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"You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to recognize that a series of decisions and events have transpired to put Goldman at the top of the heap. Well before the credit crisis, people worried about Goldman's influence in the markets. Several former executives of the investment bank have senior roles in government and at the New York Stock Exchange, and its analysts are among the most powerful in the space." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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Jim Cramer: Time to get out of stocks | Today Show
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“I thought about this all weekend,” Cramer told Curry. “I do not want to say these things on TV. Whatever money you may need for the next five years, please take it out of the stock market right now, this week. I do not believe that you should risk those assets in the stock market right now.” [I don't listen to Cramer, he's a tool; but a lot of other people do.] - Anthony Citrano
I'm really surprised at this advice. Does he actually think that the stock market is only going to go down for the next five years? That's the only reason I can think of for getting everything out now. Or am I missing something? - Kenton via Posty
He has a point...if you NEED the money within the next 3-5 years, then you probably shouldn't have it in the market right now...then again you probably shouldn't have put the money in the market in the first place if that was your time horizon for needing it. - Alex "Maverick" Scoble
I agree with you Anthony but he's right about this. If you'll need the money, it's better to take the loss now because i believe it's likely to get far worse from here. - ·[▪_▪]·
Seriously, now? Buy high, sell low? - Mike Reynolds
Kenton, hate saying it, but yes, you're missing something. Stroll through my feed if you want a lot more of my personal thoughts on the matter. Also, Alex puts it well, above. And @Mike: on time frames that short, it's either sell low or sell lower. - Anthony Citrano
If you need this advice from Cramer you shouldn't have been in the market to begin with. Full disclosure: I know I don't belong in the market, it's a rich man's game. - Jason Wehmhoener
i wonder if a sizable portion of his followers are around retirement age. if yes, this might be pretty good advice. if most of his viewers are <50 this could be some poor advice. - MikeAmundsen
amend by last comment. expense for your kids' college years might also be an issue. - MikeAmundsen
Alex I think you're dead on. Too many people think that you can get rich quick in the markets even if you have no clue about what you are doing. I think it also goes hand-in-hand with Jason's comments. - Kenton via Posty
The point was a need for those assets in the short term. If you're in the market for any period beyond the next 5-10 years you'd be crazy to cash out now. - Kevin Cearns
Invest in stocks for the long term (5+ years), and have cash on hand for short term - you could look on this as the oft recommended "emergency fund" of 3 - 6 months' cash. Makes sense to me. - Jason Kaneshiro
If you need the money within 5 years, it SHOULD NOT have been in stocks in the first place. Cramer's advice comes a bit belated. - Morton Fox
@Morton - yeah, but most people don't know that, sorta like with real estate. I can't tell you how many sheeple asked me why I wasn't buying real estate from 2003-2007... they simply couldn't understand. "they're not making any more real estate," they'd say. - Anthony Citrano
I'm not necessarily arguing against this particular piece of advice, but keep in mind that "Jim Cramer's accuracy in forecasting overall stock market behavior is just below average" (http://www.cxoadvisory.com/gur...) - Alan Cheslow
@Anthony - yep, long term trend is real estate barely keeps up with inflation. The past ten years were an anomaly. I think we're seeing the stock market changing as well, from the sure thing of the 90s to the long, horizontal slide of the 70s. - Jason Kaneshiro
He is crazy, how he could say something like it? Panic selling is not the best moment to sell IMHO - Luca Conti
Luca, like I said, he's a tool; but he *is* right - who is keeping money in the market if they need it short-term? Only idiots. - Anthony Citrano
You are right Anthony, but five years is not short terms in financial terms and I think that in this time all the market will recover this crisis - Luca Conti
The only cool thing about Cramer is he admits when he's wrong, which unfortunately seems to be the case a lot lately. I respect the guy and his past performance but you know what they say about past performance.... :) - Charlie Anzman
Luca - at this point, we will need a 50-60% rise in global markets to simply *break even*. You think we'll see that in the near term? I hope you're right, but as most of you know, I doubt it. - Anthony Citrano
Hmmm... I just looked at the history of the DOW. From 1935 to 1985 it went up fairly consistently about 5.2% per year. If it had continued that trend from 1985 until now, it would be around 4268. Does this mean the market has been overvalued for the last 23 years? - Alan Cheslow
the more i look at this the more irresponsible his comments seem. the media & uninformed bloggers have already made people panicky. this isn't helping. - Faboo Mama
@Alan. That's the theory. Starts with Michael Milken's junk bonds that financed leveraged buyouts out of thin air. Continues with prices paid even today for tech companies that have no hope of ever making a profit. - Mark VandenBerg
Faboo: a Harvard Economist is who keyed me into how bad the economy is. Everything I see in the Economist and Wall Street Journal backs him up. Where are YOU getting your optimism? Please provide sources. That seems to be irresponsible too if you can't provide sources that the economy is going to be just fine. Who? President Bush? Rrrrriiiigggghhhhttttt. - Robert Scoble
History shows the economy will be fine. This gloom and doom nonsense is really starting to sound like talking points. - Spencer Scott
I think people are missing the point... maybe you've HAD your money in stocks for a while and were planning on using the returns on the investment in the next few years... if that's the case he's suggesting you should get out while you have the chance. No one would be stupid enough to put money in and expect to have it grow in the short term at this point, I think. But if you're in it for the long term in a few months might be a good time to buy. - Lindsay Donaghe
Spencer: yeah, history always evens things out. If all hell breaks loose I'll just go sit on the beach in Half Moon Bay with a bottle of wine. :-) - Robert Scoble
it's all about horizons, people. near-term, things will stink (several years out). long term, it will sort out fine. imho, we've been running on fumes for *decades* (Reagan era) debt continued to rise w/ very little behind it. we don't produce *squat* anymore. commercial paper was the only thing keeping us going day-to-day. now that's flopped. this w/ hurt, but it will pass. - MikeAmundsen
cramer is a moron - Ryan
+1 Ryan - Jim Goldstein
@Faboo just be careful not to lump people together. There are informed media/bloggers and uninformed media/bloggers. Check track records, etc. - Anthony Citrano
keeping funds you may need within the next five years in cash has always been what you should do. 5 years is just not a long enough horizon to put it at risk. i stopped watching CNBC when i realized that it was as valuable to me as a financial professional as MTV. I listen to Bloomberg radio via their website during the day instead. - Mark Foundos
@Mark - exactly (and what I kept saying, too: short term dough shouldn't have been there in the first place.) - Anthony Citrano
Cramer has called 14 bottoms before this, don't believe this guy his performance sucks. - adolfo foronda
@Alan: the last 25 years saw the dawning and maturing of the information age--namely the internet--that revolutionized bellwether companies and created a whole new tier of wealth for many of us, perhaps many on this feed ;). That skewed the chart a bit to the positive side. My contention has been that the market was TOO positive on the halo effect of the internet and it caused a great deal of irrationality in wall street valuations. Trace how the dominoes have fallen and you can see that it goes [cont.] - grant
...to Reaganomics, deregulation in the 80s, Greenspan being too liberal with the rates for the wrong reasons, and of course greed. YMMV but that's my story and I'm stickin to it. - grant
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"We do not live in a Constitutional Republic. At this point, we do not even live in a totalitarian democracy, as the overwhelming majority of constituents were vehemently opposed to this trillion-dollar boondoggle. At best, we are living in a mild form of corporate socialism with a ruling oligarchy that is completely unresponsive to the people." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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"Half of the world's mammals are declining in population and more than a third probably face extinction, according to a report by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN)." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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“What non-tech, non-mainstream, not uber popular blogs do you read? I need to add some weekend reading to my reader repertoire.”
yesterday at 11:54 am - Link
Car, game, Eco, architecture blogs, sites and RL mags - Eric Rice
I need links man, not categories. :) - Erica Baker
What Erica said! :) And I'd also love FF streams that fit the same criteria. - Adam Lasnik
Nabokov.Offline. - Igor Poltavskiy
For sports, check out any of the many from SportsBlogs Nation at www.sbnation.com. - Louis Gray
Not sure if these meet all 3 criteria, but a few from my reader include: http://tacticalphilanthropy.co... , http://sf.eater.com/ , http://www.nextbillion.net/ , (I'm assuming that the various AptTherapy blogs are in the popular category), and then number of foodie blogs (there have been a few great rundowns of those on FF already, here's one: http://friendfeed.com/e/44f002... ) - Casey
Oh, and slightly off-topic but related practice, take a few minutes to check out the http://www.kcrw.com/ site and podcasts, fantastic station out of Santa Monica, CA -- interesting mix of music, design, politics / current events, humor/observations, etc. Definitely habit-forming. - Casey
polizeros.com - ultimatejosh via twhirl
poplicks.com - Faboo Mama
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"The seamless integration of the military and law enforcement into a single "Internal Security Force" is the defining characteristic of a fully realized police state. Once this fusion is accomplished, the question becomes not "whether" a police state exists, but rather how acute its institutional violence against the subject population will become. That condition now exists in the country that still calls itself – without any apparent irony – the United States of America." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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"Americans are being held hostage by their government. The government is rubbing sand in their faces and defying them, both on Iraq and on its financial measures. The government is overstepping its bounds so egregiously that it is arousing even passive Americans to action. It is only a matter of time before they rise up and cast off their bonds." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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"The radical libertarian view of the state as a gang of criminals will no longer be a hard sell. It is now apparent to any honest and thinking person not blinded by being on the dole that the corporate state is a bunch of criminals, degenerates, and hoodlums. They just pulled off the biggest armed robbery in human history right before our eyes. Worse yet, it can no longer be denied that these thugs steal from the poor and give to the rich!" - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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“question: current polling suggests a possible sweep of both the house and senate by the democrats come Nov. Now supposing that McCain does get the top job would he be able to be held in check by congress in this situation? just curious”
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Yeah, he would. The little amount of legislation that got passed in 2006-2008 is a sign of what would be the case for 2008-2010. Congress still wouldn't have a veto-proof majority (it's looking like 52 or 54 Democrat seats in the senate, and 60% Democrat in the house, you need 2/3 majority to override a presidential veto), so they'd be cock-blocked by the president in turn. The problem is that the president, in most cases, has political capital to shape policy for the country, and controls large portions of the government that aren't in check by the Congress short of things like impeachment. - Mark Trapp
This will be our only savior of McCain actually gets elected. - Jeff P. Henderson
The president has 5 major powers that don't really need Congressional approval (mostly after the fact, if at all): the power to command the armed forces into armed conflict, the power to make and break treaties and diplomatic agreements, the power to appoint a huge deal of federal positions, the power to shape the agenda for Congress (including the budget), and the power to shape the agenda for his party. If the president is in good standing with the party, he can have a tremendous ability to block legislation by having Republicans threaten a filibuster in the Senate, which effectively tables bills. A president, even without the support of Congress, can really do a lot of damage. - Mark Trapp
McCain would likely follow Bush's history of unilaterally declaring executive orders (http://tinyurl.com/3zkoea) and signing statements (http://tinyurl.com/3z2gku), and it would not be surprising if he abused those tools even worse than his predecessors. - Alan Cheslow
For instance, HR5122 essentially negated Posse Comitatus. It was later repealed, but Bush issued a signing statement indicating that he didn't feel that he was bound to that repeal. In other words, he unilaterally decided that Posse Comitatus does not apply to him. - Alan Cheslow
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A Brief Introduction to the Seasteading Institute | Seasteading Institute
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"“Seasteading” means to homesteading the high seas. In other words, build permanent dwellings on the ocean. A seastead is a structure specifically designed for the purpose of long-term living in the marine environment.Why seastead? In the short-run, for political freedom and the thrill of pioneering. In the long run, to create a laboratory for innovation in social and political systems. In neither case is any particular ideology necessary: seasteads will empower people with a wide variety of beliefs to experience self-government and serve as examples (good and bad) for future systems. Other advantages include utilizing barren portions of the earth’s surface and preparing for colonization of other planets." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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Army combat unit to deploy within U.S. - CNN.com
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""We need a lot more in our toolbox in order to deal with angry people on the street," said Col. Barry Johnson of U.S. Army North." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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"The Army on Monday will unveil an unprecedented doctrine that declares nation-building missions will probably become more important than conventional warfare and defines "fragile states" that breed crime, terrorism and religious and ethnic strife as the greatest threat to U.S. national security. The doctrine, which has generated intense debate in the U.S. military establishment and government, holds that in coming years, American troops are not likely to engage in major ground combat against hostile states as they did in Iraq and Afghanistan, but instead will frequently be called upon to operate in lawless areas to safeguard populations and rebuild countries." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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"A decisive military victory in Afghanistan is impossible and the Taliban may have to be part of a long-term solution for the country, a senior British commander in Afghanistan has said. "We're not going to win this war," Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith was quoted as saying in a British newspaper, published on Sunday." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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Krugman: Edge of the Abyss | New York Times
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"The financial system has been under severe stress for more than a year, and there should have been carefully thought-out contingency plans ready to roll out in case the markets melted down. Obviously, there weren’t: the Paulson plan was clearly drawn up in haste and confusion. And Treasury officials have yet to offer any clear explanation of how the plan is supposed to work, probably because they themselves have no idea what they’re doing." - Anthony Citrano
mr. krugman's writing was not exactly pointing this stuff out - Gregory Lent
Yep.. Krugman, to me, is an excellent observer but not a predictor. - Anthony Citrano
The interesting thing is this isn't the first large chunk of money thrown at this problem. The Fed has tried unsuccessfully to stave off panic with more than $400 million of cash and securities into the credit markets in the past year. It hasn't worked and many wonder if this will work. The real story, which is only starting to get reported, is the $55 trillion worth of credit default swaps out there - more than the world's combined GDP. Fortune has a great article on this. http://tinyurl.com/48qxd6 - Al Stevens
@Al - very true. I, for one, don't wonder if it's going to work; it's not. But I am well in the minority. - Anthony Citrano
the money is not the problem, the structure of the financial system is not the problem ... these are symptoms only ... and solutions don't "work" because treating symptoms doesn't work ... the cause is something much more fundamental ... it is in the very fabric of the american mind, of american self-concepts, in the face in the mirror and what it thinks is important ... which is why it must get worse, to get all the way down to the root ... obama is not enough, either, but that is an aside - Gregory Lent
I think he's off on several points. Here's one: everyone parrots the line "there is growing evidence that businesses are having trouble getting credit" without ever showing the evidence. According to the Fed (http://www.cato.org/pub_displa...), lending is *up* 15.5% since this time last year. I think the truth is that 1) lending is shifting from big national banks to smaller local ones; and 2) the few businesses who can't get lending from even the small local banks probably present too big of a risk and shouldn't be extended credit. - Alan Cheslow
I very very much hope you're right, Alan. Two things - those Fed numbers are likely trailing, and some of the more grave problems in CP and short-term paper have developed in very recent weeks and even days. Also, think through where most of the local banks have parked their own reserves. - Anthony Citrano
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"The bright line ban on using the U.S. military as a standing law enforcement force inside the U.S. has been more or less honored -- until now. And as the Army Times notes, once this particular brigade completes its one-year assignment, "expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one."" - Louis Gray via Bookmarklet
The term Homeland is disturbing. - Christopher Welle
Yeah, posted about this earlier n the week. They went active October 1st in Fort Jackson GA. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
Christopher, I still cringe when I hear it. - £ogical €xtremes
Where is the "Don't Like" button? - Keith Pelczarski
Bush doesn't think Posse Comitatus pertains to him - Alan Cheslow
I wonder if the extra troops are to "protect" the country since we're in a vulnerable state? - Susan Beebe
first meeting takes place on oct. 14th. ha - Cee Bee
Susan, the troops are there to protect the Government. Thats it. - Christopher Welle
mmmm - Susan Beebe
troops at home? It's a slide along the gradient to a police state - Shawn Hildebrandt
Here is a What if: What if the bush administration saw the economic crash coming. Did nothing to fix it, but decided to bring in troops to protect "whatever" for just in case. Now that they are here what if something else happens, is the first instinct of the administration to release the troops on the citizens? - Christopher Welle
One more step towards a dictatorship... - scott willeke
Was it also bad when Eisenhower deployed the 101st Airborne to protect the Little Rock 9 in 1957? - Gabe
