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AASFSHNR

AASFSHNR

Atheists, Agnostics, Skeptics, Freethinkers, Secular Humanists and the Non-Religious

This group is named for the discussion group on http://www.kiva.org (founded by Peter Kroll) which shows that critical thinkers can (and do) act compassionately, without the need for magical sanction.

The idea for this room is to highlight the genius of the unwieldy name: a place to share and discuss content about issues of atheism/agnosticism/secular humanism from a truly skeptical and non-religious point of view.

It's difficult to label lack of belief (much like "not collecting stamps" doesn't work as a hobby). Names like "brights" are kind of lame, and neither "skeptic" nor "atheist" is comprehensive enough. Maybe AASFSHNR will catch on?
Chris Topher
Note to self: Do not engage Creationists...
Eivind
Celebrity Touch Confers 'Magical' Value to Memorabilia - D-brief | DiscoverMagazine.com - http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief...
Celebrity Touch Confers 'Magical' Value to Memorabilia - D-brief | DiscoverMagazine.com
"King Midas famously turned anything he touched to gold, a fun thought even if it didn’t work out too well for him. We like to say successful (or lucky) people today can metaphorically do the same, but it turns out that celebrities — certain celebrities at least — have a more literal version of the Midas touch. A new study quantifies this “magical thinking” in regards to celebrity memorabilia — and it finds that, the more likeable a celeb, and the more time they spent touching the object, the greater its perceived value." - Eivind from Bookmarklet
Abstract: "Contagion is a form of magical thinking in which people believe that a person’s immaterial qualities or essence can be transferred to an object through physical contact. Here we investigate how a belief in contagion influences the sale of celebrity memorabilia. Using data from three high-profile estate auctions, we find that people’s expectations about the amount of physical... more... - Eivind
Cooties. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Cooties Theory of Value :) - Eivind from Android
Eivind
Epiphany: The punishment of cutting off the right hand for theft (based on Surah Al-Ma'idah 38) works on more levels than I had previously considered.
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Forced use of the left hand? - Pete : Team Marina
For some reason, I had never contemplated the social isolation that results from this in cultures where the left hand is considered unclean. Not being able to eat in company with others, not being able to shake people's hands. Just knowing that people know that you're not able to live "cleanly," even if you don't show it. (This epiphany was brought to me by The Years of Rice and Salt.) - Eivind
It really is the punishment that keeps on punishing. - Eivind
I had no idea that old-fashioned idea of left being "sinister" still existed. - Spidra Webster
The division between left hand tasks and right hand tasks is still very much alive. How "sinister" the left is, varies widely from culture to culture, I'm sure. When I was invited home to some people in Morocco for dinner, they laughed their asses off when I forgot myself and ate with my left (I'm a leftie). Apparently the sheer unexpectedness made it hilarious, but they weren't... more... - Eivind
Maitani
Inside the world of modern day magicians, witches and evangelical Christians | Neurobonkers | Big Think - http://bigthink.com/neurobo...
Inside the world of modern day magicians, witches and evangelical Christians | Neurobonkers | Big Think
"In a fascinating interview Stanford University psychological anthropologist Tanya Luhrmann describes meeting modern day "witches", taking a "magic" course, experiencing bizarre (non-drug-induced) hallucinations and generally "hanging out in the magical world". Luhrmann also shares her thoughts on the biomedical model of psychiatry, her experiences spending time with evangelical Christians and the mechanism through which she believes individuals can enable themselves to have imagined conversations with God. She describes an example of a pastor telling her to pour herself a coffee and "a second cup of coffee for God" and how she believes there is a process where religious people learn to believe their thoughts are not "self authored" but rather they are "other authored". The discussion really starts to get interesting at about 17 minutes in:" - Maitani from Bookmarklet
"Luhrmann's books “When God Talks Back” and "Persuasions of the Witch's Craft: Ritual Magic in Contemporary England" investigate how rational people come to believe and indeed experience the absurd." - Maitani
Ken Morley
Atheism Explained - Top Documentary Films - http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/atheism...
