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We have received numerous reports of excessive FriendFeed posts showing up in Facebook this evening. While we are not 100% sure, it appears to be an issue on Facebook's end due to ignoring application settings. We have disabled all FriendFeed updates to Facebook until we are sure the problem is resolved.
sohbetchat, Chatsohbet, "Serhat Ozan" and 61 other people liked this
See http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... for more information - it seems to also have impacted Twitter's Facebook app. Again, we are not sure if it is a problem on our end or not, but we are investigating now.
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret! FWIW when I checked the FF app settings in FB they were not the same options as I saw when I first set the app up.
- FFing Enigma
my freindfeed application is not working on facebook, and fr rest of..
- Madhav Tripathi
Click. Flip a switch and that's it. You guys rule.
- Pete D
Thanks, Bret. I've disabled it on my FB page and hope that cures what ails me. Appreciate the FF peeps being on top of it.
- Derrick
Yet another reason I'm happy I don't have a FaceBook. :P
- Trey Crossan
Good thing I only posted once to Twitter tonight. The duplication only happened once. Thanks for letting me know.
- Louis Gray
Yay for communicative admins!
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
*looks at own FB account* HOLY SHIT, WTF?!?
- The Silence
Yep, I have drug references now due to not having context. Thanks alot FB. Thanks alot.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I had the same with Twitter
- Mo Kargas
Thanks Bret!
- Andrew C (✓)
No problem, if I knew it was on your end, I wouldn't have cared, but thanks for letting me know about the situation. I was confused because it happened right as I was trying out a new twitter game. This was compounded by the fact that the game has no controls for turning off public messages. I'll bet they plan to add them later, but right now they want everyone to hear about it. It’s a...
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- Michael Fidler
Is it fixed? I'm afraid to go look:)
- Michael Fidler
So, is it fixed?Every tweet, every everything is showing up as individual news feed posts for all my friends, this is too much and I'm likely to piss them all off. Options ... 1.Stop tweeting etc. 2.Ditch the FF Facebook application. Hmmm, it's a no brainer. Anyone got any updates on this?
- Michael M Bailey
Google Points At WebFinger. Your Gmail Address Could Soon Be Your ID. - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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"It’s taking something everyone knows on the web (your email address) and making it immensely more valuable as a way to identify yourself and information about you. Exactly what kind of information? Here are some of the ideas from the WebFinger Google Code page: * public profile data * pointer to identity provider (e.g. OpenID server) * a public key * other services used by that email address (e.g. Flickr, Picasa, Smugmug, Twitter, Facebook, and usernames for each) * a URL to an avatar * profile data (nickname, full name, etc) * whether the email address is also a JID, or explicitly declare that it’s NOT an email, and ONLY a JID, or any combination to disambiguate all the addresses that look like something@somewhere.com * or even a public declaration that the email address doesn’t have public metadata, but has a pointer to an endpoint that, provided authentication, will tell you some protected metadata, depending on who you authenticate as."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I don't want my contact information to be my identifier. I shouldn't have to give a website my email address, just like I shouldn't have to give a store my phone number.
- Daniel Sims
Daniel, I think it just takes the form of an email address, but does not in fact have to be one (or could be a "throw away" account).
- Paul Buchheit
It would be cool if we could get our act together (as an industry) and make this stuff happen. I'd also like to see ENUM deployed to the point that my phone number can be linked to my identity. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...)
- Joe Beda
This is a bad idea in so many ways I can't even begin to list them.
- April
If a site wants my email address, it's probably in order to spam me. It's usually a bad sign. If legit sites ask for my email more, it will make it harder to identify the spammers.
- Tim Tyler
Do gmail users seriously still have problems with spam? I don't.
- Robin Barooah
Personally this sounds great - as long as it really doesn't force you to use your actual gmail address.
- Robin Barooah
I loved finger.
- j1m
Does this mean I can have a .plan again?
- Benjamin Lee
Sounds like the .plan which is (again) accessed via an id in email format and returns different information/metadata about a person depending on who's accessing it. Email id is used to do a DNS lookup in order to discover URL for the XRD file (accessed with a HTTP GET) containing the metadata about the person being, er, WebFinger-ed.
- Nenad Nikolic
it is like user authenticating, having two three ids won't hurt ;) well i don't want to be identified, they are going same as gravatar
- testbeta
It's so curious to me that people have concerns that WebFinger would lead to more spam, and yet don't like the "format" of URLs for IDs. Personally, as far as OpenID is concerned, I don't care what the identifier looks like as long as people can remember it — typically email seems easier to recall than URLs (for most people in today's world).
- Chris Messina
Some users who have an email account with Google, myself included, have oodles of incoming mail both standard and secure so it fits the bill to increase security for both vendors and marketers.
- frank burns
I have no problem with the idea, but it seems to me that it won't help the current state of affairs much. The kind of information I'd be interested in sharing via Webfinger (my OpenID, a URL to a FOAF file, etc.) will have no better adoption, so the Webfinger configuration doesn't buy me much. I'll hold out hopes that after a couple tight integrations between Webfinger and OpenID providers (say if Google, Microsoft and/or Yahoo provided and consumed both) things will improve ... here's to hoping :(
- J. McConnell
Years ago I experimented with FOAF. I didn't fully understand nor appreciate what I was doing. To serve as a warning, if you take this example, ensure that it is blocked. #Example: I sent a file to Adobe which in turn, was sent to another email account I had at the time. I verified it's sender (ME) and sent it back in the direction of travel. A signed FOAF (API KEY) was then returned...
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- frank burns
I was on EconTalk with Russ Roberts last week: http://www.econtalk.org/archive... Finally got a chance to listen, and think it came out pretty good :) Let me know what you think.
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Cool, checking it out now...
- Susan Beebe
Thanks Gary. It's the raw conversation, I believe.
- Paul Buchheit
this is really good... :) that's because Paul is uber smart and that makes this really fun
- Susan Beebe
I was pleasantly surprised to see it show up on my iPhone. Great conversation.
- Cliff Gerrish
I listened earlier this week and liked it.
- Bruce Lewis
Russ rocks! I'm an avid Econtalk viewer . I thought the interview was good and useful considering I work on the product you championed.
- Hareesh Nagarajan
I was listening to the show while running some errands this afternoon. Had to give friend feed a try and more importantly see the toe shoes.
- Eric Nelson
very good Paul so open and honest
- Thomas Power
Great interview Paul.
- τorƍue
THE LAST DAYS OF THE POLYMATH - http://www.moreintelligentlife.com/content...
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"The monomaths do not only swarm over a specialism, they also play dirty. In each new area that Posner picks—policy or science—the experts start to erect barricades. “Even in relatively soft fields, specialists tend to develop a specialised vocabulary which creates barriers to entry,” Posner says with his economic hat pulled down over his head. “Specialists want to fend off the generalists. They may also want to convince themselves that what they are doing is really very difficult and challenging. One of the ways they do that is to develop what they regard a rigorous methodology—often mathematical. “The specialist will always be able to nail the generalists by pointing out that they don’t use the vocabulary quite right and they make mistakes that an insider would never make. It’s a defence mechanism. They don’t like people invading their turf, especially outsiders criticising insiders."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
There is definitely a place for polymaths in some form: someone needs to be that people-person guy from Office Space who takes information from two or more disparate groups to form a coherent picture. But the requirement of an agreed lexicon from specialists isn't a defense mechanism: there's a lot of time that can be spent on trying to flesh out terms which could be better spent...
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- Mark Trapp
I do think there is a tendency for specialists to overcomplicate things though. Even though I know quite a bit about computers, I still don't know what people are talking about half of the time (and it usually turns out to be something simple). Making up fancy terms makes the work seem so much more magical and important, like you're on the Star Trek or something. Now go realign the tachyon beams with the anti-matter stabilizers :)
- Paul Buchheit
Haha. My background is in philosophy, where everything one can talk about probably has an -ism or a -ness or a -itude attached to it. The terms lock out people who only dabble in the hard problems, but they are great shorthand for those who are versed in it. Descartes writes about a philosophy of mind in his Meditations on First Philosophy, and a bunch of people over the course of 300...
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- Mark Trapp
Me likey
- Michael Ehline
"The question is whether their loss has affected the course of human thought. Polymaths possess something that monomaths do not. Time and again, innovations come from a fresh eye or from another discipline. Most scientists devote their careers to solving the everyday problems in their specialism. Everyone knows what they are and it takes ingenuity and perseverance to crack them. But breakthroughs—the sort of idea that opens up whole sets of new problems—often come from other fields."
- Clare Dibble
The problem with specialization is that when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Then if you encounter a screw, and hammering a screw is precisely the wrong thing to do. That's why you need generalists.
- Piaw Na
it's axiomatic that: a specialist is someone who knows more and more about less and less, until he finally knows everything about nothing
- Ervin
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert A Heinlein
- Bill de hÓra
I have to disagree with you Mark, as also having a background in philosophy, I find it is just as easy to get locked into a semantic argument about some term as it is a possible shortcut to a broader discussion. Most of time time I find people who throw around -isms would prefer not to discuss things deeply because they don't want to ever re-evaluate the basics, it's too frightening,...
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- Nicķ
Dan Pink on the surprising science of motivation - http://www.ted.com/talks...
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Some good examples on the often counter-intuitive nature of management and incentives.
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I think traditional management techniques mostly just create disincentives, sometimes intentionally but often unintentionally.
- Paul Buchheit
This is great. I want to learn more about this- especially now that I have a daughter. The talk reminds me that I wanted to read that book by Alfie Kohn (Punished By Rewards...)
- metalerik
Alfie Kohn has another great book called Unconditional Parenting. Actually, I enjoyed watching a DVD of him lecturing on that topic even more than the book. It's all great in theory, but it is interesting actually parenting and realizing how often you reach for metaphorical carrots and sticks.
- Laura Norvig
Thanks Laura, I just ordered the book.
- Paul Buchheit
LauraN, I was lucky to catch him speak in San Francisco about 18 months ago. I'm with you on theory vs practice- yikes. Still cool to keep working on it though!
- metalerik
I have had success holding his theories (which are quite well supported by research) in the back of my mind, but for concrete ideas of how to put that into practice, I turn to the Positive Discipline books by Jane Nelsen. She also had a cool podcast for awhile that is still available here http://www.positivediscipline.com/podcast... It is pretty amazing when you stop trying to "make" your...
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- Laura Norvig
This TED talk http://www.ted.com/talks... is also about the ineffectiveness of incentives. It's premise is that people want to be virtuous and do right by others.
- Laura Norvig
At one point in the Barry Schwartz video he talks about "moral heroes." My brother Peter is actually my moral hero. He's freakishly moral.
- Laura Norvig
Bump because this is really important for people to understand. Waving money is not the answer - people *want* to do a good job, we are programmed to want to solve puzzles, make connections, take the next step but the way businesses are organised actively hampers these natural traits. It has implications for EVERYTHING we do at home and at work, as individuals and as communities.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
my idealistic side says we can blame capitalism for this whole mess. money confuses life.
- Laura Norvig
Laura: capitalism may not be the best, but so far it's the only thing that scales.
- Gabe
@gabe you mean "scales" in case of american capitalism in beginning of XXI century? :)
- Отборнейший бред
By "scales", I mean it works for populations of tens of millions of people without rampant poverty or starvation. For instance, communism works fine, but doesn't scale well to thousands of people, let alone millions.
- Gabe
Devices - Shiny Devices - http://shinydevices.com/devices
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"See those two screws at the bottom of the picture? If you connect those screws to a switch of some kind, and plug the whole thing into the USB port of a computer, the switch will act as a one-key keyboard. This one happens to be an Enter key."
- ⓞnor
from Bookmarklet
$33 for a 1 key keyboard? (minus the actual key)
- Paul Buchheit
It sure is pretty though
- Jesse Stay
surely this could be done more inexpensively with an atmel or pic with usb
- joshua schachter
Or the guts from an old mouse.
- Ken Sheppardson
This is an elaborate AFD joke by Jacques, right? (Edit: by "joke", I mean I wouldn't be surprised if the description is accurate, but kind of underpromises what it can do.)
- Andrew C (✓)
Wow, he got shinydevices.com? That's a pretty good domain! Also, this device is way, way prettier than I expected. I'm really impressed by how pretty it is.
- niniane
It is kind of pretty. Who is making these?
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: When I first read "$33 for a 1 key keyboard? (minus the actual key)", I thought you were talking about an actual Apple product.
- Gabe
^^^^ like :)
- Отборнейший бред
@Gabe :D
- Jemm
Having a real "any" key is probably totally worth it.
- a runcible MiniMage
Dan was kind enough to manufacture the plastic casing pictured. It is indeed prettier than I had expected!
- Jacques Frechet
I've been thinking about hacking up a cheap USB keyboard (a la http://www.instructables.com/id... ) for a project. This device looks like it'd be easier, prettier, and possibly smaller, but $33 does seem a bit steep considering the fact that USB keyboards can be found for less than $10, and it sounds like I'd need several of these if I want to control multiple keys.
- Laurence Gonsalves
What's the project, OOC?
- ⓞnor
I was just thinking to make pedals for modifier keys, particularly shift and maybe also control, possibly starting with piano-style pedals like these: http://www.sweetwater.com/store...
- Laurence Gonsalves
How 'bout starting with some USB dictation transcription pedals?
- Ken Sheppardson
I hadn't heard of those before. Thanks. From my searches, it looks like they're for "rewind", "play/pause" and "fast-forward". I'm guessing there are special keycodes for those? I could probably remap them to the keys I want with software, but it'd be nice if they could be more "plug-and-play" (so I could move the device between machines without having to set up mappings). Do you know if any of these transcription pedals are configurable through hardware (eg: dip switches)?
- Laurence Gonsalves
BTW: I've actually seen a few companies that made exactly what I'm looking for, but they all seem to be discontinued. This page has a bunch of links: http://www.halfbakery.com/idea...
- Laurence Gonsalves
Laurence: I'm afraid all I know about them is that they exist. Sorry.
- Ken Sheppardson
Laurence: have you seen this? http://www.piengineering.com/custom...
- Gabe
...or to cut out a whole lot of work: http://www.piengineering.com/xkeys...
- Ken Sheppardson
Those products from piengineering look good. A bit pricey ($119.95 for what is effectively a 3-key keyboard) but they seem to be programmable, and I guess economies of scale work against them.
- Laurence Gonsalves
If you keep increasing the pricetag you'll reach the Optimus 3 Mini, the 3-key keyboard with separate LCD screens for each key. $179.95.
- Amit Patel
Amit, I think the Optimus 3 uses OLED screens, not LCD. Presumably that's why they're so expensive.
- Gabe
The impressive part about those devices seems to be the reprogramming of the device ROM via USB directly from this web page http://shinydevices.com/setting... (check the source)
- Thomas Amberg
What I would love to see in FriendFeed: 1) CC to facebook status (as for Twitter). 2) follow my conversation of facebook here on friendfeed, bidirectional 3) import Facebook contact in FF and see them as FF accounts. In a sentence, I would like not to use facebook anymore :) and this way is easier than bringing all the facebook user here...
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instead of shutting down FF to transfer everything on FB why don't they shut down FB and all its crappy apps and move people to FF?
- Flavio
@Nicholas: I know, I was joking! FB actually got to #3 lately! Anywway, no need to delete those apps as I never installed them, and worthless blocking them as new ones pop up every day and still people send invites over and over. That's one of the things I hate of FB (and I set my notifications so I don't receive emails everytime)
- Flavio
I second this suggestion! :-D
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
great, number one is now in! :) well, almost, is automatic, no choice for now but is fine anyway. as long as that work also for automatic imported items, now if I favorite a video on youtube it will be imported here and then goes on facebook. :)
- Daniele Dellafiore
@Daniele Looks to be limited text though. Try posting a full block of text directly to FF, it only imports the first X characters with a link, just like with Twitter. Not sure why it limits the import, as the full entry can be manually posted to FB. Still, a big improvement over the way it used to be!
- Aaron Kurtz
definetely. I would also love something like importing as imaginary friends some of your facebook contacts. That would be nice.
- Daniele Dellafiore
from email
Great post by @kyleve on software taking time and money to develop http://vibealicious.com/blog... (this is why Echo is min 12$) - great product costs $
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y_serial :: warehouse compressed Python objects with a SQL database . [py module] - http://etherpad.com/PA8Jp1089t
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Bret Taylor wrote a wonderful post about how Friendfeed uses MySQL to store schema-less data, which got me thinking about the details. Compressing pickled objects via zlib is straightforward, yet getting that BLOB in and out of a database is worth a module for Python programs requiring persistence. Currently its usefulness is getting arbitrary objects (for example, lists, dictionaries and classes) into a single compact SQLite file where tables can represent different projects. The next step is to separately index the contents, but for now an expedient retrieval remedy is to subquery appended notes, i.e. cherry-pick objects without the hassle of many scattered files and unpacking them. Feel free to comment directly on the code (it's publicly editable on Etherpad).
- Adriano
from Bookmarklet
a lot of comments there
- Vezquex
29 August, revision 8: Thanks for your suggestions. I've added some helper functions, but more importantly, now there's a quick example up front which demonstrates the entire compress/pickle/insert/subquery database cycle in a just FIVE lines of code -- really convenient, and I hope sufficiently documented. [30 Aug, rev 10: added tests, minor features.]
- Adriano
Thanks very much for the compliments. Today (2009-09-02 revision 15) I had to add another argument to functions which take a subquery in order to strictly conform to parameter substitutions per the DB-API designed to prevent SQL injection attacks. This is CRUCIAL; the EOF commentary shares the interesting details which I learned recently. #yserial
- Adriano
so how is the module working for you? Have a great weekend! \\ 2009-09-05 revision 17: added objmaxglob to conveniently handle arbitrary number of conjunctive subqueries on notes... so refining search is easier.
- Adriano
the code has *moved* to SourceForge http://yserial.sourceforge.net (download, discussion, bugs). Further comments at Hacker News http://news.ycombinator.com/item... Reddit http://www.reddit.com/r... Delicious http://delicious.com/url... Big thanks to all participants! #yserial also useful as persistent LIFO queue.
- Adriano
Facebook news feed implemented in Javascript: http://www.streamdiff.com/
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It's a pretty cool fb app.
- Paul Buchheit
reminds me about friendfeed :)
- Chris Hofmann
Wow. I do get that immediate comfortable feeling with it. It's FF minus share and hide plus the miniavatar hack http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah
Very cool. And so much snappier. Lovin' it already. And Paul, I'm assuming you're going to try to move Facebook in that direction.
- Johan Bakken
I love it. Now if only we could use it in Facebook.
- Faraz Mullick
Excellent! A bit of real-time here, a bit of hiding there and now we have the best Facebook client. Congrats!
- Andrés David Aparicio
The implementation of read state in kind of confusing. I look forward to more iteration in this space... long overdue.
- Michael Leggett
awesome
- andy brudtkuhl
Paul: does the BSD-CC license apply to code files in the dev URL?
- Andrés David Aparicio
how come that it does not update in realtime ? ah, okay,it's not ff...
- Lode Nachtergaele
I'd like it more if I could hide individual posts on a one by one basis like I can on FriendFeed.
- Thomas Hawk
It also seems like it only went three pages back for me. Would be better to page indefinitely.
- Thomas Hawk
To clarify, this isn't something that I or anyone else from FriendFeed created -- it's just a cool app. I don't know anything about the licensing terms.
- Paul Buchheit
Our wishful thinking got the best of us, it seems :)
- Andrés David Aparicio
I wonder who is behind it, I'll repeat my question in the Fan Page then...
- Andrés David Aparicio
it may not be something that FF created, but it's something along the lines of what the FF team ought to consider creating -- maybe as a place to test and experiment with engagement before considering features for broader roll out at Facebook. Creating a FF version of Facebook's news feed, complete with hide functionality, thread bumping, etc. would seem like a far more interesting way to interact with Facebook.
- Thomas Hawk
Paul, thanks for sharing it. Andrés, it is indeed BSD-CC licensed and the code is hosted on GitHub: http://github.com/nshah....
- daaku
Excellent! Thanks, Daaku.
- Andrés David Aparicio
nice! I never want to goto facebook.com again!
- Jay
LIFE - Google Books - http://books.google.com/books...
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"LIFE Magazine is the treasured photographic magazine which chronicled the 20th Century. It now lives on at LIFE.com, the largest, most amazing collection of professional photography on the internet. Users can browse, search and view photos of today’s people and events. They have free access to share, print and post images for personal use"
- Brian Sullivan
from Bookmarklet
Recent Changes to jQuery’s Internals - http://www.slideshare.net/jeresig...
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Tornado powering this blog - http://www.benjamingolub.com/e...
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So, are you planning on recreating FB in a blog, and then open sourcing that?
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Other than a cool proof of concept, what are the advantages of using Tornado for a blog? I'm just wondering because it _seems_ like you are using a super computer to add 2+2.
- Chris Myles
Tornado fits my programming style. Also it is noticeably faster than my old blog was (it was powered by a combination of Django and Google's webapp). I think Django just runs slow on App Engine due to its size. I don't think it's like using a super computer to add 2+2. Tornado *can* be used to power things like FriendFeed but it also makes a great framework for small projects like this.
- Benjamin Golub
That all sounds reasonable.. I was just wondering and trying to match the highlighted Tornado features with the requirements of a blog. Thanks for the clarification, and there is certainly nothing wrong with using a supercomputer especially if it is easier than a calculator.
- Chris Myles
Has anyone had any experience with "the transitioner" (http://people.thetransitioner.org/ - "Transitioning the world through collective intelligence") It seems like an interesting project...
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"TheTransitioner is a network, a vessel of committed pioneers, a space for learning, a place for R&D and innovation. Last but not least we are committed to build the next free currencies"
- Nathaniel Thurston
My general impression is negative. Dreamers, not doers. Well-intentioned, but impractical. But that's just a hunch I got from earlier encounters of them, and Fernanda Ibarra in particular. I have never had direct contact.
- Meryn Stol
My first impression was also negative -- I created a home page on their wiki, which was ignored, suggesting that they're "too busy" to care about talking with non-believers. A similar problem with the sign-up page for their Ning network -- they seem to want people who subscribe to a long list of religious-sounding beliefs. I tried to sign up, leaving those fields blank... again, no response. Yikes!
- Nathaniel Thurston
Still, I like their basic idea of supporting an abundance of local, community-based currencies -- it seems better than the current sinking ship of nation-state fiat currencies, and also better than corporate-sponsored currencies.
- Nathaniel Thurston
I think they've got good ideas... But I don't think they'll be the one who'll bring them to the masses the quickest. If you want to help on that, I think you could better explore the most successful alternative currency entrepreneurs and learn from them. In the end an idea of a nice "end point" won't bring you anywhere. You need to know how to get their too. You need to think entrepreneurial. What you build should fit within the existing system.
- Meryn Stol
Or you can build a new society on a private island of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
... hopefully more than 7 meters above the current sea level, and granted an immunity pass from global fishing stock depletion! Seriously, though, I've been thinking along the lines of working "within the system". The major flaw I see with promoting community currencies is the likely allergic reaction from the current legal system -- other than that, it seems to me like it would be entirely feasible.
- Nathaniel Thurston
Hello to all of you. i discovered the transitioner in April and am active with them. I know and understand your impression about thinkers / doers and wondered what they were doing. It is not really clear yet to the public, but they are building, through the metaccurency project the code to support this free currencies platform. Same goes with the flowplace. While the ning is more like a...
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- zoupic
zoupic, I'm interested in what you guys are doing, and support your goals. See, for example, http://thething.is/book.pdf or http://usemod.com/cgi-bin.... However, I sense that the transitioner doesn't have much interest in people who aren't passionate about advancing the goals of the transitioner -- and I don't have such a passion. If you like, you could suggest that the leadership there approve my pending application for membership in the ning community.
- Nathaniel Thurston
This is such an awesome feature: Google Voice Marries SMS And Email http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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How to build cheap cloud storage (67 terabyte 4U servers for $7,867) - Backblaze Blog - http://blog.backblaze.com/2009...
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Amazing level of transparency and detail about their custom storage servers. HN discussion at http://news.ycombinator.com/item... (discusses why this is appropriate for backup, but perhaps not generic storage needs)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Put me down for two.
- Jason Shellen
45 drives per unit and many units means they must be constantly replacing failed hard drives - just due to the sheer quantity of them in use
- Jacob Old
It wasn't entirely clear to me from the blog post what you have to do to replace a drive. Looks like at minimum you have to remove the unit from the rack, and I don't see any drawer guides or similar to assist with that. And do they have to take the unit offline to replace a single drive?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Geez. Back in 1998, Microsoft was bragging about their 1 TB cloud... :-) Millions of $ then I think.
- Mitchell Tsai
One happy Backblaze customer checking in.
- Russellreno
sounds neat - now what to do with 67 TB of storage...
- Matt Ellsworth
Seriously Matt! Lots and Lots and Lots of video? HD video!
- Rick Cogley
So, they store their data "securely" in Palo Alto? That makes me scared.
- Jonas S Karlsson
Quoted from blog- "Backblaze Storage Pods are building blocks upon which a larger system can be organized that doesn’t allow for a single point of failure." They have indicated an amazing amount of cost savings.
- Wins Fern
Petabyte schmetabyte.
- Rick Cogley
Mitchell: I don't think 1TB was "millions of dollars" in 1998.
- Steve de Mena
Nice idea. Pity that it only supports a HTTPS interface, not surprising at that cost though (the software that runs the filesystems on the NetApp and other devices isn't exactly cheap to write). Anyone see if they quoted transfer speeds? I'm wondering what impact the four SATA cards each with SATA multipliers on them has when it comes to access speeds.
- Russ
Steve: according to http://www.littletechshoppe.com/ns1625... disk cost ~$0.08 / mb in 1998, which comes out to >$800,000 for 1 TB or just over a million bucks in todays dollars. so maybe not millions, but a million!
- Karl Rosaen
Russ: It runs Debian. If you were rolling your own (and they don't sell these units), you could turn on NFS or some other protocol (CIFS, iSCSI). They only use HTTP because it's cloud storage. NFS license is a major expense on NetApp, but all the major Linux distributions can act as NFS servers, CIFS servers, and probably iSCSI targets.
- Andy Dustman
Andy: I know that you could do that on them but it leaves the problem of what to do with the storage. You could merge the 3 volumes into an LVM VG but the performance could become an issue with any load on it. It seems I wasn't the only one to question the performance, while the views of a Sun engineer aren't exactly unbiased it does highlight some of the downsides: http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archive...
- Russ
Russ, great find, thanks.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Fascinating article; but more questions: "In rough terms, every time one of our customers buys a hard drive, Backblaze needs another hard drive." -- so what happens when a drive fails; how much redundancy is there? What happens when a meteorite destroys the whole building; is there off site backup too? (I know this *is* the off-site backup, but still...) I wonder how much data flows in and out over time. Maybe I should just read their website.
- Rob Fisher
Rob: they mention using 15 drive RAID6 volumes that can lose up to 2 drives before failure
- Mike Chelen
The worst part about this cluster design is the fact that I couldn’t shut up about it for the first couple days after finding out about it. It was the solution I proposed to every problem. There were complaints.
- A Mitchell
IMO RAID6 is not that great. Granted, it's highly unlikely to lose 3 drives at the same time, but there's still possibility. Besides, for write-intensive app, parity calculation is quite time-consuming. I personally prefer RAID 10 (striped array of RAID1 pairs). Yes the effective usable space is less than half total capacity, but for backups -- which will sooner or later be used to restore something -- I prefer data integrity over usage efficiency.
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
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IMO RAID6 is not that great. Granted, it's highly unlikely to lose 3 drives at the same time, but there's still possibility. Besides, for write-intensive app, parity calculation is quite time-consuming. I personally prefer RAID 10 (striped array of RAID1 pairs). Yes the effective usable space is less than half total capacity, but for backups -- which will sooner or later be used to restore something -- I prefer data integrity over usage efficiency.
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
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« Ne rentre pas trop tard, surtout, ne prend pas froid » - http://narvic.fr/2009...
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- Laurent
What do you think about a closed source company having an open source roadmap? Would love feedback http://support.js-kit.com/jskit...
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Using the XMPP service - Google App Engine - Google Code - http://code.google.com/intl...
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"With the introduction of the XMPP service to App Engine, it's now possible to write an App Engine app that communicates with users - or even other applications - over XMPP, otherwise known as Jabber or Google Talk. In this article, we're going to walk through an example that covers all the basic functionality of the XMPP API."
- Casey Muller
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Years from now, when the history books are written, this week will be recognized as a pivotally beautiful one for Twitter.
WOOTNESS! Reader promo on Google.com today: http://brizzly.com/pic/4BT
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About time that Google front page got useful! :) The next step, replace Google.com with Reader...
- Louis Gray
Yup RSS is definitely not dead :-)
- Jesse Stay
Hey Jenna, any chance Reader could make shares in MediaRSS format? I'd love to be able to see the images with my shares on FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
Welcome to September! - http://www.opencalais.com/blogs...
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Wow, Oracle integrates OpenCalais!
- Ahsan Ali
My Interview With Google CEO Eric Schmidt http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
My birthday today. One of those pesky milestone birthdays.
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happy birthday :)
- abdellah
Orbited – Networking for the Web - http://orbited.org/
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Orbited provides a pure JavaScript/HTML socket in the browser. It is a web router and firewall that allows you to integrate web applications with arbitrary back-end systems. You can implement any network protocol in the browser—without resorting to plugins.
- Meryn Stol
status.net in private beta, get your own microblog http://status.net/ very cool
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Any idea how to get in on the beta?
- Kenton
They have a submission form on the status.net page, other than that i'm not "in the know" :-)
- Brian Hendrickson
http://identi.ca/evan is in charge, he's pretty helpful, would probably love to get you involved
- Brian Hendrickson
Interesting. Does this allow you to host on your own domain - not .status.net - as well?
- Meryn Stol
thx Brian
- Kenton
Hm. I just downloaded "statusnet-0.8.1.tar.gz" and the README says "This is the README file for StatusNet (formerly Laconica), the Open Source microblogging platform."
- Ken Sheppardson
Laconica is now StatusNet - http://status.net/2009...
- Ken Sheppardson
thx Ken. I think it's a cool move by the controlyourself crew
- Brian Hendrickson
Meryn I assume that's the case
- Brian Hendrickson
my open source hosted microblog project, Twitteronia, is decentralized-microblogging-compatible with StatusNet via the http://openmicroblogging.org specification, which is based on OAuth. So there will be two places to pick up a decentralized microblog on the cheap :-)
- Brian Hendrickson
socializationeur, the OMB spec and the status.net/laconica wiki are helpful resources
- Mike Chelen
@davemcclure Real-time search has many meanings - finding micro-content is probably the least interesting
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