Sean, if only I knew. This was delivered directly to me fresh and hot.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Wow, whatever you do, don't google "Asian guys at beach licking" if you want to find the Flickr account for this. No, seriously. Just...don't. o.O
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
changed my life forever...I will always go to the beach with a a few chubby buddies after porking myself up for those bosoms ~ and this image is most definitely going in the ol' spank bank
- sofarsoShawn
Remember ! I bring quality product to Friend Feed !:)
- Akiva Moskovitz
you know what would be funny: ok bear with me, if we blindfolded leather donut (you know the booby man) and...yeah fill in the blanks...something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- sofarsoShawn
Sir, randomly linking to your FriendFeed from one of my posts is oh wait you'll never see this because you're blocked for spamming. Thanks anyway, kaghazrangy.
- Akiva Moskovitz
damn this picture just won't go away - you have forced me to hide it
- William Harryman
Akiva, wasn't that pic taken at your last BBQ?
- Paul
Every time I see this picture I smile. Their joy is infectious, like herpes.
- Sparky
Paul, I surely do wish I had a beach in my back yard!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sparky, I'm going to have this blown up to poster-size and attaching it to the ceiling above our bed. That'll cause some infections!
- Akiva Moskovitz
makes me want to grow a rack and diddle with my own, know what I'm saying?
- sofarsoShawn
this. . . .this. . . ugh . . . so fucking wrong.
- Peter Ghosh
Akiva - you can put anything you want above our bed.
- Sparky
i've been trying to formulate a comment for this for days, but i just...can't.
- joey
I still want to know the motivation here. is this a gay marriage argument? or are we already pushing group social contracts on friendfeed?
- Noah David Simon
oh man this one keeps popping up on ma friendfeed,....must spread virus nao
- Chris Hofmann
I'm surprised no one's noticed old boy's red-framed glasses.
- Akiva Moskovitz
oh right... the glasses are so important when three asian men are licking his nipples and all the comments are by people who think gay marriage has something to do with equality... when it has everything to do with taking protections away from children. the red glass glasses.... um yeah. chicken and Oklahoma with milk
- Noah David Simon
Mark, you have uncovered the dark underbelly of humanity except in this case it isn't dark but is rather a pasty hue somewhere in the vicinity of undercooked flan.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm thinking that eventually, it will have been hidden by every user on FriendFeed. It'll be the most hidden post in FriendFeed history.
- Akiva Moskovitz
WHY WHY KEEP BRINGING BACK THE EYES THEY HURT ME
- Neal Jansons
from IM
Herpes (and this): the gifts that keep on giving.
- Sparky
I wonder if the FriendFeed guys see this and say to themselves, 'Well, this isn't exactly what we had in mind when we started started FriendFeed.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
I look at it and think, "Not again."
- Steven Perez
from IM
Just about the time you FF is getting some class .. Oh well we is what we is.
- Brent - Loving Life
I can't believe after all this time some diligent FF'er hasn't dug up the identities (I said "titties") of this bunch and invited them to join the service that made them famous. Mitchell Tsai, get to work!
- Sprague D
i think if you unlike and delete all your comments anna it'll go away, but hide in general would be nice too (this photo makes me smile every time it pops up so don't mind it)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
*sigh* This is never going away, is it? It's gonna end up like James Bond movies and Swedish meatballs - always existing in the same form. never diminshing, never forgotten. :( :( :(
- Steven Perez
from IM
It will go away, to be replaced with photoshops of the original. It's all part of the meme lifecycle.
- Sparky
I am too new on friendfeed to know anything about record comments.. I love gmail tho, puts all the comments in one threaded email and I can delete them all later in one shot or not if I choose..
- David Gross
from email
well we should aim to beat the record.. i mean jeez there are tons of things that could be said about this.. like.. does it taste like chicken?
- ed fry
I'm gonna have nightmares now. thanks ed. ;)
- Alejandro
ok, in Japanese: "an, an, soko dame!"
- Rick Cogley
You can't close this thread. A lot of people say that this place is a Scoble-fest but, truly, it is this thread that is at the very heart of FriendFeed.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm officially going to proclaim that this is the FF equivalent of Goatse or FFoatse if you will. Lets all refer to it as that from this point forward.
- Mark Krynsky
Sparky has left 57 comments. The rest of you are slacking. Hop to it!
- Christopher Harley
Chrisitan just walked by and said "It's too early in the morning for Japanese titty licking." It's NEVER too early for Japanese titty licking.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
THIS is the first thing I see here this morning?
- l0ckergn0me
Chris, you just woke up? C'mon, man! It's 10:30!
- Akiva Moskovitz
I knew he would break eventually - it's fitting that it's on this thread *now to find out how to hide a thread once you've commented....*
- WorldofHiglet
As much as I am loathe to bump this post, I have to do it to say, You, sir, are a master. Well played, sir. Well played. This is why I take every opportunity to say, in my next life, I want to be Akiva. I've already called it! Don't anybody go getting any more ideas.
- ♥patricia♥
I, for one, refuse to "bump" posts...it's very unseemly...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
I wish FF-search allowed to do GROUP BY -aggregations so I could COUNT(*) who are the biggest *bump*ers. :)
- Jemm
Makes me laugh everytime I see it. Such a happy yet silly scene by the sea.
- Toby Graham
There is nothing silly about it. This is serious business.
- Sparky
The more I see this, the more I like it. Not for the ironic nipple-licking, but because these kids are genuinely enjoying themselves. :) Carry on.
- felicious
This photo looks so much better in iPhone 3.0!#!~
- Akiva Moskovitz
Seriously dude. What do I have to do to get rid of this disgusting picture!? Doh! Now I've just pushed it back to the top... yuck, I'm so sickened.
- Jason Nunnelley
I love this image, because I have no clue why it's happening. Randomness FTW!!
- Jimminy Fuller
from twhirl
I'm just thinking of all the new folks coming to friend feed and see this and wonder just what the hell did I get into anyway? And why in Gods name can't I spell Friend correctly the first time - GRRRRRR
- Brent - Loving Life
Can't believe I never hit 'like' on this! Consider the situation rectumfied.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Oops! I hope I didn't just bump this up again... ;-)
- Sprague D
It's just so refreshing to see genuine juvenile humour at work. These kids are no different from any other, I think it's a great happy image, given all the other shite happening in this world on a daily basis. For those that are too pompous and prudish, 'up yours with brass knobs'
- ImJustCreative
Wow. 666. Nice! Actually, the reason Asashoryu is getting a divorce ( http://ff.im/4T0UA ), is because he wants to spend time with this lot.
- Rick Cogley
To this day, the pic still comes back. Just like Herpes. :D
- Danny Minick
Although unlike herpes this photo is fun to share with friends.
- Sparky
I would rather go to http://woot.com and buy the Acer Aspire One for $259.99, I do not care that it is a refurb.. but what would I do with two laptops? Maybe #hive knows? hmm..
- David Gross
from email
What's this? A real question in this thread? Two extra laptops? Make them fancy digital photo frames.
- Jordan Hofker
Reason #696 why the Internet can grant you immortality. ;-)
- darnell
from BuddyFeed
I can't believe this thing is still floating around Friendfeed. These poor guys... ha ha ha
- Bradley Farless
@SeanMcGee sorry about the spam, this thread is sorta spammy.. I get the messages in email perfect for replying with any message because it then gets posted on twitter and facebook.. I do not do it all the time, look at my other posts in this stream..
- David Gross
from email
Lactating, males last resort to save ourselves, now that they can create sperm in labs.
- Jimminy Fuller
This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started feeding it, not knowing what it was, and they'll continue feeding it forever just because...This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started feeding it, not knowing what it was, and they'll continue feeding it forever just because...This is the thread that...
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- David Gross
from email
I have 89 :( emails since july 10th.. that includes the ones I sent.
- David Gross
from email
gmail comes in handy, it keeps all the email in conversations, 100 messages at a time but because the subject " :( " it will not filter out so they dont go to inbox.
- David Gross
from email
*THOUGHT FOR THE DAY...* Women are like phones: They like to be held, talked to, and touched often. But push the wrong button and your ass is disconnected.
- David Gross
from email
all this oral stuff is just begging the question of when do they start with the money shots?
- Noah David Simon
I just use this image as a way to announce crap. no one really pays attention to my feed... except my enemies. so when I have something important to say I tell the Asian Titty lickers. it is my strong belief that this thread needs it's very own domain name. something like http://xrl.us/TittyLickers
- Noah David Simon
You know, every time this pops up, since FF hides the middle of the comments of which there are 804 or so, I see Akiva say "I'm sorry." at the top. It makes me wonder about how some things are just not possible to apologize for!
- Rick Cogley
wow, I can't believe tomorrow is Friday :o) no, wait, somewhere in the world it's ALREADY Friday :o)
- David Gross
from email
Thanks Rick, thats what I thought.. does that mean I can start with the #followfriday on twitter or do I have to wait till it is Friday here in NJ? would be funny to post it from this post LOL all my friendfeed goes to twitter..
- David Gross
from email
David - yeah, you can get an early start.
- Rick Cogley
Rick, I am not good at lists or #followfriday but there are lotsa good people in this thread.
- David Gross
from email
the thing that strikes me about this (aside from the obvious) is after seeing this thing pop up like 35-40 times since March its just occurred to me that I don't have any (guy) friends that a) would lick my nipples b) would lick my nipples for a photograph. Maybe I should get out more...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
I'm a little scared that I've this has gotten more than 800 comments and almost 200 likes over nearly five months and I still haven't clicked "Hide."
- Scott of Two Countries
It's just a bit of fun. I mean watching how many comment, not the picture content (although I suspect that is all that was too!)
- Ian May
Allright, you guys ready to shoot "mirth and girth"?
- Rick Cogley
For the life of me, I'll never understand the emotion people have around this picture for or against. There's no nudity at all, not even implied nudity. Less dude nudity than a beer commercial or cigarette ad, yet there are people who really really really hate this picture.
- Matthew DeVries
I found a way to get a Tit Theme, and it involves this picture.
- Jimminy Fuller
Hahahaha! It's like a telethon. And after Joey Bishop goes off stage, they flash this picture on the screen. "Won't you think of the CHILDREN?"
- Spidra Webster
It's been a while, hope the magnetism still prevails...
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
I just had to bump this once more... gives me a whole new excuse to go look at Phoebe again!
- Mark "Godt Nyt Ǻr"
Hmmm, where do you think they're from? My guess is Japan...
- sofarsoShawn
The bumping algorithm includes things like novel people posting to it, in addition to thread age, and rapidity of comments. If the same 3 people are talking in a thread, it quits bumping because it's obviously a closed tea party.
- Matthew DeVries
I forgot, also you're a very handsome guy(saw the wedding images), I don't understand why you don't like to share your face. Rochelle is a lucky lady.
- Jimminy Fuller
Jimminy, it's an irrational phobia. No different than people who are afraid of heights, spiders, clowns, or Canada.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, now I'm LMAO at the fear of Canada. People are actually afraid of Canada, or just the fact they don't know if they're British or French?
- Jimminy Fuller
I don't think even Canadians know that difference.
- Akiva Moskovitz
If Friendfeed had sound .. this thread would be all licks and slurps
- Mattb4rd
Sorry Akiva, I think it was the display picture.. I have known male and female Akivas.. Oh and by the way guys I am not afraid of Canada LOL will be there this weekend.. Dave Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes...> - "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day."
- David Gross
from email
I popped the 666 cherry and I will get 1000 also.
- Jimminy Fuller
If it gets to 1000 will Akiva lock it so it can sink from our feeds forever? Please?!?
- WorldofHiglet
I think locking this post would be un-FriendFeedian.
- Jason Huebel
This is the immortal post everyone who uses the service must see it so WoH it just wouldn't be good to lock it.
- Jimminy Fuller
Not everyone see's it, only the people with true class do.
- Sparky
It keeps on going and going and going....
- David Gross
from email
In the Hall of Great Posts at the FriendFeed museum, this shall be hung high on the wall with pride.
- Johnny Worthington
I'M THE ROCK AND ROLL CLOWN.. AND I LIKE COCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINE
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
*Wispering to Murderface* "Seriously man, I do... A LOT of cocaine."
- Matt Stoddard
It is now September 1st, and this has not reached 1000 comments. I am sorely disappointed. Yet, for some reason, I am uplifted by the smile of this young man, who was fortunate enough to have such great friends that fateful day on the beach.
- Josh Haley
Quick let's add some comments... Gee that guy on the far left is not really getting into the swing of things is he?
- Travis Koger
Travis... bear in mind that we don't know what "main chubby guy's" right hand is doing, or where it's doing whatever it's doing...
- Mark "Godt Nyt Ǻr"
BUT WE CAN INFER WHAT "MAIN CHUBBY GUY'S" HANDS ARE DOING. BOTH OF THEM.
- Sparky
@Mark, of interest (well not really) is the location of Front Left guy's left hand.
- Travis Koger
The photo of Akiva in the jacuzzi with the Texas A&M cheerleaders would be so much more popular. Now if only someone would post it.
- Christopher Harley
Noooooooooooooooooooooo! Posted March 1st and we are still enduring the wrath! "Akiva's posts, now with more staying power than ever before!"
- Nicholas Kreidberg
YAY! OVER 1000 COMMENTS BLAAAARGBLBLLB
- Josh Haley
It feels like Groundhog Day whenever I see this.
- Andru Edwards
Except that unlike Groundhog Day this is AWESOME!
- Sparky
This thread was how I discovered Akiva. ROFL... Y.M.C.A.! BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP! GAZE AT IT! DON'T LOOK AWAY! >:O I SED DON'T LOOK AWAY!!! ... ^_^
- Danny Minick
You have nothing to fear - I never look away.
- Sparky
On Fark, there was this one thread, that just kept growing and growing. On Fark, it was a single page per thread. And you could post images and gif inline. Well the thread wouldn't die, people just kept posting. I forget which one it was. Anyway, it got so monsterous, that few people going to read/post to it per day (which was only a handfull) accounted for 1/3 of the server load of the site. They eventually had to cull that thread.
- Matthew DeVries
I think everyone who has participated in this thread has 'culled' themselves privately.
- Akiva Moskovitz
What with all the copycat images this has inspired I hope our muse continues to stick around and not get lost in the shuffle of so many knockoffs.
- Sparky
SHUT UP SPARKY!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!
- Andru Edwards
I refuse to shut up about the glory that is this thread. REFUSE.
- Sparky
Yes, Vezquex, I'm jealous of those guys, it is warm there, nothing like a warm beatch..
- David Gross
from email
Yes, Sparky, they do not know how good they have it there frolicking on the beach while we freeze up here.. Hard to believe it is only 49 degrees, feels like 29.. I bet it's at least 85 degrees on that beach.
- David Gross
from email
Anyone who doesn't appreciate this thread is clearly not developing a FriendFeed iPhone client because this is a great stress test case. (It crashes BuddyFeed, by the way.)
- Akiva Moskovitz
from iPhone
Also it exercises the crap out of your thumb trying to scroll down to the bottom of it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
from iPhone
Do you need to appreciate the pic in order to appreciate the thread?
- Travis Koger
If I un-collapse this thread, will it break my computer?
- Eivind
Every time this thread gets a bumped, god kills a kitten
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, you may have given some people more reason to keep bumping this thread.
- Victor Ganata
How does it give you thumb exercise? Whatever you're doing, why don't you either use the keyboard or switch to Linux so you can middle-click the scrollbar to jump to where you want? :P
- Tanath
actually this thread does not bother me because I get it in email and gmail groups them and starts new thread after every 100 comments. I have it autoarchived so I do not have to see on phone lol and just see when I look at my ffeed label in gmail.
- David Gross
from email
disgusting? HOW DARE YOU, SIR! That is j-love! and it's beautiful (in it's own way.. a way that shouldn't be seen in public)
- Kyle Johnson
this is probably the most popular feed of 2009 in FF. lol.
- Bora Mesut PALAS
I think the one where Robert Scoble gave away money easily beats this one, but this post has staying power. ;-)
- Jason Huebel
I think that Chinese at FF post was a marriage proposal thing. They were all trying to bump the guy's photo so that it would be the first thing his girlfriend would see when she logged onto FF.
- Kamilah Gill
On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me, 1 salty beach, 2 pairs of glasses, 3 lords a licking, 4 chubby men, 5 santa hats(O_o), 6 rolls of fat, 7 ????, and 8 moobs to view.
- Jimminy Fuller
Hey, I'd be willing to let random guys suck on my nipples if it meant I'd lose all my extra weight. *waits for wiseass random guys to suggest it DOES mean that*
- Spidra Webster
נתתי לו למצוץ את הפטמות שלי, אם לתת להם לשחק על החוף. לפחות לא כל כך קר על החוף.
- David Gross
from email
@Raphael I am not amused. That's an abuse of an idea that could have resulted in people tagging some of the best educational threads on friendfeed, to filter the best most intelligent conversations to be found here. Don't spoil it, not even as a joke.
- April Russo (app103)
"Reporting from Las Vegas - The auctioneer gazed out at the audience, knowing this was the moment they'd waited for. Next up, he said, was lot No. 23 -- a "wonderful, exceptional, 66-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex skeleton known as Samson." He gestured to the ferocious-looking skull sitting on a stand to his left. "There she is," he said. The people who had gathered in the elegant gallery at the Venetian hotel gasped. Samson is one of the three most complete T. rex specimens ever discovered, possessing the most intact skull in existence. But auctions are unpredictable, and dinosaurs are expensive. So an ugly prospect hung in the air Saturday: Might Samson not sell? On Friday, Thomas Lindgren, the curator in charge, and auctioneer Patrick Meade had talked about just that between meetings with prospective buyers. People from across the world had expressed interest in Samson, but nobody was committed to bidding."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
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I would say that this is the universal sign for get the hell off the road. Even if it came down on the right, anybody driving behind would also be taken out I would think.
- Travis Koger
Just read Micah's comment. If this is being delivered to Ted Stevens, that truck is going to have to take the highway up to Alaska through Canada. The Mounties may object.
- John E. Bredehoft
One never knows. the delivery may be the next drive-way after the stop sign made on 10 to 14 wheels instead of 18 - the rig hasn't tipped yet
- Mac Sharp
Obviously a very conservative truck driver, leaning oh so far to the right. See what fear and loathing that would bring? Must be listening to r*u*s*h (talk show dude, not band)
- Rob Schieber
Venkat: that's a Guy Kawasaki trick. If you want your brand to be better you must tie your brand to someone with an even better brand. Who has a better brand than Tiger?
- Robert Scoble
The Tiger Woods of Twitter? Uh...is there some sort of award for number or quality of tweets? Who should I be bribing?
- Tyler Hurst
Tyler: bring cupcakes to @biz and @ev :-)
- Robert Scoble
I wonder if @foiledcupcakes delivers that far...they are fantastic.
- Tyler Hurst
I love being reminded just how much an ass Kawasaki is.
- Allan Jenkins
Arrogance aside, at least he's upfront about everything he does. I appreciate that much.
- Chris Duffy
It will be a happy day when people stop typing LOL unnecessarily in so, so many online conversations.
- Tyler Hurst
WTF? how true.but IMHO that isn't gonna happen. LOL
- RAD Moose
Know what? I NEVER thought about that. Robert's point about bringing the brand up higher. Holy crap. BTW, my version of a "How I Tweet" faq will post in a few days.
- Chris Brogan
That's a site in the making howitweet.com. I think most people would find the feedback from users without massive followings surprisingly refreshing.
- Benjamin Taylor
"Participants to the sneak preview of 'The Ledge,' stand on the new glass balconies suspended 1,353 feet (412 meters) in the air and jut out 4 feet (1.22 meters) from the Sears Tower's 103rd floor Skydeck Wednesday, July 1, 2009 in Chicago. The Ledge will open to public on Thursday."
- AJ Batac
from Bookmarklet
I'd do a poopoo in my pants but I would do it...
- Rasmus Lauridsen
maybe it is a good way to saved suffering from acrophobia :D
- Nursel Özdemir
very interesting and scary at the same time
- t i n y m
Good stuff. Also: try being on the engineering team at shipping port and having to climb all over 100m cranes (did in 2006). You'll grow an extra pair
- LANjackal
I think I'd go out on it. Maybe. Looks pretty awesome. Love seeing the little girl with no fear. Little kids would zip around fearlessly in jet packs if we had em.
- Tad
I think I would die if I stepped out on that, but I would try anyway.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Bear with me a moment while I attempt to retrieve my scrotum from my abdominal cavity...
- Mark "Godt Nyt Ǻr"
This is so awesome. I would kill to have something like that in Montreal
- Robert D'Alesio
You probably couldn't get me to go further than the 5th floor, let alone, the 103rd floor, plus out on a glass floor hanging over the city. Sorry Mr Wonka, but I'll take the stairs.
- Tim Young
I hope they keep a cleaning crew or a mop handy.
- George Brickner
*Gulp* I doubt I'd last even 2 minutes standing on that...
- Tyson Key
Is there a making of for this video? It's incredibly amazing...
- Rodrigo Leme
Very cool Zee, thanks for sharing : )
- Mark Harai
That is one awesome music video. It definitely shows its creative genius. I bet they didn't have to spend millions of dollars to make that unlike your typical corporate commercials.
- imabonehead
"They say an elephant never forgets. But apparently Thais have no problem in forgetting the elephant. Though the elephant is the national symbol of Thailand, the country has gone panda-crazy - so crazy that indignant zookeepers have taken the unusual step of painting elephants to look like pandas. The stunt has resulted in panda-monium as the zookeepers try to draw the country's attention back to its neglected giants."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
The last time people reacted this way to a famous music star dying was the day Elvis died. I was in elementary school and still remember my neighbors playing his music. Michael meant more to my life than Elvis.
It's a very weird night for news like this. But I agree, Michael was an icon, still is..
- Mark Aitken
Especially during the Thriller days. If you weren't there, you don't understand how crazy everyone was over MJ.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
I'm wondering when the riots will start in LA..
- Mark Aitken
Somehow I'm completely without emotion regarding MJ's death. No idea why.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Same here Mona - I don't remember feeling this way about any celebrity's death before.
- Jesse Stay
Robert, what about John Lennon's death? That was also a huge jolt at the time.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
I'm sure there are watershed moments for every generation. Elvis passing was more a Baby Boomers thing (IMO) while MJ is probably more a GenX thing. No doubt these things will impact everyone differently. Still, it's odd waking up to such news this morning.
- Threepwood
Is it really that big of a deal? The guy was a freak and a child molester. Sure he was huge in the Thriller days, but his star is not only not as bright, but a little tarnished as well.
- MarkCarras
For me and my crew, the day Jerry Garcia died was met with a similar reaction. For me it was much more profound.
- nicholas einstein
Yep. This is hitting me the way it hit me when Princess Di passed away. I was rather oblivious to Elvis, myself.
- Helen Sventitsky
John: yes. I think Elvis was bigger though.
- Robert Scoble
I liked his Thriller album and videos, but after that he seemed to go downhill. And the child molestation thing tainted how I felt about it.
- RobinDotNet
This has more impact than Kurt Cobain
- Ian Tindale
50 is young. But Michael started his professional career at an extremely young age, so he's a true flash.
- Louis Gray
I always consider Michael Jackson to be the king of the bassline
- Ian Tindale
I like his music too, but I don't like his actions.
- Andy
I agree completely with Mona and Jesse, this is the first time that I feel like someone really close died, even though I never got a chance to meet him.
- Diego Espinoza V.
@MarkCarras ...and Elvis died on his toilet or something. So close to his passing most people are choosing to remember the GOOD things he did in his life.
- Bryan Zirkel
I wonder if people will try to whitewash over his history as a child molester and just focus on his fame?
- MarkCarras
The thing here is we've all seen his life through a glass window. He's been a very public figure, but with a private part to his life. I think we all recognise how much was lost tonight.
- Mark Aitken
I've never understood the way people worshipped him even now, years after he has done anything successful.
- RobinDotNet
Very strange day, sad. MJ was incredibly talented... a true star.
- Susan Beebe
it has been discussed 4 a few hrs already. RIP King of Pop
- polou/indigo_bow
Same age here, and that was a strange weekend. There's nowhere near the social influence in this case. No movies to pay over and over all weekend.
- Jason Nunnelley
What about when John Lennon died? Was that bigger than MJ's death?
- Sam Houston
I remember all too well when Elvis died, I was 9 years old, standing on Paige street in Lindsay, California, playing with my friends. Weird, how you remember things like that?
- Rob Fahrni
No disrespect to MJ but I think the same reaction would be happing right now if it was Madonna.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I also must remind myself about where I was when John Lennon died.
- Helen Sventitsky
I wonder if Madonna would get more coverage, actually... I preferred her as an artist.
- Tamar Weinberg
I'm too young to really have been a part of the big days of MJ, but I still LOVED his music. I hope he's remembered fondly. lots of stuff in the media about him that's not good. I choose to ignore a lot of it
- Chris Brakebill
Can't believe it really happened. Bigger for me than elvis, lennon, cobain or even diana. I hope people remember him for the brilliant musician that he was and not his other antics.
- Raj Narayan
Wow, has anyone realised we can measure the coverage of these celebs now with the tools we are all using? I'll bet we see lots on the news tomorrow about the social web coverage of tonight's story.
- Mark Aitken
Folks, the real reason we react with such a deep personal response when a celeb like this dies is that it smacks us in the face with our own mortality. We identify ourselves a little with these celebs, whether we like, approve or even appreciate them as artists. I've been listening to Michael Jackson music since he was a teenager. I don't like seeing artists that were popular when I was a teen dying because it reminds me my time/era is fading just like that of my parents.
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason - same feeling here. Very close to home for some reason.
- Mark Aitken
@MarkCarras what happened to the presumption of innocence? He was never tried on the first case due to lack of evidence, and acquitted on all counts on the second one
- Juan Tarrío
@Helen - I remember the Diana situation too, and all the hype around it.
- Tyson Key
Wow, what a bold statement. Jason, do you know me? Do you know the reason why this hits so close to home for me? What if I told you the very first cassette tape given to me by my dead mom was Michael Jackson's Thriller? Think twice before yapping like a know it all.
- Mona Nomura
i think of john lennon & frank sinatra in comparison to how big a legend michael was. the difference is, i grew up listening to michael jackson. sad day.
- Jim Halligan @jim
Mona, I'm not sure how your statement is incongruous with my own. Sounds like you agree.
- Jason Nunnelley
Juan Tarrio -- I would have felt that way too, if according to papers on the smokinggun from the first child molestation trial (the one he settled out of court) didn't reveal that the kid knew personal specific details about MJ's personal parts. Ick. I can't believe I just typed that.
- RobinDotNet
For me it was the loss of Peter Sellers and John Lennon. I think because they had so much more to give us.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
My personal idol of the early 90s who never had a real private life now gets what he deserves - liberty for the rest of his...being
- Naii
His music was the soundtrack to a large part of my life. What a difficult life. RIP.
- Marlin Forbes
John Lennons death was under different circumstances, he was murdered and also coming back with a record from what I heard reported on Sky. I was too young for John Lennon so for me the closest comparison is with Princess Diana. RIP
- Joe Dawson
Never an Elvis fan, but I was a huge Beatle fan, so John Lennon's death was a shock to me. I do enjoy Michael Jackson's music.....unfortunately I found the man questionable at best, but also feel sad for him dying at such an early age. At least he no longer has to suffer whatever personal demons drove him.
- Bonnie Foster
People were pretty hung up when Lennon passed. Same with when Aaliyah and Lisa Lefteye Lopez passed away. I sincerely disagree with the sentiment that the last time there was a unified mourning of a musician was Elvis.
- Mattie Kenny
from fftogo
Aaliyah dying seemed to have a pretty big impact, even though it was soon overshadowed by 9/11. I remember seeing a lot of baby girls born after 2001 named Aaliyah.
- Victor Ganata
Mona, Jessie... Hits close to home with me too. And it also hits me like when Princess Diana died.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Michael Jackson? I can understand the Beatles, Stones, Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Dylan, the Grateful Dead and dozens of others. But the King of Pap?
- George F. Snell III
@George - CNN pointed out that Thriller is the best selling album in history at 50 million. Love him or hate him that's a big impact.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
No denying he was bigger than life - what a strange world he lived in - seems like he got lost somewhere along the way...
- Mark Harai
I see several people on this thread wondering why "GenX" is so impacted by MJ's passing, here is a reason why (http://www.youtube.com/watch...). He was hands down the best performer, crowd-puller, the 80s has known. When it comes to celebrities, I like to view the artist separate from the person, and as an artist, he was up there with the very best.
- Shivanand Velmurugan
definitely a noticeable generational and country gap here
- Bill Kinney
i was having an early dinner at a restaurant when i saw this on the local news....couldnt believe it.....truly sad and socking
- goutham
thought the same thing Robert. I was at the roller-rink when Elvis died. I will probably always remember where I was when MJ died - the gym.
- BEX
My favorite reaction from this news: "Don't worry, he's still alive on YouTube" - my four-year old nephew from Perth, Australia about Michael Jackson RIP.
- Iggy Pintado
I remember that reaction too and some don't seem to understand that Michael was an international superstar, who brings back incredible memories of our childhood. At 45 I literally grew up with his music and am shaken by his death.
- Karen Swim
I remember when John Lennon died in 1980, and it was much bigger for me than Elvis dying. He was assassinated, and it was announced on Monday Night Football by Howard Cosell. Lots of people were devastated by it. It's ridiculous to skip over it. The Beatles were the most well known band in the world, and in that moment, we knew they could never get back together because John Lennon was the leader of the Beatles, and now he was dead.
- Cristo
Like Cristo I remember the day Lennon died. Walked into the student coffee shop on campus and it was like a morgue. Yet, I grew up with Michael. I remember sock hops at lunch time. My first slow dance was with a boy to the Jackson 5 song, I'll Be There. Michael's death makes me face my own mortality. Michael's death is the end of an era.
- Arleen Boyd
I was stuck on the Test Track ride at Epcot when I heard the Michael Jackson news.
- Mike Reynolds
There's no doubt about Jackson's talent and if it hadn't been for his (for lack of a better word) eccentricities in the last several decades in my opinion there would be an entirely different bent to the epitaphs today. I kept thinking over the years, if he could just remain.. well.....normal...... but, would normal have produced Thriller? Billie Jean? The glove? Moonwalking? The...
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- Molly
As a musician, Elvis meant more to my life. But Michael was.. simply Great. RIP.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
@Daniel Oh, I don't doubt his impact on pop music - although I think his impact is more on packaging, marketing and style rather than in the music. I just don't understand the blind devotion of his fans.
- George F. Snell III
I suspect there are 1000s of people who meant more to my life than any pop star you can give me a name for. And I certainly don't know their names. What's the hashtag for that?
- Wade Dorrell
Of course there are 1000s of people who meant more to our lives. The reason we feel a sense of loss when celebrities like MJ pass is because his songs bring back certain memories from our lives. Brings back memories of my childhood. Less about MJ and more about his music and the memories.
- Curt Mercadante
Andy: Are you okay? You don't like his actions...did you ever see the man dance?
- Garin Kilpatrick
There are some people you're just glad that they are gone, not because you dislike them, but exactly because you _do_ like them. The guy was pushed into the showbiz by his dad, had no childhood, had no privacy, and the only people he cared about (i.e. children that lived crappy lives) were used against him to the demise of his career. MJ is far better away from this place we call Earth.
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
I was a 13 year old on the family trip driving trip that summer that started in connecticut, went through florida, across to arizona and then back across the center of the country. We woke up in Oklahoma city flipped on the TV and got the announcement that Elvis had died. Our next stop was supposed to be Memphis...
- Armen Chakmakjian
Don't forget Kurt Cobain. I actually cried when he died. I won't cry for Michael Jackson. :-/
- Dane Deasy
I clearly need to get to bed because I saw this at the top of the page and thought, "Wait. It's Sunday already? Where did the week go?" ooph.
- ♥patricia♥
Conventional logic holds that people don't carry baseballs around with them. Conventionally, would you think a person with pockets full of baseballs as "normal"? Do you carry everything you own in case you have to logically prove to someone that you own it in the event that some conventional debate arises?
- Darian Rawson
Omg I found it. Derrick, one more! :)
- Mona Nomura
Are you familiar with "Russell's Teapot?" : "If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion...
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- Christopher A Carr
I've never known a christian to react like that when someone asks to prove Gods existence. If someone is sincerly asking the question we'll usually talk about why we believe. If someone is being hostile I'll walk away.
- ChiliMac
ChiliMac, on a serious note, it's really dependent on the parties conversing. I've openly had many discussions on religion. It's also helpful to comprehend the other party's(ies') views and backgrounds, to have amicable discussions. :)
- Mona Nomura
Mona: You are absolutely right, it does depend on the parties. I believe most people still know how to and are polite and respectful of one another. I was having this conversation with a friend from my church the other night. His roommate had criticized him for reading books by Dawkins. We disagreed with him. We should understand those who have different opinions then ours and be respectful to one another.
- ChiliMac
could also be titled "conventional logic vs evolutionist logic" or "conventional logic vs global warming logic". i see more unfounded dogma from these two groups than any other.
- Brooks Bayne
Yeah, Brooks... or "conventional logic vs. round Earth logic," or "conventional logic vs. heliocentric solar system logic." I'm sick of dogmatic round-Earth liberals! If the Earth is so round, why don't Australians fall into space? Eh? Answer that secular libs!
- Christopher A Carr
Definitely something Richard Dawkins would approve of! :) And @ChristopherCarr - the Celestial Teapot was the first thing I thought of when I saw this.
- jack
the guy in front:"no way man, you gotta pay me ten times more to do that." the kid holding the tail:"damn i don't have my cellphone with me. this one is going to look good on youtube."
- vjay
"Jerboas have the ability to hop considerable distances relative to its size, an ability that evolved as an adaptation to help them escape from predators, and to assist with long journeys and foraging in its desert environment. Although jerboas are not closely related to the hopping mice of Australia or the kangaroo rats of North America, all three groups have evolved a similar set of...
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- Ken Morley
Click on each video, then make sure that you click on the "HD" button to see them in HD goodness. I was using a Canon 5D MKII with a 16-35 mm F2.8 L series lens for these because we were so close (literally feet away). I also had a Rode microphone on my camera to try to get better audio (although the audio doesn't do the actual experience justice and at home you can't smell the jet fuel fumes).
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Seems that sound is an issue with the Canon 5D MKII, anything else that you noticed that one should know about?
- courtney benson
Reason the sound is total bonkers is that it's so loud (jet engines, right...) that you get the equivalent of +140dB or smth, where +-0dB is the absolute maximum without distorsion. A compressor would do the trick, but that's not something I see Canon installing by default. Let's just say the Canon 5D MkII sound recording works fine in most "normal" circumstances...
- Oskar Lissheim-Boethius
Ignore this stuff at your own peril. Any entrepreneur who proceeds without having read Ries & Trout on Branding and Positioning is making a massive, possibly lethal mistake...
- Alex Schleber
from Bookmarklet
Because of time constraints I'm trying to NOT be comprehensive, but just give a taste of the best of the tech industry innovation lately and what it could mean to their businesses.
- Robert Scoble
ask them how they are measuring all this stuff.
- Brian Watkins
Brian: will do, but in many ways we are too early for measuring. I bet they haven't even heard of a lot of this stuff.
- Robert Scoble
Nick: that's probably true, but they signed up a million people so are an example of a consumer service that's done well.
- Robert Scoble
David: I might mention them, but I'm not trying to be comprehensive.
- Robert Scoble
I think open standards need a mention since Microformats is now even supported by Google. Automating to extract information from structured data brings great opportunities.
- Burcu Dogan
Scoble: I think you have to have Twitter, they all know it but it has to be there, it is a platform that engages and ties with a lot of what is in your talk
- Lou Paglia
Mobile is way under-emphasized... I think that's gonna start getting bigger and bigger and bigger...
- Joel Haasnoot
Joel: I agree, I could spend 16 hours just on mobile. :-)
- Robert Scoble
++Joel completely agree. mobile is bigger than ever now and 2010
- Lou Paglia
Have you added calibration tools for product demos and training ?
- William Lopez
William: no, what kind of tools are you thinking of?
- Robert Scoble
Have fun, remember most people hate sitting in their seats more than 20 minutes, make they get up and down a little. Ask one of them to come up and do pushups.
- Halley Suitt
ome emphasis on Web Services - and agree on the Mobile detail required!
- Manoj Menon
Just don't let them challenge YOU to a push-up battle ... no fun, even for me.
- Halley Suitt
could have major topic not about tools but "paradigm shifts", the breakdown of the walls between the enterprise and the rest of the web, 2010 CIOs will contend more than ever with not being able to put four walls around their corporate constituents
- Lou Paglia
I underplay mobile because I could spend hours on just that. Heheh. I have 30 minutes.
- Robert Scoble
Lou: absolutely! That will be a subtext to everything.
- Robert Scoble
Hmm, but mobile is moving more and more to tailor-made-mobile, not just a bare bones version of the website: maybe that's a paradigm shift you could mention.
- Joel Haasnoot
If CIO's aren't careful, paradigm shifts become paradigm shafts, as they take a sudden beating in a marketplace.
- Halley Suitt
there is the issue of "mixed discovery" I am missing; a ping pong of subjects and peoples when you use twitter e.g.; you go from @person to #issue to @ person etc ... - that is a new kind of serendipity; could be used to have new ideas about marketing
- Willi Schroll
You forgot to show the Oprah-fication of any modern technology.
- Pete Barry
I am missing the integration bit ... not sure it really exists yet. The problem is that this is way too many tools for any one company. so possibly just a missing item.
- Oliver Thylmann
@halley they can either be part of the movement and coach their organizations through the changes as a thought leader or many can continue to try to put up "sand bags" and there is where the your term, shaft, will come.
- Lou Paglia
What about Hulu under video? For me it's an important piece. :)
- James Furlo
I just gave a similar talk here in LA yesterday. My take on it as a former CIO is how the consumer/general internet systems are tackling the problems that have plagued enterprise. From single sign on to data portability, transparency, collaboration and real time communication. They need to start looking at these systems as the model for the new enterprise in 2010 and beyond.
- Jerry Schuman
In cloud, what about development availability, S3, EC2, gist, gnip, the glue movement, shared data center and server resources (there's your Rackspace plug)
- Lou Paglia
Boxee might be a good topic as they are trying to make it a media player with a social web component.
- dthree
Lou: that's another area I underplayed on purpose because I could spend an hour there. Personally it'll lead us down a rathole and keep us from talking about the bigger trends. If they start deploying anything new they'll need hosting and we'll be involved in the conversation then.
- Robert Scoble
David: Boxee is a good one to discuss.
- Robert Scoble
an overall theme is the shift in technology moving consumer to enterprise rather than the other way around. For companies its more important than ever to look at what startups/small biz are doing vs thinking "they'll be using my big system in 5 years".
- William Kapes
Should Boxee really be on a CIO's radar at this point, is convergence of web with the digital home even part of the CIO conversation, should it be?
