"In April, Jon Stewart joked that Ben & Jerry's would be introducing the flavor Chubby Hubbies in honor of Vermont legalizing same-sex marriage. Now, with marriage equality laws going into effect, it appears that the ice cream maker has taken a cue from the Daily Show host. It's changing the name of their popular flavor "Chubby Hubby" to "Hubby Hubby" for the month."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
"Over the last few years, it has become increasingly clear to me that what we are witnessing is nothing less than the birth of a new religion. Cobbled together from old parts (fundamentalism, gun rights, excessive reverence for capitalism and The Founders, paranoid talking points from the good old liberal-hating John Birch Society), this new decidedly American religion has finally achieved critical mass under the pressure of a president whom its most extreme adherents call — by no accident — the Antichrist. Though I have spent plenty of time by now tracking dangerous threats and outrageous actions first-hand, I'm not here just to bash this strange new thing. Because like most Americans, I have sympathy for some of these ideas and the people who believe them. That's what makes the new religion confusing: so many of these parts act in contradiction, held together by faith and faith alone — in order to keep calling themselves Christian, most of these folks had to throw out the entire...
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- William Harryman
from Bookmarklet
Ignorant? Ahistorical? Self-deluded? Self-serving? And then maybe crazy.
- Ayşe E.
People are Effin Nuts - Believers can be told Anything - I am going to promote my self as a Prophet ad see how much I can wring out of the system - What do you think - Anyone could do it????
- ThatDBD
I'm with Steven. Hah, and then a conservative friend said, "Why are they always calling us evil, instead of talking about the real issues?" HUH?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
they shall be judged by their actions . . . .
- William Harryman
Bible and the Constitution they prefer to wave it than read it but really is there anything more unchristian meaning antithesist of Jesus Christ than the actions of his most vocal adherents in the healthcare debate
- WarLord
@WarLord - there was a magnificent response to one crazy secessionist/revolutionist-minded email going around saying (I paraphrase from memory) "Oh, we liberals should take the homeless? Well, OK. Jesus did say "whatever you do for the least of these, you do for me"."
- Andrew C
Bill, thanks for posting this. As someone raised in the Christian tradition, when I read stuff like this it just breaks my heart. But, I think that the scary thing is this: the conservative Christians who do think this stuff is a little, how should we say...off, but don't really think much about it. I have a LOT of relatives who are "conservative Christian" and they just don't get it that these are the kinds of "neo-Christians" who are in the churches they attend.
- C.S. Sloan
Dude: the New Testament was a whole lot of Peace and Get along with your Neighbor, Love your Neighbor as you would love Yourself. Old Testament had a god who wold make a very poor neighbor or relative for that mater. Was fickle more than any women and never stuck by those who were supposed to most dear. So New School New Christians - Getting along with Strangers - Well that was what that Jesus was all about Wasn't he I mean dude??
- ThatDBD
it was Gandhi who said something about liking your Christ, but not your Christians - most Christians do not live a very Christ-like life - Jesus would have hated the insurance companies making money off of people's suffering the same way he hated the money changers in the Temple - He would have embraced the suffering of the gay and lesbian community the same way he embraced the...
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- William Harryman
"FF connected me with new friends that I would never have known. FB connects me with old friends I could have done without. :(" - jcunwired http://friendfeed.com/jcunwir...
its actually quite easy to ignore someone you could have done without. *sigh*
- Sidney
Wow. Some of you apparently live terrible lives, filled with terrible people you seem unable to avoid, with the possible exception of this one website, I feel terrible about that.Of course, it's also possible you've wildly overestimated the difference between the people you know here and the people who know you in real life.
- Richard Lawler
Nope, you're the ones who keep saying everyone you know and everything you do on facebook sucks. That must be terrible.
- Richard Lawler
Yes Richard because clearly I can make friends from all over the world on my daily stroll through the park. Or not.
- vijay
Richard: That there's a possible incompatibility between networks centered around personal relationships -- or at least people you've physically encountered -- and networks based largely on interests, seems pretty clear to me.
- Christopher A Carr
Richard: I suppose there's nothing stopping you from deleting your ff account now and heading on over to Facebook full-time.
