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USAir plane lands in the Hudson River
urdumania1, jazzy-b, Turkish Delight and 43 other people liked this
But I only learned about this from Thomas Hawk first because of reverse chronological posting. ;-) Had I been reading in the order posted, Kevin Fox would have been my "news source."
- michael silverton
bump.
- Mona Nomura
You know someone somewhere caught it on video. I expect it by this evening, as soon as they find an agent.
- Kevin Fox
currently 21F in NYC. brr.
- ⓞnor
Amazing rescue. Wow.
- Jim Mitchem
Someone took a picture from the ferry http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mona Nomura
Is there anyway i can mark this as "i don't like this" i feel guilty marking this news as "i like this.
- Adam Jackson
How about just change "Like" to "Bump"?
- Roshan Vyas
Definitely feel bad about "Liking" this. Bump suggestion is good
- mashable
Launched this around my office, and people are suprised about me knowing this already.
- Stephen Lecheler
I think "Like" should be "highlight" instead.
- Richard Lawler
Behold the power of live journalisim. Just got a huge burst of data from Scoble about the plane crash in New York.
- Stephen Lecheler
That Twitpic picture made it on MSNBC and CNN wild.
- Mona Nomura
suyun üzerine düşmesi büyük şans kimse ölmemiş. hatta tv den gördüm az önce bir vatandaş sevinçle çıkıyordu uçaktan.
- Volkan Yılmaz
I found out about this and the Steve Jobs news via Twitter. Change is happening...
- Louis Gray
Crossposted: This is "augmented social cognition" in everyday action -- moniter, moniter, signal spike, relay, relay, process, relay, react, involve, resolve, reset. Rudimentary, yes, but worthy of closer research! http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- michael silverton
Hudson river plane crash nyc - sources, all collection up to date, now krunch'd at http://krunchd.com/hudsonplane
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Waiting at PHL for the first US Air flight I've taken in a long time. I'm glad everyone is ok. I was relieved to hear the evacuation was orderly and hope ppl take this as a reminder that once and a while you should actually read the instructions for the emergency exit.
- Sarah Miller
Michael, good point on "source" How news gets propagated from now on is going to get very interesting analytically.
- Melanie Reed
The path that got me the news on this oddly was having TwitterGadget open in Gmail: CNN BreakingNews pushes it to my Desktop slightly faster than NTARC twitters it in my TwitterGadget window. I immediately tweet to my followers and then go to check FF
- Melanie Reed
macro- blogsearch has in general 270 macro blogs on this story ; compared with maybe 100.000 twitters on this, extremely slow as expected ; btw, coincidence that google took down 4 of their services today??? maybe they needed new server space for * this* [did google/nasa crash the hudson plane ?? [cp 2.o theory]...
more...
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
^^^ PAGING SPAM KILLER TEAM. Thx.
- Micah
from YouFeed
Micah, put it in the Spam Group.
- Rochelle
Dealt with. (My first thought was 'oh crap, another jet landed in the Hudson??')
- Kevin Fox
Yeah, I was kind of psyched out too, Kevin. Rochelle, I'm now subscribed - thank you both.
- Micah
I am from Turkey. :)
- Cihan Özbek
Kevin, are you talking about the ewing2001akaNicomedy2010 account? I'm still seeing it.
- Rochelle
It's not actually spam. Read the comment: it's on topic. The rest of the account isn't spammy either.
- Akiva
No, we weren't talking about ewing2001. There was a spammer (username suatuigamala) leaving commentspam in the post. It's an unfortunate artifact that Micah's calling-out now points to an innocent commenter after the spam was removed. :-)
- Kevin Fox
Heh. How do you know you are visiting a REAL startup? They don't even have chairs yet at http://www.citysourced.com/login... so we are sitting on floor.
Kazutaka Ogaki, earl wallace, Jimminy, CoG of FF and 3 other people liked this
Bless
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Compare the engagement on this item to this one: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... Pics or nobody cares that it happened.
- Bruce Lewis
duck duck goose? :-P
- Allen Stern
Scoble, you should hand them a 20 so they can a least get themselves some cheap stools.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
FriendFeed accepts Facebook friend request - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
chaz2b, گاما, حُسین آفلاین and 611 other people liked this
We've been acquired by Facebook! We are really excited about joining the Facebook team. (Note: FriendFeed will continue to operate - see the blog post for details)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Boom.
- Louis Gray
Grr!
- directeur
Woah...
- Brandon Titus
Uh. Well, that's the end of that.
- Akiva
Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
What does this mean for FriendFeed, Bret?
- Kol Tregaskes
Lame.
- Mark Trapp
great title bret. well played.
- MG Siegler
WOW
- Bindu Reddy
Congrat! So, what does this mean to your team and to FF in general?
- Dilip Dand
wahhhhhhhhhh
- Myrna
maaaan
- Jamie
wowow
- Harry Wolff
congrats
- brainno722 (Peter)
Nooooooooooooo
- Mushin
Wait... seriously?
- Ken Sheppardson
Congratulations to the friendfeed team. I know this is huge for y'all. Please don't let us spoil your parade as we weep.
- Alleluiabug Heather
Seriously?!? .....
- sebastian☆rocket brother
oh boy.
- Carlos Ayala
it was good while it lasted, Friendfeed. :(
- holly #ravingfangirl
OMG
- deerstep
"FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team." Those are NOT encouraging things to read as a FF user.
- Hiding in Two Corners
gratz
- Ali
My heart is sinking as I type this. Please tell me that it isn't a late April Fool's joke. :(
- Tyson Key
Big news! I second Kol & dilip's request for what this means for the team and FF's future.
- Brandon Titus
O_o
- The Silence
So it IS true.
- Hector
Nicely done Bret
- Jennifer Van Grove
Sniff... not sure if I'm excited about this. But I have enormous respect for the FriendFeed team... so, I assume they believe in the move as more than an exit strategy.
- Michael Leggett
Congratulations btw, guys!
- Kol Tregaskes
Congrats, Bret.
- Jordan Hofker
Congratulations, I suppose. A bit worried Facebook is going to ruin everything though. I'm not fond of Facebook, to say the least.
- Morgaine LeFaye
Um.
- Barry Mitchelson
Oh my... Hopefully FriendFeed won't vanish and good luck :)
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Do we call it FaceFeed? FriendBook?
- Tyson Key
Oh no....
- Ben Hanten
damn here it is... :(
- Edgar Rodríguez
*waits for wall-to-wall ads and constant spambots*
- The Silence
FriendFace!!! (i love it crowd)
- Bahriye
Die.
- zio bonino
Congrats
- Zoltan Szendro
I dont want FF to end
- Fee501st
Wow
- Shevonne
Ostregheta.
- reloj
Congrats guys, in a bittersweet sort of way.
- Hutch Carpenter
Oh no!
- Erdinc YILMAZEL
I like Friendfeed and I do not like Facebook. Gratz to you guys though, I think.
- Mark Sorrell
"Oh shit..." came to mind immediately. :(
- Tyson Key
Scott, yep not encouraged by that comment. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Congrats on the deal, best wishes to the FF'ers in helping facebook get it together!
- Sean O'Connor
This could get exciting, especially concerning twitter :-P
- Malte Steckmeister
Congrats for Friendfeed team, but I'm seriously worried for us :(((((((((((
- Roberto
Congratulations... I'm sure this is pretty exciting for everyone at FriendFeed... We're all looking forward to where it takes you!
- Nathan Chase
Wow
- Rodfather
wow
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
*Sobs*
- Tyson Key
come on. Bret, facebook is so closed. so different from Friendfeed. besides that. Congrats to the team
- Edgar Rodríguez
machecazzo
- Sba (stolto birrafondaio)
VERY disappointed.
- The Silence
Booo. But, you know, congrats.
- Chris Nixon
OMG WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SH*T
- Alp
Congrats for u guys... probably too bad for us ;-(
- Laurent
God, I can see FB shutting down FF just like Six Apart shut down Pownce.
- DarknessFalls
arg.
- Aron Michalski
Good for you, don't know for all of us
- Cristian Conti
Congrats!
- Gypsy
Coolest web 2.0 site I've ever seen & used. I hope things don't derail. Ads will be coming soon, which is fine, but.... then what 's next? Please no quizzes!
- Ben Hanten
Who would have thought that after Facebook were shamelessly being "inspired" by FriendFeed, the inevitable would have happened?
- Tyson Key
Congrats!
- Moushumi Kabir
Congrats guys. :)
- Meryn Stol
Congratulations. This is awesome for you and for Facebook.
- Mike Sego
mommy?
- Josh Haley
Hey guys, keep in mind that Facebook is blocked in workplaces across the nation. 250 million casual users commenting about last night's party does not intelligent conversation make.
- Hector
yes you have just failed at failing, no it is not a double negative.
- Bahriye
Tragic.
- Shannon
I really can't see how FB would buy FF only to shut it down. There are way too many innovations and features FF has that FB honestly needs. I'm looking forward.
- Harry Wolff
Congrats? Everybody who's saying Congrats doesn't know what he's saying. Go to hell.
- zio bonino
Yeah, quizzes are EVIL!
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Oh, this does not make me happy. Not at all! I've stayed off of Facebook intentionally and FriendFeed is my favorite social network. This is like when the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees. :>(
- Larry Hawes
i have stopped using FB for the most part and liked FF alot more. now FF will go the way of FB. screwed again.
- The Silence
Berge Gazen beat your score in Mafia Wars
- Berge Gazen
Feedface or Facefeed?
- Fee501st
FUCK THAT ! [Anyways good job guys ^^]
- TiTi
Enjoy your fat paychecks, guys. You've sold us out.
- Akiva
Bravo Bret! Been following your successes ever since we had the opportunity to work together on the YellowPages.ca / Google Maps Canada deal. Congrats!
- Sebastien
I wished it was Google or even Yahoo!, instead...
- Tyson Key
i really hope ff stays as it is. fb is kinder carder while ff is a great tool.
- jkkmobile
Not sure what to make of this. It could eiter be a big win or a huge fail.
- dorn
It could have been Microsoft, which would have been worse for everyone. :(
- Tyson Key
Can I take this opportunity to say I HATE facebook?
- Alex Scrivener
seems the only ppl happy here are the ones in the biz or who stand to profit from the merger.
- The Silence
I guess we should get ready to get poked by our supposed friends and have various shit thrown at us? Plus 5,000 requests by apps that nearly all suck.
- Joey Gibson
duh
- aybars badur
I HATE facebook
- Pedram
this is simply awful.
- The Silence
Painful. And apparently I completely misunderstood what FF was trying to accomplish both technically and as an organization. I guess Facebook must have dangled a pretty big bag of money in front of them.
- Ken Sheppardson
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! :/
- Tyson Key
Awesome. Please fix Facebook email :) http://fudge.org/too-muc...
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook is going to acquire the web!
- l'Ego di Gigi
To me, FriendFeed is like Porsche and Facebook a Kia. I'm curious to see which will become which..