- Lou Paglia
Sometimes I wonder if CIO's really grok the way the folks they support WORK day to day. Sometimes we're at home w/a crying baby, sometimes on the road w/customers, sometimes in the office. As a sales marketing geek for years, I always wanted to scream, "Hey guys, I'm in a rental car on a frigging windy road north of Portland in a thunderstorm trying to connect to the system to get the new pricing sheet, do you GET my life? Help me out here!"
- Halley Suitt
Are you using MindManager for your mindmaps, Robert?
- Rohit
Lou: good point, gotta stay focused a BIT on business, but the changes in TV do have implications. I just was at Adobe and they are enabling 1080p high def to both browsers and TV.
- Robert Scoble
Rohit: yes, this is done with MindManager.
- Robert Scoble
The ideas behind technologies like Wolfram|Alpha and Hunch
- Mike Smith
Robert - Here's a Mindmeister Mind Map that I've been working on here and there for some time now - I don't have geolocation-centric sites listed, but otherwise, this is a handy look at the social-sphere: http://www.mindmeister.com/maps...
- Enrique Gutierrez
Mogulus in the live video section? And why not other sites, like BlipTV or others, for those who edit and upload higher quality videos that are shareable?
- Ken Kaplan
Since these are CIO's you can talk about how sometimes even "outlaw" technologies can find a place in the modern workplace. There are companies using BitTorrent to push out updates among sites, saves on bandwidth since it goes distributed. But I think the biggest focus of your talk, since its you :), should be the influence of the social and real-time web and its impact. Again, your strength and you've only got 30 mins
- William Kapes
Ken: good point. I love Blip. But again I wasn't trying to be comprehensive.
- Robert Scoble
topline think this may be too granular for most CIOs - this group is broad predictions for the path + a few examples. Functionally expand microblogging add Twitter then let niche apps flow from there.
- Carol Lynn Martens
Doesn't LinkedIn apply. There is a lot of professional interaction and the Answers section for mentoring.
- Alan Eggleston
CIOs are going to be most interested in security, and not necessarily hampering the discussion (some will), but rather how they can track what people are saying within the company, and how they can better train those that use social media in the company. At least that was my experience speaking to a similar group of CIOs in Dallas last year.
- Jesse Stay
Alan: I was on purpose leaving out older social networks like Linked In, Twitter, and Facebook. I want to focus on what's disruptive.
- Robert Scoble
not sure if this was asked above...but will there be a video of this, Robert?
- Carlos Ayala
Carlos, nope, sorry. Usually with a small intimate group (only about 20) they want to have off the record conversations.
- Robert Scoble
Unless I missed something there may be a gap in terms of viral video (YouTube, etc), shared image hosting and slideshows, and even presentation sharing (SlideShare, AuthorSTREAM)--with literacy and attention spans down these become key communication components IMHO on two levels -- ease of use (post once link anywhere) and ability to comment and rate to build communities of passion.
- Tom Bunzel
Quick question robert: which programs do you use on your mac and iphone to access friendfeed?
- Rohit
What about Evernote in the "Cloud and Collaboration" topic? It's ubiquitous... web, desktop, iPhone, Blackberry, etc.
- Kurt Rosenkranz
Roger that Robert, understood. Thanks.
- Carlos Ayala
Azure, App Engine, Rack Space Cloud, Amazon EC3, etc... Something had to run all those things in your mind map.
- Jeff Weber
Google Apps under both Office and Collaboration
- Scott McMullan
You can tell them: because of the "cloud" most of them won't have a job in 2 years, because of social-realtime web, most of their businesses won't make it through the depression
- Tweet Feeds
I know you're trying to keep the map slim, but: Google Voice, drop.io, and the mention of Evernote on iphone - the snapnote feature (mobile image capture/upload + OCR + desktop, web/feed access).
- Micah Wittman
Robert tell Joel I said hi back - you two should do lunch some time and have him show you some of the stuff they're doing.
- Jesse Stay
Hope you guys blocked out a few hours of your time. Robert kind of talks a lot.
- Jerry Schuman
Hi CIOs, the smarts are moving to the edges of the organization so dust off your resumes, your roles are obsolete
- Tweet Feeds
I think there will be more mixture between real life and online life. Sharing identities & connections will be as common as exchanging business cards right now. And, I predict, you will be tagging real-life objects with your phone (or your My name is E connector) to put them as favorites online. Or to ask for a product sample with one simple motion (thanks to nfc and rfid). So, 'sharing identities / mixing real and virtual' deserves some attention... Good luck!
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Hi from the Netherlands. Just to point out you need more focus in your MindMap on international collaboration tools :)
- Rene de Vries
Robert, perhaps touch on how they plan to serve the business / marketing side more effectively? Maximize available man hours, evolve prioritization criteria, etc.
- Jeff
Oh. And great to see Wakoopa on the list there. 'You are what you use' is a pretty powerful social indicator.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
How about adding VMware under Cloud and Communities.
- Shobhana
@Home Depot: I'm no Luddite, but I did not at all like the automated checkouts at first. Now I'm coming around - last week had the quickest turn-around shopping experience at a hardward store that I can remember. Sorry, back on topic now :)
- Micah Wittman
i would add geezeo next to mint and perhaps txtblaster next to tatango
- Allen Stern
Nice job, Robert. $1 to first CIO (other than me) from that room who responds to this message. :)
- Joel Dehlin
Joel you're one of the *only* CIOs I know that uses FriendFeed. You've been using it for over a year now I think, haven't you?
- Jesse Stay
from email
Jesse: I think there may be a few other ones onto friendfeed, but I think I might have shocked them with a look at my real time feed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Joel, nice meeting you, I'll find out the answer to your question. Can you follow me here on friendfeed so I can DM you?
- Robert Scoble
Don't forget about Dropbox under "cloud and collaboration". One of my favorite tools by far.
- Brandon Titus
Under Consumer, I would add a major value and coupon site like RedPlum.com personally as companies like Home Depot and Pepsi can relate to this.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
@scobleizer Awesome mindmap. Why does youtube not make the map under video?
- Kevin Murray
perty, good job much better than a power p prezzo
- sofarsoShawn
Kevin: now that I've given a speech I need to go through and make it much more complete. For the speech I was going for disruptive stuff that was changing right now and that would jog my memory. As it was we didn't get through the complete list. 30 minutes flies by.
- Robert Scoble
like that I could read your mindmap on my iphone - funny though when I saw web 2010 I thought - ah robert is providing a glimpse of the future to disconnected cio's - then realized that's a little over 7 months away - wow time flies :-p
- mike "glemak" dunn
mike: and keep in mind that the car industry has changed the definition of a year anyway. I'm getting my 2010 Prius in a week or two.
