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Goats in Trees
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In Southern Morocco, goats climbing the Argan trees in search of food is a common sight. - - Eivind
Nice one :) - Mary
It still looks completely wrong to me, but I have been there and seen it with my own eyes so I know it's true :) - Eivind
I wish I was there too :) and thanks for sharing it. - Mary
It's a wonderful world! - Franc, a rememberer
What balance, here we only have goats on roofs - Janice
Hehe, the goat info on that page seems _slightly_ exaggerated :D - Eivind
It's raining goats: - Eivind
I would occasionally see goats in Acacia trees in Mexico. Always a spectacle. :-) - Jenny
oh.... the tree goat - گل
*bump* I love climbing goats :) - Eivind
this is one of the most bizarre things i've ever seen - نیکی
Silly goats. - SAM
They're not silly. They just go after the food, and they don't have the patience to stand around waiting to evolve long necks :) - Eivind
*bump for SAM* I couldn't help overhearing you were getting some goats. Please get some Argan trees as well :) - Eivind
:-) - Maitani
It's my considered opinion that they're nestin. - Ken Morley
LOL - Eivind
I want a goat tree! Where do I get one? ;) - Kristin
I saw lots of them in Morocco. It's a very strange sight :) - Eivind
Have you seen lions that climb trees? - سيما كيا Sima kia
No, nay, never! They've started doing that now? - Eivind
They are called climbing tree lions; I saw them in Amboseli, Kenya. I was in Serengeti too, but never saw a lion climbing tree there, the 2nd video shows some lion cubs trying to climb a tree in Serengeti. - سيما كيا Sima kia
Thanks, Sima. Now I've seen lions climb trees :) - Eivind
Onları Essaouira, Fas yakın gördüm. - Eivind
Are there any other grazers that behave like this? Or just goats? But then again, goats are incredibly agile, since there are some that live on cliff edges, which is amazing when you think about it, so not surprising they can climb trees. - Halil
I haven't come across any. I hope so, though :) - Eivind
I wouldn't look for shade under any of them trees :)) - mina_sydney
Mina! :) - Eivind
I love that calendar, Halil. It's been around for a few years :) - Eivind
Does that mean you own a copy then? I might get next years one, as too late now as it'll be March soon! :o - Halil
Never bought it, but it was the 2010 version that inspired this post :) - Eivind
Recycled pallet vertical garden -
Recycled pallet vertical garden
Recycled pallet vertical garden
Recycled pallet vertical garden
I'd really like to make something like this. :-) - Maitani
It is best vertical garden I have seen and so easy to make. - Mahdi
Maybe next year I'll try. :-) - Maitani
I have a pallet in my farm which I will convert it to a beautiful vertical garden at this weekend :) - Mahdi
And those pallets are easy to get, even free. I bookmarked the page! - Maitani
well done Maitani :) - Mahdi
Wow. How is the weather/the temperatures where you live? :-)) - Maitani
I am living in tropical region. Here is warm in entire the year :) - Mahdi
looks so good!!great idea! - Eliza Piticari
I made one back in April ( The hot weather and my idiot dog hasn't been nice to my succulents, but they are filling in. - Anika
That's great Anika, I am going to make it soon. Just I am worried about my naughty goats :) - Mahdi
Oooohhhhh. Stuff it with moss and plant it with orchids ... *plotting* - Shannon - GlassMistress
چه خوبن. انگار از تو دیوار گل در آمده - وارَش
بسیار جالبه من می‌خوام این رو درست کنم :) - Mahdi
من هم دوست دارم. شاید درستش کردم - وارَش
Stephen Mack
The creepy but definitive list of FriendFeed employees and where they work now. UPDATE: As of October 2, 2012, *three* still work at Facebook. Still true as of November 20, 2013.
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With Paul's departure from Facebook today (November 12, 2010), I've heard several FFers talk about who's still at Facebook. I've seen various different numbers, none of which I think are accurate. This is my attempt to be more accurate. Information comes from publicly available sources where available. I drew on the list of FF employees from and - Stephen Mack
Ana Yang Chief Miscellaneous Officer at Quip, per and had left Facebook around September 2012 (see Tudor B.'s comment from 9/20/2012 below). Formerly Places Product Manager at Facebook (see - Stephen Mack
Ben Darnell DropBox (per Tudor Bosman below, updated 5/22/2012). Prior to that, AOL (Brizzly until their acquisition by AOL in September, see - Stephen Mack
Ben Golub Software Engineer at Facebook (see - Stephen Mack
Bret Taylor Co-founder and CEO of Quip, per his FF page profile. Was previously CTO of Facebook (see FF profile). On June 15, announced he was leaving FB: - Stephen Mack
Casey Muller Quip, per Per Tudor on 10/2/1012, no longer at Facebook, confirmed by Casey's FB page listing "formerly" there (see - Stephen Mack
Dan Hsiao VP of Product @ Soldsie, per his FF page profile. Per Tudor on 5/22/2012, he is no longer at Facebook (see comment below). Previously was Program Manager at Facebook (see bio of twitter feed, - Stephen Mack
Gary Burd Managing Director at BeagleDreams per his Facebook page (; it previously said he left Facebook in October of 2009. - Stephen Mack
Goutham Patnaik (private feed): Google. Summer intern, left on 9/18/2009 (see Update 5/22/2012: Per below, now at Google. I previously listed him as "unknown." - Stephen Mack
Jim Norris Entrepreneur In Residence at Funemployed per his FB page, (updated 11/20/2013). Previously AeroFS per his mom (comment below). - Stephen Mack
Kevin Fox Electric Imp (see Previously Mozilla Labs. Kevin left Facebook in May of 2010 (see below) and announced on 10/27/2010 that he joined Mozilla Labs (see - Stephen Mack
Paul Buchheit Y-Combinator as of 11/12/2010 (see - Stephen Mack
Ross Miller Taylor Engineering in Alameda per his Facebook page ( (Ross was a two-time intern at FF.) - Stephen Mack
Tudor Bosman Software Engineer at Facebook (see - Stephen Mack
Overall status as of November 2010: Of the 14 people who were ever FriendFeed employees, 8 are still at Facebook (Ana Y., Ben G., Bret T., Casey M., Dan H., Jim N., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), 5 have departed from Facebook (Ben D., Gary B., Kevin F., Paul B., Ross M.), and 1 is unknown (Goutham P.). - Stephen Mack
I will update the above if I hear news. - Stephen Mack
Technically my first day at Mozilla isn't until Monday. :-) - Kevin Fox
I will also remove this if any FF employees think it's too creepy. :) - Stephen Mack
Ross Miller's account: - Rochelle
You are both thorough and scary :) - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
KLevin, tehcnically, this is your last day here and your not part of the FF team ! - Peter Dawson
Me too, Geoff. - Kevin Fox
Thanks Rochelle, updated! Kevin F., edited now, thanks. :) - Stephen Mack
Peter, what? Today is my last day where? And I left Facebook (and the FF team) back in May. - Kevin Fox
Of those still left at FB, I only see Tudor and Ben who are still active here and have contributed to FF fixes since the buyout. - Rodfather
Kevin mea culpa .. now i remember you want on a summer sabbatical ! - Peter Dawson
No worries. :-) - Kevin Fox
Rodfather, I'm not active here? - Kevin Fox
Of those still left at FB. ;) - Rodfather
I love the iFly photo of us. We are a great big arm rainbow!! - Rachel Lea Fox
Yeah, Paul and April were missing from that picture because that was the day Thomas was born! - Kevin Fox
Rod: Oops, my bad. I saw 'left FB' and missed the 'at'. - Kevin Fox
Wild AND Crazy - Eric - Let Me Know
OK, took some editing but I think the above is accurate. If anyone knows where Ross M. or Goutham P. are now, please let me know! - Stephen Mack
Many thanks to people who provided info, especially Rochelle. - Stephen Mack
Rachel: That's definitely an awesome pic. I had a hard time choosing, you guys had a lot of great events. - Stephen Mack
Wow that is a great list I should probably try an add a few people. FriendFeed very good micro blogging, thanks. - Robert Bridge
Thanks Robert! Updated Ross's employer with information Anne B. found on his Facebook page. - Stephen Mack
He made them an offer that they could eventually refuse? - Stephen Mack
*snicker* - Big Joe Silence
Bump in honor of today's FB IPO. Time to do more creepy digging to see what's up with the FF team! - Stephen Mack
Updated Gary's entry. - Stephen Mack
Updated Jim's entry. He's apparently left Facebook. (I think I remember him confirming this when I had lunch with him last month!) - Stephen Mack
Updated Kevin's entry. - Stephen Mack
Overall status as of May 2012: Of the 14 people who were ever FriendFeed employees, 7 are still at Facebook (Ana Y., Ben G., Bret T., Casey M., Dan H., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), 6 have departed from Facebook (Ben D., Gary B., Jim N., Kevin F., Paul B., Ross M.), and 1 is unknown (Goutham P.). - Stephen Mack
Stephen, Goutham worked at RockYou for a bit in 2010 and now works for Google. Also, how have I not seen this thread before?! I remember you taking that picture at Kitchen Table - fun times :) - Ross Miller
now this is creepy.. some1 is stalking all the former employees of FF :)- - Peter Dawson
Peter, I wonder who? Ross, thanks! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Jim is now at AeroFS. - Anne Bouey
Stephen, also Goutham was a summer intern the year before the Facebook buy. He did not transfer to Facebook. Ross did you transfer to Facebook, I can't remember. - Rachel Lea Fox
oh and I think Ben D. has left AOL. But I can't confirm that, I just seem to remember something about that. *shrug* - Rachel Lea Fox
Anne, AeroFS looks cool! Congrats Jim!! - Rachel Lea Fox
Ben Darnell is at Dropbox. - Tudor Bosman
Also, Dan Hsiao is no longer at Facebook (no more details). - Tudor Bosman
Goutham Patnaik is at Google. - Tudor Bosman
And yes, both Ross and Goutham were interns and were never Facebook employees after the acquisition. - Tudor Bosman
Thanks Tudor! Updated above. - Stephen Mack
Overall status as of May 22, 2012: Of the 12 people who were ever FriendFeed employees plus 2 interns, 6 are still at Facebook (Ana Y., Ben G., Bret T., Casey M., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), 6 have departed from Facebook (Ben D., Dan H., Gary B., Jim N., Kevin F., Paul B.), and 2 were interns who never went to Facebook (Ross M., Goutham P.). - Stephen Mack
And now there are five. - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Indeed. I'll update when I get back from vacation -- by then we should know more about Bret's new venture. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Oops, I see I never updated this. Stand by. - Stephen Mack
Bret's entry updated. - Stephen Mack
Overall status, as of June 15, 2012 (updated on September 13, 2012): There are 12 people who were ever FriendFeed employees. (In addition, there were 2 interns (Ross M., Goutham P.) who never went to Facebook, per Tudor B., above.) So, of the 12 official FriendFeed employees: Currently, 5 of 12 are still at Facebook (Ana Y., Ben G., Casey M., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), and 7 of 12 have departed from Facebook (Ben D., Bret T., Dan H., Gary B., Jim N., Kevin F., Paul B.). - Stephen Mack
