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If you like, Y Combinator - Startup Library you can download all the articles in a single pdf file. Good for sharing, printing and offline reading. (12 MB)
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thanks ... good collection.
- Ashu Joshi
:)
- Chirag Chamoli
nice to have
- Jorge
nice thanks
- efader
Cool, thanks!
- Jan Paricka
Great stuff, Chirag. Many thanks!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
"My Boss Is Killing Me": Why this just may be true - http://www.delawareemploymentlawblog.com/2008...
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"Workers who were subject to inconsiderate and uncommunicative bosses were about 60% more likely to suffer a heart attack or other life-threatening cardiac condition. Employees who had strong leaders as bosses, on the other hand, were roughly 40% less likely to suffer heart emergencies. "
- Yvette Ferry
Lifehack - want to get away with sending a short email? - Just put "Sent from my iPhone" (or whatever the default signature is on your smart phone) at the end of your email. :)
David Ford, Jessica Lee, Arne Krueger and 5 other people liked this
an excuse to be curt but not feel bad about it :)
- Mike Bracco
And here I thought it was just a snarky way to show people you had an iPhone... Wait!... It still *is*.
- Linda Mills
Linda: totally agree :) I have an iPhone but never used that signature. I think it's kind of corny and lame - When I see someone who uses it I usually don't think that they are trying to show off - It usually means that they are a non-technical user and can't figure out how to change their email signature.
- Mike Bracco
lol. a new tool to show off your iphone even if you don't have one -- although e-mail headers may show otherwise. :)
- Gil Francisco III
I like that my phone appends "sent from my phone" to the end of my emails. It doesn't identify which type of phone I have, but reading between the lines it apologizes for bad autocomplete.
- Miss Elle
Well, I just spent a few minutes seeing if there's a signature on my Bold, but since I've avoided the Enterprise route, it seems not, thank goodness.
- Linda Mills
Linda: "Sent from my Bold" - that sounds kinky...haha - I would like to get an email whose signature reads "Sent from my StarTAC" LOL
- Mike Bracco
Actually, the autocorrect function gives the game away without the signature. I can see them from (or should it be "form" ?) a mile off
- Linda Mills
Work begins on iPhone OS 3.0 jailbreak - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
Numan Çebi, ozgur koca, Praveen Vasudev and 4 other people liked this
imagine the possibilities...
- Shiva
hopefully the jailbreak of 3.0 is a little more stable. The last time I jailbroke on the current version of the OS my phone immediately went all wonky.
- Joshua Schnell
Developer shows working iPhone 3.0 tethering over USB - http://www.appleinsider.com/article...
внезапно!, borghrose, 이나무 and 2 other people liked this
some more info on the tethering in the 3.0 OS
- Joshua Schnell
from Bookmarklet
How FriendFeed uses MySQL to store schema-less data - http://news.ycombinator.com/item...
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"This experience reinforces my belief that it's better to be quick than brilliant... I've come to the same conclusion during the past year and a half of working on Justin.TV. If I was writing a list of pieces of startup advice, this would be #1."
- Bill Moorier
I am in Davos without a TV so am watching the Super Bowl on Twitter. It is not satisfying. Who said text is better than video?
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I'll give you an example. Right now I am listening to a pre-recorded one hour and twenty five minute presentation. I am hoping that the presentation will touch upon a particular topic, and have little interest in the rest of the presentation. Right now the presentation is talking about the Super Bowl. If video were searchable so that I could find out whether my topic of interest is discussed, I could be much more productive. Meanwhile, great game, huh?
- Ontario Emperor
Music over text is even worse.
- Todd Hoff
"Who said text is better than video?" -- good question -- who did?
- Brian Sullivan
Next time, you should try the Slingbox. http://www.slingmedia.com/ I can watch my local soccer games anywhere in the world. :)
- Cem ARGUN
Shakespeare
- Josh Haley
Re my earlier comment - I had an opportunity to comment on the presentation, and I mentioned my specific wish for some way to find content within a presentation. (In my case, the topic of my interest was mentioned once, about 50 minutes into the presentation.) I don't know if chapter capability would help, or some search of an automatically-generated transcript. But search (and cut and paste) are needed for video to really be viable.
- Ontario Emperor
I can't afford TED so I am making my own TED. Today I visited three companies and played with Google Latitude. Tomorrow? :-)
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Actually four companies: Sparkpr, GoGrid, Radar.net, PlayFish.
- Robert Scoble
There's one celebrity and geek at heart that you've never interviewed Robert!
- directeur
Tomorrow I have the morning free, so am trying to find a fun company to interview. Then in the afternoon I fly to NYC for meetings with my bosses at Fast Company.
- Robert Scoble
directeur: you in San Francisco? I'd love to meet up.
- Robert Scoble
I'll give my old company a plug... Head up to mountain view and talk to Intuit about what they do to get ready for and deal with Tax Season.
- Brian Roy
Robert, come on! me a "celebrity"? :) No, I meant YOU! You've never interviewed yourself right?
- directeur
That is a funny thread...Create your own TED with the Scoble
- Lyn Graft
directeur: I don't like answering stupid questions! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I have an idea Robert: Let me make an interview with you. Me interviewing you about Social media, attention profiling, popularity, microformats and such things. Can we make it? :)
- directeur
Could you interview Sam Altman (Loopt) and get his feelings on Google Latitude?
- Justin Dorfman
Is this where we get to bid for who interviews Robert tomorrow? I'll pitch in with a $12 donation to the '12for12k' charity (http://dannybrown.me/2009...)
- WoH: Minding her Steves
TED, meet BIL: http://bilconference.com/ I heard about this conference because Revision3 is covering it.
- David Wilson
Brian: Intuit is a good idea. I'm meeting with Symantec on Monday morning. Directeur: that would be fun! How would we do it?
- Robert Scoble
Robert - if you want a contact let me know... I can DM it to you
- Brian Roy
Robert, I'd really love to do it! Over skype, or IM if you want. We have different opinions on some things and I like debating them with you
- directeur
how long you in nyc for robert? maybe we could meet on friday morning if you have time
- Allen Stern
Brian, even better, I would love to be connected via email. scobleizer@gmail.com
- Robert Scoble
Allen: this time I'm just flying in and out and already have breakfast plans unfortunately. Grrr, maybe next time? I'll be in NY again soon.
- Robert Scoble
directeur: I'm game, but I need to figure out how to record a Skype call.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: All right! I'll try to figure out this too :)
- directeur
@directeur @Scoble If you're on a mac http://www.ecamm.com/mac... . Works really well.
- Zee.
@Zee: Thank you! I'm on a mac :)
- directeur
hey no probs :)
- Zee.
That's funny, I was just about to sit down with some TED videos for the night.
- xero
If you can't afford to go to TED, just announce a Twitter meet up in your home town. That's what I did. Maybe it will evolve into my own little TED conference. D
- MarkCarras
ok thanks anyway - i think my startup would make for a great video on scobleizer.tv
- Allen Stern
Robert - email in flight... connected you with 3 folks @ Intuit that should be able to get you some good insights.
- Brian Roy
Allen: can we do it late in the afternoon, say at 4? Can you come to 7 World Trade Center?
- Robert Scoble
Where's the SWAG?
- paul mooney
Four company visits in one day? Pics or it didn't happen.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Robert, if you are ever near Champaign/Urbana IL, I can arrange for you to interview Jesse Reichler, a PhD student (Artificial Intelligence/Neural Networks) and the founder of a very unusual software company (donationcoder.com) that has been around for almost 4 years and growing fast. They have a very unique business model that I think you and everyone else would find quite intriguing.
- April
Bruce: if you were following my Google Locate you would already have had proof. :-) -- we'll have videos up shortly of two of the companies.
- Robert Scoble
friday at 4pm? and btw i think its 7 world financial center not world trade center
- Allen Stern
That's a lot. You must have developed immunity to jet lag.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Allen: yup, Friday at 4 p.m., but call me first. My meetings might run long. I also need to get to the airport by 5:30, so won't have a big window. Oh, and the address is world trade center. http://www.mansueto.com/contact...
- Robert Scoble
interesting when i worked there it was wfc - i think 4-5:30 will be cutting it very close since you will be traveling in rush hour - let's just meetup next time - hope you enjoy nyc - you missed the snow yesterday - it's gone now :)
- Allen Stern
Robert, you should go to BIL instead: http://bilconference.com/
- Michael R. Bernstein
Michael: I can't afford BIL either. It costs money to travel and rent a hotel. Not to mention I can't always be away from home. I was away for Davos.
- Robert Scoble
I think u could have gotten sponsored if u really wanted to go.I'm guessing affordability was not the primary reason.
- Baba
Baba: not true. Money is not flowing in the streets right now.
- Robert Scoble
You can't afford TED? Put out a donation bin. A micropayment model propagated through Twitter. "Send Scoble to $conference". Each person donates $1-$5. That's how to leverage a massive subscriber count.
- Daniel Miessler
Just out of curiosity, how much does TED actually cost?
- V Mary Abraham
Give the guy a break, he just bought a Mac :)
- JCunwired
Daniel, set up twitter integration on http://tipjoy.com/ and tweet 'pay @scobleizer $5 to go to TED'.
- Bruce Lewis
I really wish you could meet with some israeli-based companies. They sure need you feedback.
- Orli Yakuel
Orit, Robert should go with Jeff Pulver on one of the trips :-)
- Richard A.
Were the BIL & TED cons in LA this week intentional ? If so, where's Keanu, and are the people there having an excellent adventure?
- Enrique Gutierrez
from twhirl
So true.
- Orli Yakuel
I'm looking forward to when the sessions videos are available.
- Richard A.
HAHA! Totally non-heinous, Enrique! *twiddles air guitar*
- WoH: Minding her Steves
LOL @Enrique although I had to come here to understand the joke. Tweet was cut off!
- richie edquid
Seems to me, that if sequestration can be made to work efficiently, we shouldn't take coal off the table anymore than we should take nuclear off the table. Both coal and nuclear have bad images in the public eye, but we should judge according to outcomes, not emotion. Nuclear scares people for example, but most people think nothing of all the radioactive ash and particulates released by coal, an example of emotion trumping reason.
- Ray Cromwell
I am hosting NED, a hyper exclusive conference and you are invited
- Cathleen Rittereiser
Reasons why friendfeed's new search features justify my investment in friendfeed, discuss here:
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I have spent more than 2,000 hours in friendfeed. I have clicked "like" on 15,822 items. I have commented on 8,048 items. That is a HUGE investment in time (I've been blogging a lot less over the past year). These new search features bring HUGE benefits. I will discuss why here.
- Robert Scoble
Clearly the main reason is to find things that you posted/liked in the last.
- David Wilson
First, the new search features are discussed over on friendfeed blog here: http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- Robert Scoble
1. Now you can search based on number of comments an item got. So, I can search for all items that contain the word "Obama," for instance, but I can tell it to only show me items with 10 likes or more. THIS IS HUGE because it shows which items got HUGE engagement. Here is that search: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Wow, I didn't even notice that. Very useful.
- David Wilson
Ability to refine searches for comments is a killer app.
- Mike Nayyar
Hmm, does it actually let you search for a user's name/handle in the comments/content of an item, without giving you a load of "$PERSON liked this" results, even when their name/handle don't appear in the content or any attached comments?
- Tyson Key
How close are we to being able to hide based on the criteria?
- Brian Sullivan
Close... so... close. If we could create that search and have it form a real-time feed... that would do it for me. Historical search with the ability to follow the search in real time.
- Brian Roy
2. Now you can search based on numbers of "likes" an item got. For instance, now I can say show me all items with "netbooks" in the title that have 10 or more likes. This is HUGE because it removes all noise and shows only items that got a lot of interest from the community. Here's that search: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Awesome! Makes Friendfeed less noisy to me. I agree some search fine-tuning would be nice. Still, this helps a lot.
- Pam Baker
2,000 hours jeez they should pay you
- andy brudtkuhl
Brian: yeah, I want real-time views into this data. That is a prerequisite to "track." Also, I need RSS feeds from these searches that I can shove into a room. I can't figure out how to do either of those two things.
- Robert Scoble
I must be a dummy. I can't find how to do that on the site. However, I did read on the blog that it exists. How do I get to it?
- Francine Hardaway
This can really cut down the noise in a search. For example, here's a search for items that mention the Steelers and only contain comments with the word towel. And you could also do the reverse. Cool. http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Tom Landini
Andy: I'm pretty sure it is actually a lot more than 2,000 hours. I'm on friendfeed almost every minute I'm awake and not doing something else.
- Robert Scoble
I didn't see it anywhere... sadly. I'm also looking to see if these advanced searches are supported by the API... if they are it is a boon for applications that swarm to subjects/topics.
- Brian Roy
OK, I'm totally liking the new search features...Now I can finally see who's shouted out to me in posts without getting a lot of "Robert Scoble" noise in the results.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Aah, to answer my own question, the intitle: attribute seems to do the trick, cool.
- Tyson Key
i still dont like "likes", but its an interesting idea to search what you want..
- Terry O'Fee
3. You can search for times a specific person has written something. For instance, I can now see how many times Bret Taylor has written the word "bacon" in one of his titles: http://friendfeed.com/search... By doing this I learned that Bret wrote the word "sex" twice as often as he wrote "bacon." :-) http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Francine - just hit search with nothing in the box... that takes you to advanced search.
- Brian Roy
robert - just don't type "mona" and "bacon" - the search will take days,,,
- Terry O'Fee
The other day I was trying to search for your video on how to use ff. I wanted to share it with someone who is new here. But, I couldn't find it. I had to go to your site to find it. When I saw the title of your post, I realized why my search might have missed it. I don't know if these changes would have made a difference, but any improvement is welcomed in my book! I'm going to try it again and see if the changes help.
- Michael Fidler
You get to the advanced search here: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Terry: Here's a search for "bacon" but from Mona's feed with two or more likes: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
I love it, you can search just specific services, too. Like JUST TWITTER!! Check this out, these are all my tweets that have 20 or more likes: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
very cool thanks for sharing Robert... Also of note you can grab the RSS feed from the search results (via Firefox addr bar only so far) - this is cool for those of you like me who use search subscriptions for research
- andy brudtkuhl
and FF is so well indexed in google. yesterday I talked about backtype in italian and after few hours was already the 5th result searching "backtype" in that language
- ezekiel
Terry: likes are metadata that you can use to improve your searches. Now you can see why people who are noisy on "liking" things are only hurting themselves.
- Robert Scoble
Michael F makes a good point. I struggle with finding stuff I have liked or commented on before. I hope the new search function helps with that.
- Amani
On a search for SEO if this was useful, I would end up with a list of posts similar to the Semmys finalists (though those are still personal preference). However I get http://friendfeed.com/search... which isn't exactly useful unless I wanted every conversation on FF that included the acronym - probably worse results than a potential Scobleizer post about lawnmowers ending up ranking in Google
- Andy Beard
Here's a cool search. It shows you ALL items from EVERYONE that has gotten five likes and two comments (or more): http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Robert: to get an RSS feed, append &format=atom to the end of the url after doing a search
- Daniel Sims
Andy, to search for a term in only the entry title, use "intitle:", e.g. – http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Dan Hsiao
Dan - so that means the API works too... hmmm wonder if that URL is rate limited.
- Brian Roy
frienfeed is the next (social) search engine and these new features are a new big step to the right direction...
- Simone Lovati
robert - ive noticed that the people who get "likes" are usually the ones who mass spam likes to everyone else...
- Terry O'Fee
It worked! I can see what your talking about Robert. You have a lot of content here, but I found the post of yours I was looking for with relative ease:-) http://is.gd/ihXV
- Michael Fidler
Terry: if you use a combination of "likes" and "comments" you can dramatically filter out a lot of noise.
- Robert Scoble
you have a lot more people though, robert....
- Terry O'Fee
My first comment ever on FriendFeed. I cannot figure this place out yet. I'm sure it is wonderful though.
- Hummie
Stick with it Hummie!
- andy brudtkuhl
Once you can create a feed from the search results and make an imaginary friend for that feed then search will become useful for me. Of if you could search on a certain criteria and get the results sent to gtalk in realtime (aka track) will it be useful for me. Right now it is helpful but not of great use for me.
- J Allen
Wow, I have more comments made than you? Wouldn't have guessed that. Yes, it is indeed an investment and this is very good news, Robert.
- Josh Haley
"Also, I need RSS feeds from these searches that I can shove into a room." This would be a huge feature. It would really up the ante in creating useful rooms.
- Doug Hudiburg
To get an RSS feed of any FriendFeed search result, just append "&format=atom" (without the quotes) to the end of the URL. Violå! :-)
- Josh Bancroft
wow ! @Josh Bancroft, youre the man !!! just what i need !! it works !!
- Rocky
@Josh thank you!
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
This is just so cool. FF rocked before, now it's just plain awesome :)
- Nicola Quinn
I thought of you when I read FF blog yesterday: that's what you were asking when we met in Barcelona!
- Jordi Soler
How we use IRC at Last.fm | Richard Jones, Esq. - http://www.reddit.com/r...
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Microsoft Live Search goes Kumo? - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008...
Andrej Kostresevic liked this
Moving the deckchairs around on the Titanic
- Jason Cartwright
Scott McNealy: To have a successful start-up, be careful who you marry - http://news.cnet.com/8301-17...
Andrej Kostresevic liked this
Michael Moore's new movie on BitTorrent. http://www.mininova.org/tor...
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You don't even have to use BitTorrent for this one. You can register for it here: http://slackeruprising.com/#signup.
- Andrew Pass
Slacker Uprising by Michael Moore, Distributed As A Free Download - http://laughingsquid.com/slacker...
Andrej Kostresevic, Louis Gray, Jason Stajich and 2 other people liked this
Apple And Google's Awkward Mobile Marriage (AAPL, GOOG) - Silicon Alley Insider - http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008...
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I never got an iphone, but I am definitely getting an android phone
- Mike
I think why I don't get sensory overload in Friendfeed is because I'm selfish. See, unless I'm bored (on Twitter) I live only on the replies tab. Same thing applies here. I will post shit and then let the ME tab reload. That raises questions about the self-centeredness of social media.
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Some may think the world revolves around us.
- Eric Rice
Eric, I'd read this but you aren't talking about me so I hid it.
- Robert Scoble
This is apparent with 'rooms'... people are inviting inviting inviting come to my room room room join join join. Who is the cause of the noise? We are! We think our content is the most important ever. So as a consumer, I have to join join join to you you you. And then bitch about it. Heh. So the key is be selfish, and noise goes away (except your own!) Wheeeee!
- Eric Rice
In an odd way, it's less like the world revolves around any single person and more like the gravity of space as well as the atomic world...that everything revolves around something that revolves around something else. Tonight must be analogy night.
- Jacob Nahin
Truthfully tho, I think that people's patterns in a) dating and b) general conversation reflects how they use the free web service du jour. If you are the type to monopolize conversation in real life, don'tcha think that's how you'd use a tool like Twitter or whatnot? Seriously. Contrast and compare. Homework is due on Thursday. <3
- Eric Rice
Noise? Did you say noise? Your noise is actually pretty fun to swim in. UPDATE: I don't want to monopolize the conversation, just participate in it.
- Robert Scoble
Also: Scoble.
- Eric Rice
@Robert Scoble This noise is keepin me up. G'night all!
- Jacob Nahin
I'm much more interested in the "friends" tab than the "me" tab.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Yeah but the difference is, I'm not. I think far more people are egomaniacs regardless of numbers, which if you run, btw, I have little. I'm interested in others, just not whent he platform is a stage. There is no godlike here at all. Once we stop doing that to each other, we'll make progress.
- Eric Rice
agree with Jason. I'm far more interested in the "friends" tab. I do check back in with the "me" tab sometimes, but usually only if I've been off of FF for a few hours or more to catch up and participate in those conversations. I spend 95% of my time in FF looking at the "Friends" tab. This tab is also now my homepage for my browser.
- Thomas Hawk
I disagree. I think the egomaniacs are in the minority.
- Jason Wehmhoener
i refuse to feed your "you" focus by replying to this message... oh crap.
- tracy apps
from twhirl
I don't think I've looked at the ME tab, I read stuff in Friends and occassionally Everyone if looking for something specific
- Sally Church
from Alert Thingy
egomaniacs are american ;)
- Eric Rice
That must explain why I'm fond of Canadians and Euros. :-D
- Jason Wehmhoener
God, Canadians are so damn nice it pisses me off sometimes. ;)
- Eric Rice
Haha, I liked that.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
The fbOpen Initiative: Facebook Confirms Plans to Open-Source Its Platform - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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Scoble has a productivity problem - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
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I'd love to know how you think I should answer Bob Bly's letter in this post.
- Robert Scoble
i don't get this discussion. Scoble does all the stuff he does cause it's his job. It's like asking a dude who reviews books if all that book reading is a time waster.
- Stan Schroeder
from twhirl
Stan: I was doing it long before it was my job. I've been playing with new things ever since I helped unbox an Apple II in my Jr. High in 1977.
- Robert Scoble
we are doing all of these stuff because we like to do.
- ahmet bulent
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- Stan Schroeder
from twhirl
damn twhirl. Anyway, @Scoble: then it was your hobby. Same thing. A guy who's not interested in all this stuff should simply pick and choose what he likes and forget about the rest
- Stan Schroeder
from twhirl
Totally agree to the meaning of goals and motivation. That's why people are different and everyone is unique.
- Carsten R
from Alert Thingy
Stan: I think it goes deeper than that. People who aren't looking to learn new things bug me for some reason. It's like they are celebrating their ignorance and their willingness to stay ignorant. I had a father-in-law who loved telling me he never touched a computer and never would. I found that fascinating.
- Robert Scoble
Its not his (scobles) job unless he wants it to be his job. I think in Bobs case he might be unproductive if he was engaging in all those activities that Scoble spends his time on. It all depends on what you want to get out of your day/life? It all depends on who you are and what you do. I thin what bob is asking might apply to him or people who are not directly ingrained in creating technology.
- Akshay Dodeja
I'll give you a simple analogy. Let's imagine that you're a car fanatic. You tweak your car every day, and it goes faster. You get to work at least 10 minutes faster each day, however, all the tweaking you do takes many hours of your time. A regular guy just sits in his car and drives, and goes to the mechanic when something goes wrong. Who's right and who's wrong here? No one, I say.
- Stan Schroeder
from twhirl
I've been answering this question a lot lately. Why is twitter better than my message board? Why not just use email? Who has time for that stuff? In my opinion, the fact that they are asking is just another sign that it is becoming more accepted. When my 85 year old grandmother knows what Facebook is, and why my 65 year old mom living in BFE knows what MySpace is, that is the definition of mainstream.
- Robert Peterson
Btw, the nickname i sometimes use, "frantic" comes from my frantic desire to learn everything there is to know about a topic (i get this 2 times per week at least). So I get where you're coming from. But, not everyone is like that.
- Stan Schroeder
from twhirl
Stan: I understand that, but that's not what I'm talking about. I drive a car and don't care about tinkering with it, taking it apart, and all that, but I'm not going to celebrate my ignorance of it. If someone says "hey, here's a way to get more enjoyment out of your car" I'll at least listen and see if it interests me. Even if it doesn't, I'm not going to celebrate the fact that I'm ignorant. Like "I'll never see why we need Hybrid cars, my Hummer works just fine."
- Robert Scoble
Good analogy, Stan. Although if you are tweaking your car, most likely you enjoy doing that. Even though you are loosing "productivity time" while tweaking you are expanding your knowledge. That knowledge has a worth to you as a car tweaker and would be worth nothing to another person. As you said tho no one is right or wrong. Just depends on how you look at it :)
- Akshay Dodeja
@Scoble: Well, some people just go through life without knowing anything about anything. Don't think you can change that, either (;.
- Stan Schroeder
from twhirl
This is very normal for those who did not discover the potential of social networks, or whether the same technology. I live here and in Latin America is very common that everyone do the same question as Bob, but you have to have a lot of patience to explain the possibilities that the experience provides. The examples you gave were very good to try to explain to Bob and the list can continue.
- Cesar Sanchez
Stan: a more accurate analogy is I come over with my new car that has GPS and a navigation system and you run on and on about how you'll never own a car with a GPS or a navigation system. I just don't like hanging around people like that. I guess we have Amish who still drive around in horse and carriage for a reason, though, but I won't choose to hang around with them, sorry if that makes me a jerk. I just don't like people who celebrate remaining in the past.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble: those same people who run on and on about not trying new things will buy those same things when they read it in the newspapers. Capitalism: replacing innovative thinking since 19th century.
- Stan Schroeder
from twhirl
I don't think I can improve on the original post (at all) but I follow these things to pursue my ambitions. It's that simple. And my ambitions (video game design) require that I stay current with the times. I just happen to have a blast doing it. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to find out what Flickr is.
- Avery Tingle
Bob is sadly very typical in my limited experience. It's like some people are proud of being and remaining ignorant. They have no curiousity and are stuck in their old ways. I'm a scientist; I love finding new things and simply cannot fathom why other people aren't equally fascinated.
- Sally Church
Robert, i think you are being untypically nasty to good old BOB BLY. by the end of your long blog post you might of well called him a beer drinking TV watching ignorant slob. he says: -------"Can you help an old guy from the old school understand what he’s missing? - P.S. Your column is well written and there are obviously a legion of people who get all this stuff. I’d like to see if I could become one of them or at least understand what all the fuss is about."------- i don't think you answered him...
- djp
Your post says it all. Thanks. My experience as someone coming from the non-tech world is that I need to defend the amount of time I spend in social networking on a daily basis. As an artist, I see this is THE new medium, not sure how it will manifest new work but very sure this is it. And that excites me and keeps me listening, talking when I think I have something to contribute, but present most days. Some of my friends don't get it and most don't participate. Oh well. More will be revealed. ;-)
- Mary Anne Davis
djp72: fair enough. So, put yourself into my shoes. How would you answer it?
- Robert Scoble
i think you took it too personally when BOB BLY says "I don’t have any of it — for that matter, I don’t own a Blackberry, iPod, wireless laptop, or even a cell phone — and I get along fine without them."------- your rant doesn't actually prove your point, if i put myself in Bob's beer stained shoes for a second, i'm sure he's sitting there going "i was right.... this is all about nothing...."
- djp
djp72: again. One more time. Answer the damn question then. How would you answer it? Stop attacking me and answer the question!
- Robert Scoble
one last point Robert, imagine if Bob was your uncle, or old high school mate, or someone you knew, i'm sure you wouldn't end up being all sarcastic and calling him ignorant. i'm sure you'd take your time and explain and answer his questions... sorry for the long comment out of the blue, it just struck me as a tad sooky.....
- djp
djp72: again with the attack. Actually, when people get all Luddite on me I usually just walk away because I've learned long ago that you'll never convince someone to join you by fighting with them. They usually come around and if they don't, well, there's that photo on my blog to remind you what happens eventually. I really wish you'd answer the question yourself.
- Robert Scoble
Mary Ann: Well said, that sums up my experience with my biotech peers too - they just don't get it and I spend a lot of time explaining it to them, to little avail. You have to wait for them to get it and the penny to drop.
- Sally Church
The letter was a bit weird coming from a guy who has as a url www.bly.com. A 3 letter .com url? sounds as though he is extremely wealthy or way ahead of the game to me!
- Geoff
Mr. Bob points are perfectly valid, but the question is if Robert is the right person he should address them to. ;-)
- Peter
It's not all about quantifiably productive experiences for everyone, in fact personal progress seems to come when people just do their thing, find their groove..... and if Bob prefers to find his groove without engaging with the Twitters and Flickrs of the world then I say - good luck, enjoy your free time (probably alot of it spent waiting for the post)....if on the otherhand like me...
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- Mia Walczak
Scoble, you write a blog that is read by thousands. You answered your own question! How would WE respond to Bob? HA! That is the very thing: that you can engage hundreds into a conversation about this topic. The idea that anyone has access to this discussion is revolutionary. If you wrote out your blog posts and sent it by mail... where would be the fun in that? Who would be able to read it? Who would be able to comment?
- Alana Taylor
You get excited about the internet because you understand it's potential for COMMUNICATION. Phones, cameras, pictures, blogs, micro-blogs... these are all means for bringing people together. The World Wide Talk Show is what I recall you telling me. A man who doesn't use these tools must not be very interested in communication at all. The irony lies in the fact that he used the internet to ask you why the internet is special. I think he also answered HIS own question: COMMUNICATION.
- Alana Taylor
Really good post Robert, and really interesting question originally from Bob. I get excited about the things that I write about because through some of them, we see glimpses of the future - and, it's fair to say, in some of them I see glimpses of future failures too. The thing is that without playing with this stuff, it's much harder to understand its implications.
- Ian Betteridge
Geoff - Maybe Bob is ahead of the game. Maybe this was his tactic to get his name out and to be talked about. ;) heh.
- Alana Taylor
Robert Scoble is a scout and explorer and he likes telling people what he finds. You need that kind of person in order to introduct and create change. Some people have a natural inclination to do that.
- Mark Dykeman
I think you missed Bob's point here, Robert. He's not attacking your choices, but rather wanting to find out what could be in it for him. The alternative to not engaging in all the social stuff does not have to be getting a beer in front of the TV, it could just as well be writing a book. When I read the question I immediately thought of Don Knuth who is rarely (if ever) online, yet manages to write books and software that will have a long lasting impact.
- Niklas Morberg
Niklas: no, sorry, you aren't a very careful reader. When someone says "It seems to me that all these things — Twitter, Facebook, iPhone, Flickr — are a thundering bore and an utter waste of time" that does NOT mean that the writer is wanting to find out what could be in it for him. It means he's already considered whether or not these things could be useful for him and has decided no. And, further, he's decided to denigrate those people who chose to use their time that way.
- Robert Scoble
Robert Pirsig wrote a book about this wormhole called "Zen in the Art of Motorcycle Maintainence"... changed my life
- Peter
A little historical context here: In late 2004 Bob Bly famously wrote a newsletter dissing the potential of blogging as a marketing & communications tool, mocking it, some would say. Great link bait and blog fodder. He then, surprise surprise, started a blog himself. Talk about built-in attention & controversy. Funny thing, he maintains that blog pretty actively to this day. I'd say he's planning to get on Facebook, Twitter etc. in about 2 weeks & just wants to make sure people are paying attention ;)
- Elisa Camahort Page
Scoble: Did you know the Amish are way ahead-of-the-loop on solar panels. Almost every Amish house has a solar panel. It helps that they are frugal with power.
- Mitchell Tsai
Geez, Robert, what a long winded way to answer a simple question! :-) The short answer is, "It's simply human to want to 1) know more, and 2) be known more." AWARENESS is the key. Without it, there would be no UNDERSTANDING. First comes self-awareness, which is what makes us human. Then comes awareness of others, which is what the web and social software enable in a very efficient way...
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- Lawrence Liu
I'd say: "Bob, 5 billion years have working to make this neat little box. Wanna peak inside?"
- phil baumann
Thanks for the great article. Already added the MarsPhoenix Twitter feed and other related RSS feeds.
- Bill Bittner
Not everyone wants to keep in touch with the latest technology. Some folks just want to sit on a stoop and watch traffic. I don't understand that but I respect their choice.
- Morton Fox
I posted my comment to your blog, but here's a snippet: It all boils down to this: We must *master* our productivity tools (technology included) in order to maximize production of our quality work in a time manner. So how do you use technology to accomplish this? Are you an advanced user that has figured out how to organize, sort, filter and glean the best data from all your tools? The person who is best capable of using each tool with mastery, will achieve the highest productivity ratio.
- Susan Beebe
Great post Robert whether Bly is real or not - people often miss that this is NOT about technology but about connections and learning and PEOPLE. Alas, the problem today for folks like you and I who just freakin love learning new stufff is that well -we have SO many opportunities from so many people thanks to the tech! Well said Lawrence!!
- deb schultz
http://bly.com/blog/?p=333 that's the link to Bob's blog post about this very letter he sent you Robert.
- James Dasher
Great post Scoble...keep going after the interesting conversations!
- Mack D. Male
I *just* had a chance to read the actual article. I don't know Bly, but I couldn't disagree with him more. Your response was dead on. I think Bly has missed the point that these are just tools. I also think his response is like writing in to Car & Driver and telling them they have too many articles about automobiles.
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
Defining a choice not to use (or more properly) _venerate_ networking tools as "ignorant" is part of the problem. You assume that everything happening in the world is happening in these environments. It is not. And if you really are sitting on a couch watching TV when you're not on Twitter, you ARE missing out. When I was off Twitter yesterday, I was eating ice cream with 5-year-old nieces reading them a story. and being wrestled to the ground by them. I hope your son can look forward to such memories.
- Shelly Brisbin
It's the same old story over and over again. Some will fight against new technology (tools), kicking and screaming all the way. Others will adopt and improve. At some point the tools that make it will have been subsumed into mainstream and we'll laugh about the early resistance. Telephone, yes, and railroad... come to mind. Is social networkiing here to stay? Who knows? But why condemn it without trying it out?
- Alex von Halem
Two things that have really stuck with me from this article over the past couple of days: "Whenever I am faced with a productivity problem I ask myself “what do I want to get out of life?”" which is damned good advice. It might seem selfish but I now think that you can't ask yourself this enough. Too many people go through life doing things they don't want to do just because they ask themselves the wrong questions. Start asking this one.
- william douglas watson
The second thing which I find infinitely for powerful than the first: "The real thing I’ve been doing for more than eight years now is to try to arrange my life so that I have an interesting conversation every day with someone interesting." What an awesome life you have made Scoble. The fact that you have come to a point in your life that this is a feasible goal is just awesome. Wow. Thanks for the inspiration.
- william douglas watson
I think my answer to Bob Bly would be this: 'I was a copywriter. Then, while following Robert Scoble's Microsoft blog, I found out about tablet pcs. And have since become a visual facilitator, earning approximately twenty times more per gig than I ever did as a copywriter. Social media is the most powerful learning tool I've ever dealt with.' (Thanks for turning me onto tablet pcs, Robert.)
- Roy Blumenthal
To me it seems that Bob Bly just wants to hold on to the wistful memory of how things were...freeze time, so to speak. And no matter what you tell him and how you do it, it's not going to make an iota of a difference. What for him is waste of time, is for you a dive into worlds unknown. What for you is old school and ignorance, is for him blissful existence in a world as tangible as the cup of coffee (or tea) he holds. And never the twain shall meet.
- Mansi Bhatia
Great discussion. I started to comment, but it got too long, so it wound up here: http://philcrissman.com/2008...
- Phil Crissman
I'm writing a blog about how I have a productivity problem.
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The Internet FAQ from 2085 - http://blogoscoped.com/archive...
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Hilarious. I'm missing reference to some humans going by the name of Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, Steve Jobs or Robert Scoble though.
- Thomas Frütel
"You can find representative entities of the human species in most local zoos. Visitors of model version 4.55 and lower receive special discounts; while the brain of humans is likely incapable of experiencing pain, please do not feed or break them."
- Paul Buchheit
Thomas, "names" became irrelevant when the Universal Intelligence deployed IPv42 in 2035. However, there is an archival reference to a "Patrick" Scoble, one of the leaders of the Human Resistance Movement, with a footnote mentioning his father Robert.
- Karim
"Other inhabitants of the planet such as Bonobo Apes or the Arrowtooth Eel are believed to have had higher brain capacities, but no intent to build the internet."
- Emily Miller
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Does anyone at Google still work on Google Groups? We'd like per-author RSS/Atom feeds.
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Was that one of those features that was always on your list of things you meant to get around to implementing?
- j1m
No, I worked on groups before RSS was cool. Also, groups has been rewritten 2 or 3 times since then.
- Paul Buchheit
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This pretty much matches my Linux experiences. I just now noticed that our one machine doesn't have to real vim on it, so I try to install and next thing I know it's installing libavahi and other random junk, and then it fails and I still don't have vim...
- Paul Buchheit
I had no problems with sound on my kubuntu box at home. I did have problems with the machine I built myself, but those were hardware problems. Linux is still not as user-friendly as Windows or Mac, but it is getting there. There are certainly plenty of things to complain about on Macs and Windows as well.
- Robert Felty
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