- Moushumi Kabir
Oh noes!
- Burcu Dogan
Congrats Bret!
- Robin Dindayal
I will reserve judgement, i don't like or use FB but if FF maintains it's current goodness i don't care who cuts the checks.
- SteVe "Glory Juice" C
I hope this doesn't turn into an APP filled hunk of crap. I love FriendFeed, it was the untouched gem of microblogging. I don't want Mafia Wars invited in my FriendFeed!!! Congrats on the sale though.
- Jay 'Farmington'
Where's the "dislike" option?
- Gregor Morrill
+1 Gregor
- Tyson Key
accipicchia che pessima notizia
- massimo mantellini
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!!! -_-
- Bahriye
I just realized this is like when K-mart bought Sears ...
- DarknessFalls
/ponders the meaning of "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being."
- Philipp Lenssen
And I will officially be leaving FriendFeed today.
- Michael Forian
omg
- John Mueller
@Philipp: until the new masters start flexing their muscles and bringing in their own people to enforce their own vision.
- The Silence
Such great news!
- Steve Rubel
OMG!
- Zac Bowling
big mistake :((
- emresezgin
I suppose it will be called FriendFace? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Phil Harrison
Oh. Hell. No.
- CannonGod
Oh My God! They Killed FriendFeed!
- Tyson Key
It's a win/win! congrats all.
- Alan Le
Congrats to you.
- Evan Travers
Congratulations. I look forward to seeing what this new partnership means for users.
- Aren Grimshaw
FF will surely be integrated into FB at some point?
- Kol Tregaskes
damn Ken is spot on! +1000 Ken!
- vijay
not good.
- Jacque
Oh. My. Gosh.
- Enrico Lamperti
Facebook obviously liked FriendFeed a long time ago. Why would they have copied so many features (feed item comments and the "Like" action, to name a couple) otherwise? It was only logical for this to happen eventually. Doesn't mean I like it, but acquisition is part of the game. I have the same feeling I did when SocialThing! was acquired by AOL, though.
- dgw
"Relationship Status: It's complicated" comes to mind. ;)
- Tyson Key
Wow, I finally sign up, and read this. This could end up being a very bad thing for FF fans: "Your FriendFeed friend just signed up on this poll, would you like to too?"
- Brian Bommarito
sad...
- Marvin
This will give FriedFeed the attention it deserves. Otherwise it would have been a geek thing forever.
- Michael Netsch
aw, this sux!! Congrats to the Friendfeed team though!
- acedanger
please don't merge logins!!! please
- earlyadopter
They are deceived when they suffer themselves to be drawn after the image of things, without seeking for the true reason of them.
- The Complex Days
I hope it works OK to you guys!
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
D:
- Chris Charabaruk
+1 Netsch - I still like FF more but this finally legitimizes FF to the mainstream.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Friend request una beata fava. Pecunia non olet.
- Federico Bolsoman
Yeah, I really can't wait to see what value the Ashton Kutchers and Oprahs of the world have to add to FriendFeed.
- Akiva
Please tell me this is a delayed April Fools' Day joke.
- Rochelle
Facebook & FriendFeed: don't cross the lifestreams! D:<
- CannonGod
I guess this means I'll have toget a facebook account after all.... Hope the API stays up and running....
- Roberto Bonini
"Were rich B!tch!" - Chappelle
- adolfo foronda
What a bunch of greedy assholes.
- zio bonino
So ?
- Ercan Bülbül
Does this mean that we'll be seeing an influx of webcam spammers, a la Twitter? Along with abolishment of the rooms feature, crappification of the search feature, and more "privacy features" that really just put more nails in the openness coffin?
- Tyson Key
:(
- Pavlo Zahozhenko
Some people will do whatever their friends request........
- Michael Muller
I really don't see why people would be anything but excited about this Facebook freindfeed deal. Great news as far as I am concerned. The Friend feed team is going to go over facebook and make it that much easier to connect, share... isn't that what the social web is about?
- Kevin Murray
I know a lot of people who use Facebook and enjoy it and that's fair enough. It's just not my cup of tea. The chaps from Friendfeed will get rich and the technology will get absorbed in Facebook but I can't see Friendfeed continuing in anything like it's present form.
- Paul Nash
Don't be so negative, something good might eventually come of this...
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Congrats! I know you all must be crazy excited right now.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
chance for FriendFeed to become more mainstream... congrats FriendFeed team!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Nothing could make me happier than if they integrated the good tools from FriendFeed into Facebook, which is where all my friends are. So a big "yay!" from me.
- Ian Betteridge
happy for you guys, but not for all of us
- Flavio
congratulations. this is going to be interesting.
- Dave Beckett
I think I preferred the non-mainstream version of FriendFeed...
- Tyson Key
I'm turning on my black shirt, my black trouser, my black socks, my black shoes. Although I probably must be happy for you.
- Ton Zijp
NASTY NASTY BAD BAD. But we'll see...
- Daniel Morgan
Game over.
- stark
yeah removing feed also works.
- Bahriye
Reminds me so much of Last.fm fall...
- Marcos
Facebook is like a giant who listens to nobody. Please keep your attitude but I don't think you will be able to do so.
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
Noooooooo......
- Sung W. Lim
yeahhh
- Çağrı Burak Sürer
NO
- Cristian Conti
I don't know, Like it? or dislike it?
- Ömer Balamir
What happens to all the content that we've created and imported here, and the associated metadata? Will all that disappear into the ether?
- Tyson Key
If the FriendFeed guys can make FaceBook useful and responsive again, this seems like a pretty positive step!
- Robin Barooah
I have big loss of data concerns. See http://ff.im/6pHjo Is there any way to archive all my FriendFeed posts, likes, comments, and pictures (friendfeed-media.com) off-line? Can some Archive.org-like snapshots of FriendFeed be made (Once a month starting Sept 2009)? I'd like to see the cross-links between my posts & other people's posts, even in 2020. -
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell: the FriendFeed site is not shutting down. Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users.
- Bret Taylor
I just overheard a coworker mention FriendFeed. This is how the world ends...
- CannonGod
Then provide us with a way to easily make a back-up of all of our posts and all of the posts we have Liked and Commented on.
- Akiva
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want it to be handed off to Facebook.
- zio bonino
Near term future?
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't see good things coming from this. Although I like Facebook, I liked Friendfeed more. Partly because of the environment and the smallness of it. That is now going to be ruined. So, 10-1 odds that Friendfeed will be no more within a year after it gets intergrated into Facebook?
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
I doubt it Robin. Bret can only give us assurances about the "near future." Here's what I think will happen. Just like Twitter acquired Rael Dornfest and his awesome web services, Stikkit and I Want Sandy vanished (and so did he), Facebook will acquire all the talent from Friendfeed, shut this service down and Facebook will continue to suck.
- Jim the Blatant
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want anything to be handed off to Facebook. And I don't want to lose anything.
- zio bonino
Congrats obviously, but im not sure about the feeling,, different user groups which can not integrate but collide.. hope there wont be an huge integration in the future.
- Yunus Tunak
I'm happy for FriendFeed! But, at the same time a bit worried about the future. Hope you guys convince FB to not be evil too.
- Vishal Verma
Let's hope this is like Disney's acquisition of Pixar - wherein the Pixar guys ended up in control of the animation studio...
- Robin Barooah
from IM
Where the f*ck is this option to undo ?
- Laurent
I seriously thought this was a joke. Looks like its not. I don't like it, sorry.
- Michael Lynton
Does anyone want to start a bounty to purchase Facebook? ;)
- Tyson Key
Congratulations!
- John Craft
can't be, shouldn't be...
- Kemal Y.
It is! Change is inevitable, my friends.
- Bill Sodeman
Jim, I'm less cynical than you - the FriendFeed founders wouldn't do this just in order to become 'talent' at FaceBook.
- Robin Barooah
I feel if I should be wearing a black arm band. But I guess when I think about it..............
- Kevin J Hatton
Oh No! I don't like this at all :(
- Peter
I still think Apple will acquire Facebook, Twitter Friendfeed and Google Twitter.
- Thomas Power
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
- Stephen Francoeur
My condolences to all Friendfeeders! RIP!
- Evgeni Leshtanski
AAAAwwwful!
- carolh
I can't believe it! damn! facebook tos will apply to friendfeed too? should i start to move to another service? why anyone would think that facebook public is friendfeed public?! damn! friedfeed was my favorite! I can't understand this move! they want to kill friendfeed or what?
- paula simoes ☃
"I bet I can find 1.000.0000 people who dislike this deal."...Welcome to FriendBook.
- Jacque
Well, huge congraulations to you and your team, you deserve every success. To be honest I had presumed this would happen sooner or later - the only business model cool little startups have is to hope they get bought by someone bigger for their brains and technology. I'm going to be in San Francisco in a couple of weeks and was going to stop by your office to bring you a cake and thank you for a great product - maybe I still will if you're still there and there's still a FriendFeed!
- Alex Lomas
damn, damn, damn...
- Kemal Y.
Grats Bret and the rest of FF. To all the naysayers... Lets see what happens before we start bitching....
- Rasmus Lauridsen
wow!! dazed and confused!!
- Roberto Arancibia
I don't hate Facebook, but for sharing things Friendfeed is MUCH MUCH better!
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
I wonder if that Ben Darnell guy who *just* left the Google reader team knew about this beforehand? Wonder what he's thinking now? (http://friendfeed.com/friendf...)
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Just great. I'm certainly not very happy about this. Let's just hope FB doesn't ruin FF. Ugh.
- axolote
Who cares? Nothing's gonna change in our pitiful lifes.
- bluretina
This ties in nicely with the fact that you soon will have the opportunity to make your Facebook profiles public and get followers there.
- Michael Netsch
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- старина хэнк
Congrats Bret! this is so great! many congrats!!!
- Jason Pollock
That is capitalism for you. Luckely, there still good 'ol usenet.
- ˈpɛbə
Is it April 1st somewhere in the universe?
- Robert Felty
I don't mean to be negative but there's got to be a win-win logic to each merger&acquisiton. Audience high in only quantity is clearly not a win for friendfeed in the long term by considering its unique selling points. Let's wait and see who will benefit from friendfeed's death now.
- ayca
Seriously, what is this? It's like Bret just announced that he's killed all your mothers or something. It could turn out good, it could turn out bad, but at the end of the day, who cares, it's just a website (I mean honestly, come on). I could see it going either way, but in the near term, this is a pretty big win for the FF team, so congrats guys.
- Chieze Okoye
OMG!
- keso
To be honest, my heart sank a little but I am happy to congratulate you and the team for building such a good brand. Well done.
- Kevin J Hatton
Wow, I specifically use friendfeed b/c it is not facebook. Sounds great for the friendfeed team, but not necessarily for friendfeed users.
- Evan Parker
Born to be sold, like in the old "new economy" era. Remember the late nineties?
