Vincent, they want everyone to be vegetarian. If we're all vegetarian no one will raise cows, chickens or pigs and those animals will become extinct. PETA also opposes keeping animals as pets.
- Internet's Tad
If we let all domesticated animals go free, they'd be dead in very short order. Perhaps that's what he's referring to.
- Alex Scoble
PETA puts naked women in their ads for attention and now wants to milk us like cows? Any one else see a problem with this?
- leigh himel
The human milk thing is just a publicity stunt to get the attention of the media and spread awareness about factory farming and milk consumption issues... The message they want to pass starts at "Using cow's milk..." in their letter.
- Vincent X
Leigh, I think that PETA would probably advocate for voluntary milking, not the mandatory milking the cows get.
- Anthony Citrano
I do think - as I said in the Swiss-restaurant-human-milk discussion - that I find it so strange people balk at this concept and PETA is poking at that intellectual inconsistency. So, we'll drink the milk of another species - a barnyard animal most people would scarcely even touch - but we find the idea of human milk appalling. It's not a serious, practical proposal - but its point is well taken - that we are big hypocrites when it comes to our food.
- Anthony Citrano
@Anthony, No people find the idea of human milk appalling because humans aren't domesticated animals to use as we see fit while cows, and goats are. Most of us tend to think of humans as more important than domesticated animals. Most of us.
- Berial
Brian, milking a woman is not using her as you "see fit" - assuming she is volunteering to be milked. I don't think anyone is advocating indentured, forced milking for humans. Further, many of us had no problem consuming human milk as infants until we were weaned .. and then fed the milk of other species, which I think is probably much more of an offense to Nature.
- Anthony Citrano
Brian I totally agree with you and that's why I pointed out what I did earlier - I don't think anyone in their right minds is suggesting this seriously. It is a useful intellectual exercise, though, for helping us ask some important questions about how we look at our food sources.
- Anthony Citrano
i'll only agree if it's the finest cambodian breastmilk
- Cee Bee
People Eating Tasty Animals? Mmmmmm....
- Jeremy Brooks
Anthony: suggesting that PETA is in their right mind at all is pretty silly. If what you suggest is the case, then they are implying that we ask cows for permission. Anyone who seriously suggests this is possible, well their right mind is simply a geographic area relative to their left mind, and neither is a place where sanity exists.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Well, for the next 5 years, anytime anyone has anything to say (-) about PETA, its going to be this. "Oh yea right, PETA. The group that wants to us to drink human milk in our ice cream." Too bad. They are radical in a positive way usually. I guess sometimes just plain radical.
- Andrew Baron
I'm taking left over Rib Eye steak and making a delcious stir fry tonight. mmmmmm.
- Jason Shultz
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@Mark - that's not what I suggested. I suggested they were asking us to question our assumptions, which - whether you agree with PETA or not - is always noble in my eyes.
- Anthony Citrano
That's exactly what you suggested, Anthony. PETA's (perhaps satirical) position is that we should get the milk from human women, but only if they volunteer 'cause we must respect cattle's rights. This either means that they want the animals to be volunteering their milk (and not have it forcibly taken), or they want animals elevated to the level of humans, and no one gets any milk but the little babies. The only thing it causes me to question is their intellect (or perhaps their judgment in suggesting it).
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
They do have a point that we just arbitrarily say that cow's milk is okay to drink into adulthood. Most other animals besides us give up drinking milk after babyhood. I joke sometimes that I've lost my "baby guts" since I'm lactose intolerant (I still eat (cow's milk) ice cream, though.) They need to come up with a better way to make this point. This is silly. Great way to get the whole thing written off by most folks.
- Kamilah Gill
We're also the only "animal" that fries up a cow and serves it on buns. Who was the jackass that arbitrarily decided the cooking things was the way to go? While we're at it, we're the only "animal" on the planet to step foot on our moon, figure out nutrition in ways that extend our lives, and issues press releases suggesting that cows have as much sentience and self-governance as we do. Pam Anderson's boobs are the only reason we're having this discussion - otherwise we'd have written PETA off years ago.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
No, thank you, Anthony "Ad Hominem" Citrano. Or is it Anthony "Logic-Free" Citrano?
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I don't see calling out your straw man argument as ad hominem at all. Onward.
- Anthony Citrano
You wouldn't. But most name callers incapable of following a logical train of thought can. All I did was extend the train of thought of the previous comment. You incorrectly called me out as the straw man, instead of who set it up, and you did it by name-calling (all while being somehow unable to follow the scan of my previous comments).
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Name-calling? I didn't call YOU a straw man. For one who claims to worship so passionately at the altar of logic, you seem a bit clueless about what "straw man" means. And yeah (shucks), you got me - I'm having a hard time following all your fancy talk.
- Anthony Citrano
For the love of john, Anthony... you absolutely did call me a straw man. You were making fun of my name, and put "Straw Man" in as my nickname. If that isn't namecalling, nothing is. Do you have the memory of a friggin' goldfish? Does your scroll up button not work? You really aren't doing much here to display the intelligence you claim to have.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins