Great blog appreciate all of your "likes" that I would not have noticed before. Thanks for all the time you spend educating us.
- Gary Prechtel
auto-follow always seemed like a bad idea. people can always msg you but your stream will get totally cluttered if you dont do a little bit of housekeeping.
- William Kapes
Oh you are getting quite a response here!!!! I'm commenting so you'll follow me but the thing is you're going to LIKE following me because you'll learn all about Sedona through tons of videos and you'll love it so much you'll want to pack your camera and head out here! =)
- SedonaTV
Thanks for the mentions, Robert (and you know I'm not commenting just for the follow - I just like to follow you, which is what counts!)
- Jesse Stay
Guess I might as well delete that overpriced twitter app I bought last week.
- Shea
from iPhone
Actually Robert, now I've seen you've tidied up your twitter, I'll probably follow you there again too. :-)
- Tim
Meh, who cares really, not like you read everyone you followed. Plus unfollowed you anyways, not like you have to say that's interestined except friendfeed spam.
- Steve
@scobleizer just created the most important tech follow list on Twitter.
- Christian Anderson
aww shucks, and here I was thinking it was just me who you unfollowed.
- Jess Sloss
I underwent the same situation, Robert - I unfollowed almost everybody on Twitter who duplicated their accounts here on FrF. I got a tempest of fury for this action. web3 is too personal still ))
- massagin
I feel fortunate that you're still subbed to me on FF. I haven't even noticed whether you unfollowed me on Twitter. But you following me, still hasn't gotten me the chicks. :P Always fun seeing your posts, long as you don't block me, it doesn't matter if you follow me or not. :)
- Arlan Koizumi
I did the same thing some weeks ago after avoiding twitter because it got too noisy. It was instantly better. But in the mean time I started to use FF more and I like it better here so I hardly go near twitter now.
- Murray Barton
You already follow me here on ff, which i use more than twitter.
- dthree
Don't think you are following me on Twitter anymore..please do and best regards
- Karma Martell
I'm still trying to figure out the following... so I'm watching how you do it scoble.
- Matthew Schrock
Good plan. I'm looking forward to your results. I'm trying to figure out all these social media elements. I would appreciate your Twitter follow.
- David Stanley
Odd internal response, I don't follow everyone who follows me cuz of the very noise you talk about. And, there's no good reason for you to follow me since I'm unlikely to deliver news of interest to you. And yet, here I am, posting on FriendFeed so you have the OPTION of following me, a stranger who is not the same kind of SMART as you. Who'd have thought...
- Della Mauler
This seems like asking for trouble to me, Scoble. But, it's your time and bandwith to do with what you will. Since only a handful of people (by that I think I mean just one) follow me on Twitter, it's pretty easy for me to weed out the bots. The people I follow are my internet nerds (mostly the Rev 3 crew) so I know their interests are in line with mine. Hit me up for some edifying conversations about Lost and video games, Robert.
- Jeremiah Green
Interesting statement about original content value of FF independent of twitter. Twitter is where you keep your noise level down...
- James Watters
Here you go Robert! [also via twitter: @Scobleizer Therefore: only approx. 1.7 million "active" human @Twitter users contribute 50%+ of all activity, right? #engagement] Regards, @AAinslie
- Alexander Ainslie
You're still following me - does that mean I'm a smart feller? ;)
- Brett Kelly
so glad I mail Robert a business card every month :)
- Christian Anderson
Della: the thing is here I can follow you and put you into a list and watch you less frequently than some of my other people. So everyone wins. But only here on FriendFeed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Some of us have been doing this from our start. Kind of cool, eh? But our numbers don't grow quickly so we were tagged as "slow." Nice to see you catch up with us! Also, this may shock you, there sre folks who follow and communicate with only 3 folks on twitter and they are HAPPY! Imagine....
- lynda spangler
I've long thought the entire Twitter "etiquette" of always following who follows you to be a bit of a folly. I'm following 114 at the moment, and the stream still moves too fast for me to keep up with.
- Darren Landrum
Good test, count me in... I don't follow tons of people, I follow a few prolific Scoble-types and the rest are more focused in areas I'm interested in.
- David Ziembicki
I'm not following tons of people, just a select few. More to follow on FB when facebook has completely integrated Friendfeed-funcionality. ;-)
- Wolfgang G. Wettach
I only follow people I know or have something interesting to say, did you really have 160000 people that said something worthwhile???
- Gerard van Schip
Gerard: everyone says something worthwhile once in a while. The trick is to see it when it happens. Here on FriendFeed, by the way, you have a better shot because good stuff usually gets liked and commented on, so it pulls up higher into my view.
- Robert Scoble
Nice post Robert, and no surprise it's an improvement. ;o) I have seen it for me too.
- Rob Sellen :o)
1 thing I find Robert still worth following @Scobleizer when I am not on friendfeed & on my Hootsuite or PeopleBrowsr. therefore not much affected, not much 2 bother me, ego not gone at all. luv your post Robert it is a frank posting
- polou/indigo_bow
Follow me Robert, I promise I'm not annoying. :) @cluteman
- Greg Clute
from iPhone
Robert, thank you! I follow you and enjoy your "likes" and your energetic takes. I also enjoy your Building43 interviews! I am a constant FriendFeed user now. Thank you!
- Tobin Truog
This made me realise I must be more active on FF and comment/post more :-).
- Mats Pettersson
I think I'll give FriendFeed a go! Never tried it, but looks easy and I need to understand the interwebs better. @CodeSamurai_Com
- CodeSamurai
butt-kissing is not a prerequisite for being followed, he will follow you anyways :D
- Mark
You can follow me, but since you follow a lot of people, you probably can't pay attention to the stream of tweets.
- Alex Knight
Alex..that's the WHOLE point he did this... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
IMHO 1,647 is still way too many people to follow.
- Alex Knight
I will NOT get baited into ... ah CRAP. I follow very few people on twitter, mainly only to find info from Android developers (my topic of choice). If you mention anything about the food you are currently eating, etc.. you will probably not be followed. If you post 80,000 times a day, you will not be followed, since Twitters interface sucks (not so for FF). Also, no offense to other social users, but if you resend your FF/FB/<insert other social site here> entries to twitter, I probably won't follow.
- Tim Hoeck
Oh..Oh... Mr. Kotter...Mr Kotter..follow me!
- Scott Booher
Glad to see you're writing more than 140 characters on that blog. Doesn't that feel liberating? Maybe we should be allowed character# based on your metric for powerful/smart/newsmaker
- Noah Bloom
You already follow me here on FF, for which I thank you. So, I'll just say thanks for the phone call the other day. :)
- Jeff Harbert
Ok, so follow me again and I will follow you back. Thanks!
- Audrey
Robert - I fail on most of your criteria so I'm not expecting you to follow me. The thing is I don't care if you follow me back - this is social media and everyone has their own choice. I choose to follow you because you entertain and inform me. The relationship is 100% one way and I am more than happy with that!
- Pon
Robert - Last night at GDGT Party the person at the Blackberry booth said: 1) She had 'heard of Twitter, never friend feed' uses neither 2) Is SCOBLE is coming tonight 3) Wow, your Blackberry is really "archaic" and find out when contract lets you upgrade. F-D UP? Booth babes need primers.
- Liza
Interesting theory... people who comment more apt to contribute?
- Mark Philpot
I know someone else who tried this strategy last year, with similar results. I've been debating it. Once I got over 3K followers on Twitter life just got weird. Started to spend X amount of time every day blocking porn spam.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Liza: yeah, sorry for not coming to the party. I went and saw Obama's CTO instead.
- Robert Scoble
Steve Lynch: my Dunbar number is higher than yours is. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Nice summary Robert on the whole Unfollow thing, but would it be too repetitive if I re-post on my FF?
- Keith Rowland
What is the best friend feed aggregation strategy of non-friend streams (eg RSS, twitter, etc)? Imaginary friend per service, then add to lists? Multiple services per imaginary friend or 1 to 1? Or add the services to a group? What are the considerations?
- John Brown
Keith: you can repost anywhere you like, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
still wondering how you are able to handle such a big load of subscribers here and e.g. so many followers with twitter o_0. I am already (sometimes) lost with the few i got till now. Lately with one sweep almost 40 to 50 contacts in twitter disappeard and i have no clue why ... boah, how are you handling the noise? Hell, with so many ppl in, you might have a terrific noise? Or you wear just good headphones ;)?