Atheism Explained - Top Documentary Films
"Why would God be mad for actually doing some research instead of just sitting around and going to church couple of times a week and acting like you really care? But what if Christians are praying to the wrong God and making the real one madder and madder every time they do it?" - Ken Morley from Bookmarklet
Eivind
Religious Infusion Predicts Intergroup Conflict Around the World - Association for Psychological Science - http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index...
Religious Infusion Predicts Intergroup Conflict Around the World - Association for Psychological Science
"The researchers interviewed scholars with expertise in one of 97 countries encompassing about 124 different groups, each of which had the potential to be involved in a certain type of conflict involving a powerful ingroup and a marginalized outgroup, with groups including ethnic minorities, religious ruling classes, and dominant state powers. In general, groups with higher levels of religious infusion were more likely to experience various types of conflict, including prejudice, interpersonal discrimination, individual violence, symbolic aggression (e.g., desecration of holy sites), and collective violence. But religious infusion also interacted with two specific mechanisms — value incompatibility and competition for limited resources — to predict certain types of conflict. Ingroups and outgroups with high religious infusion were prejudiced against — and were more likely to discriminate against — groups that held incompatible values. But the picture was more complex for outgroups... more... - Eivind from Bookmarklet
Eivind
Profitable Proof of Heaven | Genealogy of Religion - http://genealogyreligion.net/profita...
Profitable Proof of Heaven | Genealogy of Religion
"In 2012, Eben Alexander published Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon’s Journey into the Afterlife. The credulous, who had been smitten by Colton Burpo’s Heaven Is For Real story in 2010, were of course overjoyed. It’s one thing for a four year old kid from Nebraska to claim heaven is real; it’s quite another for a prestigious neurosurgeon to say the same. [...] For those not familiar with these stories, Burpo’s is that while he was undergoing surgery, he “died” (i.e., his heart briefly stopped beating) and went to heaven. While visiting, he met Jesus (who had blue eyes), John the Baptist, Samson, and his grandpa. Gramps, like everyone else in heaven, was young again and had wings. God was so big he could hold “the whole world in his hands.” This supposedly happened when Colton was four. Seven years later, Colton’s father (an evangelical pastor) and Sarah Palin’s ghostwriter coaxed a best-selling book out of him. On the surface, Alexander’s story seemed to have more heft. On the... more... - Eivind from Bookmarklet
"We now have some disclosure, but it is not what I expected when I wrote last year. There is, as this Esquire exposé explains, much more (or less) to Alexander’s story. While the author, Luke Dittrich, minces no words by calling Alexander a “prophet,” he minces them by not calling Alexander a liar. Let’s start with some basics. Alexander refuses to release his medical records. Why? It’s... more... - Eivind
I LOATHE ALL NDE TALES. THEY MAKE ME CRINGE. - Friar Will
Huge profit for returning prophets. I think I'd have added "oh, and God said I was to be in charge while he was away", though :) - Eivind
Eivind
Okay, that shirt Mo got for Xmas made me laugh out loud in the office :D - Eivind from Bookmarklet
I kind of want one, but I think wearing it would be...unwise. - Eivind
Maitani
The Reason Stick: The Venn Diagram of Christmas Traditions - http://crispian-jago.blogspot.de/2013...
The Reason Stick: The Venn Diagram of Christmas Traditions
"I love Christmas. I love everything about it, apart perhaps from the predictable fundamental Christians bleating on about the so called War on Christmas and their irksome ill-informed insistence that Jesus is the reason for the season." - Maitani from Bookmarklet
"White Wine in the Sun" made it into the Venn diagram :) - Eivind
Eivind
EFO Empty Force FAIL - YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
EFO Empty Force FAIL - YouTube
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"Empty force is a term used in martial arts to denote the expression of force without making physical contact. Whether or not this force actually exists is the subject of debate in the martial arts community. People who believe in the empty force claim "Ling Kong Jing, the 'Empty Force,' is the highest martial arts skill in China. This technique claims to harness the power of qi, the "body's vital energy", enabling masters of the art to defend themselves against opponents without making physical contact."[1] Its authenticty and effectiveness are quite controversial and explaining where and when it originated has proven difficult for its current leading master, Paul Dong. According to Paul Dong, "It is hard to trace the origins of the empty force, but we know that Yang Luchuan (1799-1872)—a famous Tai Chi Chuan expert in China's Qing Dynasty who was said to 'draw blood with every step'—had mastered the empty force."[2] The concept of the technique is only one piece of what is supposed... more... - Eivind from Bookmarklet
The video made me smile :) - Eivind
lulululzzzzzzzzzzz - imabonehead
fucking charlatans - Eddy63
Eddy63
▶ The Crazy Delusional Pastor George - Atheist Experience # - YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
▶ The Crazy Delusional Pastor George - Atheist Experience # - YouTube
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Maitani
Rationally Speaking: The pseudoscience black hole - http://rationallyspeaking.blogspot.de/2013...
Rationally Speaking: The pseudoscience black hole
"As I’ve mentioned on other occasions, my most recent effort in philosophy of science actually concerns what my collaborator Maarten Boudry and I call the philosophy of pseudoscience. During a recent discussion we had with some of the contributors to our book at the recent congress of the European Philosophy of Science Association, Maarten came up with the idea of the pseudoscience black hole. Let me explain." - Maitani from Bookmarklet
"Rationally Speaking is a blog maintained by Prof. Massimo Pigliucci, a philosopher at the City University of New York. The blog reflects the Enlightenment figure Marquis de Condorcet's idea of what a public intellectual (yes, we know, that's such a bad word) ought to be: someone who devotes himself to "the tracking down of prejudices in the hiding places where priests, the schools, the... more... - Maitani
Eddy63
Naked girls plow fields for rain | Reuters - speaking of superstition - http://www.reuters.com/article...
Naked girls plow fields for rain | Reuters - speaking of superstition
If it works in India, maybe they should try this on the Arabian peninsula? - Eivind
Maitani
NeuroLogica Blog » Chopra Shoots at Skepticism and Misses - http://theness.com/neurolo...
"Deepak Chopra apparently has no love for organized skepticism. This is not surprising and his particular brand of spiritual pseudoscience has been a favorite target of skeptical analysis. He is also not the only one who has decided to fight back against the skeptics – if you cannot defend yourself against legitimate criticism, then shoot the messenger." - Maitani from Bookmarklet
"In a recent article Chopra renews his attack against what he calls “militant skepticism.” This is a blatant attempt, of course, to portray skeptics as extremist and on the fringe, a strategy that has been used against “militant atheists.” Chopra also uses his article to conflate skepticism with atheism, almost as if he is completely unaware of the internal discourse that has been taking place for decades within the skeptical movement." - Maitani
I wonder how much more money Chopra makes by dressing his bullshit up as science. Can't magic stand on its own feet anymore? - Eivind
That would be by far preferable, imo (but not as profitable, as you already suggested). - Maitani
Eddy63
Jesus was a Hebrew who lived 2000 years ago in the Middle East. He looked a hell of a lot more like this: - http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo...
Maitani
NeuroLogica Blog » Reprogramming Your Junk DNA - http://theness.com/neurolo...
"Every now and then I come across a stunning example of pseudoscience, an exemplar, almost raising pseudoscience to an art form. Some pieces of scientific nonsense read almost like poetry. Such examples make me wonder what is going on in the mind of the pseudoscientist – to me, the most fascinating question. One example I recently came across is the idea that we can reprogram our DNA through words alone. Just about every red-flag of pseudoscience if flying high with this one. Here is the theory in a nutshell:" - Maitani from Bookmarklet
"Only 10% of our DNA is being used for building proteins. It is this subset of DNA that is of interest to western researchers and is being examined and categorized. The other 90% are considered “junk DNA.” The Russian researchers, however, convinced that nature was not dumb, joined linguists and geneticists in a venture to explore those 90% of “junk DNA.” Their results, findings and... more... - Maitani
Eivind
Maitani
Philosophy Monkey: Tim Minchin's Nine Life Lessons - http://berto-meister.blogspot.de/2013...