- Federico Bolsoman
Sudden desire to check out Strands again... but hey, kudos on the incoming $$ for FF team
- Leslie Poston
This is wisdom. Bracing for Google Wave is a good idea.............
- Kevin J Hatton
this is clearly a talent aquisition... why am i not excited about this? could it be because facebook has been blatantly stealing features from friendfeed shamelessly. Likes were clearly not an original facebook idea...realtime feeds is another i could go on...
- Tate
While I'm sad, because I suspect this means the best things about FF will disappear or I'll be forced to use FB in some way, if the buyout was for some awesome amount of money, I can't say I blame 'em for taking an offer -- I would.
- Andy Bakun
I came to FriendFeed because I don't like facebook. Now the question is, will facebook become more like friend feed? or will they just take friend feed and turn it into facebook?
- Tom Ray
FF could be a good R&D arm for facebook.
- Andy Bakun
Fucking morons. FriendFeed is doomed now. Think logically. Facebook has NO REASON to keep FriendFeed alive. It will simply take FF's best features, suck the life of out of it, then trash FF. Way to go, FirnedFeed, damn.
- Jeremy Buff
Big Fail!
- onurc
This announcement should have been held off until the plans for Friendfeed were known. Regardless, this is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone.
- tollie williams
wtf ?!
- Umut Balkan
I need to install "super PUKE" application !
- Bart LePoole
FFail.
- rowlikeagirl
I don't want my FF feed on Facebook :( I use both, but maintain both profiles separate
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Sigh... Happy for the team if this is what they want, but baffled by the move. The users that are going to leave because of this will make FF a graveyard and the users it gains, well... Hello spam? Sorry, but I don't like it.
- Vince DeGeorge
from iPhone
JEREMY+++++1
- Alp B.
Wow!
- felix
Jeremy +1
- batuhan
so what's next? where should we go?
- Flavio
It's been fun here.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Dang, and just as I was starting to get used to how FF works. FF is useful on it's own. I hope this only improves FF's system, rather than having it disappear into Facebook's wake.
- Don Faulkner
My big question to everybody here is this: What are the potential downsides / upsides to this acquisition? I mean on paper I just don't see what the pros OR cons are. I don't care for Facebook but I don't see how them acquiring FF is going to change everything.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
furthermore they are 2 different things: I follow a lot of people here that are not in my facebook list, which is for IRL friends!
- Flavio
I don't know where to go next either. I had just settled down to make imaginary friends for all my non-FF tweeps, etc. now, I'm not sure if I should bother.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I hope friendfeed continues to operate normally but it does not look good.
- Ashish
integrate best features of ff to fb, then try to innovate in fb if possible, then kill ff... that's it, cheers, all the best. grrrr...
- Kemal Y.
niczak has good points. FF & FB aren't exactly competitors, but they aren't orthogonal either. Let's hope FB's smart enough to see the difference and improve both platforms.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Nicholas: The upside for Facebook is they just bought an engineering team that's built many of the feature's Facebook's going to need to stay competitive. The upside for FriendFeed's engineering team is $$$ and the ability to build system for a wider audience. FriendFeed's user base is small enough that it'll either get absorbed into Facebook or move on, and FF will become a footnote on the Internet timeline.
- Ken Sheppardson
first tr.im (heard about it yesterday), now this. I wasn't a heavy tr.im user (yet), but sad to see it go, even if I think url shortening is silly.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
As FB said they're interested in the people and not in the site, what if the community will keep running FF without its current staff?
- Flavio
Congratulations!
- Sam Grover
rutgerblom, I don't expect they do either, thus my angst over this.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
if there's a team willing to do it and money, and if we accept some ads as everywhere else, we could make a new FF without FB
- Flavio
read carefully: http://blog.socialthing.com/2009...
- Kemal Y.
I'll have to go with Flavio's position too. Given this news (plus tr.im and who knows who's next), I'd tend to favor community supported or federated services for things like this in the future.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I am purposely not on facebook because I don't really want to talk to people I have not talked to in 20 years.
- Andy Bakun
Congrat Bret!! :))
- Cihan Cepni
trouble is (from my perspective), that the philosophies of the two platforms are at odds. FB wants to bring people to the site and keep them there, while FF is a hub, bringing people in and then sending them back out. (That's part of why it's hard for the newcomer to understand, IMHO.)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
This almost confirms FF will disappear: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Kol Tregaskes
Does this mean I can throw someone a sheep on FriendFeed now?
- Pinksy
I sure hope so, Rutger. I glad for their success too. I just hope there's a next best thing out there for us.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Congrats all. Nice work, in spite of any naysaying out there. Keep up the innovation.
- Tomas Remotigue
lame.
- andy brudtkuhl
post the picture to failblog...
- Kemal Y.
Quote «Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority.¶ But Facebook is...
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- Philipp Lenssen
+1 Kol for the techcrunch article!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
techcrunch: "Cox agreed, noting that Facebook is focused on being a platform and a service, and not just a destination site." I certainly hope so!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Brilliant move by both Facebook and friendfeed. Congratulations!!! I have theories of what they have planned, but I doubt you would verify any of them. This is going to go so well with their SocialTV which they have been developing. I'm so happy for you!
- Michael Fidler
Really saddened by this news.
- Doug Beeferman
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
- LouCypher
I don't see what's so bad about it since no one knows right now what the outcome will be, everyone is just making assumptions that could possibly be wrong..... Might help just sitting back and seeing what happens first before complaining.
- ChaCha Fance
Nooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrghh! I´ve resisted getting a facebook acct for so long...
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
I wonder how the discussion over on facebook would compare to this?
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Drat!
- Gee Ekachai
congrats guys!
- Elad
Congrats, FF! I'm approaching the situation with cautious optimism. A lot of my friends only share stuff via the Facebook wall/feed, so if Facebook is able to make their feed more like the FF feed (i.e. good, instead of sucktacular) through this acquisition, it's mostly a win for me in the end.
- Brian Chang
/me pokes Rutger. (just getting in practice. ;)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Where will we go for the FFunderCats, bacon memes, and angry artists fighting over photo reshares now? ;)
- Tyson Key
@josh: do you think FB will throw away all the crap people use? various quiz, pick 5 and so on?
- Flavio
@jc: our data will not go away in the near future. what will be in few months? in a year?
- Flavio
Let's see if you can do a bit better than just not being evil this time around.
- Tim Tyler
Wooohooo!!, seems like we are being sent back to "good" old Facebook. Congrats Bret!!
- DanDan
Looks like I'm going to repeat the same thing many others did. My first reaction was "Oh my..." I have refused to join Facebook due to its philosophy while I have been with FriendFeed from the beginning for its. I'm sad and somewhat apprehensive.
- Sean Leather
Hmm. Interesting.
- Ralf Becker
Add me to the fearful group.
- beersage
Please say that facebook.com will be shutting down, and the combined company will still be called FriendFeed... I bet it won't happen, though.
- Tyson Key
"Regarding FB/FF - Here's how it's [probably] going to work. You will most likely have an account merge, all of the services FriendFeed supports will now be aggregated on Facebook, and all of your FriendFeed friends will be in a "list" on Facebook. The FF Groups will become Facebook Groups. The FF lists will become Facebook Lists." http://ff.im/6pNxq
- Ozgur Uckan
Nothing like an early retirement payout :)
- Owen Greaves
Congrat Bret
- Nimaa
Panic attack. Congratulations, however! :)
- Count Caturday
Congratulations Bret. For me this merger makes a lot of sense. Facebook will provide the "quantity" of users, which friendfeed deserves :).
- Karthick R
:(
- goodmachine
FriendFeed + Facebook... Oh noes FriendFace is coming (http://www.youtube.com/watch...)! Now sorry for that link, and seriously, thanks for your work, guys. Please don't let the spirit of FriendFeed to be blown away =)
- Anton
hey, that is great guys! interested to see how you integrate.
- Brian Walsh
Mind blown. Never expected this. I'm also disappointed, yet optimistic at the same time.
- Angus Burton
Kinda curious to see how this will all pan out...although i wouldnt want the friendfeed stuff just integrated into facebook. I feel like im among a group of people who i genuinely share interests with here...dont want to lost that.
- Cass
Best case: Facebook will continue to support and develop FriendFeed. Worst case: this is great news for Amplifeeder.
- David Gaw
aieeeeeeeeeee
- Richard Akerman
Well done, well deserved, I hope FB's means and infrastructures empower your guys to even better things. But if quizzes appear in "my" friendfeed, evil things will haunt you and your descendents for 3 generations.
- Iphigenie
:(
- Eph Zero
Well done Bret!
- Alemsah Ozturk
♪ ♪ This is the end.... beautiful friends ♪ ♪
- All for design
Well, I don't see the point of sticking around here if I have accounts in both and this is going to get swallowed whole into Facebook anyways. Put simply, goodbye.
- Micah Collard
It was fun while it lasted.
- Mr. Gunn
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! This place will be just like twitter...
- count
Congrats to the FF team - you've built a wonderful product!
- Michael Nielsen
Whattttttttttttttttttttt???
- Nibi
friendfeed is a beautiful product, only god knows what facebrook will do to it. Hopefully the ability to upload files (such as mp3s) will not be removed. Zuck is a tool.
- Nibi
Congratulations. I'm sorry to say that I don't plan to move with you.
- Lars Juhl Jensen
I don't like this....
- Zekeriya Pehlivan
"Like" to follow this thread. Not because I like what happened. I'm horrified. FF could disappear now.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Same here, Kamilah.
- Tyson Key
If FriendFeed had invented the "don't like" button, today would have been the day to press it.
- Vishal Verma
and I just bought BuddyFeed for my iPhone this weekend. :(
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Oh, joy, Facebook's privacy policy is upon us!
- Joris
WTF?? NOOOOO!!! Why do such good things have to be ruined by greed? Screw Facebook, and goodbye Friendfeed.
- Jason R. Hunter
congratulations!
- Loic Le Meur
Facebook is lucky to have such a talented group of people ... Congratulations FriendFeed!
- Rob Kurrus
doesn't look like a bad joke, better be for the good then, but... Well congrats anyway guys, you did something AWESOME now let's see where Mark takes it
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
That's too bad. Liked the openness if FriendFeed, and the lack crap that is on Facebook. Once FriendFeed dies, it will be Twitter only.
- Mike D.
Congrats, but concerned that FriendFeed and its tools may disappear. Merging the tools with Facebook seems impossible.
- Mike Reynolds
Congrats guys (and gals) !
- Benjy Weinberger
So, what does the acquisition of FriendFeed by Facebook mean to us, users of both websites: Can I make a friend request from FriendFeed, and be approved for both, on one click
- Reyna Carlos
Exciting news guys. I am actually looking forward to your collaboration with / work for FB. No matter what people may or may not like about FB, it does succeed in reaching a more "diverse" audience compared to most other Web 2.0/social web companies. Paired with your team's excellence in realizing features that succeed in pleasing the geekiest of Web 2.0 affine individuals, I think you are steering towards exciting waters :)
- Mustafa K. Isik
*heart sinks* actually a bit of shock - I think that Facebook will leave Friendfeed as-is but I don't think there is hope for future innovation in Friendfeed since their best superstar team members will be pulled onto 'more important' Facebook issues...
- Pon
:-) + :-( very happy for the team, huge achievement, hoping to see export of innovation but not a shut down of this unique community and location
- Majento
Congratulations, and best wishes for your future together! :-)
- Ruchira S. Datta
Wow, I was beginning to use Friendfeed as my defacto social site...Facebook is more for real life friends. They'll just take what makes Friendfeed great, add it to Facebook and slowly kill this site.
- Manuel Mas
What is the big deal? I think it'll make FF bigger and better. You should be happy about that!
- orionstarr
Somebody has to got pay for it.
- orionstarr
I am disappointed. I don't want to have to go to Facebook to do what i do here. I can not imagine they will port over all the features we enjoy here. We lose a lot for only a slight benefit to Facebook.
- Robert
It could be worse, myspace could've bought them lol...
- orionstarr
Awful news for users but congratulations to you guys. Ideally, FB will run FF as a distinct service but I'm not hopeful. I don't want the diversity and noise that facebook brings - people doing quizzes on which movie star they resemble and playing silly games. I also wanted to keep my day to day social activity distinct from the targeted information and discussion I use FF for.
- Rajit
Only just started taking a serious look at FF after hearing acquisition by FB. Sounds like I'm laggard rather than a leader in use of web 2.0
- ManojRanaweera
I think how Pon said it is what I'm feeling: *heart sinks*.
- Andy Bakun
Congratulations, i am really happy for you guys!! :)
- Mona Nomura
I'm not a Facebook fan, but can't begrudge the FF gang their chance to reap the rewards for all their hard work. However, it would be a shame if FB ruins the good thing we all have going here.
- Ken Morley
Congrats to the FF team... I hope the service doesn't disappear into a fold of light and heat.
- Brandon
if all the things that make FF great are brought to FB then I'll be happy to use it
- Mike Chelen
The community won't be there. Been on FB longer than any other, don't have nearly the relationship or sense of community there that I do here or on Twitter.
- Karoli
Karoli: that is due to the effectiveness of the FF platform and interface, which help to join conversations and find interesting people more so than FB does
- Mike Chelen
Mike: I suspect that FB wants FF for the search possibilities, not the community-building aspects. But we'll see.
- Karoli
i guess congrats are in order, but I'm going to now go and remove everything I have that feeds into FF, and I have to ask -- do I have any rights over my archive? I have a private feed, and I have no interest in offering up my lifestream to the FaceBook data-miners. I hope the FF folks get what they hope for out of the deal, but my FriendFeed experience has been effectively killed.
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I just learned about the FF acquisition by Facebook - WOW~! Congratulations Bret, Paul and FF team!! holy cow ........Mooooooooo! Where's the FF Acquisition Party? :)
- Susan Beebe
Friendfeed after Facebook http://ff.im/6q5EY
- Ozgur Uckan
RT @alirizaesin FriendFeed, R.I.P. Home tweet home!..
- Ozgur Uckan
Congrats to facebook. Now, Twitter is the best.
- miocaro
Congratulations to the FriendFeed guys on the Facebook Acquisition. Not a big fan of Facebook, so I hope my favorite Uber Aggregator, Realtime Social, Microblogging site of awesomeness is not entirely absorbed into the Facebook infrastructure. I wait with baited breath to hear what "normally for the time being" means ;).
- Tom Horn
Can I now have comments propagate in both directions as far as Facebook/Friendfeed is concerned?
- Piaw Na
*checks date*. Damn .. not April 1st, must be for real. While I'm happy for the FF team, since I guess this is what they wanted (congrats guys!), I can't help but think this is the beginning of the end for a great service and a vibrant community. There are reasons I don't spend any time on Facebook and do spend lots of time on FF, and some kind of "FF integrated into Facebook" just won't cut it. I hope this service will live on for at least a few more years.
- Andrew Perry
Gratz to the FF team but as a user I'm not completely happy. In short, I like the FF team/product much more than I like the FB team/product. Best of luck to all.
- timepilot
Все, блядь, пиздец!
- ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
WOW - very happy for all of you :-)
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Bret, congrats on the acquisition. You guys put in a lot of hard work to create this community. I just hope you learned the mistakes Pownce made, Jaiku etc, and ensured that you didn't sell out your community, but that you helped it evolve into something as great as this into something better. Good luck in future endeavors!
- Mike Lewis
Yay for you guys, I mean that seriously, I 'like' what this means for you personally, but -1000000 cool points for doing it with FB. Sad day.
- Threepwood
Karoli: FF search is so useful because it is integrated with all the other great features that help to find relevant content. if FB wants to have a similar capability, they must also develop the underlying architecture.
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Sadness
- yasin
Gimme my OPML export
- Sriks7
Money is the root of all evil
- Shakeel Mahate
shakeel, the reasons for friendfeed to join facebook are probably about other things besides money, since many of the FF staff left high-paying jobs to join in the first place
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Congrats, team! It's bittersweet, though.
- Anne Bouey
So now we will have FriendFeed blocked at work too. Darn.
- Mark Scrimshire
"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future" is not exactly inspiring for the long term for those of us who came here to escape Facebook for a) it's walled garden and b) privacy concerns. Nice for the Founders to make a pile of cash but for the many of us, it feels like we got sold down the river. Sad.
- Sally Church
This is tragic. Tragic. Tragic.
- Ahsan Ali
cacarr: updates for FB have progressed rapidly in the past, count how many months since new features such as api calls and site redesigns have have been implemented
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Congratulation to the FF team! You guys deserves this. I just hope that Facebook does not change the directions of FF.
- Vinko
congrats, I'm happy for friendfeed...
- amelia arapoff
Congrats you guys, well deserved.
- Shey
I hope this means better integration: liking here will auto-like on fb and such :D if that's the case, I won't mind the ads *wink* *wink*
- Ac0n (former Franc)
Franc, cant stand facebook ads in their current format, hope they will be fixed eventually :P
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Grats, dont spend it all in one place.....
- Robert Higgins
congrads. I think it will be good for BOTH companies.
- Logan Lindquist
boo.
- kelly
The Borg has struck. Alas. Prepare to be assimilated. (Will FB add my FF subscriptions to my FB friends list?)
- Dennis Jernberg
Boo
- Amit Morson
Now that you guys have $$$ you should swap out the not so very pleasing default avatar!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
BOO! Hiss! Mondays really do suck.
- Dale
Congratulations to all the FriendFeed team. I hope you'll be able to keep the FriendFeed spirit up at Facebook. Kudos for all the great work you've been doing.
- Paul Papadimitriou
Congrats and good luck..
- Can Koklu
Thanks for all the fish. Saving the so long... for now.
- abacab
Goodbye FF, it was wonderful..
- Francesco Cugurra
I use FriendFeed and Facebook so it would be awesome to see FF features in Facebook. Congratulations!
- krzychukula
from IM
judging by the nearly 600 comments as i type this, including my own earlier one, FF could use a Don't Like button as well. or would, if we were going to be using it much longer.
- kelly
Nice, i like to wish you all the best for your new job (and it's really hard, i know). I'm happy, but... don't let die FF!!
- ''Ignobile''
Hope FriendFeed remains open. Love the spirit of FF
- Bernaldo Barrena
Seriously, what a coincidence! Just on Saturday I claimed to be both twitter- and facebook-free. I loved FF product and personally helped to bring at least a dozen of my friends into the community. I'll stick around for a while though.
- ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
This deal makes sense, now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask! Congrats facebook and ff!
- Garin Kilpatrick
I suppose Facebook had to do it, with Twitter and Google Wave as competitor...
- Alexander Kruel
обычные дела. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
Congratulations Friendfeed :D
- paniaguai
Ok. I'll quit friendfeed, so. Goodbye. Ciao
- valerio fiandra
from iPhone
I am noticing a lot of people going to re-esumate their lifestream.fm account now!
- Flavio
I don't think FB acquiring FF is bad. But I don't think it's good either. We'll see. :-) In the meantime, keep up the good work!
- Alexander Gieg
How long until ex-FriendFeed employees start jumping ship from Facebook? I wonder...
- Tyson Key
Thomas Power still believes that Facebook/FF/Linkedin (2010) will be acquired by Apple (2011) and this is a transitional acquisition in the SN market cycle. The world is shifting to Mac, iTunes, iPhones and FB own the next generation. Apple have $29bn of cash on deposit price is not an issue. Google must jump for twitter while MS fiddle in the sticks with Yahoo. BillG will be back at the MS helm 2012.
- Penny Power
:( Happy for FF people, sad for the service. Was going to move from fb to ff this week..
- Martynas
congrats!
- Ronald
thts good!so i can workin both in my Fb online next
- Arini dewi muchtaram
Flavio: never heard of lifestream.fm before, but I'm going to go check it out. I'll reiterate, though, that I'm now shy of any service like this, since it can disappear just as it's getting good. I heard about sweetcron.com last night (via http://ff.im/6pR2w). Maybe it's time to move from centralized to distributed again.
- Don Faulkner
Just finished setting up my lifestream.fm at http://lifestream.fm/dfaulkner. Lifestream does what it says, and no more. FF's search blows lifestream away. FF is more flexible about adding source feeds, but lifestream does fine without the flexibility I suppose. FF still wins, or would, if I thought it would be sticking around. :P
- Don Faulkner
Must See - Hitler blows up over Facebook / FriendFeed - http://friendfeed.com/dffrnt...
- Ahsan Ali
Dave, I'm not happy. That video gave me some much needed comic relief .. after waking up to this news.
- Ahsan Ali
good for you, bad for us
- Zachary Earl Strader
I also hate facebook, not because of their silly quizzes and pokes, but because I suspect they would like to maintain massive user base as the determining factor in choosing a social network. I would love to switch to orkut as I use so many other google services, but I can't because nobody else does. That should not be my criteria.... I thought friendfeed would try to make social networks work together.
- Ru Viljoen
I don't understand why everyone is so negative about the situation?
- orionstarr
@orionstarr - it's like Starbucks buying your neighborhood coffee shop and saying it still cares about the customers. You know it's just not going to be the same as what you've come to love.
- Robin Barooah
Presumably FF will go on the back burner - and the team will try and "fix" Facebook.
- Tim Tyler
sad, sad, sad.
- scott willeke
Congratulations! That's huge. I hope all is well.
- Juan Bruce
bad bad bad
- kakilang
bye bye friendfeed!
- Jonathan Crossland
Why-eee!!! ??? What next?
- Wayne Lewis
I've watched Facebook morph from a relatively organised and well implemented social networking tool into the hulking mess it is now - and I really, really hope that a similar thing doesn't happen here with the inevitable changes this will bring about.
- Leslie Moore
Come on guys, out with the long-term game plan, this is tedious.
- Andrew Eglinton
NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I mean Cool.
- sofarsoShawn <right here>
Teach Facebook how to be FriendFeed. Let the small but fast teach the big but slow. Don't forget what Paul says - don’t be evil.
- whatidiscover
Friendfeed is not as huge as Facebook but you're doing such terrible work on it. Friendfeed is facing so many many problems these days though facebook doesn't seem to have one. Why?
- Sing For Absolution
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- حُسین آفلاین
Never commented on this post. 2.5 years later, from a purely selfish persepective, the best thing that ever happened. It allowed me to drop out of the "Which social network is best", Scobilian crap and get down to the main reason I'm here... to communicate with my friends and share experiences.
- Johnny
Funny. Two years later to the day, Rochelle took me to court to sign our temporary divorce papers. The day after my birthday in both cases. Huzzah!
- Akiva
There's nothing new under the sun.
- Micah
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That's nice. Just random, or in response to something. :)
- τorƍue
Does that mean you got a little sleep?
- Anne Bouey
Good news? People like Paul don't usually get in the office so early especially after a lack of sleep, on a Monday morning, if there wasn't a great reason.
- Louis Gray
this could be big.
- vijay
Aww Man, see now I am not going to get any sleep tonight! DAMN YOU PAUL and your teasing little smiley face. OK, must go and get some coffee!
- travispuk
O.k., I'll smile too :) (and open my ears and eyes)
- Martha
10 bucks says that they add emoticons soon. :)
- Joe Beda
This emoticon makes a little more sense now...
- Stephen Foskett
Guessing this was about the Facebook announcement?
- Ben Hedrington
Cheshire cat?
- Hutch Carpenter
Good for you, Paul. I can't help but feel a little let down, though.
- Matthew Gifford
well done!
- michael sean wright
Congrats! Let us (well, our chef) cook you lunch before you're no longer walking distance! :)
- Don MacAskill
I have the same feeling as Matthew Gifford... Congrats to you, Paul, but I'm not sure this bodes well for the rest of us.
- Lindsay
Congrats, Paul. :-)
- Jordan Hofker
Congratulations!
- Ethan Herdrick
Congratulations to the whole team, Paul!
- Ryan Kuder
yeah they signed away the community :(-
- Peter Dawson
Congrats Paul if they're truely in order :)
- Jason Cronkhite
from iPhone
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- andy brudtkuhl
congrats to the team, but to be honest i'm not liking it at all
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Good news or bad news? :)
- Arda Çetin
Congrats Paul! I was really hoping this would happen. Friendfeed and Facebook need each other. Cheers!
- Akshay Dodeja
Now I get it. Congrats on the $$.
- Yolanda
Now I know...and knowing is half the battle
- Bwana ☠
:(
- TiTi
Congratulations!!!! A 'worthy' smiley ... ;-)
- Bo Stern
I think Paul's emoticon was charming and that Louis Gray is either super discerning or super informed.
- Michael Muller
Congrats to the FF team you guys are awesome (keep this place awesome)
- Ryan
WHAT'VE YOU DONE!!!! THAT'S TOTALLY SH*T!
- Alp B.
congratulations, may your road ahead be smooth...
- Nathan Chase
That can imho only mean good things for the FB UI ...
- Bo Stern
Congratulations, definitely.
- DGentry
congrats!
- Peter Warnock
Congrats to you and the entire FF team. I hope you guys are in it for the long haul.
- Mike Doeff
hey congrats to the FF team! I look forward to seeing what the future holds
- (jeff)isageek
Congratulations Paul & FF team!
- Charles Ying
congrats dude
- Jason Pollock
:(
- Alex Scrivener
Congratulations.
- Antoniu
congratulations.. but liked the whole UI & funtionality of ff than fb!! it'll b gone!!
- Gtp19
You're totally ::stpd::
- Alp B.
its business after all, sell it but get back to make a better product for your old users. dont 4get the users !!
- Peter Dawson
:(
- acedanger
the results of good work
- Juan Pablo Ruiz
congratulations!
- Hareesh Nagarajan
Congrats!
- DS
GZ!
- Sarp
:) we will learn from the process
- abdellah
Paul, will you respond to this? This is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but distracted by Facebook and with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone. Middle of the road: Facebook forces its ads into the timeline and friendfeed starts acting like Facebook by ignoring its users.
- tollie williams
@tollie, I imagine Paul's ability to respond is now constrained, which is just one of the changes we'll see coming. There's new management in town, folks.
- Ken Kennedy
scared!!!
- abdellah
Good luck Paul... it's gonna be a great partnership.
- Andrew
Congrat's Paul. Great news, and I'm really happy for all of you!
- Michael Fidler
Congrats to the whole FriendFeed team!
- John McCrea
Way to go Paul - bet you sleep like a baby tonight whilst Biz and Ev scratch their heads once more!
- Jan Simmonds
Sure congrats to you!!!
- susan mernit
http://friendfeed.com/markzuk...... Hold on! markzukerberg?!?!
- Lora Lufark
Congrats!
- fbrunel
congratulations!
- Loic Le Meur
Congratulations Paul - I am very proud of you... no wonder you couldn't sleep! :) Now we know why! As you know, I am a huge fan of your FriendFeed product. I am very happy for you guys and hope you keep your fabulous culture of innovation going strong. This is really amazing.... nice exit! :)
- Susan Beebe
I have been wishing facebook could get more like Friendfeed :) awesome.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Nice job, Paul and team. Congrats!
- Rob Shillingsburg
many congrat. from UK. ;) @GarethWong
- Gareth
I bet you never forget your anniversary EVER ever now.
- Pete D
boo-urns
- Vezquex
:D
- paniaguai
:-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Congratulations, great for you and the team.
- Rocky
i like the way the deal was done!
- Siddharth Parmar
G.Z.s
- Ugur Akdmr
I have an ALTER TABLE running for nearly 8 days now... yikes.
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There's a menorah for that, right?
- Kevin Fox
@Aaron heh, if only...
- Jeremy Zawodny
I completely missed the SC controversy, for the clueless like me, here it is http://www.wired.com/threatl...
- Shakeel Mahate
Ouch......
- Roberto Bonini
Did you forget to drop indices before doing the alter or something?
- Steve and 3 other people
Truely a LOL moment. Thanks.
- Robert Cooper
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Ahhhhhhhh...
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- Kol Tregaskes
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Why are they all naked?
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Art.
- Kol Tregaskes
18,000 naked people, 17,997 of whom you really do not want to see naked.
- Joe "The Enforcer" Pierce
Like lawn ornaments 1-3 is ok, 4-12 is obsessive/trashy, 1000+ is pure art baby.
- tim
Seems to me "art" is the practice of clothing them. Naked is merely the default state.
- Rob Sterling
LOL Joe, you beat me to it!
- Josh Haley
& Leather Donut was there capturing the whole event for his flickr photo group, he will be posting them here shorty
- sofarsoShawn <right here>
That is way too much ass to see all at once
- Shevonne
CSS should not be used for layout - http://www.flownet.com/ron...
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"The reason this was so easy is that tables have the correct semantics for doing layout. CSS doesn't. When you do layout you want to be have things adjust their sizes and positions based on not only their containers but also on their siblings. When the leftnav content grows you want the center div to grow to compensate, and vice versa. Table cells do this naturally. CSS DIVs do it only under extreme duress, and only by making assumptions about (and thus becoming tightly bound to) their underlying content, which undermines the whole point of CSS."
- Bret Taylor
via Kelly (http://friendfeed.com/kellego...)
- Bret Taylor
Why don't we just fix CSS instead of continuing this stupid war? Both CSS and XHTML have outlived their usefulness. It is time for a new set of technologies the replace these.
- xero
what ya got in mind xero?
- Rob Sellen :o)
The underlying problem is that HTML itself uses the same indistinguishable mechanism for textual markup and formatting as it does layout. CSS didn't stand a chance.
- DeWitt Clinton
For what its worth, and the author didn't address this, is that tables, while presenting the appropriate layout semantics, don't always present content in logical order. People go through great contortions to do layout via divs and CSS partly to address exactly this shortcoming of tables. (But secretly tables are the right way to save yourself much pain...)
- DeWitt Clinton
Using tables assumes there's only one way to view the content: in the layout that the table is defined. But there isn't: mobile devices, screen readers, bots, and others need to view the content in other ways. CSS does stink at defining a layout, but tables aren't the answer: they're just as broken, just for other reasons. Isn't HTML5 supposed to address this deficiency in CSS with semantically defined regions?
- Mark Trapp
I've been working on a new set of specs to replace/update CSS, XHTML, and JavaScript. They add more semantic elements to XHTML, including dedicated layout elements based on what the web has been actively using. The CSS is revamped to work closer to modern WinForms, with docking and expansion built-in. The JS rework is mainly to fix some of the major holes (like DateTime handling) and add non-prototype sugar (like a class keyword). The only debate is whether to separate all layout from "data".
- xero
My position is that in a semantic document, as these pages would be, the layout is part of the semantics as the relative locations of two data points do usually extend to some underlying connection (or lack thereof). I've been opting to put the layout into the data markup. XHTML already does this (div, span, etc), except we have to rely on those greatly overloaded elements to mean: column, article, header, footer, nav, advert, and all sorts of other things. Microformats help, but they are really a band-aid.
- xero
I think seperating layout structure and presentation layer is wise forward thinking. It took me a while to get over the loss of the humble table from the spec - I too consider it perfect for layout control. However, I guess the entire concept behind removing it and relying on floats is because a <TABLE> makes semantic sense "as a table", not a layout, or general way of displaying data. If the CSS spec added the layout goodness of the table, and browsers interpreted this properly, it wouldn't be a problem.
- Mo Kargas
The CSS spec does have the layout goodness of a table being applicable to all block level elements, but the browsers have not implemented it.
- xero
Xero: Exactly. And we won't get it from MS's browser trainwrecks
- Mo Kargas
Gecko and Webkit are just as far behind. I actually wish MS would just adopt one of those two and build IE on top of it. IE8 proves they've lost the technology (and usability) battle, but they're not going to lose out on their marketshare for a while, especially thanks to almost every imaginable enterprise application running exclusively on IE.
- xero
Major like for someone finally having the guts to say that, in a time squeeze, tables will get the job done. In my own work, if the deadline is next week I use CSS; if it's tomorrow, I use tables.
- Sprague D
Meaning it's going to get a lot more annoying for web developers before it gets simpler, simply because the market and technology takes ages to turn around, even without the maddening resistance offered by people like MS
- Mo Kargas
Are we seriously still having this conversation? Tables serve one purpose and one purpose only: to display data. Not generic data as in 1s and 0s that is all computer data. I'm talking numbers-crunching data, e.g., research, comparisons, etc. Tables serve no purpose for display. As such, all we have is CSS. If the deadline is next week, use CSS. If it's tomorrow, use CSS because it's the right thing to do and you owe it to your client. Does it really take "guts" to be lazy?
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
Less zealotry, more productivity. If tables work for you, use them. I promise, your clients won't care one way or the other.
- Sprague D
@Sprague - Basically. Unless minimal markup is a requirement or semantic indexing is a requirement, a table is probably going to work. But by this point, you probably shouldn't have any need to write the basic XHTML/CSS layout, almost everything you could want has been done for you on the web.
- xero
Well, if no one adopts CSS3, perhaps we can just agree on a convention on how to identify tables used to represent true tabular data, and those used purely for layout. Perhaps a class, like class="html5-table-layout" or something. Then it would allow machines to read tables meant for data and recursively ignore content in non-tabular layout tables that are microformat-marked as layout
- Ray Cromwell
I put my hands on a umpteen-years old website laid out in tables. Working on it was like wading through waist-deep mud. There is absolutely no freakin way I'm going back to 1996. Ever. I was doing sites, back then, and it sucked. BAD.
- dario
I was discussing this with a colleague a while ago. He's one of the best programmers I know, and he & I came to the conclusion that almost all advice on "webstandards" is basically cargo cult programming. "It must validate!" Why? "So it will display in every browser" But that doesn't work... "Webstandards. Bow b4 them"
- Nick Lothian
Emacs 101 - http://www.futureone.com/~sponge...
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some useful tidbits in here
- Jeremy Zawodny
Which Sex Positions Are Possible In Space? NASA knows... - http://wiseperception.com/node...
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ha!
- Jeremy Zawodny
"One of the principal findings was that the classic so-called missionary position, which is so easy on earth when gravity pushes one downwards, is simply not possible."
- nikolay
Building Scalable Databases: Pros and Cons of Various Database Sharding Schemes - http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog...
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Google is shutting down Google Notebook, Video, Dodgeball and Jaiku - http://searchengineland.com/google-...
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bummer. i really like Notebook.
- MikeAmundsen
Just in time, as I've just moved all my Google Notebook notes to Evernote.
- Rob H.
Sad about notebook, although I don't know why. I used it for a few hours, said "this is cool, I'll use it all the time," and never used it again.
- Gregory Cohen
I am honestly surprised about Jaiku. I thought Google was going to try some thing with it. You can probably assume that leashes are much shorter these days on these sort of ventures.
- Rolf Schewe
What?? Notebook is one service that is actually useful.
- Morton Fox
Gregory: That's why. :-)
- Brent Newhall
Google is doing everything right lately IMO. Shuttering areas where it doesn't hold a core skill and focusing on things that it does well.
- AJ Kohn
You always use Evernote instead of Notebook and post to the cloud
- Sally Church
@Sally Evernote won't be around in a year or two either, unless they get acquired
- Steve Rubel
Dang, I understand the reasons, but I like Notebook :/
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Gmail is ad supported, clearly invested in and a driver of search. It's sacred. Now how about Google Reader? It doesn't make Google a dime! I wonder what its future is.
- Steve Rubel
@Steve, good point
- Sally Church
It'll be interesting to see. I'm thinking maybe little AdSense boxes at the bottom of every few articles? Or perhaps a side bar like Gmail? Or... maybe they'll just shut it down :(
- David Andrzejewski
I liked Google Notebook. :-(
- ursi
hey what about Grand Central?!
- Susan Beebe
not notebook!
- Yolanda
dammit...I used Notebook as much as I did Reader! What other free alternatives are there?
- JA Castillo
@JA Gmail. Check out my nerve center series.
- Steve Rubel
@Steve Sounds like it. But why bother living in something that's not loved.
- Steve Rubel
Shutting down video? Not nice, there are videos that people link to.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
So that will be one less option for Surfulator users that don't feel like paying for an upgrade.
- April
it's not shutting down Jaiku though, that will stay around...going open source
- Zee.
Steve why do u say that about Evernote? About it not being around in the future?
- Zee.
Zee, do you have a reference for that ? I see secondary sources saying things about Jaiku, but can't find anything official.
- Michael C. Harris
Ah, Zee is correct re Jaiku, http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2009.... It's not closing.
- Michael C. Harris
@Zee, money.
- Steve Rubel
Michael, I'm on my iPhone but click the link in this post through to the official google post about Jaiku
- Zee.
@Steve Rubel, Evernote just got a good round of funding, and has footholds in a lot more platforms than Google Notebook. I will be surprised if they don't keep growing, especially when people have finally realized their name is a misnomer for what they actually do.
- Lindsay
@Lindsay, Evernote will be acquired. That's my bet
- Steve Rubel
Evernote also has paying customers. I don't know how many, but I know that I happily paid.
- Joey Gibson
I hope they're not, Steve, or if they are, it's not by Google. I would be heartbroken if it languished and died the way almost all the other things I like that they've bought have. @Joey, I paid for my subscription and bought 2 gift subs for people for Christmas gifts... and turned Tad onto getting a paid sub too. They have a pretty loyal following and their services are worth paying for.
- Lindsay
Shocking news! I really love Notebook; am using it extensively to prevent information-overload..
- Winston Teo
Jaiku was always doomed without the SMS short code. But I really liked notebook.
- Chris Mayer
we haven't got SMS for Twitter here in the UK though Chris...and it's growing ridiculously fast here
- Zee.
SMS to Jaiku was working just fine last time I tried.
- Michael C. Harris
At least they're going to keep Notebook active ... they're just stopping development.
- Brandon
Not Notebook, damnit! What am I supposed to do with my Notebook stuff now? :(
- Tanath
And indeed still does work. Perhaps "SMS short code" means something else ?
- Michael C. Harris
@Tanath Best I could find was to export to Google Docs. You have to do it for each notebook and it creates a single Gdoc with all of the items in that notebook.
- Warren Butler
Notebook was (is?) really good but needed offline access. E.g using Gears.
- Warren Butler
didn't think jaiku would last that long. twitter is far superior
- Alex Carpenter
I wrote off Jaiku months ago. And after Evernote, Google Notebook paled in comparison.
- Phil Glockner
I really like Google Notebook :(
- Jennifer Van Grove
Have you tried Evernote, Jennifer? It's really good.
- Phil Glockner
Phil, yeah I've tried Evernote...even have the iPhone app...but Google Notebook was a great fit for me...more than a little bummed
- Jennifer Van Grove
No big surprises here. Sad to see Jaiku go. It was good having a competitor to Twitter. Keeps the game fun. RIP Jaiku
- Sloan Bowman
Looks like Jaiku is going open-source. In which case it might rise to be even bigger than before. And as for Evernote - hey they have a pretty good revenue model. They're here to stay.
- Leo Laporte
so my theory that Jaiku has been bought as missing ready-made geo-data (BTS coordinates) for Google Mobile Search seems more or less plausible by now.
- Отборнейший бред
google notebook is awesome! why discontinue that?
- Kelly Johns
Notebook seems particularly suited to their mission statement. It ought to be improved, not discontinued.
- Tanath
I'm disappointed by the drop kicking of Notebook. You spend the time tagging entries with meta data, then poof, you have to deal with converting it into another system/workflow. I just did "Export to Google Docs" as an escape hatch move, but it's not the tool to gather new clippings entries.
- Micah
Ugh, I have quite a lot of stuff in Notebook.
- jjprojects
i was just tryin' to get into it :-)
- mirko
I'll miss Google Video
- Marcos Marado
Times are hard
- Marcus Beagley
Notebook is the big one for me, I use it all the time for particular projects. Anyone suggest an alternative?
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
oh bummer, I love Google Notebook. I use it all the time
- Imabug
Zoho seems like a good alternative. Still wish Google would keep Notebook though.
- Tanath
Hard Work and Practice in Programming - http://radar.oreilly.com/2008...
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Wow, quite a read! But that was certainly inspirational, maybe I should learn a new language.. objective-c is tempting.
- Scott
Interesting excerpt "One aspect of practice that is really important that I think is worth mentioning is that most true creativity comes from people who have done a lot of work in their field. (See Explaining Creativity by Sawyer and On Intelligence by Hawkins). Most of that work is "practice" - getting to a level of expertise so that we can think more abstractly about whatever the...
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- Rob Hoeting
K. Anders Ericsson has done a lot of fairly controversial research on this topic and he points out that it's not just about practice. It has to be the right kind of practice. He called this "deliberate practice" meaning it's guided, challengng, goal-oriented and measurable
- Adewale Oshineye
Thought for the morning: Every 10 days Facebook grows a Twitter.
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How so? Numbers? or what?
- Cheryl Smith
FB is adding 5 million users every 10 days?!
- Matt Hooper
Facebook is adding 600,000 people a day. Twitter is rumored to be about 6 million users.
- Robert Scoble
And every second Twitter grows my blog.
- Håkan Dahlström
users??
- Francisco Kemeny
Does each of those growth segments matter as much as Twitter though? I think not. But it gives an interesting perspective.
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
You mean they're adding "small countries" every 10 days ;)
- Dana Fosburgh
Twitter is for bloggers (@ this time...). Facebook is for people. Why? Most people will never have a blog. And that's okay!
- Catholic Meme
how many of the users twitter users that join are real people and not spammers. & the same with facebook.
- James Bayliss
Twitter is for bloggers? Nah, I don't think that's true. Many people use it via mobile for simple communications. Some of them have no clue about this whole blog thing.
- Rahsheen the Dream
WOW those growth stats are mind numbing....impressive!!!
- Susan Beebe
I can see this happening. Some of my friends and family that a few years ago I never imagined would even get internet access, much less join a social network are now signing up for Facebook. This includes the ones that are concerned with privacy.
- Allen Blair
Twitter is for everybody. Facebook and blogs aren't. <-- the secret to Twitter's success!
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
My husband was talking with his 70+ yo mom last night about FB. Her sister is on, updating status and playing scrabble. It's a great way to keep family members engaged, in addition to the many business applications.
- Cheryl Smith
More and more of the "normal" people I know in real life are joining FB. None of them have ever heard of Twitter.
- Andy Roth
6 Million users a day? You have got to be kidding? That is not per month?
- Darin aka iGoByDoc
Meh. Short term statistics are nice, but especially when talking about growth you need to consider product life-cycles and exogenous trend-changing events.
- David Wynn
from fftogo
One Twitter = 100 Identi.Ca?
- David Parmet
from twhirl
all the more amazing given Facebook has 140 million subscribers. They're growing into the non-techie Mainstream now.
- Pete Steege
Facebook usually talks in terms of active users (users who have returned to the site in the last 30 days). And keep in mind, there is almost nothing t do on facebook unless you are regeistered. That helps explain why in the past, their active user numbers have been pretty close to comscore's estimates of their monthly uniques.
