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It seems the notifications are pretty much instantaneous now. You'd rather have a digest of some sort? - Ken Sheppardson from email

Yes please! The option would be good. I'm setting up a room for a scientific colleagues who may be new to FF/aggregators, and who want an email digest to alert them to new activity. Just the option of daily or weekly would be perfect. - Matthew Todd

Very powerful. Nice to be able to customize notifications on FriendFeed. - Mike Reynolds

hmm, i think it is possible to make a digest of sorts by feeding out to yahoo pipes(setting it to update occasionally) & feeding that back in - immaterial

@immaterial Sorry for digressing but I don't think you can set yahoo pipes to any particular update frequency (which is problem in its own actually). - lelapin

I'm using searches saved as RSS feeds into Google Reader to capture info. - Glen Group

OK, but I'm looking for something with a lower barrier to entry - email digests provided that for people new to FF, and indeed new to social/aggregator sites generally. PLEASE can we have it back - just a little drop-down menu like we had before, allowing for daily/weekly digests by email. - Matthew Todd

take the RSS from the room and feed it through Feeddburner (or any RSS to email service that alos has a once a day digest option) - suelibrarian

Anything involving RSS is too much. LOW barrier to entry for REGULAR PEOPLE. - Matthew Todd

God, the email notification is sending me a separate mail for every little thing that happens. Are you kidding me? Why would I want that, ever? Digest. Summary. Please. - Matthew Todd

What's "God" has to do with it? (he don't exist for starters). Yeah, "piecemealmail" notification sucks, FF needs to get it fixed and digestified. Observe FF is running on Cuppertino time while readers live in real world timezones - so they'd also need to generate digests at cut-of times that are of significance to each subscriber, not to their own robot. - ianf ⌘

Well, sure, but periodic updates would be a start. I hasten to add I'm speaking from the point of view of getting people involved who are not normally into social networking/web 2 sites like FF. People who are not likely to check the FF site often without an email reminder that there's stuff to look at. - Matthew Todd

Involving unmotivated people in FF is exacerbated by the fact that it is difficult to explain what makes it the Next Great Thing - it's not email per se (although it is); not chat (oh, yes!); not BBS (guilty), or a blog platform (beg to differ) - but all of those things in an unobtrusive and low-threshold wrapper. But that's a mouthful. - ianf ⌘

+100 ianf. - vijay

Totally agree. I'm trying to replace a scientific email list with a room on FF. It's perfect for this function - posts that include discussions. But the jump from email lists to FF is large, and take-up will be poor without some bridging apps. - Matthew Todd

Matthew, I haven't started yet, but am thinking of the same, how to entice a whole bunch of chatty people who barely mastered email (10+ years of usage), and so will be reluctant to abandon what they now have on Yahoogroups, for this.... er... whatisit? My Master Plan™ is to do it by stealth... create a group, populate it to some extent with bookmark(l)ed topical content, then invite... more... - ianf ⌘

Trying the same approach. I asked colleagues for their opinions, and they immediately requested email digests. Pleasingly this was a feature in FF, then overnight it disappeared in FF beta. The migration experiment may still work, but I could really use that digest functionality to help out. It's such a simple feature! - Matthew Todd

I'm sure FFeeders are aware of it, only haven't yet figured out how to do it in scalable manner. But it will come. Still, richtext digests can be counterproductive, too; they tend to be long, and not as readable in email clients (FFs wasn't at all) as the originals on the web. - ianf ⌘

One bug in the desktop notifier of which you should be aware: if you open the settings dialog on the desktop app & then click "save," the checkboxes in the web version settings will revert to default (even if you didn't change anything in the desktop settings.) - Mark Traphagen

Thanks for sharing Ken : ) - Mark Harai

So how does this feedback room work - do FF developers read this room? Any feedback to us as to whether our suggestions are being worked on/laughed at? - Matthew Todd

Now and then they might chime in, but in general they sorta let us fight it out amongst ourselves while they stand behind that one way mirror over there on the wall. - Ken Sheppardson

Maybe if we start busting up the place, they might come in? - Matthew Todd

I'm really tempted to make some sort of joke about the big-headed, telepathic Talosians observing Captain Pike and Vina the ST:TOS "The Menagerie"/"The Cage", but I'm totally not that big a nerd. - Ken Sheppardson

Blegh. Definitely don't care whether someone is an authority on twitter. I just want to communicate with people. - Jon, the Chilled Beartato

+1 Sean!! LOL bingo! - Susan Beebe

What's the metric? I'm not seeing anything on how it figures out who's more authoritative than others, so I don't trust it. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

didn't quite work on the few tests I did - anna sauce

Exactly, Chris. I need the details of exactly how it works or it's dead to me. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

@chris it pulls from the top 10,000 twitter users, if you look under their name you'll see their rank (lowest being best) along with their follow total - sean percival

so stupid. sorry i like sean but this is stupid. - Allen Stern

Allen: I give up. These lame ideas will now play out. Smarter live web filtering is coming. But these other systems will take more than 48 hours to produce. - Robert Scoble

you give up? on what? *confused* - Allen Stern

Allen: on fighting the idea that # of followers is a lame way to filter anything. - Robert Scoble

Totally broken. I went to search for "psychiatry" and couldn't find anything at all from Tom Cruise. - Ken Sheppardson

The last time somebody made a successful business model out of "we find the interesting / important stuff, box it up & send it to you, so you don't have to hunt all of it down yourself", it was called Reader's Digest. - Pat Rice

Abolutely True Robert..One success can wipe all the failures..provided it's value is appreciated by enough...cannot filter mind and spirit with numbers, nor the sense of community building...filtering by number limits is not just exclusionary but sounds like self imposed elitism..(mindset that is) - bcultral

You know, this is all *exactly* like all the blog-ranking sites that used blogroll links. *Exactly* like. Down to the shitstorm-in-a-teacup. Even the 'why did you not follow me back' crap is exactly the same. Therefore I predict that these sites will prove to be of similar value as well. IOW useless. - Michael R. Bernstein

It is not authority no matter how many times you call it that Sean. Coin a new word if you must but don't harm the space with your meme based PR based on a misrepresentation and misuse of language. Get the damned semantics right, - David HC Soul

heh some good comments here, allen as always appreciate your honestly. robert we are also building those technologies as well. i don't think this method is the end all to be all, its simply an experiment, thats how we figure things out. twitter spin offs are disposable at best, but the experience of this tinkering helps us build better products. - sean percival

omg - that's hysterical!!! - shaun mclane

Arr that we did! Err - Mo Kargas

'tis scurvy pirate's day. If ye think ye can do better why don't ye poset yer own, slippy - Mona Nomura

This is wrong. - Thomas Frütel

OMG... awful! :*) - Susan Beebe

well, i warned Princess Fiona, but all i got was "I know him better than you". Gave up. - Steven Livingstone-Pérez from twhirl

LMAO. Well that's probably fake knocked up wasn't in the same timeframe. - Parth Awasthi

That is freaking awesome. I always wondered who was responsible. Now I know. - Robert Gonzalez

or it could be a re-run theatre. we have a lot of them here and they'll show 3 movies spannng 3 decades. - Admiral Anika

I were just a-yanking yer peg-leg, Mona. - Slappy Line

Parth - they are when you put a "3" each after pirates and shrek. - Slappy Line

So which fracking one of you Pirates knocked up Shrek? (I'm talking like I am from Battle Star Galactic, so thats why I used the word Fracked.) - Colide81 (James)

lol, James - Slappy Line

;D) - Colide81 (James)

That be an amusing photo there, arr. - Voyagerfan5761

lol +1 Zee - Jay

i DARE someone to propose with these... - Zee.

...you complete me... - JA Castillo

...let's interface... - JA Castillo

WANT - mjc

hahaha let's interface - classic. - Zee.

What are those? - Mona Nomura

Cute as a gag, but I think it's too bulky for practical use. - Mattie Kenny

put your RJ45 in my coupler - mjc

Mona, rings that look like ethernet connector/port unless i've very much mistaken - Zee.

"let's get connected".. - Zee.

ok, but who gets which ring? - WorldofHiglet

WorldofHiglet: simple Freudian symbolism should sort that one out easily enough... - Alexander Carlill

In theory, yes, but in today's metrosexual world - who knows? - WorldofHiglet

But the woman's ring is really the wrong color.. needs to look more like a diamond for my taste.. :( - Lorraine Ball

ROFL WoH - mjc

Awesome WoH :) - Zee.

Where are these online? ;) - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕

http://www.etsy.com/view_li... - Zee.

...till disconnect do us part - Hao Chen

what about USB rings? - anna sauce

+1 Hao - Zee.

Hmm, I see collision detection issues :) - jcunwired

My wife just looked at me and shook her head disapprovingly. I think she prefers her shiny rocks. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

i'm thinking divorce or at the least trial separation Mark - Zee.

haha... if they come out with one of these that studded with diamonds, we might have a ball game. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

WoH: Touché. - Alexander Carlill

anna: USB rings...and they would be for....? - WorldofHiglet

What if the little tab breaks off... like my ethernet plugs always do... Loraina Bobbitt time (sp?) - anna sauce

I want one! Just signed up for email notification. - Joey Lo

Intrigued. - Andy Roth

This is one of the most promising startups I've seen recently. - Alexander Carlill

very cool - will give us nerds sleepless nights! ;) - Dieter Schwarz

I like it! I'd want a Fitbit widget <g> to show graphs in my blog's sidebar. - Brent Logan

cool - Maryam Ardakani

Definitely buying this. - Alexander Carlill

All depends on the effective accuracy of pedometer and polysomnograph-like measurements. People overestimate their exercise and underestimate their caloric intake when asked to journal. One day, I hope, the devices and services will be accurate and unobtrusive enough to show us what we're really doing to our bodies. - Kawika Holbrook

I weigh myself every night and I'll notice if I have bags under my eyes in the morning. Not sure I am willing to drop $99 to REVOLUTIONIZE PERSONAL BIOANALYTICS just yet. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Seems cool. But how does it tell when you're sleeping? - Kevin Pedraja

I dont want to be consciouss that much... not ready ... its like having a sport coach and diet doctor as inner voice... creepy - Alemsah Ozturk

@Kevin, more importantly, and where do you put it while you're sleeping ;) - Marko Bon

similar product http://www.fitbug.com - Turkey banned Bloggum :(

Watched the presentation on UStream - this is revolutionary - monitors your sleep, exercise and diet? Brilliant!!! - Robyn Hawk

Does this take into account speed, weight, incline, intensity and so forth? - Mo Kargas

more similar products, http://www.walkingspree.com (web 2.0 and uses an accelerometer like fitbit with focus on corporate wellness - disclosure - I'm with this company), https://www.virginhealthmiles.com (corporate wellness)/, http://www.walkstyles.com (also has web 2.0 features) - Lisa R

I saw this at TC50, and I was extraordinarily impressed. Definitely worth being on the pre-order list. - Steve Spalding

Has anyone actually seen this in action? I'm going to buy it, but I'd like to know how much it lives up to promises made. - Alexander Carlill

sleeping with all those waves...are u sure it's healthy? - David Sadigh

Matt: It comes with a wrist strap. - Alexander Carlill

Anyone know what kind of reporting you get? Analytics? - Tim FitzGerald

hmmm 60%...bad ! - Olivier

50% - Shey, Jamaican of FF

60% - RAPatton

67% - Iain Baker

70% - Toby takes the lead...get in - Toby Graham

what do I win? - Toby Graham

Fantastic - Pedram

There needs to be a new commandment. 11. If you post pictures of amazing beaches, you *must* tell people the name and location of the beach. - Yolanda

Yolanda. :-)))) I'll try to track these pictures in TinEye in the next few days... - Mitchell Tsai

Very nice. I'm gonna put these on my workstation at work to think happy thoughts while fixing other people's buggy code. - imabonehead

These pics are great! - Admiral70

Two. - Robert Scoble

but design still sucks surely...? - Zee.

design of what? They have 18 services. The design is much nicer than I remember it being. - Robert Scoble

I just remember trying a few of their apps a while back & running back to google because their UI's were far worse. Essentially early Windows in terms of styling - Zee.

may just have a look again however if you recommend it so highly - Zee.

I don't know...what about Google Docs? Which is better? - Nate Pilling from twhirl

I know the MS .doc importing has been more accurate in Zoho then Google Docs. Great with "Open IT Online" firefox addon. - seanb from twhirl

Unfortunately, Engadget is calling fake, so I don't know who to believe anymore! http://www.engadget.com/2008... - Brooks Bishop

The ultimate joke would be if this is 100% real except for the photo of Carlos Rodriquez. :) - Mike Reynolds

would love to shoot Salt Lake City. I'd love to do a photowalk in every major city in the US. - Thomas Hawk

How about Rochester NY? The Lilac Festival is a great time of the year to visit. - Benjamin Golub from fftogo

I'm moving to the Twin Cities area in July. If you get up that way any time, let me know. - Dawn M. Armfield

I am from Salt Lake City as well. Would love to participate if you make it out here. - LiquidLag

2nd vote for Rochester, NY!! Ben, Cyndy, Jen, Aaron, SteelOpus, et al can all meet you for lunch or dinner someday and do a photo walk!! - Susan Beebe

Wow, Thomas you are able to travel to the future! (JULY 11th! :)) - Michael Lehman

I wish I could make the trip up i-5 but i'll be going to the Police and Elvis Costello show that night. - Squid

Sounds great, we would love to have you in SLC. Your original photowalking videos with Scoble really inspired me to take more photos and keep my camera around. Cheers! - Jordan

Another vote for SLC here - Kevin D. White

I'm thinking about setting up a photowalk in Evansville, IN. Any suggestions? Never been to an organized one. The family and I did a couple on our own last year and it was fun. - jason burton

Awesome article. Discussions - J Phil (30 comments, 48 likes) http://friendfeed.com/e... Google Reader (3, 3) http://friendfeed.com/e... Digg (3,4) http://friendfeed.com/e... Disqus (2,1) http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mitchell Tsai

My extended comment on "Search tip: How to use 'who:everyone' and 'num=100' to find fragmented conversations" (11 comments, 14 likes) http://friendfeed.com/e... Rex Hammock (2,1) http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mitchell Tsai

I love these little 'research compilation' posts, especially when they involve an article that I wrote! - Phil G

J Phil: Your article may end up being one of the best of this month... Unfortunately I should have started this much earlier. I wasn't anticipating FriendFeed search being down for so long... I saw a lot of stuff which I can't find anymore. - Mitchell Tsai

Steve Rubel (4 comments, 24 likes) http://friendfeed.com/e... Corvida (6 likes) http://friendfeed.com/e... Sarah Perez (3 likes) http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mitchell Tsai

Wow, that's really strange. - Eric Florenzano

Quite an interesting article. Although he is a Paranoid Engineer. - LiquidLag

Really cool post! Good insights. - Hutch Carpenter

Thanks Hutch. I was going for 'edgy' but I don't think I quite got there. - Phil G

the comparison to chat is spot on. I think this (in part) explains FF's addictive nature. trouble is, it's really not a good chat system. I can usually rely on there being some good links and side conversations whenever I open up FF, but the 'conversations' are fractured if more than one person shares, tweets, bookmarks the same item. so i guess you (I?) just have to be ok with the discussion not being comprehensive. - bernie

That's a good observation, bernie. I think that, in part, is what rooms were designed to address. - Phil G

Bernie: When you find an interesting conversation. Search the "title" with "who:everyone", and (1) you can see the other parts of the fractured conversation (2) you can find the more interesting discussions. Try http://friendfeed.com/search... It won't work for this article until FriendFeed's search index catches up, but try this later http://friendfeed.com/search... - Mitchell Tsai

Mitchell thanks for the tip! I'll give that a try. - bernie

Once again, I want to "like" a comment, and I can't. Good tip, Mitchell. You should blog that some time, so I can point people at it if I see them complaining. Or at least, make a new FF entry so it has a permalink ;) - Phil G

@Mitchell and Bernie: also you will love tagging idea. http://friendfeed.com/search...; look http://friendfeed.com/rooms... - Erhan Erdogan

Bummer... :-( FriendFeed search index is slow today. Still can't search for this post of yours J Phil...even after 15 hours (Thu 6/5/08 7:23 am PDT)...finally works 20 hrs later 12:59 pm PDT. The comment you liked is permalinked at http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mitchell Tsai

YOU ROCK, Phil! Just subscribed to all of those recommended people. Thanks as always :) - Kenichi Matsumoto

I bookmarked it in Diigo, thanks Mitchell! And you are welcome, Kenichi! - Phil G

J Phil: The Persians seem to comment/like waaayyy more than the US bloggers. http://friendfeed.com/mhmazidi has 7,017 comments/likes. http://friendfeed.com/maryam5... has 6,946 comments/likes. Both are going up ~200-300/day. They were at 6,000-6,500 when I first ran into them this past weekend. - Mitchell Tsai

Nice photo :P - Benjamin Golub

Crazy! And they are all Persian discussions, for the most part. It appears that they really took to this environment really well. I bet it's a number of small things -- need for a centralized community, cost, and support for a unicode or international character set. - Phil G

Benjamin -- Nice shirt! I found a picture of your fiancee in a FF shirt, too, but I was going to get permission before I put her in an article. LOL - Phil G

J Phil: They are running a Persian news organization using FriendFeed and Twitter. See http://friendfeed.com/e... Selma: "I have almost completely given up on twitter ... friendfeed is fulfilling all the functions more or less...except for the direct message...hmmm." --- Leila: "As you may have found, Iranians are so active in friendfeed nowadays. I agree with Selma, it's replacing twitter somehow." - Mitchell Tsai

Really nice article. I knew I should have gone with a female avatar!. Though I'm sure the trickery would have ended once they read the name. - Geoff Schultz

Geoff - change your avatar to Snoopy and people might think you are Charles Schulz! On the second hand.. maybe not. - Phil G

My scathing tell it all guide is free too, but its only one rule, basically buy a comfortable chair. - Anthony

FriendFeed is *not* chat. It's "forums 3.0" powered by an ever growing social network of aggregated lifestreams. - Lawrence Liu from fftogo

wrong lawrence. FF is manipulatable to the point of quick response chat. Your right about forums 3.0. that might be its primary and best use but its not its only one. also, if you respond to me, welcome to my chat room. - Anthony

Lawrence - My article does not say that FriendFeed is a chat system. I say it has elements of one, as well as elements of a forum system. - Phil G

I'm inspired and exhausted all at once. Thanks for both, I guess! - Wm Scott Rees

William -- too wordy, right? That's always been my downfall. - Phil G

For the number of tips you packed into one article, I don't think you're too wordy. The article flowed well. Sometimes too dense is tough to read (of course, people seem to like "Top 5" lists, rather than all text...) Who knows? It's one of my favorite articles this month... - Mitchell Tsai

Thanks, Mitchell! I already know you read a LOT of what comes through friendfeed, so that means a lot! - Phil G

Actually I'm only on FriendFeed a little bit. Took a six hour hike yesterday morning, and working on editing some of the great pictures. However, I read _extremely fast_ when I'm on-line. Just started reading the Everyone feed a lot (to see what Scoble's feed is like). There's a lot of cool stuff there. However even my paltry 149-person-feed only holds the last 4 hrs before hitting the Page 11 (aka Items #300-399) bug. - Mitchell Tsai

great post. i have been enjoying your entries on the blog. keep it up! and friendfeed rocks! - (jeff)isageek

J Phil: more people liking your blog...111 comments & 110 likes so far (and not even 24 hrs so far) http://friendfeed.com/e... I think you hit a "homer" with this article... - Mitchell Tsai

Dang, Mitchell. What's funny is that I have had one digg and I mixxed it myself. No Stumbles yet either. So, I guess the echo chamber effect is alive and well. - Phil G

It's strange what gets stumbled. I saw one of Louis Gray's articles get stumbled & recorded in FriendFeed within 3 hrs of his post. P.S. You might need to make a Digg link for us to "Digg" like this http://digg.com/softwar... (I Dugg it to "4"). When FriendFeed imports Digg feeds, we get links to the original article. It's way too many steps to Digg from FriendFeed. - Mitchell Tsai