So basically we're gradually losing FF advocates within the mothership. :-( - DB, Lil LB's Dad
So clearly we need to either recruit current FB'ers to start using FF or get FF users employed FB, or both. - Andrew C (✔)
13 Sep 2012: what was the cause of the outage? But perhaps more importantly, *who* kindly fixed it (and from where) ? [If FB open sources FF, who would be willingly to maintain it?] - Adriano
And whoever it was, I'd happily buy them a nice dinner. - Meg VMeg
Per Tudor (in this thread it was Sanjeev who saved us. THANK YOU SANJEEV! - Stephen Mack
SANJEEV! - Josh Haley
I think Sanjeev is most eligible for a FF Rent Party of sorts. More of a FF Thank You party. - Janet
bump just to immortalise this pix and the start-up crew ! - Peter Dawson
Ana left Facebook, no more details. - Tudor Bosman
Thanks Tudor -- I updated her entry. Overall status, as of September 20, 2012): There are 12 people who were ever FriendFeed employees. (In addition, there were 2 interns (Ross M., Goutham P.) who never went to Facebook, per Tudor B., above.) So, of the 12 official FriendFeed employees: Currently, 4 of 12 are still at Facebook (Ben G., Casey M., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), and 8 of 12 have departed from Facebook (Ana Y., Ben D., Bret T., Dan H., Gary B., Jim N., Kevin F., Paul B.). - Stephen Mack
Thanks Tudor and Stephen for the update. - Meg VMeg
Casey left Facebook as well (which, as he's Ana's husband, is no big surprise :) ). No more details. - Tudor Bosman
Ah, so three now. Thanks Tudor. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Not sure how I missed Tudor's update back on October 2, but I have now updated Casey's entry. - Stephen Mack
Overall status, as of October 2, 2012: There are 12 people who were ever FriendFeed employees. In addition, there were 2 interns (Ross M. and Goutham P.) who never went to Facebook, per Tudor B., above. So, of the 12 official FriendFeed employees: Currently, 3 of 12 are still at Facebook (Ben G., Sanjeev S., and Tudor B), and 9 of 12 have departed from Facebook (Ana Y., Ben D., Casey M., Bret T., Dan H., Gary B., Jim N., Kevin F., and Paul B.). - Stephen Mack
An update of sorts, which I guess is in and of itself creepy. I was reading a recent piece on Google Reader, and I was struck by the fact that Darnell jumped from Google Reader to FriendFeed (there are similarities between the two orphaned applications, when you think about it). Then I saw that Darnell made his move right before the Facebook acquisition. After reading subsequent... more... - John E. Bredehoft
Bump. Updated a few folks above to show they're at Quip. I think it's still the case that 3 of the 12 are at Facebook (Ben, Sanjeev, Tudor). - Stephen Mack
Thanks for the update Stephen! - Zu from AOD
Bump! I think the count is still three. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Strawberry Watermelon Cooler -
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Strawberry Watermelon Cooler
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میخوایید زجر بدید ؟ - سیده حسنا
زجر چرا؟ داریم یاد میگیریم که چه جوری اینا رو درست کنیم :) - Mahdi
من شبیه این رو چند وقت پیش درست کردم. خیلی‌ خوب میشه مزه متفاوت و عالی داره. در ضمن اینجایی‌ که من زندگی‌ می‌کنم آب هندوانه خیلی‌ مرسومه و تو همه رستوران‌ها سرو میشه :) - Mahdi
اینجایی که زندگی میکنی مگه کجاست؟ :دی - فائزه
فائزه خیلی‌ دور نیست. همین نزدیکیها است. فقطا یک پرواز هفت ساعته نیاز داره :)) - Mahdi
نظری ندارم چون تاحالا پام را از گربه بیرون نذاشتم :)) - فائزه
بله بله خیلی‌ خوبه :) - Mahdi
الآن تو این هوا آی میچسبه - *فـــــــرشته*صداقـــــت*
نوش جان :) - Mahdi
who would have imagined dita von teese baking cookies? but here she is with her "spiced mice butter cookies" recipe:
dita cookie.jpg
yok, halis muhlis ditacığım fırının önündeki :) şu linki de verelim hatta, hatırı kalmasın: - grizabella
kardes feed olarak, marilyn'den stuffing recipe: - grizabella
cok guzeller yemege kiyamam be..buttercookies rocks - elixir
@elixir facebook'ta bir arkadasimin kucuk kiziyla birliikte yaptigi kurabiyelerin resmini gorup, "kuyrugunu neden yaptinız, noodle mi?" diye sorunca ogrendim ben de tarifin dita'nin oldugunu :) onlarinki biraz daha az cici duruyordu gerci, kiyip yemesi daha kolay gibiydi. - grizabella
gündüz dita von teyze, gece dita von teese. (ahhh vurmayın! birileri yazacaktı nasılsa :P) - grizabella
niye, fare diye mi? - grizabella
ben de benzer hisler icindeyim. belki cok cok sevimli olusa. resimdekiler ciciş mesela. ama kuyrugunu her halukarda yemem. - grizabella
oyy yazik ona be! :) - grizabella
Ah, this is easier to get when compared to cazzocuore ;) (though now I know what that one meant as well) - grizabella
we have a somewhat similar one among turkish friendfeeders, so when mario explained the word, it felt quite familiar :) - grizabella
up! - grizabella
oh hi there. want a mouse cookie? :) - grizabella
:) - Derrick
eskiden resimlere tıklıyınca açılıyormuş. - hia
acilmiyor mu simdi? - grizabella
açılıyor, yeni yüklenen resimler iniyor ya direkt. - hia
ondan kurtulmak icin hokus pokus yapan bi link olacak, bulup atayim sana :) - grizabella
hop hop! - grizabella
aaa hakkaten! fark etmemistim daha once. - grizabella
hop! - grizabella
bunu alanlar sunu da alti kontenjanindan: - grizabella
Louis Gray
Hi Ladies! Braden says good afternoon.
