There was a lot of chatter about the future of FriendFeed this weekend. The short answer is that the team is working on a couple of longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world. Transformation is not the end. Consider this the chrysalis stage -- if all goes well, a beautiful butterfly will emerge :)
Noticed the "leaked" Facebook UI screenshots and the groups blog post today, and both seem FriendFeed inspired: nice to see Facebook trying to bring the stuff we like about FriendFeed to a larger audience.
- Mark Trapp
Devil is in the details: "couple of longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" == Facebook projects with FriendFeed-like elements == no work on FriendFeed itself.
- EricaJoy
Paul, FriendFeed rocks as Gmail does ;)
- Orlando Pozo
Thanks for the update, the more you communicate, the less we have to speculate.
- Peter Hoffmann
The fact that these improvements are coming to Facebook and not friendfeed will not sway those who like friendfeed but dislike Facebook.
- Alex Scoble
Thank you Paul for bringing "FriendFeed goodness to the larger world" -- THAT sounds awesome!!
- Susan Beebe
But we knew this was the deal the moment the full details of the purchase of friendfeed by Facebook became public.
- Alex Scoble
Yeah, I don't give a crap about Facebook. I want to know about FriendFeed.
- Rochelle
Is it the interface people dislike about Facebook or the people they're friends with on Facebook? I can imagine being able to import all your subscribers from FriendFeed and have them in a separate group that doesn't interact with other groups you may have on Facebook.
- Cristo
sadly, no one with any power seems to care about FF anymore.
- Joe Silence
I'm glad to hear this. I prefer FriendFeed to Facebook any day of the week.
- Nathan Clayton
And the answer for me would be some of both. I have real life friends and family that I don't necessarily want to get into the same discussions with as I do with people here.
- Cristo
And there's your answer, Rochelle. friendwho? friendwhat now? Oh, you mean Facebook! (No I mean friendfeed) friendwho? (rinse, lather, repeat)
- Alex Scoble
there are some ui differences (and i tend to prefer friendfeed in those cases) but i have friended quite a few FF people in FB and the experience is remarkably similar in many ways.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Another big difference is I don't think you get the same FOAF interaction on Facebook as on FriendFeed.
- Cristo
I like the "chrysalis stage" analogy - sounds cool.... goes an looks for FF goodness butterfly!
- Susan Beebe
Good to know that FriendFeed still has some fight left; hope that translates into a viable and sustainable platform/utility for the masses (though I quite enjoy the close-knit, uber-geek community that it's become).
- Christian
I don't like the chrysalis analogy. The butterfly emerges from the chrysalis and buggers off leaving the shell. Of course, it might then also get eaten by a bird. Tweet, tweet.
- Mark H
Note that he didn't say that FriendFeed.com was going away, only that they're diverted to bringing it to a much larger audience
- Jesse Stay
The problem is Scoble (Robert) and MG both just sent half of FriendFeed away so most of those that would benefit from this announcement won't even see it.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I didn't get that from Paul's comment. I read that some of the friendfeed ideas will be going into FB. I like that idea, but I still prefer FF to FB because of the different conversations here that I don't have with friends and family.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Yeah, Paul's statement won't help friendfeed. This will just either give people more reason to go to Facebook or find another service entirely.
- Alex Scoble
What Alex and Rochelle said. This sounds like a "we're bringing FF to Facebook" announcement, and I don't give a damn about Facebook. I want to know what's happening HERE. And Cristo, both, but more the interface. I care about the friends I've made here, and I'm connected with many of them now on Facebook as well, but I prefer to interact with them here, because I like it better.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Travis, he didn't say that - you read that, but he didn't say that. I'm willing to bet FriendFeed.com will not go away.
- Jesse Stay
As much as I agree about Scoble and MG driving people away, they have also effectively flush out some comment from the FF team.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Travis, there are better ways of getting the FF team to comment
- Jesse Stay
I think it's the opposite, the butterfly is becoming this crawling caterpillar :)
- Jorge Escobar
Oh I don't think FF will go away, and damn will hope it doesn't either!
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
What I do see is more Facebook integrated into the FriendFeed environment - I think that's a good thing
- Jesse Stay
The critical difference between Facebook and FriendFeed is the social model. With Facebook as it is today, you need to be mutual friends to see each others content. There is a "fan page" model but it is oriented toward "publishing/celebrity" rather than information sharing. FriendFeed has an asymmetric model like Twitter, where you can easily discover someone's content without any "friend" gesture whatsoever, and you can follow without friending. This makes the converation more discoverable, and useful..
- Adina Levin
If the integration is bringing public/asymmetric to Facebook, then it will be very useful indeed. If the integration is to add FriendFeed-style service integration into the symmetric/private Facebook model, it will be much less useful - it's more of the same - I'll be able to more easily share updates from youtube or last.fm or delicious to my friend network, but be unable to discover new people and infomation.
- Adina Levin
Adina: And unless Facebook goes radically toward that model, it won't suffice for me. I could not care less about their upcoming redesigns.
- Christopher A Carr
@Jesse - I can't see any sign that they are working on FriendFeed at all. All the indications are that the FF team is now working on Facebook, and only Facebook. That's great for Facebook, and I'm sure they will do wonderful work there. But don't delude yourself that FriendFeed is going to get anything more than critical fixes, and maybe the occasional thing done in someone's spare time.
- Nick Lothian
Butterflies look totally different than caterpillars and they also fly away
- Melanie Reed
+100 Adina. The things I like best about FriendFeed (easy content/people discovery, FoaF, asymmetrical following and being followed) are completely opposite to Facebook's core model. That's why as much as people keep talking about Facebook adding FF-like features, I don't see the REAL FF core features making it over, because the mindset is different.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I don't see this announcement as anything new, or as reassuring. We knew from the time of the acquisition that there would be would be some movement of FF capabilities into FB. The real question is whether this means absorption of FF into FB or attracting the FB user base into FF. The comment about "bring[ing] FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" still leaves that question open.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
+1 everything Alex Scoble has said. Friendwhat? What's a feed? Who uses RSS anymore? We've got PubSubWTFOMGBBQ now!
- Mr. Gunn
Nick, Paul just said they're working on other projects right now. That still doesn't mean FriendFeed is going away. I'm not deluding myself at all. I'm telling everyone else they're deluding themselves by assuming it's going away. All the FriendFeed team is still using FriendFeed, and Paul just tried to give us comfort not to worry. For some reason we all don't want to believe him. It's actually kind of amusing.
- Jesse Stay
I wonder what the powers that be mean by "FriendFeedy goodness"? Is it understood what WE like about it vs. FB?
- Amy℠
Paul - Wishing you all the best as you tend your new butterfly garden :) I'll be here to enjoy them!
- Susan Beebe
Jesse: "For some reason we all don't want to believe him." <-- Don't want to believe what? He didn't really say anything.
- Christopher A Carr
This is not the news that Friendfeed fans were looking for.
- Raphael, Raphael
The issue isn't belief that they are going to do something. The question is what they are going to do, and whether that will continue the core value of FriendFeed, which is not just information aggregation but discoverability.
- Adina Levin
I know more about the "Last Days" and heaven than I know about what's going to happen to FriendFeed as we have come to know it than was given in your rather cryptic answer, Paul. :) And while that may not be a fair comparison (God actually gave details and signs), there is something definitely not forthcoming about your response. A person usually withholds details that affect another...
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- Melanie Reed
Melanie, in other words, Paul works for a technology company in Silicon Valley that doesn't disclose future features, products, and services until they are ready.
- Cristo
Hopefully this helps to quiet all of the "friendfeed is dying" talk. Because this thread proves ff is alive and well.
- Garin Kilpatrick
@Jesse - I read it differently to you. To me, Paul is saying "We are taking what we were working towards on FriendFeed, and trying to bring that goodness to a bigger audience". No one is claiming they are going to shut down FF.
- Nick Lothian
@Jesse - Want to make a bet on the number of new features added to FF before the end of the year?
- Nick Lothian
You read my mind. Having seen a few acquisitions, I am wondering if FF staff was told to put the site in bugfix mode.
- EricaJoy
from IM
Cristo, to deliver some straightforward talk is not about giving away company details. If you have a product that is original and stands on its own, you don't need to refer to it as a "butterfly". Many companies even promote something new and upcoming especially to their loyal user base. It gives a signal. A proper one. It tells your users and future users enough so that they can make an informed decision about what they want to do instead of keeping them on tenderhooks
- Melanie Reed
"the chrysalis stage in most butterflies is one in which there is little movement" (via wikipedia) So if you follow that metaphor then eventually FriendFeed will go through a metamorphosis -- that means it's not dead... really how hard can it be to get what he's saying?
- Chris Heath
Its pretty hard :) The burning question is if they are putting FF goodness in to the walled gardens that are Facebook or are they bringing FF openness to FB too. I think the people here want the open forums that are FF not the closed ones that are FB. If FB is going hybrid with both walled gardens and open forums that would be OK too. People on FF want open forums... like Twitter and FF... without the crude interface that is Twitter and without the uncertainty that is FF now.
- Ed Millard
Facebook is gonna have to rip off much of the privacy to maximize their product in the real-time web world. I am going to assume FF goodness is going to be applied to FB :) *crosses fingers*
- Susan Beebe
Just a thought... why does "longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" JUST mean facebook.com? What I get from this is that they are working on a range of things, maybe bringing the FriendFeed sauce to a range of sites, powered by the Facebook back end. Who knows what that means. A FriendFeed service powered by FacebookConnect? Also to......
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- Johnny Worthington
FB needs to leave the privacy for the walled garden and the inner circle. Their current user base likes that. They just need a second feed that is an open forum and you can talk there without it bleeding in to your inner circle feed.
- Ed Millard
Seems like the inner circle is breaking down some now, what with parents and other relatives friending teenagers. I'm guessing the information posted on the walls these days is not as private. Is there a way on FriendFeed to limit what on your wall can be seen by particular people and groups?
- Cristo
Yes, but blocking doesn't work so well since you can just use Chrome's Incognito mode to get around it.
- Alex Scoble
Translation: if you haven't switche to Facebook yet, you better do it now so you can get a good vanity URL.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
I don't know what all the fuss is about. But could we have the long answer too, please?
- Laura Norvig
Although I'm interested, FB != FF. I don't see how the two mix in a way that makes me feel otherwise. Mixing audiences is not a good thing for me (with a few exceptions) and I know others share the same thought.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Did anyone notice that Robert Scoble didn't comment on this thread? What does this mean? Does it mean Robert Scoble won't exist soon? He must be working on a Monday afternoon, no? ;)
- Cristo
Paul, will FF be here in 1 year, 5 years?
- Robert Higgins
Robert, will you and I be alive in 5 years?
- Cristo
Cristo I am funking nobody, I would like Paul to quantify his post. Simple. Will FF be here in 1 year? Will FF be here in 5 years?
- Robert Higgins
Robert, I was trying to make the point that he might not know and can't predict what will happen over time.
- Cristo
IMO friendfeed shoud attract more general audience... Facebook and twitter are having more general users. Most of the FF users are tech bloggers or those who needs aggregation services... I dont know it's just my feeling or not . but this is my impression on FF. but it's great service.. the features are too good... but we will roam were we meet our friends... thats most of the people are into twitter and FB.
- Sarath
Sarath, is there a place you can get away from tech bloggers? :)
- Cristo
Ohhhh a perrrttty butterfly, I'm moist with anticipation.
- sofarsoShawn
Cristo: i almost made the same observation an hour or two ago when i first read through this posting and its comments. I was skimming and kept seeing alex, alex, alex... and thinking to myself... where's Robert!?!
- Chris Heath
@Sarath - I have a lot more in common with the people I've met here on FriendFeed than FB or Twitter. Twitter is too hard to search, and FB (and Twitter to a good extent) is driven by the people you know in RL (and unfortunately I don't have nearly as much in common in RL with my family, co-workers and acquaintences as I do with people scattered all over the world who I have met on FF)....
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
I think that in his cryptic statement he means, and a lot of people here agree with me, that more Facebook's going to get more FriendFeedy. Which doesn't mean that FF still isn't dead or doomed. After all, he works for Facebook now. FriendFeed=open forum, Facebook=walled garden, totally opposite master metaphors; but I don't think Zuckerberg gets it, and FF belongs to Zuckerberg now. So this is really about FB; FF's still in limbo. Still, some FF people friended me at FB, and I put them in a special list.
- Dennis Jernberg
@FF-team keep on rocking :). BTW I also think it's really cool you guys open-sourced tornado.
- alfred westerveld
+1 what alfred said, and good to hear words like "longer-term" & "beautiful" coming straight from The Walrus - keep that vision strong. Hope all goes well for FF team doing some good re-inventing the Octopus Garden of FB - seems you've got your work cut out for you there! It would be so nice if any way to keep a "simple & pure" form of FriendFeed alive (maintained and developed - more open source?) for us to enjoy, but no worries .... you've simultaneously raised the bar and paved the way for the rest!
- Dan Freeman
Good luck with the development Paul! Hopefully Zuck has some positive insight.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Paul: If someone offered me a bag of money to do what you guys did, I would have done exactly the same (probably a lot faster too). However, it would be nice if you spent an hour answering some of the questions here. It might also give people like me a little more faith, in what used to be your primary project; Friendfeed. You made the best platform on the planet - why not use it to let us know what the heck's going on?
- Jim Connolly
I'm assuming that Facebook wants to keep their roadmap quiet. I respect that but leaving you community in the dark for a brand that the applications stand for community building is rather ironic.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
SUPER!! I don't Blame ya 1 Darn bit fer Dumpin' FacePOOP Paul!! ;PPP Wait FacePOOP is the Maggot Stage!! ;))
- Billy Warhol
If I can still have all my friends that I have here on friendfeed and share things with them the exact same way, I don't care what "www" address I have to type in to get it. I just hope i don't have to give up any of FF's awesome features! Thanks for the update Paul!
- David Cook
The problem is I don't know whether to wrote an app on your API or not because i'm not sure whether it will all be dropped in the "transformation". Imagine speding late nights and weekends coding something up only for it to be dropped suddenly. Need a decent long term picture. Looking at Cliqset.
- Steven Livingstone-Pérez
Good point Steven - and one of the reasons many of us are spending so little time developing our networks here.
- Jim Connolly
This is a truly disappointing/concerning post and I think it would have been much better to hold comment until something more tangible could be discussed. Thanks for adding to the confusion/drama Paul.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
I do care about what happens next, but this is the best news of the day nonetheless ! thanks for giving us updates at last ! and I do hope FF will awaken again ! such a great tool, but letdown since the announcement of the buyback by FB
- laetSgo
will I see this post in my "best of week" email from FF?
- Kirill Bolgarov
If Facebook is going to get fixed, please remember that it needs fixing politically, not just technically. It needs to give people the option to open their data to Google - for instance. A walled garden where the walls are fixed in place sucks.
- Tim Tyler
@Paul, or perhaps an Alien will erupt forth from its stomach? (kidding, kidding!)
- j1m
I think something deeper might be happening. Geeks seem to be disappearing off of social networks in droves. I am seeing this trend across all social media but biggest on FriendFeed which definitely was affected by sale to Facebook and it is clear that Facebook doesn't see FriendFeed as important.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
We have a secret underground network we haven't told anyone about yet
- Jesse Stay
@scobleizer the team's been pulled off friendfeed, according to what my sources are telling me
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
friendfeed will gain momentum in the months to come
- Alexander Herrera
@jessestay except my sources told me that Russian Oligarchs and the Taliban were going to buy Facebook and turn it into a botnet to attack the CIA/MI5
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
Alrighty, lets chat on Gmail, Shall we.. and @scobleizer, you will be our mentor ..Deal ? Lets make this happen y'all
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Jesse: I have heard the same thing (that the FriendFeed team is now working full time on Facebook projects) but will interview Paul in next week to find out what he sees happening over next year.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, wait for the interview. My perception is that if they are working on other projects, that's a good thing. They should be working on other projects and learning the Facebook environment. Then, my hope is that they'll be able to take that and integrate it into the FriendFeed environment in a way that respects the FriendFeed culture and brings the good parts of Facebook in as well....