- Robert Scoble
Don: there is a lot of money in amusements. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
after reading this thread "better" - there have been many cto's on friendfeed for awhile now, different dna than cio's - justsayn :-p
- mike "glemak" dunn
you covered all that in 30mins? Or was this the handout.
- Ryan Stanley
Ryan: we got to one or two nodes. Heheh. I don't do handouts.
- Robert Scoble
ROI - Robert - is there a slide that tells them why? Jack Welch would tell you that if you are not measuring this you are not managing it. The only way to persuade grey beards like me is to show them why it is worthwhile otherwise in this climate more than any other time - experiments for the sake of just learning and playing will get short shrift.
- Simon Rogers
Scobes: thanks for the reply on the youtube q. your mindmap is my new "must understand" check list. thanks again for all your contribution.
- Kevin Murray
What about integrating home - all the appliance at home if we can control it from the net. .....security has too be very good.
- anamika
I'm curious as to how the CIO of Home Depot responded. Being a B&M hardware store, they aren't very big on Tech (ask me about using and deploying Office 97 in 2004 *shudder*). When I was there, there was lots of energy going in to SAP and other ERP related products/projects but not much energy going into making sure employees could use those tools. I digress...so how did it go?
- EricaJoy
EricaJoy: I don't remember a specific response from him. There was some of the usual pushback about why I would share so much of my life online. Other than that I was impressed that they were very literate on the topics and services I showed.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I don't see sync and version control products on your mind map. I think they are getting important for information management.
- Arvind
any chance you'd post final draft - maybe in original form (not pdf/jpg?) also - camtasia recording of presentation could be fun
- Courtney Engle
Don't see SlideShare it'd be handy under Collaboration and if not on this presentation perhaps on one with a focus on the next stage or under implementation strategies.
- James Stratford
open web identity: add Firefox (with 200+ downloads...); Jammer is spelled Yammer; add AWS at cloud services; I would definitely move Ning to 'community' (it is also realtime; but first of all it is the most important community building platform; very popular in the Netherlands); Google Apps for collaboration
- Jeroen De Miranda
Robert, if you have time to answer quickly, are you using the Mac or Windows version or both?
- Gregg Morris
i am late for this but, i wud also add twine and streamy..not sure where though. i thought i saw analytics up there...definitely a must. also really confused as to how evernote helps brands connect with consumers.
- Freddie Benjamin
Was this speech recorded? Would be good to see it if possible.
- Chet Thaker
No worries Robert. Will have to try and catch one of speeches live. You're coming to the UK in July I notice from your Dopplr.
- Chet Thaker
just saw you have the apps room in there, did you get a few words in about it?
- Zee.
Zee: we talked about friendfeed but I don't think we spoke specifically about that room.
- Robert Scoble
You left out Search, Commerce, Mobile - no? All of these are critical business drivers, platforms, customer channels. All are shifting, seismically under their enterprise feet.
- Thom Kennon
I thought I’d put out a post after I received my first earnings report (which I received today) from stock photography agency Getty Images. I signed up to have Getty represent 60 of my individual photographs as part of the recent deal between Getty Images and Flickr. The Flickr/Getty arrangement is by invite only and Getty initially selected about 90 of my images. I listed all of the images that they asked for that didn’t need model releases (which was 60). Most of the other images that they wanted where model releases were needed are of me or my family, so I’ll probably add those to the collection as well in the next few weeks. So in my first month of production with Getty I sold two of the 60 images. Those two images totaled $689.97 in fees to Getty and $138.00 (my 20% cut) to me. At the same time that I’d signed up with Getty I also listed 24,917 of my photos with the upstart stock photography agency Clustershot. Clustershot, started by Canadian web development company silverorange...
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- Thomas Hawk
Pretty dismal return for both sites. I wouldn't have expected much from Clustershot, but with 25K photos on their site, you would think if they had any traffic, there would have been some sales. My guess is Clustershot has little to no real traffic from people looking to buy photos.
- Jeff P. Henderson
thanks for sharing this Thomas. its seems like once again, Getty wins out. Clustershot looks interesting but unless they have some inside tracks to advertisers/buyers they will end up just like the others (ie Photoshelter and the like). I do wish them luck though. I'd like to see more companies like this spring up and be successful.
- Carlos Ayala
Personally, I think in the long run ClusterShot or a company like them will have a chance. Photrade is another one out there with high photographer payouts. If the internet is good at anything, it's good at squeezing out the middleman, which today is Getty. Then again, one could make a pretty strong case that the value provided to the photographer by Getty is worth something. Maybe not 80% of the profit, but something more than 12% for sure.
- Thomas Hawk
ClusterShot responded via email to this post and I added their email to this article as an update as well.
- Thomas Hawk
Thank you Thomas for sharing it. Very interesting read.
- Nia
Thanks for sharing Thomas! I was just looking at ClusterShot (literally a few hours before this post) and their site looks very interesting, however, I found it extremely slow to work with. For example, when I clicked on your name to load your pictures, it took roughly 1 - 2 minutes to load (maybe more). That is ridiculous. Perhaps using their service on a personal website (through an API) will be more beneficial right now. We'll see how their service builds out...
- Justin Korn
This is a common problem with the new photo selling sites. I call it the pizza delivery problem. Where I grew up there were dozens of pizza places within a few miles of my house. But, when I wanted to order a pizza, there were 1 or 2 that I would call 99% of the time. Where the others better or worse? No, I just hadn't eaten there before, and as a result, I never tried them. Same thing...
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- mike
I also received my last month earnings report from Getty today…..I have 65 images in the Flickr Getty collection and I sold 7 photos last month. 5 were to USA buyers including a couple of big ad agencies. Two were to foreign companies in Germany and Spain. Sale prices ranged from $49 to just shy of $400 per image - and my earnings (commissions) were almost $300 for the month. So, for...
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- Jeff Clow
Jeff, Congrats on that! 7 photos is great. Were they all 7 different? Were some the same? Mark, I will be in Chicago on Sat. We'll meet at the Bean at 6pm for a photowalk. Looking forward to seeing you there!
- Thomas Hawk
In the words of Flight of the Conchords, "two minutes in heaven is better than one minute in heaven".
- Matt
Yikes! While I'm happy that you have a way of selling your work, is 20% common? Why so much overhead?
- jcunwired
that's the market right now jcunwired. At least at Getty. 20% is also what they pay at iStockphoto. Right now they are the market leader. It would be interesting to see Corbis come out with a similar program to throw a little competition in there. I'm sure a lot of this will be changing in the next few years. I've always thought 20% feels low, even though Getty brings an awful lot to the table and not just in terms of their existing buyers. Their service is quite strong and professional as well.
- Thomas Hawk