Well, sites like Twitter still have about a year before true mainstream acceptance. Something like FriendFeed is probably 18 months or more from mainstream acceptance, and it would need more filtering capabilities to get there. Video on a mobile is probably a little closer, but not sure about the publishing aspect. - Rob Diana
Rob: try again. Blogging still is barely mainstream and it's been out for 10 years now. Facebook just got to 110 million users. How many people in the world are there? Six billion? Funny how we consider things "mainstream." - Robert Scoble
Well, if 110 million users isn't "mainstream", then yes, I will change my estimates :) I think twitter (or microblogging) will go mainstream soon because it is so simple, and IM-like. "Real" blogging requires too much work and thought, and that is probably why it took so long. That and the tools have not been around for the full 10 years. Not sure when things like LiveJournal and WordPress really came about. - Rob Diana
LiveJournal was out in late 90s, I remember seeing it 2001 and I'm sure I wasn't early. WordPress came out shortly after that. Probably around 2003. Yeah, microblogging will probably be more popular than regular blogging. I'd agree with that, but it has a long way to go. Twitter has, what, a million or two users, not all of whom are active? - Robert Scoble
What's amazing is it seems that you guys beat the mainstream by days, not hours- for example, Andreesen/Facebook - Dino
LiveJournal, early 1990s? Try 1999, as late 1990s as it gets. ;o) - Fraser Smith
Sorry, I meant early 2000's. I'll fix that. - Robert Scoble
you are talking about heads down researchers from the nihs hp though robert :-p - mike "glemak" dunn
LiveJournal is huge in Russia, apparently. And the biggest search engine there is something called Yonex (useless info 4 the day alert) - john conroy
For me, I've gotten used to think in terms of mainstream for techies and mainstream for the general public. - Joey Lo
@Rob Diana - You're wrong - FriendFeed does not need more filtering to become mainstream. Mainstream users don't filter, they expect it to work and that's it. You're also wrong about FriendFeed becoming mainstream anytime soon. People don't use many services, therefore FF is useless for them. Not even blogging is mainstream, and probably won't ever at a scale like Facebook. Most people haven't got interesting things to tell. - sebmos
I still find it amazing that people continue with Twitter (myself included) despite it's hilariously fragile state. - Jonathan Beckett
I'm no techie, compared to some of the folks around FF anyway. I know "just enough to be dangerous," according to my wife's IT dept. But I rely on posts from folks like Scoble et al. to expand my knowledge of the tech world. FF is invaluable for that, but even though I signed up for it months ago, I didn't really start using it until the last 4-6 weeks. I think new sites and apps take a little getting used to, esp. if you're not really "out there" in terms of knowledge and know-how. - steplow is Steve
Interesting tweet Scoble. I wish I could get unlimited data here in Canada so I could Qik. - Granteezy
This says more about the researchers being out of touch than it does about social media. - Sam Pullara
@robertscoble - what you say about mainstream is exactly how I've tried making the point before that not only are services like Facebook reaching less than 10% of active Internet users, but most the world still needs to get connected! when people talk about Twitter going mainstream I want to scream "learn your orders of magnitude" - Julian Baldwin
I use my father and brother as 'touchstones' for mainstream. My dad, at 71 is an attorney who uses the computer for work only, doesn't regularly use email for personal reasons (but does for work) and can use the internet (he tracked down my twitter!) but doesn't see the need for it. My brother, at 44 is a judge who majored in CS & Psych in undergrad. He's a computer geek, but more into gaming than SocMed. They keep me from buying into the 'echo chamber' - yes, we are that far ahead. - Lucretia Pruitt
The Fins sold us the phones. So maybe we're not that far ahead. :-) - Dave Hussein Winer
I agree with Scoble,blogs, twitter, friendfeed, plurks won't be mainstream for a while. There is actual nothing in them that would give people a reason to hop on them in droves. E-mail yes, IM yes, static webpages, forums yes. And that's all. - Roland Hesz
I asked a bunch of people I work with regularly about Friendfeed and 1 person knew what it was. I work in the web industry. Maybe I was asking the wrong people. - Kate
Our focus is different. I don't know jack about sustainable architecture, for instance, but my friends who don't give a damn about blogs are all about green energy, sustainable city planning, etc. That's something that a lot of people on FriendFeed don't understand or care about. "Ahead" is a relative term. My dad is on FriendFeed, but he just sees it as another way to follow what I'm doing. My mom barely knows how to use e-mail, but she knows all about advances in wound care that I don't understand, but will be increasingly important as the population gets older and increasingly diabetic. Different strokes for different folks. - Steve Lynch
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I like what Steve Lynch replied, re. his friends/other people having a different focus, especially the bit re. his friends "who don't give a damn about blogs are all about green energy, sustainable city planning, etc. That's something that a lot of people on FriendFeed don't understand or care about. 'Ahead' is a relative term." I see that in my own communities of interest, where people are comfortable with forums (ew!), have made tentative forays into FB, but don't get blogs, much less Twitter, FF, etc. - Yule Heibel
@steve - that's a well stated point..I need to spend more time thinking about my understanding of mainstream and how it applies to sub-populations - Julian Baldwin
This discussion is a bit self-congratulatory, wouldn't you say? I would frame it a different way: how out of touch with the mainstream are we? The answer, of course, is very much so. Another question: are we out here on the cutting edge or just hunting snipe? - Juan Aguilar
I doubt Twitter will ever go "mainstream" if we define mainstream as a majority of the people who are online via computers or cellphones. Blogs, wikis, RSS, none of that is mainstream. Browsing, email, SMS...those are mainstream. - wrecks
now that it is mentioned, SMS reached mainstream pretty quick. - Ruben Llibre
@Jua Aguilar Hunting snipe. It's not in any way a cutting edge. It's just a way to pass time. - Roland Hesz
@wrecks: Good point. Maybe it would be better to talk about functionality rather than platforms, then. I'd say that social networking and IM are mainstream. I think real-time video on cellphones (for example) could go mainstream in a few years, but it wouldn't necessarily mean that "Qik" goes mainstream. I think wiki-like functionality will become more common... because it is very convenient. I think the functionality of a lot of Web 2.0 apps will be incorporated into mainstream devices, which is how it will become mainstream.... Torrents and Mp3 sharing was once for tech-heads only.... - Steve Lynch
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Lots a of great points, regarding Robert's original post I think that online video is finally taking off in a big way thanks to YouTube and that speaks more to the mainstream than any of the social applications we use to create and share content and conversation. Live mobile video broadcasting is still relatively new but video chat with Skype seems to be reaching a mainstream audience thanks to Oprah using it on her show and recent New Earth web casts. How much does the generation gap play into this? - Larry Kless
I just started work at fav.or.it, Nick is working to bring at least blog reading and following to the masses. but its hard work. - Tim Hawkins
R U KIDDING ME!!!!! OMG no wonder HP is not in touch anymore..dang! - Susan Beebe
it was invite only last time i checked. it is superior to twitter in nearly every way, except the community. I doubt it ever will compete with friendfeed... i suspect google has bigger plans for it. - David Petar Novakovic
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Why the answer to both questions isn't positive is a question that deeply puzzles me... - Rubin Sfadj
It's still in beta and invite only. I just got in there and it seems a lot better than Twitter. It also in some ways reminds me of friendfeed although friendfeed has som unique features Jaiku doesn't seem to have. - Rutger Blom
Does Jaiku require passwords for your added services? - Cyvros/fyc
Jaiku has lost momentum since last year - they where ahead but missed to go public and advance.... now i don´t see any chance for them to compete other then integrating fully into gmail :-) - Dieter Schwarz
Cyvros/fyc, Jaiku is using the public RSS-feed of the different services instead of username/password. - Rutger Blom
@Rutger: Ah, thanks. I remembered hearing about a lifestreaming service that needed username/password and thought it might've been Jaiku. - Cyvros/fyc
I've been using it, I like it, but not many people I know are on it. Apparently it's only being worked on as a 20% project, see this comment on my site: http://blog.slaven.net.au/arch... - Glenn Slaven
I really like it but, as others have said, there's not many people on there. Need a way to invite all my Twitter contacts onto it. I'm surprised Google haven't integrated it - would seem such an easy thing to do. - David Sim
I feel that Twitter is lossing more users to Friendfeed then to Jaiku. Jaiku is nice FF is better. Twitter has the best user base. The question will be will they shape up before they are loosing too many users. - Erno Hannink
I was really impressed with Jaiku when it first came out, but it didn't attract the crowds that Twitter had. I left. They were moving in an interesting "presence awareness" direction with mobile phone integration. Sort of a Twitter meets Brightkite arrangement. Lots of contact integration. These neat mobile things only worked on the Nokia phones though. Android integration for sure. - Sean Brady
Same as Pownce, there is 'nobody' there :( - Alex Barredo
I'm not sure what it would give me that I don't already get, for free, from Google Apps for my domain. It might be a bit slicker in the interface but that's not worth the extra cost....via feedalizr - Fraser Smith
I agree with Fraser on this one, Not really seeing the benefits. Although toss in Itunes storage and download with this and I would try it!. - Earl E Morningwood
I think its selling point is the push service to iPhone though. So it really depends if you think push service worth the price than syncing it thru USB? - Leon Ho
I don't have an iPhone and, as all my e-mail is web based (GAfyD), I don't think I'd benefit anyway. - Fraser Smith
i hope the push really works and is not as lame as the yahoo quasi-push. it's about time apple did something for .mac folks as this service has been the neglected step child for way too long. - sean808080
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The demo of push service looks pretty promising, but never know until we test the actual product. - Leon Ho
If it's true push amongst every device in my home and abroad, then that alone is worth the price for me. - Joel Falconer
I'd like to know if more than one iPhone can "sync" to the same account. - Ben Vaughan
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With no iPhone, what's in it for us desktop users? - Paul W. Swansen
With regards to fixing .Mac it is a step in the right direct, but not far enough to get lots of people to buy in. I look at it as a very expensive way to wirelessy sync my contacts. - Chris McLean
well, mobileme got me thinking about taking the one-year-subscription - it closes the gap between my mac and "regular pcs" - Christoph Bauer
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I think this is a ground breaking service... 3 years ago. LIttle benefit unless you have an iPhone and even then i don't know. - Chris McLean
If you are happy using google apps there is no point. However if you are a small business and offline access is critical e.g. planes and trains then this is a simple alterative to exchange for an individual user. If apple add sharing of calendars/contacts plus private/public event invites then it could beat exchange for small businesses that use macs and iphones. - Adrian
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I am very much hoping this is going to be Exchange Lite for our small project team...fingers crossed. - John Samuelson
I am not planning to rush out and get the 3G iPhone. I am happy with my first gen and looking forward to the 2.0 software. I will wait for the next update, maybe it will have 32GB. - Rajiv Doshi
i actually don't care about any of they OS and hardware updates. All I *really* care about is well the MobileMe integration is. If I can get wireless calendar sync, then I'm a happy camper. - George Lee
He comments home users will have to pay $10 more, but it's actually $15. Text messaging is no longer bundled, last I read, so you'll have to pay $5 more (on TOP of the $10 for 3G service) just to get the same 200 text messages you're getting now. So instead of an extra $240 over two years for the service, you're looking at an extra $360. Just so you can save $200 on the initial buy. I'm pretty sure I'm NOT "upgrading." - Kevin Hessel
Well, the device is surely worth it, if there weren't the rather expensive data plans. But i'll wait until later this year what apps will show up in the App Store. - derlinzer
Except for IM and cut&paste, the iPhone 3g is better in almost every way than my SK3, which is why I am going to switch to it. I just can't wait for android to finally materialize a phone. - Phil Glockner
I currently have an old Sprint "mini-brick" with no Internet access. I need a new phone, so the iPhone looks pretty good to me. - Hutch Carpenter
I'm in for the integrated GPS... the first app I'll be buying is TomTom's navigator. - Roger Benningfield
At first I was with Andy, no video no way. After watching the full keynote, I will upgrade for the MobileMe and the App store. I really think the apps are going to be marvelous and only get better with time. - Jennifer Van Grove
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I'm very disappointed with the new iPhone from what I've read about it so far. IMHO if you already have an iPhone then there are not enough improvements to warrant ditching it and purchasing an iPhone 1.5. If you don't have an iPhone already then it is worth looking into. For those who need a good camera on their phone - avoid the iPhone as it has a terrible camera - and there seems to be no improvement for iPhone 1.5. - Joe Breen
Joe - where the iphone camera is concerned.. you obviously haven't seen many pictures taken with a sidekick 3. they are seriously crappy. - Phil Glockner
Jennifer - I'm convinced that hold on video support is purely so MobileMe can establish it's own video-uploading community and then, i wouldn't be surprised if Apple goes as far as to ONLY allow video from iPhone to upload to the proprietary MobileMe depository. - Andy Sternberg
Or try the photo output from a Treo. You fancy-pants iPhone early adopters don't know how good you've got it! :D - Roger Benningfield
Sadly, I've decided that I can't justify it over my current setup. As much as I want to, the lack of 5MP or better camera is disappointing. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
J. Phil ... no haven't seen shots from a sidekick 3. They must be pretty bad if worse than iPhone 1.0. :/ I think the best news coming from WWDC last Monday was the MobileMe idea and applications. That is going to be pretty sweet. And I guess is Apple's way of bringing Enterprise onto using the iPhone so they (Enterprises) won't have to use iTunes on Windows to sync. - Joe Breen
J. Phil: Yup, fairly poor quality. It's a shame with the iPhone ... Apple are so close to having an unbeatable device ... they just need to add about 10 things and nothing will come close to it. 1 other thing I would add to the list of 7 above is being able to lock whether the screen flips or not ... sometimes you don't want it to flip. :) - Joe Breen
Heck why not...better iPhone, half the price...what's not to like? Well I guess the lack of a real keyboard, AT&T, and... - John
I think 3G and the GPS make it a worthy upgrade. Plus I can give this old one to my wife. - Joe Mac Stevens
Absolutely! With the 1st iPhone, it was only for people with "money is no object" mentality. The new iPhone is now priced right and very affordable. The more reason we should all buy one. - 4dluvofmen
the iPhone's camera sucks less than about 95% of cell phones - Mike Hussein Cohen
There aren't very many compelling reasons to get me to upgrade right now. I think I'll hold out for 3.0. - Brandon Wood
Definitely not standing in line as I did for the first one. I could care less about GPS. 3 G, though is good. - Francine Hardaway
Definitely. The original allowed me to get rid of my iPod. Now I can get rid of my tomtom. :-) I am waiting for the iPhone-Toothbrush next year. - giovanni gallucci
“Seesmic, Friendfeed and Twitter next to each other in a test version of Twhirl. Adding tons of Friendfeed experience improvements in there, Marco rocks.”
Is twitter's api actually back up at 50 req/hr? - Shawn Farner
The old Twhirl works for me in linux for me, it just won't remember my password. - Daniel E. Renfer
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Yes Marco does. Twhirl is becoming my info hub. And if Twitter dies, who cares I'm sure Pownce, Jaiku or whatever could be swapped in - Tris Hussey
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“Why don't they broadcast Apple keynotes on MSNBC or CNN? All this makeshift jury-rigged michegas. It was cute for a while. But this has been going on for 25 years!”
It would be like an hour long Apple commercial. I'd rather Apple just broadcast it in HD on their on site. - Tad - the Meme Maker
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yes, this just proves that MSNBC and CNN are becoming more and more irrelevant each day - Lasse
It all about the spin apple has the charisma but not the spin. politics seems to be much more fun for these networks - Fuad Arshad
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thought that too. on the iphonealley wwdc live audio stream there are already over 10.000 viewers... - Alexander Marktl
Okay so they can rent the Discovery Channel. But this is silly. It's 2008. I have a slingplayer on my second Mac screen. I have an HD antenna out the window. I have two kinds of Internet. And we're using tin cans with string to communicate. It's feudal. - Dave Hussein Winer
Totally agreed with you there Dave. At the very least they could make a killing with Geek Pay per View. :D I'd guess most of us here on FriendFeed might be willing to fork over $5 to watch the KeyNote live as it happens. - Tad - the Meme Maker
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I'd rather watch it streamed live on the Apple site than all this faffing around. You could watch, point, click, buy and go pick up in minutes. - Sally Church