Philosophy Monkey: Tim Minchin's Nine Life Lessons
"Although C.P. Snow famously decried the divergence of the two cultures (the sciences and the humanities), we have seen over the years many public intellectuals trying to bridge that gap by writing eloquently and engagingly about the importance, method and discoveries of science. Usually, these thinkers are scientists (such as Richard Dawkins and Steven Pinker) who have mastered the ability to engagingly communicate the importance, underlying structure, method and discoveries of science, as well as their love for it. It's not as common, however, to have someone from the arts and humanities do the same, and to be as engaging, thought-provoking and funny as Tim Minchin, who was recently awarded an Honorary Degree of Doctor of Letters by the University of Western Australia, and who decided to share a few life tips worth listening to:" - Maitani from Bookmarklet
Tinfoil 2.0
‘Christianity was a hoax’ and scholar claims he has the proof http://dangerousminds.net/comment...
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It is no secret that the biography of Jesus according to the NT has been constructed and can't have much in common with the life of the alleged historical person. But I doubt Atwill can provide evidence for his extravagant claims. Plus, can what he describes as the schemings of the Caesars be in accordance with the ways of thinking of that time? - To me, this is another impulse to read more on the historical roots of Christianity. - Maitani
It would be so much fun if this was the real story, but it sounds unlikely to me. - Eivind
I agree Eivind. I suspect the only way we'll ever know the truth behind the myths is if some ancient drafts that were supposed to get destroyed are uncovered. - Tinfoil 2.0
Eric Logan
Pascal’s Wager: Expanded Edition - http://www.patheos.com/blogs...
Pascal’s Wager: Expanded Edition
Eivind
Meet the Fantastically Bejeweled Skeletons of Catholicism’s Forgotten Martyrs | Past Imperfect - http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history...
Meet the Fantastically Bejeweled Skeletons of Catholicism’s Forgotten Martyrs | Past Imperfect
Meet the Fantastically Bejeweled Skeletons of Catholicism’s Forgotten Martyrs | Past Imperfect
Meet the Fantastically Bejeweled Skeletons of Catholicism’s Forgotten Martyrs | Past Imperfect
"On May 31, 1578, local vineyard workers discovered that a hollow along Rome’s Via Salaria, a road traversing the boot of Italy, led to a catacomb. The subterranean chamber proved to be full of countless skeletal remains, presumably dating back to the first three centuries following Christianity’s emergence, when thousands were persecuted for practicing the still-outlawed religion. An estimated 500,000 to 750,000 souls—mostly Christians but including some pagans and Jews—found a final resting place in the sprawling Roman catacombs. For hundreds of skeletons, however, that resting place would prove anything but final. The Catholic Church quickly learned of the discovery and believed it was a godsend, since many of the skeletons must have belonged to early Christian martyrs. In Northern Europe—especially in Germany, where anti-Catholic sentiment was most fervent—Catholic churches had suffered from plunderers and vandals during the Protestant Revolution over the past several decades.... more... - Eivind from Bookmarklet
"Communities believed that their patron skeleton protected them from harm, and credited it for any seeming miracle or positive event that occurred after it was installed. Churches kept “miracle books,” which acted as ledgers for archiving the patron’s good deeds. Shortly after Saint Felix arrived at Gars am Inn, for example, records indicate that a fire broke out in the German town.... more... - Eivind
Eric Logan
Cops: Jehovah's Witnesses Faced Bullet Barrage | The Smoking Gun - http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documen...
Cops: Jehovah's Witnesses Faced Bullet Barrage | The Smoking Gun
Cops: Jehovah's Witnesses Faced Bullet Barrage | The Smoking Gun
Baldwin, seen in the above mug shot, admitted firing 19 rounds “just behind” the car carrying the three Jehovah’s Witnesses. Baldwin added that he “was just letting them know he had a gun and was trying to get them off his property. - Eric Logan from Bookmarklet
Yeah, because that's the most sane way to go about it... - Heather
Good one, Heather. - MRW_8
Maitani
3quarksdaily: The New Dark Ages, Part I: From Religion to Ethnic Nationalism and Back Again - http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarks...
3quarksdaily: The New Dark Ages, Part I: From Religion to Ethnic Nationalism and Back Again
"European Historians have long eschewed the term "Dark Ages." Few of them still use it, and many of them shiver when they encounter it in popular culture. Scholars rightly point out that the term, popularly understood as connoting a time of death, ignorance, stasis, and low quality of life, is prejudiced and misleading." - Maitani from Bookmarklet
"In this essay I am taking the liberty of modifying the tem "Dark Ages" and applying to a modern as well as a historical context. I use it to refer to a general culture of fundamentalism permeating societies, old and new. By "Dark Age" I mean to describe any large scale effort to dim human understanding by submerging it under a blanket of fundamentalist dogma. And far from Europe of 1,500 years ago, my main purpose is to talk about far more recent matters around the world." - Maitani
Eddy63
Maitani
▶ Life Of Brian- 1979 Debate (1/4) - YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
▶ Life Of Brian- 1979 Debate (1/4) - YouTube
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The full debate from "Friday Night, Saturday Morning", 9th November 1979. - Maitani
"On the edition of 9 November 1979, hosted by Tim Rice, a discussion was held about the then-new film Monty Python's Life of Brian, which had been banned by many local councils and caused protests throughout the world with accusations that it was blasphemous. To argue in favour of this accusation were broadcaster and noted Christian Malcolm Muggeridge and Mervyn Stockwood (the then Bishop of Southwark). In its defence were two members of the Monty Python team, John Cleese and Michael Palin." - Maitani
"The first part is an interview with Cleese and Palin, the actual debate starts 3 minutes into part 2." - Maitani
It's been awhile. I had forgot that wonderful character that is the bishop! :D - Eivind
:D - Maitani
Not the Nine O'Clock News - Monty Pythons worshipers http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Maitani
Eddy63
Eric Logan
What Bible says about the Bible?... Great visualisation of the contradictions in the holy book: BibViz Project http://www.bibviz.com/ (via http://friendfeed.com/sonicmi...)
What Bible says about the Bible?... Great visualisation of the contradictions in the holy book: BibViz Project http://www.bibviz.com/ (via http://ff.im/1fMPr5)
Eivind
Dr. Eben Alexander Proof of Heaven Investigation - Proof of Heaven Factual Omissions - Esquire (Behind a paywall) - http://www.esquire.com/feature...
Dr. Eben Alexander Proof of Heaven Investigation - Proof of Heaven Factual Omissions - Esquire (Behind a paywall)
Dr. Eben Alexander Proof of Heaven Investigation - Proof of Heaven Factual Omissions - Esquire (Behind a paywall)
Dr. Eben Alexander Proof of Heaven Investigation - Proof of Heaven Factual Omissions - Esquire (Behind a paywall)
"On December 18, 2012, the set of Fox & Friends was both festive and somber. Festive because it was the Christmas season. The three hosts, two men in dark suits flanking a woman in a blue dress, sat on a mustard-colored couch in front of a cheery seasonal backdrop: a lit-up tree, silver-painted twigs, mounds of tinsel, blue and red swatches of fabric, and, here and there, multicolored towers of blown glass with tapering points that made them look surprisingly like minarets. Somber because a terrible thing had happened just four days earlier, in an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. All three hosts looked sad, but the woman, Gretchen Carlson, looked the saddest. The shot of the three hosts occupied most of the right three quarters of the screen. A guest was joining them by satellite from another location, and a shot of his head and shoulders occupied most of the rest of the screen. This was his third appearance on the program in the last few months. He wore a dark blazer and a... more... - Eivind from Bookmarklet
"We talk for hours. We talk about his past life and his present one, and about the strange voyage that divided the two. We talk about some of the stories he tells in Proof of Heaven, which has sold nearly two million copies and remains near the top of the New York Times best-seller list nearly a year after its release. We also talk about some of the stories you won't find in the book,... more... - Eivind
Pics or it didn't happen. - Joe
The Dalai Lama said something similar after hearing his story at the graduation ceremony at Maitripa College, a Buddhist college in Portland, Oregon. From the article: "He explains that Buddhists categorize phenomena in three ways. The first category are "evident phenomena," which can be observed and measured empirically and directly. The second category are "hidden phenomena," such as... more... - Eivind
Eivind
In Dying Brains, Signs of Heightened Consciousness – Phenomena: Not Exactly Rocket Science - http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013...
In Dying Brains, Signs of Heightened Consciousness – Phenomena: Not Exactly Rocket Science
"We often talk about death as a point in time. One moment you’re alive and the next, when your heart stops beating and your lungs stop breathing, you are clinically dead. This definition tempts us to view death as a clear-cut event, like the flip of a switch. That’s not how Jimo Borjigin, a neuroscientist at the University of Michigan, sees it. “Doctors assume that after clinical death, the brain is dead and inactive,” she says. “They use the term ‘unconscious’ again and again. But death is a process. It’s not a black-or-white line.” In a new study, Borjigin discovered that rats show an unexpected pattern of brain activity immediately after cardiac arrest. With neither breath nor heartbeats, these rodents were clinically dead but for at least 30 seconds, their brains showed several signals of conscious thought, and strong signals to boot. This suggests that our final journey into permanent unconsciousness may actually involve a brief state of heightened consciousness." - Eivind from Bookmarklet
Well, 30 seconds of "afterlife" is more than I expected. I'll take it :) - Eivind
There was an NPR piece on this yesterday that was fascinating. They discussed dreams in a way I hadn't heard before: One part of your brain is firing randomly and doing housekeeping, while another part is desperately trying to figure out what all this random stimulus means. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Building a story out of signals never intended for the narrative building circuitry? I've never thought of dreams in quite that way :) - Eivind
If we really believed that the brain shut off right when respirations and heartbeats cease, there'd never be any point in resuscitating anyone :D I think the estimate is about four to six minutes of no circulation before you get irreversible brain death. But I guess their point is that you're probably conscious for about 30 seconds after cessation of blood flow. Which means that it's probably true that when you get decapitated, you're still conscious as your head rolls away. - Victor Ganata
Sephen, that definitely explains the patchwork nature of dreams. - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
I thought about the "astonished faces" guillotine stories when I read this piece, Victor :) - Eivind
Victor: I've heard of a study that showed there are random neurons firing long after six minutes -- that even an hour later there are still some bursts of activity. That always made me think that consciousness continues on after death for a long while, just much slower (and with no sensory input or movement). I imagine it's terrifying at first to experience. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
^ This idea is part of the premise of a 1985 award-winning story first published in Omni by John Crowley: "Snow" http://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction... - Stephen Mack from iPhone
The random firing of neurons continues for a while, but you need a lot of neurons firing in synchrony to maintain consciousness, and the higher level functions are the ones that go down first because they cortex tends to exhaust its oxygen and glucose supplies first, just going by how the cerebral arteries run. - Victor Ganata
"Consciousness" is a pretty complex program, I suspect, needing a large set of neurons firing orderly. edit: Or ^ - Eivind
Well, dream-state consciousness maybe... - Stephen Mack from iPhone
The brain is just as active and ordered during REM sleep as it is during wakefulness, though. I suspect the random firing of neurons in the brain is just as ineffective at maintaining coherent thought as fibrillating heart muscle is ineffective at actually pumping blood. But I imagine there are significant barriers to ever knowing for sure. - Victor Ganata
An alternate explanation for the increased brain activity after circulation stops is that the ion pumps on the cell membrane stop working. This lets sodium and calcium flood into the neurons and depolarizes them, causing them to dump their neurotransmitters. The other thing is that a significant number of neurons in the brain are involved in sending inhibitory signals. Maybe they stop working first, letting the excitatory neurons fire at will. - Victor Ganata
Well, that's what Ecstasy is for :) - Victor Ganata
If you want a head twisting book to read, try "Proof of Heaven" written by a neurosurgeon and the brain events he had while very ill with bacterial meningitis. It is very clinical in his descriptions so he can dispel the science he was taught! - Janet from FFHound!