Hiya handsome :D - Shannon - GlassMistress
Forget the cute babby. What's up with the tub of red vines on top of the desk hutch? And why aren't you sharing? :D - Hookuh Tinypants
4 pounds. Oof. Whomever said I love Red licorice is in for it. Black is favored. :) - Louis Gray
*fistbump* Louis. Black all the way, baby (but if I can't get black, I'd take red for the sugar high) - Hookuh Tinypants
Gosh, they grow up fast. Little dude is the spitting image of his big brother and pops. - Mike Nayyar
I am now kicking myself that I didn't think to get Louis to bring Braden with him. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Braden is way fun in person. He's ALL MINE too. - Louis Gray
Now I want to see that pic of me and Braden again. HE LOVES ME. - Monique the crochet freak
Wow, he's grown so much! Way too cute :oD - Melly
I showed Emily - she did a massive burp. - Melly
Audrey says, "Baby! Crawling. Laughing. Couch." - Rochelle
Josiah says, "That's cool." - Melly
Babies have such beautiful and innocent smiles. Pure joy. <3 - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
<3 :) - Stiletto
the blue strechie brings out the blue in those beautiful eyes - VALZONE#NEWHIP
hi braden:)) - Sima
Bump for 3 year anniversary of this post. :) - Louis Gray
The FriendFeed Swaps box has arrived! To be opened sooooooooon
Yay! Nice to see it moving! - Anne Bouey
:o it still exists, :O - chaz2b
PICS! - AJ Batac
It's amazing how much stuff is in here. - mjc from FFHound!
I've never seen it, in person. - Eric - Let Me Know
FYI (as of 12/30/11), I've got it packed up again and will be getting it on its way soon, coordinating a physical handoff rather than mailing for the next hop :) - mjc
:) - Anne Bouey
That's so cool. Perhaps I will see it someday IRL. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
DB, is it with you now? :) - AJ Batac
Yo yo yo bumpity bump! - AJ Batac
Where is the box? - Janet from FFHound!
mjc, is the box still with you man? - AJ Batac
:o the box :o - chaz2b
Holy crap, food in that thing is nearing three years old. Who is hoarding it? - Janet from FFHound!
I still have it, heh. I had a lot of craziness going on in my life - I guess I should throw out some of the old food and try and move it on its way.... - mjc
That would be wonderful, mjc! - Anne Bouey
Is it Joel+Michelle next? we never quite organized when to pass the box off even though I live(d) near them. do they still even live in florida? lol I don't know anymore :P - mjc
Here's the original set-up: I think it changed a bit when Michelle and Joel moved. You can DM them to get their address; I believe they're in Florida. - Anne Bouey
thanks mjc, please do continue and let us know the progress. - AJ Batac
Bumping so this doesn't reach a whole year in limbo. I saw the date of the original post. - Janet this still lost in florida?... - Colette
Yep. :( - Anne Bouey
Welp. :| - Colette
Wow, we're still beating this dead horse? Let it go, y'all. It's been far too long for it to be relevant anymore. - Hookuh Tinypants
Bret Taylor
Right now FriendFeed supports multiple photo upload using Flash. I want to convert it to use HTML 5 multi-file upload if it is available, then Flash if it is available, and then fall back on standard HTML otherwise. Is there a good article demonstrating this approach?
Specifically, is there a way to have a link trigger an HTML 5 file upload? shows a standard INPUT element, but we want to make it trigger from our "Add: Photos" link. - Bret Taylor
Your best bet will probably be to set the alternate content for the upload swf to be a proper HTML upload form. If you're using SWFObject to place the swf, this is fairly easy to do. Not sure about HTML 5 since it's penetration is probably pretty small (sadly) - Brett Kelly
Brett: We already have the Flash working, and it gracefully degrades. I am interested in supporting HTML 5 in addition to that. (You can try it with the Photos link above) - Bret Taylor
btw, I hope Adobe will correct the problem that makes Firefox on Linux hang horribly when trying to get the upload progress via swf upload (and you will not get the progress at all!) - Claudio Cicali
Claudio: yep, it is so bad we don't load the Flash uploader for Linux (it just uses standard HTML file upload). I use Linux all day, so it is a big pain. When the next Firefox release comes out with HTML 5 support, hopefully it won't matter. - Bret Taylor
What if you did something like this: Render out the HTML 5 form and the SWF for photo uploads and adjust the event handler for 'click' on the 'Photos' link depending on what the browser is capable of - in other words, if the browser can do HTML 5, click would reveal the related form; if not, click would launch the flash-based upload stuff. Obviously, you'd have to use javascript to... more... - Brett Kelly
Do you use a javascript check for Flash and then javascript write to add the Flash upload embed? - Chip Ramsey
Chip: not really, but sort of. We load the flash, which then calls back to our JS when it successfully loads, which then changes the DOM to replace the link with the Flash control. That solution is a bit more robust in case the Flash control fails to load for some reason (even if they have Flash installed). - Bret Taylor
If on php+apache, I would rather use the upload progress meter. No need for flash. But you do need js. - Vivek Puri
That makes sense. I'm sure this isn't what you're looking for, but I think you have to use user agent detection. You could start off with your basic HTML form with the input field with multiple attribute (which should degrade gracefully right?) and then detect the user agent. If it is a user agent that doesn't support multiple and isn't Linux, then you could add the Flash control to the... more... - Chip Ramsey
BTW, initially thought you could use JS to read the attributes of the input field and the multiple attribute would be missing for browsers that don't support it yet, but that doesn't seem to be the case in FireFox. - Chip Ramsey
Had a little more time to play with this tonight. Because you guys use jQuery, it looks like you may be able to use $("#test").attr("multiple") on <input type="file" id="test" multiple> and it will return the true boolean on browsers that support the attribute. On browsers that don't support it, either an empty string or "multiple" is returned. Didn't test thoroughly, but maybe somewhere to start. - Chip Ramsey
Thanks, Chip! Really helpful - Bret Taylor from email
hey bret -- in Firefox now we do support file upload without page reload and without user interaction, and you can do one file upload while picking another one -- probably not totally what you want, but maybe helpful. here's the writeup: - John Lilly
Thanks, John, that's helpful - Bret Taylor
Louis Gray
Happy Birthday to both Stephen Mack and Tudor Bosman today! Both great guys and good dads too!
