hello dear my name is Becca, am new to this site and am looking for a relationship. i will like you to write me here with my mail (beccadd15@yahoo.com ) so that i will send you my pics and also tell you more about my life style. reply me here ( beccadd15@yahoo.com ) i will be waiting you in my mailbox ok
- becca
I think Becca got the wrong idea about "down under"...
- Melly Botts
from fftogo
Yeah, sorry I couldn't respond to that one before. :-)
- Kevin Fox
well i be darned .... we now can rejoice, since fast paced additions to already good product are surely fastly coming about off the feedpipe ... it'l be a hectic season of finest upgrades ... I'm sure they'l start with keyboard shortcutze. ... I mean Google Reader rules on that. Intelligent to the extreme. ..Google.com, on the other hand - are we sleeping? .. not even "/" ??.. and that...
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- pb:
Congrats Ben! Totally agree with Jason. Our latest project wouldn't have become feasible without Ben -- I'm just so glad we managed to get a fraction of his time before he left! :)
- Simon
Congratulations, Ben! You're joining an awesome team.
- Anne Bouey
Congrats, you are now a "big company"! ;))))
- K.D.
That's not my picture! They got the picture wrong! In fact, I didn't get the letter of hire either. :( Oh, Hi there, Ben...if that's your real name. ;)
- Josh Haley
Good luck Ben! With you our preferred service will go more interesting
- Roberto
from fftogo
I think there were a bunch of spam comments made to some 2009-era posts by FF employees. For some reason even after the spam is nuked, the post stays bumped.
- Stephen Mack
Yes, I blocked a spammer that was bumping old posts about FF themes and what not.
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
Well, let's see this as an opportunity to raise a virtual glass to Ben and FriendFeed-that-was!
- Kevin Fox
It probably had something to do with the Tornado 2.2 release. I noticed Ben was the one who posted about the release on HN earlier. Edit: Or it could have just been a spammer. *shrugs*
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I don't think it had anything to do with the tornado release - a spammer bumped a bunch of Bret's old posts today.
- Ben Darnell
hello dear my name is Becca, am new to this site and am looking for a relationship. i will like you to write me here with my mail (beccadd15@yahoo.com ) so that i will send you my pics and also tell you more about my life style. reply me here ( beccadd15@yahoo.com ) i will be waiting you in my mailbox ok
- becca
Sharpie pens, 5x8 writing pads, blank index cards, metal ruler, mini post-its, Swingline 747 stapler (red, if available), mini mirror for monitor.
- caj needs a haircut
Department of Unanticipated Results: In the next few months, 3,000,000 Californians will qualify for state-funded health insurance as mandated by Obamacare. The result? Many doctors are now leaving the profession, as the mandated payments do not actually cover the costs of caring for these patients.
Doctors would earn less and have to spend huge amounts of time caring for these patients, and many are electing to simply change careers instead. (Source: a neurologist friend of mine sharing some of the back room chatter at a local medical conference.)
- I like big Botts
That's similar to my dad's inability to run his own medical practice profitably due to patients on Medicare and Medicaid who would pay only a % of that which was charged. It's the same story with new names.
- Louis Gray
What about the insurance company's fixed payments system? That seems to continually squeeze the system as well without mandates. Health coverage isn't single payer, even under the new health care law. I'm trying to understand.
- Eric
A doctor doesn't have deal with any of these insurance plans if they don't wish. Just take cash customers. Or barter for chickens like the old days.
- Todd Hoff
Or become a consultant and leave the medical profession, which is what a lot of those top neurologists are doing.
- I like big Botts
There's also a ton of frustration with the bureaucracy as well. For example, if someone comes in with a broken foot, doctors are required to get their full-life smoking history because the feds require it. If they don't get all the forms filled out correctly, then they don't get paid. 20 years ago, my friend spent 5 hours a week on insurance; today, it's closer to 30.
- I like big Botts
Health insurance has always been a crackpot crazy business of trying to squeeze everyone but the insurance company. Just look at my co-pays skyrocketing, premiums, cuts in coverage, and the craziness of trying to get insurance when I was running a small business, and I have all the proof I need. Not allowing poor or unemployed to take part doesn't help much. Just my opinion of course.
- Eric
You just can't reap as much profit from providing health care as you used to. There are a lot easier ways to make money. Like working in health care adminstration or for the insurance companies....
- Victor Ganata
The root problem is threefold: (1) calling it "insurance" when it little of it in most cases is actually insurance against unforeeen risk, it's predictable expenses; (2) tying insurance coverage to employers; (3) political corruption between the insurance industry and lawmakers.
- Tinfoil 2.0
PPACA or not, this was always going to come to a crisis point. The incomes of physicians hasn't changed in the last twenty years or so. If you adjust for inflation that means people finishing med school now make a fraction of what they would have before HMOs came to dominate the state. And student debt has only multiplied. A lot of people in my cohort feel like the only realistic option...
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- Victor Ganata
The root problem is that people want something for nothing.
- Victor Ganata
Let's be realistic. The rest of the industrialized world has some form of universal access. People spend a fraction of what we spend and have about the same outcomes. Physicians don't seem to be quitting in droves elsewhere. I suspect plunging the system into free market chaos is not the solution.
- Victor Ganata
I'll be honest about my opinion: anyone going into this field thinking that they're going to make vast sums of money is a moron, a crook, or both. But the old every-man-for-himself model is dead, dead, dead, and whenever paradigms shift, there are going to be lots of casualties. PPACA is just a stopgap measure to make sure it doesn't collapse entirely and all at once, and that we're not reduced to providing health care on par with the average developing nation.
- Victor Ganata
Sammy was diagnosed with a moderate gluten allergy (likely exacerbating his skin problems). So now I'm trying to wrap my head around a gluten-free diet for him. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
From the wiki article: "A gluten-free diet allows for fresh fruits, vegetables, meats and many dairy products. The diet allows rice, corn, soy, potato, tapioca, beans, sorghum, quinoa, millet, buckwheat, arrowroot, amaranth, teff, Montina and nut flours and prohibits the ingestion of wheat, barley, rye and related components, including triticale, durum, graham, kamut, semolina, spelt, malt, malt flavouring or malt vinegar."
- Stephen Mack
from Bookmarklet
There are many more gluten free options than before. I'm sorry to hear that.
- Shevonne
from iPhone
Yeah, there's definitely more available than there used to be and the Bay Area is an epicenter of that availability. There are a number of folks here on FF who have gluten allergies and could offer advice. I wonder if there's an FF room for it? Shoot a note to RAPatton, too. He's an expert at making goodies that are gluten-free.
- Spidra Webster
We're here for your Stephen. Both Janine and I have celiac so the house is gluten free. Just let me know what you need to know. It's not that bad once you figure out the logistics. You can eat all fruits, vegetables, potato, meat, rice, non flavored chips and once you know where to shop you can make almost anything. Hardest part is being smart eating out but even that's easier than ever. On FF you can ask me, Lix, or RAPatton for advice.
- SteVe C
I have a couple emails to send you with local options but I have found that quinoa pasta tastes best (at least to me) and I have a favorite glutin free pasta sauce I'll double check the name for you. Also Mexican food has lots of glutin free options.
- Rachel Lea Fox
from iPhone
Thanks Rachel! I made him some rice pasta mac 'n' cheese the other night. It was awful. He hated it. (Although Sophie liked it okay.)
- Stephen Mack
Yeah I never liked the rice pasta either. You can get quinoa at most super markets. I don't need glutin free in everything but I still make it sometimes.
- Rachel Lea Fox
from iPhone
My mother-in-law has celiac as well, so we're pretty well-versed on travelling with it as a consideration, where to shop, restaurants that are accommodating (and I imagine that like Seattle, your area has a lot of them). I also agree that the quinoa pasta tastes best and has the best texture. I also have a lot of recipes for cakes, etc.
- joey
Stephen, my favorite pasta sauce is Mezzetta Napa Valley Bistro. I love the Creamy Vodka Style Marinara but all of their sauces have been good. I also sent you an article about the all gluten free store in SF but here it is again: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin...
- Rachel Lea Fox
Got the e-mail, thanks! So far with Sammy, I've learned he really likes simple. I tried two different gluten-free bars, and the one I thought he'd like with caramel was too much, but the straightforward rice puff and peach one he liked a lot. (He's still not big into sauces.)
- Stephen Mack
Oh and there was a discussion on here about a particularly good gluten free brownie mix. But now I can't remember if it was from Whole Foods or Trader Joe's. I'd know if I saw it. Can anyone chime in with the answer?
- Rachel Lea Fox
I think the most challenging thing about this is that he's a picky eater to begin with. Plus he's allergic to nuts & peanuts, And plus he's saying he wants to be a vegetarian...
- Stephen Mack
Oh goodness that is difficult. I just know when I was experimenting with gluten free I was surprised to find that pasta sauce had gluten in it. I never would have guessed that. Turns out it was good that I did since it seems I have no gluten allergy but in tomato products they must remove something else, likely a preservative, that I have huge issues with. So all my pasta sauce has to be gluten free.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Jimminy, that wasn't the original discussion I saw but I think you are right. I just remember discussing the brownies on here in the past and getting a box and trying it and really liking it. I think the original discussion is so old that it is no longer in the buffer on here. :(
- Rachel Lea Fox
Kristine is gluten free and no doubt can help, Stephen.
- Louis Gray
Betty Crocker now has gf cake and brownie mixes in regular stores both excellent too. How old is Sammy? Just wondering age range to send ya food hints like tequila vs gluten free rice krispies?
- SteVe C
Steve, he's 6. Tequila is a ways off. :)
- Stephen Mack
Louis Gray: Which is it, sir? Is it "Thou shalt not check in and drive" or is it "I [...] have always been willing to bend the rules a bit, through [...] drive by check-ins"?
It's against the law to text & drive in CA (or operate a phone without a wireless headset), Mo.
- Spidra Webster
What if traffic is completely stopped, as it often is at the 237 & 101 interchange?
- Tudor Bosman
I don't think the cops would count that unless you're actually pulled off onto the shoulder and the parking brake is on. They're even ticketing people who juggle with a meal while driving. They're cited under "distracted driving".
- Spidra Webster
Yeah, Spidra's right, and red light usage is also illegal -- no cell phone usage while the car is running.
- Stephen Mack
from iPhone
Interesting. Dialing and selecting a contact from your phone's address book for the purpose of making a call are specifically allowed (if you use a hands-free device, or your phone's speakerphone): http://dmv.ca.gov/cellula... "This law does not prohibit reading, selecting or entering a phone number, or name in an electronic wireless device for the purpose of making or receiving a phone call. Drivers are strongly urged not to enter a phone number while driving."
- Tudor Bosman
There's a GPS function exemption too, if I remember correctly.
- Stephen Mack
from iPhone
I wasn't wrong when I picked all four teams for the championships this year.
- Cristo
Did you? Must have gone the way of all old FF threads.
- The original Kevin
Let us hope the Patriots's sacrifice has the desired result. Because a world with both Romney as president and obnoxious New York fans being even more obnoxious is not one that I want to live in.
- The original Kevin
The Giants beat the Patriots again. Cancel the election. God still loves us.
- Cristo
Cool. No need to go and vote since we already know the outcome. 9.9
- Morton Fox
Fascinating. Some of the many things I didn't know about him: He was of Norwegian descent, a decorated combat pilot in WW2, a medical inventor (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...), and he wrote the screenplay for Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
- Stephen Mack
from Bookmarklet
And he didn't like the Gene Wilder film version of Willy Wonka.
- Stephen Mack
I have a feeling that he would have liked the Burton Willy Wonka even less, darker jokes notwithstanding. That newer one was completely lacking charm and just aggressively weird.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
We love him for his Norwegianness. I grew up with his books :)
- Eivind
Eivind, me too. :) I guess my favorite would be "Fantastic Mr Fox" but I've been reading "The Enormous Crocodile" to my kids a lot lately.
- Stephen Mack
i am not a big fan of the things he wrote for kids but i really like the short stories he has written for adults, with unexpected twists and dark endings. and the only novel i read by him, "my uncle oswald", is absolutely hilarious!
- grizabella
I love him. I grew up with many of his books, even the non kid friendly ones. He's an important part of my upbringing.
- Georgia
Yesterday evening my son take a first look to the "original" Wonka movie. This morning he still sing the Hoompa Loompa song!
- Xabaras (G.O.)
I have a collection of his short stories that includes a biography, fascinating guy. I think I've loved his writing all my life. One of his stories, The Man From the South, was an excellent episode of Alfred Hitchcock Theater, and also used by Quentin Tarantino in Four Rooms (I think that was the title).
- Starmama
from FFHound(roid)!
I'm going to be writing about smart phones this month for REDACTED website. I need a new Android and Windows Phone to do some testing, but I don't have Scoble money. Hrmm. Samsung is not getting back to me.
I don't know that you can and if you did, I don't think you'll get the full experience because of the limited hardware.
- Anika
I'm trying out the features of the OS more than the hardware itself, but I don't want to give myself phone rage either.
- Eric
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I can put Ice Cream Sandwich on my phone, but know that it will be limited. It has features that's coded into my phone. Adrian's running it on the TouchPad and has mentioned what he can't do with it since it's not made for the TouchPad. Are there even phones with that on it anyway. I thought most were still coming new with Gingerbread and a few with Honeycomb.
- Anika
At any rate, he'd be a better person to talk to about that, since he's the ROM modder dude. I'll shut up now. =)
- Anika
I believe the new Samsung Galaxy Nexus ships with ICS.
- Eric
That man must have two dozen 2 year cell phone contracts! ;)
- Eric
I would be more than willing to let you play with the Galaxy S II if you want. Plus, I can also answer any questions you would like to ask about it.
- David Cook
I know a wonderful place with infinite Android models....
- Louis Gray
Thank you David, but I don't want to mess up your phone! Louis, Louis, Louis, I would love to know where the Android Cave is. EDIT: And I hope you're not talking about the Verizon Store. lol
- Eric
In Pic #3, I am holding my youngest brother (picture in 1984). In pic #4, I am with my younger brother who was a year behind me. He is sporting one of our Superman capes.
- Louis Gray
These remind me of Chris Pirillo's kid pics. Do glasses predestine you to become a geek? :) I think I'll ask the government for millions of dollars to study that question. Fascinating.
- Dawn
Adorable !! Thanks for sharing :) I wish I had more pics of my childhood (they're all at my Mom's house!)
- Susan Beebe
You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
Just curious - at what time of the day will we get these emails ? Midnight US-Time, or will it respect our timezones ?
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Friendfeed's Francisco
That link doesn't show me an option for turning off personal results :( just me?
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Rudi, do you have personal results in your searches? Maybe that feature isn't enabled for you yet? Do you even have a Google account?
- Stephen Mack
I did nuke g+, but have not yet nuked google entirely. I was logged in, and had options for safe search etc. I suspect it's being on an iPad, I'll try this later on the PC.
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Public service announcement: Cristo (http://friendfeed.com/cristob...) is a good person to subscribe to. In fact, as WoH once said, "One of the things I appreciate about Friendfeed is Cristo constantly pushing the boundaries of pretty much everything. Without his tireless application of WTF? posts, comments, accounts and rooms Friendfeed would be that much less interesting."
- Stephen Mack
(and yeah, I get personal results. Totally useless. I've been reintroducing myself to bing, and checking out duckduckgo lately)
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Sorry, but I'll have to disagree with you, Stephen. I've had Cristo blocked so long that I forget exactly why I blocked him.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
I've never felt the need to block Cristo. He's never been mean to me. He deletes his comments though on old posts then it looks like I'm talking to myself. :P
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
Zulema, I really can't even remember what it was. I was on the verge of blocking him for a very long time, and then one day he pushed me over the edge, but I can't remember what the specific trigger was. I just remember that he sort of got on my nerves, and then one day I'd had enough.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah, that's fine, I certainly don't want to imply that he's for everyone -- and I think FF works best if people use it however they want. But while he can say mean things, he's never serious when he does say them, and once I realized he's just teasing, I now find him to be a very amusing presence on FF.
- Stephen Mack
By definition, isn't it a Google Account-based feature (actually a Google+ Profile feature)? It should be a server-based Account setting, not subject to the whims of varying devices and evaporating cookies. UPDATE: As expected, it does not show up as a setting if you are not logged in.
- Tinfoil 2.0
We have received numerous reports of excessive FriendFeed posts showing up in Facebook this evening. While we are not 100% sure, it appears to be an issue on Facebook's end due to ignoring application settings. We have disabled all FriendFeed updates to Facebook until we are sure the problem is resolved.
See http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... for more information - it seems to also have impacted Twitter's Facebook app. Again, we are not sure if it is a problem on our end or not, but we are investigating now.
- Bret Taylor
No problem, if I knew it was on your end, I wouldn't have cared, but thanks for letting me know about the situation. I was confused because it happened right as I was trying out a new twitter game. This was compounded by the fact that the game has no controls for turning off public messages. I'll bet they plan to add them later, but right now they want everyone to hear about it. It’s a...
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- Michael Fidler
So, is it fixed?Every tweet, every everything is showing up as individual news feed posts for all my friends, this is too much and I'm likely to piss them all off. Options ... 1.Stop tweeting etc. 2.Ditch the FF Facebook application. Hmmm, it's a no brainer. Anyone got any updates on this?
- Michael M Bailey
Ross and Dan made this video to illustrate the advanced technology we use behind the scenes at FriendFeed. (Ross and Dan, you are amazing - I can't believe how awesome this thing turned out)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
How very creative. This is very fluid and cool.
- Louis Gray
OK, not exactly what I was expecting, but very cool.
- Kevin Arth
Anyone have the video somewhere other than Youtube? it's banned here in Turkey and I can't wait until we get home (next month) to watch it!!
- Chris Myles
Bret, this video should be titled: A Love Song for FriendFeed ! Great vid (and music) !
- Ahsan Ali
This is superb. I just showed it to my 5 year old son who enjoys Lego and has already taken some great photos, including one or two of his toys. So now he has the seed of the idea that, in time, he could take multiple stills and put them together to make moving pictures. Thank you very much for posting it and giving me and him that opportunity. Maybe, he might use FriendFeed one day too!
- John W Lewis
I think they need to make a full stop-motion version of the Matrix in legos. Now THAT would be awesome. I wonder what bullet-time looks like in LEGO?
- Bret Taylor
i'd pay to see the stop animation lego matrix, but not the sequels
- patrick
"Equipment Generously Provided By Casey Muller" - hahaha!! THIS IS AWESOMESAUCE!!! I love the creative energy and vibe in this video... LOTS of work went into that one! Thanks guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Genius, how much time did that all take?
- Wayne Hornsey
Chris Myles: if you want ot - DM me an address and I'll mail you a copy.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Hey FriendFeeders! I love you guys. One of the big differences between FriendFeed and Google+ so far has been the different approaches to common names, nicknames and pseudonyms. Today, there is an announcement that expands support for nicknames, and what we call established pseudonyms, which you've been using for a while. https://plus.google.com/b...
Names aren't the biggest issue that keeps me from using it. I'm pretty sure it's close to the bottom of my list.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Does it come with a set of steak knives?
- Rodfather
Hi Akiva! I should not sleep during work hours, and Jimminy, I always listen to feedback.
- Louis Gray
Louis, don't get testy. We're going to eventually be fathers-in-law. You must obey.
- Akiva
I'm hearing the +1 button is working more like the FF Bookmarklet. I'll reserve comment until I've checked it out. As to the 'nym issue, for some the damage is done. The initial responses and actions/reactions from Google were more telling than their change of mind.
- caj needs a haircut
from FFHound!
Would "Warmaiden, HoneyBoom Shitstirrer," be acceptable as a name? I'm asking for a friend.
- I like big Botts
@LG- pseudonyms vs Real identify. ?? What ever happened to google wanting to control real World ID's and ID management across the various ecosystems. When Google+ come out, they removed pseudonyms a/c's and created a Backlash. Dont your think its easier to say "hey we sorry- we f*%ked up and trying to settle the issue for the community. The ecosystem is a community, for the community and by the community.. no corporation can control that.
- Peter Dawson
Glen, I bet "Warmaiden, HoneyBoom Shitstirrer" would probably not pass due to the last word containing a naughty phrase.
- Louis Gray
Caj, I don't believe the +1 button is looking more like FF's bookmarklet, but I can check again. As for the nym issue, it's been a very public discussion, obviously, one without an easy answer.
- Louis Gray
Peter, control is not a word any of us would use. Note I joined in August after the initial discussions. I think today's move is a great improvement.
- Louis Gray
Not enough LG. Like Warlord said, too little too late.
- NotdaBOTTurlokin4
@LG, so if this is the No case on control - how can you explain the fact the SERP are different on various H/W devices ? After all , is that not control on what is being displayed... further more the fact that G+ is heavily used in the indexing of Google Plus pages ?? Seems that something is heavily flawed with Goggles theory .. and yes we all know that you joined later in the game, but...
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- Peter Dawson
@KG, actually I stand corrected.. I emailed Barry of SERoundtable.. seems google results are 1+ (one off) syndrome.. more like a bug rather then a feature .. !
- Peter Dawson
Based on Yonatan's comments at https://plus.google.com/u... it sounds like FriendFeed must invite awfulness because there are names like "m9m" and "Micah" and "whatever" and "CW" and "LAG liked that" and "caj is meh". Is FriendFeed that awful?
- Amit Patel
Being able to modify your name to suit your mood or desire is a PLUS for Friendfeed in my book.
- caj needs a haircut
Also, I don't understand your comment "...FriendFeed must invite awfulness...".
- caj needs a haircut
Although, we could all update our names so his comment makes even less sense. :)
- caj needs a haircut
To be honest, I think it is a step forward, and I also understand why ppl are still upset. I didn't like it, either, but to me it was much bette than the awfulness of the Quora debacle. I had already chosen to go by my 2 names on Google+, and my biggest problem now is how to deal with multiple email addresses, blogger logins and YouTube accounts.
- WoH: Minding her Botts
You know, I think Louis may be right. With the ability to set any name at all on FriendFeed, just take a look at what's happened here! It's truly appalling.
- I like big Botts
It's a tragedy of epic proportions. Also, sleep is awesome.
- caj needs a haircut
Still forces you to use your real name, all this does is open the ability to associate a nickname that you might be known by elsewhere, and personally that's not good enough. I refuse to adopt any social network that doesn't allow me to maintain my online anonymity.
- Benny Bucko <Team Melly>
What caj said. Botts has taken name-changing to it's highest art form. Look, I can do it too! ==>
- Laura Norvig
I think I prefer the Google+ way of naming. You can add and display a nickname but it still shows your real name. It gives some control of names, there is always a constant in the name so its easy to see who you are but at the same time you can add a bit of fun with the nickname.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you for linking to that, melly. Just LOLed at the guy who wanted to know if FriendFeed was really as awful as it sounded based on user names like Micah. !!
- edythe
from iPhone
IS MICAH EVEN A NAME? WHAT THE HELL IS A MICAH?
- Que Sarah Sarah
That thread is made by that one guy's comment. You should all be renaming yourselves after Amit Patel. :) :P
- edythe
from iPhone
Whoa. Here's the irony. Amit was defending Friendfeed (and the freedom to self-identify). I think some read him the wrong way in the heat of the moment. Using sarcasm, Amit was actually criticizing Yonatan Zunger's / Google's stance on identification.
- Micah
Micah: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Heavens, thank you. That was lost on me. Oops. Darn it. It was kind of fun thinking Amit found Friendfeed so distasteful based on the user names. :)
- edythe
from iPhone
Comment here if you changed your name to some silly variant of Louis Gray to make a point about nymwars or in response to the thread about google plus or to join a silly friendfeed meme or for no reason at all. Then, somebody take a gotdamn screenshot so we can show Louis and we can all go back to being who we are. kthxbai.
I did it because everybody else was doing it, and yes if everyone else jumped off the Sydney Harbour Bridge, I would too, because I have no self-esteem and always bow to peer pressure.
- Melly Botts
Ok, screenshot achieved. Missed a few people, but that's how it goes. Will post later today if I have time.
- Laura Norvig
from iPhone
It took me 1.5-years to get RSS after Dave Winer first showed it to me. So, I am getting faster. Took me just a few months to get friendfeed. Glad you kept after me.
- Robert Scoble
So how do I access it? <---I take that back. Didn't realize what I was looking at when I went to the site.
- Mattie Kenny
Josh: it was a seasonal thing last year at this time, so it is no longer possible. We may have to bring it back by popular demand, but for now the entries you see are all from last year.
- Bret Taylor
Bret - bring back those cute little red icons next to the FF posts! easy seasonal "flair" feature!
- Susan Beebe
The first thing that attracted me to Google Plus was its similarity to Friendfeed. If you're still active here on FF and not really liking G+, I'd be curious to know why?
Or to put it another way, I played with an account name that is unknown. In the first 10 hours, I had nearly 500 people add me to their circles. What's the point in that? How did they even find me?
- Anika
from FFHound!
^This and poor management decisions at high altitude of the company. #Nymwars nailed it though. Not worth the pain.
- NotdaBOTTurlokin4
For me there are UI things like what Anika's mentioned. While I have a lot of people following me, I don't get much substantive interaction. You get a lot of interaction so I can see why you'd like it. But for the majority of folks, I think the experience is like being lost in a mall instead of going to a general store where you can talk to the guys hanging out 'round the cracker barrel. I do social networking for the *social* part. When the social's not there, there's no point to it.
- Spidra Webster
So Anika, you would prefer more control over who can Circle you? I am curious because at first it was like "Cool, here comes all the folks I know from FF! Great!" ...and then there were substantially fewer.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
The tool set there seems nearly the same on G+ as FF to me (with some obvious additions)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
All the reports of people being told what they should and shouldn't post was discouraging to me.
- Stephen Mack
Maybe they've made new changes but last I knew there were no groups. No way to get a group of people interested in common subject matter together other than assembling a circle. DMs also get lost since there's no real notifier window specific to DMs. I don't like the lack of a true block.
- Spidra Webster
In addition to the nymwars, lack of "My Discussions" and Groups and DMs bugs me. The toolset is *almost* as good, but not there for me.
- Stephen Mack
I hope I'm not sounding as though I'm trying to sell anyone on anything. I'm genuinely curious.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Honestly, I'm not really wild about the Circles concept in practice. It sounded great in theory but it's a lot of work to construct a bunch of different circles for different things and be in charge of figuring out whether someone wants to read various posts of yours or not. I think FF's approach of putting some of those tools in the poster's hands and some in the reader's hands works better.
- Spidra Webster
2 things: 1st) For me at least, FriendFeed seems more fun. 2nd) The unlimitedness of it all. For someone trying to reach a massive amount of people, collect the most +1 or be circled 100,000 times it's great... but if you use social media to form strong relationships and know what lies behind the name and the avatar, doing so in a crowded football stadium is a turn off/intimidating. I...
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- Johnny
from iPhone
I have loads of strangers who've put me in their circles which means *they're* broadcasting to me rather than that they're following me. I don't like that model. I think the following model with granular controls and blocks is better.
- Spidra Webster
Rob, I don't want to (and won't) interact with many people *on* FF, so seeing them on G+ isn't a...plus in my book. Besides, the ones I do like, I may follow them on Twitter and/or Facebook. Do I need yet another site where I'll see the same exact thing? No. I'm sure they feel the same about me, since much of what I post to Twitter gets posted to FB at the same time and feeds into here when it's working.
- Anika
Rob, I don't use GChat because IMs actually hurt me more than regular posts. I get more keyed up about posting in an IM format than a regular DM system and that creates more RSI pain. I know that wouldn't be an issue for most people.
- Spidra Webster
I get it. Thank you Anika, Spidra, CW, Johnny, Joe, Stephen for your replies. My experience on G+, especially in using Hangouts, was that I could talk face-to-face with people.People whom I count as friends from other networks via a text UI like we have here. The realtime face-to-face conversation trumped the text experience for me. In 15 seconds, the interaction seemed (for lack of a...
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- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Video created its own issues for me. My room is a mess so I don't want people seeing that, and I'm not wild about how I look so I'm not always eager to do video chatting. And then there's the technical side of not always having the bandwidth to do it. So Hangouts are not a huge draw for me. I've observed what a useful tool they are for a lot of people but the novelty of it wore off quickly for me. It felt a bit like Chat Roulette. Right now I use them occasionally to talk with people I already know from FF.
- Spidra Webster
I will add that the tools such as Hangouts is really cool. I do like them. Wish they made it more of a secondary app or add on to gchat instead of anchored to a webservice that is useless.
- NotdaBOTTurlokin4
Despite all of what said, though, I do check it daily and participate a bit. Plus I do love Louis Gray.
- Stephen Mack
Hangouts...well, that's all about the people again. I was a Seesmic and TokBox user. Most of the people I spoke to regularly (daily) on those services don't use G+, so that's not a bonus for me either. I just use Gtalk or, if I'm really desperate, Skype.
- Anika
Spidra/ Anika--Hangouts have many uses, all of which are valid. I use them like I use Skype: For 1-on-1 family video calls, for private lessons or talking with friends.. Then for more public applications too: getting to know new people or using it as a performance space.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
^^ Right, that's no different than Seesmic or TokBox, but as I said...it's people. I'm not going to hop on a Hangout when I have no control over who gets in it.
- Anika
Anika, you have control over who gets in. In the early days, it was indeed very chat roulette-like.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Johnny, I know you have a lot of time and energy invested in FF and can appreciate that it is here, so, why not use it. :-)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Right now, even at this hour, I see many conversations on my FF feed. On my Plus account, it's mostly +1s except for the big accounts I follow like Scoble, you, Louis, Daria Musk...
- Spidra Webster
Spidra, I think that's because there are a great many private threads, like DM's here. You can address a thread to an individual or a group of any size and it will not appear on the public stream. I guess THAT is the DM function as much, if not more than the GChat module. I use GChat if I need an immediate rely to something--it's a text message to a person without needing their phone number.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
The "real name" policy bugged me... I'm not trying to hide who I am, and I've left enough breadcrumbs across the Net to connect the dots and figure who I am. The fact that Google made it such a big deal about it at the outset deflated my interest. What happened to: "On the Internet, no one knows if you're a dog?" And why should it matter?
- .LAG liked that
I like Hangouts, but with small children it's difficult to do anything in real-time because of constant interruptions, having to get up to change a diaper, etc etc.
- Melly Botts
Although I like G+, I can't seem to get into it. It feels a bit too cold
- Mo Kargas
*shrugs* Guess I'm still a small-town kid. If ff were ever to go under, I'd probably take another look at G+ (if it's still around), but for now I'm quite content where I am.
- Brent
from iPhone
Never saw the need, and #nymwars for me brought back the Orkut fuckery back in the day. (Google cracked down hard on users who were acting within the rules but outside the unspoken rules Google imagined for Orkut: just arbitrary deletions, and after that was deemed unacceptably shitty behavior, they instituted "Orkut jail", itself a poorly thought out scheme. So long story short, IMO the pseudonym debacle for me showed Google still doesn't get how to run a forum.)
- Andrew C (✓)
I was really active on G+ for a while, but I had had to create a new account since Google didn't support Google Apps. Once they allowed that, I switched back to using my "real" account, but I lost about 90% of my followers in the transition, since Google does not permit changing email addresses like that. Now, my G+ is really dull in comparison to the friends I have on FF, so I tend to gravitate back here.
- I like big Botts
I echo a lot of what is said about interactions on G+. I love the form and design, but there are too many people following me with no real interaction outside people I already knew. And the people I know still aren't using it enough, except one or two who work there and mostly talk work/promo. Also I have always hated most forms of video chat, I'm a multi-tasker and I don't want scype,...
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- Rachel Lea Fox
from iPhone
Too many glitches and an annoying interface on G+. It keeps letting random people tag me in photos that I'm not in. No real reason to set up a whole new social network when I still have FF and I use Twitter and Facebook often enough. Not enough interaction, random people in the circles, most of what people have already said here. I might like an item when I happen to see it on G+, I've been using Google's social search results, but I don't post things there and I don't check it regularly.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
The best part of FriendFeed (besides all the usual stuff)? It doesn't have 90 million users. Oh, and people don't get to tell me I should follow them or take explicit action not to. I look at G+ regularly (switching to my selected circle immediately), but I spend a *lot* more time here.
- Walt Crawford
To be honest, I am just not impressed by the content I see on G+. It's like reshare after reshare after reshare of the same thing, over and over again. I feel bad that FF lost a bunch of people to that service when it's not that great. I go over there every now and then; usually only when FF is really quiet or down. It's still better than FB, but not by much. I get a sense of community on FF that I will never find on G+.
- Kelli H.
Did Google add a bookmarklet feature yet? For me, conversation tends to grow organically around interesting topics. If you make it more difficult than it should be, I'm not going to be inclined to seed topics for discussion.
- caj needs a haircut
from FFHound!
1. stop inserting ads between my 'content' 2. why don't you let people upload their own content? 3. i don't have to be real guy to connect your sucked system. you should let me be anon whenever i like to.
- kunthar
caj--a bookmarklet (of sorts) is built-in to the 'Share' functionality G+.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Kelli H. I get that. It's same on every network. You have to follow quality ppl. There are spam bots there like everywhere on the web.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
kunthar--I haven't seen any ads on G+ (yet) and you can upload your own content: photos and videos anyway. Most everything else is supported by other Google product integration.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
It feels antiseptic and clinical to me. Sterile. Ditto on the circles and their complicated placements. That's one part of it. Another is that I can only handle so many social networks. I like Tumblr but I can't be everywhere, so I have to pick my battles.