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- Jesse Stay
Prolific, your sources may be right on that one. I've heard similar (the Taliban thing). :-)
- Jesse Stay
@jessestay about the Taliban/oligarchs/botnet takeover?
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
I see no problem currently, but always welcome an open solution. :-) FriendFeed works great for me at the moment.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: sorry. The best we will see is an improved Facebook. I don't think there will be any willingness to come back and work on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, we'll see. I don't think we know that yet. It's still too soon.
- Jesse Stay
Despite the drop in numbers, I'm not seeing a drop in the level (and energy) of engagement here. Additionally, I'm still picking up new subscribers, and finding new and interesting people to subscribe to... For me, Friendfeed is still the most fun place to hang out on, and that's down to the people and conversations I get to engage with - and long may it remain so! :-)
- Andrew Terry
@Sunny and @Prolific - there's an OpenFF group (http://friendfeed.com/openff) looking at writing an open source equivalent, which might be a good place to get involved, rather than reinventing the wheel. It's gone a bit quiet because the key people have been busy with their day jobs, so I'm sure that any contributions will be gladly accepted!
- Andrew Terry
FF needs to be acquired by a non-profit like Wikipedia, and set up as a hub for all things real-time on the web. Which would you rather turn to for real-time information and conversation... Twitter or a properly configured and managed FF topic room/group? "Properly configured and managed" is the key phrase... some group of folks needs to get a reasonable paycheck to find and organize all relevant voices and feeds on the web.
- Christopher Galtenberg
I think I should be worried. My 3 yo just asked me, "Mama, why is that (edit!) man pointing at Barack Obama?" How does my 3yo recognize Obama from behind? o.O
- Admiral Anika
I call Scoble by the nickname "that" all the time
- Steve Rubel
LOL I fixed it. This heat is making me drop words all the time.
- Admiral Anika
People recognize Michael Jordan's silhouette too - remember the cologne logo?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
"How does my 3yo recognize Obama from behind?" - I remember reading about a study that found that you are actuallly more likely to recognize someone from behind.
- John Craft
Barack: Wow, look at the way that guy points. He should be president, not me. Who is he? No, never heard of him. I know an Alex Scoble. Are they related?
- Slappy Line
Social Obama looking at a Social Robert Scoble's picture? This one is great!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
++Adrian Malone "Caption: "Unfollowed. O. Here's Why;______"
- Robert Higgins
Security Briefing: Anything goes bad during your Presidency, well... just "Blame Scoble" -that guy on the screen. Oh yeah, he's a huge geek that tweets so much the Twitter servers crash often, thus the famed "fail whale" image shows up. :) hehe!
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
The Internet Wants YOU. - says Uncle Robert.
- Call me Bronco
AaronStrout: I've only read 1st 10 pages of ex-Forrester/current Aite analyst, @RShevlin's book on Marketing 2.0 but I can already tell it's a MUST read - http://twitter.com/AaronSt...
(1) install All In One Sidebar extension; (2) right-click navigation toolbar to add a new bookmark; (3) add the URL http://friendfeed.com/realtim... and check "open in sidebar"; (4) that's it.
- Neil Saunders
Nice, but I'm with Lars, that smacks of productivity killing ;)
- Daniel Swan
I did the same thing back in October when real time came out so I could compare the two versions of FriendFeed - "standard" mode and "real time" mode. http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Susan Beebe
Can you do this with Chrome as well?
- Aaron Strout
This is great advice on getting a Friendfeed realtime feed in a sidebar. I've just tried installing the All In One sidebar on Flock 2.5, resulting in an error. On Firefox 3.0.11, it works great! I guess it makes sense to run Twitter in my Flock people sidebar, and Friendfeed realtime in my Firefox All In One sidebar.
- David Ing
2. RT smart people's stuff but add onto it with a good comment.
- Robert Scoble
3. If you have something smart to say, say it to someone directly like "Hey @techcrunch you should check out the new Palm Pre."
- Robert Scoble
I now await the inevitable flood of "RTs" of this message ;-)
- Warren
4. Send wine or other bribes to people who make lots of noise.
- Robert Scoble
Sounds like someone's running low on wine :)
- Eric Florenzano
5. If you are friends with a real celebrity bring them around at blogger/twitter parties. Make sure you get them to follow you and remember your name. All good twitterers have iPhones or other phones that they can tweet from.
- Robert Scoble
6. Put your twitter and friendfeed addresses on your business cards.
- Robert Scoble
7. Talk shit about Eric Florenzano. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Ok, well that's *someone's* blog done for tomorrow, then! :)
- WorldofHiglet
8. Follow people back if they add value. 1938media has added 1,000 new followers since he started following everyone back.
- Robert Scoble
What kind of wine goes with bribe? Did you ask GaryVee while in Vegas?
- Dave Cadoff
9. Talk shit about that Scoble dude. Yeah, me. Sometimes it gets a link and a follow. Especially if you teach me something while you are calling me an idiot.
- Robert Scoble
LOL *hands Robert a bottle of wine* Please add the "don't pout or make a twitter fuss when you notice someone drops you. Insecurity isn't a attraction"
- Sprite
10. Be interesting. Craig Newmark got hundreds of follows in first evening (I was the first to follow him) after I tweeted about him. Why? Because he was interesting already.
- Robert Scoble
Remember it's not about the followers - it's about the relationships. Your purpose of having many followers should be so you can build relationships with as many of them as possible.
- Jesse Stay
11. Do something sensational like tatoo your twitter address onto your face.
- Robert Scoble
BTW, (real-life) relationships then bring more followers
- Jesse Stay
Wine? Bribe? Anything will get noticed. Better yet, put a custom label on it and include your Twitter address on it.
- Robert Scoble
Liked for the 'talk shit about Scoble'. Also, Scoble, do you accept Mead?
- Will Higgins™
12. Hang out with Jesse Stay. Better yet, bring him to Twitter's headquarters for an interview (that's what I did and it worked).
- Robert Scoble
I've tried to do everything on this list, but the tattoo isn't going to work. I've already branded my twitter address onto several steers.
- Mike Nayyar
13. Stalk Guy Kawasaki until he calls the cops on you or follows you.
- Robert Scoble
14. Get naked. Take pictures. Include your Twitter address.
- Robert Scoble
er - we've seen most of your body, Robert, so where's *your* tatoo?
- WorldofHiglet
Jesse: that's what you think. Ask your real friends and they will probably tell you otherwise. :-)
- Robert Scoble
22. get on Leo Laporte's show and have him order his listeners to follow you. He did this last Sunday to my son and you should have seen the followers roll in. That dude has POWER!!!
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I asked them and they said you're the man
- Jesse Stay
23. Get @garyvee to take you wine tasting. Tweet it.
- Robert Scoble
naked pictures drunk sex and dying. got it. Oh, also, be Barack Obama. ANything else?
- Erin @queenofspain
25. Get Chris Brogan to say you are smart.
- Robert Scoble
Be hot and make sure your avatar shows it
- Chris Saad
WTF how pathetic do u have to be tohave this desire to be followed.Ppl follow u cuz they find u interesting & if not they will dump u period.Being a Personal Ball washer is just lame to get to have followers.be sure to hold ur ground.
- Baba
26. Get into an argument with @techcrunch.
- Robert Scoble
I've mentioned my Twitter account on The Tech Guy but I think my last name throws people. :D
- MarkCarras
29. Claim you are above this stupid game.
- Robert Scoble
Quit Twitter, come back after 2 months
- Jesse Stay
All bloggers are wrong at least every few posts. Especially me! :D
- MarkCarras
30. Follow more interesting people. That's why I've said for a year now it's most important who you follow, not who is following you. What I really was trying to say there is if you want better followers you've got to follow better people.
- Robert Scoble
lol Jesse. Twitter? What's that? I thought I was learning how to sell a shamwow
- Erin @queenofspain
What kind of wine are we talking here?
- Chris Poirier
Mark, you bet, but we are all type-A personalities. We hate to be told we're wrong and will defend it to our dying day. :)
- Jesse Stay
31: Give away something. Hold a contest.
- Robert Scoble
Launch a great Twitter service and stick your twitter name in the footer
- Chris Saad
32. Invite Louis Gray over for dinner. Make sure he brings his twins. Take pictures. 1000 extra points if you bring shirts for the twins with your Twitter address on them.
- Robert Scoble
34. Chris Saad is right. Speaking of Chris, if you party with him in Amsterdam you'll get more followers. Oh, and if you are the guy who wrote http://www.twittervision.com you'll get more followers.
- Robert Scoble
Take a pic down a girls shirt and post it on FF.
- David
Not 'Chris Saad' robert - @ChrisSaad :D
- Chris Saad
Get in with the Mommy Bloggers and #GNO Tweeps
- Jesse Stay
Good call Jesse, I was going to say piss off the mommybloggers , but getting in with them works too...lol
- Erin @queenofspain
I've had 2 new FriendFeed followers just from this thread.
- Jesse Stay
Follow Garry Vee (don't ask me to spell his full name out at this time of night, please?) what kind of wine goes with Twittering. *lol* Well, Gary Vee is THE wine expert on Twitter. :P
- Molly, "sorry"
Erin, it is my goal to be King of the Mommy bloggers
- Jesse Stay
Follow just 1 online multi-level marketer and you'll has a ton start following you
- Paul Povolni
I buy dinner for anyone who comes to my area and contacts me through Twitter...and is following me. :D
- MarkCarras
I find that not following people back increases the rate at which I gain followers
- Simon T Small
Simon: being Robert Scoble is pretty hard. You've gotta keep coming up with new ways to find followers. It's easier to call him an asshole on twitter. Even better, call him, TechCrunch, 1938media, JasonCalacanis, Guy Kawasaki, and a few other people assholes.
- Robert Scoble
37. Jeremiah Owyang found this one: stop Twittering.
- Robert Scoble
I'm amazed I don't get called an asshole more often. I think this should be my New Years Resolution. :D
- MarkCarras
38. Follow someone, then when they don't follow you back, call them out on it and say they are lame.
- Robert Scoble
39. Come up with a new Twitter game. Get it retweeted by Chris Brogan.
- Robert Scoble
Make a real funny stream on Friendfeed, but better yet put it on your blog so SEO really gathers people to it and put your Friendfeed/Twitter handles right in the post
- Ian D. Nock
40. Pay Magpie to spam everyone with your Twitter address.
- Robert Scoble
Oh don't tell people to talk shit about you. It's kinda sad to see people talking crap about you, then when you're some place they are, they turn all fanboy.
- Admiral Anika
Robert: wait, not change in plans, I don't hate those people, damn it!
- Simon T Small
No one gets to be King of the mommybloggers until I deem it so dammit
- Erin @queenofspain
42. Hang out with @newmediajim at the Inauguration.
- Robert Scoble
43. Hang out with Hillary Clinton in Davos (my dream).
- Robert Scoble
Erin, but I thought you were the Queen of Spain
- Jesse Stay
44. Come up with a new set of rules for Twitter behavior.
- Robert Scoble
Oh boy, Mr. Scoble. I hope you are not Tweeting while getting drunk and having sex... Poor Mommy and son... Some things need to stay sacred. Do you really want the world at large to know what you are doing at all times? Quit goofing and send us more tech info we enjoy. Great videos from CES by the way. I even got my partner to come and watch some of them. Thanks for the good stuff!
- Colleen
45. Get more followers on Facebook then get them all to join you on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
46. Be @god. Even better. Be @god and hand out beta invites to something cool coming soon.
- Robert Scoble
Colleen: I didn't say I use all these ideas. But I've seen them work on other people. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Give a talk at a geek event and make sure you give out your Twitter name for feedback
- Chris Saad
47. Twitter the birth of your new baby (high risk, if you aren't there mentally during contractions you might see your iPhone thrown across the room).
- Robert Scoble
Pay @MrTweet to recommend you to everyone
- Chris Saad
48. Tweet exclusive Apple news before anyone else does.
- Robert Scoble
49. Be the first to retweet a big earthquake tweet.
- Robert Scoble
51. Follow everyone then unfollow as soon as you get a follow - follow that?
- Mona Nomura
Chris: Influence is gold, like it, am tuned
- Simon T Small
This post alone lets me see the value of FriendFeed over Twitter for conversations. Glad the list above isn't documentation of your personal twitter conquest, but a record of some of the looneyness of Twitter follower greediness
- Paul Povolni
52. Move to SF and go to every. single. Tweet-up! YAY HOW FUN!
- Mona Nomura
Scott: I don't know that this list helped me that much. But, how about a list of things that will get rid of followers? I bet that one would work better.
- Robert Scoble
53. Set text alerts for Brightkite and follow all the huge Tweeter's comings and goings - show up and SUBTLY introduce yourself so you'll be name dropped. Keyword = SUBTLY
- Mona Nomura
54. Go to every single conference and shamelessly pass out your Twitter in lieu of email!
- Mona Nomura
Streak at the Supebowl with your twitter name on your front and back(side)
- Simon T Small
Jesse: that only used to work. There are no defaults on friendfeed anymore. In fact, if you don't have any friends it won't recommend anyone to you.
- Robert Scoble
Name drop as much as you can and do whatever it takes to get written up on ValleyWag (wow, I've learned a lot in six months!)
- Mona Nomura
Get Robert Scoble to tweet that he can't believe what's going on at your birthday party even though it was a tame house party with friends
- Chris Saad
Tell people to NOT follow you. I mean it. Don't.
- Andrew Smith
Post a bajillion pictures of your kids, pets, and more kids.
- Mona Nomura
Make sure you participate in every. single. Robert post and name drop him as much as possible. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Mona, great one - Kids, Dogs, and Kittenz - Bacon, too
- Jesse Stay
@Dieter if a post was sponsored by anyone scoble would let u know - trust me
- Chris Saad
Go to every. single. event and take + post as many. pictures. as you can w/ the "famous" people and PING.FM THOSE PICTURES!
- Mona Nomura
Here's a novel idea - Have something interesting to say and focus on producing value instead of your follower count :)
- Chris Saad
Mona, Facebook and Flickr tag them as well
- Jesse Stay
Always respond to people with an "@" ie: @scobelizer WOW this thread RULES - since you never know what Google's indexing!
- Mona Nomura
Dieter: Huh? If anything this post would be sponsored by Seagate. You can follow them at http://friendfeed.com/seagate (Seagate sponsors my video show, not my friendfeed account).
- Robert Scoble
Mona: 'post famous pictures' Love it. Works a charm on facebook.
- Simon T Small
i have a new one: use Browser bugs to greet your blogvisitors with their twittername http://is.gd/eMdF @andreasklinger
- Andreas Klinger
Chris: having something interesting to say? No, that couldn't work, could it? I'd rather talk about my followers. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Retweet this thread (no, that's not a request, it's an idea)
- Jesse Stay
Chris Saad: yer talkin crazy with that last one. Focus on content? Insanity.
- Scott Kingery
55: Dieter reminded me of one more: talk about products that already have Twitter accounts. When I talked about HR Block they followed me. So did Ford. So did Zappos.
- Robert Scoble
56. Don't auto-DM followers just follow them back or RT their next tweet
- Damian Holmes
Find a unique thing that you can help another Twitter user on - the bigger the user, the better. Fix their problem.
- Jesse Stay
So did @HeavyAsHell Oh wait, that's my site. :D
- MarkCarras
57. post a comment to a robert scoble FF feed
- Damian Holmes
Luke: T-shirts are so common. How about shoes? Jeans? Underwear? Don Box used to have his company logo on underwear. Called them "Boxer shorts." I still remember those, even though I've forgotten all the lame Tshirts I've ever gotten.