- Erik S
People's myopia is funny. The techie crowd was never a hugely important audience for Facebook (or even myspace). Both really caght fire by appealing to a generation who grew up with the Net. Probably 90% of the entering class of my alma mater was on Facebook before even a quarter of my techie friends were. That myopia may also cause people to miss progress of techie darlings into the mainstream. Google insights suggests that interest in Twitter has spread well beyond typical tech centers in the past year
- Erik S
I think that line is from "It's A Wonderful Life".
- Kevin Leroux
Are "twitters" contagious? Will I get one if I share a drink on Facebook?
- Marla
Facebook is such as hugely different crowd for me-- even diff't than linkedIn too. I mix it all together, but one needs to be in more than one place these days
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
I find very few techies on FB. It is way more social and a lot less network, too "cutesy" than ever with little icons and way too much trivia to wade through. Broadcast vs.cable, again.
- Phil Boiarski
I would love to see a visualization of the data over time. Based on the 600K per day, they have added the entire population of New York City and Philadelphia in December.
- Rob Diana
Soon Facebook will have to sponsor a breeding program to keep their growth rate up. As a stick they can say have 3 babies or we'll suspend your account. As a carrot, well that doesn't seem necessary.
- Todd Hoff
Its still WAY cleaner than the MySpace nightmare zone!
- Eric Rost
Echo'ing Erik & Phil. My techie college friends are barely on FB...
- Mitchell Tsai
imo, Twitter will surpass Facebook over time in number of active users. Eventually it will be the preferred social networking platform that people will use as a starting point to other svcs. The former is simple as google and allows much more opportunities to engage w/people from all stripes vs the latter..
- Lee Hsieh
Thanks FF and Twitter! Here are the top 10 Mobile Web Products of 2008 according to RWW - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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A little bird told me that Facebook now has 140 million users and that revenue is higher than most blogs have reported.
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Is FB worth $10 per user?
- Tinfoil 2.0
LOL @ James...
- Dennis Goedegebuure
Revenue higher than reported, as in, profitable? Or just not losing as much?
- Tom Ribbens
Logical: a lot more than $10.
- Robert Scoble
LogicalExtremes: I say yes simply because I can explain its value to my mom.
- trextor
The bird told me he has a Twitter account but rarely uses it to Tweet, though.
- Robert Scoble
Tom: the bird wouldn't tell me that.
- Robert Scoble
Watch the 140 million run screaming as they realise lawyers might start issuing summonses against them on FB: http://www.theage.com.au/nationa...
- mattpovey
Robert how much higher is the revenue???
- Susan Beebe
mattpovey - As someone who libels and assaults frequently... that scares me!
- Andrew
Susan: the bird wouldn't discuss numbers other than to say all estimates he has seen are low.
- Robert Scoble
great news. they've really captured the way people communicate quiet effectively.
- Rahul Krishnakumar
I just can't make myself like Facebook. In part I think it's not really wanting to keep up with old friends. Don't get me started on the stupid apps and the layout.
- BEX
Facebook is really growing in my neck of the woods...TONS of co-workers have jumped on FB now... all happening VERY fast. Transparency is the new reality. I get folks calling me from work asking how all this "social" sh*t works... LOL pretty shocked n00bies!
- Susan Beebe
I wonder if the progression remains "neopets" --> "myspace" --> "facebook" .. both my daughters went through these three distinct stages. IRC was in there for a bit; followed by forums and blogs; and now they just IM
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It is amazing how many customers now you directly communicate with on a daily basis through SMS, twitter and facebook.
- Shaun Haney
Most blogs report $150 m? I would put it between 200-300 M based on back of envelope calculations that assume a low RPM
- Bindu Reddy
Who told you? I am guessing someone from Facebook. They get a bad story, they "leak" to you it's not true, you post it. People believe you. Why don't they just people what they make if they care. Posting like this make you look like a shill.
- Michael Stearne
i never pay a attention to the adv on FB right slider.so the revenue i think should be lower than most blogs have reported:D
- jedorstar
http://www.facebook.com/press... has the user number (140M)
- Ashwin Bharambe
If I could pay ten bucks to insta-ban all annoying app requests and pathetic ads, and more options for designing my front page, I'd go for it...
- Terry O'Fee
When this is anything more than unsubstantiated rumor, I'm sure they'll be happy to put their cards on the table.
- Sam
My forecaster's "sell" order stands. Or, buy puts, your choice. AOL didn't die in a day, either; in fact, it took one of the greatest value dumps of all time, directly upon the heads of Time Warner shareholders. Please, of course I know it's not public, I'm talking Cred Trend Puts. I can't imagine a single reason for the web needing FB by 2012; it was a cute start to socially stuff and MySpace UI cleanup, but the vast majority of The Normals will use it as a Social Registry and virtually never log in again.
- michael silverton
A revenue of $10 per user per year is achievable - advertising + premium vanity features ought to do it.
- Iphigenie
As to longevity, I don't know - i dislike all the fluff in FB, apps and games, but I can see it growing into a living family tree - our parents are joining, our children are joining, and I now have a whole multi generational network including my parents' friends, my friends' parents - you get this whole "village" of real connections if you use it that way, quite warming when like you have moved countries a bit, and the value could grow. A grounding space in a increasingly disconnected and virtual world.
- Iphigenie
@scoble: A lot more than 10$ per user? 1.4+ billion in revenues? Is that whtat we're talking about, or was it just what it worths?
- Martino Sabia
Martini I don't know the numbers. I thought I was being asked the value of each user.
- Robert Scoble
there have been stories on FF lately about how poorly ads do on social networking services compared to search advertising. Does anybody have different reports or experiences?
- Davide D'Incau
Doesn't surprise me, more friends of mine are joining it by the day.
- Ed Richardson
incentive ads perform poorly on a CPA basis; conversions occur for the wrong reason and have a high cancellation rate.
- Peter Warnock
It seems to me that FB is more embraceable for low tech people than Twitter
- Craig Mische
It's the apps, after the newness wears offs or the advertisers push back, FB will have to do some real marketing. They have a gold mine of data that they're not using.
- Peter Warnock
Twitter has made Dell $1 million in revenue http://venturebeat.com/2008...
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And the other bloggers want to sell posts for $500? Dell made a million with Twitter!!!!
- Robert Scoble
But... Robert, $500 is a greater share of most bloggers' annual income than $1 million is of Dell's income...
- Louis Gray
Josh: you don't get it. Everyone is in the same boat here. If we all sell our souls and our editorial streams no one will make anything cause no one will trust anyone. I'm trying to get the small audience blogs paid too, but a living wage.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, there are areas of the country where $500 a week is a very livable wage for a single person.
- FFing Enigma
Wow, these numbers are staggering.. alright... I think I need a new job
- Susan Beebe
I totally understand Robert's angle here. I have a client that tries to play me off against another guy, that always underprices himself, both in time, and hourly rates and estimates, and then works for free when he (invariably) takes longer than he said he would.
- Ian May
Tina: and there are places in the world where $400 is a monthly salary. So? What does that have to do with trying to get people to see the value they have in front of them? Again, look at the Demo Conference. They could give that away for $500 too. But they don't, and they created dozens of jobs with that.
- Robert Scoble
Part of my point, Robert, is that those of us in the $500 a week and $400 a month parts of the world weren't at the Demo conference. Moreover, had it been held in the $500 a week/$400 a month part of the world, with those of us who live here as speakers, do you really think anyone would have paid $1500 a seat to attend? Why should someone in South Carolina or Zimbabwe charge Robert Scoble rates when they don't live in your economy?
- FFing Enigma
Tina: the cost that something has to produce has no influence on its value. Especially in this global world.
- Robert Scoble
Very good point. With that view (that what you pay for something doesn't always indicate its value), why should someone charge more than $500 for a post if that's a generous rate where they live?
- FFing Enigma
Tina: because they could have hired four of their countrymen if they had charged $2,000 for it and started a competitor to Huffington Post.
- Robert Scoble
An Apple Power Supply only costs a few dollars to make in China, yet it sells for $75 in the stores. If Steve Jobs listened to you he'd sell it for $10 because that's all the Chinese needed.
- Robert Scoble
Given your example above, Steve Jobs could have opted to produce a power supply that cost $20 to make in the US and hired several of his countrymen at an Apple plant. Instead, he opted to give the job to the lowest bidding contractor.
- FFing Enigma
Ooh...$500 for an article...maybe I should get my brain limbered up by writing about my latest purchase from ScotEVest.
- a runcible MiniMage
This is pretty amazing. Nice being able to put actual $ amounts related to Twitter's use...
- Charlie Ramirez
Not sure why this devolved into a conversation about incomes and profit margins, but I think the bigger picture is Dell jumping on a hot marketing opportunity and making the most of it. And if they happen to pass me some good info in the process, more power to them.
- John Denver
With annual revenue of $61 billion (annual), isn't the real question why did Dell only make $1M via Twitter (18 months).
- Mike Reynolds
Mike, that's what I was saying. A small drop in a big bucket.
- Louis Gray
Facebook Connect Coming To Twitter - http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008...
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"Soon, anyone with a Facebook account will soon be able to use it as login for micro-blogging service Twitter, we've learned. That's because Twitter is at this very moment working on an integration with Facebook Connect -- the service that allows Facebook members to login to third-party Web sites using their Facebook account."
- Anthony Farrior
from Bookmarklet
Whoa!
- Anthony Farrior
Yikes! Twitbook? Fwitter?
- Bill Sodeman
More like FaceBitter ,lol
- Anthony Farrior
I wish they were more specific about what they meant by "integration". Authentication? or just inviting your Facebook friends to join Twitter?
- Daniel Sims
LOL @Anthony's FaceBitter - that may be the case indeed.
- Ben Watson
from twhirl
All of this social media connect stuff is making me swimmy-headed like
- Susan Beebe
I put a Google Connect Widget on a web site of mine, but I don't know what for. If you log in, it's not going to make any difference that I see.
- Ian May
@Daniel very good comment -- it's not so much integration, but more like convenience
- Jorge Escobar
#leweb startup highlights: http://popego.com/ looks at your Twitter and other social networking behavior and tells you stuff about it.
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Nice !!!
- Jose Villar
got an account, liking it so far.
- ernie yacub
sorry, didn't get it at all
- Jorge Escobar
Bill Clementson's Blog: Understanding SLIME (Using Emacs and Lisp Cooperatively) - http://bc.tech.coop/blog...
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Producteev Launches Group Task Management App At LeWeb (500 Invites) - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
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Looks pretty interesting. I still think there is a lot of opportunity for simple project/team collaboration.
- Patrick Lightbody
HOW TO: Use Google Reader Like A Rockstar - http://mashable.com/2008...
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"Google Reader recently got a facelift; with a fresh look and features, a lot of people are buzzing about the service. Knowing that new users are signing up and veterans are looking for some ideas to make their experience even better, we have put together a quick how-to that should offer something for everyone."
- ~C4Chaos
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Odd that he glosses over the sharing function: it's what makes Google Reader more valuable than any other RSS reader.