I'll let you guess who is who. Photo 1 I took and Photo 2 is courtesy Thomas Hawk. - Louis Gray
Happy Bday Dudes. - VALZONE#NEWHIP
Happy birthday Stephen and Tudor! - Georgia
Happy birthday Stephen and Tudor. - Jim #teamFFrank
Happy Birthday! - Kevin Johnson
Happy B-days! - Ken Gidley
Happy Happy - Rodfather
Happy Birthday, gentlemen. - Monique the crochet freak
Happy Birthday! - NOT THE CRICKET
I know who is who but I'm not gonna' tell... HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOYS!!! - Lisa L. Seifert
Thanks Louis and all! But don't forget it's also Kelly's ( birthday today too! - Stephen Mack
Happy birthdays! - Prairie & I Know It
Happy Birthday, Tudor and Stephen! It's a great day for birthdays! - Anne Bouey from iPhone
Happy Bday! - Heather
Happy Bday guys! - Steve C, Team Marina
Happy birthday great guys and dads! :) - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Happy birthday to you both! - Jenny
Thank you! - Tudor Bosman
Whose code are you looking at in that picture? :-) - Bruce Lewis
Happy Birthday Stephen! - AJ Batac
Happy Birthday Tudor! - AJ Batac
Thank you! - Tudor Bosman
Happy Birthday, Stephen and Tudor! :-) - Half Pint
I will reshare this every year. - Louis Gray
I will comment on this every year, provided Louis finds it and bumps it first, of course. - Lisa L. Seifert from iPhone
AJ Batac
This. - Mike Nayyar
Please can anyone tell me what 'Team Frank' is all about? intrigued..cheers - Jason
Thanks, Bruce. I was having trouble with FF search in trying to find the thread! - Prairie & I Know It
Thank you, Bruce - Jason
Happy to help. - Bruce Lewis
This was the first thing I saw when I logged in :) - Ashish
This is gorgeous. The result of a tatted up cow:) - Liza + = ?
Mee toooooo! - Mary B: #TeamMonique
me Three, - Roberto Bonini
Me too! - Halil
FriendFeed forever! - Barbara R. S.
Yup. - Steven Perez
AFFirmative. - Kevin Johnson
Hooray! - Fleagle
Hear hear! - Franc, a rememberer
Oh. - sofarsoShawn
Right now, Mark Zuckerberg is sitting in a dark room, looking at monitors on the screen. A big red button marked "Kill Friendfeed" sits on the armchair to his right. As he giggles menacingly under his breath, his finger hovers ever-so-gently over the button... - Fleagle
pleather <3 - CarlC
yep! - Kamil
++ Fleagle. "And suddenly, a question pops his head. How come, why not here on my own developed turf? He sips the last of his milk glass, raising the finger off the button, and decided to give them another day." -The book of SocNet, 12:10 - Zu from AOD
♥ ♥ ♥ - Ali Yolcu
Bu yazı fontu kim de var acaba. - Tesbih "KOD 111"
Haha, always fun to stumble on an old post and see how you reacted at the time. #SomeFFLove - Zu from AOD
AJ BATAC Git burdan. O.O - Tarık
Stephen Mack
Project management illustrated via a swing
Time for this old thing again! (Anyone know the original source so I can credit them? I found it here -- - Stephen Mack
Absolutely ! - Mo Kargas
I think for many projects, the customer should be given a tire swing. - Seth
There's a different adage about what happens when you give the customer enough rope. - Stephen Mack
Bump for Tam. - Stephen Mack
Hahaha - Tamara J. B.
AJ Batac
i love friendfeed
Friendfeed loves you. - Kevin Fox
Thanks Mr. Fox. ;) - AJ Batac
I like the font. - Outsanity from Android
<3 Very nice. - Jenny H.
I still do... - AJ Batac
Aww. :) - Micah
Bret Taylor
Happy Holidays!
Dead programs don't let you make comments - Ozgur Demir
dead programs don't let you like things - Roberto Bonini
Dead programs don't..... work. - tehKenny
Yay! The graphic has officially been flipped! No need for nostalgia. - Louis Gray
Kenndy actually makes a good point here... :) - Roberto Bonini
Merry Eggnog! ... and jeez, what's with the rude comments? It's the holidays. #relax - Mona Nomura
I think everyone knew exactly what you meant jeremy :) - Roberto Bonini
Jeremy, perhaps there's a misunderstanding. As a rule, FriendFeeders celebrate Festivus - maybe someone mistook this thread for the Airing of the Grievences ceremony. In any event, I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you're gonna hear about it! - John Craft
*gets popcorn* - Roberto Bonini
A little goes a long way around these here parts. *picks teeth with straw* - Josh Haley
^^^ :) - Micah
:) - Shandiz
Happy :)))))))))))))))))))) - ★ Soner Gönül
Happy Holidays everyone! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Merry Christmas - Xitong Liu
Merry Christmas - Vic Ted from iPhone
Bump. - Kol Tregaskes
like for the bump, ;) - chaz2b
ta... - --ef--
Thanks much Bret. Happy Holidays to you too! - RON08 owned by jd again
Feliz Navidad - Harlem Garciia
I liked it - abdul amid
hey :) - amal
holaa - Sercan
bretçim sana dm atamıyorum abone olur musun:) - Aynebilim Aşevi
I do love this logo!!! - Rachel Lea Fox
I wonder how the holiday logo for FF will look this year? - Eivind
breeeettt evine dön..evde çoluk çocuk perişannnn..söz veriyorum kirli çoraplarını kanepeye bıraktın diye bi daha kızmayacam!! - Aynebilim Aşevi
UYUMA BRET - feraye
. - AJ Batac
Just had our first snow 45°30′N 73°34′W, Happy upcoming Holidays '13. - Zu from AOD
این بابا هم اواتارش با عکس زنش انداخته - alireza6211
UYUMA BRET - feraye - Koray AI
hoppalaaa... - abdul gelada
daje - yespa - продажа и монтаж кондиционеров в Санкт-Петербурге - Ivan Denisov
program and training with #Dwayne_Johnson in six pays per week http://dwaynejohnson-therock.b... - AHMED2020
Bret Taylor
You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
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You can see all of your email settings at - Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret! :) - Matt Ruiz
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend. - Bret Taylor
Great! Thanks! Love FF! - Scott Monaco
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email. - Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Lovely. Thanks guys. - Mitchell Tsai
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included? - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest. - Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...) - Mitchell Tsai
WOW. that's really helpful! - K.D.