Serious - who cares about the presidency? iPhone! - Soulhuntre
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I'm not paying $5 to watch an infomercial. What's next -- pay $20 to watch a show about Ginzu knives or how cat food is inspired by Fine French Cooking. Now I might pay $5 for a half-hour commercial for Beggin Bits (dogs don't know it's not bacon) or 2 hours with the Comcast turtles. - Dave Hussein Winer
Geez Soulhuntre give Dave break ;-) - he has generally been posting non stop about Obama vs Clinton vs McClain for many months. One slip up and you are all over him ;-) - Brian Sullivan
It would be nothing more than an Apple commercial. Plus in the grand scheme of things, Apple is still just a electronics company. The majority of the world could care less what swami Steve has to say. - Ben Burris
WWDC costs money to go. One of the reasons to go is to see the keynote live. QED - Sam Pullara
I think the difference on the whole new network aspect of FriendFeed is that you meet people over ideas. When you were in school, that was the relevant basis for your social networks. Facebook leverages that, but those old school ties fade over time. LinkedIn is great at staying current on your professional ties (which really does have its own value). But it lacks the interactive experience that helps you find others sharing your interests. - Hutch Carpenter
Always the inevitable question though -- how will this thing make money?. A broken record no doubt but I think key to online social support "business" -- nobody seems to have found a way to make money(selling to Yahoo/Google/Microsoft doesn't count). The first to find an answer will probalby be the winner overall - Brian Sullivan
Great questions! It takes a smart person to ask the right questions. Regarding FriendFeed, one thing that differentiates it compared to Google is that Google is for the masses and FriendFeed is for information-hungry people. Still, that market might be 10% of worldwide internet users, or more than 100M. Plenty of room for FriendFeed to grow without being mass market. - Mike Reynolds
@ben, should have qualified more really...I meant what happened when I joined myspace, then facebook, etc...it was just a case of "ok, let's grab all of my friends from this network, and put them onto this *new* network...... - Iain Baker
Great questions I sure hope they can define a long term strategy that allows them to continue to develop the service. I find it my second most popular destination behind GReader. - Jon Erickson
I liked the rooms idea. Maybe Friendfeed could make money that way. All I need from FF right now is adding a "filter by service" box (I'm using the a Greasemonkey script) and clustering the same links shared by different friends. - Alejandro S.
So I figured I'd take advantage of Plurk's Twitter import feature; worked great, found a bunch of people I already follow on Twitter (61 to be exact). Except I'm not allowed to import them all, only 50 of them. Because the timeline would be too crowded. Sacrificing user experience to preserve a design aesthetic is "worst mistake you can ever make as a web developer" #1. - Mark Trapp
Had the same issue Mark. Just ran it twice. Got them all in. - Robert Sanzalone
So Scoble would have to run that import, um... 400 times or so if all his contacts were to switch to Plurk? Yes, fail. - Cyndy
plus you have to select them one by one, a bit too much clicking - Dobromir Hadzhiev
They've said it many times Plurk is not designed to be like Twitter. They've designed it to communicate with your close friends, everyone else you should become their fan. They constanly discourage adding hundreds and hundreds of friends and your "karma" is not rewarded for it. I got clarification on this the other day. It's part of the system design to use it this way. Right? Wrong? Who knows, but that's how it is. - Bwana McCall
Sure Bwana, but providing tools like this only serve to confuse that message. Providing an importer from Twitter says "We want you to use us instead of Twitter, look how easy it is to migrate over!" only to tell the user "whoa, not so fast, only 50 people! We know best for you!" and, to top it all off, it's not even enforced; as Robert points out, if I go back do the import over, I can add another 50 from my list, which seems to fly in the face of why they're saying there's a 50 person limit. - Mark Trapp
Good software solves a need. Great software solves a need and backs the hell off. Let me use Plurk the way I want, don't tell me what's best for me. I know what's best for me. You gave me a tool to import my Twitter contacts? Awesome, let me import all of them. Not 50. Not 50 at a time. All of them. - Mark Trapp