- Christopher A Carr
I like this post, but I love all my social networks equally lol.
- Ryan Peach
Luckily, unlike so many here, I can keep using any website I want the same way I did before without devolving into a baseless bitchfest about what might happen someday somewhere. Or, I could have kneejerk reaction based on irrational fear. hmmm
- Richard Lawler
And you're very good at keeping your assumptions to yourself
- Bwana ☠
Richard: Were friendfeed to say that it's going to survive, or at least that FB will have a more open, public facing side to it as a result of the acquisition, then I think the bitching would subside. As it stands, there's not much reason to think that anything of friendfeed will survive. If Facebook perfectly met everyone's needs, there would be no friendfeed.
- Christopher A Carr
On the bright side, I can have a kneejerk reaction on FB and remove baseless bitches from my friends list. :)
- jcunwired
Except, they haven't really said anything. So thinking anything will or won't survive is premature. If Facebook perfectly met everyone's expectations there would be no need for war, sickness or evil deeds. Every online community is the same as every other one, if friendfeed, for whatever reason, doesn't keep doing what you want ti to do, you'll use something else. It hasn't ever been perfect and it never will be.
- Richard Lawler
I told you Richard. You're wrong. "Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority." http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Bwana ☠
Well, you told me what techcrunch's opinion is, because that's what I wanted to know. Thanks! (there's sarcasm there)
- Richard Lawler
Ok let me slow it down for you. The team is splitting. The product is going to merge with Facebook. (No sarcasm)
- Bwana ☠
Richard: "Every online community is the same as every other one..." That's nonsense.
- Christopher A Carr
I can wholly identify with JC's statement.
- JA Castillo
Wow Bwana...you are really bitchy in this thread...I think Richard is making some good points. If you are having issues with the people you 'accept' on Facebook there really is only one person who you can point the finger. You. Facebook makes it quite easy to NOT get involved with any person.
- Sidney
I accept friends in Facebook because if they took the time to want to be friends with me, I feel obligated. I'm also not one to hurt a person's feelings by turning them down. That's what its like in a closed community like Facebook. Friendfeed is totally open - I can read, share, participate and like without having any obligation whatsoever to the people I interact with.
- jcunwired
Sidney - Refusing to see that there is a clear difference between the people and the atmosphere of Facebookers and Friendfeeders is either foolishness or stubbornness. There is a world in facebook, full of garbage, that people think is "ok" because it evolved from other crap.
- Matthew DeVries
You are probably right. I am checking things out only now
- AbZ
from Nambu
There is the matter of censorship too. You really have to post some very illegal crap before FF will step in a mod it. Facebook bounces you for saying breastfeeding.
- Matthew DeVries
I couldn't have put it better myself. Just got back and saw the news. Still digesting it.
- Charlie Anzman
Actually, I love most of my Facebook friends, or I wouldn't have (re)connected. But FF is a different community.
- Mistletoe Glen
Dont twitter groups achieve a similar effect?
- AbZ
from Nambu
I like Facebook friends, I don't like that think it's ok to kidnap me, poke me, or ask me what Fantana girl I'm most like. I don't like that they think I'm the misanthropic curmudgeon with the problem when I ask them not to "It's what Facebook is for"
- Matthew DeVries
It's interesting to see ho people use different networking sites - for example - I use FB for personal connections and family and the rest are business related.
- Graham Bunting
I like my friends, but you are definently right. I just got on friendfeed any advice on making friends?
- Ryan Peach
chaz, mine is not just shy.....its perfect and I used to love fb back then.
- Myrna
Definitely Myrna, There is no way I'll miss out on your Google Wave!
- Geoff Schultz
“God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.” ~ Reinhold Niebuhr
- Myrna
i'm relieved now, i just got a copy of my feeds, i'm great to go now, let the winds of change blow. ps, the reason it wasnt perfect was that i had to spend so much time manually building my rss-feeds up in the first place, :( but i'm cool, i've got a copy, :)
- chaz2b
chaz, what exactly are you going to do with the feeds? They'll be more tomorrow and more the next day and next.
- Myrna
"I read every damn last word and I agree. That said, I’m typing this on a brand new Dell (which I bought after the hard drive in my Mac failed and after I realized that I liked using Chrome and Outlook better than anything on the Mac) and I’m very seriously considering getting an Android phone and giving up my iPhone too. But, you are right. These are hardly things that keep Steve Jobs up at night."
- Robert Scoble
Started with Apple IIc when I was a kid then spent the 90's using PCs (like everyone else, I guess) and then switched to Mac in 2001 after OSX came out (all sounds very familiar, right?) until 2005 when work forced me back into a Windows environment. Got a Mac last year and have been using it as my personal machine. Had a BB for work and an iPhone 3G as a personal phone. Recently gave...
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- Narain Jashanmal
I still say use whatever gets your job done. I bought a macbook and final cut express because together they cost a fraction more than adobe premier and I get a laptop - it extended my capabilities. There's things about OSX that I like and things I feel are poorly designed, exactly the same as I view my windows machines. I do quibble about the premium they charge on what is off the shelf...
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- alphaxion
If graphics was all I did, then I would invest in the Mac. If graphics were more important to my web experience, I'd get a Mac. But when I want to calculate or program (or get to know my system and be able to manipulate it) AND do cracker jack graphics work, give me a PC any day
- Melanie Reed
I bought a mac because of the preformance, and that it didn't have anything to due with Microsoft. Thanks
- Zachary TG
So succinct, so true. You'd make a shitty politician, Steven (that's a compliment).
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Not a fan of "birthers", but that statement is just about a textbook example of an argumentum ad personam. Ad Hominem is weak rhetoric. http://bit.ly/u9B4z
- Alex Scrivener
Alex: No, for two reasons: (a) consider the source and the promoters of the birth certificate nonsense and (b) where's the equal disgust over McCain's place of birth (Panama Canal Zone).
- Steven Perez
Stephen, "consider the source" IS ad hominem, that is precisely what the term means. (b) is, I believe, a Red Herring: http://bit.ly/3ax7rG
- Alex Scrivener
Stephen, the presenter of an argument is irrelevant to the validity of the argument. Ad hominem "consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim." If these guys were blood-drinking Nazis,...
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- Alex Scrivener
Given that Obama has already released a copy of his birth certificate for everyone to see, the fact that the birthers continue to pretend he is not a legitimate president suggests that they are impervious to logic, and therefore arguing over logical fallacies is a waste of time.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
John, logic is never a waste of time. Spock would be very disappointed!
- Alex Scrivener
Alex: you honestly believe that birthers are not know-nothing racists? Because, I've stated before, the same arguments could have been made against McCain, yet anyone with half a functioning brain could see that this is a specious argument. Given the depth of their belief, what other cause can this insanity be attributed to?
- Steven Perez
@Steven, Not at all. I think most of them are. I just think that it is irrelevant. .Ad hominem attacks lead to sloppy arguments. They are weak rhetoric, and weaken your position. They can quickly become a default response, and lead to a lowering of the tone of all conversation. I dislike them.
- Alex Scrivener
That's where we disagree, Alex. I think that racism is the root cause, not a by-product. Once one believes in a core value so strong, it matters little what the end argument is.
- Steven Perez
from IM
While ad hominem is not a logically sound argument that can be relied on 100%... it can be a handy heuristic. I mean, yes, it is technically possible for know-nothing racists to be right on something, possibly just by accident, but OTOH as a rule of thumb it certainly saves a lot of time to just make the safe assumption, especially with something as insane as the birther argument.
- Andrew C
Bumpity bump. When did Obama get his passport? HOW did he get a passport? Was it during the Bush administration? And by that I mean, why does Bush hate America?
- Ayşe E.
I actually get what Alex is getting at. He's not disagreeing with your fundamental statement, he just thinks that by making the attack personal (ad hominem - to the man) instead of about the issue itself, it weakens your argument. Having said all that, I agree that racism is a huge part of the birther rhetoric.
- cecily
I understand that, Cecily. And I'm saying that the birther position is so absurd that it doesn't deserve to be treated as a legitimate argument. We can have honest debate about issues, but when one side's argument has crossed over to Koo-Koo Crazy Land, we are no longer having a debate - we're arguing about the price of tea on Tatooine. At which point, I no longer feel compelled to have a rational debate with said knuckleheads. At that point, "screw you, you racist bastard" is the only proper response.
- Steven Perez
So, someone posted a picture of a naked man here on FriendFeed and now everyone is in an uproar. Let me introduce you to two very important features: "block" and "hide."
I agree. Also people need to get over it.
- Oracio
You should be able to turn off images from FoaF. I have no idea who victor gnaata is or why he would post a picture of a chopped off dick, but I didn't ask to see it, and I had to see it, before I could block it.
- Richard Lawler
As usual. It's not the naked man pic that matters, but the fact that someone dared to post it.
- andrei_c
Richard: I agree, it would be great to have a "not safe for work" feature.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
A lot of people here don't believe in using the block feature, which is something I fail to understand (why someone wouldn't use it)
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
If we can turn off comments we should be able to tell everyone else that some item contains objectionable content.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Jannnifer I block early and often. It keeps me sane.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I think the point that's eventually going to be made is that it's considered polite to not put NSFW material in their main feed but to place it in the appropriate room.
- CAJ, somewhere else
this is why i mostly use lists at work. no FOAF with nudes.
- Bill Kinney
Mike: I am sure it is, but you won't come over my house naked.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert what if someone posts a nude pic of you. Wouldn't you ask FriendFeed to delete that content? In which case you're actually asking to apply an "implicit rule"? And yes, I know about hiding and blocking :)
- directeur
Robert, Sure! but otherwise, you'd ask, and it would be your *right* and when we're talking about rights, we implicitely talk about "rules"
- directeur
There needs to be a work safe mode, hide and block are good, but they are both available after the fact
- Kim Landwehr
Directeur: it depends on whether I had an expectation of privacy.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, I wish I'd learned to block early and fast - it would have saved me a lot of grief here on friendfeed, as a few people ruined my experience here and I'm still slowly recovering. *Sigh*
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I keep the live feed rolling throughout the day at work and it would be killer if something like that came up on my screen. Bad etiquette!
- Brian Bufalo
What? Naked pictures on the Web? I'm shocked.
- Patrick Giblin
So I went looking for interesting naked men and all I found was a still from a film. old news, watched, it, nothing to comment on. I'm guessing the majority of the people in an uproar are US based?
- Rachel Clarke
I missed the naked man pic. There was one person who posted a bunch of barely clothed ladies. I got bored with seeing all the pics of ladies and since I thought he was still a good guy, I just hid his FF posts. I do however block mean-spirited people.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Stuff like this is the reason I can't use regular FF at work...
- Chrimmus Tad
from fftogo
You all need a compulsory internet filter like the one we are getting in Australia. That would protect your delicate sensibilities! LOL.
- Matt G
I think it's impolite to post NSFW images on the main feed. It's always work hours somewhere in the world too. Actually a couple of times I was so shocked at what I saw that I froze and didn't hide it fast enough :(
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from fftogo
Where is the uproar? No one really complained in the thread itself
- Matthew DeVries
Why does everyone have to continue on with this? It was a bloody Mistake. I'm human.
- Matt Ruiz
Matt - why would you complain in the thread of a picture you don't want to see, thereby sharing it with everyone who subscribes to you?
- Richard Lawler
Matt your post was just fuel to a slow burning fire that was surrounded by a forest of dry timber. If it wasn't your post it would of been someone elses.
- Uncle CW™
What don't you get Matthew? Why would you share something NSFW with the people who subscribe to you, unless you're the kind of person who shares that stuff on friendfeed.
- Richard Lawler
Why would you complain anywhere else but the place where problem is?
- Matthew DeVries
Must say, this is my all time favorite drama Ff. ZOMG PENIS
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew - which part don't you get? Commenting on the post reshares it to everyone who follows you. Do you not understand how friendfeed works? If you don't want to share the post, you can't comment on it. It's very simple.
- Richard Lawler
Do you not understand how humans addressing problems works? Starting third hand bitch threads is not the way you deal with things. You go to the source.
- Matthew DeVries
You're either unable or unwilling to accept that someone might not want to reshare a post they themselves don't like, I don't know which it is, but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I don't understand how someone could not understand this concept. Do you know what happens when you comment on a thread?
- Richard Lawler
You clearly like to spread drama around so it spreads as far as possible. Every single one of these Penis posts should have been in the penis thread. Not all over the feed. That is main feed litter, not penises.
- Matthew DeVries
No, no I'm not. I'd rather see a bumped single thread with a penis in it, than 200 threads complaining about penises.
- Matthew DeVries
Whatever you want to call it, you're being willfully ignorant of what I'm saying. Your ignorance of how friendfeed works and why people use it the way they do isn't my problem.
- Richard Lawler
Interesting that naked photos of women don't elicit the same response.
- anna sauce
Richard, I wouldn't mind if someone shared a photo of a dick (not that i'd enjoy it, I wouldn't) on friendfeed, it's just the fact that I never intended for this to happen. Posterous had Auto posted it, to both Twitter and FriendFeed, so either way it was bound to show up. Why it showed up was an accident. I only meant it to be viewed on Posterous not on Twitter, nor FriendFeed.
- Matt Ruiz
You're the one doing exactly what you say I am. http://friendfeed.com/search... That is what I get to see today. Instead of all of you taking your penis issues to the penis thread, which I could have hidden and never seen again, I have to see http://friendfeed.com/search... THAT is what people should be cognizant of. Not that they're bumping a penis to their followers.
- Matthew DeVries
Matt - I'm not addressing why or how it popped up, I didn't see it in my feed because I don't know you, until you subbed me just now and it showed up in my email (thanks for that btw, I love that movie.) I'm just talking about why the way friendfeed works isn't helpful for this kind of thing.
- Richard Lawler
Matthew - what you see when you search for the word penis isn't my problem, and i'm not spreading anything. In case you didn't notice, I didn't start this thread.
- Richard Lawler
Yes, but you were the one to jump on me when I tell the people to take their penis talk to the penis posting guy. And for some reason I STILL don't get, the penis posting guy not only posted the penis, but 4 follow up threads about the penis instead of just shutting up and hiding. So I have the penis complaint threads, the penis thread, the penis thread guy posting about his penis...
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- Matthew DeVries
I'm kind of trying to follow the thread here but lost it. Perhaps the problem is Scoble posting about it? 45K fans can't be wrong.
- anna sauce
So, do you understand why someone would not want to comment on the original thread or not? It's a real simple question you've been unable to answer so far. You've got plenty of time, clearly. If you don't like all the penis threads you're seeing, you probably sub to the wrong people, I only see this one.
- Richard Lawler
*eyeroll* you win *tips king* The internet is yours........ Be careful, it kind of pulls to the left on rainy mornings.
- Matthew DeVries
It's easy to make the mistake of not realizing or forgetting that something will automatically pop up over here. It's happened to me before (not w/ pics, but Disqus comments - nothing bad, just didn't make sense once over here). There are so many services that can be imported over to FF that one could quite easily forget about something unless you review it and keep it fresh in your mind.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
What -- There's nudity on the Interwebs? When did this start?
- Chris Baskind
DeVries: you are wrong. I would NEVER engage on objectionable content because that spreads the objectionable content.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I noticed. and noticed. and noticed. and noticed. A lot of people seem to think that's the right way of addressing problems. Seems Three's Company was a big influence on people.
- Matthew DeVries
Well, thanks for sharing! Is there a problem with people getting into an uproar? Someone obviously was lacking attention. They gave 'em what they wanted? Why are you in an uproar that people are in an uproar??? Just curious. :)
- Givememychocolatedotorg
I'm still in shock to find that they had male full frontal nudity in a movie! It's about time. I totally believe NSFW content should not be posted on the main feed. We do have to accept that occasionally something will slip through. A lot of companies are blocking social networking sites. Right or wrong, they do want you to do your job. If it's is such a risk for you, possible you shouldn't be on ff at work anyway. Just sayin'
- BEX
With Scoble on FriendFeed we have to see lots of pics of naked men - it's nothing new. :-)
- Jesse Stay
more words of genius from the fingers of Robert Scoble
- Andrew Euell
The problem seems to be cleared up now, the original poster is now aware of the issue that caused the unwanted action, the "block" and "hide" features have been explained and now.... everyone's bitching that everyone else is bitching? lol I find this really entertaining. I've been hiding each and every single "beautiful women" group posts because I'm getting annoyed by the number of...
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- Heather
Here in the United Arab Emirates, our ISP tends to block any site that does not have a policy for filtering mature images. Flickr is still blocked - regardless of their present policy. Since I don't want to lose access to this site, I would rather if FF had a policy for this kind of thing.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Dear Scoble et al: I don't care who posted a penis on FF (Matt, seriously, I never meant for you to catch flack about this. It happens, and I hope I've clarified that my ire isn't directed to you *at all*.) My frustration is two fold 1) Gents who don't raise an eyebrow at naked women on the main feed who act as if a penis is the worst thing they've ever seen when one happens to float...
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
What are you so afraid of that you need to be so quick on the block and hide buttons?!
- Prokofy Neva
Prokofy: I wouldn't allow a naked guy to come into my place of work or my living room, so I will block same from here.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, the naked man has to enter the room before you can block him :(
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I hope FF administration sees things this way, hide and block is actually a very simple solution and a truly excellent one. This is sort of how censorship got out of hand at Flickr though. Started with stuff like this and then the next thing you know they had a whole group dedicated to stamping out anything potentially offensive on the site ending up deleting entire accounts and thousands of photos willy nilly because they had a bad hair day instead. It's easy for people to overreact to stuff like this.
- Thomas Hawk
I wish the effects were better, but oh well.
- joey
@Joey agreed, and some of the acting as well. I don't care, I still will watch anything to do with this series. It was just so exciting seeing these two novels adapted for television for the first time, even if they did leave out a crapload.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
That would be the twins Leto II (James McAvoy) and Ghanima (Jessica Brooks), sitting on the Shield Wall looking for a sandworm. Bail Ali Kaifa!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
The Tyrant Leto II oh wait that comes later.
- Tony C
Yup, this is before his sandworm transition (and abomination).
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Ahhhh it's sold out. Looks like we'll have to buy tickets for tomorrow instead.
- Thomas Hawk
got tickets online this time for this morning's 10am show.
- Thomas Hawk
Planning this movie to be my 5 y.o.'s first-ever theater experience. Maybe next weekend.
- Hutch Carpenter
The glasses we got for "Bolt" and "Journey to the Center of the Earth" were pretty much indistinguishable from generic ray-ban style sunglasses. http://friendfeed.com/kshep...
- Ken Sheppardson
Haven't seen Up yet, but as far as Bolt and JthCothE go, the effects were kinda gratuitous in JCE, but in Bolt the 3D is just a natural part of the film, and really does add something without really taking anything away. I think modern animation/rendering and 3D are a natural.
- Ken Sheppardson
Anyone know this...are 3D glasses required? Or does the movie look fine without them? I could see my son not wanting to wear them the entire movie.
- Hutch Carpenter
Saw it last night. Very enjoyable! Definitely recommend.
- Herb Hernandez
If it is played in an IMAX theater Hutch, I believe glasses are required.
- Brandon Mendelson
Depends on the show. We saw both Bolt and JCE in non-IMAX theatres, but the shows were specifically 3D. If you're in a 3D showing and don't have glasses, or take them off, you'll see slightly offset ghost images. The 5yr old I was with probably wore his for 1/3 of the film, but didn't really complain about the image with them off. Not that he'd really know how to explain that he didn't like it...
- Ken Sheppardson
Buying tickets online is a total scam. How much does it really cost them to process that "convenience charge"? I bet they spend more money collecting it, then on reserving and delivering the tickets. If a movie theater chain let me buy tickets for free online (or better yet w/ reserved seating too) they would be the only chain that I would go to.
- Davis Freeberg
I don't think they're trying to trick anybody into thinking the "convenience charge" is to cover costs. Buying online means (1) you don't have to wait in line and (2) you're sure to get a seat. That's convenient. It has value. So they charge for it.
