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I'm starting to be annoyed by all the commentary on Friendfeed by people who never liked Friendfeed. Is it just their chance to say "nah-nah I told you so?" I feel like they should leave us alone to use the service how we see fit, especially since Friendfeed isn't part of the "my social media is bigger than yours" contest anymore.

October 20, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Who are you talking about? And why do you have to pass some sort of koolaide test before you can have an opinion about FriendFeed? - Robert Scoble

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Eric: there has always been waves of - to not put too fine a point on it - willy-waving, around here. Since the FB merger it has a bitter tinge to it for those of use who actually like it here. - WoH: Minding her Steves

Starting to be annoyed? I crossed that bridge 18 months ago. :) - Louis Gray

I still haven't crossed beyond the Bridges of Madison County. - Micah

Michah did you know there is a great casino just south of those bridges? #justsayin - WarLord

My all times faves are those who must posit out loud "SHOULD I LEAVE FRIENDFEED I GET NO ATTENTION?" link baiting our good natures as invariably people respond - sofarsoShawn <right here>

You mean there's a casino where the house doesn't always win? Directions please ;) - Micah

Michah one exit south of Madison on 35 in Osceola, IA. go for it - WarLord

Anyone can have an opinion, but so can I. I am allowed to have an opinion too. Trust me, no one is listening to me like they are listening to Robert Scoble or Dave Winer. Call me crazy, but I have a problem with the opinion that people want to tear down this service. Some of us live in this social media town. They may have built the Interstate highway around this place, and it may be... more... - Eric - 100% Choice Cuts

+1, Eric - Elena

+1000 Eric - WoH: Minding her Steves

It's not about tearing it down. But we report on California the same way. The schools suck. More people leave every year than come in. Etc Etc. I'd rather not pretend everything is hunky dory if it isn't. - Robert Scoble

I also totally disagree that no one is listening to you. - Robert Scoble

I agree with both Eric & Scoble, it's really about striving for what is better & making that which is good better, innovation happens, but in whose court will it land. Scoble's critique, brazen and perhaps misguided as it was at least prompted a reaction that's progress there. - sofarsoShawn <right here>

You're not wrong Robert. I understand you guys need to have this discussion. It's fine, but the level of discussion seems to be boiling down to making fun of Friendfeed. It's an also-ran, a nobody, get rid of it. Everyone there is a nobody. Where is J.Lo, P Diddy? If you didn't notice, some of us geeks might not respond well to being bullied out of Friendfeed. We were in the marching... more... - Eric - 100% Choice Cuts

Robert, I can see your point, but when you say, "FF is dead." can scare people off. I love FF and will go down with it. I do admit not posting a lot here and spending more time at FB, but when people hear something is dead does send fear in them and they stop using it or they just don't even give it a chance. Everyone has an opinion and that is mine. - Mol, FF Music Lover

Eric: that's why I've been so pissy. The truth is that many of the geeks I like listening to have already left and aren't here anymore. Visit http://twitter.com/scoblei... (I've done more than 6,000 of those since Facebook bought FriendFeed). How many of those people are here? Almost none. Out of 50,000 people who follow me here how many are actually here? Virtually none. So,... more... - Robert Scoble

...we have to leave and go somewhere else. I've largely chosen to invest a lot of time in other communities. Twitter in particular is where I've seen most of the developers and geeks and influentials that I like listening to, and studying, hanging out. Today I was at Apple talking with the guy who runs the iTunes iPhone App Team. He's on Twitter. He's not here. Why isn't he here? For a whole lot of reasons. He's also on Facebook. Why not here? Well, that's why I start "FriendFeed is dead" discussions to... - Robert Scoble

...rile you up so you figure out what FriendFeed is good for. Maybe it no longer is good for me. Maybe it'll just be for an ultra small audience to hang out in. That's cool. But that's not what I signed up for and why I invested thousands of hours here. Anyway, I've said my bit about it. Now we'll see what happens. Onward. - Robert Scoble

Friendfeed isn't even close to being over anyways. Uniess I have missed something. Sure, it was bought by Facebook, but that doesn't mean Friendfeed is just going to go POOF! That is unless it starts doing magic tricks. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

Scoble, it is fine if it isn't the thing for you. Personally, I use Twitter, Facebook and Friendfeed for different things and reasons. If you don't want to be a part of Friendfeed anymore stop trying to come in and convince others that they need to leave FF and go to wherever you think they should go. I'm not totally saying you are doing that, but I do get a bit of a vibe that you are. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

Mathew: sorry. But I helped make FriendFeed by doing that over and over and over to people over on Twitter. So there. You obviously didn't mind when I was evangelizing FOR FriendFeed, or did you? I had a lot of hate over there for doing that. - Robert Scoble

Well, I didn't discover your presence until I came to Friendfeed, it was actually Steve Issacs who brought Friendfeed to my attention. It isn't that i don't like you trying to convince people to use another service, but I don't like people trying to convince others to leave one service entirely and move to another. There are many people who pretty much tell me that Facebook sucks and I should leave it, but I don't care, I like what i use it for and that is that. Same with Friendfeed. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

This is what I'll miss when it's all over, these discussions. THIS is why Friendfeed. THIS is why it's important. This conversation we just had, with so many others included, intelligent people, being able to follow the whole thing easily, without the need to track down @ symbols # tags or scroll down down down to find the active discussion. We didn't need to link to external services,... more... - Eric - 100% Choice Cuts

You helped make it. You make me so sick. You really have an inflated idea of yourself, Robert. Perhaps you did, but that doesn't make you into some sort of god here. People ought to just ignore you more. I don't know why they don't. I'd barely heard of you until I came to FF, either. Just a few negative things scattered around about you on Mashable and TechCrunch (which I've since learned that I can't trust so much). - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

@Eric Maybe we will get lucky and ALL THIS will be what Facebook pretty much becomes. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

I just hope I can find everyone again. - Eric - 100% Choice Cuts

Kamilah: yeah, this is the kind of discourse we are going to expect, huh? Listen, this is why people are leaving. They have to put up with personal attacks like this. Sigh. I'll tell you what I've done for FriendFeed. I gave dozens of talks all over the world where I personally showed it off. At many big conferences. Many small ones. I talked about it OVER AND OVER on Twitter and on my... more... - Robert Scoble

@Eric There is a small collection of them on Facebook here: http://www.facebook.com/group... - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

Even the FriendFeed team admits I've done more than anyone else to get them into the position they did. You might ask Paul about that. Even better. He said it when I interviewed him after they sold to Facebook. - Robert Scoble

@Kamilah Actually, I will have to say you are being a bit harsh. Robert did do good things for Friendfeed, he did bring many people here. We may not agree with what he is saying now, but it is his opinion and he is entitled to have it and voice it. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

I did not say he couldn't have an opinion. He needs to learn how to not talk down to people. When I asked him a question earlier, he told me to go learn how to hide things. As if I hadn't been here since May 2008. WITHOUT ever hearing anything from him about it to get here in the first place. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

Yeah, he can be like that. I don't know, I'm just tired of people bickering back and forth here. And it all stems from the acquisition. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

Kamilah: you were being rude and I was rude back and then you escalated your rudeness. That's cool. I'm out of here. What did you do for FriendFeed to help make it a success? How will you turn around the line at http://siteanalytics.compete.com/friendf... ? It won't be me. I gave dozens of talks, invested thousands of hours here, talked about it incessantly on Twitter and my blog... more... - Robert Scoble

Scoble & Kamilah: It was straightforward, harsh, but I'd even hazard perhaps fair, who here can't say that aren't guilty of some degree of making things personal ie this post itself. @Scoble fast forwarding to today, I agree you factored in largely building FF up, but now you're perhaps factoring the same tearing it down? Yeah, it's wait & see. But I believe! Remember the butterfly. (oh & good night!) - sofarsoShawn <right here>

sofarsoShawn: you are ascribing to me too much power. Anyway, I will see you later. It's clear I'm getting too emotionally wrapped up in this. The geeks aren't here and that bums me out. - Robert Scoble

The geeks aren't here? goes back to writing her dissertation ----->>> - Katy S

Apparently FF's "dead" because the geeks are gone, having pronounced it dead the day Facebook took over. But while it's still here, I'm still promoting it to my relatively small Twitter following, and especially the NaNoWriMo group (as NaNo's around the corner). http://friendfeed.com/nanowri... As for that Facebook group, I just joined it. - Dennis Jernberg

Dennis: that was a test statement, by the way. So far two people disagreed with it. Not really a good sign that I'm wrong, huh? Sigh. - Robert Scoble

It depends what type of geek you mean, Robert. And people are probably scared off the threads this evening, too. - WoH: Minding her Steves

Well, Robert, it is close to 2am EST, I'm willing to bet that plenty of the east coast and central US folks are in bed. - Katy S

Eric, reading this, I couldn't help but liken parts of this convo to what it was like to do IT in the Springs. Or anything, given that everyone in Denver thinks that the Springs is some inferior city or that no one in CA thinks outside of this state, or that Silicon Valley is its own world unto itself. For anyone to declare that FF is dead smacks of this same weirdness around anyone... more... - Criz

... so my take on it is to continue building your own community where you feel comfortable. If that's here on FF, then stay at it. But I agree that all the talk of FF is dead might drive away some from using it... but then again, another audience may just jump in, right? - Criz

I don't like how people are attacking Robert for his opinion. I disagree with him, but I'm not going to personally attack him like some people here have. Robert has just as a right to his opinion that you all have. We may not agree with it, but attacking him personally, IMHO is not cool. I still like Robert and think he's cool. I disagree with a lot of the things he says, but he just... more... - Mol, FF Music Lover

I'd like to know which geeks are gone, because the last time I checked everyone here is pretty much a geek in someway and if all the geeks left then everyone would be gone. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

I'm not a tech geek, but I consider myself a pop culture geek. I love music, movies and TV shows. Some people my call me a Britcom geek because I love British sitcoms. - Mol, FF Music Lover

Exactly, there are so many different types of geeks out there that you can't say that the geeks have left. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

Mathew: sorry, I can say that. I've been tracking geek traffic here longer than anyone. And just because there are a few of us still here doesn't mean that the crowds are still here. I have 50,000 followers here, but they don't come here anymore and that's provable. - Robert Scoble

Technically FF is FB now, so they /are/ bigger than everybody else... - Chris Heath

I doubt all 50,000 of your followers are gone. And aren't a majority of those people just those who barely used the service to begin with? When you have that many followers on ANY service, you are going to have that issue. For example, you can't say that all your Twitter followers add something to your feed, you have those spammers, those that tweet about meaningless things and people who have barely used the service. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

Amen, Eric. - Shey

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