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Ryan, you need to fast forward past the intro. - Raoul Pop

Raoul, actually, I watched the whole thing. Nonsense. I am so sick of the whole Bush lied, Impeach Bush nonsense. This all stems from the concept that Bush is an illegitimate Presdident and that he stole the election. Complete and utter nonsense. Nothing to see here people, keep moving. - Ryan Petty

I agree. I am tired of the Bush witch hunt, but Bush did bring this on us by not encouraging in depth due process in 2000. I'm not saying Gore was a saint by being a pussy and giving up either..., but all our problems seem to stem from the fact that our leader lacks credibility despite winning the second election. I am sympathetic to the Republicans, but they brought this on themselves and the country. Elections should default to the previous leader if inconclusive. - NoahDavidSimon

Bush wasn't so to speak wrong legally, but a decade later I don't think anyone can deny the fact that we as a country were hurt by this election. The system really failed us. Bush wasn't wrong, we need better laws for this situation. I'm not sure what the answer is, but Bush might of won the revote if he had been given Florida election over again and he might of had a less suspicious foundation... a foundation that would of been stable. again I am sympathetic - NoahDavidSimon

But Noah the whole point of the court case re. FL was that the vote WAS conclusive. Inconclusive would be attempting to count votes that were invalidated by the fact that the card was incorrectly punched; inconclusive would be attempting to figure out which of the two open holes the voter actually meant to punch. Since we cannot "default to the previous leader" we cannot count the invalid votes. I feel sorry for all of these BDS sufferers post-January 20, 2009; I can only hope for their sakes McCain wins. - Craig Eddy

Noah, the system worked as it should have, whether one liked the outcome or not. To me it is nothing short of a miracle that for the past 200+ years we have had a peaceful transition of power. How wonderful is it, that every 4 or 8 years, the most powerful man (person) in the world steps aside and voluntarily gives up power--often to a political opponent. We don't need to default to the previous leader, we need to move on. Whether you are for McCain or Obama, let's just move on... - Ryan Petty

George W. Bush Guilty of Murder! Impeachment Hearing! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Let's not forget about 911, should we let them blow some more buildings up - Geraldine Copywright

I have moved on. I don't think Bush broke the law. My point is the law failed the people and he should of recognized that the confidence of the election had been put into question. Craig Eddy we are still dealing with the repercussions of a failed system here. none the less he won the election four years later because as bad as this failure of the system was it actually hurt the Democratic party more and radicalized America. All this 911 conspiracy stuff is because of this glitch in the gears of justice - NoahDavidSimon

Again... I want to clarify. Bush is not guilty of anything. The election system failed and we need to make sure we have eventualities for future glitches. this witch hunt stuff is just another example of what happens when the system shows flaws like this without changing the laws. No change of power should ever happen like this again. Obviously it wasn't good for Bush either in the long run. If Gore had won a revote, most likely Bush would of won after Gore was Pres. - NoahDavidSimon

If people hate Bush so much why did they re-elect him? There is a cost to freedom! - Gavin

Geraldine why not just drop a whole bunch of Nuclear bombs on all the Muslim countries then we will have nothing to worry about! Oh, might as well drop some nukes on China and North Korea! Oh and Russia may got bad again! You get my point! Who did 9/11??? - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

*sigh* - Hal Rottenberg from twhirl

if we could contain the population IgorTheTroll that idea has been given thought, but most of the populations in the mid-east are partly nomadic. If we bombed Iraq into the stone age they would all end up in Europe and America. There is no way to fight Afghanistan and Iraq like we fought Nazi Germany. Their infrastructure is diffuse and communications technology has helped that way of life. - NoahDavidSimon

Conyers is stoned, or what? As for Bugliosi, he's been working the Hollywood beat far too long. Grandstanding buffoons. - William, CPU Media

Not everyone in Hollywood is shit for brains like Bugliosi http://yweb.com/1w9 - William, CPU Media

The hearing was initiated by Kucinich, the same knucklehead that tried to introduce a bill banning the R&D of, get this, mind control weapons. Way to be taken seriously.http://yweb.com/1zj - William, CPU Media

Lol, Jesse Jackson is one crazy ass mofo. - Andrew Fielding

Keith Olbermann had a good one on Obama and FISA. In case you missed it: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id... - AT

What's next on Obama's agenda over the next four or eight years, after the FISA thing -- inquiring minds want to know. - Sean McBride

Turley had some great words about it on MSNBC last night... in my recent feed. - Anthony Citrano

Jesse doesn't do cowering either. ;) - Oldengrey (Jay)

you're joking, of course - however don't be surprised if you're contacted by secret service for this "threat"... :-) - Andy Green

Anyone who has seen the content of the unwarranted wiretaps has fully supported them.... not saying that makes it right but it does make them necessary. - Aaron deMello

Aaron -- can you document your statement about the content of unwarranted wiretaps? - Sean McBride

Nothing makes them "necessary". What's happening now is exactly the type of oppression the sons of liberty revolted against. - Adam Turetzky

Even if _everyone_ "supported" the wiretaps based on the content, Aaron...the point is that it's not good enough. We have laws. - Ken Kennedy

@Sean McBride - the tricky part is getting into specifics, which I can't. I am in the surveillance biz (or was, rather) and the ugly aspect for law enforcement is that the 'bad guys' (for lack of a better term) are better armed - with PGP, HushMail, stenography, casual SecondLife or Habbo meetups, etc. Makes it almost impossible to trace their convos. For all the $ in the world I would not want the job of an analyst following up on a FISA warrant. - Aaron deMello

@Ken Kennedy - great name, btw - I agree in principle but data is like fishing - you catch it when its there in front of you, or you kiss it goodbye. The sons of liberty have a very hard time trying to find the balance between protecting our rights and exploiting technology for their goals - which protect our way of life. The FISA laws worked well in the past but today - rest assured that the guys we are looking for are far more adept at exploiting the tools than we allow our boys to be. - Aaron deMello

@Aaron...don't take this the wrong way, but spare me. If it's against the law, you kiss it goodbye. You and I both know that the FISA law as (it was at the time) written allows for "catching it when it's there"...it's just more of a pain. It's DESIGNED to be a pain. We're not /supposed/ to be spying on people without warrants. Once upon a time, we (rightly) condemned other countries for doing this. *sigh* - Ken Kennedy

And please, no movie plots. kthx. *grin* And thanks for chatting, btw. Seriously. We need to have these discussions out in the open; it's important for our society. - Ken Kennedy

@Ken Kennedy - sure, they are designed to be a pain. I just don't think its fair that we have to play the very same game under extremely different rules. Should our lofty ideals be preserved in the name of security? That is the question that will be debated for the next few generations but personally I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt to those charged with tackling the problem, rather than us - the peanut gallery. - Aaron deMello

@Aaron...you laid that out rather well, thanks. And we disagree (which is ok) on alot. *grin* Probably the most important difference to me is actually at the end there; the peanut gallery comment. We're not the peanut gallery, Aaron...we are where those "charged with tackling the problem" derive their power from. This is no divine right monarchy; we're a cantankerous republic where the people ultimately run the show. Good questions, though! - Ken Kennedy

OMG, what a dumb-ass thing to do for a seasoned media guy like Jesse. FAIL! - John McCrea

If it was a Republican folks woudl be screaming racism. Apparently Jesse gets a pass. - Soulhuntre from twhirl

Had a flash on Obama and FISA. When he's elected Pres he uses FISA authority to legally eavesdrop on George Dubya Bush without court oversight, Private Citizen and ex-president, and leaks the juiciest bits to Olbermann. Puts him on the terror watch list, and while you're at it puts him in Guantanamo. Gives paparzzi full access. - Dave Winer

@Ken Kennedy - agreed. I believe in the end, perhaps not the means. - Aaron deMello

Aaron: How many terrorists have been convicted of terrorist activities in the United States as the result of warrantless wiretapping? How many cases against alleged terrorists have fallen part? How many times have neoconservatives accused their political opponents of being "terrorists"? How many despotic and state terrorist regimes throughout history have used the threat of "terrorism" to acquire and protect their power? So many interesting questions on this issue. - Sean McBride

@Sean - all those are very interesting questions and there are many more. My sentiment is that we are severely outclassed in the war on terror given all the legal restrictions that are not shared by the enemy. Even the simple act of getting a warrant to expose the phone calls of a unidentified pre-paid SIM card can be a living nightmare. How can one get a warrant when you don't even know if the subscriber is a suspect? These and other complex issues are the ones facing the intelligence community today. - Aaron deMello

Dave, I owe you an apology. I was sure you had made up that comment about what Jesse Jackson said. I think Jesse just threw himself under the bus. When is the last time he was relevant? - Ha3rvey (heavy duty)

I thought the fact that Obama voted for the FISA would be indicative that he was already neutered? - Vidar Andersen

Aaron: history proves that the most dangerous terrorists in the world are state terrorists, like the Nazi, Stalinist and Maoist regimes, which collectively murdered more than 100 million people in the 20th century. State terrorists typically define all their political opponents as "terrorists," and then proceed to spy on them, torture them and murder them without any legal restraints.... more... - Sean McBride

Aaron: If I don't break into your house to find the dismembered bodies, how can I prove that you're an axe murderer? - David Worrell

Aaron: focusing on the first question: to the best of my knowledge, no one has been convicted of being a terrorist or being involved in terrorist activities as a result of warrantless wiretapping. Do you agree? I don't think it's worth trashing the Constitution and Bill of Rights to promote police state methods that were pioneered by Stalin and Hitler and that have produced such meager results. - Sean McBride

Ron: Obama's position on FISA demonstrates that he is politically tone deaf and may well not get elected. What made him a viable candidate was the enthusiasm of his base, which he has now destroyed. Most Americans do not support the FISA bill -- it's not even a "center" issue. It's a hard right neoconservative issue. Check out the discussion of this controversy on On Point Radio today <http://tinyurl.com/6crxv6> and especially note the exchanges between Tom Ashbrook and Glenn Greenwald. - Sean McBride

Ron, respectfully: I don't think it's right to 'play politics' with a bill that undercuts the constitutional balance of power itself. I'll still vote for him. But this makes him just another 'lesser evil' to me. - Madsimian

Dave Winer makes an important point: once a police state machine and culture is installed in any government, it will be used by any political faction that acquires control of it to destroy the political opposition. The American Founding Fathers were acutely aware of this problem, and that is why they created the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights. Bush 43 and the neocons are perhaps... more... - Sean McBride

Harvey, he's relevant to the companies he's shaken down for money and donations for percieved abuses. - Jason Shultz from twhirl

Sean: we will never know the answer to that question, which is the entire purpose of the warrant-less wire-tapping program. The results of the program were never going to be used as evidence, at least not in a public court. Like I said before, there are always challenges in a democracy where the need to balance public safety with personal privacy becomes a very gray area. As to the effectiveness of the program, this is something else we will never know, since we have no idea how many attacks were prevented. - Aaron deMello

Aaron: any totalitarian dictator anywhere in the world, following in the footsteps of Stalin, Hitler and Mao, could use some of the arguments we have seen here to construct a terrorist police state that is completely unaccountable. Neocons like John Yoo, David Addington and Alberto Gonzales really don't get America and the thinking of the American Founding Fathers, in my opinion. They are paranoid authoritarians by temperament who fear a free and open society which encourages political dissent. - Sean McBride

some say Jackson has a point?! not! http://www.slate.com/id... - ~C4Chaos

Sean: Paranoia does play a part in it, and some paranoia can be healthy. At the same time, I'd rather have hawks than doves protecting my freedoms, and will grant them the wiggle room necessary to do what they feel must be done. What did you think of the voting numbers? 69 to 28? - Aaron deMello

Aaron: any political movement which thinks nothing of trashing the Constitution, while labeling its mainstream American political opponents as "terrorists" and "traitors" (yes, the neocons have done this repeatedly -- check out the log of these events on Media Matters for America), is only interested in destroying our freedoms, not protecting them. The neocons are the last people in the... more... - Sean McBride

As has been pointed out to me, it's not the fault of the telcos that Bush and company failed to get the necessary warrants (which they can legally do after the fact). So there's good reason to protect the telcos from civil trials. Remember, it was Bush who broke the law. Don't make this about Obama. He didn't violate the 4th Amendment. That was the President, who's sworn to protect and uphold the Constitution. - phil.gs

Based on the FISA vote, there's nothing to cut. - Michael Markman

speaking of FISA, according to Lessig, "Obama has not shifted in his opposition to immunity for telcos" check it out http://lessig.org/blog... - ~C4Chaos

Even if one doesn't want to be like this Mike, your idea of participation premium bringing more people/perspective into your life can be an enriching learning experience for anyone. Just started Friendfeed and it does make that participation easier for this ordinary Jane. It's almost time to share it with all my friends and family but the selling point for them is ease of participation not wanting to be followed by scads of peeps so much. - Boo

"The Participation Premium" - I like that. I told a co-worker the other day that FriendFeed is like discovering a place where the cool AND smart AND talented people hang out. - Ha3rvey (heavy duty)

Scoble you do talk about FriendFeed a whole lot more than Arrington does which might be a reason why you have more followers. Also is there not a FriendFeed plugin for WordPress yet? I saw Allen Stern has FriendFeed comments showing up right after his blog posts. I would expect you of all people to have this functionality on Scobleizer. We need to get someone to build a plugin for WordPress now! - Ben Kessler

Great post. Arrington tends to use FF as a broadcast medium where you use it as a two-way conversation medium. Engaging in a conversation is more appealing than just reading what someone is doing online. - Kevin Bondelli

I'm trying to say this without sounding like a complete groupie, but here goes: Robert, you (yes, "you") actually communicate with people on FriendFeed. It's not just, "Here's my cool new camera." or "Here I am at Davos." etc. It's actual, honest-to-goodness two-way communication. I think that makes the difference. - Ha3rvey (heavy duty)

Thanks Harvey and Kevin! - Robert Scoble

Well said Harvey! Really well said :) - directeur from NoiseRiver

I have another take on it. I think it is because you are more of an evangelist for FriendFeed. You influence more people to come into the service because you state its case so well (and frequently). And, FriendFeed has little value when you are the "first" of your circle to get in. So, the natural thing to do is make sure subscribe and closely follow Scoble.I don't mean to discount the... more... - John Trainor

This is sooooo true. When people realize it, they'll enjoy and learn from twitter (and Friendfeed) ten times more over time - Charlie Anzman

Robert: Thank you for this post - you nailed it! Let's talk about not only participation but also evangelism of FriendFeed service ;-) Some of the "A-Listers" barely even use FF let alone participate in it. You've gone way beyond that standard by actively engaging your growing audience... impressive! I followed you on Twitter as a mere follower / acquaintance along with the masses, but it wasn't until FF that we became conversant / friends. Thanks! - Susan Beebe

Great post, Robert. As with anything else, you get what you put into it. - David Risley

Much like I wrote back in May to participate... http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Louis Gray

We are busy at fragmenting our identities, thoughts, relationships all over the net. FF makes meaning of this fragmentation - Peter Efland

Good study! - Ariel Waldman

Link is down now, but I saw it a couple hours ago. Basically it's about increasing one's own 'brand' or 'value' within a community by participating in conversations. Robert knows his audience and knows how to effectively engage with them. edit: link was posted in an earlier comment in FF - Franklin Naval

Franklin: it's at http://scobleizer.com/2008... -- TinyURL is having some troubles right now. - Robert Scoble

Hum... The purpose? the use? :) - directeur from NoiseRiver

Next: car mounted version - Ken Sheppardson

Awesome flamethrower! - Mitchell Tsai

Got to love diy flame throwers - Czar

Directuer, this is part of urban warfare and survival tactics training. Maybe this kid got his hands /idea from the some army guy or he just did it for kicks :)- - Peter Dawson

Somehow, I'm reminded of this joke: What does a redneck say before he dies? "Hey y'all watch this!" - Hutch Carpenter

That's hot! - Adam Lasnik

Hutch, you had me chuckling out loud there. ;) - Mathew A. Koeneker

the words homemade and flamethrower don't fare well in my prognosticating abilities - Cee Bee

me and the ground hog would get along great w/ that. - clarke thomas

Need one of these for weeds. - Larry Huffman

Great addition to one's zombie defense arsenal, that's for sure. - Ken Sheppardson

w o w - JA Castillo

please be careful man - Jason Calacanis

that's like a... real life rocketeer. RAD - Mona Nomura

s'mores? - Frankie Warren

@Blackopsmanners have to totally awesome and speed up darwinism just a bit - Justin Yost

OMG.. what's the opposite of a Fireman? heh - Daynah

http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Sean-Michael Robinson

I love it! - mjc

OMG.... Will come in handy for when those flesh-eating zombies try to take over... - Yule Heibel

My brother used to use hairspray and a lighter ...don't show him this!! hehehe! (LOL @ Hutch's comment above - awesome!!) - Susan Beebe

Oh boy! - Nicholas Kreidberg

OMG I must have that. - Jason Runyan

Perfect gift for the troll who has everything. - Dave Winer

And if this guy blows himself up, we can all pay for his lifelong medical rehabilitation via insurance premiums. - Sal DiStefano

My sister's boyfriend would LOVE this. He's just the type of guy who likes to build crazy, stupid things - David Adam

amazon, sell this now. haha. - mjc from Alert Thingy

You can take my flamethrower when you pry it from my hot, dead hands. - Jim Norris

I live in Northern Cal, we have enough fire thank you very much! - Barb Gonzalez

There is a much simpler and cheaper way of making a flamethrower: http://youtube.com/watch... - Thai Tran

Cool toy! But be careful man. - Jeff P. Henderson

exactly who needs a homemade flamethrower? - Paul Moss from Alert Thingy

Whoa. Judging from the aim on the second pic, those tree's probably are toast by now. - Franklin Naval

nice work idiot - ben rogers from twhirl

The hotness, literally. - David Cancel

this is fantastic - long live This Guy so my pyro bend can continue vicariously through his efforts (realizing, of course, that he may already be dead) - Nate

Your right... They are default. - Czar

Come on Allen, you already posted this story. http://www.centernetworks.com/robert-... This is just linkbaiting. - Mark Trapp

Mark - this is completely different. The one you linked to discusses the right panel that's not a default so-to-speak. This analysis today is based on the defaults that FF is providing to 9 people. It's not the same and I don't believe in linkbaiting. - Allen Stern

This is important and should be fixed. The decision was probably made to help entice A-listers to the service, but that's no longer necessary. Thanks, Allen. - Sprague D

The real problem is these services are really lame if you have no friends. This was an attempt to fix that problem. I agree though that FF should only recommend participants on the first few screens. If you aren't participating why would FF want to feature you? - Robert Scoble

Great video -- and yea definitely not the same post. I would see this an expansion into the topic and showing the results of tracking the patterns of a new user signup experience... - Gary Bacon II

i´m just subscribed to robert - for me the other 8 people have no value in their content and i wondered all the time why they are there... but robert should be default ;) - Dieter Schwarz

Robert's point is fair. The defaults shouldn't be a random selection of users, but a few of the most dedicated participants. I look forward to seeing edythe replace Arrington. ;-) - Sprague D

Great post Allen, FF is also VERY susceptible to bots doing mass adding. I haven't really seen any one take advantage of this yet. Then again, its not easy to see a users followers/following stats. - sean percival

i only saw this as a problem if you tend to be a sheep and just subscribe because a service recommends someone vs default which to me implies they auto subscribed you when you start which they did not, i'm only subscribed to a few of these 9 folks, very similar to who i've sub'd to in other services - this seem a bit of a mountain out of a mole hill to me folks - mike "glemak" dunn

Great job on researching. I definitely realized that FF was not nearly doing the job Facebook does when looking for friends you may know or recommendations. - Adam Helweh