Looks like a great addition for those who are not embedded on the site. Nice intro. - Louis Gray
Cool! - Josh Haley
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry! - Bret Taylor
Cool! can i get a daily or weekly email digest for the "Saved searches"? - 0M0M from email
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution. - Kathy Fitch
Nice addition! - Michael Fidler
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments? - Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count! - Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-) - Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists) - Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :) - Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks! - Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :) - Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too. - Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier. - Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys - (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys! - Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there). - Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed .. - Franc, a rememberer
That's a cool feature - Xitong Liu
Emails no longer get sent except for Subscriptions. The last non-sub email I recieved was July 15th, 2011. - NOT THE CRICKET
I still get them. - AJ Batac
I get these every day. - Me
I still get it - AJ Batac
*jealous* I no longer get anything but subscription emails. - Bruce Lewis
Following US Politics that way ever since and the emails always went through: so happy this never went off course and kept a valuable record of these threads. - Zu from AOD
unutmadık :) - alperyz
Thanks for sharing!! - Keith Kesier
Stephen Mack
Kevin and Rachel did a great job with Haunted Fox Hollow this year.
(Please forgive the poor quality of the photos.) - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Every year I forget to go and every year I wish I went. :( - Louis Gray
I am making it my goal to go next year. By then I'll be out of school again and in between training seasons. I'm adding it to my calendar right now, dammit. - Hookuh Tinypants
Yay! Thanks for coming! - Kevin Fox
Awesome!! I'm so glad you came Stephen. I'm sorry I didn't make it back out to talk to you at the end of the line when they cut us off at the beginning. You know how it is, the Spider Queen has needs, the werewolf needed a new bone and the swamp hand stolen someones candy again. You can't disappoint the Spider Queen if you want to stay free of her web! ;) I have photos and video going up over on the Facebook page: I'll post at least the video here too! :) - Rachel Lea Fox
It was really great -- sorry I didn't get to talk longer with you Rachel (or even see Kevin at all), but I quite understand how busy you were! Next year, I gotta organize a FFmeetup there with Hookuh and anyone else who can go. - Stephen Mack
Indeed! I really wanted to go but between Nike and school, it just was not happening. 2014 will be my magical year of Finally Having A Life Again. :D - Hookuh Tinypants
If I'm welcome, I'll totally go next year! I want to meet the Foxes! - Akiva
Here is video from one section: And next year, we will still be here! Meeting us on haunt nights tends to be a drive-by like Stephen said, but we love everyone to come and love to meet everyone for whatever time period we can. Coming on a night we are open that is not Halloween is usually the best night to come. It is slightly less busy, shorter... more... - Rachel Lea Fox
Sounds good! - Akiva
It looks as great as ever! - Anne Bouey
Kevin or Rachel, do you still have the singing pumpkins installed? - Stephen Mack
Stephen, yes they are still up. They are not doing nightly shows right now, but if you let me know you are coming, I'm happy to start them for you. :) - Rachel Lea Fox
Rachel, the kids and I would love to come by and see! Would tonight work? - Stephen Mack
I'll message you to see when is good. :) - Rachel Lea Fox
"Hey we're taking a photo here.." (in NY accent)
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Isn't that just typical!!!! - Kevin J Hatton
One in a million. I love it. - Adam Reyher from Alert Thingy
That's insanely lucky. - James Rishabh Mishra
seriously this is not photoshopped? oh this is too funny, it's like that annoying kid that always jumps in front of the camera. - R. Ferguson
LoL. This is a true once in a life time shot. - Bluesun 2600
precious! - Tammy Hoeck
LOL! Adorable! - Kevin Winn
Quelle jolie photo!! Très originale, j'adore;-) - Orangeade
Cool - Bob Lyr
uhuh, just excellent - TiTi
I think that must be the 'mini-wanker' the lake is named after. - Ken Morley
I love how the camera focuses on the squirrel rather than the people - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
This shot is hilarious!! This is a totally gorgeous spot. been there once. - Nathalie
Begging to be captioned ~ :3 - CannonGod
That's one photogenic little critter. <3 - Sung W. Lim
haha @ Jake Fudge. spot on! - stefan
It's so cute! It almost doesn't look real. Loving it!!! - Jennifer Medlin
So awesome - Mitch
love how its head lines up exactly with the horizon line. *So* much better than it would have been. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Unbelievable. - Ramene Anthony
See more about this story in CBC news - Carloe Stamp
I laugh ever time I see this. It is so great. - Jim Williams
^^)b - YungSang from FriendFooV2
lol ( in NY accent :) ) - Pinkpackrat
Isn't there a website where you can submit pictures of photo-stealers? This should totally be submitted. || Edit: Found it. - Miss Elle
excelent - Rui was only after Chipper received his prints from the local PhotoMat that he realized two humans had snuck into the background of his lakeview self-portrait. - .LAG liked that
haha picture? lol just kidding =] - Marissa
Bump. - Kol Tregaskes
Still funny! :) - Ken Morley
Nice Photo really ! - Michael Stuart
GOOD - hongyanself
Ross Miller
Great memories! Dan working on scene two. (Re:
Great memories! Dan working on scene two. (Re:
Cool. - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
So it's all done with Legos. Brilliant! - Jack&Cleo
That is such a great video! - Anne Bouey
Cool, I loved the first one!! woo hoo!! :D - Susan Beebe
Wow! - Brian Johns
Great memories, indeed! - April Buchheit from iPhone
Stupid Question: Can't y'all just raise the debt ceiling without having cuts or savings measures? I mean, just raise the limit and be done with it? Seems like it's getting over implicated cause some dudes need a political reach around.