- Derrick
caj--I'm familiar w/ and have used the FF bookmarklet for years. It's not necessary on G+. The ubiquitous +1 button does that.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
@rob who are you? social lead generation manager of gugul? your answers are NOT valid and not verifies anything else against my arguments.
- kunthar
from iPhone
I'm on both because the community that I originally found and connected to here has now split between friendfeed, Facebook and G+. I get about the same level of content from both places, but do tend to get a little bit more interaction here, although interaction on either place isn't like what friendfeed was in its heyday.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
And for political discussion these days I'm spending most of my time in a private Facebook group for that.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Google+ feels less like a quick, continuous feed and more like a blog with community sharing enabled. FriendFeed's dynamic is light and immediate, whereas G+ seems to be more… I don't know, um, industrial? There's more work to it, more knobs and switches and blinkenlights. FF is streamlined; it does exactly what you'd expect it to do.
- Moody (Sweet FA 4 Life)
Among other things, FrF is stream aggregator - I can plugin here all my activities out there (minus walled gardens like FB). G+ can not do that - it appears to be designed to serve GOOG interest, not your interests. G+ looks like branch from Diaspora* from which they had cut out decentralization, rehashed style towards recent single design, rolled on optimizations for own server farms...
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- A. T.
First, the nasty "real name" policy. Now, the fact that they're apparently forcing people to create a G+ profile in order to sign up for anything else Google. That (combined with the fact that if you have a pseudonym on G+ they can and have banned people from all Google's products) makes me deeply uncomfortable.
- Deborah Fitchett
Rob beat me to it, but here's an update regarding nicknames and pseudonyms on Google+: https://plus.google.com/b... And guys, thanks for all the feedback. You know I care deeply about you and I see every comment.
- Louis Gray
I'm actually giving G+ another go this week. It was falling a little flat for me at first and I was getting hit a little too hard by spamtastic followers and trolls. I'll be trying engage more.
- Eric
Yeah, what WarLord said. That new policy is still pretty bad. (and for me, this is more principle than anything else as I don't personally use pseudonyms on social networks.)
- Andrew C (✓)
Honestly, I've just not been that motivated to make the big move. I have some interactions on G+, but most of the people I still interact with online are on FF. There are a few that have moved and I missed them. However, I can only keep up with so many networks.
- Jyl BlueBott
That name policy is a freakin' joke. My account is 'faboo mama'. That's what many people know me as. Most don't even know my first name even though it's there. I don't think I've been referenced as such in print, it sure as hell isn't on my DL, not that I'd even consider giving friggin' Google my DL, EVER. and there's the weasely "meaningful" followers. Pass.
- Anika
the fact that it is so hard to actually publish something on G+ - the +1 button doesnt publish, just lists it somewhere else. Cant share from a webpage directly or from my rss reader. And nobody there cares anyway, or at least it seems to lack conversation wherever i look. People post, and people comment as a way to stake presence and links, not to converse.
- Iphigenie
Don't you hate it when you record a live sporting event (say... football) and you tell TiVo to record an additional 60 minutes, and then you go the whole afternoon avoiding the score... and then the game goes into overtime... and then some dude fumbles, and you know what's going to happen, and it's bad... and then the TiVo recording stops? Yeah.
I had that discussion w/co-workers last week. That's when I appreciate my old VCR. Pop in an 8-hour tape, tell it to record and don't worry about it. Unless the game goes into, like, 17 overtimes.
- vicster
Ironically, that same thing happened to me - but I was watching about 1/2 behind real time and was saved by the rolling buffer. Not that I wanted to see that ending anyway, but....
- Ken Gidley
It seems like a really intelligent system could notice that an abnormally large number of people watching the sporting event live are staying on the channel, and that could be a cue that the event is ongoing, and that it could tell those devices recording the event to continue recording some extra time if there isn't a conflicting scheduled recording. We have the technology...
- Kevin Fox
I generally go 3 hours extra for sporting events. My biggest problem with sporting events and TiVo has been turning on the TV to start watching the game 2 hours in and having the Picture In Picture (with sound) give away the current score. :-(
- Brian Johns
Brian, that's my biggest concern with upgrading my TiVo. I never want to see live TV except when I explicitly ask for it. I hate that my TiVo times out to live TV, and I'd dislike it even more if it 'helpfully' showed me PIP live TV when I try and use core TiVo functions.
- Kevin Fox
from iPhone
There's PiP?? I want to enable that when I'm in Settings -> Channels -> Channels you recieve.
- Amit Patel
Amit, the new Premiere units have PIP (if you're in HDUI mode). To enable or disable PIP on a Premiere, use TiVo Central -> Settings & Messages -> Settings -> Displays -> Video Window -> Off. (Or, you can simply toggle it on/off by hitting the Slow Motion button.)
- Stephen Mack
Ooh, interesting. I have mostly TiVo 2s and one TiVo 3 but I might get a Premiere one of these days.
- Amit Patel