- Ken Sheppardson
I just use the electronic kiosk, it's never got a line. Just a touch screen interface and I'm done.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
But that's just it, why should a business make their customers pay for convenience? Shouldn't businesses be trying to provide the most convenient experience to all their customers? What if McDonalds tried to add a .50 cent cost to using their drive through, would people pay it or would they start eating at Burger King? For some reason, the ticket industry has been able to get away with charging for convenience, instead of providing an awesome experience to remain competitive.
- Davis Freeberg
"Why should a business make their customers pay for convenience?" -- Isn't that sorta one of the fundamental principles of business?
- Ken Sheppardson
And are you talking about the same McDonald's founded on the idea that it's more convenient than a sit-down restaurant or cooking at home?
- Ken Sheppardson
Paying for convenience and having to pay for different tiers of convenience are 2 different things. If Redbox tried to charge $1.00 extra 2 reserve a movie, no one would take advantage, so they let all customers reserve for free. This is an ex: of a co providing convenience to all customers 2 be the best. Meanwhile, theaters charge extra for the same capabilities. I am willing to pay for a convenient experience, I'm not willing to pay more for different tiers when it doesn't cost the business extra.
- Davis Freeberg
Hutch, the first half of the movie might not be good for the kid. There were some kids in the theater when I watched it, and their attention was drifting, I don't think they understood what was going on. Also some of the early themes are a little heavy -- it might be better if they didn't understand. Just a warning up front, this might not be the movie you think it is. :-)
- Dave Winer
I think we're going to just have to agree to disagree, Davis, on whether or not pricing based on value to the customer--independent of cost--is a "scam".
- Ken Sheppardson
We just got back. I thought the movie was really good. All the kids liked it. It's definitely better in 3D. You have to wear the glasses or the screen looks ghosty and it's hard to see the movie. That said, my 4, 6, 7, and 8 year olds all had no problem wearing the glasses. They charged $1 extra per ticket to buy online but yesterday when we went it was sold out and we couldn't see it....
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- Thomas Hawk
Total cost for the 6 in our family was $60 tickets, $1 parking, $15 for popcorn/soda/dibs icecream (we all shared and they give free refills on the large soda and large popcorn) = $76. Feels expensive but it's a good family memory. The kids and mrsth really enjoyed it as did I.
- Thomas Hawk
Anything scary for the 4yrold? Did he/she enjoy it? Is the plot overly complex? Considering taking my almost 4yrold, but not sure.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
There's a few scary parts. It's rated pg. I didn't think it was too scary though and Kate (our 4 year old seemed to like it)
- Thomas Hawk
TH, glad you liked Up - makes it worth making your post my 10,000th "like" on FF.
- Mike Reynolds
But not quite 1:1 with the 20,622 balloons in Up. :)
- Mike Reynolds
it was good, saw it today with my 8 yr old. the first 15 minutes are knock down best piece of animated movie-smithing ever. i got tired watching the old guy haul his house around. 3D rocks.
- Thom Kennon
Is this movie only being shown in 3D. If not, how do you find out which theaters have 3D?
- Cristo
I saw it earlier today also, great film. Cristo, I found that they advertise it as 3D. If the listing doesn't say one way or another it's a standard screening. I believe theaters need special equipment to show 3D films, so most won't have it. But if you can see it in 3D it's worth it. If not, it's still worth seeing.
- Bluesun 2600
Fandango lists showtimes as if they were two different films: "Up" and "Up in Disney Digital 3D"
- Ken Sheppardson
Dave - thanks for the heads up on the first half of the movie. One thing Finding Nemo and Cars had was pretty quick-paced action throughout.
- Hutch Carpenter
BTW, Hutch: Bolt is similar to Nemo and Cars in that sense. I really can't recommend it highly enough.
- Ken Sheppardson
Bolt? Hadn't heard of it. Will check it out though Ken. Thanks!
- Hutch Carpenter
I saw it without 3D, and it was still very good.
- Anne Bouey
I tried Flock from Firefox but I'm back to 'old' Firefox w/plugins. Just can't beat it IMHO.
- Molly
The most popular plugin on Firefox is Adblock (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US...). Google's core business is serving ads. I think Google is going to drag its feet on plugins as long as they can to avoid AdBlock plus.
- Atul Arora
I felt that way at first, but I have not regretted switching to Chrome at all.
- Brandon Mendelson
@Atul - there is no feet dragging on plugins, I promise. : ) Don't believe me? Come hear Aaron Boodman himself talk about "Developing Extensions for Google Chrome" at Google I/O: http://code.google.com/events...
- DeWitt Clinton
Dewitt - good to hear no feet dragging on Google's part. I can understand how Adblock Plus extension can be detrimental to Google's business. Maybe Google should have an AppStore like notion so it can manage the extensions that can run on Chrome.
- Atul Arora
X Marks is the deal breaker for me. Gotta have it. It's on Safari and IE, why not Chrome?
- Mike Beck
I have managed to get by without extensions. I go back to FF on occasion to look at what is new with Feedly and a few other services, but for the most part I run Chrome all of the time.
- Sean Brady
Agreed. I know Google has a framework going for extensions, but I'd rather see them go with this new API from Mozilla: http://labs.mozilla.com/2009... Add-ons will be HTML, CSS, and/or JavaScript. No browser restarts and no version compatibility issues.
- Kevin C. Tofel
"But Republicans? their own grassroots are so wedded to the status quo that anyone in the establishment attempting to move the party to a more electorally viable posture is branded a heretic and cast out of their club. They think they've lost elections because they haven't shouted the crazy loud enough (more teabagging please!), or because their insults just aren't as effective anymore (let's try "fascist" now!)."
- R. Ferguson
from Bookmarklet
I agree with Derrick, there's still 2 hours till its on in the west coast.
- D. Eda Goze
Dangit, Dave-o. Lol fixed, it must have been because I saw the MA episode the other night. :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Cmon its just a cartoon. Its not like LOST where its going to ruin the whole episode. I think the episode description in TV guide would have told you that much.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
"As Twitter grows up, one of the best examples of its becoming mainstream is how widely and quickly real-life celebrities have latched onto the service, pushing Twitter's early heroes -- Internet-famous-types and tech journalists -- aside."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Not really. I'm not on the popularity bandwagon, and don't sub to TV celebs pining for attention on Twitter like angsty teens. No Britney, Oprah or Kutcher here. Scoble and iJustine are value for me.
- Mo Kargas
Mo is right, IMO. I've Twittered on this subject across my feed for a week now. Celebrities will rarely offer insight or think to communicate with some of us lesser-thans, unless our Follower Ranking appeases their ego's needs. Celebrities are turning Twitter into a "Jump the Shark" moment, and I'm frightened.
- Terence
Very. Scoble offers the most value here, as Mo points out.
- Roberto Bonini
Uhm, you just unfollow them? Or better yet, don't follow them in the first place.
- Yuvi
I agree. Once I saw that Twitter was becoming another soap box for celebs, I quickly unfollowed them. They don't get the spirit of twitter. They're using it like their own personal CNN. They broadcast news, we consume it. Twitter is NOT a one way street. They've turned it into a freak show.
- Kandeezie
Yuvi -- the joke is Twitter is either broken or corrupt -- you can't unfollow them.
- Brian Sullivan
Maybe I'm missing something, but they bleat out their stuff just like anyone else. It's a 'status updater'. I very rarely have conversations on Twitter because it sucks for that. I'll either move it to email, Plurk or give up. Why crap on famous people who are using the service the same way all the geek-famous have been?
- Admiral Anika
@Abby, you are correct:it's all about P.R.....and the Fail Whale.
- Terence
Wake up to the whining every morning. I try not to give in til 7 though
- JSNFLMNG
@Janet, wanting to be fed 3x per day is really annoying. they get enough from one meal and the rest isn't their "I'm hungry" whine, it's their "THERES NO FOOD IN THE DISH OMG OMG OMG.. just telling you." whine
- mjc
@Michael, I think I know what whine you speak of..........
- Janet
I have a dog - I am master of the universe. Oh yeah, and a wife and daughter - I am master of the universe when me and the dog are home alone :)
- Patrick Jordan
from BuddyFeed
My dogs and cats know my number - mom is major pushover. All they have to do is whine, bark, meow and I will be there giving in to their every whim. Heck, their time on this earth is so limited in relationship to my life span. I attempt to spoil in triplicate portions.
- Janet