Hmm, while not particularly into extreme conspiracy theories, this is one step necessary prior to declaring martial law (well, technically - and apparently previously - the first step AFTER declaring martial law). October Surprise, anyone? - Shout out 2Jody
As anyone who has worn the uniform is aware this is an issue related to Posse Comitatus. Something in the rushed tons of homeland security legislation no doubt provides for an exception to the Act. http://bit.ly/2sslbc - Dave Martin
Wow, I think I've figured it out... Some of the current administration's biggest troubles seem related to anything Latin-sounding... trias politica, posse comitatus, habeus corpus. There's definitely a pattern here. - £ogical €xtremes
All the pieces are being assembled to create a permanent neoconservative dictatorship and police state. The neocons have been systematically defining all their political opponents as "terrorists" and "traitors." Homeland = fascist fatherland. That's the clear intonation. - Sean McBride
Break out the tinfoil hats. - Brian Newman
Seven Days in May - Kevin Johnson
Logical, don't forget reductio ad absurdum ;-) - Karim
As a former Marine, I have seen an increasing trend over the past decades to use the military as the world's police force. I'm not sure that has been a wonderful strategy, but I see some validity there. This is a little concerning, however. I must say, the Bush administration's perpetual use of fear to push its agenda has really drained me - and what's worse is we continue to hand off our freedoms to others in favor of letting them make our decisions. I'm not a real fan of socialism... - ChangeForge | Ken Stewart
Ken, this is hardly socialism. Dictatorship comes much closer to the mark. - Shout out 2Jody
We need to take back the constitution. Join the fight at http://CampaignForLiberty.com - Alan Cheslow
People, I swore an oath to obey the orders of the Officers appointed above me and I know orders are given from the top (government) all the way down... but to say that the administration is going to "release the troops on the citizens"...don't you think that's a little crazy? We live here, have a home here and willingly joined the U.S. Military to protect our country and the people who live in it. Do you really think we're going to turn around and attack ourselves from within? Come on! I'm not going to publicly support and defend anything my superiors have done or said in the past, but I would like to believe we're not that stupid. - David Cook
The paranoia among some groups is scary. - Glen Campbell
David Cook -- in my estimation, some factions within the neoconservative movement are in fact stupid enough, and fanatical enough, to try to use the American military to attack American citizens within the United States of America. They have been telegraphing their intentions loudly for years. - Sean McBride
"Do you really think we're going to turn around and attack ourselves from within?" When your commanding officer puts a gun to your head and says do it or die, will you choose death over saving the life of your fellow American in front of you? History has proven in a majority of cases you and others will choose to live another day and go home to your family. - Adam Turetzky
No, the army won't attack innocent civilians but they will attack those who they are told are "terrorists", "insurgents", and "rioters" -- and guess who gets to define the meanings of those words? - Alan Cheslow
@David - didn't you also swear an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic"? And yet many people have reasonably argued that Bush is a domestic enemy of the Constitution. But rather than arrest him, the military continues to follow him. So why shouldn't we believe that the military would continue to follow him when he orders them to move against American citizens that he considers to be "terrorists"? - Alan Cheslow
Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H... - Alan Cheslow
Military Commissions Act of 2006 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M... - Alan Cheslow
You know, if you combine this news with Rex 84 and FEMA internment camps, you get an interesting bit of conspiracy theory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R... - J·Phil·Glockner
John Warner National Defense Authorization Act - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H... - Alan Cheslow
Readiness Exercise 1984 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R... - Alan Cheslow
Alan Cheslow -- thanks for the important Wikipedia links. - Sean McBride
Ok, I'm not going to go back and forth on this but I will say one thing...if you riot (not protest) what do you expect to happen to you? Police agencies throughout the world have riot gear and handle things aggressively when aggression is needed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R... I'm not debating that I wouldn't handle threats as my rules of engagement show necessary...I'm saying that the quote "release the troops on the citizens" and people who see their own country's military as a threat against their own country is ridiculous. However...Alan C. you do make some good points to support your theory and I respect that. - David Cook
FEMA internment camps? That's quite a conspiracy theory. - Gabe
historically, rioting has been a very effective vehicle for changing governments ... charing cross (london) saw the beheading of a king ... governments want to stay in business, they will create any spin possible in order to do so ... david cook, military people are trained not to think for themselves, so your points don't sit well with me ... colin powell, yes-man as example - Gregory Lent
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Police Union Shirt Pokes Fun At DNC Protesters - Denver News Story - KMGH Denver
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"The Denver police union is selling T-shirts that poke fun at protesters at last month's Democratic National Convention, but the main target isn't laughing." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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from my christian brother, who will vote for mccain ..... "The long-term answer isn't more federal control, it's a return to free-market principles," Heritage Foundation President Ed Feulner wrote in his weekly column before the House voted Sept. 29 against the $700 billion deal struck by congressional leaders and the White House. "Faced with a crisis of this scale," Heritage's Stuart Butler and Edwin Meese argued, "lawmakers need to consider steps that would be out of the question in more normal times. That is why Congress must structure a recovery plan that involves an extraordinary taxpayer commitment to stabilizing the situation and restoring confidence in the financial system." - Gregory Lent via Bookmarklet
Agreeing with that article and voting for McCain seem mutually exclusive to me, what's his rational there? I'd think he'd be more interested in Barr or Baldwin? - Alan Cheslow
a bad choice for a "christian" is better than no choice at all? dunno ... patriotism and religion get mixed up in odd ways ... probably the best lesson for me is i cannot paint anybody, or group, with a broad brush .. - Gregory Lent
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"Discover why experts agree the Fed is a banking cartel that benefits mainly bankers and their corporate clients as well as a Congress that would rather unilaterally increase the national debt than ask citizens how THEY would like to see tax revenues allocated. Find out how the media facilitates the partnership between the Fed and Congress and why it fails to fully disclose what's going on. Lastly, find out how the Federal Reserve Member Banks are owned and controlled by an elite group of insiders that use fiat money to fund their fascist agenda by moving the United States further from its founding principles towards endless bailouts and bankruptcy." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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"While quantum encryption is regularly used to secure Swiss bank transactions, as well as their much publicized 2007 election results, Makarov claims it's easily hacked." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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On April 12, 1999 the DOW closed at 10,339; just above today's close of 10,325, but a gallon of gas cost $1.10 then versus $3.64 today. - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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"The nation should have monetary freedom. Much of what we are seeing stems from the structure of the banking industry with the central bank at its apex. Congress is moving in precisely the wrong direction to give the Fed even more power and influence. The Fed is the nation’s money monopolist. There is no economic justification whatsoever (much less a moral justification) for the Fed to have this power." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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"Rather than looking to political leaders to protect or expand our freedom we should cultivate the seeds of freedom in our own spirits, and inspire others to do the same. Nothing government can do can take away our freedom; and if we are a people who are truly free, the government will have to follow" - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
That's really selfish. - Mona N.
I hope you're being sarcastic? - Alan Cheslow
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The real cost will be the debt upon debt that we're piling onto our $10 TRILLION national debt already, and/or the inflation that will result from the Federal Reserve devaluing the dollar by printing more money to cover this. We just don't have the money to give. - Alan Cheslow
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“Just wrote my mortgage bank asking for my money back.”
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Congratulations on passing your bailout bill! Since my family's portion of the bailout will be $17,064 (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1357...), I would like a reduction of my mortgage princpal in the amount of $17,064. Thanks! - Alan Cheslow
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Bank Loans Have Not 'Dried Up'
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"Contrary to many comments, consumer and industrial loans actually increased in the latest week. Troubled giant banks have cut back on lending, but smaller banks have picked up the slack." - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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“Thank you oh mighty government for dragging what should have been a 6-month correction into a 6-year depression. We are in for a long, slow and painful slide down.”
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After vote DOW is down 7.75% from a month ago - Alan Cheslow
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The Defense Department is spending $300 million for propaganda in Iraq. I wonder how much they are paying for propaganda in the US? - Alan Cheslow via Bookmarklet
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“What would it take to goad Americans into the kind of Revolution we had in 1775? I mean, it just took some over-taxed TEA to push that one over the edge...”
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Alien invasion. - Rodfather
I just wonder how much we're all willing to take. I really want to start over from the Constituition. The system we have doesn't work. - Lindsay Donaghe
You want a revolution? Easy... Take their TVs away, make ballgames illegal and you have your revolution right there ;) - Ray Metzen
Why are our priorities so screwed up? - Lindsay Donaghe
Send government agents out to collect firearms. - Tad - Pew Pew!