- Ronald
I very much agree that being choosy is the key to Twitter. I'm not nearly on the scale that you are, but in my experience, freely following people (whetther they follow me or not) and then mercilessly cutting back on them over and over again results in a kind of darwinianly better and better signal to noise ratio.
- Tim Maly
Liked the blog post and totally agree. I've been meaning to do something similar. What I do is occasionally prune and then add some "better" replacements, so my total is always 2000 follows.
- Bora Zivkovic
I don't see how anyone can manage so many users without groups. Then again, with groups you could just make an "ignore" group.
- Oscar M. Cantu
from iPhone
Great blog post. I totally agree on the noise level. I figure I have blocked a few hundred accounts on Twitter, and my noise level has dropped dramatically. Thanks for the follow!
- Tony "Frosty" Welch
Robert - I figured you were in DC from FF, but she had NO IDEA what a CTO is. Point is, she was eager to give you a Blackberry, but not me, and I wish I had a Scoble costume to pretend for 5 minutes.
- Liza
@Robert I think you are starting another mass follow again.
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Steve: that's not the problem. As long as spam doesn't enter the system I can deal. Keep in mind here I can choose how I follow. I can put you all in a folder that I never look at, if I wanted to.
- Robert Scoble
my feelings were hurt that you unsubscribed to me on twitter, but i agree with your methods
- Brian Appleby
Brian, yeah, but I follow you here. So there.
- Robert Scoble
really doesn't matter as long as i can follow you, that's the beauty of these services
- Brian Appleby
How did you come to follow so many to begin with? I get annoyed with ppl and unfollowing is easier than sifting through their garbage constantly.
- R1CC1
Autofollow was a horrible idea to begin with.
- David Chieng
I kind of tired to keep an eye on who follows me now,the ones I'm following is much more important.:-)
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Robert: we need more intelligent spam-follower-filtering on Twitter! We need to fix this.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
@David +1 I think auto follow is such a bad idea to begin with,and people like Robert now even need to pay to unfollow these people.
- Steve Chou
from IM
How much did SocialToo charge for running the unfollow script?
- Shane
I've always been very picky in who I follow on twitter. I follow 40 people, and I can't guarantee that I see every single tweet. I don't scroll back usually, unless it's my "Real Life" column in Tweetdeck that couldn't fit on my screen.
- Tom Ribbens
My birthday is also January 18th, therefore you must follow me Robert! ;)
- Chris Luckhardt
from BuddyFeed
Thanks Steve! $25 is pretty reasonable. Wonder if anyone else will be jumping on the bandwagon
- Shane
Sometimes the tortoise beats the hare after all... building organically based on getting to know people and interactions tends to avoid the ghastly spammers, seo peeps and bots
- Sally Church
I'm outside your sphere, but bootstrapping is bootstrapping right?
- Travis Bedard
Tuesday night for the first time in 2 months I UNfollowed everyone on Twitter who wasn't following me. Since you had UNfollowed me, yup I unfollowed you. My Twitter account is so /FUBARed! It only goes to page 506 to show who I'm following and after that it is BLANK! I don't even know if they show in my Home stream. So Robert, I value what you say. Know I can tweet profusely - but it's as @replies to others with the occasional micro-blog thrown in. Question, what DID I do to cause you to UNfollow me?
- Arleen Boyd
Oops - I also meant to ask, Robert: how are you managing to follow the couple thousand that you are now re-following on Twitter? You must be using groups, I guess...any other methods? I find ~500 people to be a near max in terms of how many folks I can fully read.
- Lance M. Brown
Following your inspiration, I unfollowed almost 100 people last night and blocked about 1000 spammers, cam girls, MLM marketers, and the like. Twitter is more like it was a year ago, its almost like I gave my Twitter account an enema and it worked. Thanks for the original idea.
- Mark Edwards
Robert, I started out only following those I know and those I am genuinely interested in. I've only followed back a few of the people who've followed me. I have a second account that I decided to experiment with. I followed about 700 people on there. It has had about double the followers of my main account consistently. I am about to try some new tricks there with an auto-follow script I'm writing but I think I will stay the course with my main account.
- Paul The Raven
Robert, I tried the "follow everyone" (almost) method for a short time - then I'd unfollow about once-a-week. Now I try to schedule a "follow new" once a week. TweetDeck's group feature makes following lots of folks bearable. So does FF, but you've been saying that for-ever!
- Kathy E Gill
I will follow you if you follow me (Genesis)
- Keith Barrett
I may not be smart, but I'm smart enough to follow you!
- John Pfaff
It occurred to me (and surely to someone before me), that different definitions of "following" might be a big factor here. If I'm following someone, it means I'm following along with their updates. But others might see themselves more as becoming part of a person's "following". Not that they are necessarily reading the person's stuff, but they are willing to be considered part of that person's inflated Twitter posse, as part of the influence-trading aspect of Twitter.
- Lance M. Brown
Robert, I think that the biggest thing that changed is not that you were "wrong" (to follow everyone) before but that the Twitter population has changed so much. A year ago, pretty much everyone on Twitter was real, and interesting - now there's so much automated gaming the system going on that the signal to noise ratio has gotten unbearable. So I think anyone who cares about more than...
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- Matthew Blaisdell
I can't imagine how it would happen technologically, but it would be great if there was a way to ditch followers who weren't actually reading your tweets.
- Lance M. Brown
Enjoyed recent posts and look forward to more from you! Keep it up.
- One Degree Connected
All right, I'll bite :) - although I'll say that I did the mass-unfollow-thing months ago - long before it was cool.
- Justin
from Nambu
Your most active followers are on FF. No loss.If you really wanted to make a bold statement you ought to have blocked all of your followers and started from scratch.
- Benjamin Taylor
Been a while since I put you and Shel On the record...Online
- Eric Schwartzman
Good article Robert. I honestly enjoyed the perspective. I found the same to be true, but on a much lower scale, of course ;-)
- ChangeForge | Ken Stewart
I don't get it - so now you are using Twitter kinda like a normal person, and its some kind of miracle that it works better?
- Nick Lothian
I'm impressed you can keep up with 1600 people. I have trouble enough with the little amount I have. I did find that making FriendFeed imaginary friends and putting them in groups for those I'd like to read occasionally (but not on a regular basis) has helped a lot
- Tamara
me! i offer nothing but the warm feeling of having accepted a ff reject.
- Marco
ok. so how will you filter the noise now
- Kfir Pravda
Ooo, I've won the lottery. You'll follow me now. Wheeee! (how do you have the time to go through all of the names by hand? VA assistance?)
- Peggy Dolane
Interesting trend on twitter - I always wondered what sense it made to follow tens of thousands of people, too much noise. I'm finding it hard enough to follow 2900 (looking to cull even that down as I mostly tweet about 30 people!)
- Tia Singh, Life Coach
I like your ability to influence so many people. I'm following you (mostly here - on FriendFeed) because it's one of the ways to learn how you do it (but, please, do not follow me if you do not see anything you could learn from me :-).
- Hanna Wiszniewska
I would come up w/ a better vetting process.
- Joe
got to get a pic up so i can fit the criteria, I only follow 45 people and some of them are on thin ice ( Im lookin at you Scoble)
- James Hunter
"Where in The Net is Robert San Diego?" (cit.) :-)
- Luca Perugini
from iPhone
I'm not kissing your arse,but i do learn a lot listening to you.
- Paul Downing
@scobleizer why would you randomly follow people who comment in this post when you just got done knocking FFollo and having to unfollow a gazillion people on Twitter?
- Bryan Zirkel
Bryan: because I'm following people one by one and putting them into lists on my screen. Autofollowing means you aren't doing ANY of that thinking. Also, autofollowing will get you spammers, if they ever show up (and they will).
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: Read your blogpost and that's indeed what I look at to follow people too. No autofollow and even close friends have to tell something interesting for me to (keep) following. Friends who are new to Twitter (no tweets yet) get the benefit of doubt.
- Patrick Mackaaij
If you follow me, great, but if you don't I'll understand. :) And I ought to do some pruning myself...
- Grant Bierman
I still don't understand how you want to follow someone who just writes a comment over here. Well, this is not the first time. I did not understand why and how you followed 100k people. I find it hard to properly follow 100 people.
- Sumanth Kolar
Sumanth: obviously there are degrees of "following." When you read the New York Times, do you read the entire paper word for word? I don't. Same when I'm following. I only get random slices of some of my lists. Others, which have 500 people on them, get 100% read.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still here . . . although tired after teaching all day. Louis Gray came to my PR class at SFSU and WOWED the 50 students [except for one who thinks we are making too much of social media] We won't be following him.
- Shari Weiss
I still like the "stranger stream" of Twitter vs "friend feed" of other applications. I don't feel the need to read all tweets from everybody - and tools let me check my fave tweeples. I think mass unfollowing destroys some of the social contract - Robert you are lucky because you are well liked and can do some risky things but companies for example (not Brands of One) would be in...
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- Laurel Papworth
As @charleneli predicted back in January, 2009 will be the year of de-friending on social networks. It's here.
- Mark Evans
Laurel: yeah, you have to navigate these waters carefully if you are representing a brand, that's for sure!
- Robert Scoble
i will not get followed back: not powerful, don't have a brand, not a news maker... but i kinda understand the reasons
- Dani Martínez
I still think it all goes into how you use twitter. If your using it as a communication tool it depends on if you are looking for broadcast or 2 way. Its interesting to watch as some of the bigger names turn back from the broadcast and go back to the 2 way.
- Luke Kilpatrick
@Robert so when you're taking in information from FF do you have a feed of several dozen/hundred "key" people and then categorize the rest, or are you mainly searching? Do you utilize groups at all or mainly just rely on what comes across your feeds? I guess I'm curious as to how you're using FF to collect information.
- Bryan Zirkel
I have found Twitter becomes noise rather than a conversation once the following/follower thing gets over a certain mark. I think this is the dirty little secret of Twitter - if it just turns into white noise, rather than a filter, then it becomes less than useful.
- Michael Liss
I'm interested in how we'll all feel over the next few years as social networks continue to change and more people and organizations get on them. Obviously, many of us are getting fed up with spammers and are unfollowing them on Twitter and Facebook. I am also having a hard time keeping up with new subscribers on FriendFeed because I know less about them from their profiles and have to...
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- Cathryn Hrudicka
BTW, I feel like I'm finding lots of interesting new people to follow from these discussions that Robert and others are holding on FF. Cool!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Am I too late to comment and get followed?
- Hichame Assi
LOL! I follow those I find interesting and which can give me useful information. And hope someone follows me for the same reasons.
- Flavio
Very interesting post - I've always thought that you guys who follow loads of people must get completely swamped by noise! Like you, I've found it useful to follow companies I use that have interesting products like Zoho and Evernote as a way of keeping up to date with their latest innovations. Excellent idea spelling out your "follow criteria" - it needs to become standard etiquette for social networks so that people don't get offended when they aren't followed back :) .
- David Meredith
aren't you doing the same thing here, that you did in Twitter? Choose carefully who you follow, filling your brain with pollution doesn't make you smarter
- Allison
Just finished reading the Mashable post on your unfollow exercise. It's attracting attention from all the other big names now.
- George Hall (Australia)
Very interesting indeed, I only to unfollow a few, cause I just never had auto follow on.. So now I just unfollow the ones I'm bored of..
- Jaap Willem
Seems like a good idea. Although Louis Gray also has a few valid points on his latest blog post why it might be a mistake http://bit.ly/19UKxk
- Silver Hage
I've never understood the auto-follow procedure on any social network. Even on Facebook, where it is obligatory, one can still lower the noise by simply hiding the updates of those who want to follow you, but perhaps also have little personal connection and therefore can be hidden.
- Noah Gray
It seems like the unfollowing was the easy part. Choosing who to follow again must have been a chore. I think it is crucial in twitter (and FriendFeed for that matter) to have a clear out every six months or so otherwise you get bogged down in an information feed you don't really care about.
- Chris Nixon
I can totally understand why you had to do this. I'm following 2700-ish folks on Twitter and I need 3 groups to manage it (using TweetDeck). I feel I am keeping up with most of my local community and the general tech community at large though I'm sure I'm still missing quite a bit of stuff from people who are not in the 3 groups. I also wonder how much more I can actually handle.
- Ken Seto
Um... well, I made something of myself, but then I didn't like what I made, so now I'm doing it all over again. Not sure how that fits with your criteria! Plus, I really don't have a brand or any influence to speak of. I do look great in boxers, however.
- Mark It's 2000-Oh-1-Oh J
OK, OK, changed my picture. Instead of a green clock (a clock is my personal brand) I put a picture of myself. A lot of people told me to do that....
- Bora Zivkovic
I am still looking for info on holographic technology being used for news delivery. Perhaps it's a technology that hasn't even been invented yet or is sitting on a shelf somewhere. What say you? http://specialdee.wordpress.com/2009...
- Denise
Hoping your new look account has had the desired effect. No need to follow me, I'm not the interesting type, I'll just be glad if your insights, links & content continues. Congrats & good luck
- JanLawrence
Here's what's interesting, Robert, I've noticed an uptick in followers even if you reply or RT or like someone's tweet, not just if you follow that person. Then again, perhaps that's the intent - if you like or RT someone's idea, that's a kind of stamp of approval.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
The Scoble Pendulum.. How long till we go back to FOLLOW!! FOLLOW!!! FOLLOW!!!! ? :)
- Adrian Scicluna
I did a purge on Facebook for the same reasons a few months ago. It's under 300 and it's people I actually care about. I've come "this close" to running a purge on Twitter but haven't yet. Maybe this will spark me to do it. I've kept FF tight from the beginning.
- Rob Williams
moving from FB to FF ... fewer, longer, more meaningful threads. welcoming your follow. cheers
- marc calamia
alright - follow me... - thx in advance Robert Scoble...
- Nilesh
All that commenting in the past counts for nothing?
- Kevin Gamble
Hey Robert... Great post... On FriendFeed, I increasingly put people without meaningful and valuable content on a separate feed that I rarely check... Its a more "sensible" way to unfollow, i think... I only unsubscribe if I get pissed at someone etc. I wish, FF gave users the option to only unsubscribe from comments and likes (but keep the main feed). This would be a good tool to control the noise...
- Onur Kabadayi
I agree with Robert (duh!). I very briefly made the effort of checking out the new follows and deciding whether to follow back. I think once I hit a thousand I shifted to a model of occasionally saying, "If you want me to follow you, talk to me." Hit two thousand and quit saying anything or checking followers. I don't care if they follow me as long as they either say useful things like real people or don't talk at all. I've never autofollowed back. This strategy works for me.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I have a large difference between people I follow (around 2000) and people who follow me (around 1800) - I choose people who are important sources of information. People choose me if they think I am an important source of information to them. I never thought it would have to be a one-to-one relationship as to who is useful to whom: some are informative, others are good listeners and learners. I learn from people I follow and I hope my followers learn from me.
- Bora Zivkovic
I also think that those of us who follow larger numbers of people don't use the stream in the same way. It is more dipping in and out of the stream, trusting that the important stuff will be repeated enough to float to the top, engaging with conversations of the moment. I wrote a blogpost on this earlier this year: http://etechlib.wordpress.com/2009...
- Patricia F. Anderson
Someone told me twitter can be separated into two types. (id say at least two)
- Kay Proskin
Scoble, I am beginning to think you are a cult leader :). Look at all these comments! I am using FF more and more these days... Useful for eGuiders.com that's for sure.
- Marc Ostrick
I like Robert. He was one of the first people I followed on Twitter and brought me to FF. But I don't understand why people are desperate to have him follow them. Status? Some kind of virtual autograph?
- Tech Introvert
What the heck. Follow me if you like. I'll be as entertaining & informative as I can.
- Aaron Schaub
from iPod
Been considering doing the same. Your post just might be the flame that lights a fire you-know-where to get it done.
- @katebuckjr
I only follow a few people and keep losing track so lord only knows how you managed to even begin to keep track of a conversation before friendfeed came along
- Iain
from BuddyFeed
Well done! Who need followers that aren't reading your tweets anyway.
- Sean Rasmussen
I'm considering doing same once I'm more confident in my use of FriendFeed. I RT'd this and it resonated with at least one of my followers.
- Tony Hollingsworth
'Hand-crafted personal network' is the meme of the moment, and whilst I can see the workmanship, where's the value going to be for you, Robert, in following this rag-tag (no offence people :) ) of folks from a gazillion different verticals. (OK, so they're mostly life scientists).
- Andrew Spong
I use to want to be Bob Dylan. Now I am not so sure.