This isn't cool. In my book, this is kissing up to the big guys so they'll talk about you and get you exposure. Whether they know it or not still doesn't make it okay. - Raoul Pop

@mike, if you want to know why what is presented to the "sheep" is important, check out Chris's reference to "herding". Chris, if they want to become mainstream they need to change the target of their marketing from "fast followers" to common users, who would also like the chance at building an audience. A good way to do that would be by randomly presenting dedicated users. - Sprague D

I thought this might be the way for FriendFeed to gain popularity as well. Get some of the most active internet peeps on Friend Feed, make them feel that their subscribers are coming in droves, and the rest will follow. Yes, no? - Adam Helweh

Paul: I actually agree. Who is following you is not important. Who you are following is VERY important. I'm following about 3,000 people right now on FriendFeed, all hand added (I just added you for making a good point). - Robert Scoble

Raoul: when I joined FriendFeed I wasn't on the list. I moved up the list because I brought a lot of people into FriendFeed from my popular Twitter and blog. Live isn't fair sometimes. You might notice that FriendFeed is at the top of TechMeme right now and that FriendFeed is growing very rapidly. But I'm writing a blot post about the "Participation Premium." If life is unfair, why are 5,000 more people following me than Mike Arrington? After all, his blog is more popular than mine is... - Robert Scoble

paul: excellent comment - mike "glemak" dunn

But Robert, why are that many people following him at all when until recently he didn't even participate here other than posting his feeds? - Cyndy

Robert: people follow you because you follow them and pass along the conversations so others can enjoy too. Mike A. doesn't include everyone.. - LPH™ and his dog P™

It's not the same 9 people everytime. It depends on who you subscribe to. There is a short list of prominent people on FF that get recommended, but in order for them to be recommended they have to be a contact of one of your existing contacts. The list is in alphabetical order by first name. If you don't have any contacts FF won't recommend anyone to you. - Thomas Hawk

Thomas: not true. I just signed up a new account and it recommended users to me. - Robert Scoble

cyndy: ff primarily is a very valid presence aggregater - whether someone then chooses to interact in ff via comment/like is secondary to me - mike "glemak" dunn

Thomas is referring to the "Recommended" link on the friend settings tab; Allen's video is about the sign up process. - Sprague D

The Participation Premium: http://tinyurl.com/6elnjf - Robert Scoble

You may be interested in a little personal research I've done to find out the social weight of FF users and the number of followers: http://user21.com/2008... - Yuval Atzmon

I'd call these defaults an excellent marketing campaign from FF's standpoint. Those default FF users pretty much represent the same echo-chamber 'attractors' in the technology/web space. I think it's a little disingenuous when you ask how those people became popular FF users. It's obviously a well calculated way to market to the major technology attractors; or was that comment meant to be tongue in cheek? - Jim McCusker

hmmm Robert, I signed up a new account as well and found that under the "Recommended" link it wouldn't recommend anyone to me unless I first added at least one person as a contact. - Thomas Hawk

Thomas - what I am discussing is the people you are presented with when you create a brand new account - not on the right side - Allen Stern

Thomas, check out Allen's video, it's cool. - Sprague D

@atzmon, your list ranking users by #subscribers shows (for the top 10) almost perfect correlation with the "defaults" presented to new users. If Allen needed any more proof of his thesis, there it is. - Sprague D

fail bird http://www.seanpercival.com/blog... - sean percival

So........ why is it a big deal to have so many followers on FF? Is it worth it? Is it beneficial? Why is everyone trying to have so many followers? - ChaCha Fance from Alert Thingy

Why do all the interesting posts seem to happen on Sunday when I've got family things to do?! I appreciate the recommend list because I'm relatively new to all of this. Scoble and Lois Gray are a good "in" to all of the noise (good human filters). - James Hull

@James, I think Allen's original motive for posting was that there are *many* excellent "human filters" available here, but because of a marketing decision by FF, only a certain few are provided as default recommendations when new users sign up. - Sprague D

