What? No lawyers in suits? Mark's setting a pretty low bar on the dress code for this sort of thing...:)
- Tomas Remotigue
Our lawyers were wearing shorts actually -- no air conditioning at their office on Sundays I guess.
- Paul Buchheit
Zuckerberg's the only one from FB who could be bothered to show up?
- Andy Bakun
American big business such a formal affair
- Robert Higgins
Contrary to popular misconception, lawyers don't actually enjoy wearing suits. Haul us into work on a Sunday, and we'll definitely be dressing comfortably. :)
- Brian Chang
Andy, the person on the left is Vaughan Smith from Facebook. Sanjeev (the fourth FriendFeed founder) is not pictured because he was boarding an airplane.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, that's so awesome. FB's an awesome company to do business with.
- Jesse Stay
Hey Paul congratulations - FriendFeed has been leading the way since its inception. Are the photos you've posted copy-protected or could I use them in a story on the deal?
- Mitchell
...congrats.can't wait to see what happens with both FF and FB as a result of this.
- .LAG liked that
Please try to keep Friendfeed like it was if they let you. Either way, congrats on the financials!
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Congrats and best wishes for the future.
- Jeff Stannard
For $50m you could at least have hired a photographer who doesn't shake so much. :)
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
FF was the cutting edge whereas FB is quickly becoming the mainstream. Unfortunately, the mainstream does not necessarily equal innovation and pushing the envelope. We all suffer when innovation is chilled. But on the other hand, congrats to the FF crew. They made their money!
- blackChinahand
I think the Tiger suit would have been more appropriate! But hey....shorts in a backyard is pretty cool too.
- Drea Lester
Whatever the outcome, Friendfeed is terrific. Congratulations.
- Ashish
LOL, click through if you want to see pics of newly rich geeks in casual wear.. ->
- Alex Schleber
congratulations! keep the innovation coming...
- ozlubling
VERY happy for you guys. Possibly even owe you one or two. Are we getting FriendPhone next?? Think Mark should seriously think about 'Friendbook' :)
- Charlie Anzman
Congratulations to you and your team.
- Maria Niles
just showed the pictures to my students and they were like, "they look like normal people!" Congrats on the deal, onward and upward!
- xxx xxxxx
Congratulations, Paul -- to you and everybody at FF.
- Eric Johnson
Congrats Paul, Bret and the rest of the team, this is awesome news! The big question on everyone's lips is: Who gets to have http://facebook.com/paul? :)
- Fenn
Congrats, and thanks for taking us all on such a terrific ride! Big ups. :)
- Pete D
You've done a great job! You deserve this and more... Congrats!
- Ricardo J. Valle
Congratulations to everyone at FF. Whose house was the deal made?
- seman
I am sad .. !!! I do not know .. why .. for me its not good news
- Nayan
Looks like Mathew™ has found a UI bug by flooding contiguous characters.
- Jay Cuthrell
I don't get the negativity - did no one realize FriendFeed was a business? The object of a business is to sell eventually (either privately or publicly). We should be celebrating their success. This is a huge win for them, as well as Facebook. I personally think it's a huge win for the "loyal users" as well. So now we stab them in the back when they do something huge?
- Jesse Stay
Not to mention we know *nothing* about what this will mean for both services. These guys haven't let us down yet, have they?
- Jesse Stay
Congratulations Paul, you should have got more, but I guess $50m is nothing to sneeze at. Have a great wedding anniversary too, I'm sure you both deserve it. Much happiness - :)
- Chris Loft
Those are the kind of business meetings I could get used to - no suits... but selling to Facebook? Hmmm... Good for someone of course but I suppose we'll see where this ride takes us.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Congratulations, FriendFeeders! I'm anxious to see what changes this will bring. FriendFeed is my favorite site to visit, so hopefully y'all will find a way to maintain the FF spirit somehow.
- Keith Pelczarski
No matter the type of big change, there are those who will not like it, often simply because it's change. I for one am very pleased that two of the services I use most are joining forces, and am eager to see the new developments that come of this acquisition. Congrats to EVERYONE on the FriendFeed team. You all deserve it! You've done a great job with a small company. Now lets see what you can do with a large one :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@Jesse Stay re: "the objective of business is to sell eventually" : Ummm, the objective of many businesses is to become profitable by providing a valuable experience to their users. Businesses that feel they can't do that are the ones that sell.
- Shane Gibbons
Congratulations to everyone involved. Well done.
- Darius Dunlap
This is a very sad day in friend feed history. It is horrible because I like friend feed for how it's different from face book. I use facebook but I find it really annoying and I wouldn't use it if my friends and family weren't using it. So if Friend Feed becomes another facebook then i donno if I will keep coming to friend feed.
- Colide81 (James)
from iPhone
Congrats to the FF staff, but you'll have to pardon my lack of exuberance. I have mental pictures of being forced to use the FB UI and it makes me sad =(
- FFing Enigma
Very happy for the Friendfeed team. These pictures say it all.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Where are the photos of everyone celebrating? No beer or champagne?
- Shane
Great match-up guys ! The Fabulous Friender Boys ! - Let's see some integrated mashups and extensible apps and FF UI. Given Google and Twitter a run for their money... Looks like they are going to have to "hook-up" now !
- Mike Schmidt
Congratulations Paul and the team! Hopefully we'll still get the same simple UI for FriendFeed. I'm sure however that no matter what you do, things will turn up nicely.
- Ovidiu Predescu
NOOOOO! I _LOVE_ friendFeed and this will change it forever. Yeah - this will improve Facebook. Great deal guys - I can not wait to see how this works out
- Ric Johnson
@Scobleizer: Come on you're a genius and can not realize future of FF? Turkey was one of important countries which is using FF! They asked no one about this! We hate fcking morons and stupid people on facebook, and I'm sure that this post will be real, just read it: http://ff.im/6pRmM
- Alp B.
But Ahmed you are still being an ass about it, trying to rain on their good times. Go find a hole under the bridge where you belong. You can be sad and not have to come out all bitchy about stuff. Clear thoughtful comments instead of going all into "fuck you" mode.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
OK, that's great. I hope you can be successful at Facebook Dev Team and enjoy spending that money.
- Alp B.
böyle önemli bir iş için fiyat açıklanmadı ama 50 milyon $ deniyor. Bu kadar lakayt bir ortam olur mu yau. Uzaktan baksan gençler eğleniyor dersin
- Fatih Hayrioğlu
Şİmdi yorumları okumadım ama çok kişisel bişi söyleyeceğim. Bu gençlerin milyon dolarları çeviriyor olması durumuna şaşıyorum. Bizim memlekette bu seviyeye gelecek mi veya? Kaç sen uzaktalar bizden bu gençler?
- mustafa can
Bizim şirket sahipleri konunun belli saatler arasında, belli kıyafetlerle ofiste oturmak değil, yapılan işin niteliği olduğunu analdıkları zaman gelir tabii. Ama bence bu gavurların dediği gibi "When the hell freezes over".
- özlem yetis ercan
bu postu türkçe commentlerle doldrmak süper fikir.. sarcasm diil ciddiyim
- MobilAdam
Bakmayın böyle güldüklerine arkada buyuk yatırımcılar olmasa batar gider bunlar..Adamların yatırımcıları işi biliyor...
- Zekeriya Pehlivan
Great result Paul. In such a short time, millions of users, 1 new interface and a marriage with internets' celebrity. This is a period which you should write down to make it as an on-line business case. You people are really wise businessmen. Nice job, congrats! :)
- Olcayto Cengiz
Not happy happy congrats bullshit from me-I used FF.
- frankiecarl
Frankie, a lot of us use FriendFeed and are concerned about where things are going from here. As I said in my comment above: I'm happy for the staff but displeased with who they chose to sell to. I'm perfectly capable of feeling both emotions at the same time.
- FFing Enigma
Great photographs showing the very reason why 99% of all people start their own business - money! Well done and good luck for the future.
- David Jagger
this is so great! congrats paul! im really happy for u guys!
- Jason Pollock
Business is Business and we can only move forward with social-media applications as we herald a new interactive platform. Albeit thanks to the Mothers of all Mothers, Google. Frank Burns
- frank burns
The worst day for us, but ultimately not the end, many of us thought.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
How would you like to be able to point your iPhone towards an object – the Eiffel Tower, for example – and instantly see the admission price, working hours, its height and other information? We’ve been hearing about such concepts for quite some time now – and we’ve been able to visualize it better since the movie Minority Report – but Apple’s latest iPhone related patents might make it a reality sooner than one would think. A patent called ID App does just that; it recognizes an object based on visuals (through the iPhone’s camera), a RFID reader or through GPS, and then fetches the data from related databases. I like to imagine all this happening in real-time, with a layer of visual information superimposed on the actual camera image, but in the beginning it’ll probably just take you to a related Wikipedia page. Still, it’s a start. Another patent focuses on facial recognition, which can also be used for a variety of purposes. It could bring you info about a person (scary, I know)...
- Amiroo ™
There has been development of face recognition databases for many years already but during recent years technology has improved much and some of it started to appear in end-user applications for normal people. I have been left wondering if things face recognition in web apps like Google Picasa will be one base for improved databases for searching information about people when other apps get more improvements and amount of data sources increase.
- Daniel Schildt
Facebook also has support for tagging people but they still haven't finished face recognition support for their service (while I have seen some mentions that there might be development related to it going on).
- Daniel Schildt
After they finish basic things in client apps they will be looking for quality data providers. There is already giants like Google that have used years to make their image database larger but some smaller search providers have much more advanced image search engines. Anyway, it will be interesting to see which direction development of these kind of apps go.
- Daniel Schildt
Another usage for image recognition data is to re-index already cached image data (in Google's etc. image search) and find similar patters (like buildings, faces, etc.) that can be associated together in search. It might not be very accurate at first but data gets smarter as more people use it and when it's combined to user-provided tagging. End result might be quite scary, but that's the way world is going to…
- Daniel Schildt
With this amount of intelligence I don't know what would happen to our privacy
- Amiroo ™
What privacy? Is there still some of it left? While most of data is still hidden under, new generation of mashup tools will make it easier to have wide overall view of wide amount of data sources (both public and private). When you compile both public (via web search, public government/business databases, etc.) together with semi-private (web surfing logs) to private (credit card data etc.) you have quite large coverage of what person does. But that's not enough: add GPS location data to mix and it's scary…
- Daniel Schildt
Based of what I have read, some countries have required phone manufacturers to include chips to make phone specify location more closely without having to rely to GPS. Including of those might have been key because need to have more close look of where people are moving and what are their daily movements.
- Daniel Schildt
"Today we released a very big update to OUR app, which was created after hearing requests from you, the readers of this site. We really want to know what you guys think and hope everyone takes a few minutes to check it out - and hopefully it will help all of you save a few bucks."
- Michael Fidler
from Bookmarklet
I like the idea, but not the name. Seems kind of bias right off the bat. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the innovation that Google brings to the table, but to name the freakin' show after Google?? Can you tell that I am a big fan of Dvorak :)
- rodney.franklin
Think it was a big mistake to put the name "google" in the title, but will probably be a great show anyways.
- Steven Legault
this is great, so much to talk about, and so much to learn. I think most people have no idea the range of services that are emerging from both Google and Amazon related to cloud services that will be invaluable for the small or start-up business as well as consumers....
- Howie Schechtman
Can't wait! A new and exciting podcast for a new and exciting era of computing!
- Josh Rosen
Oh no!!! Not more Leo Podcasts!!! :-) Sure I'll be there!
- Richard Bitting
Can't wait, Leo! I'll subscribe immediately. This is an excellent topic and I'm really glad to see the best podcast network on the Internet jumping right in to cover it.
- Eric Geller
I'm really interested to see how this show goes. This is a big topic heading into our future.
- Mike Nayyar
I'm not fond of the "Google" in the name either, it's like calling a car show "This Week in Gerneral Motors". But I'll try to listen in to the taping anyways, should be funny & knowledgable with the three of you.
- Martin
This sounds like a good show, and nice graphics! But how do you have time leo?! Sometimes during somewhat slow news weeks there is some overlap in news like macbreak and twit which can sometimes be annoying but still great shows as I'm sure this one will be as well. WIll jeff and gina always be there or more of a twit interchangeable style?
- Denis Dervisevic
Looking forward to it, I love your other shows and Gina Trapani is great.
- Brandon Eaker
All things Google. Not all things Twitter? LOL Should be interesting. I was listening when you spoke of this show as a, maybe. I'll be there.
- D Lets
Ready to listen to the big three Windows Weekly, MacBreak Weekly and This Week in Google...TWiT is in a class by itself.
- Christopher Knopick
Windows Weekly is the best because Paul does something 90% of the TWiT network hosts don't do: RESEARCH!
- Mark
Should call it "this week in the clouds"
- Stan
from iPhone
Gina is great, as is Jeff. I really look forward to seeing how this show develops.
- Lori Todd
Google is taking over the world. Chrome OS = Android 2.0 for large laptop screens, Google Voice on Android and White Spaces will kill the $1 Trillion Telecom and ISP industry, you should talk about those ARM processor based netbooks that are coming out with Chrome browser in the next few months, they will take over the whole laptop market and start costing $150 with no contracts.
- Charbax
Great show Leo. Great way to kick off Sunday morning. will try with hangover next week
- guydownunder
from iPhone
TWiG was great! It really makes me want to dive into the cloud. :)
- Curt Tweedle
Great show! I will be a regular weekly viewer & I want to be a part of the Wave you set up.
- Don Struble
There is one This Week in Google podcast in iTunes, but it's not this one ;)
- Reijo
Someone else already took the name? Naughty Leo for not checking lol
- Mark
from iPhone
Mark, they did one episode and it was 2 years ago. I don't think they'll have any issues with the president of the internet using the same title...
- MλTT
It would be ironic if it was the twitvid folks who made the podcast hehe. Leos show was much better anyways
- Mark
from iPhone
I have been looking forward to this show since you first announced it. Thanks!
- Bruce Vittetoe
Gina T. mentioned y'day it wasn't up on iTunes yet, but they were working on it. Sounds like another TWiT winner!
- Rob Greco
from email
Great what a good idea since Google seems to run the show/
- Rob Cairns
Looking for it on iTunes here too, nothing yet.
- Andrew Leahey
Take a while to appear on iTunes. Meanwhile you can add it manually to iTunes with the following URL: http://leo.am/podcasts/twig Thanks for listening!
- Leo Laporte
What was that thing that Jeff Jarvis brought up at about 46:00 and it sounded like; Prezee or Prez-e? I have looked on Google and I found nothing.
- AquaGeneral
"The official Settlers of Catan website announced that a version of the game is currently building a road to iPhone. The new version will be developed by Exozet, which previously made Catan: The First Island. "
- Rob H.
from Bookmarklet
that's it- the understanding of publics.
- Kevin Marks
Plus they have video games for entertainment and have lots of time. I don't have time, so Twitter is a form of entertainment that I can get in bite sized chunks.
- Robert Scoble
That's it in one sentence: "Most teens just want to talk with their friends, not write to the world, he says" now maybe the world can start spinning again.
- Hoop
It's really interesting how I've noticed that most of my peers (20-somethings) are too hooked on Facebook to use Twitter or FriendFeed. Again, they don't see the point; Facebook has built-in Twitter that shares with the people they already know and care about.
- Jason Preston
too easy to get in trouble for what you say - on most networks you have to accept the invite of those who want to connect - not so on twitter
- Julie Gallaher
That's the same response I get from nieces and nephews.
- Joseph Ferris
Same thing I hear from a ton of people, regardless of age. For most people, they first need a "point" to use it or else they either don't sign up or don't return.
- Jeff Peters
danah talked about how some teens are using private twitter accounts, as Facebook is now too public, as their parents and teachers are there http://bit.ly/Awmw9 Multiple publics http://bit.ly/publics
- Kevin Marks
My 14-year-old daughter doesn't want to share her life with the world on Twitter...and I'm good with that!
- Kirsti Scott
They care, like us about reputation, but within their 'groups' - not publicly....
- Mrinal Desai
I'll have to explain it to her in detail before she gets it, prefers Facebook since ALL of her friends are there
- Miguel Rodriguez
Kids today don't understand nor care about the social dynamics that they will be involved in. Without a solid background now they can never hope to make truly justified choices later on. It scares me because I have to deal with them directly.
- Adam
I'm not much older than your son, but I have a twitter. Noticeably many of my friends detest twitter and compare it to facebook status messages, therefore they are unable to understand what makes Twitter great. Facebook has managed to grab the minds of us teenagers. I must admit I am much more inclined to update my facebook statuses as my friends will comment on it.
- Rahul Krishnakumar
the reason Twitter does well with teens is because they don’t care about networking – the act of creating/extending a network – as much as they do in their existing network itself. http://www.kanjhan.com/2009...
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
Don't worry Zachary - you don't exist in this thread
- Bwana ☠
It seems that every ones use of these tools is a bit different. I use twitter/friendfeed to keep in touch with fellow surfers and fellow web developers I know both here and across the world. Twitter/friendfeed have be come my best tools for this.
- Luke Kilpatrick
My son, while I type into FriendFeed, is playing Halo. The original one.
- Robert Scoble
Yet when I talk about the importance of tying Twitter to gaming, I get ignored
- Bwana ☠
Zach - no clue man, you're the exception the point in this thread :)
- Bwana ☠
Also teenagers are less likely to stick with Twitter long enough to make it useful to them, Facebook has a sort of instant gratification with adding your friends and commenting them etc.
- Chris Lawrence
I am @ricklafave on twitter, but I see the gap being that teens are all about text direct conversations. I see a huge gap in communication between the generations.
- Rick LaFave
I'm with Zachary, Adam... that was a bit of a blanket statement.
- Bettina Tizzy
Of course there are exceptions, I'm 19 and I'm on Friendfeed and Twitter, but we're talking about the majority of teenagers, Kirk and Zachary.
- Chris Lawrence
Have to agree here... my kid (13) and step brother (14) are total facebook kids... they occasionally hop on MySpace as well. Both try to get into Twitter, but really do not see the point.
- Darin aka iGoByDoc
By the time today's teens are into things they'll look upon Twitter like we now look at IRC. I'm wondering if I even still have an IRC client on my machine....
- Andrew Leyden
because it takes too long and is too involved...