- Mark Trapp
10 Tips To Get Your Startup Noticed. - http://marketingstartups.com/2008...
Bill Romanos, Parthasarathi, Kelly Johns and 9 other people liked this
This was great thanks! I'm starting my business as we speak and it had some great tips.
- Adriana
Great article, i can always use tips on helping getting http://edmodo.com noticed more.
- Jeff
I am working with a startup right now. Sending this to CEO now.
- Amani
Great tip about text. But it's not just Flash, but PDF and images, too. If bloggers or journalists can't easily copy and paste your story, you're not getting covered easily.
- Dominic Jones
EXCLUSIVE: Facebook is turning on HD video. Watch the video at http://www.fastcompany.tv -- you heard it here first!
Javier Godoy, Justin Wah Kan, Bertrand Doux and 40 other people liked this
Video of Chris Putnam here. He runs Facebook's video team: http://www.fastcompany.tv/video...
- Robert Scoble
Nice!!!!
- drew olanoff
720 P HD video now on Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
16:9 goodness.
- Robert Scoble
Also, videos are now embeddable on your own blog!
- Robert Scoble
Why is this important? Any user generated videos will likely be cell-phone quality. Enlighten me!
- Will Higgins™
Nice one Robert!
- Evan
If cellphone photos are any sign, HD cellphone video isn't that far off.
- Kevin Fox
watching now. looks cool
- Scott Sorheim
Like Winer said, it's all just about the feature fight. YAWN!
- Stephen Pierzchala
f ya! their video product has been so poor. wonder if we can see video views now?!?!
- sean percival
Wait a minute. This one is actually a feature that people care about. If Scoble likes it that's a clue.
- Dave Winer
I wonder when/if they will increase the quality of the photos that are uploaded
- Brian Sloane
Will: Because many new camcorders do HD video. Also, SmugMug and Vimeo had HD first and should get credit.
- Robert Scoble
When they talk about a Battle For Mindshare -- that's the BS. http://bit.ly/ul49
- Dave Winer
Brian: the quality should start going up soon. Especially if you uploaded 720P stock.
- Robert Scoble
At last a great use for my Kodak Zi6. Huge difference from my old Flip.
- Christine Dattilo
NEWS FLASH! Winer and Scoble agree! Skating now open on Crystal Spring Resevoir! But I guess I would have to be a bigger video creator/user to really care that deeply.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Do I get stats on my videos yet?
- drew olanoff
impressive picture quality.
- john conroy
I don't think I've seen anyone use the facebook video on my list. I think youtube should get off their arses and do something similar, though.
- Terry O'Fee
This is probably very naive, but I just don't understand how companies can handle storage for media like this. Millions of users (I know only a fraction will) upload HD quality video. I don't get it. And I just got my customized Flip Mino (decided no HD because of file size). http://twitpic.com/qghk
- Leif Hansen
@drew thats what im saying, video hosting with stats is worthless to content producers and ego maniacs!
- sean percival
Now I really need to go to the beauty parlor instead of the barber! Google Connect/FB Connect YTube HD/FB HD. The big guys know recession means sharp elbows in the paint!
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
this guys hair was SOOOO made for HD
- sean percival
I like Vimeo a lot. No one uploads any video to Facebook. I've seen 1 video from my friends on Facebook. Posting video from other sites though, that's becoming more common. Too bad the only videos posted are SNL sketches.
- Will Higgins™
Actually I heard it on Twitter first. :D :D :P
- Bwana ☠
interesting how the story appears to be only on scobles blog and techcrunch hmm
- Allen Stern
Yup, I wasn't actually the only one with the news here. I have the only video. This is the first time I've agreed to a nondeterminant exclusive. We only knew a few minutes ago that the news would go out now. Rocky woke me up in London to get the news posted.
- Robert Scoble
This one is a yawner for me. Youtube going HD was much more significant.
- Bwana ☠
hahah. facebook is good to link for other services...
- Terry O'Fee
Now Robert, I thought Facebook had kicked you off their platform a while back. Oh, but they let you back I see...
- Leif Hansen
not what i meant robert - more that it seemed like more usual outlets would have the news as well - i have never received facebook news but wondering why the other valley bloggos dont have it... as bwana notes, not really a huge deal - especially since we know facebook has no idea how to monetize (see my post yesterday)
- Allen Stern
Allen: it's because of the weird embargo. I had to agree to hold the news until they told us we could talk. Most news people wouldn't agree to that. Also, Facebook didn't want news to leak so they went with only a few people they had personal relationships with. I've known Chris Putnam since he was 16, so that's why I was included.
- Robert Scoble
Bwana: I agree that YouTube getting HD is more significant, but this is pretty major too. Also, Facebook lets you upload 20 minutes. YouTube only 10.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert for the explanation
- Allen Stern
you also need to log in to see facebook content. not such a big deal these days but youtube links you can just click on no matter which computer you are on...
- Terry O'Fee
Terry: that is not true anymore. If videos on Facebook are shared with everyone you do not need to log in to see them anymore.
- Robert Scoble
this is so cool. add video chat capability, live streaming video, and this thing might get as big or bigger than youtube, considering the huge userbase facebook has.
- Rahul Krishnakumar
well, that's handy then. good to know. having the option to just click on a link and instantly watching the vid is alright by me.
- Terry O'Fee
I don't see it as major because Facebook's video community is virtually non-existent. Had they opened up video to non-Facebook users a year ago and THEN added HD today, it may be different. There's a ton of competition in this field, and it's a steep hill to climb. I will be very surprised if we're even talking about Facebook HD video 3 months from now.
- Bwana ☠
Lots of our customers are beta testing our 1080p video support - http://twurl.nl/e4kxby - so make sure to holler if you want your SmugMug account beta enabled. (I'd guess we're only a few days away from enabling it for all our Pros - but you can still play with it first)
- Don MacAskill
(That message was for anyone - not [just] Robert)
- Don MacAskill
Are they upscaling (or something) SD content to 720p? Every video I watch has an option to "View in Regular Quality" regardless of the source.
- Robert Yocum
Robert: if you upload a video with 720p then it does NOT upscale. If you upload lower quality, though, it does. Don: you guys rock. I so want a new Canon 5D.
- Robert Scoble
Robert It seems YouTube has three view qualities now, but only offers two choices per video. If the source is not uploaded in HD you get a choice of "normal" or "high." But if the source is HD (720p) you get a choice of "normal" or "HD"
- Michael Markman
Lowest cost route into making HD videos: the Flip Mino HD. (street ~$200) They're going to get a nice fat sales bump
- Michael Markman
@eargang Python 3 is the way to pain right now, I would suggest brushing up on 2.6 first.
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Friendfeed is my new Orkut - http://socmedswim.blogspot.com/2008...
Augusto Becciu, Peter Hoffmann, Atul Arora and 3 other people liked this
I have seen the future of jQuery and it is the past: http://www.outstandingelephant.com/jcquard...
Augusto Becciu, DeWitt Clinton, Shakeel Mahate and 2 other people liked this
Have you ever seen such a well cabled datacenter? ;)
Niv, Bryan Tsai, Lode Nachtergaele and 77 other people liked this
Whoa, where is that?
- Rob Hoeting
The original Google datacenter in '99 :)
- Paul Buchheit
One of the consequences of factoring in component failure in your every move: you can save the cases, stuff's going to break anyway ;)
- Mustafa K. Isik
This design turned out to be somewhat nightmarish. It was eventually cleaned up (we had a "cabling fest") and by now the designs are quite slick, though still very unconventional. I wish Google would publish more about their hardware, because it's very interesting.
- Paul Buchheit
i have! it was even color coded, cables of different colors
- Iphigenie
WHEN CABLES GO BAD! I used to have a similar problem and the only way to trace cables was to put a small binder clip over the wire and push it along.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Cables Gone Wild! woo hoo! gees that is bad. Paul YES I too wish Google published their IT Infrastructure / hardware info
- Susan Beebe
pretty sure their current IT infrastructure involves genetically-modified human brains soaking in some kind of nutrient bath.
- Karim
BTW, I believe this is the same generation of hardware found in the Computer History Museum (they have the jj rack, as I recall).
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: I've been inside a Google datacenter. They are a thing of beauty now. I've always wanted to interview the team that is responsible for doing those and get some video.
- Robert Scoble
That's how it would look if it was set up at my house.
- Gabe
I worked in a server room that look like that too - all those spagetti cabling craziness.
- imabonehead
Robert - YES do video interview with Google DC Infrastructure brains! :)
- Susan Beebe
How long would it take to fix if you pulled out just one cable?Or plugged it into the wrong socket?
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
I've seen worse, much owrse
- Amit Morson
Spaghetti anyone?
- Håkan Dahlström
Here are some pics of a datacenter I put together for a client back in 2003 with some pretty insane cabling. With this much cabling, it was too hard to manage without automation. So I built some tools that allowed me to plan for rapid growth (i.e 20 server SAN jumped to 120+ while we were building out) http://bit.ly/9Q7O
- jho
Grunt: OK boss, I've got a new cable crimped. Where do you want it? Boss: Server 99,9999 port 1. See it? I'll see you in a week. Grunt: &^*
- Shane
"Employees dismantling sections of Google's original data center discovered the decaying corpse of an engineer tangled in a web of network patch cables, police reported today. The mostly-skeletal remains have not been conclusively identified, though the victim appeared to have been wearing a 'Banyan Vines' t-shirt. While forensic tests have yet to be completed, the County Medical Examiner has estimated the date of death to be 'sometime around the 1999, 2000 timeframe.'"
- Karim
"A police spokeperson said foul play was not suspected, adding, 'Unfortunately, this is not the first time we've seen this. The Internet was growing so rapidly back then, these things just happened. Someone goes in to work on a patch panel, and they get tangled up. It's sad. And I don't blame Google for not noticing -- their headcount was growing rapidly too. One or two engineers go missing, nobody notices. I bet the poor bastard is still getting direct deposit on his paychecks.'"
- Karim
A spokesperson for Google referred to the grisly discovery as "a regrettable loss, but not a single point of failure," and added that engineers are currently required to use "the buddy system" to work in pairs when cabling servers.
- Karim
Karim, you owe me a keyboard sir!
- FFing Enigma
Looks like spaghetti.
- Rochelle
I've seen worse. Karim, that was funny! :D
- AJ Batac \(o_o)/
We'd like to see FriendFeed's datacenter pics!
- AJ Batac \(o_o)/
Datacenter is the new black
- Burak Arikan
Most datacenters I've ever been in don't allow photography. The exception was the Stanford Linear Accelerator data center that Scoble got me into: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Thomas Hawk
AJ, we're trying to avoid spending too much money, so our datacenter pictures would be a lot less interesting than Google's. Here's a photo of one of our servers though: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Paul Buchheit
One of the walls (supposedly the one they began with) at eBay's datacenter in Sunnyvale looked very much the same about 5 years ago.
- earlyadopter
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