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Georges Harik
I got the Kindle 2. I think I'd be much happier with a macbook air with a longer battery life. g
That is sort of my feeling after getting one. I like it a lot, but I am not sold on e-ink and awkward interface yet. Maybe I need to use it on the beach or something to appreciate it more. - Bret Taylor
if only the macbook air cost $329 :) - Private Sanjeev
the 4-way cursor is a lot more awkward than a touchscreen. and their whole interface seems not as good as a web browser. I'm going to use it but primarily because the battery is so long lasting - Georges Harik
although buying books on amazon store for it supereasy - Georges Harik
The e-ink display causes me less eye strain than a laptop. Still, I wish it had a higher dpi since the letters seem a bit fuzzy at the edges. And, for some reason, I still instinctively want to press the screen. - Simon
yeah I'm going to get the iphone app, that's pretty cool - Georges Harik
you don't really learn to appreciate it until you read several long form pieces -- books, for example. i *love* mine after a year -- can't live without it. completely different than reading on a laptop or iphone. much easier for longer use. interface is a work in progress -- i think touch will be a bit of a problem, though - fingerprints will be brutal. - John Lilly
aren't there smudge free screens? - Georges Harik
if you have one, you should let me know. i feel like i've got this weird nervous twitch cleaning my iphone screen all the time. - John Lilly
Just took a 4 hour flight, Kindle was great on the flight, almost no power usage. Also buying using a laptop and having book delivered to Kindle is great. - Georges Harik
Thomas Hawk
10 Reasons Why You Should Sign Up for FriendFeed - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
10 Reasons Why You Should Sign Up for FriendFeed
I wish there was a AIR client for FF though. - barl0w
Twhirl works well for FF and it's an AIR client. - Bob M. Montgomery from twhirl
Great article. I want to learn more about the dumping the RSS feeder part. You should share some tips with that. Good stuff. - Amani
Love seeing FF through the eyes of someone who's not a traditional techie =) - FFing Enigma
Thanks Bob! - barl0w
A big part of why I wrote this post and have it running in my number one photo spot on Flickr right now is because I want more of my photography friends to sign up for the service. I *love* seeing photos here on FriendFeed and there are so many talented photographers who are not here yet who need to be. If we can get more of them to sign up, you guys will love their work. Of course there are many great photographers already on here but still a lot more who could join. - Thomas Hawk
I had to re-share this with all my FB friends. :) - Kelly W.
Still trying to figure out this whole friendfeed experience. I've had the account for a while and see lots of my twitter friends posting via ff - Demetri Mouratis
great piece! - mashable
Hi Demetri =) Different people use FF different ways because they want to get different things out of it. What are you hoping to get out of it? - FFing Enigma
Thanks for the tip. I had FF but really never 'got' what it was for. This helped! - Molly Nichelson from twhirl
Nice post Thomas. - Paul Wade
TH - for those photographers that are not on here, I put their flickr id into my Flickr Imaginary friend and see their images that way. However, it would be nice to get more photographers on here with their reader shares and such... - Justin Korn
This is definitely the best "Why Friendfeed" post I've seen. - Nick in Manila
Justin, agreed. I have a bunch of imaginary friend accounts for Flickr/Zooomr users as well. But it is nicer when they actually have accounts here, their work can be liked and commented to the larger FF community, etc. It seems like a few new people signed up today based on this post so I'm happy for that. Thanks Nick! - Thomas Hawk
I have AlertThingy FriendFeed Edition as well as AlertThingy v2 - Outsanity
Well said, Thomas. :) - Josh Haley
Nice list of reasons, all well thought out. While I'm at it, I wanted to tell you that I really like your new blog design too. - Karoli
Do most folks use FF in Standard or Real-time view mode? - Scott Loftesness
Only ever real-time.. it sits nicely on the second monitor as a Chrome App. - Greg Gannicott
Realtime here... - Chris Gulker
Did you just reformatted your post, Thomas? It a lot easier to scan through now. - Alan Le
Alan, a lot of times I post first and edit later. I probably shouldn't do that, but yeah, after posting I broke up some of the paragraphs better, bolded a few things etc., to make it easier to read. - Thomas Hawk
That's great. Make sure to check out Windows Live Writer for formatting blog posts if you haven't already yet. By the way, I love the new blog design. It's much better than when I helped you with the html way back. http://thomashawk.com/2006... - Alan Le
Y'know... I must've spent two months randomly Tweeting things like "Will someone PLEASE explain to me why I should be using FriendFeed?" ... And then two days ago I start using my account (I'd had one for a while)... and NOW someone finally makes a post outlining why I should be here. You're two days late, Mr. Hawk, two days late. :P - Lou
actually, there's no search for Russian word forms on Frf. For me that looks as if there's no search at all - orie
hmmm.. I didn't know that orie. It seems like there is a lot of international users on FF, that's surprising to me. - Thomas Hawk
I've been trying to make sense of FF for months now, but every time I come away confused. As it is I feel like I'm drowning under all the social networking sites available. I use Twitter, Plurk and Facebook the most, and I use Ping.fm so I only have to post status updates once. How can I integrate FF into this without making things even more confusing? - Chris Taylor
oooh! I found the zooomr version of this post with no formatting and I whined somewhere else in my FF feed. This one with all the formatting is better :D - Tamar Weinberg
I really liked how you did a post on Flicker - MaryAnn Chick Whiteside
All good reasons but #10 is my #1 reason :) - Mark Krynsky
Mark - agreed. Also, Thomas ... very nice blog. I like. - Amani
@Tamar, the unformated text was a problem on the Zooomr image. Kristopher's fixed that bug now so text in descriptions on Zooomr photos should format correctly now. - Thomas Hawk
I wasn't using FF, but signed up after your post. Now let's see if it is really so useful ;-) - Marcel Körner
@Marcel also take into consideration who you are subscribed to. Aside from maybe four on your current sub list, they are not very active at all on FF. This will affect your experience here. - Carlos Ayala
Didn't know there was a "Porn" room on FF (see screenshot)... - David Young
how did you see that they are not active on FF? - Marcel Körner
David, the "porn" room on FriendFeed isn't all that active actually. I'm not really interested in porn per se, just thought it was a good group name to claim in the great FriendFeed land group name grab of 2008. - Thomas Hawk
@Marcel by their numbers, and the fact that i know most of them and can tell you first hand that they are not. (if you hover over people's names you will see their numbers) - Carlos Ayala
still hard to beat 5 years on for speed - Thomas Power
So true Thomas: people still can't as a majority read dynamic feeds. - Zu from AOD
it gives you an easy key to the way back machine - chaz2b
Sarah Perez
The Next Social Networks Will Be Powered By WordPress and Movable Type - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
The Next Social Networks Will Be Powered By WordPress and Movable Type
doubtful - Jason Carreira
I'm still wondering why no one ever talks about Elgg when it comes to creating a niche social network site. - FFing Enigma
Good call on the disparate social graphs. - Hao Chen
Agreed... building a social network right now built on WordPress for our local twitter community -> http://dmtweetup.org - andy brudtkuhl
@Stupid Blogger - Elgg is pretty cool - andy brudtkuhl
Elgg classic was very good, now elgg one is much better. And it was a software intended for social nets, not a converted =) - Arturo Servin from twhirl
Andy Peatling will be talking about BuddyPress (WP-based social network project) at WordCamp SF on Saturday... good timing. - Mark Jaquith from twhirl
It will be interesting to see if BuddyPress can compete in the enterprise social networking space. - Nick Martin
bolog and ne - adolfo foronda
Sarah, I didn't know about the Action Streams plugin, but I liked DavidRecordon website so much that I did my own c# script to generate something like that. http://www.alexsauceda.com - Alex Sauceda
For those of you mentioning Elgg, you may enjoy this older post where RWW interviewed the Elgg founders: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... - Sarah Perez
Thank you very much for such a good article. I just build a new website and build up my own social network too. - Kenn Nguyen
Thank you very much for such a good article. I just build a new website and build up my own social network too. I'm the founder of http://wweo.net - Kenn Nguyen
اینجا چیکار میکنی سارا؟؟.. اسمایلی نامزد ثابق :)) - hosein.x6
Susan Beebe
I think the Google Chrome browser logo is a rip off copy of the 1970's "Simon" electronic game. What do you think?
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its pretty close. - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
You should send this totallylookslike.com - Mike Nayyar
guitar hero is a heavy rip off of simon says too, pretty inspirational game - Yunus Tunak
Mike - I might just do that! - Susan Beebe
The device name is not "Simon Says"...just Simon. "Simon Says" was on of the modes of play on Simon. </ComicBookGuy> - Josh Haley
That's why it looked familiar - M F
@Josh Haley - Thanks! I just corrected it... much appreciated - Susan Beebe
i remember that game. god, how i hated it. - Nathan Rein
I bet kids today have never seen the "Simon" electronic toy... makes me feel old! - Susan Beebe
I saw my name mentioned a few times, things ok over here? - Simon Wicks
Pft, it's obviously a pokeball - Daniel Bruce
hahaha! - Susan Beebe
omg, totally!! - Sarah Perez
I knew it reminded me of something! - Mary DeSive
since you put it that way, yeah ;) - Doug Schumacher
Lots of folks saying the Google Chrome logo "makes them want to play Simon" - LOL - Susan Beebe
to me it looks like how a non-computer-using artist type would design a trackball -- either that or they are trying to get a HAL vibe without creeping everyone out - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Uh-oh, Google, you've been caught with your hand in the electronics bin! - MiniMage
I got my son a travel version of Simon, so there's at least one kid who's seen it. (He needs hand-eye coordination practice.) This does seem very, very similar. - Kisha from BuddyFeed
I remember it ! :-) - Roberto from fftogo
I get the Simon apps for my phones. WinMo and iPhone. - MiniMage
Not sure why I didn't mention that I still have my old Simon. - MiniMage
exactly! awesome idea :) congrats! - Alihan ÇETİN
:) @Doğuş lol This is more than same :D - Alihan ÇETİN
Kol Tregaskes
What is your Twitter URL? What do you tweet about? Mine is http://twitter.com/koltreg... and I tweet about all sorts :-) #twitter
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Feel free to follow me. This thread could get messy. :-) #whatsyoururl - Kol Tregaskes
Sorry I had to delete the first post of this, so apologises for the few that posted their URLs on that one. - Kol Tregaskes
Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
Thanks, Nicholas. - Kol Tregaskes
Well I'll still be on Twitter once FF is integrated into FB. Join me on Twitter? :-) - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/chaz2b my posts start here for what i post on twitter - chaz2b
you rock, Kol! Good community building here. - Valeria Maltoni
http://twitter.com/andrewroche - politics and random stuff (a lot of it from here funnily enough). - Andrew Roche
http://www.twitter.com/jimgold... - photography and social media - Jim Goldstein
http://twitter.com/magicofpi - you might see a lot of ff.im links there, but I suppose that'll change soon... - Ryan - @magicofpi
http://twitter.com/jwang392 - web design, iphone app development, hawaii events - John Wang
http://twitter.com/onWave - I post links from a useful Twitter tool I made... and sometimes mundane stuff... - Gus
http://twitter.com/fcbosa - social media, blogging, design, inspiration. - Oguz Serdar
http://twitter.com/seckoa - I enjoy getting new followers - Seckoa from iPod
Thanks guys. - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/Chronotope - Mostly I tweet about tech stuff and news local to the Northern Virgina area. I also touch on video games and get some blipping in. - Aram Zucker-Scharff
http://twitter.com/gabediaz - Design, development, WordPress and all things in between. - Gabe Diaz
http://www.twitter.com/puffadd... I tweet about ninjas lol. - Jason
I basically tweet politics at http://Twitter.com/hopechat; i follow discussions on books, gardening and general stuff on http://Twitter.com/ruthdfw; grantwriting and freelancing on http://Twitter.com/words101 and for anything related to Dallas and surrounding cities it is http://Twitter.com/NDGEditor - R. Ferguson
http://twitter.com/movieguyjon - I say weird shit, bitch at random times, and will say more weird shit. Occasionally I'll post fun things too, with a smidgeon of inane. :P - Jonathan Hardesty
Pretty clever way to work in a plug for your timeline.. I like your style, Kol ;) - Brad McCrorey
Http://Twitter.com/Polizeros cleantech, the economy, leftwing politics - Bob Morris (polizeros) from iPhone
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/niron (isn't it obvious?) - Nir Ben Yona
http://twitter.com/dennis_... (don't forget the underscore) What do I tweet about? Tech, fiction, art, music, politics, comics, and of course my fiction. Occasionally some Seattle or Bremerton related stuff. I also have TwitterFeed tweet my blogs, and I always tweet from Flickr. - Dennis Jernberg
http://twitter.com/marcoda... Twitting about Communications, Marketing and something about myself :) - Marco Dal Pozzo [mdp]
http://twitter.com/tofu916 I tweet about black people and I use a lot of foul language. then I repent. follow mi! :) - Tofu De la Moore from BuddyFeed
http://twitter.com/hoof I tweet a lot in Dutch, about design, photoshop, 3d and everyday life. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
http://twitter.com/wordsfo... - I actually respond to people to want to chat with me ;-) - Jannifer @wordsforliving
http://twitter.com/alexgamela i tweet about media and journalism, and sometimes silly stuff. also in portuguese. - Alexandre Gamela from twhirl
i post about film and television editing/post production, I'm a bit of a gadget nerd, and i like anything funny on the web. i love followers... http://twitter.com/toddzelin - Todd Zelin
I'm sure you're all interesting but following 6,000 is my limit. ; ) - Liz
http://twitter.com/cgranier - I tweet about many things -usually tech-oriented, reply to everyone who @'s me, and have lately been posting a lot about #FreeMediaVE, bringing attention to the struggle against communism in Venezuela. Feel free to follow me. @ me for a quick follow back. No spammers please. - Carlos Granier-Phelps
Thank you all. I hope at least some follow me back else I'll hit my follower limit soon. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/may_gun My music career, interaction with ppl, The Guild, Wiggly Wigglers. - Spidra Webster
http://twitter.com/casschin - I mostly post up funny/odd web gems and nerdy tech news. Occasionally, I tweet what I eat. - Cass
http://twitter.com/Felter i tweet about all, but i don't retweet my FF message. From twitter to FF only. if you follow me in FF, you can read my tweet. - Felter Roberto from twhirl
http://twitter.com/abrudtkuhl - web strategy & internet marketing + random stuff - andy brudtkuhl
twitter.com/icetiger - Kim
twitter.com/andi1984 - elearning, web 2.0 - Andreas S.