- Robert Scoble
Only a slut is going to be able to advertise well with branded underwear
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Compete for the most followers on Twitter - didn't Leo and Calacanis do that at one time? (or am I getting the contenders wrong?)
- Jesse Stay
58. write your twitter name on your eyelids then go to a tweetup or large tech conference
- Damian Holmes
MiniMage: not true. Don Box is no slut. He now runs a team at Microsoft.
- Robert Scoble
Be an early adopter - be one of the first, get in early, and build a follow base early
- Jesse Stay
Another one? Take pictures of Twitter users and follow them. They almost always follow back.
- Robert Scoble
I aint never heard of Don Box, and that means I didn't see that underwear! ;). No, seriously, I concede, but I had to make a retort.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I think a good way to make more friends is to live an interesting life. Life is a journey. You meet people just around every corner. Twitter happens to be one of them.
- Helge V. Keitel
Build up and help out a non-A list, but up-and-coming A or B list Twitter user or blogger. They will be more appreciative (it's those people that like the shirts and swag).
- Jesse Stay
Tweet something like this: "I'm looking for funny people to follow, do you know any?"
- Robert Scoble
Get @gapingvoid to use your twitter address in one of his cartoons (he designed my business cards and you would be amazed how well that works).
- Robert Scoble
@Mona use a hot suggestive silhouette as your avatar - that alwasy helps too
- Chris Saad
Take Louis Gray to a Vodka bar. You might not get any followers, but you will have a good time and he doesn't drink so you'll have a safe drive home, too!
- Robert Scoble
follow A, B, C, D, E, F, X and Z listers
- Damian Holmes
Create a custom T-shirt with "I Love Your Stream" (mine) on front(or your own words) and your Twitter name on back. I did it with @crypticfragment at zazzle.com. Still waiting for it. I didn't put twitter name on back though, should have, but not trying to gain HUGE followers, just the ones that would like to hear about furniture,interior design and eco home stuff! I put: twitter:FTW, on the back.
- Leslie Carothers
Robert, not to mention get on the front of Valleywag
- Jesse Stay
I keep hiding this but it doesn't stay hidden. :(
- Mona Nomura
Follow the Top 500 in your City then Top 500 in your Country that's at least 500 follow backs
- Damian Holmes
Jesse: I find that I get a lot of followers by keeping the A list on the A list. Who wants to deal with those assholes if they fall onto the B list?
- Robert Scoble
I'm with @garyvee & how he encourages us to *execute the best YOU* - don't try to be anyone else but the *best* you... your passionate self. Peeps who resonate with you will follow. And for sure add value, retweet good resources, build peeps up, thank those who comment on your blog & RT you.
- Mari Smith
58. Post to a list to get people to follow you. such as the one explaining how to get people to follow you...
- Sheraz Mahmood
Name drop Hollywood celebrities even if you don't know them.
- Mona Nomura
By the way, I'm following everyone who has participated on this so far. Why? Because only geeks would be online on a Saturday night and I want to follow all the geeks. So, everyone here has at least one follower on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
write a dramatic post about a family from Romania with a child with down syndrome and ask people to donate money.
- Simon T Small
Robert: You'll need to unfollow me, its 6pm Sunday here in Aussieland, so I'm not a commited geek sorry
- Simon T Small
Robert: Gotta do something while Windows 7 downloads :)
- Scott Kingery
Haha!! So busted - very good point re your last comment, Robert. Thank goodness for fab understanding spouses is all I say. hehe
- Mari Smith
60. Get on FriendFeed and Twitter super early and become de facto popular. And yes, #32 is a must.
- Louis Gray
Robert: were not all in Silicon Valley - its 16:30 in China - (awaiting the flames or unfollows - which is worst?)
- Damian Holmes
... and always listen to Scoble! Ha-ha. Robert, we admire you!
- Alan Kodzasov
Another tip: Don't live in Australia nearly NOBODY here is on Twitter
- Simon T Small
Compliment the crap out of "A-listers" and always laugh at all of their jokes. Make sure to add at least seven exclamation points. ie:"LOL!!!!!!!!!!" to stand out from the crowd.
- Mona Nomura
Note: above only works if you participate in every. single. one of their posts on both Twitter and FriendFeed!
- Mona Nomura
Robert: 5:30 pm in Tokyo. I'm pretty much just getting going for the day. :-)
- Ken Brady
Say something that makes a 200 + comment thread ;)
- videopixil
When you send bribes, make sure to research. ie: LG doesn't drink but Robert likes wine. Subtly ask for preferences so they'll get something they actually _like_ <--KEY.
- Mona Nomura
Use Tweetdeck and apply filters to see subjects you are expert in. You'll notice lots of people look for advice in certain fields so you can reply and show your expertise. I notice those people you help are happy and more likely to follow you even if you don't follow them.
- Luca Filigheddu
from fftogo
@videopixil Of course, that applies to most things Scoble says.
- Ken Brady
@tkpleslie says," Ask people like @scobleizer sincere question about whether Nokia's new phone works for people, like me, that wear hearing aids when's he's in Japan in middle of your night at the actual Nokia conference where phone is being intro'd for first time. He did respond,nicely,but did not follow so I guess it doesn't work too well.
- Leslie Carothers
Send Mona lego art wrapped in bacon. Oh wait, that'll get you friendfeed follows.
- Yuvi
This was before I really understood as @marismith says, that true value in twitter for me is having followers and following those people with intersecting paths because, like in real life, that's how interesting real conversations have a chance to develop into fuller, deeper, more lasting relationships.
- Leslie Carothers
Robert, It's Sunday Morning in Loviisa, Finland ;)
- Helge V. Keitel
Leslie: I did follow you here on friendfeed. I still haven't been able to find out if it works well for hearing impaired. I'm sure it does, though. The speaker phone on that device is pretty darn good.
- Robert Scoble
Speak in SAT verbiage at all times to make yourselves sound smarter.
- Mona Nomura
Never admit: ay kin knot reed end rite... :(
- Mona Nomura
This is a great list Robert, I love making new friends. All those awful things people are saying about you must be wrong - aren't they? -]
- Chris Loft
Post YouTube clips of classical music to make yourself seem more cultured.
- Mona Nomura
Share everythign popular on digg because if it's on digg, it MUST be cool.
- Mona Nomura
stop following people who post about following and follow people who don't try...
- Ryan
mention yourself on Scobles friendfeed (@mattrendo)
- Matt Rendo
Keep up with memes since everyone wants to hear what's been repeated on the web a trillion times without contributing a new opinion. ie: CES looks cool.
- Mona Nomura
All great points. I've always hated requests for follows. I'm only attempting something like it for charity. In that instance, those who do the same should be very clear about WHY they want followers in the first place. Otherwise it looks like you're just in it for yourself.
- Brandon Mendelson
Chris Loft: everything said about me is absolutely true! :-)
- Robert Scoble
So it's true that you have huge... giant... socks?
- Chris Saad
Thanks for the follow here on FriendFeed, Robert. I know this is where you interact. But,because home base for me is Twitter, I never saw your follow here until I went to comment on this thread! It's too much for me to constantly go back and forth and also keep up with work, life,friends and family.How do you guys do it? Thanks, tho, Robert,for letting me know. I learn from you ALL the time.
- Leslie Carothers
I really am not obsessed with more followers. Sure I appreciated them as much as the next person. It is not a popularity contest for my use case. Hence, I will never be a "Top 100" person on Twitter. ;)
- Rodney Rumford
If it's on the Internet, it is ALWAYS true, Robert. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Try to explain yourself out of being a geek when you really are
- Jesse Stay
I am indeed a failure, all the more reason to follow me... and that BACON Mona N. mentioned
- Matt Rendo
Get Robert Scoble to Foreward/Afterword your book for you
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse I'm incapable of explaining myself out of being a geek. Better to embrace it.
- Ken Brady
61: Add on to a Robert Scoble numbered list with an incrementally interesting item.