- ZuDfunck
My take: you can't be an authentic, credible voice to your community if you let 'sex & dollars' spammers hang on to your coattails. Spam followers matter.... in a bad way. Allowing them to be associated with you diminishes your potential value to genuine followers. It's a pain. It takes time. It's worth doing. More on this, if interested: http://tr.im/vJwb
- Andrew Spong
Hope to see more "old fashioned blogging", like it better than tweets. Tweets are bound to disappear into oblivion the moment they're posted.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
"Spam followers matter.... in a bad way." - I certainly agree with this. I block pornbots just as quickly as they follow me. I'm less vigilant about the commercial follows, but usually they go away by themselves after a while.
- John Craft
You're already following me here (don't care about twitter tough), so i just hope you don't un-follow, even though you probably don't understand what i'm talking about most of the time, since it's in portuguese.
- Diego Sana
So what happened to the advantages to following so many people you always talked about?
- Bas
Thanks for connecting here, still learning all the advantages of FF
- carece
@Andrew Regarding spam followers and the idea that allowing them to follow you somehow dilutes your credibility, I just have to disagree. To me that places the burden on the wrong person. I don't have time to waste pruning those who follow me, unless they are overtly annoying.My stream is public, they can follow me anyway. What matters to me is that the spammers leave me alone. If they don't, I block them. If they keep quiet, I don't care.
- Patricia F. Anderson
What is important is not who follows me, but who *I* follow.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Follow me if you want, but I gotta warn ya, it's scintillating stuff!
- Pierce Presley
Funny my twitter feed is much noisier but I have been very selective on who I follow. I have tried to make the feed relevant and actionable. At times I post things that seem out of the norm on my twitter feed but that is mainly for the few people who follow me that don't get it but I am trying to keep up their interest level. I also control who follows me, yes this breaks the model but I think the follow everyone model was broken and reckless
- Richard Gallo
Am I interesting? Dunno. I'm often controversial, tho. ;) BTW, we met in person at a Pittsburgh Blogfest, but I really don't expect you to remember that.
- Eric Williams
Enjoyed the post. I just started Twitter a few days ago to get away from Facebook. I like friendfeed the best - can't wait until it becomes more mainstream.
- Robby Parker
Awesome move. Consider that my comment please :)
- Charlotte Barker
friendfeed is definitively more evolved that Twitter. Conversely, user bases of Twitter is still its real (and unique) point of strenght...
- Marco Castellani
Don't want you to follow me (unless you find my stream of interest) but it's quite interesting the number of people that comment to get you to follow!
- Ben Drury
Hey Robert! So, I would like to talk to you about a social media company I'm working with right now. They launched a few months ago and their trajectory and momentum is pretty amazing. Oh, and I started unfollowing the noise in my Twitter after I commented on your blog post.
- Gregg Le Blanc
Great ideas. I've been selective (though it fluctuates) about following people/accounts on Twitter since I joined about 2 years ago. I can't take too much noise.
- Joe Lance
from twhirl
I'm asking the same thing Bas asked... what about your video on the benefits of following so many people? I took a stab at that method of madness by starting to follow all kinds of people, and following anyone that followed me... but I always felt like I was missing good content from good people because of all the "spam". I started to use TweetDeck to create groups/columns for...
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- Timothy Federwitz
@Patricia - reminds me that I should probably review all my twitter followers and thin things down. :)
- JA Castillo
I did almost the same thing - unfollowed about 1000 from my 1500, no attention is way better
- Maarten den Braber
Couldn't agree more. It's about time we all grew up. BTW Don't follow me. :-)
- Gee Ranasinha
Robert what's the deal with Twitter?
- stockmanmarc
Your post makes good sense. I didn't auto-follow & still find folks to unfollow because their noise gets too loud.
- Debra Ellis
Very clever. I imagine the signal to noise is sooooo much better.
- Chris Brogan
I've been thinking about unfollowing a bunch twitter folks as well. I'll look at SocialToo again. My initial experience with SocialToo wasn't good. However, it was during their infancy.
- Ron Hudson
I don't blame you at all. Leo was all over that yesterday.
- Daniel B. Honigman
why would simply leaving a comment prompt you to follow me?
- David Wescott
You're not going to change your mind and mass unfollow us are you?
- walidmREALTOR
I suspect it identifies you as a real person interested in dialog, David.
- Eric Williams
Followers are currency and you have plenty to spend
- Lee Odden
Bob, did you do anything on Twitter recently ? Did you massively refollow people ? Seems like you screwed up Twitter : down for a while... ;-)
- Enikao
Your ego is amazing. You make it seem like it is a special deal to be followed by you. I'm glad there are many very bright, talented people here who follow others, regardless of class, education, social status and not based on some snobbish criteria.
- RuthNH
Wow, this is a lot of comments. And kudos for following Followable people who have something interesting to contribute to your day. I'm glad you did it, because that means you'll find AND share more interesting things. This, in turn, makes you more followable too. Thanks for seeing the light, so to speak.
- ax0n
Did this take down Twitter this morning Robert?
- frank barry
That must of taken a long time :-) I've always been a fan of twitter, but I must say they have struggled in the last few weeks. We are working with their API on a project and their seems to be an issue every other day that causes problems. Do they have what it takes?
- Chris Nadeau
I follow under 200 people and it's great. I can't imagine 1k+ . I add about three or four a month.
- Mike Janicke
I unfollow people when I find I ignore their tweets/updates. After reading your blog, I think we ALL need to be more judicious.
- Janet Barker-Evans
Is this why Twitter is down? LOL! Can't check to see if you unfollowed me. Hope not. You, Shel Israel, and Jeremiah Owyang were some of the very first people I followed way back before Twitter even had 100,000 people on the service. -- It's been a fun ride but, of course, the spammers always show up to make things difficult.
- Brenda Young
How do you really know if you should be following someone until you follow them for a while? Sometimes I don't start talking to someone until I see a common interest, then I tweet back and we start talking, but that could be months later. I don't follow everyone back, but I follow back those that interact. I will unfollow once I see that won't happen, or I don't like their tweets.
- Nadine Gilden
Twitter is victime of it own success, they have to re learn how to scal better, but more important they have to learn to share better.
- abdellah
looks like you'll need to follow at least 343 people LOL
- Shari Weiss
Friendfeed takes over for twitter finally?
- Thomas Resing
@Patricia I don't want potential followers to be put off by who is following me. I wouldn't want them to think I care more about have n+1 followers than I do about what they're going to see if they review who I've allowed to follow me. Not to cull spammers suggests I care more about my experience than theirs. To a great extent, the quality of their experience will determine the quality...
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- Andrew Spong
1600 ... isn't that a big number too? It could be you'll think again before you follow every one here :)
- Mario Gastaldi
Still waiting for my Building 43 t-shirt. Not that I'm bitter or anything. ;-)
- Donna Tuttle
Be sure to come by Dallas when you swing through Texas!
- Zaneology
from Nambu
Respect your opinion Robert but we'll have to agree to disagree. Yes I despise all the FakePornSpamBots who follow me. I block as many as I can, but can't keep up. Our views differ regarding what is important to SEE! I treasure home Home stream! I read it, refresh, read, refresh and in minutes I have the pulse of the world... at least MY world! EVERYONE has something of value to share at some point. If I UNfollow tens of thousands, I will miss so much worthy of consideration.
- Arleen Boyd
Just another reason why it's good to diversify, I can still read your posts here. :)
- Luis Sandoval
Funny. I was catching up on news on Friendfeed for some odd reason. Great post; plenty for new and long-time users alike to consider there.
- Alex Howard
I'm still waiting for the ultimate tool to manage my followings - I can only manage to keep up with about 1/3 of those following me. I'd love to see something that can tell me what friends of mine also follow those that I am or those that are following me. Maybe it's out there and I missed it?
- TheDiva Rockin
Anyone interested in assessing the quality of their followers should check http://tweetblocker.com. It's pretty chastening. I aim to improve on my C rating. http://www.buzzom.com is a fun, fast way of decoupling yourself from non-reciprocal followers. You can select individuals to purge, or flush 50 random non-reciprocal followers at a time.
- Andrew Spong
Robert, your timing could not be better. ;-)
- Dave Martin
Great post, with perfect timing! Dang it, Dave Martin just took it off my lips.