http://twitter.com/islanddog Tech, Gaming, and everything in between - Spencer
http://twitter.com/livepaola (bilingual, in Italian and English) - Paola Bonomo
http://twitter.com/ozuckan, trilingual, in Turkish, in English, in French, all sort... - Ozgur Uckan
Thanks again. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Twitter.com/mathewballard and I tweet mostly about graphic and web design. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood from iPhone
http://twitter.com/sidmitra #hack,#hackday, and tech/geek in general. - Siddharth Mitra from twhirl
http://twitter.com/PhilBaumann - I'll tweet about anything stimulating, contentious or jackassy. - phil baumann
You know, you could have just started feeding in your tweets here and achieved the same, right? Or would that have been too subtle? - Mr. Gunn
http://twitter.com/glitterpoet Don't mean to offend but it's usually not religious. Porn, drinking,dancing, music,makeup....I still do healing work. I just don't talk about it much anymore. - Gabrielle
@fossilhuntress or fossilmaitress (I kept getting my email cracked and getting locked out hence the duplicate); all content, linked to digg, delicious... mostly science, paleo and random banter... - Fossil Huntress
http://twitter.com/joeygibson - I tweet about WDW, Java, Groovy, Scala, iPhone, politics, etc. I'm loads of fun. :-) - Joey Gibson
http://twitter.com/burak - I tweet about technology, gadgets, stuff that matters - Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
Fossil, it's @fossilhuntress http://twitter.com/fossilh... The other one doesn't exist. - Kol Tregaskes
It's @bookhling for me. I usually tweet about DIYBio, computers, books, and what I ate for dinner. :) - Sung W. Lim
Thanks guys. - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/lachmir I tweet about dumb stuff - Franc, a rememberer
Thanks everyone. - Kol Tregaskes
I have ceased being a twitter user since they are such twats (management) - Richard A.
http://twitter.com/erier2003 - I write about technology, journalism, and Star Wars. But mostly Star Wars. :) - Eric Geller
I twit at http://twitter.com/alfpace on webapps technology cool things - Alfonso Pace from iPhone
Maybe this is a good time to 'reactivate' this thread. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Don't forget the other lists can be found at the hashtag: #whatsyoururl - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/wangyip - mostly stuff from FF (tech, startups, web apps, sometimes things about math, medicine, fitness) - I've followed a few here on tech stuff (Edit: Thanks Kol for the thread) - Wang Yip
http://twitter.com/eoghann... - I post sci-fi news (tv, movies, books or comics I'm probably a fan of it), some tech stuff and the occasional round of venting. - Eoghann Irving
I have Twitter lists now, and I've started one up for FriendFeeders: http://twitter.com/dennis_...; if you want me to add you to it, @-mention me at http://twitter.com/dennis_.... - Dennis Jernberg
Thanks everyone! - Kol Tregaskes
Just followed you. Btw, mine's - http://twitter.com/jaypee - JP Habaradas
http://twitter.com/DavidHolmes - Focusing on Internet music, Open Content, and the Social Web. I use lists to group/filter the people I follow. - David Holmes
I can follow people again, cleared out a lot of users, anyone want a follow? :-) - Kol Tregaskes
http://twitter.com/1geeky - I tweet about tech and webdesign and also daily events :) - I /-\li
http://twitter.com/ajkohn - mostly search, social, marketing and ux with miscellaneous rants and observations - AJ Kohn
http://twitter.com/Metapho... - a mix of quotes, jokes and wordplay, especially metaphors and similes. - Dave Richardson
Bumping this as I've just done the same on Google+ here: https://plus.google.com/1044055... - Kol Tregaskes
Robin Wauters
My6sense Injects A Relevance-Based Tweet Stream Into Twitter.com - http://techcrunch.com/2011...
Does this mean I can talk openly about it now? Because I love it. - NOT THE CRICKET
Louis Gray
Sarah models the blue Apple onesie she wore for the first time today. (A pink one is somewhere as well)
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It said size 6-12 months, so at 8 1/2 months, I figured it was time, even for this petite girl. And yes, maybe Matthew will end up wearing the blue one more than she will over time, but I think she looks great in blue! - Louis Gray
Jay, happy to help. One of the best books is this one: http://www.amazon.com/Healthy... (Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child) Get a routine going, and don't sweat the small stuff. - Louis Gray
Jay, for book recommendations, we've had great success with this: http://www.amazon.com/Happies... - Rochelle
Give her little tummy a zerbert for me. - Yolanda
How about a Linux onesie? Don't worry, you won't have to compile the cloth yourself. Seriously, though, rather stylish Apple onesie. - James Rishabh Mishra
Possible, yes, Matthew and Sarah will wear Linux onesies. Web and tech donations are always accepted. :-) (Microsoft included!) - Louis Gray
Sarah looks adorable in blue! :) She's is really cute and playful!! - Susan Beebe
Louis, you'd let them wear Microsoft onesies? In Matthew and Sarah's teenage years, how else will they rebel against their Apple-loving dad? - James Rishabh Mishra
Wow still no hair huh! - Aviv
Bump due to this article: http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2011... - Louis Gray
Will we be seeing Sarah holding Braden when he wears his Apple onesie? Or will he be sporting only Droidwear? - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
WoH, Braden has both. He's too small for all of it though. Yesterday he wore a 6 month size "Geek Beta" shirt from Microsoft. It was plenty roomy. :) - Louis Gray
Holy moly, she's crazy adorable, Louis! Blast from the past. - Chieze Okoye
What a cute!!! - adam
Melissa
Derrick joins a mariachi band - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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We arrived early and decided to walk around the block... and so we happened upon a mariachi band practicing across the street :) - Melissa
ssooooooo cute! - Shevonne
Derrick El Bravo! - Carlos Ayala
Does this mean that Derrick will start hanging around and be really really irritating until we pay him money to go away? :) - John E. Bredehoft
absolutely perfect. - Jim: with more caffeine!
Derrick's guitar is bigger than everyone else's. #doubleentendre - Shey
aye carumba! - RAPatton
*dead* - Derrick
next time wear the proper costume or they might kick you out. i don't care how bueno your guitarron is. - grant fox
which one's derrick? - Cee Bee
Cee Bee, the cute one. - Derrick
HELL YES - Josh Haley
This is so awesome - Rodfather
Mel, I love how they would pose for you. I know how you shoot and you like to get natural shots, but everytime you picked up your camera, they got all single file line status for you. :) - Derrick
that is why I love the mariachi. Ole! - Melissa
Jose' Feliciano, look out!!!!! - Ms_Krista
Heart - Yolanda
Ok, I have a request: El Cascabel. GREAT Mariachi song! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
GREATEST.PHOTO.EVER... - Johnny
Derrick is clearly my muse. - Melissa
So, when are you going to Guadalajara for your big break, Derrick? :D - Steven Perez
Arriba! - mikepk
awesome! - BEX
"Yeah, so we're in the studio now, laying down some tracks. They wanna get Diddy in on it, but I'm hoping we can work with Reznor, cause he seems like a cool guy..." - Derrick
Diddy, Reznor, Derrick & Mariachi... I'll take it on vinyl! - Jason Wehmhoener
That is so totally full of win that it makes me "SQUEEEE"! - Lindsay
Ay Papi...this pic is awesome. I'm going to go make myself a margarita in honor of it. - Mark Krynsky
BUMP. - mjc
Hmmm...I look tall. - Derrick
Listening to the Ffundercats 27 podcast now. Glad this picture was featured. - John E. Bredehoft
Wow. my photo was featured on a podcast and no one even told me? - Melissa
Pssst! Hey Melissa! We were talkin' about you! http://friendfeed.com/joshhal... AND http://friendfeed.com/joshhal... - Josh Haley
Just in time for Cinco de Mayo! - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
After reading Derrick's Thanksgiving 2010 post to his mom, I realized that she never got to learn about his performing career. - John E. Bredehoft
Smiling all over again. - Ha3rvey (on hiatus)
I look tall. - Derrick
Bajo Sexto WIN! - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Your guitar is colossal - Mo Kargas
Michael Fidler
These are all done in Pencil.
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Impressive - M F
Great work! - Neya
I'm sorry but this is unbelievable:) I'll give credit to the artist upon more convincing proof! The photogenic look of the tiger and lion really helps the artist's case though:) - Roney Smith
I'm with Roney... I find this hard to believe... or maybe I'm just jealous that I can't even get stick people right! - Jasmin Smith
I don't believe it. Too amazing. - Rahsheen
I'm with Rah - Shey
Only the lion looks like its drawn - embee
The bear and rhino look drawn, too. - Chris Charabaruk
very very talented. Wow they look like B&W pics you know photography. - Gabriella Sannino
These are amazing, were they done by you? - Angelo Rodrigues
Nice photographs - Rafael Robayna
@michael, if they weren't drawn by you, at least tell us who the artist is and the link - Zulkarnain K.
Link please? - Jason Wehmhoener
wow - Carolyn Chan
being slightly skeptical, i'm going to say these were done with pencil by a printer of some sorts... #justsayin - No Name
they're beautiful, but skeptical as well - Jennifer Van Grove
Would need to see higher quality images to see if they are pencil or not - too many jpg artifacts to tell. - Luke Addison from twhirl
Stupefied. - Parth Awasthi
Wow!! Yeah it's pretty amazing what they can draw with a pencil nowadays, deviantART has lots of great pencil art. - Kol Tregaskes
Michael, who is the artist? - Kol Tregaskes
wow, cool! - Sarah Perez
I'm really happy everyone liked these. They're my most liked entry to date, Thanks! There also seems to be some question about whether these are actually Pencil Drawings.I can assure you that they are.When I get home, I should have the links. I have more drawings, too. - Michael Fidler from fftogo
Wow, these are stunning!! - Susan Beebe
Yes, especially the tiger. Reminds me of that "Tiger, tiger burning bright." - Melanie Reed
Alright, Mike - I believe you. These are awesome. Good job! - No Name
HOLY CRAP. - Chieze Okoye
no way! - Mister Groonk
Thanks Enrique, I'll post some more soon. They are a little more obvious than these ones. As Luke points out; without being able to look closely it's impossible to tell. He's right; but up close it's more obvious. I'll upload the originals to Picasa later, and then you'll be able to zoom in with any photo viewer and see for yourselves. I can't believe how many people liked these. A few people have reposted them already. Thanks! - Michael Fidler
Absolutely awesome, Michael. You are extremely talented. Everyone should repost these pix and help to make you famous. You should be doing this full time - you obviously have some passion for this. Bravo. - Chris Loft
These are really beautiful, Michael. Do you sell them? - Shannon Jiménez
Chris, I would love to say they're mine, but it's not true. I've had them for a while, but I'll find the artists names. It will just require a little backtracking. Besides, they deserve the credit; all I did was find them:-) - Michael Fidler
Cut the bullshit! :) Photos are very good. - Burçak Çubukçu
I draw alot in pencil, but they are amazing, the best for me is the girl, that is the most photo-like one. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
I agree Rob, the girl is amazing. My favorite by far! Wait until you see it close up! It's really had to tell, even up close! - Michael Fidler
Burçak Çubukçu If these were photographs, they would be very good. As Pencil Drawings,(which they are), they're amazing. - Michael Fidler
Wow, amazingly realistic - Threepwood
@Michael Fidler did you draw them? How can you so sure? - Burçak Çubukçu
dont look like it - Prakash
@ Michael Fidler don't push so hard :) - Burçak Çubukçu
@Burçak Çubukçu I can't tell if your serious now or just kidding around. I hope your just having fun! If you are serious, I've never given you a reason to question my integrity, nor do I ever intend to. However, the second set is up now, so judge them for yourself, but don't judge me! http://ff.im/1BJh5 BTW, I messed up and reposted the shot of the women again. Oh well. Hope you like them:-) - Michael Fidler
@Michael: try deviantART, not Picasa, to submit your artworks - Zulkarnain K.
WOW "I can't believe it's in pencil" - sofarsoShawn
LouCypher, I know it well, but I don't see why I would want to do that. I hope everyone knows by now that they're not mine? I'm sorry, but I can't say it any clearer than that. - Michael Fidler
nah, i don't believe it is done in pencil. i am sure it is photoshopped :) - hasin hayder
These would be great even for photos. - Ronald S
i'm not able to comprehend - Varun Shenoy
I'm finding this both interesting and humorous at the same time. There's a separate message board where this post is being discussed and it has another forty comments on it already. I think its great how this has created some lively discussion, considering that when I posted this I was doubtful if anyone would even like it. When I went to sleep last night there was only had 3 or 4 likes... more... - Michael Fidler
Very interesting. I would like to see them up close and in person...just to make sure. Bill said it's real and possible. Your 2nd set of picts look like pencil. Nice work in finding these! - LaFern Cusack
Kol, I can't thank you enough! Kol found another post which helps to prove that these are done in pencil. I had my doubts about a few of them because I collected them from several different sites over time, but the site Kol found has done a great job pulling together an impressive collection of these drawings and more. Take a look - http://www.flickzzz.com/2009... - Michael Fidler
Actually there are more than what this site shows. There's an entire set with the cats(little cats), which I have, and there's a new portrait set. - Michael Fidler
Found your post here, Michael. :-) I tried my best to find the artists. - Kol Tregaskes
Amazing and very very very good.... Very impressive ... - Linda Zeek-Bobinski
fake. http://lenscratch.blogspot.com/2009... Even if your not claiming to be the artist, these are photographs, well except the woman, thats pencil - james foor
Yeah we know, thanks though, James. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Excellent pictures - how long did it take you to scan the photographs into Photoshop and then edit them? The only pencil that has come into contact with these "drawings" is the Photoshop pencil. A tip - stop trying to fool people into thinking you are a "real" artist, because all you are doing is cheapening proper artist's works whom have spent hours creating real pictures as opposed to a few minutes on a graphics editing package. - The Wimp
A bell does ring here. And I am remembering why I was so attracted to the tiger...and the lion for that matter. These are exact replicas of prints I had in our bedroom when I lived in Dallas. I had bought the prints (in color) at a department store, - Melanie Reed
Actually, I have learned quite a bit about these drawing since I made this post. Not only have I discovered all of the artists, but I've learned more about how they are created. They are always copied from a photograph or painting, but usually a photograph. It is extremely time consuming and detail orientated work. There are many other artists besides the ones featured here who practice... more... - Michael Fidler
Most of them have portfolio's on deviantart.com and their work is truly amazing even if they are copies of other artists work. I suppose with this level of detail, they have to start with something. Nevertheless, I'm still in awe of their talent. Melanie, the animal prints you refer to are from a very well renowned photographer. The originals are B&W I'll look it up later but I do have... more... - Michael Fidler
wow; they're unbelieavably beautiful. - liladreams
Has anyone ever corrected the record and pointed out, with the exception of the Charlize Theron drawing, that these are indeed photos by Alexander Von Reiswitz? - erik weisz
Erik, thank you for bringing this up again, but I think I already mentioned something about this in my prior comment. However, since it appears that you only signed up to friendfeed to leave a single comment, (ok, why?) I will try to summarize what I wrote previously. In brief, I learned after doing a little research that all photo-realistic drawings like the ones that I shared here,... more... - Michael Fidler
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I can assure you that what are claimed to be drawings of animals, in your post here, are photos. I used a website to that allows you to do an comparison of the Von Reiswitz photos and the images you have posted here. There are no differences. Every hair matches up. As a pencil artist myself I can tell you that it's pretty much impossible to get that kind of accuracy and have it look... more... - erik weisz
but... it has to be real, i saw it on the internet - Iphigenie
Eric, it doesn't matter to me if you just joined, and I apologize if I made you think otherwise. If you have any questions regarding friendfeed, please feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them. At this point, I would be happy if we could find someone who is an image analysis expert, and finally point this thing to rest. Every time that I look into this, all I find is a... more... - Michael Fidler
the site spammed above must all be done in pencil too, right, thats why you posted it? - Iphigenie
I'm amazed that people are still posting these photographs of animals and calling them pencil drawings. This is at least the third case I can remember (and there are probably more) of this happening. The myth about them being drawings was debunked long ago. It's also funny that whenever they get posted the person posting them doesn't make it clear that they aren't the artist, exactly as you have done. - canadianmaple09
@canadianmaple09 I posted these back in March, 2009 when I was beginning to use FF regularly. I ran them through TinEye hoping to find their source, but it returned no results. When I ran through again yesterday, TinEye returned over four pages of results. If I had it to do over again, would I? Yes - Michael Fidler
The people you refer do don't join "just to slam" someone, they are concerned members of the online art community that want to see real art appreciated and fake art or photos being passed off as drawings revealed for what they really are. Artists such as Brian Duey, Armin Mersmann, Paul Lung, Zindy Nielsen,and many others do not receive the appreciation they deserve because of scams like this. - canadianmaple09
canadianmaple09, the worthiness of your motives notwithstanding (and they are worthy, definitely) you could definitely have approached Michael completely differently by say, giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than attacking in a highly accusatory tone. - Chieze Okoye
When you've seen these same pictures posted multiple times by people that just find them on the internet and claim they are pencil drawings, when it has already been established on multiple occasions that they are not, the "benefit of the doubt" approach seems a little too generous. People post these images and claim they're drawings to get views for their own site or blog or page or whatever it is they post it on. It's wrong and it needs to be stopped. - canadianmaple09
I can understand that, but you should also keep in mind that everyone is not as well-versed in the issue as you are. All I'm saying is that you would probably be more effective in this case if you weren't setting this up as a us-vs.-them, "must destroy with the validity my argument!" attitude when talking to a guy who's been actively having a discussion on the issue in what seems to me (having been around when he first posted the images and the follow up thread and what not) to be good faith. - Chieze Okoye
Look at his first comment here. People clearly thought he drew them. He doesn't set the record straight. He also claims that they "are actually pencil drawings" and that "I have more drawings too." Later he claims that you need to look at them closer to see they are drawings and that he will "post the originals". Once again, this makes it sound like they are his. This follows the same... more... - canadianmaple09
Greg and Chieze, thanks for your support. I really appreciate it. @canadianmaoles09, for what it’s worth, I share your concerns about giving proper attribution when sharing also. However, I admit that I'm more conscious of it now than I was at the time of this post. Nevertheless, I have never taken credit for anybody's work here other than my own! - Michael Fidler
BTW, I didn't realize it before, but I just noticed that you're new here too. I hope you like it so far and spend more time here. IMO, friendfeed is still the best thing around! - Michael Fidler
I would probably qualify as an image analysis expert, but there's no way to prove that online. One thing we can do is look at color. Even though the images are black and white,they're actually RGB images, meaning they contain cyan magenta and yellow. If you look at the image of the rhino you have posted then look at the photo of the rhino at the photographer's site you can see they both... more... - erik weisz
Kol Tregaskes
Today is FriendFeed's "Subscribe Sunday" - http://friendfeed.com/ff-subs...
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Thanks goes to the combination of Alfredo (http://friendfeed.com/fredyga...), vijay (http://friendfeed.com/dffrnt and Praveen (http://friendfeed.com/praveen...). Thank you very much guys. I can assure everyone they should be very grateful to these guys as you wouldn't have wanted any logo I made as I'm awful at creating them. Find out more about FF-Subscribe Sunday here: http://friendfeed.com/ff-subs... - Kol Tregaskes
My boys! - Shevonne
err my name :p - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
@Alredo Whats wrong with your name? - Shevonne
Oops, corrected. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
@Alfredo I KNOWWWWW hahahahah - Shevonne
I need to check my posts more, I'm terrible at it. Ask Manuela. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
@Kol doesn't matter. We all knew who "Alredo" was. I do the same. I always screw up my spelling on here - Shevonne
It's ok, Klo. - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Shevonne, hehe. :-) Thanks Bce. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Haha. Shevonne is back if we haven't noticed. :P - Amani
Hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Cool logo. It doesn't represent "Sunday", though. - Zulkarnain K.
I like it. What would you change about it, Lou? - Kol Tregaskes
And a quick reminder about FF Subscribe Sunday, why not join in: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ff-subs... - Kol Tregaskes
Cool - I like that, so who are we subscribing to on sunday? - Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Red letters on white perhaps, or picture of the sun. - Zulkarnain K.
Lou, cool idea! I'll speak to the designer. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Dan, check the group's description. Basically it's like Twitter's followfriday but for FriendFeed. Pick someone from FF you want to recommend and follow the guidelines on the group. - Kol Tregaskes
Bumped as a reminder for today. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Nice icon! - Just Mrs. V
Thanks, Katie, it came from a combination of vijay, Alfredo and Praveen. - Kol Tregaskes
It's that time again, folks! :-) My FF-SS this week is Nicola: http://ff.im/2KDUY, who is yours? - Kol Tregaskes
Here's a good list of people to follow and promote if you're stuck for ideas: http://ff.im/3pIES - Kol Tregaskes
Just a suggestion but if you add "_GG72" to your FF-SS tweets they will then appear here: http://ftags.com/GG72 - Kol Tregaskes
Bumping for today. - Kol Tregaskes
New name and new guidelines, check the post here: http://ff.im/4MXRD - Kol Tregaskes
This is now called FollowFriday (well for the moment anyway). Please recommend a fellow FriendFeeder that we should follow. Mine is Rochelle here: http://friendfeed.com/ff-foll... - Kol Tregaskes
Heh, but it's Friday today! ;) - Tyson Key
Yeah's I'm trying a new name. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
And a new day. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Bumping as it was mentioned recently. Should this is Sunday, Friday or what day? - Kol Tregaskes
Don't forget to promote your fellow FriendFeeders. - Kol Tregaskes
Robert Scoble
At friendfeed watching my friends' feeds (photo): - http://ourdoings.com/roberts...
At friendfeed watching my friends' feeds (photo):
Now I am at EyeFi. Cool stuff. Wifi from your camera. - Robert Scoble
Stop by when you're done at EyeFi. - Paul Buchheit
EyeFi is a killer idea - andy brudtkuhl
Ask when eye-fi APIs are coming out (client and server) - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Nice. Now we're talking. Much better than that Facebook stuff. - Thomas Hawk
Ross Miller
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Shiny! - Brian Chang
Same thing work just gave me, such a speed demon...do tell how 10.6 dominates - Braden Douglass
Wow those boxes are really thin now! - Chris Lawrence
Chris: If you think the box is thin, wait 'til you see what's inside. :) - April Buchheit
want, want. - Laura Norvig
Nice stuff. - 5ttttt
I can't ever quit my job because they gave me a MacBook Pro and I don't want to give it up. - Rebecca Sun
13 inch or 15 inch ? cool ! - ewill
Kol Tregaskes
Feel free to add me. Don't forget about the Flickr Photography group here: http://friendfeed.com/flickr-... And there is also a FriendFeed Flickr group here: http://www.flickr.com/groups... #whatsyoururl - Kol Tregaskes
سلتون تو دوباره پریدی وسط بحث یه عده بزرگتر؟ :))))) - I /-\li
http://www.flickr.com/photos... please require to be added to see my photos :D - Hoka Hey
I'm subbing everyone as I go. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
I can't believe who I've missed here, thanks for the links! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
http://www.flickr.com/photos... Not much activity lately, thou. - Marcos
Andy, 2? That's just greedy, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Kol, once again, thanks for helping us all connect. There are some great photographers on FF. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Now that I'm going through and adding all of these people I'm discovering that Flickr needs a grouping functionality for contacts. - Kenton
I don't need to mention it here. You can just mouse over me to find out. The power of FriendFeed. - Nick B.
Wow, Nick. Way to play along. - Rochelle
I looked at at least two pages of every user who posted. I just started learning, so I bookmarked about 20 pages that I'll be coming back to. This was nice, thanks! - Ryan Massie
Feel free to add me: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Milton Ramirez - Milton Ramirez
A great thread. I do believe that I have subscribed to ya'll. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
http://www.flickr.com/photos... awesome thread! will have to check everyone out [I work there] - Criz
http://flickr.com/photos... (NSFW if you have safesearch turned off) - Michael Hocter
http://www.flickr.com/photos... . The quality of my stream varies depending on inspiration, if you're browsing I suggest my 25 most interesting images: http://www.flickr.com/photos... and my personal favorites: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Niklas Morberg
Http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaymeephoto - Chad McCoskey from iPhone
Thanks for all the links! I'll be going through them all today. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thanks guys! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Keep 'em coming. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
wow, thats a lot of flickrs LOL well, thanks to you I went to flickr and set up my url.. I was amazed this was available http://www.flickr.com/photos... - David Gross
Thank you all! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Couldn't find the page, Soner. - Kol Tregaskes
Cool. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thanks. - Kol Tregaskes
Thank you everyone! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Great shots, G. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thank you. - Kol Tregaskes
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
/micahwittman - Micah
Thank you all! - Kol Tregaskes
Thank you. - Kol Tregaskes
http:///www... - I haven't updated it, photo-wise for a long time, since I was getting dangerously close to exceeding the 200 item limit. - Tyson Key
Thank you. - Kol Tregaskes
This is me: flickr.com/photos/vestigialconsciousness/ - Parth Awasthi
there are some great pictures in this list! - Chris Rogers
Web Strategy Workshop
Facebook Marketing Statistics, Demographics, Reports, and News – CheckFacebook - http://www.checkfacebook.com
Paul Buchheit
awesome - Ayman Shurafa
wow. insane! - Caio
Looks like Tornado won! - Private Sanjeev
love the metaphor :) - andy brudtkuhl
brilliant. Alternative comment: this metaphor is a train wreck - Ivan Kirigin
haha love it - Rasmus Lauridsen
Smashing! Simply smashing... - Chris Heath
Ivan +1! - Kevin L
so sad story :( trains are so unprotected.. - я был в лесу
physics is a beaatch for sure - Robert Higgins
That video never gets old. Never underestimate the power of nature. - Jim Goldstein
wow!! :) - Oguz Serdar
:) - Micah
AMAZING footage. Dayum! - Josh Haley
That was worth watching even ignoring the obviously cute pun. - Greg Grothaus
Paul is probably just joking - but if he is serious about this pun i would assume it's for good reason. - Chris Heath
and i bet paul just couldn't wait for them to open up tornado when he first saw this video - Chris Heath
amazing - boro
should hitler be saying something about it now :) - vinod
MOther Nature indeed - Mark Mason
WOW! That reminds me...I still have some video from this summer's train trip to post. Nothing this exciting happened, I'm afraid. - Eph Zero
Just as I expected, it's all twisted. - Dustin Sallings
Mona Nomura
The only way I'd go camping. ;)
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Been there, done that. Many, many, many years ago, we brought computers to a week-long music festival just so we could play games. - Akiva
Akiva, you went to burning man? Sweet! Tell all... - Pete D
Hah, no. It was a regional festival. - Akiva
That guy needs to ditch his eMachines and get a MacBook Air. - Louis Gray
What in the hell resolution is he running at? The IE icon takes up the entire screen. - Akiva
I wonder what battery he used... - Ming Tsai
He's writing "e"-mail - Morton Fox
.LOLz - .LAG liked that
Wiindows Fit - Jemm
L ... O ... L - Mike Reynolds
LOL that would be my bf! - Brandy Lea
Dude. Get a Shuttle case at least. - Cyndy
Heavy pc and crt, ok, but the subwoofer too? You know how heavy those things are? This would work in space maybe. - Josh Haley
And I wonder where it's getting powered from. Is there an extension cord behind him, or maybe he's got a generator attached to his feet? - Costa Walcott
But which way would it point? Or should there be two, one aimed at his face, and one on the visor of his hat, to see what he can see? - Ordinarybug Heather
It's a 'Trojan Horse'!! The hollowed out tower contains 8 Macbook Airs, 25 iPhones, a G1™[product placement by Google] and a handful of Newtons - just waiting to be deployed! - Micah
There is a distinct lack of cup holder. - Rochelle
True... where does the Mountain Dew go? Or coffee or Jolt Cola or whatever caffeinated substance he drinks? - Ordinarybug Heather
Rochelle: thats what the CD Drive tray is for. - Roberto Bonini
Hmm, needs more counter-balances on the front. Right now it's just a touch off-center. :D - i80and
*bump* - Micah
*bump*^2 - imabonehead
WIN! - TheHenry
COOL! :d - selma hurkan
either that or my laptop and my Rocket stick with me lol - Rob Cairns
Susan Beebe
WordPress mobile Plugin / Theme "WPtouch" by BraveNewCode Inc. My blog http://susanbeebe.com on iPhone looks hawt! - http://www.bravenewcode.com/wptouch...
WordPress mobile Plugin / Theme  "WPtouch"  by BraveNewCode Inc.  My blog http://susanbeebe.com on iPhone looks hawt!
WordPress mobile Plugin / Theme  "WPtouch"  by BraveNewCode Inc.  My blog http://susanbeebe.com on iPhone looks hawt!
"WPtouch automatically transforms your WordPress blog into a web-application experience when viewed from an iPhone, iPod touch or Android touch mobile device. It comes complete with all the standard WordPress blog features: search, login, categories, tags, archives, photos & more. WPtouch also offers many customization features through a beautifully designed WordPress admin panel." - Susan Beebe from Bookmarklet
been using this as well - love it - andy brudtkuhl
I use it. I like it. Just wish there was an easier way to change the calendar icons and allow for thumbnails. Of course, that would immediately reduce the loading speed… - Jason Theodor
oh, now that looks good app. - Malinda Routhier
Wow, so wifi is faster than edge. ;-P Who would have thought it ;-). In all seriousness it depends on the carrier though. - Richard A. from fftogo
I've been searching for themes that work well with mobile for the last couple of hours. Thanks for solving my problem. - Bret Rowe
Bret - cool, glad this helped! let me know if you find any other nice mobile blog themes - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed
how does WPtouch compare to wp-mobile-edition? Does WPtouch support all major mobile devices? - Jeroen De Miranda
Not sure... good questions! I use this on my blog http://susanbeebe.com and it looks fabulous on my iPhone :) - Susan Beebe
for some reason, I still can't get this thing to work correctly... - Tim Hoeck
I've used this for months--it's great. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Louis Gray
"I even remember what it was like before Robert Scoble got here!" - http://louisgray.com/live...
"I even remember what it was like before Robert Scoble got here!"
i do miss festivusfeed. airing of grievances brought about actual FF updates, right? - MG Siegler
there should be a "love" option for things like this. lol - shaun mclane
Great example of how the FF culture was a big part of growing a love for the service that will no doubt be eaten by the FB dragon. - Mark Krynsky
++Mark - vijay
Awwwww - Susan Beebe from iPhone
Will this be the butterfly? - Jesse Stay
Bump for the good times. - Mark Krynsky
Jesse roflol! - Melanie Reed
Jesse wins! - Micah
Cristo, not enough. It was in December of 2007. :) - Louis Gray
FriendFeed has never released user statistics, to my knowledge. - Louis Gray
I forgot about this one, a true classic. I need to have a high-trafficked site just so I can pull out gag logos. - Vezquex
Michael Hocter
I'm Louis Gray recommended! http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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Graphic blatantly stolen from Bwana: http://bwana.posterous.com/i-made-... - Michael Hocter
To be exact, it's a Mike Fruchter recommendation on Louis' blog... Thanks so much, Mike! http://friendfeed.com/fruchter - Michael Hocter
Congrats! - Bwana ☠
totally jealous - sofarsoShawn
very nice - (jeff)isageek
No, that's another guy, this Louis Gray is...is...amaaaaaaazzzzzing - sofarsoShawn
Fake beard? Hey! I've been working on that thing for months in secret! - Louis Gray
I totally thought it was real. - Michael Hocter from fftogo
Stop what, joanne? - Michael Hocter
Scary - Charlie Anzman
Bump for the good times. - Mark Krynsky
Louis Gray
I am sitting next to Mr. Lifestreaming, Mark Krynsky, at a presentation by Steve Rubel on Lifestreams. This is lifestream mecca.
First one to get a pic of the others up is the King of Lifestreaming. - Daniel J. Pritchett
Hey! I know (of) those guys! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
It's a bit surreal and strange commenting on this sitting right next to Louis. - Mark Krynsky
I'm going to go ahead and award Mark the title based on this pic: http://friendfeed.com/krynsky... - Daniel J. Pritchett
[redacted] - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Wish I was there . . . but at least I'm busy blogging - Shari Weiss
oooh how fun, wish i was there! :) - Susan Beebe
Dave Winer
Amazon.com Introduces Same-Day Delivery. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...
Doug Mitchell
Dooba.net » Automatically backup your Mac to Amazon S3 - http://dooba.net/2009...
Louis Gray
Beyond RSS – Four sites that can tell you what you want to read - http://royal.pingdom.com/2009...
Robert Scoble
Video: Screenjelly: A new, easy way to share what’s on your screen. http://www.building43.com/videos... (Lots of vids coming, had a backlog built up!).
Stephen Mack
Developers: If you find yourself contemplating the implementation of custom scroll bars for any reason whatsoever, please take a cold shower instead. Thank you.
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1. SAP. No keyboard control, unintuitive response rate. 2. Google Wave. Ditto, plus buggy behavior as well. 3. Some random Flash site where the scroll bar tab didn't even move when you scrolled down. - Stephen Mack
I can't think of any site or app where novel scroll bar design was anything other than a misfeature. The native UI has ~seven scroll bar behaviors, and custom designs always forget at least one of them. Trust me, users will NOT appreciate the creativity of your design. - Stephen Mack
Reminds me of those OMG EXTREEEEEEEEEME overclocking and system monitoring tools that came with some motherboards that had all kinds of Doom/Quake-like crap flying out of the entirely customized window. It looked goofy and dumb. - Akiva
OMG Wave's scrollbars are teh sux0r. I detest Google's scrollbars in general, but these make me think they hate people. - Anika
Akiva, I bet those apps were outsourced and the developers charged by the line. Anika, Joey: Agreed -- Google Wave's scroll bars seem to exist solely to make you appreciate the native scrollbars so much more. Who spent the time implementing that real-time shadow? Was there nothing more productive for that developer to do instead? - Stephen Mack
amen to that! don't break standard browser controls!!!! - .LAG liked that
Pretty much applies to all default controls of the operating systems... - Jemm
Full disclosure: I work at Google, but not on Wave. I'm usually completely on board with the idea that we should leave native scrollbars alone, but before you assume that they were reimplemented just for fun, consider the problem they're trying to solve: Native scrollbars do not handle arbitrarily long scrollable areas well. Take a gigantic document and drag a native scrollbar one... more... - Joel Webber
I have yet to see a good reason for a custom scrollbar. I especially hate Adobe's custom scrollbars in web apps, for the reasons cited above. - Brian Johns
I fully admit that Wave has a lot of details that remain to be ironed out, but it's completely unreasonable to call it "not a real product". I use it in my day to day work very heavily, and couldn't survive without it. Our team is highly distributed, and Wave has really helped us keep long complex discussions from turning into email clusterfscks. Which they usually did in the past. - Joel Webber
Thanks, Cristo. I really needed an extra dose of pedantry today. I'm absolutely certain you're right to suggest that the problems of distributed teams are perfectly solved, so no new tool could possibly improve the situation. I and my team must be hallucinating to think it's helping us at all. - Joel Webber
Joel, I think Cristo was pointing out that your use of the phrase "couldn't survive without it" may be a touch hyperbolic. :) You may not be as productive, but he is arguing that you would still exist as a team of living beings. - Stephen Mack
Joel, thanks for providing the rationale behind why Wave is reimplementing scrollbars. My main concerns are: 1. I'm used to being able to use the arrow keys to scroll. But when in a wave but not editing, the arrow keys do nothing. Same for Home and End. (Fortunately Page Up and Page Down do work, but that's not enough.) 2. The scroll widget is always the same size, so you can't tell how... more... - Stephen Mack
I don't think anyone would complain if the scroll bars were replaced with something better. From what I've seen, this is not better. - pitlord
If it's any consolation, negative reaction to the scroll bars in Google Wave have distracted everyone from how much they dislike Flash custom scroll bars. (I just typo'd that as "scroll barfs." How fitting.) - Stephen Mack
@Stephen: 1. The arrow keys here is that they (along with home/end) are used to move among blips, which one could argue is the closest corollary to the "line by line" one would normally associate with up/down arrow keys. 2. When you're dragging, the shadow is the proportional part, rather than the widget itself. This avoids the problem in traditional scroll bars, where the... more... - Joel Webber
BTW, please don't assume I mean to be the great defender of all that is perfect about Wave's scrollbars. I only intend to help explain what I perceive as a legitimate problem they're trying to solve. I'm certain they're a lot that still needs be tweaked about them. - Joel Webber
Joel, thanks for the explanations. For 1, you're right, arrow keys are working for me now. (I had trouble previously.) So that's great. For 2, I don't see that at all -- the height of the shadow grows/shrinks seemingly based on velocity and then achieves a maximum height, but as far as I can tell unrelated to what's visible on the screen. 3. I would never have guessed that, but sorry,... more... - Stephen Mack
Louis Gray
A photo of Robert Scoble (@scobleizer) hard at work in his secret laboratory - and a top-secret picture of his whiteboard!
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Robert Scoble can be found here: http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei... - Louis Gray
I like the "Battle Fronts" on @scobleizer´s whiteboard - Torsten Eckert
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Who is this Scobleizer that you speak of? Is he of the Tech Geek Clan? ;-P - Mathew A. Koeneker
Hmm...not surprisingly, I don't see Google Wave written anywhere :) - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
FFCode, uptime exceeds 100% because multiple devices are involved. :) - Louis Gray
The rust FW stickers amuse me - that's the FirstWorld Pharma logo http://twitter.com/fwpharma unless there is another company with an identical logo >.< - Sally Church
Sally: I'm surprised that anyone looking at this photo wouldn't recognize one of Adobe's "elemental" logos, if not the particular app it represents. Also, it looks quite different from the one you linked to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Bill Jackson
Robert Scoble
Um @mashable if you think Cliqset is FriendFeed done right I have a bridge to sell you. Looks like a clone without FF's best features.
Damn, this article so misses the mark it isn't even funny. - Robert Scoble
i agree robert - andy brudtkuhl
Tech reporters should need to do their homework before writing headlines like this: http://mashable.com/2009... this is the worst article I've ever seen Mashable write. - Robert Scoble
Mashable should pull that article and do a better job of editing before they publish. - Hugh Briss
Hugh: my problem is 70% with the headline, but 30% with the lack of effort to understanding FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
Robert, i know you are not the biggest Wave fan yet, but have you tried looking into the public waves? Just add: public@a.gwave.com as a contact, then define a search for example "with:public@a.gwave.com" and you get the full stream. We have a fun discussion over at Hacker News: http://www.victusspiritus.com/2009... I guess you probably know about it already :) - Bastian
Yes, Public Waves are interesting. But far too geeky. If Mashable writers complain they don't get FriendFeed well, then, they have no hope of getting Google Wave. - Robert Scoble
I agree, silly article about Cliqset. - Bastian
If your going to compare something to something else at least try and give me a grid or something to show the features differences. Cnet's prize fights or Louis Gray's excellent article on twitter clients http://blog.louisgray.com/2009... are examples of how it should be done. - Luke Kilpatrick
totally agree, the problem with Cliqset is that they will now be always labelled as a friendfeed clone.. people should move away from putting a clone stamp on services and let them be their own value. - Jaap Willem
RT @Christina Warren: Oh FriendFeed Mafia. Calling people who don't get your service dumb is a real way to win friends and influence people - Wins Fern
Wins: another inaccuracy. No one ever called her "dumb." I called her article the worst Mashable has ever written. But they are not the same thing. - Robert Scoble
I bet it would be pretty easy to find worse Mashable articles. Given the site's longevity and frequency of publishing, they are no doubt out there. But it would make sense that if you were set up to present a case as an authority figure/journalist, you would have a good idea of the services being compared, and that's not the case here. - Louis Gray
BTW, thanks Luke. I didn't see your link until now, but I agree! :) - Louis Gray
Louis: y ou are probably right but this is one I know a bit about so can be authoritative on pointing it out. I don't remember anything with a more incorrect headline on Mashable, though. - Robert Scoble
I like this one: "How would you insult Robert Scoble?" http://friendfeed.com/mashabl... - Daniel J. Pritchett
Doug Mitchell
http://twitpic.com/le0qb - 10 days and counting yellow pages. When will I recycle you.
http://twitpic.com/le0qb - 10 days and counting yellow pages. When will I recycle you.
We got a phone book a couple of weeks ago. My 6 yo asked what it was. I showed her and explained it all. She then rolled her eyes, sighed and said all world-weary, "Why can't you just Google it?" - Anika
haha! I used my phonebook last week to start the charcoal for my smoker :-) - andy brudtkuhl
Mike Templeton
Good discussion happening on my post about libraries using social media and new technology: http://mikethoughts.com/2009...
Robert Scoble
For instance, that last tweet is already on FriendFeed, but not on my Cliqset. And where is real time search? Really lame article Mashable.
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