My main complaint with your video is that you printed out the pages from FriendFeed. Who uses printers anymore? Couldn't you have taken screen grabs? - Ben Kessler

I wonder if they will make the suggested changes - and if that would help people find new folks to follow. - Eric

I want a twitter that works :) - directeur from NoiseRiver

Tweetdeck is very nice. Breaking tweets out into @ replies and groups makes sense. Pretty, too. - Leo Laporte

Excellent! I'm just not that into all the dark gray. - kennbell

'scuse me while i wipe up this drool, but that looks hot! - Sarah Perez

This is very nice. Love the grouping feature. Makes it a lot easier to follow tweets. - Dave Rutter

ok, see that got all screwed up just now, had to delete & start over. - Melissa Davis from twhirl

so what I meant to say was, I like tweetdeck for trying to improve on apps like twirl or twitterific for that matter, but I'd still love to see some über combination of tweetdeck & twirl that lets you group, customize color in UI, post using ping.fm and receive more than just tweets like FF does - not so much a firehose but more like a spiffy detachable shower head w/the different dial settings. Come to Mamma! - Melissa Davis from twhirl

Checking it out now, thanks Louis! - Daniel Smith from twhirl

Nice that you can keep twittering even when Twitter is down. Categories/groups/tags is clearly a direction Twitter user needs are heading. Also need an app, though, that can handle multiple Twitter accounts. I tried Twhirl but after a while kept getting timeouts on the 2nd open account. Maybe that's Twitter's fault, not Twhirl's. - Gordon Vaughan

I still wonder why all of these apps default with a dark background. - Caleb Elston

Just saw it with my 9-y-o daughter. Animation was amazing and it was visually attractive. Story was cute, but not great. I think that Monsters Inc., the Incredibles and even Toy Story had better writing. Most interesting thing to me was that more than half the people in the theater were adults with no children. Definitely a bit of a geeky crowd, different than you might expect for a Disney/Pixar flick. All that said, Nice. Now all I need is a blackberry version (that also handles friendfeed) :) - Barry Graubart from twhirl

Using it .. nice. Try clicking on the photo. Looks like most of us need to go higher rez! - Charlie Anzman

pretty slick...just not picking up all my twitter friends though for some reason. - Zee.

Very nice and still very-very buggy (Air Linux) - Czar

I would rather pay for Flickr than put my photos on Facebook to be fodder for advertisers. - Andrew Feinberg

Are there any other Twitter services/apps with the Grouping functionality? Really loving that. - Bryan Landers

looks excellent. love the "maximized view" for real twitter addicts. though I can't imagine there are many left that are addicted, since, well, you know. can't really be addicted to twitter when it's down all the time - Mark Bao

Thanks! I'll check it out over the next few days! - Soulhuntre from twhirl

This is lovely. Funny how some really nice apps sneak up on you. Thanks for linking! - mark.kemperman from feedalizr

nice but I doubt it fits the workflow now that twitter is a tiny bit of it - Dobromir Hadzhiev

thanks Louis, very cool app, what do you think of the group service? - John Cass from Alert Thingy

thanks bwana! - Tyler Gillies

awesome! just what I needed. - Nicholi from twhirl

Anyone have an invite for ping? - Yolanda

Yolanda, use the beta code "pingyoulater" - Bwana ☠

n/p - Ⓒⓗⓡⓘⓢ Ⓟⓘⓡⓘⓛⓛⓞ

dude, you forgot the link. :) - Todd Jordan

Thanks for posting about Mail2FF. Awesome use of an API! - BRҰANSAҰS from twhirl

Todd: http://www.mail2ff.com/ - Daniel Smith

Mail2FF looks like a winner. - Dean Barnett

just need to add a macro for myself - Todd Jordan

Haven't been able to get it to work for me. Mail bounces. Me = bummed. Just using Posterous instead. Very cool. - Ken Sheppardson

is it the new buzz? - Burcu Dogan

what is Mail2FF? - Grant from twhirl

why won't Mail 2FF work on emails via cell phone... that's the whole idea, isn't it? remote and mobile access??? - Metin