I remember that book, Janet. It didn't get a very good reception, and there's actually a link to an article criticizing it in this text: http://www.esquire.com/feature.... I'm not sure if he actually believes what he wrote, or if he's just extremely cynical, knowing 'proof' of what so many Americans want to believe is a gold mine. I suspect the latter. - Eivind
Eivind, I want to read that article, but it is for purchase. :( - Maitani
Yeah, that's too bad. I'm curious about it myself. - Eivind
I haven't managed to find an easy way to pay for interesting articles from USA or UK yet. I am willing to pay when I am really interested in a topic, but I eschew the inconvenience of the process. - Maitani
Paypal? I realize they charge you a bit for most things, but it's easy. I am also able to use my Norwegian VISA/MASTER Cards for almost everything these days. - Eivind
Maybe I need Paypal. :-) - Maitani
The article is well worth it, imo. - Eivind
I find it interesting and mildly amusing that Eivind is willing to pay for the cognitive security of a 30 second afterlife. ;-) - Eric Logan
You know I have a thing for non-prophets :) - Eivind from Android
It's free to believe you can live forever though. Possibly a little delusional, but free nonetheless. - Eric Logan
I can be expensive to believe that the right way, though. - Eivind
"...but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice." -- Carl - Ken Gidley
A detailed discussion and critique of the experiment by the Neurocritic http://neurocritic.blogspot.com/2013... - Victor Ganata
So we don't even really know that EEG gamma waves actually are involved in consciousness, much less in NDEs. - Victor Ganata
Yeah, the information is usually all in the modulation :) - Eivind
sofarsoShawn
[THIS your brain on "God". Say NO to "God".] http://is.gd/EOwU9Z Science Daily God as a drug: The rise of American megachurches ~ American megachurches use stagecraft, sensory pageantry, charismatic leadership and an upbeat, unchallenging vision of Christianity to provide their congregants with a powerful emotional religious experience - http://www.sciencedaily.com/release...
[THIS your brain on "God". Say NO to "God".] http://is.gd/EOwU9Z Science Daily God as a drug: The rise of American megachurches ~ American megachurches use stagecraft, sensory pageantry, charismatic leadership and an upbeat, unchallenging vision of Christianity to provide their congregants with a powerful emotional religious experience
God as a Drug: The Rise of American Megachurches ScienceDaily (Aug. 19, 2012) — American megachurches use stagecraft, sensory pageantry, charismatic leadership and an upbeat, unchallenging vision of Christianity to provide their congregants with a powerful emotional religious experience, according to research from the University of Washington. "Membership in megachurches is one of the leading ways American Christians worship these days, so, therefore, these churches should be understood," said James Wellman, associate professor of American religion at the University of Washington. "Our study shows that -- contrary to public opinion that tends to pass off the megachurch movement as consumerist religion -- megachurches are doing a pretty effective job for their members. In fact, megachurch members speak eloquently of their spiritual growth." Wellman and co-authors Katie E. Corcoran and Kate Stockly-Meyerdirk, University of Washington graduate students in sociology and comparative... more... - sofarsoShawn from Bookmarklet
Megachurches, or churches with 2,000 or more congregants, have grown in number, size, and popularity in recent years, coming to virtually dominate the American religious landscape. More than half of all American churchgoers now attend the largest 10 percent of churches. Megachurch services feature a come-as-you-are atmosphere, rock music, and what Wellman calls a "multisensory mélange"... more... - sofarsoShawn
Christianity + rock concert + laser light show=Sundays at Megachurches. - Chris Topher
Lol well Megadeath's lead singer "came out" recently as Christian evangelical homophobe so that sounds equation is correct :) - sofarsoShawn from iPhone
Sounds like they need a designated driver system to get all these people drunk on holy spiritus home. - Eivind
lol best keep off the roads today - sofarsoShawn from iPhone
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