa
I think this is a video meme waiting to happen..."Rock Out at Your Desk" - Ms_Krista
original bumpity bump - Michael W. May
Bret Taylor
Happy holidays from the FriendFeed crew! - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
Thanks to Kevin for another great logo... - Bret Taylor
YAY! Snowmens! - Yolanda
Cool logo! :) - AJ Batac
I think they need scarves. They look cold. - Yolanda
Great logo! Simple and fun. - Brandon Titus
great :) çok sevdim bu logoyu :) - Burak Budak
Cool :D - Pedram
Kevin - that is an awesome logo!!!!! - Susan Beebe
+102 for Bill Waterson references in picture Kevin or words Sinterclas - Steve C, Team Marina
cute but what happened to festivus this year? - Laura Norvig
Merry Christmas to the FriendFeed team. You guys rock! FriendFeed reacts quickly and you're adding wonderful features all the time (Thanks soooo much for the "edit" feature.) - Mitchell Tsai
Happy Festivus! - ◄ani625Ξ ಠ_ಠ
Happy festive season to you all as well :) - Niki Costantini
Happy Holidays!!! - David Cook
love it~ - Sunny
Love!!! - Bee
Glad you like it! (And glad people picked up on the Waterson influence :-) - Kevin Fox
Merry Christmas! :D - Ron
Happy Holidays FF crue -- you've made this an excellent and memorable year for many of us. Facebook couldn't have done it without you! :) - Christopher Galtenberg
w00t you gave me the best online year in 15 years!!! ;p Thanks a lot, everyone, for what you've done here XD - Zu from AOD
Merry Christmas to all - Craig Eddy
Merry Christmas! - Svein Håvard Djupvik
Haha! I love horrified snowmen. Merry Christmas to FriendFeed! - Chris Lasher
Joyeux Noel a tout le monde! - Mathieu Ayel
Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! - Anne Bouey
happy christmas, chanukah and kwanzaa. - Deniz Eda Goze
happy chrismas and a happy new year!!! - ethan meccage
Awwwww sniff - Kevin Fox
Happy holidays! Take good care of yourselves and... enjoy those days off! <o> \o, - Zu from AOD
Merry Christmas! - Ian May
Tks and love you all !!! - @Renchin@
ahh, the good ol' days. - MikeAmundsen
Happy Holidays FriendFeers! <superbump /> - AJ Batac
cool!! - Ferzvladimir
*bump* - imabonehead
Sigh. Sometimes it is the little touches, like seasonal logos or easter eggs, that mark a site as a living project, and that you really miss when the developers have all moved on to something else. - Michael R. Bernstein
ای جان چقدر خوبه این - WALL.E
Scoble, Alex Scoble
My wedding tip #3: Schedule the honeymoon to happen at least a week after the wedding. Invariably either the bride and/or groom get sick right after the wedding and going to your honeymoon while sick is totally counterproductive to actually having the honeymoon in the first place.
Tip #1 was Do your guest list before you do anything else. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Tip #2 was Do yourself a favor and hire a wedding planner/manager...even if they only help you on the rehearsal dinner/wedding day. For most people, a wedding will be 10 times more stressful without a knowledgeable planner guiding the process. They know the vendors and what they will and won't do and you don't. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
will remember - Zee.
I agree with tips 1 & 2 but tip 3 is based on a premise that doesn't always prove true. - Akiva
In my experience this happens more often than not...so on the risk equation it is prudent to follow this advice. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
How many times have you been married, son?! - Akiva
My parents had two honeymoons as well one weekend one right after and then the week long honey moon a couple months later. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood
I know far too many people who got sick right after the wedding, Akiva, which is why I followed this advice...well mostly...Also was a factor of when Cassie can get off from school. And yes, I'm dealing with a cold right now. Imagine how much fun Jamaica would NOT be if we were there right now. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex, you're right. Happened to me. - Melanie Reed
Now that I think about it, it makes sense that people might get sick right after a wedding mainly due to stress more than anything else. Purely anecdotal but interesting enough. - Akiva
food poisoning, epic hangover :P - Terry O'Fee
Are you gonna put these on a blog or something? Remember, I'm getting married in like 6 months and this particular tip hit close to home. - Rahsheen
I've been married twice and no honeymoon either time. Are there any rules about taking a honeymoon on your 5th anniversary? - Sally - Skyrimmin' It
Our guest list is still in flux. Sis in law was handling the planning, but she's not well. We already have catering+venue locked in, though. - Rahsheen
Have fun? Oh and I recommend that you make it 10 days if possible. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
regarding tip #3: Although I think it's wise in general, this would have backfired big time for me. We went on our honeymoon immediately after the wedding and had a great time. The day after we got back, I woke up sicker than I'd ever been before. - Jim #teamFFrank
It actually wasn't so bad. I recovered, AND I got an extra two days off from work! - Jim #teamFFrank
And part of #3 should be: Unless it's some place local, don't drink the water. This also means no ice in your drinks, no salad, no fountain sodas, or anything in which the local water supply will get into your body without being sterilized first. You are used to the organisms that are present in your local water supply. What is in a different region may not match what you are used to.... more... - April Russo (FForever!)
My folks got married during the war (the Big One) and had their honeymoon 5 years later. I went with them. Don't wait too long. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Sally, we took our honeymoon fofr our 2nd anniversary. - Anika
We vacationed for our 1st anniversary, but I was 6 mos pregnant and we didn't get to have all the fun we'd originally planned. I'm thinking maybe someone can watch Travis for us in a few years so we can do something just the two of us. I'm thinking his FL grandparents can watch him and we'll take a cruise. - Sally - Skyrimmin' It
We waited 5 days and had a stay-cation for those days which is as valuable to me as vacation is! - Rachel Lea Fox
Jeremy, even if you're not on your honeymoon quite yet, you can still "get down" on your wedding night! - Rochelle
I totally agree. I got sick two days into my honeymoon. - Adam Martin
Honeymoon! Dammit! I knew I forgot something! Arrrgh! - Morgan
I don't think I ever said it, so congratulations Alex! And I'm saving these tips for the future. - Arlan K.
My wife and I did the same. Married on Saturday, back to work for a week. Flew to Hawaii following Saturday. :) - Louis Gray
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