- Morgan
Adults are very lazy...140 characters is tough to power through, but doable. The only people lazier than adults? Teenagers. Why bother with Twitter when their lives revolve around Facebook and it meets all their needs?
- Todd Pringle
That's really cool, I know about three of my friends on Twitter and they never use it haha. And if they do they use it as they would Facebook status.
- Chris Lawrence
Texting has always been really big in Australia, Zachary. It's a habit that's hard to get out of.
- Chris Lawrence
Zach: speaking in generalities of course. Clearly you are an exception. All up on Friendfeed and whatnot.
- Todd Pringle
I will be happy when everyone has the internet in their pocket and I can just email people instead of spending 25c everytime I want to use 140 characters :(
- Chris Lawrence
goes back to "announce" vs. "discuss", too. Fb has nice "my friends and family" feel that Twitter and FF don't yet have.
- MikeAmundsen
Depends on geographic area. Here it was the Myspace revolution, then slowly became Facebook. The early adopters of Facebook jumped on the Twitter ship and now the middle stage of Facebook adopters are jumping to Twitter. Does Facebook rule supreme among my group? Yes, with myspace a close second, and twitter slowly catching up. PS, i'm 16.
- Sean Quinn
I also don't think most teenagers grasp the difference between Twitter and Facebook. My friends who are content with Facebook don't see any need for Twitter and are actually puzzled by it's intended use. Over and over again I here, "Well Facebook can do that, can't it?"
- Angus Burton
Yeah phone plans in Australia are really ridiculous. There are hardly any unlimited SMS plans and the ones that are you are usually paying over $80 a month. But I digress!
- Chris Lawrence
My 16-year-old daughter said the same thing a few months back. But she finally relented and is on Twitter now. A few weeks ago she said "I've never been more informed in my life" since joining.
- Patrick Giblin
Seeing the longtail of Twitter takes a somewhat more mature mindset. That's why some mature teens can 'get' Twitter and why some childish adults don't (and content with Facebook).
- CannonGod
I think the topic teens liking or not liking twitter topic is entertaining at best. Does anyone have any decent statistics on this? Not to mention the term "teen" is pretty loose 13 and 18 are a world apart. I would think a teen using or not using would be more based on their personal interest. My 20 and 30 year old friends that aren't in the tech industry could care less about it.
- Nicholas Fidanza
Admittedly younger generations want to talk with less ppl but more frequently, and adults want to create more connections for friendship or financial gain. Kids don't need to worry about being loved, they have mum & dad at the end of the day :-P Sad single geeks however...
- CannonGod
@Angus that was a comment concern among my friends. Where twitter began to rule was among mobile updating. Although teens can use and do use Facebook Mobile, a two-way conversation can work well among a group of friends via Twitter on mobile phones much rather than Facebook status updates/conversations on Facebook, in my experience.
- Sean Quinn
I'm 16 and me and my close group of friends use twitter-its possible to have "chat room" like conversations about things (where are we gonna go after school, etc.) if we're all hooked up on it-it works great, but admittedly some kids use twitter more than others (like me)
- Oliver Reich
I just see Twitter as Social SMS. Teens like texting, so really it's just an extension of that. I can therefore see it being used more as a tool rather than an actual network per-say.
- CannonGod
While it’s possible to make Twitter “private,” the culture of Twitter is all about participation in a large public square. From the digerati seeking widespread attention to the politically minded hoping to appear on CNN, many are leveraging Twitter to be part of a broad dialogue. Teens are much more motivated to talk only with their friends and they learned a harsh lesson with social...
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- Johni Fisher
my oldest is 20 and uses Twitter and friendfeed a lot but he's a techie- my youngest is 17, uses mostly facebook and sms with friends - doesn't grok twitter yet he's very social...
- mike "glemak" dunn
from iPhone
got kids 24, 22, & 18. 24 is the only Tweeter. all use Fb. none use FF.
- MikeAmundsen
The article discusses that Teens like building out profiles, and taking to people they know. Twitter's not really for that - it's used more for information sharing IMO.
- Steffan Antonas
It's a crime to suggest that Twitter as a whole is just a single feature of FB and has been that way since the beginning. I never understood when Twittr was demo'd to me how a single feature of a bigger app (in my case, IM status/mood messages) needed to be an app on its own. However, what the early adopter mass wants, the early adopter mass gets (until the mainstream mass shows up and it's zomg culture/class war... I LOVE watching this.)
- Eric Rice
Sean: That's a good point. Strangely, using Twitter as a conversation base didn't occur to me. I actually thought more about using a FriendFeed room for that.
- Angus Burton
I agree with Patrick and I'm well past my teens! FF adds talking with my friends, so it works.
- Rachel Lea Fox
It is simple: kids don't use Twitter because they dont have an iPhone! Most teenagers don't have a decent internet enabled device that allows them to use Twitter nicely. Most parents can't afford (or want) to pay $150+ phone bills for their kids plus buy them an iPhone. I have many young friends and they all love the "Big Brother" spirit of Twitter. I totally dont believe the "I'm a...
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- Arturo Toledo
No dis... I have a 19 y/o daughter...Maybe it because he sees you using it and thinks its an "old people" thing... ?
- Ron Thompson
Geoff: same thing, but then he might be biased cause I hang here all day and it's simply not cool to hang out with your parents when you're 15.
- Robert Scoble
It's a lot easier to have friends in school. On the outside you have to be a bit more proactive.
- Todd Hoff
I only use Twitter to broadcast what I am doing on Posterous, and FriendFeed.
- Matt Ruiz
I'm an older (some say very old) user and friends my age don't do Twitter, FB etc. Their opinion: why bother when I have email? Why would I want to share with the Internet at large? The web is full of idiots.
- Robert Hafer
from iPhone
Geoff: I read FriendFeed I just don't post very much. I enjoy reading Twitter and FF they can cetainly be informative and interesting. None of my friends are on Twitter so I was speaking from my experience with them, not all teens.
- Patrick Scoble
Todd: That is also absolutely true with students.
- Patrick Scoble
It is true but a lot of adults don't see the point of it either at the moment and I think it'll change.I'm 19 and I think it's more useful than Facebook etc.
- Craig Malone
kids dont use words or language, they communicat through hyperlinks & txt. as they get older, they'll appreciate the value of words
- echostreamer
Teens spend 6 or 8 hours a day within a few hundred feet of most of the people they know. Why would they need Twitter?
- Rob Sterling
the same reason they spend the next 8 hours glued to facebook and the internet instead of going outside to chill with those friends (no offense :)
- echostreamer
Yeah, but information on Facebook is shared the same way as in school - it's hierarchical and clique-based. Kids are more like base primates than adults. Twitter is too open, when they want to control the dissemination of information among those people they know in school.
- Rob Sterling
There are a lot of 13-15 year-olds on Twitter, just look around :) The best way to find them is to find a celebrity who might garner a teen following ... That said, Twitter is (for now) nowhere near as popular with teens as MySpace and Facebook, for sure.
- dcap
Also, most kids can't afford smartphones, and using Twitter exclusively by text message is mostly a one-way affair. It's pretty lame. I bet your 15 y.o. son loves to text and spends hours on Facebook.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
I think teens may be more privacy savvy than the media paints them. They know that a nasty Tweet about a school official can get them expelled; but a private txt is safe.
- Robert Hafer
How many teens are marketing gurus and life coaches? Kids aren't selling anything and see no need to sell themselves. THAT'S why they don't care about Twitter.
- Kimber Scott
Robert: it is worse than that. One message can get them shunned.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Just like my older friends, they have no desire to connect with the Twitter-verse at large. But for different reasons.
- Robert Hafer
I've been looking for the point for a long time :O) - To me it has become a place where I can "vocalize" things I've always just said to myself before. I just find it funny anyone actually "listens"
- Bill Rawlinson
I think its good that teens don't like twitter. We can get on here without them!
- Su Butcher
As a teenager I didn't see the point of reading a newspaper either, but now I work in one!
- | Balu |
Interns in my office say they know college friends starting to use Twitter. Of course, none of the interns actually do. Twitter seems to be good for celebrities and professional networking.
- Hutch Carpenter
So that means he will like Google Wave? = the next Teen Twitter
- Hans Kainz
We can't say that Google Wave is the next Twitter, it's more instant messaging than anything (and I'd say FriendFeed relates more to it than Twitter does).
- Hugh Isaacs II
I do deeply hope that Google Wave takes off. I really hate signing into my msn account just to keep in touch with friends who can't get on the GTalk bandwagon or just don't see the point.
- Chris Chua
I think if you could start a conversation like this one on twitter just like on ff or fb with commenting tweets or just parsing them when you reply, it would be a lot more interesting
- Kaysha
Interesting that the 15 year old kid who got the job at Morgan Stanley did so because his mum knew a chap who she met when dog walking - so not what he knew but who his mum knew, and because of that he had an audience for his opinion.
- Simon Rogers
Wrote a post about this a long time ago. Interaction will scale down as the possibilities to interact scale up. The next gen doesn't care about talking to the whole world. There is little value in it
- Alexander van Elsas
from iPhone
Just blogged on this subject. I don't believe this is a generational issue. It's about privacy and signal:noise ratio. When those degrade, communities migrate to new social networking services, regardless of group members' average age. http://lehawes.wordpress.com/2009...
- Larry Hawes
What? There's another view? Please post.
- Ken Morley
I'm pretty sure it's in the collection "Never Eat Anything Bigger Than Your Head", published back in the early/mid 70s. I know I've got it around here somewhere...
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
True, Iran could cut off Internet access for the whole country, but to shut down Twitter, they'd have to shut off SMS too. http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidia...
I believe they did shut down cell phone service. It was mentioned several times in articles. Here's one from the nytimes, http://bit.ly/4D4ec
- Taylor Hutchison
Solar? Though the one I have is down a lot... :(
- Cris McRae
Leo, I invested in this green mutual fund a few months back. Hasn't performed well since then, but now may be the time to get back in as it hopefully ascends once again. http://finance.yahoo.com/q...
- Mark Krynsky
I recently purchased First Solar FSLR and is doing well.
- Guy Aiello
Leo - You might want to throw this at @energycircle on Twitter. Peter knows the landscape.
- Charlie Anzman
Leo... How about a 20 acre pasture? She can put a large group of stock in that!
- Scott Bechler
In that space I think it would be much better to use the shotgun approach and purchase a Green Energy ETF. Spread that risk out a little.
- DJ Stevie Steve
Leo, it's definitely the time to buy solar.
- Michael Forian
What's the time frame? One possibility could be LEAPS on a strong solar stock, these are very long term options that expire in jan. of each years, so you could, say, buy a Jan 2010 / 2011 LEAP as a stock substitute for a much lower price than the stock.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Metabolix MBLX. A green product, a bright future and a humorous company name!
- Rich
Green Earth Technologies symbol getg (pink sheet stock)
- Mike Lukco
It's too bad more people (in my circle of friends) don't use friendfeed. Then again, they don't use Twitter either. Everyone is on Facebook tho :-/
- Doug Jones
I DO agree with you there Leo Laporte.. me either.. and the new Seesmic Desktop client didn't help either.. friendfeed ftw
- @LarsenTweet
I haven't visited Twitter since I figured out how to post via IRC.
- Pete Brown
My Twitter activity has dropped as well. What's ironic is that I'm hearing about a lot of Twitter issues since the new FF beta... very strange
- Bwana ☠
I'm with you all, the FF realtime feed has almost completely replaced twitter.com for me. Wild
- Jeff Carter
I'd bet the Twitter issues are being caused by all the FriendFeeder's dumping their content back into Twitter through the API. Just a guess though.
- The Griff
mark... yeah add filters ;o) use them. :o) if not following bwana follow him... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
it all updates live time now anyway. :o) but yeah use filters ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think in a lot of ways Twitter is *too* minimalist. I appreciate at least one level of comment threading that almost every other site supports. Also, sometimes I like to be wordy and don't want to post everything in 160 character chunks.
- Doug Jones
@Rob: I get all interesting posts delivered to Tweetdeck anyway (because ppl crosspost) and always used FF for discussions and not "regular updates".. I'm pretty happy with Facebook, being for close friends, FriendFeed being for discussions and Twitter for everything else (like recently spending time with my friend, the whale) :)
- Daniel van Moll
But Leo, you are a Social Media Butterfly. ;)
- Robert Hafer
@Bwana: That's true! Since FF beta release on monday the "whale-rate" increased significant. Twitter recently disabled the "delete" function for tweets -- maybe to ease server load (see elections 2008, where they did this, too).
- Daniel van Moll
Am learning how to use FF. Pretty good I think :)
- mahjongmi
@Doug: Same here.. But I'm pretty fine with my "real life friends" being on Facebook and everyone else being on the twitters/friendfeed.. especially since the new Tweetdeck made monitoring Twitter and Facebook so easy.
- Daniel van Moll
I wish I could "automatically" have all of my twitter friends' posts show up in ff. I've imported all of my twitter friends who are on ff, into ff, but for those twitter friends who are NOT on ff, is what I'm missing, and forcing me to still watch twitter a bit. Any good solutions to that?
- Dan Nimtz
This is interesting? Will this be the new twitter? I would like some customization too.
- Disney By The Numbers
what i am waiting for Dan.. that way I can stop using twitter full stop :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hmm maybe I should just invest a little more time into "learning friendfeed" (especially lists). In general it has everything Twitter got plus a better visualization of discussions.. do you all use the website or are there tools like Tweetdeck out yet?
- Daniel van Moll
use the website dan ;o) how can we all not improve it via feedback if we dont use it ;o) these people ACT on feedback ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Figured out how to see non FF Twitter friends on my feed...may not work for protected updates tho.
- The Griff
Griff.. care to share? i got a room with all my twitter replies going to it.. but really want a stream with ALL my twitter in it, so i just reply from here.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Posted it to my feed. Basically just "Create a Feed", make it private if you want. Then add the twitter service pointing to your (unprotected) friends. Can do one feed per friend to make it clearer or one big feed if you want. Still checking whether it'll work for protected friends...thinking it might since you are already signed into Twitter from FF.
- The Griff
The funny thing is that I read this while listening to the Gillmor Gang from last weekend which was all about Friendfeed.
- Michael K Pate
Leo, are you automatically creating imaginary friends for people that are on Twitter but not on FriendFeed? Anyone know of something automated for that?
- Jason Carter
Same here. Now if only FriendFeed had a native iPhone App. But Nambu is pretty good.
- Adam Nieto
thats what I already do griff.. i dont get the whole twitter stream.. ;o(
- Rob Sellen :o)
I did once... to follow someone who was only on twitter. But this place is home now.
- Aaron
Trying out friendfeed for the first time... seems pretty cool
- Danny Dunn
I think I might just make this my home too!
- Kevin J Hatton
Really glad to have you over here Leo. It really is a superior medium.
- Thomas Hawk
Liking the iPhone UI though a native app will be nice. Tweetie sets the bar for Twitter clients let's hope for something similar on the iPhone. But I would like a desktop app too.
- Ken Knight
I'll visit Twitter just to see if people have replied to me in Twitter.
- John E. Bredehoft
Honnestly, I don't understand. You've just "broadcasted" this message, Leo. Where's your contribution to this discussion? Live, real-time or not... where's the difference (to you)?
- directeur
Griff: Not clear on what you're doing and/or getting out of the feed you made. Rob's question seems to still stand? What the goal is: Have all those that you follow on twitter to be feeding in (as FF friends or as invisible friends) to a single feed which would then represent everything that you would see via the twitter web page. Not necessarily real elegant, but less frustrating that fail whales ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I've looked at Twitter more since Beta came out than the previous 30 days.
- Jason (not an Argonaut)
Twitter may be a good place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
- Louis Gray
I was forced there as the corporate firewall blocked out friendfeed :S
- Sanne Buurma
I can't completely cut the cord from the twitters. Way too many friends there that will NEVER use friendfeed.
- Sullivan
I initially had one private feed setup for all of my non-FF Twitter friends. I've switched to having a private feed set per non-FF Twitter friend. Each time a friend posts on Twitter it comes into my FF stream. I can then reply and by checking the box send an @ reply back to Twitter. Hope that answers the question @guruvan. The problem with having the single feed is that people become unidentifiable. I'm sure an enhancement could be made to FF to fix that. Think the 1:1 is better though.
- The Griff
that is really awesome!! FF is kicking ass! woo hoo!
- Susan Beebe
The new FF Ui might very well be the perfect excuse to stop visiting twitter.
- Pedro Fonseca
I have, but I started using FriendFeed more after the UI change
- Cristian
I generally like the new UI but, I have to say, I'm getting burned out on the long comment threads here on FriendFeed. I just don't have time for it and I'm getting better information density on Twitter. Less is more for me.
- Mike Doeff
It would be nice if FF implemented a Twitter client using the API and automatically made non-FF users imaginary.
- Peter Warnock
How about opening up a method in the API to create imaginary friends and let the community build some tools to automate porting friends from other services?
- Brian Stoner
Then why is it all up and down FF, I see posts from you from Twitter, Leo? Am I missing something?
- Steve Austin
So when I see the twitter icon next to one of his posts, that doesn't mean that it was first posted on twitter? I'm not trying to be accusatory or anything, just trying to learn...
- Steve Austin
I second this motion. Tired of recreating friend groups.
- Bryan Griffith
It seems as though most people on Twitter INSIST on posting the very same tweets here, too. So what's the point of reading Twitter again?
- Stan Scott
That is the frustration most have. FF consolidates all feeds for all social sites in one location, so redundancy is inevitable.Now if FF incorporated a service like Ping.fm into the site, and build an app to support all mobile phones and appliances you would never have to go anywhere else! ;)
- Aaron Friedman
My reaction is that FriendFeed does not really add value over Twitter and other silos.
- Scott Royall
That's nothing yet! I haven't ate, drank or slept since the beta came out. I'm gonna sue these FF bastards, mark my words. ;)
- Meryn Stol
Scott: really? You clearly have NOT looked very deeply.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter never got me, or i never really "got" twitter. I'm much happier here on FF, not really because its real time, but because i find the content and conversations much more interesting.
- Lasse Johnsen
Oh and i actually FIND the content and conversations here.
- Lasse Johnsen
I have said it before and I'll say it again: How much can you really say in 140 characters anyway?
- Meryn Stol
Are you serious? The best part is the simplicity of threading on tweets, and watching quality content in your network rise to the top.
- Kevin Elliott
I'm unimpresed. Think about it. You have to have an account on every service you want to aggregate. Each of those accounts has to be maintained. If you don't have those sources, you have a very dull FF account.
- Scott Royall
Scott, you can participate on FF without using any external services. Just comment, and post messages (and links) yourself. It's very much like Twitter then. Only way better UI. A UI which is impossible to duplicate on the Twitter platform atm.
- Meryn Stol
You want imaginary accounts that generates imaginary content? Thats totally Web 5.0!
- Lasse Johnsen
Yeah? :-) Good for you :-). I was enjoying your episode on the xserve today.
- Richard A.
What is the goal of Social Networking? To provide a way to interact with people who interest us, right? So why do we keep re-inventing it? Each time we do, we have to rebuild our commnities.
- Scott Royall
Scott: because we keep figuring out new things to do with it. Yelp is a social network for restaurant reviews. Upcoming.org is a social network for events. Friendfeed is needed because Twitter doesn't do enough. I'm sure there'll be others that will come along that will compete with friendfeed, too.
- Robert Scoble
My take: Something like FF ends up accidentally doing the opposite of what it intends by creating yet another refuge for discerning users to flee to.
- Scott Royall
Scott: ff is doing something other social networks have proven incapable of doing so far. First, it's live. Second, it has filtering that Twitter will never be able to match (Twitter doesn't have the metadata that friendfeed has). Third, friendfeed has a much better conversation surface than Twitter does (or facebook). Fourth, friendfeed's rooms (er, feeds) are a place where you can do private business much better than on any other network. Fifth, friendfeed's direct messaging features actually work.
- Robert Scoble
Finally, I just saw my fifth fail whale of the day over on Twitter. Friendfeed hasn't failed for me EVER (it was down for an hour quite a few months ago but is 100 times more reliable than Twitter and faster than Facebook).
- Robert Scoble
Paul: yup, there's a lot of things that Twitter does that friendfeed doesn't. It's why I stay on both too.
- Robert Scoble
Paul, you can receive FF updates via IM, would that be a viable option?
- FFing Enigma
Yes Robert, you duplicate effort, which was my point.
- Scott Royall
Scott: there's a tax to pay and I paid it. Yes! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, social networking is a major part of your life. I think most people just fit it in.
- Scott Royall
Scott: there are more and more people who make this stuff a major part of their lives. You've gotta see the engagement stats for Facebook. Off the charts. My wife is addicted.
- Robert Scoble
It's all Rob's fault that twitter is being ignored by me. Is it coincidence with the new ff ui? They say that things happen in perfect timing, when they're supposed to.
- Myrna
It seems to me there are two sides to social media: personal and professional. Just when I figured Twitter would win the professional side Friendfeed beta comes out. I have to wonder if the beta will cause the services' roles to switch. Then again why would anyone but close friends care about my Netflix queue, etc? Perhaps that's what filtering will help but FF needs some templates.
- The Griff
please pardon me, but new UI is terrible :P I pray God twitter will never change.
- Ac0n (former Franc)
I will be keeping Blue Ray. It's not overrated for me. Watch Now is nice, but a poor excuse for a home theater experience.
- Eric - 100% Choice Cuts
I really couldn't go back to SD where BluRay is available.
- Quasar
Maybe this is the way they will get the picture that not all consumers are ready for there price jump.
- Johann Diaz
from Nambu
I have so many options for streaming and time-shifting movies in HD, I'm not even sure I want a Blu-Ray player.
- Rob H.
Did the same yesterday, don't feel it is worth an extra $24 a year.....
- Joe
Blu-Ray is incredible if you have a good, large display. The problem for me is that the library is still small. So for now I rent the Blu-Rays I want from Blockbuster.
- Kevin
I did the same and will do what Brian suggests. Upgrade for a month, watch a bunch of 2nd tier Blu-Ray movies. The real blockbusters I purchase for my collection anyway.
- Pete Smith
$6 seems totally reasonable for unlimited renting access to such higher quality films. I don't have Netflix because we don't watch that many to begin with (renting one or two films a month in iTunes HD with Apple TV is enough). But if we did have Netflix, I'd be all over this.
- David Chartier
My rational is, the price has dropped so many times since I signed up, this maybe puts me back at my original subscription rate.
- Eric - 100% Choice Cuts
"The crowd assembled under the Gateway Arch on a sunny Saturday afternoon to hear Obama speak about taxes and slam the Republicans on economic issues."
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
I like how you can share that the way you did here on FriendFeed. You got the link, a photo and a comment. It's like robust microblogging. Better than twitter.
- Rolf Schewe
It's amazing what's going on. In Greensboro in Obama's headquarters you can sense the excitement. This state went bigtime Bush eight years ago. This time it's looking like Obama may take it. Signs are EVERYWHERE. It's really amazing how political people are here. Far more than in California.
- Robert Scoble
I was there. Bigger crowd than they get for July 4 fireworks, biggest event of the year in STL. Truly amazing to see that many FANS in 1 place. Only a few, but loud, haters.
- Mark Edwards
from fftogo
@Robert remember the Clinton camp discounting the primary midwest wins by Obama because those states weren't going to vote D in November? Change is in the air.
- Phillip Jeffrey
Couldn't have found a better intro than Claire McCaskill, she is an embarrassment to our state
- Robert Hafer
That was a question in spite of bad typing
- Robert Hafer
Did they take down that sculpture thing? I haven't been in STL for awhile.
- Robert Hafer
Edmundo, I don't get at all why you think Obama is proposing more government control of your life and income—just not true. In fact, I feel McCain & Palin would control many more people's lives and incomes, i.e. the war being continued against many of our wills, which would bankrupt us; invasion into women's reproductive rights, gay rights; not helping small business people & education, not providing health insurance to over 47 million citizens, thus limiting more people's lives to poverty & bankruptcy.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Wow! Only 5.8M people live in Missouri, so this 100k is nearly 2% of Missouri's population.
- Mike Reynolds
Those people at the rally are all swing voters.
- Rolf Schewe
Considered the world's most-accurate commercial imaging satellite, the GeoEye-1 had been undergoing calibration and inspection since it was launched on Sept. 6 from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. A second satellite, GeoEye-2, slated to launch in 2011 or 2012, will have a resolution of 25 cm, company representatives promised. However, Google's satellite imagery will not likely get more detailed because of the 50-cm regulation.
- Leo Laporte
Aaaah yes Hollywood stars opinion is how I make my decisions......
- Jim Stewart
@melmcbride oh you're right, probably is. I like the idea that he's filming this from home :)
- anna sauce
@Trish: ... but maybe Todd Palin is f*cking Ben Affleck.
- Rodfather
who gives a Sh*t about about any celebs opinion?
- clarke thomas
Bullshit. Disney doesn't make bad movies, let alone *really* bad movies.
- John Rubier
from twhirl
@clarke We, the public, do. Tabloid journalism sells, so the media gives it to us. And I'm not sure it is tabloid, besides. We give our opinion all the time around here; what is the difference betwixt them besides the media platforms?
- Michael W. May
Why are people reading this as if Matt Damon is trying to run for office? He is stating his opinion. It's freaking hilarious whether you agree or not. Just f*cking laugh....geez
- Rahsheen the Dream
@Jim @clarke Don't discount someone's thoughts because they happen to be a celebrity. Damon is no slouch, he attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin School in Cambridge, graduating in 1988. He attended Harvard University the same year but left to pursue acting. I'm not saying to sit on the edge of your seat to hear what celebrities say, but we all have a chance to have a voice in the debate whether we are celebrities or not.
- tagami
Matt Damon is much smarter than most politicians -- it's not even a contest.
- Sean McBride
@mel @michael: the last actor I believe we put in the office was Reagan? and well the press was different then. If these actors/actresses did what they said 1/4 of Hollywood wouldn't be living in the US anymore. The smart ones, don't publicly express their opinion. Anyone who routinely is in the press is a celebrity, no matter if it's a tabloid or not. Scoble is a tech celebrity; would you vote for whomever Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Robert Scoble or Larry Ellison publicly recommended?
- clarke thomas
@clarke I am saying I wouldn't discount their opinion out of hand.
- Michael W. May
@michael I'd agree on that; but I believe too many say 'well X said they were stupid' so I'm not voting for them.
- clarke thomas
@mel: I don't care what he's saying; I care that people consider his opinion more then others' because he's a celeb (& people think b/c of that he's got pull) [oh and I don't give 2 sh*ts about a VP anyhow; they're there to run the House and be the International spokesperson]
- clarke thomas
mel, just because I find what he said hilarious, does not mean I can't also believe what he is saying.
- Rahsheen the Dream
Clarke -- I hold Matt Damon's opinions in much higher regard than Sarah Palin's because he is clearly more intelligent than Palin and makes much more sense. Anyone who is a creationist has by definition removed himself or herself from the world of intelligent discourse. (Besides, see Good Will Hunting -- clearly the man is a genius of the highest order. :))
- Sean McBride
@Jody well I have had 1/2 a bottle of Malbec; but anyhow my comments are not based on what Damon said. Sadly from what I read, hear on the streets, or in the office - people do take to heart what celebs say - as if they(celebs) have any better idea then any other US citizen. Just because they have $$$ or had dinner with a candidate doesn't mean they know much.
- clarke thomas
One should also add that Matt Damon is an honest, good and decent human being -- for real. It comes through in his work. He's probably too good to be in politics.
- Sean McBride
the man makes some good points...how you like them apples
- Ryan
Not to be a killjoy - I'm an Obama supporter and all, but, being a critical citizen who pledges allegiance to neither party, i have to point out Matt Damon is just repeating common media hype about Sarah Palin. Do I want to see Sarah Palin in office? God, no. But do I think the criticism being offered about her (as well as every other candidate, past, present and future, McCain and Obama included) is superficial at best and meant to create a knee-jerk reaction? Definitely.
- Adam Bohannon
@clarke why can't a celebrity have an opinion? He's an artist, he should have an opinion...and speak it. I value it as much as I do yours. We're talking about it because it's interesting.
- Ryan
Population of Alaska = 683,478. Population of Santa Clara county = 1,837,075. Number of people employed by Walmart = 2,100,000. Things I learned on Wikipedia today.
Random I was just checking out clips on YouTube of moose attacking cars hahaha!!
- Joe Dawson
Moose burgers are really good. So is caribou stew and reindeer sausage. *mouth waters*
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It may look funny, but moose can be really mean. And they are really big. People get hurt in AK every year by moose stomping. Don't get between a mama moose and her calf.
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Explanation: "In January 2007, people from Perth, Australia gathered on a local beach to watch a sky light up with delights near and far. Nearby, fireworks exploded as part of Australia Day celebrations. On the far right, lightning from a thunderstorm flashed in the distance. Near the image center, though, seen through clouds, was the most unusual sight of all: Comet McNaught. The...
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- Andrew Baron
Wow, 153 people 'liked this" so far and almost 30 comments.
- Andrew Baron
Absolutely incredible shot! Then again some of the best shots on the web come from NASA, National Geographic, Discovery and, of course, Hawk :)
- Charlie Anzman
Not to be too cynical but that shot seems to good to be true -- I wonder if there is more processing going on than the text seems to admit.
- Brian Sullivan
I'm going to side with Brian here. What is right: Comet McNaught was that bright in WA (I use to live there), but I checked my attempted pics, they predate this by over a week. I'm sure the comet was only that bright for less than a week. Second, the main Australia Day fireworks occur in Perth City...which isn't near a beach . Maybe it's Leighton Beach with Fremantle to the left...but it doesn't seem right. I did check the weather records though, there was a storm that night, and it's in the right direction
- Duncan Riley
I do hope it is real though...and I forgot how wonderful the environment there is
- Duncan Riley
Duncan, last year both Fremantle and I believe Hillarys held their own fireworks for Australia Day. I myself was trying to guess the location this morning. Being a regular on Leighton beach though it doesn't look familiar so I was thinking it may have been taken to the north of Hillarys. It also made me very nostalgic for Perth :)
- Penny
At 302 likes, the #1 most liked post of all time on FriendFeed. Antti Kemppainen Photography - Here's Antti's original picture http://jkemppainen.com/antti... Antti's e-mail is kemppaisantti@gmail.com, and you can scroll through Antti's other photos.
- Mitchell Tsai