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Hah @adamjackson beat seven billion people to Twitter but claims that he is not an early adopter. We ALL are.
Ritesh Lal, Kelly Mitchell and Adam Jackson liked this
Hey Robert. I guess a better way to say it is that I don't adopt "technologies" quickly. I still use desktop mail apps, Sharepoint, Microsoft Exchange server & I don't use any cloud storage systems. Most of my stuff is stored and maintained on servers that I personally own and maintain. I don't trust the cloud or web based apps. Chrome OS doesn't appeal to me.
- Adam Jackson
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Yeah. I'm reporting things at least twice a day now it's insane.
- Adam Jackson
*sigh* we have a long long way to go folks. :)
Charlie Anzman, Joshua Schnell, Michael McKean and 3 other people liked this
And enough Swedish Fish to get there! ;-)
- Kathy Fitch
I #blamedrewscancer for the "sigh" *flips off the cancer*
- Joshua Schnell
We need to do a Tweetup with @rangercraig he is a ranger on Alcatraz. Could he lock up @arrington ? That would be fun!
Adam Jackson liked this
I've gone on ranger craigs tour before. If you're a friend it's a special tour and great for photographers!
- Adam Jackson
from iPhone
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Back in land of lots of tech.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Question is - now you're there, what are you going to do!?
- Mark Aitken
Drive Rocky home. :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
You are all heart! Hope you don't tweet and drive? We need you alive Robert! :-) Safe trip.
- Mark Aitken
And Rocky too (sorry Rocky).
- Mark Aitken
sorry i didnt get a chance to cya this trip
- sean percival
Sean: we will be back soon.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I am sorry for not getting much Twiistup time. Anyone for meeting at Manhattan beach tomorrow?
Darren Heydon, Mo Kargas, Amani and Adam Jackson liked this
how long are you in LA?
- Tristan Walker
Hey Scoble! I'm at the @Yoono booth totally locked down tonight and tomorrow. I'd love to meet up but I have a 2PM flight back to SFO
- Adam Jackson
What time and where? I live close by.
- Duc Nguyen
What time tomorrow? I will be there around mid-morning for breakfast. Know a good restaurant over there too.
- Amani
I am on the 2 pm United flight. I can meet before then but really don't want to drive far.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Lover to meet up with Jerry Shuman in tow from Perssonas...
- New Medici
Amani: know a good breakfast place? How about 10 am?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I love Jerry and want to see his latest stuff.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert - I'm on 2:50PM United Flight (LAX-SFO) Twiistup until Noon then huff it to the airport.
- Adam Jackson
I'm coming into LAX (on Saturday though).
- Micah Wittman
Yea, I asked Brian Solis where you were and he said you made a very brief appearance. Oh well...see you next time.
- Mark Krynsky
Manhattan Beach will be madness this weekend with the Surf Festival and 6-man volleyball tournament going on. One huge beach party. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Mike Shulman
Robert - Are we still on?
- Amani
Yes
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Heading to manhatan beach for lunch with @reganfletcher. Curious if you guys are still hanging
- Adam Jackson
from iPhone
Adam, they are getting ready to go to the airport soon so I dont believe they are hanging anymore.Sorry.
- Amani
Thanks amani. Traffic got the best of us. Were just making it close to make our own flight.
- Adam Jackson
from iPhone
Fed Up, A Popular Mac Developer Quits The iPhone - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Frank is well-known in some circles as a Mac enthusiast. You know, the kind of person that is often derided as a “fanboy.” And that’s why what I’m about to tell you is surprising: He’s ditching his iPhone.
- MG Siegler
from Bookmarklet
Wow.
- Matt Cutts
Eh, he'll go back to the Mac as soon as they make something shiny new for him again.
- Piaw Na
I honestly don't get all the uproar over the Google Voice app rejection. Why would AT&T let you use your unlimited data plan for a competing phone service when they charge you by the minute for that same service? It's like getting upset that Burger King won't sell you a Big Mac.
- invariant - farewell FF
invariant: Google Voice uses regular telephony, not VoIP. Any calls you make with Google Voice would have to go through AT&T's voice network, and would use your minutes.
- Mark Trapp
@invariant, because people want a useful phone instead of a piece of junk? It sounds like you revel in tolerating junk, tho, so be my guest....
- j1m
++Mark, but what freaks me out here is that even though GV would drive more calls (and revenue) to AT&T, they can't get past "but it does what we do and we can't have that". That is just plain broken. My best guess (and that's all that most people are actually doing about this...) is that somebody at AT&T gazed into a crystal ball and said "You know, at some point they won't need us....
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- Andy Bold
Considering that you can run GV on other phones on AT&T's network, it's hard to fathom why AT&T would be the ones nixing the app.
- Gabe
He should go re-read The Fountainhead, and then Animal Farm. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. Ideals are inevitably compromised. Those who do not compromise their ideals are replaced by those who do. And a corollary from the priest in Caddyshack: "There is no god!"
- Walter Korman
RT @aboodman: Alright people, get out there and make some [Google Chrome] themes. http://dev.chromium.org/develop...
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@shelisrael that reckless driver turned his lifestream into a neardeathstream
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About to announce a pre-order offer on the blog re. The Ignore Everybody print http://www.gapingvoidgallery.com/product... Hint: $275 pre-order, with $50 deposit.
Adam Jackson liked this
Hmm @adamjackson is saying he's seeing a new Twitter home page. So is @techcrunch I'm not seeing it yet.
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Oh, that's just the login page. Looks nice! TechCrunch has the screen captures: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Robert Scoble
It has unicorns and sexy ladies on it. Oh wait, that's just you and my fiancee'
- drew olanoff
but not together. separate. ew.
- drew olanoff
no offense.
- drew olanoff
I keep looking for the sexy ladies and unicorns. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Its nothing special.
- Matt G
I heard that, but haven't been able to track it down yet.
- jwewrite
Very Googlish.
- drew olanoff
It reminds me of FriendFeed's Grasslands Theme.
- Robert Scoble
drew: no fail whale! Yet.
- Robert Scoble
It reminds me of someone saying "Our search works badassly and it will make you want to sign up". Hope thats the case, for Twitter :)
- drew olanoff
I really like it but I see Seesmic so I'll only get to see it once. :(
- John Blanton
Search page design slightly updated as well. Looks pretty evolutionary but better looking IMO.
- Todd Pringle
I just saw the new Twitter homepage.
- Kenneth
Hey Robert. Looms like you got it now. Yeah just the homepage. What do you think?
- Adam Jackson
from iPhone
A good redesign but excessively dark, no?
- Alex Araujo (fotozine)
Adam: I like it better than the old one. But I like Rex Hammock's take on it: it features Twitter's worst feature: trending topics, he says. http://twitter.com/r...
- Robert Scoble
Robert: see some of the advanced search options? They have really improved it. http://search.twitter.com/advance...
- Adam Jackson
from iPhone
needs more cowbell
- drew olanoff
What's new in Advanced Search? For me looks exactly the same.
- Alex Araujo (fotozine)
Alex- IDK I had no clue those features were there before. Advanced search was "that advanced"? I had no idea.
- Adam Jackson
I am seeing the new page
- Robert Burgin
OK, honestly, let's say you have no idea what Twitter is, you come to the home page, you click on Blue M&Ms which is one of the biggest trending topics and you find this: http://search.twitter.com/search... -- really, would you come back? Would you feel like you HAVE to say something? That you HAVE to engage? Now compare to Facebook where the first thing you see is YOUR...
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- Robert Scoble
I've had 3 comments get eaten on this thread. I was going to mention the emphasis on trending topics.
- motownmutt
Adam: me neither, I knew about a lot of those, but it seems like they've added on some features to search lately.
- Robert Scoble
Adam, well... yes. At least everything you see in Advanced Search was there before the redesign.
- Alex Araujo (fotozine)
Thanks Alex and Robert. Sorry for the false alarm. New homepage, I'm undecided. at least I don't have to look at it.
- Adam Jackson
Well, I think Twitter is focusing on what they should be, search.
- Manuel Mas
Manuel: oh, absolutely, they should focus on search. It's just not very engaging, that's all.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble: True, I give you that. And again, it feels slow and not elegant.
- Manuel Mas
Anyone notice the "save this search" link?
- Jesse Stay
Saved Search is a recent feature but was there previously to the redesign.
- Alex Araujo (fotozine)
Heh, looks like people don't know too much about Twitter Search. That's one of the biggest Twitter problems. The search was so hidden that nobody use it.
- Alex Araujo (fotozine)
I thought it was the 28th. Oh dear, did I lose a day again?
- Dave Ferrick
Search needs partial matches, stemming. But really more than anything they need to make older tweets searchable. Not a very real-time POV, but it's how I used to use twitter.
- motownmutt
Easier than logging out: open an incognito window in Chrome and go to twitter.com
- Jim Bergman
I'm seeing it - oh well!
- atanas
Everyone like @shelisrael is looking at Zappos sales. Wrong number to pay attention to. Here's why:
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Retail usually has profits of about 5%. Which means out of a billion in sales, Zappos only kept $50,000,000, out of which they had to pay rent, employees, benefits, etc. So, when you see that the purchase price was about $900 million in stock, that makes sense considering the smaller $50 million in real revenue number.
- Robert Scoble
rofl
- Joel Bennett
lol
- Justin
I'm playing duck hunt while scoble types out why.... :)
- Adam Jackson
Adam: you're funny and a bad shot!
- Robert Scoble
I know the duck move very fast.
- Adam Jackson
They got people to buy shoes online. Amazon wouldn't have figured that out alone.
- Tom
Nice observation
- Michele Neylon
Duck hunt :P There's something I haven't thought of in a hundred years.
- Jason Hargrove
Anyway, the way to look at it is really this is a company with $50 million to $100 million in real revenues. That's why $900 million in stock makes sense.
- Robert Scoble
is the retail margin you posted, robert, for brick and mortar retail? or online retail?
- Tristan Walker
Tom: right, and Amazon gets a bunch of really great executives and a culture that NO ONE can match.
- Robert Scoble
Tristan: both.
- Robert Scoble
Uh Robert, aren't profits usually calculated AFTER deducting rent, salaries, benefits, etc.? Perhaps you mean operating profit, in which case 5% is low for retail industry.
- Ritesh Lal
ya its not about revenue, its about annual net profit usually
- sean percival
Yeah, this deal was calculated as a multiple of EBITDA or PBT, not top line revs.
- Alan Chamberlain
Tristan: retail sucks unless you are Apple.
- Robert Scoble
Sean and Ritesh are right. My number is NOT net profit. That's even lower.
- Robert Scoble
Zappos has 1,500 employees and a huge warehouse, etc.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: have you heard of bonobos? those guys are pulling impressive margins because theyre direct to consumer, and how about companies like threadless?
- Tristan Walker
Tristan: I'd be shocked if they make that much profit percentage wise. They probably have a nice business, though. So does Zappos.
- Robert Scoble
The ones who are scared by this are the IT vendors who supply Zappos.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Does _web_ retail really have only 5% profits?
- Joel Bennett
What about http://www.endless.com, Amazon's shoe site?
- Andrew
i think threadless runs at 30% profit margins, will send the link to where i found that stat
- Tristan Walker
metageoff: Zappos doesn't have that much IT. Joel: yes. Think about it. Anyone can open a web business.
- Robert Scoble
Tristan: Threadless has a very unique business model though.
- Ryan
Tristan: that's very high margins for retail, if true.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Can you point me somewhere (edit: grammar) detailing web and brick retail comparisons?
- Jason Hargrove
"doesn't have that much IT" - therefore the IT vendors they do have are easy targets for "new efficiencies"
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
depends on the business
- You.
http://www.inc.com/ss... "The business grosses $30 million a year and enjoys profit margins of 30 percent."
- Tristan Walker
I'd think Amazon can squeeze savings out of the distribution side too.
- Ryan
@Ryan I agree but there are fantastic opportunities in online retail that generate impressive margins. that being said, i understand why zappos would be MUCH lower...amazon will certainly help bump up those numbers through various synergies
- Tristan Walker
Amazons next buy will be Rackspace, Great culture and good company. ( I am just guessing based on common sense )
- Luis Borjas
Luis: don't scare me like that! :-) Jason: I can't, but helped manage retail stores for the first 10 years of my career.
- Robert Scoble
Quick look at Yahoo Finance says Robert's numbers are in the ballpark. Amazon, Walmart, both have operating profit 4-5%, and net about 1 point lower. Best is Target with 6.7% operating profit. Costco is terrible at 2.53%.
- Ritesh Lal
My take was that Amazon is buying a culture. http://www.onebyonemedia.com/amazon-...
- Jim Turner
Robert, would love to chat with you about your experience there at some point. Interesting space
- Tristan Walker
Robert: Retail doesn't suck for Apple because they are vertically integrated. It's just another 5% to add to their bottom line.
- Ryan
Robert: fair enough. Hmm. A breakdown on web retailers would be awesome. I see a few links here already. Research task for the summer perhaps.
- Jason Hargrove
I assume by "retail" you mean that they don't also manufacture what they sell.
- You.
So will Amazon make all their employees go on Twitter? Imagine the horror although they could probably squeeze a bit more productivity out of them.
- Mark Littlewood
Jim: That works. ~sometimes. Hmm. Maybe 'rarely' is a better word. It's tough to acquire a brand culture unless you're prepared for full adoption. One (decade+ old) example is Canada's Telus (http://telus.com) that acquired a small mobile carrier called Clearnet, paving the way for Telus to become a mobile powerhouse. It was all about the Clearnet brand. I remember the CEO quoted as...
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- Jason Hargrove
I wondering if Zappos excellent customer service will be adopted by Amazon, or will it lose some of its well known service. (Hopefully not)
- Kim Landwehr
Mixing both companies will be a mistake, because they go with different strategies to achieve differentiation. Amazons focuses on efficiency and lowest cost, Zappos focuses on costumer happiness. I think they can both learn from one another and then keep serving their respective costumers with the strategies that have made them successful this far.
- Jorge
Robert, congrats on being a VC, but your 5% estimate for an online retailer seem lower than anything I have heard before. EVER.
- shelisrael1
shelisrael1: OK, so let's say it's 30%. Still is 300 million, not a billion like the number you used. I don't think Zappos is that high. If it were, they wouldn't have laid people off last fall.
- Robert Scoble
agree with robert...impossibkle their margins are in the 30% range
- Tristan Walker
I think we are seeing perhaps a mixing here that could work. With Zappos customer centric culture and Amazon's backend infrastructure. I think that was part of the reason for the layoff since it was mostly that par tof Zappos' company that felt the crunch.
- Jim Turner
Good reminder, people often look at the big figure and forget where it all goes.
- Andrew Nimick
Everyone seems to be high on Amazon - and if your order comes as expected they are good. But, if it doesn't, the customer service sucks.Example: Order with next day delivery (extra charge) but fulfillment slips from Thurs to Friday. No Sat. delivery, won't come till Monday. Call Amazon and they will redirect you to take it up with the carrier. Fail
- PXLated
Talked to some manufacturers reps that handle Amazon. Example-1: Amazon orders by the container load and reorders when down to xx units. Rep gets a new container order and was amazed they'd sold the last that fast. They hadn't, they still had a half container in the warehouse and didn't even know it.
- PXLated
Example-2: Customer orders a $2K product. Receives it with a broken part ($150 part). Instead of shipping part, Amazon ships a completely new unit. This happens three more times. And, the customer had to threaten to have the other (broken units) declared abandoned property to get Amazon to pick up the other four units.
- PXLated
So, I fear for Zappos
- PXLated
I'll be at Los Angeles' Twiistup later this month. Yoono is up for a showoff: http://twitter.com/Yoono... See ya there!
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Thanks Robert for the post.
- Adam Jackson
Nice. Are you staying through Thursday night? If so, I'll see you there.
- Mark Krynsky
Peoplebrowsr needs a good UI designer. Everything they do is about 500% too complicated.
Adam Jackson liked this
Dude, there's more to this world than 'aggregating content'. Jesus Christ.
ǝuǝƃnǝ, Adam Jackson and Sajida H Khan liked this
I don't understand why fonts look so "chunky" on Windows. That alone would make me use a Mac only. #typography
Adam Jackson liked this
Here what the New Iphone Look Next the Old Iphone (via http://friendfeed.com/emailfo...)
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what do you guy think of the new Iphone upgrade or not to upgrade that is the question??
- Richard Thomson
Wait for 4g. They held back on this knowing lots are locked in and can't upgrade.
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
I'm waiting for 4G and Verizon in 2011.
- Bill Sodeman
Is it just me or does it look 100% identical.
- Vincent van Wylick
I'm a current iPhone 3G owner and find nothing compelling about the new hardware. Frankly, I'm quite happy that the 3G S is not a huge leap forward, because I've spent way too much on toys, this year, anyway. OS 3.0 is enough, for me.
- Phil Essing
yeah the way to get people to buy thing is to make it look diffent and not the same
- Richard Thomson
Social Browser Extension Yoono Adds OneRiot’s Real-Time Search Engine - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Adam Jackson liked this
Thanks for the post Robin!
- Adam Jackson
I'll be on CNN.com live talking about the iPhone in a few www.cnn.com/live1
Vishy, Paul Buchheit, April Buchheit and 14 other people liked this
man, that is awesome - congrats
- Zee.
HAVE A GREAT TIME! :P
- Adam Jackson
Only "maybe" getting an iPhone 3G S: how is TechCrunch supposed to live up to its iPhoneTwitterFriendFeedCrunch name? Pshaw I say!
- Mark Trapp
hahaha did you see me being the dork with the headset on?!
- Veronica
also, i sound like shit. damn cold!
- Veronica
Your audio was at least clear: the guy from Wired kept cutting in and out. Is this a regular thing on CNN? Pretty cool that they bring in a panel of tech bloggers and just geek out about a product.
- Mark Trapp
Yeah, I think they do it every week! This was my first time, but I know Pirillo does it a lot. I didn't know who else was going to be on, so it was a nice surprise to be there with MG!
- Veronica
yeah i was gonna do it last week but bailed, jumped on today at the last second. will definitely do more, but i should probably get a dorky headset like you veronica so people can hear me.
- MG Siegler
@ Mark, RE: the Wired guy cutting in and out - fitting for a panel about the iPhone? I kid. Maybe.
- Brian Chang
they're lucky I didn't wear my new gaming headset. it's pretty... intense.
- Veronica
Sounds like fun. Who wants to try it and report back?
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:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
My Rottweiler just looks confused.
- Chris Baskind
hmmm I think the neighbor lady is calling the cops
- martha
Everyone is welcome to try other ideas from http://whentwitterisdown.com
- Dee S.
Ah I see. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Or yell "like"!!!
- Adam Jackson
follow a real world person!
- daviza
Twitter Is Down: 15 Alternative Things To Do - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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required reading once again
- MG Siegler
from Bookmarklet
LOL
- Roberto Bonini
I'm surprised no one has created a site yet that tracks Twitter outages and builds community around that. :-)
- Jesse Stay
It's a TweetDownTwitastrophe! Everyone hold your tweets!
- joebrooks
It's called Friendfeed, Jesse. :)
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
"When Twitter is down, it's even harder to explain to people" :D
- Jérôme Flipo
17. Hang out with your cats in an awkward social silence wishing you could share the moment with your followers
- Jay Cuthrell
from BuddyFeed
Adam, awesome, but they could totally do better - I want graphs with dates of when Twitter is down, places to discuss, things to do when it's down, etc.
- Jesse Stay
Actually Jessey, that site doesn't work anymore. http://istwitterdown.com takes you to an index of files. yes is one of them. I agree that a site dedicated to that would be fantastic!
- Adam Jackson
So much for that whole "support the situation in Iran" thing! Too bad FriendFeed is blocked by the sekrit polees as well!
- Stephen Foskett
a tip we just got: "You're TechCrunch. You probably already know. But just in case, Twitter is down right now. For the record, I'm just completing Step 7 of MG's 15 things to do while Twitter is down list."
- MG Siegler
wonder if twitter's down because iran is attacking?
- bbebop
No, Iran is attacking its people because twitter is down.
- jcunwired
Nope, a North Korean missile just hit Twitter HQ.
- Gabe Rivera
not sure if twitter is doing the scheduled maintenance right now...but, when you get sensational headlines like this http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009... , you're pretty much gonna go down with the ensuing traffic spike.
- mike
@bbebop - I was thinking the same thing. LOL. Just take out the data center air conditioners and the whole thing cascades into Fail Whale.
- Rob Sterling
I shaved and do look fantastic now. Kind of. :-)
- Zalt Woo
Does anyone else think that Twitter will go down unintentionally soon after it is back up due to all the pent-up and back-logged tweets? Let's hope it does not, but I get a feeling from reading all the posts, comments both here on FF and elsewhere, that in couple of hours after it is back up, we will see a fail-whale.
- Dilip Dand
Jeremy's Extreme Ford Fiesta road test - Top Gear - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Awesome review. Gets very good halfway through. =)
- ronin
from Bookmarklet
This is the best thing I've ever seen in my life.
- Derrick
WTF? :D
- Johnny Worthington
I was shocked that it actually made it onto the beach.
- ronin
typical top gear quality, great shots & camera angles, great sound, great humor and always providing something special in their reviews
- Dickbuttkick
best show on the telli <3
- Chris Hofmann
I was looking for a car to store my zebra head!
- Steve C
"I've got 120 horsepower in this, you don't want any more than that on marble." "He's made the classic baddie mistake." OMG this is the best thing ever in the history of the internet. (in the last half hour at least)
- Steve C
@ steve C it gets better just watch ;)
- Dickbuttkick
"The windscreen is heated, but not bulletproof." "the kids are being annoying, shoot them." I have just peed myself with delight.
- Steve C
"well look at that! the smoke grenades fit perfectly in the cup holders"
- Dickbuttkick
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
Saw this, like the car.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
HANDBRAKE!!
- Alex Scoble
I'm pretty much in agreement with Derrick on this one...pure awesome!
- Alex Scoble
Awesome! @ronin I was shocked it got onto the beach too! Almost made me want to go out and buy one, but I was disappointed by the lack of bullet proof windows :P
- Penny
San Francisco Tweetup/friendfeed gathering tomorrow: 4:30 p.m. Pier 23 bar. Meet me there. Along with some other Rackspace employees.
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how late do you think you'll be there?
- Jeremy Toeman
Sorry, won't be there...it would take too long to drive there :) I'm in Abbotsford, B.C. 40 miles East of Vancouver Canada. Come up here and I'll be there :) Have fun none the less.
- Owen Greaves
How late will this run?
- Mitchell McKenna
I'm heading to San Francisco for the first time tomorrow. Count me in!!
- Wesley Donehue
Who's buying the beer?
- Buzz Bruggeman
Love to make it, not sure I can hand off parenting duties two nights in a row however. See ya Thursday at the very least.
- Rick Bucich
I'll try to stop by.
- Adam Jackson
Jeremy, we should only be there until 6 cause we have a boat we have to be on after that.
- Robert Scoble
Buzz: you buy your own beer.
- Robert Scoble
Did I mention I'm coming all the way from South Carolina to attend your tweetup?
- Wesley Donehue
Robert, You should do an "i'm on a boat" live from the boat. :P
- Adam Jackson
^ haha
- Byron McCollum
Who's buying the wine then?
- Buzz Bruggeman
so we're all invited to the boat ride too? :)
- Jeremy Toeman
Wesley: in your case I'll buy you a beer. Heheh. Same with Buzz, cause he's a great friend too. Of course that means I'll have two myself so everyone else will probably get me to pay for theirs after that. Heheh. Adam: I might post some stuff from the boat too. Jeremy: unfortunately I can't.
- Robert Scoble
Standard disclaimer: Clicking like does not indicate my attendance. I just like it.
- Louis Gray
Ok, I'm with Louis. I like it, but Sheryl and I will be here in Washington. It's too far for beer.
- Ken Camp
When might you be back in Austin?
- Arthur Edstrom
from BuddyFeed
Lol Louis. I'm with you on that ;) (in fact not a chance I'm flying in for a tweetup / friend Feed (as much as I miss SF))
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Where's the boat going?
- Cristo
Cristo: it's going in circles around Alcatraz. ;-) Arthur: maybe in July, but looks like we'll be in San Antonio mostly.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I should tell you someday about the time Danger & T-Mobile rented out Alcatraz for the night and had the Wallflowers play a concert with SF as the backdrop. Woz was there. It was pretty cool. :) I believe that was the first time Alcatraz was ever used by a commercial entity.
- Cristo
Planning to stop bye. Last time I saw you was in the Seatac airport last year.
- Alan Morris
We should do a FeedUp in Austin in July...or in San Antonio
- Arthur Edstrom
So there!
- krystyl
Robert- I'll miss that one Any other events next week? I'll be in SV M-Th, next week.
- William Mougayar
William: I will be in NY next week. Check Upcoming.org for events.
- Robert Scoble
I'll be there. Just moved back to SF after leaving 8 years ago as a dot com dropout. Would like to talk to some Rackspace person about how to translate my thinking from client-server app development to SaaS development.
- Nathan Wenzel
Quick Question for FriendFeeders! When I signed up FriendFeed allowed me to auto subscribe to all the Twitter Accounts I was following. Is there a way for me to run that function again?
- Jason Pollock
I'll be there.
- Thomas Hawk
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Woot! yoono rocks!
- Adam Jackson
A friend got me a seat at the very exclusive Palm Pre launch in LA with the Palm execs, should I fly to LA just for that you think?
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YES!
- Adam Jackson
Maybe i'm overestimating the pre but think of it like the iPhone launch. Would you have been there for that?
- Adam Jackson
Will you be developing Seesmic desktop for the Pre? If so, I'd say yes.
- Mark Krynsky
Loic; you can totally bemuse all of us with various photos of yourself in repose with Palmers of note, around the device, and other random stuff. I say do it.
- Nick Wade
Some stats from Twitter conference compared to Google:
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Twitter is seeing about 200 tweets per second, during peak loads.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter is seeing about 10gigs of new data created every day.
- Robert Scoble
Google is seeing 4 billion queries per day. How many is that per second? 46,296
- Robert Scoble
Whew, that's a lot of queries.
- Robert Scoble
I think the 4B is just API calls. That's not counting, you know, actual search queries. :)
- Matt Cutts
200 tweets per second is a lot less than I thought.
- Adam Jackson
Matt: that's wild.
- Robert Scoble
if twitter grows to the size of facebook i.e 200 million so 10 times... thats still only 2k per second...
- Robert O'Callaghan
Adam: that's according to people who are getting the firehose feed.
- Robert Scoble
I assumed it would be more than that, too.
- Robert Scoble
Ah ok. Which, to my knowlede is just google, friendfeed and just a few other "partners" do we know who is a firehose partner?
- Adam Jackson
But, looking through the data it seems most people don't tweet very often.
- Robert Scoble
And that is because Twitter is just getting to be popular in the rest of the world, wait to see what is coming..
- Julian Flores
sort of weird comparison, tweets are writes and queries are reads
- Kiran Patchigolla
Adam: we don't have a comprehensive list, no. There are others, though.
- Robert Scoble
And are firehose partners getting ALL tweets?
- Julian
Robert: have you spoken to Nick from tweetmeme - he has some real good stats regarding rt's, data growth over the last 2 years etc
- Robert O'Callaghan
Kiran: yeah, it's not a good comparision, to be sure. But if there's only 200 tweets a second I seriously doubt that Twitter search is seeing many people hit it.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: nope, I need to, though.
- Robert Scoble
Julian: according to the people getting the firehose feed, they are supposed to be getting every Tweet.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: not my blog but some stats from Nick at @devnest http://dalelane.co.uk/blog...
- Robert O'Callaghan
The people who are getting the firehose feed also say that it's very difficult to deal with the data flow at the level it is today (and they say that even Twitter isn't doing very well at it, look at how bad Twitter search was last week). THey all are wondering how they will deal when Twitter's traffic is 100x what it is today.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: this is what I love about friendfeed. The post gets better over time because of everyone's participation. Thanks!
- Robert Scoble
10 Gigs of data per day is not much.
- Louis Gray
Robert: yes I love FF too :-) Found the slides from Nick http://www.slideshare.net/nickhal...
- Robert O'Callaghan
Yes that's what I don't understand Robert, 200 tweets/s x 160 chars (including headers) = 32kB a second. This is not difficult to deal with, surely (+XML / JSON overhead, still tiny amounts)
- Julian
Louis: it's not much, but it's all text. The real struggle that many of these companies have is with photos and video and other data types. It's very expensive to deal with all this data. I wonder if we could decrease the cost of hosting and dealing with it all by sharing the data in some way?
- Robert Scoble
Julian: it's not the per second amount that's difficult to deal with. It's that the size of databases keeps growing. Remember the guy who bragged about having 800 million rows in his database?
- Robert Scoble
Now, what happens if you need to resort your database? Or do something else funky?
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you're asking the right questions. The biggest growth areas in data today are in files and rich media - including photos, videos, etc. We're all creating more and more, but nobody is deleting.
- Louis Gray
It is expensive to store the data and to transfer the data. Networks have gotten larger, disks have gotten larger (and cheaper per GB), but the disk speeds themselves are not increasing, and servers are largely processor-bound, so you see low utilization rates.
- Louis Gray
Louis: yup, and the folks I talked with say that if you want really fast response like what friendfeed has you've gotta pay for expensive SSD devices for your datacenter. I don't know if that's absolutely true, but it sounds reasonable, especially for systems with lots of databases and lots of indexing and lots of reading.
- Robert Scoble
there's a new o/r mapper available to Java programmers that lets them write programs in a typical relational-backend fashion, but behind-the-scenes large files are transparently stored in Amazon S3 cloud storage and the database rows are stored in Amazon SimpleDB.
- Brian Hendrickson
How about adding friendfeed stats here too.. (if somebody knows already!)
- Jigar Mehta
Louis: but I wonder if that data will have worth in the future - mining photos for example for data about your friends, family and holiday destinations.
- Robert O'Callaghan
Robert O: A significant amount of data is infrequently accessed. And as Scoble is saying, you are looking to have SSDs at what's called Tier 0. The best enterprise storage devices have multiple tiers of disk and automatic policy-based data migration between tiers from high performance disk, like SSD and Fibre Channel, to high density SATA.
- Louis Gray
But if you assume data will be there, most people won't mind having some latency on data retrieval for older information, so slower SATA (like in your laptop) is just fine.
- Louis Gray
Maybe it's just me, but speaking with people around the queries issue made me realize these are still big numbers for most average sized companies. You might think that giants like Google, Microsoft or Facebook can easily take care this amount of requests but many other small startups would probably find it difficult to handle.
- Nir Ben Yona
Good point Robert, 200 tweets / s = 6.3 billion rows for one year of tweets. But still surprised this is an issue these days. Anecdotally, even MySQL can support billions of rows.
- Julian
That's an interesting Google datapoint, it explains the aircraft hangers full of servers. The scaling challenge for Twitter however is less related to 200 tweets being posted per second, more about all those Twitter clients hammering their API trying to get them out in real time. Firehoses aside, does anyone know how many API hits Twitter gets per second?
- Bob Hitching
Every incorrect assumption in this post seems to think that 1 tweet on twitter = 1 database row = "So easy!". You've left out the user fanout! One Obama Tweet = 1M database rows, someplace.
- netik
Twitter bought a load of kit a month or so back - at @devnest we were told it was to do with search. People had noticed it had shrunk in size from year dot to only two weeks worth. Anyone know if it expanded back to the beginning or have they closed that door?
- Robert O'Callaghan
Robert O: The data set of Twitter's Search can be as little as 4 days. Do a search on tweets "from Oprah" for example, and you will see none.
- Louis Gray
Performance I doubt is an issue at this level. Remember the hadoop statistics? http://developer.yahoo.net/blogs... processing videos, photos etc is definitely a different ballgame
- Kiran Patchigolla
For comparison, NASDAQ can handle over 35,000 messages per second and processes over a billion messages a day. I suspect they use something like the TIBCO P-7500 to do so. http://www.nasdaq.com/service... http://bit.ly/2TxxI
- Steve Wilhelm
Thank you for all of this Robert, you are such an eternal giver.
- Thomas Power
At a basic level we're talking about storage and distribution. Data is stored somewhere until someone requests it and it's then distributed. In this scenario there are at least two potential bottlenecks or problem areas. There is currently no infinite storage space and there is currently no infinite amount of bandwidth to distribute it. Plus it's a two way distribution network, we're...
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- Gilbert Harding
The best comparison would be Google's web crawler new page discovery rate to Twitter's new status rate. The read rate on Twitter is many orders of magnitude above the write rate-- the comparison of Google QPS to Twitter API calls. Furthermore, the total Twitter user-driven write rate is much larger than the new public statuses rate, which is what the firehose represents. Think of all...
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- John Kalucki
No one in their right mind would use a relational database to store all this data - the biggest issue is that you have SO MANY synchronous writes as well as index and key changes per second. A stream-fed architecture is ideal for this, and 200 inputs a second is easily parseable. TIBCO is an exampleof a very heavyweight version of a streaming service, as Steve Wilhelm mentioned above.
- David Sifry
This uncovers the secret to what may be twitter's eventual financial success and ability to resist being acquired. I'm reminded of the recent techcrunch article proposing that youtube would have been unable to survive as a standalone entity because of the enormous cost of storing all of the video data
- keith kleiner
Louis: They've 'fixed' the from:oprah query, now - two tweets show up, both from the last 24 hours. http://search.twitter.com/search... This of course supports your point.
- Shéa Bennett
Late to the comments but I agree with Louis, 10G per day is trival. The last network collection stream service I helped design was 24 Petabytes per work of text messages comparable to tweets across multiple protocols and transport technologies.
- Ken Camp
I never would have thought that Twitter's high volume times would only create 200 tweets per second.
- Diego Barros
So what you're saying is that Rails really can't scale? ;)
- Diego Barros
Scooplet: the Palm Pre syncs with iTunes - Apple 2.0 - http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009...
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Seamless update to Yoono 6.0... Congratulations to the team, the new UI is definitely cool !
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I enjoy coming home at night and liking things on friendfeed
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I like that, twice.
- Mark Evans
You should be doing that all day long, sir. :)
- Louis Gray
They don't let you do that at work?
- Jesse Stay
I stay up at night and like things on friendfeed
- Wayne Sutton
I like things while I like things...dawg.
- Josh Haley
That's how you discover interesting things, and help the others to discover those things. (ie those who filter entries with n or more "likes")
- Luis Enrique León
I'll Like to that.
- Micah Wittman
It's great to enjoy things, as multiple day workers, I suppose your nights are filled of offbeat sleeping patterns and enjoying laughing a 7 am before crashing. That's FF junkies, plugged in with a special time frame and realm. I associate my visits with night time so it became my way of proceeding. Gives me sense to be in silence, working things off. Managing feeds at an ever greater pace. <0, Even on Friday nights. 8)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
night time is the like time
- Pete Delucchi
fun to like things on friendfeed
- amelia arapoff
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