- Vadim Lavrusik
I hereby rename this comment thread neoTwitter <waves at followers>
- Andrew Spong
Awww, you gotta admit, saturation, the level of influence that you have, because of your high follower, count, is a tool of mass destruction. Seriously, did you think if you recommend an online service that people would not try it out? Was this an asassination attempt
- Peter Murphy
I'm glad i'm not the only one who misses /me actions from IRC, Kevin. ;)
- Eric Williams
With today's Twitter outage your timing is pretty stinking good, Robert. :)
- Chris Cree
Now to get the rest of the world to follow that same logic when it comes to follow/unfollow! I only started being more selective as Twitter (and everyone else) started getting aggressive with spammers or anyone that even remotely did a single spammy tweet. Now if only there were the same contact management tools available for the other social networks as with Twitter. No matter what though, I'll continue updating my status when I eat a peanut butter sandwich! (With Fluff of course!).
- Paul Monaco
Now I think that it is time to think about a way to make money using Twitter.
- abdellah
@Mark, +1. When in doubt, the default delegation of blame goes to Robert.
- Dave Martin
what is critical mass for twitter? Too few and nobody interacts, Too many and spam bots overwhelm, Is it 1K or 2K needed to get a real experience?
- WarLord
Hmm can you unsubscribe from "comment notification via e-mail" in FF on a *specific* topic? This one :-)
- Patrick Mackaaij
Of course I thonk it is a different experience if you hand follow reading each bio from the beginning then these mass purges are unnecessary
- WarLord
I am intrigued how RT addict will RT now?!! (ps: FF please don't post this to my twitter)
- abdellah
I have been keeping my twitter account private a majority of the time lately b/c I am going through a divorce, but I really kinda like it. Have been reducing followers as well as the number I follow.
- Jackson Miller
You should follow me here in FF and on Twitter too!
- Karthi
hopefully most of us have proven our worth beyond commenting on this single thread
- andy brudtkuhl
If you are already following me on ff does that mean I get a cookie or something? ;-)
- Tomy Thomson
I'll add my name to the list. I came back to FF after the Twitter DoS outage. Maybe Scoble broke Twitter by all his unfollowing. He was the "glue" holding Twitter together. :-)
- Tom Newman
Robert: Here's the bit you missed off the end of your title here: .... and put them in that group I don't read :-)
- Jim Connolly
add me for your social media and the practice of law news!
- Rex Gradeless
Great post. I'm sure that some people might say that this kind of mass unfollowing will hurt Twitter, but I think it's just the opposite. Users who are following people they have no interest in just to pad their own numbers are diminishing the meaning of "following."
- Mark Denton
To stave off being unfollowed we need to comment here ya say?
- Jason
you are already following me here... perhaps you'll consider re-following me on twitter too
- t i n y m
I don't know how you ever did it the other way. I am not in the tech world near as much as I used to be, which wasn't a whole lot. I just followed some random people I saw on SMugMug-related people on here when I started. You were one of them. I had no idea who you were (and still don't :-), but you talked about Twitter a lot too, which got me on there as well. Both services have really...
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- James Schipper
Quality over quantity in all things, including (perhaps especially) Twitter. Loved your friending methodology -- those are the same rules I've applied since being on Twitter. Posted them onto Posterous to share the love with credit to you: http://lorilaurentsmith.posterous.com/
- Lori Laurent Smith
it's not about unfollowing, it's about filtering...
- Barak Hachamov
I started out following everyone on Twitter.Then I got wise. When someone's stream becomes more noise than signal, that's when I consider unfollowing. I realize that threshhold is different for everyone, but I'll take "what I had for lunch" over a dozen bogus "marketing tips" any day.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
Well, I am trying to use FriendFeed more after watching Scoble's video on all those monitors he had up. I'm not a big consumer of information and don't own a TV but this online social stuff has been a perfect fit into my life because I can connect with people who are fountains of knowledge on a specific subject or are "human mashups". I like both!
- Adria Richards
I've been reading al of this unfollow bits, and this point of yours:
- Donna
Hey, I think that today you might make your point about FriendFeed being more interesting than Twitter. Hope you are well. Talked with @fransteps this morning and she is excited to work with you at Rackspace.
- Kami Huyse
I've been reading all of this un-follow posts lately, and this point of yours in WHY you unfollowed: "#2 Because I personally care about everyone I am following their noise level is a LOT lower. ." Is exactly what I do. And now I am starting to understand Friendfeed more. and using posterous to do aggregate posts. So is this overload making more people sit up and think first? I think so. At least the intelligent ones.
- Donna
This is a great move, Robert. It's also a lot more human...I was almost convinced that you were the only person who could actually drink from the fire hose without choking.
- Steffan Antonas
That sounds fair. After this morning, I've renewed my love for FriendFeed and Tweetworks. Until the next DDos attacks, of course. I will miss the fake porn stars, but I did when I moved from L.A.
- Scott Pierce
Steffan; I agree...there is no way anyone else could do what Robert S. does. It's good to see him become human.
- Robert Jones
This has been my problem for about the past six months. I routinely go in and unfollow, get the noise level down to where I want it, and then end up following back a bunch of new people, some of whom I'm incredibly grateful to get to know. When I had track, it was a whole lot easier to manage the stream, but I suspect even that tool would now be out of hand. I have a set of rules for...
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- Karoli
hee hee. i am commenting not so much to beg your follow but what a clever pitch:)
- Tresha Thorsen
Robert - I have not read all 416 comments so if this was asked and you answered forgive me. What was the all of a sudden revelation that caused you to reverse stance on Twitter Followers?
- Jeff Vreeland
It's difficult to maintain and filter a list on all the social networking sites. I cannot even imagine maintaining the kinds of lists you must deal with, Robert.
- Jeremy Brooks
Dude, you broke Twitter! When you unfollowed all of your 100,000 the other day you pulled the rug right out from under it, so it fell down and now it can't reach its beer. :-)
- Robert Morrison
Actually I felt rather sad being fav'ed by you on FriendFeed then dumped.. But again. I get more from you from FriendFeed, so oh well, stop talking about Following and Get on more with Tech! :P
- Du Senyao Peter
i like the idea of importing favorite tweets into friendfeed. i haven't used that favorite feature much because i haven't seen any real use in it. thanks!
- Jonathan Blundell
When twitter is down I always wish I could tweet: checkout friendfeed. Nevertheless, how will following folk that leave a message here really improve the quality of your input? While I don't want to judge many of the fine folk on this thread, are they all that interesting? In other words, isn't this the start of the same problem you had on Twitter...
- Jon Mountjoy
Robert, but why clutter your FriendFeed stream? This comment is not to get you to courtesy follow me on FriendFeed, think you've established you've changed your thinking. :)
- L.P. NEENZ FALEAFINE
OK, I have enough people to follow so I will close the comments on this thread. Thank you everyone, I will try to get to everyone today.
- Robert Scoble
After much harassment from friends, I'm finally attempting (again) to become a Mac convert. Does anyone have any suggested tools I *must* install on a new Mac?
Zee, would you rather just roll with what a single blog post says, or hear it from the people who use this stuff daily to do much of the same things you will need to do? :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
If you use Onenote, Evernote is one alternative.
- Rodfather
There's this one program that's like Photoshop but I forgot the name. It's 50-60 bucks
- Outsanity
from fftogo
what do you plan to do with it? we could tell you about all kinds of crap, but will it work for you?
- tiffany
Chris Pirillo actually has a blog post on free Mac shit
- Outsanity
from fftogo
I've seen it, Outsanity. It's got too much stuff. I'm looking for 2-3 recommendations per FFer ;)
- Tamar Weinberg
I cover Windows, Zee. Cmon, you know better. :P
- Tamar Weinberg
I'm not sure what I'm doing with it yet. Right now, it's a toy to see if I'll be a Mac convert. (I won it in a contest.) I'll probably take it with me to conferences for liveblogging.
- Tamar Weinberg
Installing stuff won't make you a convert. You've got to hang in there for a bit to get used to some of the changed usage... but the first thing I'd install - Firefox
- Brian Roy
I use Cyberduck for FTP & Coda for web stuff
- Robert DeBord
@Tamar, no no :) I mean what your colleagues have written
- Zee.
MS Bob, running on Parallels Desktop.
- Josh Haley
The best solution is to get Chris Pirillo's phone #. You already know you can call me any time. We'll play Mac geek phone help.
- Louis Gray
Zee, I've bookmarked several posts. I guess my question was more to the effect of "what software do you recommend that you use on a regular basis" versus software that we've blogged about that we've tried (but perhaps do not use consistently).
- Tamar Weinberg
Are you looking for mostly free opensource toys or paid tools to do a specific job? Apps "I" use daily - Twitterific, NetNewsWire and Linkinus.
- Adam Turetzky
Transmit, Adium, TextMate, Growl, Quicksilver, iTerm, MacPorts. But it depends on how you use a computer. I'd personally recommend not installing much of anything for a week or two and just learn about what is native to OS X. It's far more capable than a bare Windows install.
- ·[▪_▪]·
Fugu for FTP/SSH. And if all you are doing is quickie image editing, Seashore does the job. Open source. You also want NeoOffice. And I vote to leave Growl OFF... I'm still trying to uninstall it. I have much hate for Growl.
- Cyndy
@Cyndy all you have to do to remove a preference pane in OS X is control(right)-click on it's icon in System Preferences and a popup will appear under your cursor that says "remove xxxx pane" and that's it. Although I don't know why such hate for growl, it's one of the coolest notifiers. Especially with the iPhonesque but to each their own. :) http://macthemes2.net/forum...
- Adam Turetzky
Skitch for image handling, Filezilla for FTP (if you're coming from Windows, you'll feel more comfortable with it). adium if you like IM, Twhirl for Twitter, Firefox for browsing....that should set you up. I'd recommend trying iWork as well instead of Office, nice package.
- Duncan Riley
After a lifetime of Windows I recently switched to an 24 inch iMac. It's like when you were a kid and your mom bought the generic brand fruit loops with the retarded bird on the box because it was cheaper. Then one day she springs for the good stuff, and then there's no turning back. Adium is a great mac only IM client. Try that.
- Seamus Condron
quicksilver...by far my most used app.
- Tim Wright
Cyndy, maybe the "brand" is worth $120M and the service... $1M. :-)
- Louis Gray
$121 Million is a pittance for Best Buy to get even a toe-hold in Music on Demand. The legal bill alone to make your own service probably would cost 1/3 of that.
- Steve Spalding
Week ago i bought one. But only because i was in it : ) There was an interview about http://snurl.com/3luvs And didn't read
- Selim Yoruk
every sunday i read the local newspaper and enjoy it. also every morning that i'm in a hotel room i read my free copy of the wall street journal or USA Today
- Jonathan Jesse
We get three here at home: Wall St. Journal, New York Times, San Francisco Chronicle. It's a challenge to read them, I'm getting most updates via web.
- Hutch Carpenter
the only time I ever read one is when visiting family or in a doctor's office. I never buy one myself and just read it because it is there. My local paper has everything online so nosense in buying it when I can just view one of the few local stories I may want to read for free.
- Dean Clark
It's been years since I've sat down for any length of time to go through a paper from front to back. It used to be one of those things I really looked forward to doing too - Saturday morning, pot of coffee and a few hours with the paper. Now it seems less relevant to me.
- Kevin Cearns
2 weeks ago, Financial Times. I always read FT on paper. Love that touch-and-feel of FT :)
- Hayk H.
Does the NYTimes on my Kindle count? If yes, every morning!
- JMaultasch
Some 30 minutes ago. Huge amount of information presented in the net cannot replace the satisfaction of the smell of ink and the lovely breeze and sun of boshphorus in Istanbul :)
- Oguzhan Eren
I would like to congratulate Oguzhan on his first comment on FriendFeed. welcome!
- Kyle Lacy
We usually buy a sunday paper a couple or three times a year on the impetus that there's a big sale (like Black Friday). But the main reason we buy it is so that I have liner for my bird's cage for the next few months.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Whenever I'm in a hotel and they provide the local paper. I find local papers fascinating.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yesterday. The Sunday NYT is a treasure and a joy to read.
- Mark Interrante
Saturday...start of the college football season! Otherwise, very infrequently.
- JA Castillo
I read my local paper probably 3X/week and whenever I'm looking to have a good time on the road I'll buy a NYT or WSJ. I love the newspaper.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
This morning. I don't get the paper. I read it at the gym.
- geekazine
Last saturday. It nice to READ what the talking heads are saying once a week. Makes a change from blogs. Theres pros and cons to both sources of info.
- Roberto Bonini
I love reading a paper when I go out for breakfast. Nothing is quite as satisfying. Staring at your laptop seems anti-social whereas flipping through a paper allows for more interaction. But I still like books too.
- Todd Hoff
I read the NYT and Philadelphia Inquirer daily. Can't find articles online like I do when flipping pages. And the crossword -- no way.
- Frank Roche
Sunday's I get the paper for the coupons.
- R. Ferguson
This morning - I love reading our local paper (Charleston, WV), it's really quite uplifting. I did recently cancel my Kindle NY Times subscription, though!
- Michael Connick
Every day: NYT, Washington Post. But by the time I read them, I've already read it on the net.
- iSteeve
Years, unless a section is left behind on BART or a restaurant.
- Louis Gray
A month. I read a bit at my parents house since they get the newspaper. But I think they mostly get it to do the crosswords.
- Alex Scoble
i subscribe to the LA times, but by the time i read it, there's probably only about 10 articles that i haven't already seen online.
- Admiral Anika
a looooong time. I keep thinking I'll subscribe to the WSJ but I know I won't read it. I spend most of my commute time in my g reader on my iPhone.
- Morgan
from fftogo
At least 10 years, and I used to read 5 newspapers a day (including the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Washington Post).
- Sean McBride
Almost 2 years. In fact, we forgot to buy one the day our baby was born like we have for our other 3 kids since it's just not a part of our lives any more.
- Jesse Stay
Yesterday and every Sunday. NY Times.
- Dave Martin
This Saturday, the great Independent, though not bought a paper before then for ages. But we in London get several free papers that are dotted around every tube and Greater London station so I pick up the odd one sometimes to read
- Kol Tregaskes
I read one last winter out of curiosity. For the most part the answer could be 4-5 years?
- Kevin Gamble
I read the SJ Mercury from cover to cover yesterday. But honestly I only read the paper about once per week. Much easier to read news on the web in between tasks throughout the day.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Only when I go to a hotel on business, or it's at a restaurant lobby. I bought maybe 4 in the last year.
- Jeremiah Owyang
I read at least one newspaper every morning. I think it helps get away from the tunnel vision created by niche communities
- Adam
They insist on making you wait for them to make the full pot instead of offering you a free press coffee, or an americano. It's poor service.
- Justin Whitaker
My issue with Starbucks is the damage they are doing to the waste system. Whenever I order a douple espresso and say, "no lid" please, they say "We have to give you a lid". Then I say "I dont want one, its thick nasty PVC and Im just ganna throw in that trash can right there so please dont give me one", to which they reply "Im sorry, we HAVE to, here you go, have a nice day". And the...
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- Andrew Baron
Andrew: I've never noticed the paper-cup-first thing. I'll have to pay attention to that. This kind of thing deserves a good mocking.
- ha3rvey (sayin' nothin')
gee, two minutes. you sound like a spoiled brat
- Cee Bee
And when they filled your cup, they did so with Starbucks coffee and all its pretentious, overpriced nastiness.
- Dave Roth
Lets all get together and take 'em down right now, whattaya say!?
- Andrew Baron
hey, what about Dunkin Donuts? At least you have 'em on the mainland!
- Bill Sodeman
What? Starbucks has started serving coffee? I thought it was warm dishwater. :-)
- Jeremy Brooks
@Bill Sodeman DD coffee is awful, bitter, and only drinkable with copious amounts of sugar and cream. I prefer to make my own coffee, but when out, Starbucks is about all there is. Not many indie coffee houses near where I work.
- Justin Whitaker
we have tim hortons in canada ,, always fresh , new pot always on , plus you dont have to say all those silly words ,,,,
- johnpiercy
the problem I have with Starbucks is that what I want is a simple cup of coffee. I want it as big as it comes, and I don't need room for milk. I don't want a breakfast sandwich, I don't want a smoothie, I don't want a CD. Don't look at me like I am from another planet, you are a god-d*mn coffee shop.
- Justin Whitaker
Hey all... just buy coffee beans and make your own coffee... it's better... cheaper... and better for the environment. Easy for me I guess... I work from home about 50% of the time.
- Adrian Nadeau
actually, it sounds like you need to back off the coffee
- Narendra
I smell "Dell Sucks" all over again. how long until we meet BrandonAtSbux via Twitter
- Adam
Buy a Cuisinart grind 'n' brew, a pound a week of good beans, and a Stainless King 40oz Thermos. It's freedom, I tell you.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I'm tired of email. Work inbox always full, "me too" responses that I don't need to see, etc.
- MiniMage - HLtW
Such is the mantra of the internet popular folks. Us normal peons tend to manage our 10-20 direct messages a day fairly well
- Bwana ☠
@Robert - that is quite the switch for you isn't it :)
- Steven Hodson
I think what really gets my goat is the email notification of a direct message that I then have to log into a website to respond to. Why can't I just see and reply to the direct message via email?
- Mark Trapp
Email is so 2nd millennium. Now, when my friend wants me, I have her clap twice.
- david beckwith
I totally agree. I want to decide when to reply to a request. IMs make me look rude when not answered instantly.
- Dan van Moll
Bwana, this has nothing to do with popularity, it has to do with efficiently of communication. Also your 10-20 DM's per day are way more than I ever receive (thankfully), so I think you have the popularity thing reversed.
- Scott Beale
facebook still holds a use to those that don't have a twitter account. I like the mail interface there best
- Noah David Simon
one or two is fine, but I dont even have my phone on all the time..
- Danny Bo'itanni
Here, here. I've had "please don't facebook-message me" on my facebook profile since i created it...
- Sean Savage
Sean, good luck getting people to follow that. I've had the "no message" thing on my Facebook profile from the beginning, but most people just ignore it.
- Scott Beale
Twitter DM goes to my email and I can hit back via Twitterberry. Facebook far more intrusive and disruptive.
- Andrew Feinberg
Danny exactly, I get most of my DM's when I'm at my computer, so the mobile argument does not work. It's just one more system that I have to log into to reply, but worse, with Twitter my reply has to be 140 characters. 140 characters totally makes sense when posting to Twitter, but not for direct communication.
- Scott Beale
I have Twitter DMs directed to my mobile - and don't get email notification - and generally respond with email me at ... too bad there isn't an autoresponder on twitter. @sean does that work?
- Beth Kanter
My main problem is that Twitter DMs don't alert you in the UI. You just have to randomly notice the number go up on the right side. (I don't use SMS or email for them)
- Jordan Hofker
some of my email accounts are over twenty years old. I have to know you are sending it to see it. facebook helps me filter people who communicate. It would be nice to see someone make a friendfeed direct message system that worked like facebook's advanced threaded email. I don't like facebook any more then anyone else... but it has a purpose.
- Noah David Simon
Email is dead. Or dying, wasted in the gutter of history wallowing in it's own excrement, waiting to be put out of its misery
- Russell Beattie
no snail mail is dead not e-mail
- Victor
from twhirl
Niether is dead. Until teleportation is reality, snail mail cannot be. Dead is dead. For the love of tech, the telegraph JUST died this year.
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
Email is still too useful to die. Mail2ff, posting to services like RTM and Ping.fm. It's still the glue that holds a lot of stuff together and allows us to remotely access some of the most popular Web 2.0 software. I also don't see the point of DM's within a specific service. If I haven't given you my IM or Email info...I probably didn't want to speak to you directly and in private :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Either way is fine by me. They all come directly to my phone.
- Clint Ecker
the reply thing is actually turning out to be very annoying in Twhirl, simply because I can suppress them... so I see them each time I load the app. Ugh...
- ChangeForge | Ken Stewart
Email is good, but if some sends me a DM on Twitter, it comes to my mobile directly. So, if you need a quick reply, it's better to DM me, but if you want a detailed or proper reply, email wins. I guess each has its own situational benefits.
- Rajinder Singh
is it because direct message don't show up in your email?
- George Lee
Thanks to Jason C., email is on the rise again. All the tech bloggers are moving backwards.
- Bob Blunk
When Twitter IM worked (remember way back then?), I started to love DMs in lieu of emails. Now? I loathe them.
- Chris Brogan
Not so, I love direct messages on twitter. I never read them. LOL J/king. I always read them. You should see my contact list!! :P
- Paul
Scott, your comment about 140 character limits on DMs not being enough is one of the main problems. I mean, what's the point? If someone has a personal message, email is the best...Twitter is not the only stop on the internet.
- Zach Underwood
Russell I'm still not buying the whole "email is dead" thing, especially when the communication is not time sensitive. So what alternative means of contact are you giving to people that you don't know (ie. on your website, etc.)? IM, SMS, phone number? No thanks, I'll stick with email.
- Scott Beale
I prefer email. Comes straight to my phone and easy to reply. DMs are hard to reply to when I am mobile.
- Jeremy Franklin
Jeremy, exactly, with my iPhone it's very easy to reply to someone via email.
- Scott Beale
Like Rajinder, I think Twitter DM's are a great way to send a quick message or heads up. Similar to getting an SMS basically. But for serious communication or questions, email is the definite winner. You can be much more detailed and convey more (usually) important info that way.
- Dave Schumaker
I just want to be contacted. DM, email, Facebook, a hug...whatever :)
- Blake N. Cooper
I rely more on email than any social site to communicate, but that's me. Email is good for things that can wait a bit, DMs/IMs/SMS messages are good for immediate communication IF it is REALLY that important and in emergencies, I'd rather get a phone call. That's just me
- Andy Glover
My personal preference is the singing telegram, but few people care enough to really take the time these days.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
I"m the opposite. If you DM on twitter during the day, I'll know about it almost immediately as I use SMS. If you email me, I'll usually get it relatively quickly, as I check my email every hour or so during the working day, and a few times outside of the working day too. It's the phone I dislike
- Ian May
Regarding Facebook, I don't go into it for a few days at times. I treat it as a play time activity, and not for work use.
- Ian May
I don't understand putting yourself out there on a public framework, and not expecting people to contract you via that public mechanism. Twitter and those types of services are not a one way street. I can tell the world something, but don't bother me with your thoughts about it, unless you use the pre-approved comment system. Also, please don't pester me with your DMs, but make sure you subscribe to me on Identi.ca! Yeah, that sounds really fair to me. *sarcasm*
- Darrell Bell
Different tools for different needs: IM for instant message... "I'm in a mtg, can't get your call...is it important?". E-mail for more complete communication. Phone can be pretty useless, what with phone tag and voicemail tag.
- Mahboud Zabetian
However, what I dislike about Twitter & DM is that it kills my enjoyment/use of Twitter. I want to know what people are up to, what they are thinking, what they want others to know about. What is not enjoyable/useful is seeing half of a semi-private conversation. Like msg today: "@so_and_so didn't know! is he okay?!" Huh? Who? What? Should I ask? Wazzup? I think DMs should be DMS and not half-duplex shouts into the ether...
- Mahboud Zabetian
I use Twitter almost exclusively through email, via direct notifications and the daily FriendFeed summary email. My sister uses Twitter direct, and I am frustrated that I use email to reply. I check my girlfriend's twitter on the website sometimes when I'm curious :)
- Richard Soderberg
I dont think you are the minority here. Emails for direct messages are the best
- Rajat Tibrewal
from twhirl
Gregory - im no Michael Moore, nor do I want to be. I just dont care enough.
- loren feldman
I take great pride n that certain IT editors of Industry Standard and other still do not get it and can only debate with me by insulting everyone's intelligence
- Fred Grott
I mentioned Julia Allison's name in conversation with someone [from the "outside"] who I consider to be very tuned in. They never heard of her. Sweet. As for your next step, Loren- go for it!
- Donna Mugavero
True. It's often the same people talking about the same thing...like politics, which often is really boring too.
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
from twhirl
Tell me abou it! Even the "superstars" are dull. It's just too much tech.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
Man, it is refreshing to hear an A-Lister actually admit that the tech echo chamber is way overblown. Don't get me wrong, I love tech and techie things, I live and work in tech in Silicon Valley, but there is more to the world than Tech. If you spend all of your time reading the tech blogs and hanging out on social media sites, you would think that the whole world revolves around tech and that nothing else exists or matters. I'm looking forward to what Loren has to say once he broadens his horizons.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Good luck Loren. The beauty of tech is that it allows for and fosters all different types of conversation, in different formats. Use a megaphone, whisper, share your opinions using different styles in different mediums. Thanks for calling out the Twitterati on their memes and "meta" discussions. Use what you've learned to talk about what you love - don't just bring sand to the beach.
- Adam
No more software engineers in 2016? Are these guys on crack?
- Gavin
@Gavin, even more hilarious -- no auto mechanics in 8 years because cars "run on software". So why are people moaning about the price of gas? Stick a floppy in the tank!
- Sprague D
1999 called, they want their horrible navigation back. FC really needs to improve the usability of their site.
- Devlin Dunsmore
from twhirl
concur with Devlin, awful navigation. Ironic though that FC is criticizing bloggers for making snarky comments when the commentary they are making is snarky itself
- Duncan Riley
I think there's a difference btw blogs dying and having the title blogger. blogging is already integrated into so many different job functions. Who knows, in 2016 the term blogger could be extinct because it will be synonamous with reporter, or marketer, or CEO...
- Adam
I blog for my a particular constituency of my company's market; just started doing it, someone had to
- Shannon
There will always be jobs for people who author content, though the title "Blogger" may be subsumed into various roles. Truly professional bloggers (no, not really an oxymoron) may simply be thought of as writers, analysts or journalists, while the rest of us will remain the amateur pundits we are today.
- Barry Graubart
I've never been paid for it, but plenty of paying jobs have come out of it.
- Rick Grant
I think the future holds more jobs to become remote, then corporate, we're already seeing this, and it saves corporation tons of money, including the employee...example > employee travel w/ this gas situation
- petes2cents.com
My blogging and social networking participation doesn't appear in my job description, yet it has absolutely contributed to the success of my business. I spend an hour a day on it, and the payback is more than any other hour of the day in terms of direct/indirect contact with my customers.
- Ed Brill
I just got the VP at my company into blogging and he's hooked. He's getting feedback from customer's in the form of comments and is gaining leads from search results. I don't think blogging will die in eight years.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
Content creation will always exist and connecting with community never stops. I blog because I want to and its had big benefits on my visibility inside and outside of the company.
- Alex
even more hilarious -- no auto mechanics in 8 years because cars "run on software". So why are people moaning about the price of gas? Stick a floppy in the tank! -----I can't keep laughing! :P
- Jia Liu
twitter, email, friendfeed, occasionally google reader, andrewsullivan
- Robert Stribley
widsets is quite good. readbag - for all the content I haven't time for, bloglines feeds and that's it for reading. why not gaming? :)
- Sasha Kovaliov
from twhirl
widsets is quite good. readbag - for all the content I haven't time for, bloglines feeds and that's it for reading. why not gaming? :)
- Sasha Kovaliov
from twhirl
kind of cool how quickly folks have switched from one service to the other. says something about competition and lockin.. like it doesn't exist any more.
- Jason Calacanis
from Bookmarklet
The iPhone interface the just released has made me want to be on FF more now.
- Ralph Whitbeck
given that FriendFeed is a little more "work" than twitter, that kind of conversion rate is very impressive.
- Robert Seidman
well, you can add me here Jason. i have not abandoned twitter. but FF does replace pownce & *some* facebook activity for sure.
- Barbara K. Baker
Good stat - that's a question a lot of Twitter's power users have...how can I transfer my community over here?
- Hutch Carpenter
Jason, who says they're all switching? I use both so don't count me as a switch.
- Mike Doeff
Julian: He doesn't know, but I think we can probably guess that he's right.
- Eric Florenzano
Julian, since his primary base of followers are on Twitter, I think it's fair to guess that the bulk of his FriendFeed followers were responding to his twitter broadcasts. While Jason should've probably said "following me on FriendFeed in ADDITION to following me on Twitter" (instead of switching) if he has 1/4th as many followers on here as there, it's still pretty impressive after 2 weeks.
- Robert Seidman
ok, but on what grounds can you debunk the assumption that most of those followers came via Twitter?
- Robert Seidman
Twitter is still something I use. All of my @ replies can be done through FriendFeed and, my own updates can be done via text or Twhirl now. The way I see it, FriendFeed streamlined Twitter.
- Candace
Jason, I don't think you can really say that folks have switched from one service to another that quickly. Granted Twitter problems have prompted me to use FriendFeed a lot more. However, I haven't stopped using Twitter either and I don't plan to anytime soon. I think both services go hand in hand.
- Chris Rodgers
There's no stopping you. It doesn't matter the medium!
- Alex Hammer
Me either, just using both network while also trying to use Jaiku, which is a really good surprise
- Jean-François Amadei
from twhirl
only 10% in my case, and still only a fraction of my friends on Twitter are the same as the friends I have on Facebook - different crowds, different crowds.
- Adam
If TechMeme is about memes, shouldn't it stay that way? How many new products or personal bloggers become legitimate memes. Very few,
- Francine Hardaway
from NoiseRiver
Definitely more start-ups. I do write about them for a living, so I'm biased, but we can get big co. news on NYT and CNN
- Dan Kaplan
I like techmeme as it is, but I also like the idea of more personal blogs... perhaps a separate site (blogmeme)?
- Adnan
I liked TechMeme because it was different than Google News. If I wanted a clone of Google News, I'd just read Google News. I always liked TechMeme because it covered the new media. Bloggers, etc. You've lost that and I've found it less and less relevant since then because of it.
- Robert Scoble
I don't know that you want to clutter techmeme with this kind of stuff, but I'd love to see you branch out with another service.
- Rick Turoczy
i'm still waiting for the techmeme backpage
- MG Siegler
I don't know what it should include but YABAT (yet another bitchmeme about Twitter) is enough to put me off tech news for the weekend.
- Cyndy
I'd like to see an entirely seperate Meme aggregator on product launches. Also, food and football, when you get around to it :)
- Adam
I think I need to label myself something totally different. Quick. Where is my brand manager!
- Erin @queenofspain
Erin, you are a social expert who happens to primarily use new media.
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
no no no. no web strategist. no social media expert. no no no no no
- Erin @queenofspain
Erin, you aren't a social media expert -- you are the Queen of Spain :-)
- mathew ingram
Just because somebody calls you something, doesn't mean that you are that something. Plus anyone is only an expert to people that know less than them.
- Will
ah yes Will, but it is all about perception, isn't it?
- Erin @queenofspain
I've adopted the phrase "Social Media Devotee" - I'm devoted to it, but I have no desire to pretend expertise.
- Lucretia Pruitt
At least you don't work at the Pizza Pizza
- Brian Sullivan
If you put that as a quote in your "about me" page, get someone to beat you silly. Otherwise, I would just let it go. You aren't to blame.
- leigh himel
Perception is powerful. But you'll only jump the shark once you start believing that you're a Social Media Expert and start parading around to self-created fanfare about it. As long as it's only the perception of others, you're still safe.
- Will
You know what *they* say: "once you start believing your press..."
- Barbara K. Baker
that's okay Erin I was called a social media pundit when I guest posted at Mashable :)
- Steven Hodson
social media pundit???!!! ROFL ok, that is pretty good. What's worse a political pundit or a social media pundit????
- Erin @queenofspain
@Erin I'm not sure but I think in either case a shower might be in order :)
- Steven Hodson
try digital media guru - makes my skin crawl. anytime i hear the word guru in fact, now especially since the Mike Myers bomb.
- Adam
way to go guys, onwards and upwards! good luck! you haven't worked at a real startup unless there is a foozball table or a pool table. looks like you are legit :)
- Ivan Stegic
a malmo chair from ikea! the very same colour as mine!
- Giovanni De Stefano
I like that office, I wish mine was that nice!!
- Paul
It seems you bought more tables and chairs to hire more hackers. I like how open your office is.
- seman
We actually didn't buy any tables or chairs - they were left here by the last company. We have a table/chair graveyard in the back as a consequence :)
- Bret Taylor
It looks exactly the same as the old office...
- Jini
The red chair is still my favorite, but it looks like I have more seats to try out.
- Amit Patel
On first thought - great Place! I like the open air about it... but on second thought I don't think I can work in such an open space. I just need my personal space.
- Parth Awasthi
sweet, but I'd put those pool cues in a cue holder or they will bend stored leaning against a wall...causing bad shots. also sunlight on pool table will cause fading, but you probably will just get a new table eventually w/ all the success! :)
- Pokai
sacrilege to say I think it looks pretty ugly?
- Adam
It's not just bacon - it's post apocalyptic bacon! It's nice to know our bacon needs will still be met in a nuclear wasteland :)
- Jennifer Dittrich
I recently got my friend the bacon wallet (http://is.gd/vdY) for his bday, I wanted to get him the bacon tux (http://is.gd/vdZ) but my wife put her foot down. :) Who doesn't want a bacon tux??
- felix
If you guys love bacon, check this out..They say it makes EVERYTHING taste like real bacon... www.baconsalt.com
- Anthony