I heard something on the radio today that Reagan raised the debt ceiling like eighteen times. - Derrick
Yes. That option has been available from the beginning, and it's still available now. - John (bird whisperer)
Yes, they could. They don't want to. I can't think of a single thing Congress ever passes that is simple and sticks to one issue only. Someone is always trying to attach riders and pork, etc. - Spidra Webster
Yep. Bush Snr about 8 I think. Clinton 4, Bush Jnr 7... - Johnny from iPhone
AIUI raising the debt ceiling is always used by the minority party to score cheap political points, but this is the first time everyone's pretending it can't simply be raised without a complicated deal about everything else. - Andrew C (✔)
Not for nothing... but if my interest rates and cost of living rises cause some dudes in another country can't get over their dance battle style wank session, excuse me if I get a little frustrated - Johnny from iPhone
What pisses me off is the fact that they are just refusing to pay the bills they incurred over the past year. I read an analogy earlier this week about it being like going to Best Buy, paying for a 50 inch plasma TV with a credit card and then deciding not to pay the credit card bill. I make purchases on my card that I have regretted, but I don't have the option of just deciding not to pay the bill - Congress seems to think it does... - WebGoddess
I'd like to see the Senate pass a bill to simply raise the debt ceiling as per usual, because just maybe they could get enough votes in the House from Republicans pissed off at the Tea Party trying to subvert their party. - Kevin Fox
I think they're still mad about the budget. - Heather
What's really whack is that credit agencies are threatening a downgrade of our credit if we don't address the deficit. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
if you were being held hostage in your own home with a time bomb about to go off, you could easily go to the door and walk out IF the hostage takers simply stepped aside. But they won't, so the simple exit doesn't happen. The U.S. as a whole is currently being held hostage by the tea partiers of the Republican party. - Frank Jernigan
It's not a stupid question! Just stupid power hungry people making the problem even stupider! Like Frank said, but I like to use the word stupid to describe this stupid situation! - Rachel Lea Fox
Maybe I don't pay attention enough to the gov. Has anyone on either side offered to reduce these benefits, funded by the tax paying public? - Janet
Johnny posted this two years ago. Hm. - Amit Patel
Stephen Mack
Only you can help spread the word and stop the madness.
octothorpe! - Brian Johns
#!/bin/sh - Tudor Bosman
Nice hash bang, Kevin. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Sparky, I know of that term only from the jargon file. I never actually heard someone call it that in seriousness. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Inspired by Derrick's post: - Stephen Mack from iPhone
From wikipedia: "Beginning in the 1960s, telephone engineers have attempted to coin a special name for this symbol, with variant spellings including octothorp, octothorpe, octathorp, octotherp, octathorpe, and octatherp,[2] none of which has become widely accepted." - Brian Johns
What's the null and identity hash tag then? - Todd Hoff
# = le dièse - Adriano
Pound! - AJ Batac
Strangely, Mo, only you have ever used that tag. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I fear the battle is lost. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
tag# - Johnny from iPhone
I'd call it a pound sign, outside of computer stuff. (Although, reading the Wikipedia essay, "number sign" is also reasonable. Or just Shift-3.) - Walt Crawford
This is not a #pipe - Victor Ganata from iPhone
#poundtag# - Joe from iPod
Stephen Mack
Album review: “Songs The Brothers Warner Taught Me” by Megan Lynch ( -
Album review: “Songs The Brothers Warner Taught Me” by Megan Lynch (
From the blog post: "[...] Lynch doesn’t try to imitate the cartoon characters (it’s not Michigan J. Frog’s version of “Hello Ma Baby” — it’s all Lynch), nor does she play any tricks. Backed by a studio of pros, she just lets her powerful voice carry the day. My kids have really enjoyed a lot of these as well. Five of five stars, highly recommended. [...]" - Stephen Mack from Bookmarklet
Also includes an interview with Megan Lynch: "I didn’t want to be “just another chick singer doing jazz standards” to people. I also wanted a strong theme to the album, some reason why these songs were being presented together. I’ve always had songs in my repertoire that are obscure or have a bit of humor or both. My first exposure to jazz standards was via Warner Brothers cartoons. It... more... - Stephen Mack
Thanks, Stephen! - Spidra Webster
Spidra, you're very welcome, and thank you very much for taking the time to answer my questions. :) - Stephen Mack
Bump! If you were ever considering buying this wonderful album, today's a good day to do it -- if you buy it from CD Baby today or tomorrow, 100% of the proceeds go to Spidra. - Stephen Mack
If you buy the download, that's the case. Not the case if you buy the CD. But either way is fine with me. :) - Spidra Webster
Gotcha, Spidra. And presumably buying it off Bandcamp isn't quite as good (since it's only $8 for the download there), but you'd still be fine with it? - Stephen Mack
Normally I direct as much traffic to Bandcamp as I can because the percentage of the sale is greater there than at iTunes or Amazon. But I'm plugging CDBaby through tomorrow because of this deal. - Spidra Webster
Last day of CD Baby deal! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
It's a great interview :)) - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Bump for Spidra's birthday! Give yourself a present today on her birthday by buying her album? - Stephen Mack
Bump. - Stephan
Managing the big cats | Methow Valley News -
Managing the big cats | Methow Valley News
"The basic idea of the state’s new management approach, Beausoleil said, is based on cougars’ social system and territorial nature. Adult cougars, especially males, have a natural drive to establish, patrol and defend a territory. If another cougar enters that territory, the cougar will fight to the death to defend it. “The No. 1 cause of death in the wild is cougars killing cougars,” Beausoleil said. “The strongest ones and the ones with the best genes survive.” If an adult male cougar dies or is killed – by a hunter, for instance – the territory is left undefended and younger male cougars will move in. Often two or more younger cats enter the territory formerly occupied by a single adult male. Because cougars don’t develop their territorial instincts until they are about 4 years old, the younger cougars may occupy overlapping ranges for a few years, resulting in a higher local cougar population, and increasing the potential for interactions with livestock and humans." - Jessie from Bookmarklet
"“One of the reasons cougars may come into conflict with humans is if you take out a territorial male, you have just increased the odds [of cougar encounters]. Instead of one you now have three cougars,” Beausoleil explained. “If you live in one of those areas where a male was removed, instead of seeing one, now your potential is to see three or four because those animals are too young... more... - Jessie
"Using the habitat information, state wildlife officials last January established smaller “cougar management zones” created to “distribute the harvest more equitably across the landscape … [while] preserving the social stability across the whole state.” Rather than 13 large game management units, the state designated 49 smaller cougar management zones. The state also established a... more... - Jessie
"Beausoleil said the cougar studies may also be relevant to another controversial carnivore in Washington. “These research findings may also be applicable for wolf management in the future, because they’re highly territorial as well,” he said." - Jessie
Michael W. May
Linda's Chapel: locked. On way to chiro @ Downtown Newaygo
Linda's Chapel: locked. On way to chiro @ Downtown Newaygo
Stephen Mack
Another long day, at SeaWorld, where the sun didn't come out until 5, which made the water rides a bit less fun. But they both said they liked it even more than the zoo. (Unpossible.)
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Awesome! I love Sea World! - Mary Carmen
The adorableness! - Eivind
Worn out and tired? - Anne Bouey
Anne: I let them stay up late for the evening Shamu show and closing fireworks. They fell asleep seconds after their heads hit the pillow. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
New philosophy: Life should be lived in the soak zone. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
:) - Anne Bouey
:) - Jenny H. from Android
On the plus side it can be pretty miserable when it's a really hot day there so I think you did well. Sorry we have turned off the sun of late June gloom has lasted to August and my AC bills are eternally grateful. - Steve C, Team Marina
Great photos, Stephen. You can tell they had a great time! - Stephan from iPhone
Thanks, Stephan! SteVe, yeah, good point. Lot warmer today at Legoland. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
holly #ravingfangirl
Yum! - Katy S
It's a good thing you live all the way on the other side of the country. Otherwise, I would be at your doorstep several times a week seeking food and drink. - Friar Will
the only downside is that because the growing seasons are just off here, there were zero local raspberries available anywhere. I had to use ones from CA. :((( - holly #ravingfangirl
tempted to rat you out to your fellow Oregonians... - Kevin Johnson
right? i felt dirty doing it. - holly #ravingfangirl
As a native Northern Californian at least in the Bay Area, I have to ask: What is this "Styrofoam" of which you speak? - Walt Crawford
gah - hair trigger deleted my original comment on styrofoam... caused a scandal at a neighborhood get-together bringing styrofoam cups. caused serious glares. kinda scared me - Kevin Johnson
hahahaha! - holly #ravingfangirl
It's a bird! It's a plane! It's...a giant rubber ducky? | Taipei 543 -
It's a bird! It's a plane! It's...a giant rubber ducky? | Taipei 543
"Inspired by the popular bathtime toy, Dutch artist Florentijn Hofman originally created a 16.5 meter version of the duck in 2007, to help “spread joy around the world”. Since then, the duck has visited cities such as Hong Kong, Osaka, and even Amsterdam. Keelung city council member Huang Jing-tai recently announced that Hofman would be creating another duck, this one 18 meters tall, that will remain permanently in Taiwan." - Jessie from Bookmarklet
"The duck is expected to arrive in Keelung’s port in mid-December. When asked what comes to mind when you think of the city Keelung, a few things might be never ending rain, a port city, maybe some local specialty dishes. A giant rubber ducky probably didn’t make the list. Don’t worry though, it will soon ." - Jessie
Jessie, aren't you sad you won't be there then? :( - Anne Bouey
:-( At least it's permanent so I can see it the next time I come back. - Jessie
holly #ravingfangirl
Steven Perez
Feels like a visit from the Nap Bus is imminent. -
Feels like a visit from the Nap Bus is imminent.
Enjoy! - Anne Bouey
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz - VALZONE#NEWHIP
"Man acquitted in romantic bear-spray squabble"
"The two had met in a hacky-sack circle in early February and announced plans to marry just two weeks later" - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
"Hall took his few possessions and moved out of his fiancée’s home and into a tree at Mclaren Park. But as Hall climbed the tree and attempted to sleep that first night, he became cold and returned home, Streets said." - NOT THE CRICKET
If it wasn't true, would be the most hackneyed fiction so far this year. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
LOL - lris
This is why. - Akiva
You don't want to know what it is like to be sprayed with bear spray in the face. - Joe
Tudor Bosman
Bret: "it turns out that sending packets over the network is an integral part of a website"
That's just crazy talk! - FFing Enigma
Bull pucky - I don't buy it for a second. - Brett Kelly
hi - kadir
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