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Redhead vs. ginger | Know the difference - http://www.picshag.com/redhead...
Kol Tregaskes, Jeff P. Henderson, Hutch Carpenter and 19 other people liked this
I love redheads/gingers. So there.
- Spidra Webster
Uh...
- Rahsheen the Dream
so makeup + hair dye=redhead?
- Kelly W.
she's hot.
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
Ariel Black NSFW search term
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
So dyed hair vs. non-dyed hair? I think I can remember that.
- Fleagle
After all the incidents after the Southpark episode, I doubt real red heads like to be called ginger.
- Rodfather
NPR: Online Music Service Spotify Prepares For U.S. Launch-More at http://www.npr.org/templat...
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The 8 Phases of Dating - http://divisibleby0.com/dating...
Matt Hilton, Rob Michael (Atmos Trio), Arcanized Crime and 64 other people liked this
positive.
- Bren
This is SO cute haha
- Mona Nomura
"THPPBT"
- Carlos Ayala
Lord, not I said the fly. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Lol. The last one with all the babies is the funniest.
- Alan Le
Sounds an awful lot like my daily high school life, I swear. :)
- Zach Flauaus
Wow thats definitely depressing and most certainly not how I get down.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
I know yours mostly are, but is this SFW? I'm a little scared to click... :s
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
LOL, Kamilah they are. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Thanks... it's *semi* safe, it does include some f-bombs. Wish I could easily shrink it down a bit more. Anyway, it was kinda sad :( I keep hoping things won't go that way... this Exciting Phase has lasted for a solid 6 months so far...
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Reminds me of the joke about the phases of sex... The 1st kind of sex is Smurf Sex. This kind of sex happens when youfirst meet someone and you both have sex until you are blue in the face.The 2nd kind of sex is Kitchen Sex. This is when you have been withyour partner for a short time and you are so horny you will have sexanywhere, even in the kitchen.The 3rd kind of sex is Bedroom Sex....
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- Tinfoil 2.0
HAHAHAHAHAHA...LMAO!!!!
- Anna Haro
Scary...
- Mark Aitken
from fftogo
LOL I think i'm stuck in a phase 1,2,3,6 loop
- ·[▪_▪]·
Getting to 1 is a struggle for me, oh my life. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
AWESOME!! ROFLMAO!!
- Susan Beebe
Omg I shared this almost a year ago!
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
Wow, talking about ressurecting a zombie thread. 8^P
- Chieze Okoye
I'm super stoked I connected wiht the artist!
- Mona Nomura
The Kids in the Hall are coming back to TV in new CBC miniseries called "Death Comes to Town." - http://slog.thestranger.com/blogs...
Fried Curdys, Shannon Jiménez, Brad McCrorey and 6 other people liked this
Best news evar!
- Mark Krynsky
The eight-part series was conceived by Bruce McCulloch and co-written by McCulloch and fellow Kids Dave Foley, Kevin McDonald, Mark McKinney and Scott Thompson. Directed by Kelly Makin, who helmed the original "Kids in the Hall" series and movie, "Brain Candy," the series is about what happens in a small town when all its most distinguished citizens are murdered. A suspect is arrested, there's a trial and many dark secrets are revealed along the way.
- veo
Sounds amusing. I can't wait.
- veo
oh man i hope this happens, now if they would just bring back The State
- adolfo foronda
Fwd: Facebook acquires FriendFeed. Interview with Paul Buchheit, cofounder of FriendFeed. - http://btre.blogtalkradio.com/74_2996... (via http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...)
Phillip Stewart, paniaguai, Bart LePoole and 156 other people liked this
Well that was fast, