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RSS Subscribers or Twitter Followers: Which Are Worth More? - http://gigaom.com/2009...
Susan Beebe, diego morelli, Antonio Correnti and 21 other people liked this
Answer: blog readers. :)
- Jason Nunnelley
Soon subscribing and following won't matter. Publishing good stuff that people "like" will matter most with the only little advantage in having a lot of subscribers or followers will be that your good content might reach more people faster.
- Charbax
“Under a direct comparison, I would say that RSS subscribers are worth more than Twitter followers,” says Daniel Scocco
- kang
RSS, of course
- Louis Gray
RSS with REtweet option at the FEED
- Gaith
how does growth in google reader users compare to growth in twitter/facebook users?
- Brian Hendrickson
gotta agree. RSS. Twitter is great as cloudthink, but not the best for organizing things. At least not for those with lives that don't involve looking at it all day long :)
- Jorge Chapa
RSS. They're more engaged with the content.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
RSS is clearly superior. You don't subscribe to a feed unless you wish to engage with the writer.
- Jack B
It all depends on how to Monetize it
- Rob Cairns
Ask a teenager and they'd likely say they're both worthless and are for old folks. It's all relative and dependant on who your target audience is. I find RSS subscribers to be of greater value, but there is value in the real-time echo chamber of Twitter. The value with Twitter lies in the ability to reach broader audience numbers faster and pull them in as RSS subscribers.
- Jim Goldstein
Twitter is two-way and thus allows built-in communication/feedback. RSS is one-way and does not. I'd have to go with Twitter on this one.
- Jeff Harbert
Followers. It's like writing and publishing a book, selling it, and then nobody makes any comments, or any feedback. Twitter makes that happen, RSS is helpful (I use it daily), but Twitter is two-way. Sorry RSS, but looks like you need to expand your highway.
- Zachary TG
Dave Winer is gonna come in here and smack you for comparing Twitter to RSS
- @baratunde
Interesting article. I think it is a different animal. RSS is passive, Twitter is an active process of conversation. I guess the same has been said earlier in this stream conversation. For me personally, more business has been done in the interaction on Twitter. I also have discovered more new things on Ttwitter than any other way.
- Eran Even-Kesef
part of the "value" is how much you know about your new audience member. a new follower on Twitter/Facebook/Friendfeed (if it's not a spammer) includes useful/interesting info about who just joined your network
- Brian Hendrickson
RSS. Hands down.
- Johnny
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RSS all the way!
- outofmyarse
RSS subbies ...
- johnpiercy
Both, mostly, the information in a tweet are very interesting but the author would never write a blog post about such a short tought...
- Antonio Correnti
RSS is like a DVR -- you can save everythign to read later. Twitter is real-time, so most people followers will miss your Tweets anyway. It's all about the spiral of silence.
- Steve Lynch
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All about the likes... especially when you consider Facebook and Google's future impact on our notions of "following" or "subscribing."
- Sam Harrelson
Like the others... it's RSS. Too much gets lost in the stream of twitter. Even if you don't have a massive network. RSS feeds are there waiting for me. And I only subscribe to the stuff I really care about.
- adam christensen
The question should be about value. What have you given to your readers via RSS/Twitter? You build your communities/followers/friends through giving information/knowledge that they find useful. Twitter is about sharing, not selling. Build trust first. Engage. Both RSS/Twitter work in tandem.
- iconic88
Both have a lot of value and the best/most interesting bloggers know how to leverage both medium. Fred Wilson is a perfect example of twitter, blogging and discuss/comments working in concert to create a very active community.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Which is better - Cake or Pizza?
- Robert Freeze
Jim: im a teenager (im 17) - i dont think their worthless. i would have to say twitter - why? if you where to stop posting to your blog today, nothing would be sent to your subscribers... right?
- Chris Clayton
I just declared bankruptcy on my google reader and dumped 1000+ unread feeds, that said, I still think RSS is a very powerful way of connecting with your readers. Twitter is important, but more flighty because it is so temporal in nature. Whereas a feed sits in your reader until you are ready to look at it.
- Peggy Dolane
Who cares? As long as the people are active, comment, join the conversation and come back - that what matters. The source matters for statistics. P.S. Came here from a twitter RT :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
My blog readers pay more than mere followers or even socnet friends.
- Bernie Goldbach
And I thought I heard somewhere RSS was slowly fading away...Or maybe it's time for it to evolve? I would also vote for RSS.
- Zack Brandit
I think a better question is 'RSS Readers or Friendfeed Subscribers: Which are worth more'
- Steven Cains
I've always viewed RSS subscribers as being worth about 10x a Twitter follower. FriendFeed is up in the air because I think the number of people with accounts >>> the people who actively use it.
- Gary
RSS > Facebook Fans > FriendFeed > Twitter
- Gary
quoting Jason, blog readers.
- diego morelli
RSS
- Burak Arikan
Watching Scoble correct his actions. He knows quality is more important than quantity, he's unfollowing 93k folks
Daniel J. Pritchett, Samuel Driessen and Hutch Carpenter liked this
He unfollowed me and I give him major props for it. No person or thing can really follow that many people. The river becomes a very muddy river...
- adam christensen
the worst thing about being a parent is the helpless feeling when your boy is sick at least the antibiotics should kick-in soon #fb
I know that feeling very, very well... Hope the kiddo gets better.
- adam christensen
Obama To Create A 'Pay Czar' - http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-t...
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"The Obama administration sure likes a good czar. The latest one that should send shivers up Wall Street's spine: a 'pay czar'. Their job would be to ensure that companies which have received help from the government follow appropriate guidelines. The position, says WSJ, will go to Kenneth Feinberg, who previously handled compensation for the families of 9/11 victims."
- Noah David Simon
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"Appropriate guidelines" == more government control of business == creeping towards Communism
- Craig Eddy
Welcome to socialism / communism Obama style. Notice the word czar isn't that a Russian word. Already changing words so we accept communism as well.
- Russ Jackson
The word tsar in Russia was used for the Russian emperors up until 1917 (ie, pre-Bolshevik revolution). Not that I disagree with your first statement, of course, Russ.
- Craig Eddy
Another useless government position. This guy wants "czars" t control everything it seems. You are crazy if you think this will only apply to government controlled businesses.
- Spencer
The negative effects of this kind of encroachment will be felt for a long time after Obama's gone.
- adam christensen
it will be interesting to see how future American leaders will view the precedent established by the Obama-Nation. Time is always an interesting factor when dealing with politics. most things on the left look good in the short term. do you think all those Obama stickers will last the anger of the American citizen when they come to their senses? the image in my mind is all those Lenin statues falling in the 90s.
- Noah David Simon
Re: Smarter finance. - http://www.parkparadigm.com/2009...
"I'm glad you noticed the Smarter Planet efforts from IBM. I'm involved in that work at IBM (I do a lot of the blogging work on the Smarter Planet blog you referenced above). I appreciate your comments and agree... we still have a ways to go to improve the 2-way dialogue. But we are getting there. With regard to the specific issue on Smarter Financial Services... there's a lot of work going on that we are excited to talk about... we just need to get to that. We've been really focused on talking about the smarter cities, healthcare and energy/Smart Grid work. But there's a lot of great work going on to really understand how to work with the financial services industry to embed better intelligence throughout the system - to fundamentally change the way risk is understood and managed. This goes far beyond just IBM, obviously. But we hope we can play a role in improving the systems so we can avoid the kinds of massive, systemic turmoil we are seeing today. I'd love to hear more of your..."
- adam christensen
Re: Lost Pearblossom Highway - http://gregor.us/califor...
"Excellent post... Aside from the inherent cultural issue at play, which you outline, in Southern California, the biggest enemies to widespread commuter rail adoption are the dual problems of commercial sprawl and residential sprawl. No one I know actually works in downtown LA. So until there is a spider-web system of light rail, most people will continue as they do now because, as you suggest, there isn't any choice (driving to catch a train, then catching a bus, then walking or catching a taxi to the office isn't a choice for most people). But until that spider system of light rail is built, I wonder how much of a change could be brought about by providing some significant incentives to businesses to put their offices in walking proximity to rail lines? Perhaps this system exists already, but it would seem to help counter the tendency to move farther and farther from the few centers of business that are currently served by rail. That only solves for the commercial sprawl part of the..."
- adam christensen
PR peeps: Next week I'll be in New York. Tell me why I should visit your company/clients here: http://friendfeed.com/pitchsc... Thanks!
I have a whole day free in New York. I wanna know why I should come and see your company. I'm especially looking for innovative Internet companies. Fred Wilson are you free?
- Robert Scoble
You ever going to come up and visit Toronto, Ontario?
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
You should grab a coffee with Slooh founder Michael Paolucci. When NASA planned to take the Hubble down in 2003, Michael started a grassroots movement at savethehubble.org. Thousands of people joined him to petition Congress to provide additional funding to keep the Hubble aloft and in service. Michael saw how Hubble ignited excitement in astronomy and created Slooh (www.slooh.com), an...
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- Tom Parnell
Timely too with the Hubble repair mission right now ;)
- Tom Parnell
Chris: no plans yet, but would love to get there.
- Robert Scoble
Tom: do you know Michael?
- Robert Scoble
Yeah - want me to e-mail you some contact info?
- Tom Parnell
Hi Robert, What day are you there? CEO of Aster Data is speaking at the Web 3.0 conference on Wed (20th). Aster helps companies like MySpace and Coremetrics (and other big names soon to be announced) gather, manage, and analyze huge amounts of 'big data' to do things like 1) improve the customer experience, recommendations, etc., 2) help reduce fraud, and 3) improve the profitability of...
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- Zenobia Austin Godschalk
Tom: or if you could introduce us via email, that would be great. scobleizer@gmail.com or +1-425-205-1921
- Robert Scoble
Zenobia: next Thursday, the 21st.
- Robert Scoble
Sounds good, Robert!
- Tom Parnell
I sent this the last time you asked, but in case you didn't get it... You should meet with Triton media (www.tritonmedia.com), they are in NY next week too. They are a one-stop shop for radio stations that offers tools to help them build their digital engagement and drive revenues. Mobile platforms, local search, etc
- Maya Benyehuda
Love to get together. Alan -BlogTalkRadio
- alan
You should interview @skydiver if he is in town
- Jadito
Ah, too bad you'll miss each other by a day. Let me know next time you'll be in the Valley, or we'll call on the next Northwest trip.
- Zenobia Austin Godschalk
Hi Robert, Just arrived in this scene, Man! you are one busy person! do you ever sleep?lol
- Bob Heath
Bob: define sleep. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert... hey man... I'm late on this... but let me know if you want to swing by the IBM Watson labs. I know last time you are out at the Almaden labs we'd talked about coming by Watson (maybe we can have you chat with the guys who are building the system to compete on Jeopardy!). Anyhow, let me know. Cheers - Adam
- adam christensen
Adam: how far is that from downtown? I'm staying at Kitano Hotel (66 Park Avenue, at 38th Street)
- Robert Scoble
Robert -Unbound Technologies, speaking at Web 3.0 (Tue, 5/19), their Social Network Intelligence (SNI) platform identifies, analyzes and monitors the demographics, geolocation and affinities of more than 260 million social media users, communities and influencers.
- Matt Landry
Robert... hmm...the lab is outside the city... but maybe we can do something to bring the folks and a demo down. Not sure... stay tuned while I try and find out.
- adam christensen
Re: California Oil - http://gregor.us/oil...
"Growing up in Southern California I was always curious about the oil fields we'd always pass in Huntington Beach. I always thought they were oddly out of place... seeing fields of small oil rigs just a block from some of the beautiful beaches in Huntington Beach. Since they predated me by many decades, they held a certain level of charm, I guess. Over the past 15 years, they've been largely replaced by residential real estate as that market has, apparently, become much more valuable than oil production. I guess it's not surprising given the premium location, but were those fields still productive? Or did they lose production before they started to transition to real estate. If they were still productive, and in light of depressed housing prices in California, I wonder at what oil-per-barrel-price the transition from oil production to real estate becomes a poorly made choice. As you've pointed out, oil won't stay at $50/barrel previously. If it rides at $200 again, and if there was..."
- adam christensen
Why Every Company Needs a Social Media Policy - http://marketingmystic.wordpress.com/2009...
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IBM and Intel have social media guidelines for employees
- Hutch Carpenter
There was a blog post recently on IBM's social media policy, but they looked more like guidelines. In my follow-up post, I've suggested that companies need to differentiate between the two.
- MiaD
MiaD, What do you consider the difference between policy and guidelines? We (IBM) consider the guidelines (http://www.ibm.com/blogs...) to suffice as both, really... It wasn't clear to me from your blog post how you distinguish between the two... Am interested in your opinion.
- adam christensen
@adam, you'll have to read my follow-up post http://bit.ly/ZMo1Z for that :) But simply put, policies are specific, enforceable, and violations have serious consequences, whereas guidelines are just that..guidelines, they are more general in nature like best practices. I checked out the link, looks like IBM has chosen to enforce all guidelines - "Violation of any IBM guideline is cause...
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- MiaD
Twitter Litter most followers dont really follow you - http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_nex...
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While that is true explain how I learned about the Chinese earthquake 45 minutes before CNN or the Hudson plane crash about five minutes after it happened. Truth is I am able to see patterns others are not as to. I have a video on how I read Tweets at http://www.kyte.tv/scobleizer
- Robert Scoble
Nice post. Robert, what you are saying though is that for you, the power is in the complete aggregate of the feed, not in the individuals, for the most part. Sure, the aggregate is comprised of individual posts, but the power for you comes from seeing a wave of 80K posts. What's nice is that there are clearly different uses for different folks. I'm trying to pare down my following list significantly. Not because I don't want to learn, but because I want to follow fewer but go deeper...
- adam christensen
It doesn't matter if we are talking about Twitter , passing out flyers of a local rock show, or eye balls on a tv commercial. The return has always been 1% and that will never change. Some may claim better results in marketing, but those numbers have always seemed soft to me. It's a numbers game and you need those ridiculous numbers people like Scoble have to get a respectable result.
- MarkCarras
I'm new to twitter. 10 days ago I start this experimental social game @i_spy_treasure. Half an hour after I created the account and before I even figured out who to follow and why I had about 30 followers. Virtually all of them were following >2500 accounts. I know Robert and Guy somehow scan their stream (I see them reply to people) but I'm sure most of the others don't even bother to scan theirs. I can't help but wonder how much of twitter's data center capacity is wasted on those mega followers.
- I Spy
I Spy: well, Twitter is encouraging this behavior with its recommended follower list that has almost exclusively either brands or celebrities. So, I'm sure it doesn't bother them too much.
- Robert Scoble
Here's a thought. I would recommend twitter to charge some nominal fee for every account being followed (first 100 are free). This way, casual users, can use twitter for free. People who use it for some marketing purpose, should pay. I'm sure twitter's capacity problems will go away overnight and as a side benefit twitter may make a few bucks too (Not too much, I suspect...)
- I Spy
I Spy: if you did that Twitter hype would stop immediately and everyone would switch over to friendfeed. By the way, Twitter has ALWAYS had technical problems, even when it didn't have many users. Friendfeed's architecture is 1000x better.
- Robert Scoble
The power for me with 4000 followers is I can throw out a question and usually get five or six quick responses. Of course I could get those responses from google, but human responses are more fun, and some lead to conversations or further connection. Anyone remember what "fun" is?
- Stephen Pickering
Also I think people forget that the power of a network, any network, increases by the number of people connected to it squared. So that power is enough to completely blow away the so called "litter"
- Stephen Pickering
The article makes two false assumptions: 1) that users such as Scoble and Kawasaki represent "most people" on Twitter (they don't) and 2) that it somehow matters that everyone read everything that streams past (it doesn't).
- Vicki Brown
there was a cool website I used once to clean out my twitter account. It showed you who was updating their account and who basically did a drive by and then never updated again. I removed everyone that hadn't posted in the past two months. It got rid of about 30 or so accounts that way.
- Jason Shultz
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@Stephen. You can throw out a question and your followers will respond. I get that. But if I follow you and I ask a question, what are the odds that you, following 4000 people, will see that question and contribute?
- I Spy
I wish I could exclude any twitter post that has #sxsw in it for the coming week. I'm no longer going and it's clogging my stream.
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greasemonkey script??
- Roberto Bonini
someone else recommended using tweetdeck, which can do this. But I hate Tweetdeck. Greasemonkey script would probably work well. Too bad I'm too technically stupid to figure it out...
- adam christensen
Why can't we deal with the truth? http://www.youtube.com/watch... Peter Schiff was right about economy.
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Because the truth is darned inconvenient at times
- Dennis Howlett
He was dead right. The hubris of the other talking heads who found Schiff's perspective discomforting is simultaneously annoying and laughable.
- Jeff Ventura
people were still celebrating in 2006! fuel prices weren't at the all time high yet and apple just released their god phone! it was fun and too good to be true. 20/20 hindsight for sure
- Elijah Nicolas
Wow... He's like Cassandra... Need to go find out what he's saying now.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
And politicians will now get us out of recession? Not likely. Oh, did I mention Ron Paul? Never mind. Nobody listens.
- Stan Orchard
No matter what happens, someone somewhere "predicted" it.
- Soulhuntre
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Loving this!
- Kahlil Lechelt
Does Peter Schiff have a blog or RSS feed?
- Matthew DeVries
yes, but I am not sure I agree with his ideas around having no stimulus packages. Stimulus packages, esp. the one that is beginning to take form is geared less towards consumption and more towards adding intrinsic value like building better technological infrastructure, schools etc.
- Bindu Reddy
But it's going toward infrastructure that is inherently inefficient. Roads and bridges, when it should be for rails and mass tran. A train can move a ton 1000 miles on a gallon of diesel.
- Matthew DeVries
wow, this is frightening how accurate his predictions were. And sad how badly they were mocked at the time. I applaud people's perennially optimistic views, but when it comes to giving advice for other people's finances, these people were dumber than a kindergarten student. Ben Stein's recommendation? Buy financial stocks in 2007? Wish there were more people like Peter Schiff... thanks for posting Scoble...
- adam christensen
Matthew: I don't think we should be building either roads or trains. We need broadband and wifi everywhere. That'll help our economy escape better than building another road. At least the skills people will build can be used elsewhere in the world as the rest of the world wants to build out its broadband infrastructure.
- Robert Scoble
we're a nation of optimists. no one likes pessimism when it comes to the health of economy...
- Lee Hsieh
Delusion != optimism
- Todd Hoff
Hear about Peter on NPR a week or two ago. They guy knows his stuff. Amazing how the echo chamber works on TV for financial news.
- Jim Goldstein
I was listening but I did nothing ... and am now poorer (on paper) than before by a heck of a lot. Even said I'd sell all my equities but did not.
- Robert Denton
Me too Robert. I do that a lot for some reason.
- Todd Hoff
I agree Robert about need to equalize the availability of knowledge, but I don't see that putting nearly enough people to work today, shovels in the ground so to speak. Line crews and wifi techs? Are there even enough of them to put to work? What is the learning curve on those jobs?
- Matthew DeVries
Wow, that video is almost hard to watch. It's tough to be the madman in the wilderness.
- mikepk
what is missed is the fact that the people being targeted by these shows are Nincompoops spread around the country. The people who have any insight into the fundamentals know what is in store and what is true value.Reason enough to not bestow titles of GURU on TOM DICK & HARRY.
- Baba
this interview with schiff is pretty scary. if he's right about this too...wow. part1: http://www.youtube.com/watch... part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Kahlil Lechelt
and the truth shall set you free!!
- Paul
Here's a link to Peter's current thoughts... http://www.financialsense.com/fsu...
- Mike Mikolay
Dharmendra S Modha's Cognitive Computing Blog: IBM Awarded DARPA funding via SyNAPSE Program - http://p9.hostingprod.com/@modha...
"So cognitive computing is the quest to engineer mind-like intelligent business machines by reverse-engineering the computational function of the brain."
- adam christensen
Dharmendra S Modha's Cognitive Computing Blog: IBM Awarded DARPA funding via SyNAPSE Program - http://p9.hostingprod.com/@modha...
"So cognitive computing is the quest to engineer mind-like intelligent business machines by reverse-engineering the computational function of the brain."
- adam christensen
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19 Things To Consider When Planning A Blogger Launch Event - http://www.smstextnews.com/2008...
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Good advice for PR and marketing types.
- Robert Scoble
this is good advice. Though, with the exception of #12, it's the same advice I'd give for any event - for bloggers, press, customers or all three...
- adam christensen
Google, GE Join Up to Tackle Energy Policy & Tech - GigaOM - http://gigaom.com/2008...
Google and GE talking about a "smarter electricity grid".
- adam christensen
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A Wireless Fix for Beijing Gridlock - http://www.resourcecenter.busi...
Beijing is hoping a swarm of taxis outfitted with GPS location sensors will help untangle its snarled traffic in time for the Olympic Games. The fudong che or "floating car" program sucks up data streamed from nearly every one of the capital's 66,000 taxis, recording their location and speed. A computer crunches this data to build a real-time view of traffic flows. When the driver punches in his next destination, fudong che sends back directions for the fastest, least congested route. Simulations of the system showed that if just 30% of Beijing's cars took part, commuting times would fall by 16% and carbon dioxide emissions would be reduced by 27%.
- jackmason
do we have anything to do with the Beijing system? on another question... what other elements are part of the whole smart city thought? Transportation is one. Health? Government? I'd love to see more of the whole picture...
- adam christensen
Op-Ed Columnist - Making America Stupid - Op-Ed - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
great article by friedman.
- adam christensen
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Magazine Preview - I’m So Totally, Digitally Close to You - Clive Thompson - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
A great article in about a the new digital relationships, looking at the historical and cultural impacts of constant social awareness. Interesting insights on Twitter and Facebook...
- adam christensen
Re: louisgray.com: The LDS/Facebook Rumor Didn't Pass the Common Sense Test - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
"Louis - wow. I mean wow. I hadn't heard that one yet. I'm glad you brought it to my attention - no doubt I'm going to get lots of questions at work tomorrow (BYU grad, etc. here). So this is a good heads up. If folks are interested in understanding the family history designs of the Church, it's worth taking a look at familysearch.org. People will see the existing resources available to the public and see that the unstructured nature of random relationships in Facebook really isn't related to anything the Church is interested in. That said, there could be some interesting value in more people using facebook or other social networks to connect with distant relatives who are also doing research on the same family lines. What if you had facebook "fan" pages for some prominent 19th century relative. It could be used as a place to coordinate and share research among distant relatives. OK, now I'm just riffing on a tangent. Nice post. Thanks."
- adam christensen
Re: louisgray.com: The LDS/Facebook Rumor Didn't Pass the Common Sense Test - http://live.louisgray.com/2008...
"Louis - wow. I mean wow. I hadn't heard that one yet. I'm glad you brought it to my attention - no doubt I'm going to get lots of questions at work tomorrow (BYU grad, etc. here). So this is a good heads up. If folks are interested in understanding the family history designs of the Church, it's worth taking a look at familysearch.org. People will see the existing resources available to the public and see that the unstructured nature of random relationships in Facebook really isn't related to anything the Church is interested in. That said, there could be some interesting value in more people using facebook or other social networks to connect with distant relatives who are also doing research on the same family lines. What if you had facebook "fan" pages for some prominent 19th century relative. It could be used as a place to coordinate and share research among distant relatives. OK, now I'm just riffing on a tangent. Nice post. Thanks."
- adam christensen
Re: louisgray.com: The LDS/Facebook Rumor Didn't Pass the Common Sense Test - http://blog.louisgray.com/2008...
"Louis - wow. I mean wow. I hadn't heard that one yet. I'm glad you brought it to my attention - no doubt I'm going to get lots of questions at work tomorrow (BYU grad, etc. here). So this is a good heads up. If folks are interested in understanding the family history designs of the Church, it's worth taking a look at familysearch.org. People will see the existing resources available to the public and see that the unstructured nature of random relationships in Facebook really isn't related to anything the Church is interested in. That said, there could be some interesting value in more people using facebook or other social networks to connect with distant relatives who are also doing research on the same family lines. What if you had facebook "fan" pages for some prominent 19th century relative. It could be used as a place to coordinate and share research among distant relatives. OK, now I'm just riffing on a tangent. Nice post. Thanks."
- adam christensen
the RIAA has taken down Muxtape http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... so so bad news :(
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I've always wondered when this would happen. Sad though.
- Deepak Singh
The RIAA needs to understand that instead of being a bully and screwing over the very fans that help musicians make a living, they should be helping sites like Muxtape flourish because they encourage music discovery. The radio model is broken. Music discovery is dead on the radio. To discover, you need to be able to share, to explore music with friends, etc. I've bought more music...
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- adam christensen
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Muxtape was pretty far across the line in terms of allowing people to easily choose what they listen to...shouldn't be a surprise when you're offering something so close to having actual possession of the songs.
- Q dub
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another one bites the dust :( bad news indeed
- Dave Q
DailyTech - Bronx Woman to Pay $756 per Song in RIAA Piracy Settlement - http://www.dailytech.com/Bronx+W...
More crap from the RIAA in their crusade against music fans.
- adam christensen
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Comment on: RIAA Takes Down Muxtape, Will Future Solutions Please Hurry Up & Arrive? - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
The RIAA needs to understand that instead of being a bully and screwing over the very fans that help musicians make a living, they should be helping sites like Muxtape flourish because they encourage music discovery. The radio model is broken. Music discovery is dead on the radio. To discover, you need to be able to share, to explore music with friends, etc. I've bought more music because I've heard friends music online or in other places than I have through any RIAA-approved method. Stupid and counterproductive.
- adam christensen
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Where does your last name (surname) come from or mean, do you know the history? Share your heritage, I'll go first...tag it #surname
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#surname Reed (my married name) has both irish and english antecedents. It also has a connection to the Swiss version 'Rhorer' which interestingly enough is family name of my mother's people. My side is from the McCleods (scots) O, and it means red-haired or ruddish or the old english meaning a clearing in the woods. (Sorry. @Jeremiah I didn't "read" your directions clearly. ;) )
- Melanie Reed
#surname: Rai. (pronounced 'rye') From India, a very common surname. It has some caste connotations which I once knew, but have since forgotten/ignored. Having grown up in Singapore, and now being in Aust, I use it as a 'first name'. (My real 3-syllable 1st name being too much for most). So 'Rai' is pretty special to me, what with playing two parts n all. Why did I include this seemingly inconsequential tidbit? Cos I'm adding to its history ;)
- Rai
Longman. long man. nickname for a tall person.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Christensen = Danish for (obviously) "Son of Christen" (variant of Christian). #surname
- adam christensen
Carpenter = anglicized version of Zimmerman (family was Swiss German way back in the day). House builder, I'd guess. #surname
- Hutch Carpenter
Ingram was originally Ingraham, from Ing (a Germanic king) and the word for "raven"; why Ing needed a raven I don't know; #surname
- mathew ingram
Gentry == the upper middle class, which turns out to be wishful thinking on the part of my ancestors.
- DGentry
#surname Korn was pronounced Korrin (rolling rr) when family came from Poland before WWII. Believe it meant crown.
- Justin Korn
#surname Kless, my kids actually did a little research on this recently and couldn't wait to tell me that it meant "conquering people" and the name hailed from Russian and German ancestry as a deritive of Klaus. They were all full of themselves once they found out.
- Larry Kless
'Tregaskes' is Cornish (from Cornwall in England) but I believe came from Spain.France as 'Gaskes' original. The Cornish added their usual 'Tre' to the start of the surname
- Kol Tregaskes
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#surname Billstrom- read that in the mid 1800s there were too many Larssons and Nilssons in Sweden, so they gave the middle class a list of suffixes & prefixes, and you go to the post office and pick a new surname. Voila, Bill Strom, which is (town of Billstra) + Stream , like Nordstrom - north + stream. Americanized on Ellis Island by taking the umlaut off the o. That's pretty neat- seeing your ancestor's signatures on Ellis' website.
- anna sauce
Kamath - Karma + Mathi (Sanskrit) or Kamma +Mathi (Pali) - meaning work+soil.We probably were from a farming community .
- Kamath (नमः)
#surname Dawson - anglican verison of "Daw -Sa" Burmese. Heres an old post of mine http://peterdawson.blogspot.com/2008...
- Peter Dawson
#surname Loyless - Kilkenny, Ireland is as far back as I've traced it. It originally was "Lawless" & was changed in the early 1800s
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
My last name, "Hrudicka," is Czech. I know quite a bit about my family's history on both sides, about 9 nationalities. #surname
- Cathryn Hrudicka
did I miss something? Where's an Owyang history/
- anna sauce
I said it in twitter actually. Essentially, it's two last names Ow-Yang that were put together.
- Jeremiah Owyang
My mom's side of the family has a family web site w/many historical docs & photos. There is a "Hrudicka" site, must check. #surname
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Ow seems old-school pinyin
- anna sauce
My #surname, Baltuth, is a corruption of Baltutis, Lithuanian for white.
- Raphael, Raphael
sir percival, knight of the roundtable :)
- sean percival
Eisenberg = Iron Mountain. Paternal family from Latvia and surrounding areas. Maternal side traces back to France. #surname
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
#surname Steven is Greek for "royal". Perez is Hebrew for "rupture". Put them together and you get "royal pain", which is disturbingly accurate.
- Steven Perez
I think my last name means to blog...either that or it's just a name from somewhere in the british isles that I have no idea what the origin is.
- Alex Scoble
The origins of my name is Scottish.
- Phillip Jeffrey
#Surname Rabago. Habitational name from Rábago in Cantabria province of Spain. Meaning King of Kings is what I'm told
- Ricardo Rabago
two versions. the first, Hebrew meaning gazelle. the second; originating in the north of Spain in the Basque region with ties to nobility and a region there called Tierra de Ayala (land of Ayala) #ayala #surname.
- Carlos Ayala
[OT] How are you collecting your hastags fr FF ?
- Peter Dawson
What do the freaking tech bloggers want? - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
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Sorry for the long rant. It's just I had a lot to say about the topic.
- Robert Scoble
heck, publish that and it's your second book. nice thoughts... thanks.
- adam christensen
What every geek wants! The hot chicks, the cool toyz, and a private Star Wars screening with Lucas.
- Todd Jordan
Todd: well, I have two out of those three. I saw Star Wars with the guys who started Hotmail, though. Does that count? :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: we'll go with that for private screening. :)
- Todd Jordan
Oh yeah, LOVE - they want comment love, and soc net love - hint hint
- Todd Jordan
Nathan: cliff notes? I'm looking at differentiating myself from other tech bloggers. That means telling PR people (most of them, anyway) to either get me interesting and different stories than TechCrunch gets, or routing around them and finding my own stories that don't require them to be involved at all (like StackOverflow).
- Robert Scoble
Robert: cultivating a variety of relationships has got to be key. I'd wager your biggest key to success is two things: persistence, relationship building.
- Todd Jordan
Winnov! I integrated those into a video conferencing project back in the '90s.
- Northorn
I thought I was going to hate it, but it made total sense. Thanks for not ranting!
- Jason Kintzler
Zee: I don't know why your stuff is still getting moderated. I approved it, though.
- Robert Scoble
Will someone tell Scoble PitchEngine is worthy of a look-see? Zee? htttp://pitchengine.com/alpha
- Jason Kintzler
Jason: if you're gonna pitch me, at least get the URL right! :-) Here it is: http://pitchengine.com/alpha/
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Zee! Goldberg, will you second?
- Jason Kintzler
Thanks, must have been the nervous jitters...
- Jason Kintzler
Def. need to check out PitchEngine...worth a look.
- Eric Miltsch
Great post. Just had a meeting with PR and AR today, so your post was especially refreshing to me.
- Matthias Zeller
Robert, I believe that this is one of your better posts. Thanks!
- Tal Keinan
My office is in Wyoming, we can Qik-it while fly fishing.
- Jason Kintzler
Robert, I enjoyed your blog post again, just like your others. I know nothing about the PR business, but it's good to hear it from your perspective. Keep up with the good work!
- imabonehead
Todd Jordan, I absolutely do not want hot baby birds!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
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Robert, your post is a gift, excellent and thoughtful. I hope more people read it and learn. Thanks.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
There's passion. About what I've no idea forgive me. I started watching your podcast because you made developers focus on why their gadget was useful and that came across again in the post. I don't come from a tech world perspective like so many new and coming users and when I find someone who can bridge the info. gap it's a gem. Most times TechMeme is in the "so what" chasm to folks like me. You didn't do that often in the podcast and have used some of the things I found there. I cannot say that about many
- Boo
One thing you didn't explicitly say (or if you did, I missed it) - know who you're pitching to and tailor your message accordingly. Some people DON'T want PR pros on their front lawns. :) Your interests differ from Louis Gray's interests, or from Corvida's interests. In fact, some people probably shouldn't pitch to you at all, but should pitch to Corvida because their product more closely aligns with her interests.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
BTW for the record, I didn't beg Dave Winer for a link. I either asked him what I had to do to get a link (which is what I think I did) or I jokingly begged him for a link and he took it the wrong way. Big difference even if he didn't see it that way.
- Alex Scoble
And as for PR people figuring out how to exploit blogging, et al, if you hadn't showed them, someone else would have. At least you got something to show for it.
- Alex Scoble
Ontario: actually if Corvida or Louis like something there's an extremely high chance that I'll like it too. I read both of them like a hawk.
- Robert Scoble
Interestingly, I covered most of this ground in my post yesterday (the only one in the meme Robert didn't cite). The PR person is an evolving position, one that's moving past someone who can click send on a press release and towards someone who needs to be part entrepreneur and part researcher/resource for the journalists they work with.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Mark, sorry for missing that. Mark's post is here: http://mashable.com/2008...
- Robert Scoble
best post in awhile! actually, the last few have been really good!
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
PitchEngine is certainly worth a look-see.... it seems to have a good foundation for what could be a better way to organize pitches. Brogan is already a fan and I could see it getting some serious legs.
- Jason Goldberg
excellent one (again) Robert. It will be interesting to see if new startups and PR firms will actually read it and start acting upon it. I think theTechMeme game is a game that everyone (including the echoing bloggers themselves) will find increasingly boring and less effective ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
I appreciate long posts. It lets me really get into the material.
- DGentry
Lay it all out. I love it.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
I like this post. Robert, you set the idea of WHAT a tech blogger should be trying to do front and centre. While not all of us may have PR firms flooding us with pitches, we can find intersting stories ourselves in other ways, because those stories are out there waiting to be found.
- Roberto Bonini
Some long posts really lose me, but when Robert rants I'm glued to it from top to bottom. Great post.
- Sarah Perez
Good stuff, but #8 was uncool. It sounded like you said "Spam Friendfeed so that your item comes to my attention." You didn't mean #8 that way, did you? Because that just transfers the game that you're already tired of (competition to show up on TechMeme) over to a new playing field (Friendfeed)
- Matt Cutts
I think they want sponsorships!
- Adam
another great post. i can feel the passion oozing out of you, Robert. thanks for doing what you do best. how “XYZ product solved this need and transformed my life”? exactly. this is the best question to ask. say, have you looked at Dean Kamen's Slingshot, lately? http://bit.ly/21ccZ5
- ~C4Chaos
Why do you think I keep telling you to come to Arizona, dude. We have stories NO ONE sees:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Am I hard to deal with for PR? Rick Smolan sent out 1,000 free books to journalists and got three reviews.
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no, not really. But I'm extra careful not to send you stupid stuff. (hopefully).
- adam christensen
My first job in book publishing was as a publicity assistant for a Cambridge publishing company. I literally used to stuff thousands of padded envelopes with books, galleys, and press releases. Another part of my job was collating the clips/reviews that came in. The ratio/percentage of books sent out and books reviewed was always paltry. What a waste of money and time. I never felt so utterly useless in my life.
- James
Yeah I'd say you are hard to deal with. I can't even get you to subscribe to my Friendfeed
- Alex Scoble
I am getting so many more comments on Friendfeed than my blog I want them back on my blog. @danielha is cooking this in Disqus, great news!
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just add the wordpress friendfeed plugin...
- Luca Filigheddu
you're one of my favorite people to follow, if only because you're so active in so many different communities.
- Pat Hawks
thanks Pat. Luca, my blog is actually on TypePad and I use Disqus comments on it.
- Loic Le Meur
Yes, a big tradeoff here: better conversation and interaction but less traffic and convo ownership.
- Soso Sazesh
I hear you! Read this blogpost about it http://peckpack.com/2008...
- Dave Peck
right same need for me on blogger. when is Disqus coming out with FF comments?
- Simone
For something that didn't look much in the beginning FF sure is becoming quite disruptive.
- Jon Dillon
Hey, this IS good news :)
- jjprojects
Disqus automatically integrating FF comments would be great.
- Kevin Bondelli
I don’t believe it is ethical to claim comments back from people who write them on FriendFeed. This means imposing power on your readers. If people want to comment on your blog, they can do it but that is not their preference. And you are not asking people if they want their comments to be seen on your blog.
- Kerem Ozkan
I don't care where it takes place. I', just happy to have a good conversation.
- shelisrael1
Though, if it weren't for friendfeed, many folks like me probably wouldn't see it to start with.
- adam christensen
but to comment on FF is so much more easier and faster...it's Twhirl fault !!
- Jean-François Amadei
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Yeah, the same for me. I've installed the WP plugin, but it keeps telling me there aren't comments on FriendFeed.
- Gianluca Neri
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Guess it might be too late to capitalize on my Disqus-friendfeed comment combiner, huh?
- Kevin L
+1 shel
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
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Great blog on unlocking the individuals within corporations. Thanks to Hugh Macleod via twitter for the pointer.
- adam christensen
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