- Steve Garfield
back up your success with nothing more than 140 characters
- Sheraz Mahmood
I've noticed that people who start a controversy, especially with a high profile person, get an immediate boost in followers. You'd think it would backfire but it seems to have the opposite effect. Maybe it's the trainwreck factor? People curious what on earth will be said next?
- Liz
Apparently posting on Scoble's Friendfeed works... 6 followers in the last few minutes.
- Matt Rendo
Woah. 278+ comments. Impressive! This is definitely one that will stick on FFholic for a while.
- Phil G
Wondering is anybody will read all these comments. I do believe if twitter doesn't get it together, that a large group will flock out to another destination. ala: Poof!
- Dave
Hey @scobleizer, your post would have been more appropriate on a blog.
- Klaus Alexander Seistrup
Post photos of cute puppies on FriendFeed.
- Amit Morson
To get followers, jump into a Tweetchat "room", get into the convo, follow folks then tell them in the chat room that you are following. For the "Happy09" chat, there were tons of people in there. Better yet, start your own chat/chat meme!
- Jesse P. Luna
@ reply like crazy to let the person know you followed them ie: @Scobleizer HI I FOLLOWED YOU FOLLOW ME BACK repeat until FailWhale/FailRobot shows up.
- Mona Nomura
Well, that's starting to work . . . anyone else getting lots of new friends? . . . and I didn't have to insult anybody. I think I might have to post one of my classical video clips for Mona http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Chris Loft
Leslie, the N series work v well with the hearing impaired, but the iPhone works even better from my experience FTW!
- Sally Church
One thing that annoys me: people who discuss their follower numbers on twitter. Its just not interesting! I just subscribed to someone and unsubscribed the next day as 4 tweets were about passing 10000 - I'm very glad for you but it is just noise in my feed. Now I understand the feeling - I was amazed the day 100 people followed me (it is all relative :) ) - but it is not necessary to tweet about it.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I was going to send you some Swiss wine Robert, but I was told it doesn't travel well, so drank it myself. Just so you know, it was good :-)
- Paul Shadwell
I'm paling up with several here, in spite of what Mr. Scoble says about Saturday night geeks. -Mr. Geek ;-P
- Eddie Soto
Participate in a Robert Scoble's friendfeed conversation on Saturday night, have him follow you, post the screenshot of him following you
- Bertrand Doux
On the subject of more followers, arrrrrgh! *runs screaming from room.... *
- Sally Church
Tweet about Windows 7(or something equally as interesting), which I'll be doing a lot of in the coming days, It's installing as I type this!
- Kevin Lloyd
Tweet, but don't tweet too much because people apparently don't want to hear from you (or is it just me! ;)) THAT much! :)
- Christopher Kusek
Paul, what's that about swiss wine not travelling so well? It travels beautifully (but you need to get the good ones). It is so hard to find outside Switzerland because the swiss tend to drink all of it.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Liz, I thought that was really funny cos it's Sunday evening here. I'm not some z-list geek sitting here wasting my time on a Saturday night. -[
- Chris Loft
point 4 above is shameless self-plug :) but entertaining :)))
- A.T.
64. Comment on a Robert Scoble list at 2:21 AM in bed becausse you could not sleep
- Tyler (Chacha)
65. Plan to write a blog post on thisentry in the morning
- Tyler (Chacha)
66. Fail at placing a space between in this and entry on a scoble list ( iPod recognizes Scoble as a word and auto completed it)
- Tyler (Chacha)
get stuck on a bus in death valley in the middle of the night with robert scoble.
- Christine Lu
Follow an obscure norwegian and get incoherent conversations about whales, blåbærsyltetøy, and the semantic web;) (which may make people curious.. or unfollow you actually..)
- Thomas Bøhm
Get up at 6 am on Sundays if living in Europe because otherwise you miss Robert Scoble's craziest moments and most interesting threads = people *damn* I should have never slept in!
- Gaby K. Slezák
A real one: Upload a sexy picture on your profile or your twitter bg !!
- İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
Claim that Scoble and Techcrunch are simply manufactured entities by a mysterious corporate power using Coke vs. Pepsi tactics to polarize the masses in an effort to conquer the world.
- Bob Starr
RT @scobleizer Robert this is good advice, except I don't see any reference to bodacious tat-tas. ;)
- John Craft
RT @scobleizer Robert wow, your post generated so many comments, is this the most number of comments from a single tweet in Twitter history? Can anyone confirm?
- Alvin
Sorry not Twitter, this is from FriendFeed :)
- Alvin
67. write about stuff you are enthusiastic about and that's only covered by a handful of people yet (like virtual worlds, metaverse) and shamelessly reveal that you are enthusiastic about that in one of the most commented on @scobleizer threads ;-)
- Gaby K. Slezák
stop reading half way but say it was awesome anyway
- Stephen Breen
You forgot about having a whole lot of time on your hands!
- John D Reasor
I knew I should have tweeted from the back of that police van on the stroke of new year's eve, watching the fireworks. And walking away. Walking. With a big grin on my face. We'z not dus photoz. Doh.
- Chris Loft
Write an "unofficial biography of Robert Scoble" and have it published? ;)
- Tyson Key
“Scoble's law of unfollows: for everyone who you get on Twitter that says they will unfollow you will get 87 new followers.” http://tinyurl.com/9oahwc
- Tapio Kulmala
Talk about the versatility of bacon - BACON - crisp, tasty BACON
- BEX
Just noticed this is a very dude-heavy thread (not all but mainly) and that I mainly subscribe to guys on FriendFeed. But on Twitter I have about 60/40 men/women Following mix, I think. It was the comments about ta-tas and sexy profile photos that made me realize the difference.
- Liz
Lock Robert Scoble, Mona N, Jesse Stay, Louis Gray, Jason Calacanis and Techcrunch in a room. Only release them when they've retweeted every single of your tweets and told all their followers to follow you!
- Nicholas James
nope its nun of the above; .they are just hacking into your FF account;If you really want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed this is what you do, its...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.they got me.
- tomartomartini
Yep .. I think this has reached the most active discussion .. ever (It past Dave Winer's post which is most discussed in past 30 days)
- Tyler (Chacha)
Come on people! We need to reach 500 comments!
- Tyler (Chacha)
Tweet unto you as you would like to be tweeted.
- iamkhayyam
Create a Robert Scoble fan blog and title it Mr. Awesome. :)
- Bill Romanos
69. start a list and slowly move out of it as other members of the community move in to pick it up (there is no 68) - you are now running things without even being there.
- Valeria Maltoni
Be a more interesting what Robert? :p oh and maybe follow the fastest top ten commenters here.
- mrsha
I am reading this in friendfeed on my iPhone and immediately regretting my decision to tap "read more..." I made it through the first 12 then began skimming and my thumb began sobbing...
- John Reynolds
I don't remember any friendfeed item getting more than 300 comments. I think this is now the new high water mark. Wow!
- Robert Scoble
Or: Post a “If you want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed here's what to do:” tweet :-)
- Marco Massarotto
Not being in this comment stream is so embarrassing. Wait, so is BEING in this comment stream!
- Tom Guarriello
i wonder if you did it all wrong, would you really get no followers...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle: if you did it all wrong you would still get followers but they just would be all spammers.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - define spam... Is this post spam?
- Brian Roy
Comment on the longest thread in Friendfeed history.
- Mike Lewis
it seems pretty simple: post interesting things, interact thoughtfully, and be patient
- Kelly W.
70. When all else fails, make interesting crap up about Robert, Gary, Brogan, etc..
- Todd Jordan
It isn't how many follow you... it is the quality of those you follow. But... that makes it hard to keep score and determine who is "winning".
- Brian Roy
patient? I want 1000 followers and I want them now! ;) (actually, I am with Kelly on this one)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
You know... Chris Brogan liked a post of mine and retweeted it letting everyone know... it ended up bringing me about 800 new visitors in the span of 2 hours. There's definitely something to be said about being seen with the right people. :)
- Steven Sanders
Hey Robert, say something positive about each of us today? Really be a boost.
- Todd Jordan
AVG works just fine for me under Windows 7!
- Dave Oliver
Todd: you all are beautiful. And smart. That's why I am following everyone on this thread.
- Robert Scoble
It's simple, but just do two things (in order): 1. Create good content. 2. Market that content in an intelligent, non-spammy way.
- Daniel Miessler
Daniel: marketing part is what we're really talking about here. How to/who to/when to/where to/what to market.
- Todd Jordan
That said: Talk about Twitter and FriendFeed all day every day. Don't forget to include: "I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA EXPERT" in all of your profiles.
- Mona Nomura
Make special badges that scream your self proclaimed title. You know, kind of like flair? Or girl/boy scouts?
- Mona Nomura
@Mona - heck yeah, huge % of new followers claim to be soc media experts.
- Todd Jordan
Todd- FAIL. You forgot Rule #163. NAME DROP. @scobelizer (I'm just namedropping but really addressing Mona... err @monaaa)
- Mona Nomura
Not call anyone out but I think it should be: " I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA SLUT!1!" ;-P
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Mathew - CRAP you stole my thunder... I'm working on a blog post entitled "How to know if you are a social media slut"... thanks!
- Brian Roy
Brian - I hope that comes after: "10,000 Ways to Effectively use Twitter for Business"
- Mona Nomura
I wish FF would timestamp comments. It'd be interesting to know how this conversation flowed...or jumped around.
- Liz
Mona - pretty sure those two are the same post... No?
- Brian Roy
Liz: Just hang out over the little convo balloon to the left of the comments. It shows you how long ago the comment was left. :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
Be serious at ALL times since analyzing Social Networks with charts and graphs is THE FUTURE!
- Mona Nomura
Announce your twitter address after saying the pledge of allegiance over the school intercom system.
- David Rose
I drunk tweet all the time, and it doesn't help. People just email you AA invitations.
- Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)
Since you are all here... I was wondering. Have you seen my car keys?
- Brian Roy
Another would be to make a Bacon Fan Club Room.
- Nicholas James
Will find out soon if becoming a social media diva pin-up acquires more followers :)
- Nicola Quinn
PLAY with your followers and build a community of FANS. Start a meme, host a trivia session (@linnetwoods), do fun thematic Blip.fm sets (@jesseluna, @Dave_Malby), start a fun-spirited smackdown battle with another Twitterer (@Dana_Wilhoit and @SeanAMcAlister). UStream and play Wii while you're lightly toasted with a fun friend (@queenofspain)
- Jesse P. Luna
Start your own threads using all and only Robert's suggestions. Originality means nothing, it's all about being a Robert clone!
- Mona Nomura
Be imperfect, fragile, human - someone everyone can relate to.
- Tomi Itkonen
Participate in memes where you can post old pictures of yourself from 70s, 80s or 90s.
- Larry Kless
@Scobleizer so far I tweet from party, wc, roadtrip, first minutes of the new year, wc again, meeting, boring meeting, boring presentation, wedding, engagement, hospital... I think I am on good track !!!
- Alemsah Ozturk
Talk like you are deluded into thinking the iPhone and Apple computers are superior machines.
- Mark Stahler
Help Robert getting 400 comments or any other all time high on friendfeed!
- Gaby K. Slezák
Here's the 401st for good measure! I kinda use Twitter and FF to keep up with new, and record ideas and thoughts for myself, but if some people out there find a common ground with me, that's very cool! I think too much is placed on these online friend / follower counts overall tho... BTW, this comment is probably on the "How NOT to get more followers on Twitter or FF" list. :) Keep feeding me the knowledge Scobs!
- AdPanda
Spell @Scobleizer correctly when trying to drop a name ... lol.
- Robert Couture
Bump .... @charlieanzman. I can't believe this thread!
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie - the sheer #s of comments or the fact that this is such a popular topic?
- Susan Beebe
How can you possibly read all of this and get anything done? This is an example of FF overkill.
- Scott Maentz
@Susan folks are now commenting for the fun of it. :)
- Todd Jordan
Wow! I remember when this began as three items, then Scoble got all giddy and inspired and started this hilarious chain of absurdity. Well done Mr. @Scobleizer
- Paul Povolni
Make sure to be a hater and nit-pick on every. little. thing. someone does online!
- Mona Nomura
Take everything someone says as a personal attack and rant!
- Mona Nomura
Complain about every. little. thing.
- Mona Nomura
Change your display name everyday aNd mAkE sUrE tO tYpE LiKe DiS
- Mona Nomura
Make sure to kiss a whole buncha *ss and name drop, name drop, name drop!
- Mona Nomura
every 3rd comment should be "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooopooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooopoopoooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooppooooooooooooo oooo" wow... It is hard to enter that many o's on an iPhone. EDIT -> I put in spaces - apparently I annoyed Brandon...
- Brian Roy
@Brian: Please edit your post so it doesn't break everyone's feed. I'd like to not hide this item. Thanks.
- AJ Kohn
I think that I made a comment on this post but I can't find it. And Mona, you are cracking me up!!
- BEX
I wonder if there is a limit to how many comments can be added to a post on FF
- Susan Beebe
The funniest part about all this is that I've gotten a *ton* of followers for posting on this thread. Weird! I think once my programming-related FF activity resumes people will drop from my feed like flies :)
- Eric Florenzano
Too bad I can't tweet the link (yet) -- of this 400+ comment -- I don't know how to call this. Not a Tweetversation by any means. A FFversation? Anyone come out with any sensible terms?
- David Feng
I have some ideas, none of which are usable.
- WorldofHiglet
subscribe to Friendfeeds for Twitter Celebs and read their Twitter hints... Start with Scoble..
- TechMama Beth Blecherman
I see "423 more comments". That's the most I have ever seen so far in FF!
- Winston Teo
TechMama: that will work very well. Of course then you'll only be fed shallow news. The real good stuff is on the K list. They aren't on the bottom, so they have a few followers, but they really don't give a shit so they are very real and teach you stuff. Unfortunately they usually don't stay on the K list very long. They either get moved up pretty fast or they get put in rehab for social media addiction.
- Robert Scoble
What was this thread about? I forgot, AGAIN!
- Jim Bednarz
Jim: me too, it's taken on a life of its own. Oh, yeah, it was about how to make money with friendfeed. Heheheh. Yeah, right!
- Robert Scoble
Quick! Scoble's about to do a 'How to make money on friendfeed' post now. Looking for the hattrick ;~)
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Ed: heheh. how to make money in friendfeed? Get a million followers. The money will come. Or maybe not. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I guess you could charge for seminars on how to get a million followers ;D
- Seth Greenblatt
Robert - Think you broke your own record with this one. 255 Likes and 437 comments ?! Guess nobody's embracing Friendfeed tonight :)
- Charlie Anzman
Nobody's gonna read this, but I can't help observing that "I've got 10000 followers" is kinda like saying "I have 1000 books on my bookshelf", as if the number, not the content, is the important thing.
- Mr. Gunn
Charlie .. his last one has 300 comments and over 300 likes I believe ... But this thread is 70 people away from reaching every single person on Friendfeed. (Given the 500 like rule)
- Tyler (Chacha)
ChaCha - Ya gotta love it. Now when he reaches everyone on the Internet ... :)
- Charlie Anzman
Susan - Wasn't ignoring you ... just got lost in the middle of this ScobleChaChaMeMeWhateverItIs ... night all :)
- Charlie Anzman
Most importantly, get followed by @scobleizer hope he retweets, likes and/or comments on your posts.
- Christian Anderson
Christian: that's fair. I keep hoping you retweet, like, or comment on mine! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Yikes, I see there are 442 "collapsed" comments that follow Robert Scoble's teaser! (I won't dare to "expand" them - it would take ages to read them all.) The subject clearly preys on people's minds... Scoble has a knack for hitting the right button!
- Yule Heibel
I wonder if Mobile Safari would have such an implosion that the iPhone would shatter in my hands, if I tried to expand that thread.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
doing video works pretty well too :)
- Loic Le Meur
great, robert, this is *really* pushing the limit :)
- Alberto D'Ottavi
tweet about the size of Robert's ..... =X
- Rachael Depp
whoa comment frenzy! @FriendFeed can you please build a Comment Quality filter before I attempt to make sense of all this user generated erm "content"? Now there's a question: how do we measure Comment Quality?
- Bob Hitching
I was lucky enough to arrive at his 3rd or 4th point... it was amazing to see it happen on the fly, as I and other people jumped in. It was like a chat room or IM chat.
- Simon T Small
Oh, and by commenting a couple of times on this post, I got 36 new twitter followers and about 6 new friend feed followers in 12 hours
- Simon T Small
omg.. why isn´t there a comment link on the bottom as well ? Especially useful on the iphone. I forgot the witty remark that would ensure me thousands of followers by the time I finger-scrolled to the top and to the bottom again on this insanely long thread. Oh, well, at least my comments are seen sometimes.. hello ?
- Thomas Bøhm
I do like how #1: Stop your bloody begging and whining for followers is still showing though. :-P
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Re: 18., Tweet from the great beyond. INSANE follow numbers then. ;-p
- mtlb
This is certainly quite interesting thread. I wonder how many Likes this will get. :D
- Daniel Schildt
This thread has become a meme unto itself. As I once said, Robert Scoble plays social media like a virtuoso musician. FTW
- Sheldon Steiger
from twhirl
you can be conversational with twitter in close and small circle or in a short time-span. Without it, goodluck speaking to the wind :D. If only I can persuade my circle to FriendFeed
- Toni @ NavinoT
I rarely use twitter for coversations for the same reasons as you Dave. But some use it as if it's chat, and their tweets are generally unintersting and unintelligible.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
I am with you 100% on that Dave. For conversation I try to use Friend Feed or Plurk. Facebook kind of works for that except that I despise Facebook and only check it a few times a week. :D
- MarkCarras
I would love to bring my favorite Twitter followers to FF. No question.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Dave - you might want to take a look at Stowe Boyd's post on Tweetree (allows for threaded convos on Twitter): http://tinyurl.com/725c7f
- Aaron Strout
Trust me, Laura would be a great hire. She knows how to make your presentations rock AND knows a thing or two about blogging and Twitter.
- Aaron Strout
Not shameless at all. Have a look at the presentation Laura links to. she has a great combination of knowledge and passion.
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
I have the Hawaii Five-0 theme song programed as my ringer on my cell. It's a nice little pick me up when my friends and family from back home call.
- Miranda
Cee Bee, that's close...more of a "that's bad ass" reaction to that Pug...reminds me of the dog in MIB...good effort though, but I still contend the Bambi pics are still an 11 on the Cute Scale...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
I'm sorry but a) I have to and b) I'm off to bed but... "The difference between MJ and a shopping bag? One is made from white plastic and should never be played with by children... the other one just carries your shopping..."
- Johnny Worthington
I think someone just unliked my birthday message because of this share...
- Zee.
I wouldn't have shaken McCain's hand either. He basically called Obama a snot nosed punk (in nicer political speak of course)
- Aaron Strout
from twhirl
Mukund - good point. Bottom line, people need to hang tight and realize that this too will pass. However, we definitely need better/more rigorous oversight in financial markets.
- Aaron Strout
from twhirl
You know which Beatles show I would have wanted to attend? The concert on the roof. It is so perfect. It is the same point in their story as King Arthur finding Lancelot and Guinnevere - the beginning of the end.
- Dave Slusher
But The Smiths now is nothing at all like The Smiths then.
- Nine
I saw the Ramones once a long time ago. Man was that a LOUD show!
- Jeff P. Henderson
I want to qualify my original statement: Fat Elvis, not Skinny Elvis.
- Derek Coward
I'd like to have seen Peter Gabriel and Pink Floyd back in the day.
- jcunwired
"There's two kinds of people in this world, Elvis people and Beatles people. Now Beatles people can like Elvis. And Elvis people can like the Beatles. But nobody likes them both equally. Somewhere you have to make a choice. And that choice tells me who you are." -- Pulp Fiction
- Andre Pope
Lucky me I saw Jimi Hendrix in 1967 when I was 15 - small venue before he got famous, he put a hell of a show.
- martha
Oddly enough, Andre, I actually like the Beatles more than Elvis, but I would much rather have seen him than them. There's something about seeing a fat sloppy pile of charisma that appeals to my sensibilities more than seeing the prototypical boy band. Now the Stones? Hate em.
- Derek Coward
It's funny, I made a similar comment to my wife that other day. Jimmy Carter, Dubbya and now Palin all say "Nuke-you-ler" ;)
- Aaron Strout
from twhirl
Funny, I think Obama is very flat and dissipated. McCain is just McCain, and I don't think he needs to "hit it out of the park" - he just needs to keep hitting his points. Pollsters said Kerry was 10 points ahead at this point in the campaign - still lost. I think in reality McCain is 10 points ahead. My prediction for the election is 54/43 McCain.
- Rob Sterling
Women went negative when mccain talked about small business. Women don't like small business?
- Chris Lamping
@Rob - you know if you're right and McCain wins this FF and Twitter is going to go apesh_t with outrage. It is fairly amusing to contemplate. There is so much smugness right now that it will hit them hard.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
Rob: the thing is the economy is in the crapper and getting crappier. That wasn't the case when Kerry was up at bat. McCain is running out of chances to overturn the momentum that's going against him. He's totally not scoring when he needs to be.
- Robert Scoble
@Soulhuntre: There is no non-ugly aftermath from this election. Either the left thinks the GOP stole it, or the right thinks the media stole it for the left. We're at the point now where Marxist progressives have so thoroughly penetrated media entities and the Democrat Party that the only solution is for them to start their own "Green" party and media institutions.
- Rob Sterling
Yeah, Rob, you've got some "fuzzy math" going on.
- Aaron Strout
from twhirl
Soulhuntre: four weeks ago I thought McCain was going to win. I'm a long way from being smug. The world can change tomorrow in a way that throws the momentum to McCain. But he is running out of chances to convince the American people he's the guy. He isn't doing it here.
- Robert Scoble
I had not considered that perspective. I vote GOP anyway, but that's good thinkin' there, Scoble.
- Rob Sterling
I've never been loyal to any one party; I think partisan politics sucks. I wish there was a better system that truly put country before party.
- Ian May
Fey is funny bit she's not *that* funny.
- ♥patricia♥
So true! Imagine Tina Fey's reaction when she saw the news that McCain had picked Palin.
- Pete Steege
Since 2000 he's taken home almost half a billion. Congressman asks him: "Is this fair?"
- Thomas Hawk
They are quibling over the ammount. He's saying it's closer to $200 million, the Congressman is saying it's $400 to $500 million. Talking about his vacation homes, his helicopter commute, his art collection with million dollar paintings etc.
- Thomas Hawk
Congressman says "Wall Street privatized all the gains and socialized all the losses."
- Thomas Hawk
Right, because $500 million would be obscene, but $200 million is completely reasonable. *rolls eyes*
- Eric P
Eric: Now he's gonna say something about not being greedy.
- Roberto Bonini
CNBC: apparently he went to the gym after the bankruptcy failure at Lehman and someone knocked him out cold while he was working on the treadmill.
- Thomas Hawk
Any place on the net where one could watch this?
- Holger Eilhard
I suspect he either can't remember, he had no knowledge because his secretary really ran the company, claims Fortune 500 executive privilege, or can't say because it's a national security issue.
- Todd Hoff
He's not going to say much because there's litigation going on. Fuld seems to be implicating Hank Paulson may have misled him... or he's lying.
- Jim McCusker
Unfortunately they're going to get burnt for the, say, next 6 months, then he'll settle down with his millions... :( And the next person is probably already in line to do exactly the same.
- Holger Eilhard
Glad I'm not in his shoes. That's one major brow beating he's in for.
- Aaron Strout