Capital Hill Tea Party FTW! yeah, take away beer, sex, tv, guns and nascar shit and you've got yourself a nice little revolution goin' on - Susan Beebe
The thing is those are all things that the Repubs generally like... what would make the Demos revolt? And why haven't they already?? - Lindsay Donaghe
Tad is probably close. I dont think a single organized revolution can ever take place really. If one did it would be a massacre. Just think Boston Massacre with automatic weapons instead of the (what were they flint locks?). Yeah not pretty. It would end up being a horrible ugly bloody gorilla styled fight. - Geoff "Maverick" Schultz
Can't we call for a re-election of all the people in Congress? Can't we just send them all home and start over? - Lindsay Donaghe
It would take to long to corrupt 560 more politicians and send them to DC if we fired the lot of them. - Earl E Morningwood via fftogo
Ration electricity to 4 hours a day. That'd do it. - AJ Kohn
The revolution will commence once the government becomes obsolete. My prediction is in less than 40 years. One more war (Iran) plus China coming to collect its debts, plus another natural catastrophe or two all at the same time and you'll have the entire West Coast seceding with other states following soon. There won't be a violent struggle, just a quiet, pathetic dissolution of the Union. Hopefully we'll be living on the West Coast by then. ;) - Tad - Pew Pew!
Then let's go back to what the Constitution said and make the responsibilities of the federal government much smaller... then it would matter less how corrupted they were. Or better yet, make it so that there's no way to gain any power from being in political office... make the job not glamorous or full of perks. Somehow make votes anonymous so there's no real parties and people can focus on doing what's right for people instead of their political constituencies. - Lindsay Donaghe
increase the price of gas to over 4 bucks a gallon. Oh wait never mind - Earl E Morningwood via fftogo
The problem is that it wouldn't be a revolution. It would be a civil war. - Victor Ganata
Contemporary Americans are relatively fat and happy. The people that came here in the 18th century weren't. - Jason Wehmhoener
lol @ rodfather. it's coming on oct. 14th .be there! ha - Cee Bee
We may be fat, but I don't think we're happy anymore... and if the economy keeps going further downhill we won't be fat for long either... - Lindsay Donaghe
Yeah...Americans these days don't have that type of spirit - Rahsheen™
we lack the vision, courage, initiative, mental tenacity, will power, and spirit required to even consider, let alone, launch such a civil war. We're screwed until that changes...we might as well bend over some more. - Susan Beebe
Speak for yourself, I have vision, courage, initiative, mental tenacity, will power, and spirit to spare! - Aaron Krug
They didn't have the internet, cell phones, and tv back then to pacify the masses... - Grant Bierman
will never happen unless the army turns on the Government in support of the people. It's the killer (pardon the pun) factor - Duncan Riley
All of those things reside within people Susan. It just takes a threatened livelyhood to coax it out. - Geoff "Maverick" Schultz
Aaron - ok i wasnt' talking about you! ha, ha! :) Geoff - sooo true!! - Susan Beebe
Beings evolve because they must, not because they want to. We will not change unless we must ... and we have far too many enablers who ensure we don't get to that point. - AJ Kohn
I have always said, take away TV and beer ... but now, come to think of it, you would have to take away my internets too :P - Nadine Schaeffer
It took a little more than some overtaxed tea. - Peter Simard
every conspiracy theory put fourth since 1947 would have to be proven true. Then maybe a third of Americans get off the couch; whether or not they go outside is any ones guess... - J. Abdul-Qahhar
nadie that's what i've said too. i bet if there was a nationwide power outage on superbowl sunday, at least a good fifth of the nation might get a little perturbed. - Faboo Mama
Besides, how ridiculous is the notion anyway? Have you seen the kinds of weapons our military has available to it? We may have a second amendment, but last time I checked it's not exactly easy for me to buy an Abrams tank or an F16. - Jason Wehmhoener
as for a real revolt, well did anyone here get out and protest the iraq war before it started? across the internet, i saw the same thing, 'it won't matter, they're just going to do it anyway.' yes, but add your voice. don't gr