If it were enforced, then I'd see your point, but it's not. It's a way of saying, you'll be sorry if you do this. Look at the flip side, what if they allowed you to do it and your timeline becomes severely cluttered? I'm 80% sure some would complain that "you should have warned us about this". I seriously doubt they are taking the attitude "we know what's best for you", it's more of a "if you do this action, here are the consequences..here's a slight hinderance to bring the point home". - Bwana McCall
Bottom line is, this feature was put there because of Twitter's problems, but now this limitation is there to preserve the intended experience. Some would say they are stupid for not capitalizing on Twitter's woes, which is what they're doing. Some would say, don't put the feature there if you don't want it used like Twitter, which is what you're saying. It's a compromise on their part which I don't think will make or break the service. - Bwana McCall
Except there's no option to say "I got it, now let me do it anyway." You just get the error message. The only way to add more people is to more or less randomly try to import again, where it happily lets you import another 50. No warning there saying "Hey, you already have more than 50 people on your list, you shouldn't enter any more." No, the way this is handled only serves to confuse and infuriate people. - Mark Trapp
Twitter wasn't designed to be used like it's being used either. I don't like Plurk, personally, but find it hilarious to say "You don't WANT more than 50 users imported. It will TOTALLY wreck our design!" Is it an app or is it performance art? - Cyndy
People don't have time to figure out what the developer's intentions are. If they can't use a website in an expected manner, they leave. Providing this feature in the way in which it was provided tells people "we don't want you here." Sure, they are never going to be Twitter, but doing things like this (and the big disclaimer telling everyone to only add your very closest friends) means they will never catch on, even by themselves. - Mark Trapp
Twitter's simplicity allows for flexibility. Plurk's timeline does not. It's a warning, nothing more, nothing less. If it bothers you that much, there's plenty more in there that I'm sure will deter you from using it. - Bwana McCall
Bwana, it's not a warning. If there was a banner at the top of the import saying "We strongly discourage adding more than 50 people" before adding people, that'd be a warning. It outright refuses to add more than 50 people, and provides no recourse. Only people who thought "what the hey, let me try it again" were able to do it again, again with no warning. This is stupid how they implemented this. - Mark Trapp
Mark, I don't think this UI defect is enough to make or break the system. There are way too many other factors to consider. Many other services don't even offer a Twitter import, let alone hooks into Twitter's service. If I were writing this defect as a tester, I would mark as a medium priority only because it's a barrier to entry. It's a low priority since it' a generally a one time function. - Bwana McCall
Bwana, I realize now that my screenshot is a bit misleading. The banner at the top of it only shows up AFTER you try to import more than 50 people. It's not there before. - Mark Trapp
Ok Mark, you've made your point that it's stupid to implement it this way. So are you going to submit it as feedback to Plurk? :) - Bwana McCall
Bwana, the apparent impetus for a feature like this, based on the available information, is to preserve the design aesthetic of the site. "It'd be too crowded!" There are a few things you can sacrifice usability for: technical limitations and functional requirements are two of them. But to sacrifice it for your design is insane. They either need to figure out how to handle more than 50 people, or make a cogent case for why more than 50 people is unnecessary. - Mark Trapp
Bwana, that brings up a whole other issue I have with Plurk. Where are the developers? - Mark Trapp
I used the faceless contact form pointing to the discussion, as well. I guess there's no @reply notification or direct messaging feature in Plurk, too? - Mark Trapp
yes there is a direct message feature, (called a private plurk) however, you must be friends with the individual from what I recall. - Bwana McCall
Nice, if I click on your link, then click "My Profile," it brings me to your profile. - Mark Trapp
I can only add so many new things to my "brain feed-stream". Unfortunately, I deem Plurk a FAIL. Just too juvenile a feel. I need no more MySpace clones. - Mathew A. Koeneker
Hi guys. I am a developer of Plurk and I want to share some input on this. The major factor for this limit is performance - fetching and inserting timelines from hundreds/thousands of users isn't cheap and would be very costly. The second major factor is that following a lot of people on Plurk will have penalties as we don't have all the timeline filters developed. But we do listen to user feedback and we have raised the limit to 100.
This limit may be removed in the near future, depends on performance and the power of filtering. - Amir Salihefendic
Sigh. Now you know why I love FriendFeed so much. No limits. Always fast. I reload the page hundreds of times a day. - Robert Scoble
Oh, and I already have more than 800 friends on Plurk (compared to more than 12,000 followers on FriendFeed and 26,000+ on Twitter) and I only manually added a handful. - Robert Scoble
Robert, FriendFeed does have limits. Both you and I ran into one of them. There was a comment limit which caused commenting to fail after a certain point. FriendFeed raised the limit once we brought it to their attention. Come on now, FriendFeed isn't THAT perfect. - Bwana McCall
Bwana: that limit didn't hurt and was, like you said, instantly raised. I haven't hit it since despite thousands of comments. - Robert Scoble
plurk needs an api stat, i doubt people want to use it as there sole twitter like interface - Chris Jones
Plurk, Jaiku, Pownce, Twitter all these services have SIMILAR goals. Again this reinforces to me that microblogging is becoming the "new email" (aka killer app). Email, IM, microblogging three great ways to communicate. Perhaps FriendFeed will be the savior for all of them. But FF would have to also be able to post freely to them as well. So, FF becomes something like a service and you use apps like Twhirl, etc to interact with your stream. - Tris Hussey
The best way to use Plurk is head over to the mobile interface at http://www.plurk.com/m - Personally, I hate the regular UI...its like playing Defender. - Delete Me
Leave it up to Robert to jinx FriendFeed :) It's been pretty slow today and I'm getting sporadic Service Unavailable errors. No system is perfect :) - Bwana McCall
Or maybe because the UI is annoying as hell... - Eric Florenzano
My guess why it wont catch on....Because we don't need it. - Gadiel Rivera
I submit Plurk's not disruptive enough. Twitter's *different*. FriendFeed, too. Plurk...not so much. - Brent Newhall
That limitation can be fixed, fixing Twitter's downtime problem is another story as we all know. - Bob Ngu
I don't know about it being delayed that long but it doesn't make sense that they would release it on monday. It would overshadow the rest of WWDC.....but who knows<shrug>. - m.0
My source says it is wrong, but my source isn't very good, so... - Robert Scoble
I wish I knew this was true, so I could buy a bunch of AAPL put options Monday morning... ;) - Anthony Citrano
Yea your source is wrong. I find it hard to believe that iphone is running a slow Arm7 Core. The touch capabilities require some decent processing power along with safari page rendering and video playback. I am quite sure that Apple is using something like the Arm11 core. - Akshay Dodeja
Well, like I said, my source isn't very good and I've learned that Wikipedia is generally better than sources that aren't very reliable. :-) - Robert Scoble
then the world will end as we know it :) - Nigel Cooke
Hordes of fanboys will commit ritual suicide or murder I'm guessing? - Mo Kargas
99.9999% of the word won't care - and the rabiot fanbois will panic. - Soulhuntre
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Thanks for taking the bullet too and offering to buy one right away, haha. You're always a trooper! - Mike Lewis
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All the people, like me, who preemptively sold their 1st gen iPhones this weekend will be pretty pissed - Nicholas Molnar
I've just received news that the 2nd gen iPhone will be available in Spain next week so... - Dennis Howlett
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I've said it many times, Apple never promised a new phone for WWDC. People make up stuff so much, that it becomes fact. - Bwana McCall
My bet is they have some in stock at major cities but will take 2 weeks to fully saturate the supply chain. - Caleb Elston
m.0; that's the WWDC modus operandi. Steve Jobs intros new and exciting technology on day 1, and the rest of the week is for developers to interact with Apple people who sell Apple's message and positioning to them about the new product. The official reason for going to WWDC is for developers to be able to interact with Apple directly about how to develop for Apple's latest offerings. - Mark Trapp
I don't care if they ship it on Monday. I DO care if there isn't one available with 3G with my name on it 6/22. - Cyndy
at amazon will not go down on Monday :)- - Peter Dawson
Amazon doesn't sell the iPhone. No worries. - Cyndy
something must come out this month. remember all the AT&T emails about not taking vcataions......via feedalizr - Shahar Nechmad
I would be surprised if AT&T has a clue of what's going to happen :) They're probably doing the same thing as the launch. - Bwana McCall
If no new iPhone, I predict 500,000 blog posts on how foolish we all are :) - Mike Reynolds
If iPhone is not announced tomorrow it will be a sad day for apple fans. Oh and stockholders too. - Akshay Dodeja
I'm just waiting to see what the real specs of the new iphone are. Don't anticipate actually buying one, but may be tempted by the right mix of features. - Sandra Fernandez
last we heard that at&t employee no vacation window was still June 15 - July 12th, so i wouldn't expect something to be released immediately, but within a few weeks. unless apple is going to sell it out of its stores first then release to at&t in that timeframe, which is possible I guess. - MG Siegler
Many people will be hurting other people. :) - Jason Kaneshiro
the gates of hell will open and lucifer himself will be let free - David Jacobs
Fred describes why he's stuck with his current blog URL for the long haul. - Hutch Carpenter
As a newbie blogger, I am taking the easy way and just keeping the google juice flowing into blogger. As I get better at this, I hope, I will then worry about portability. - Mathew A. Koeneker
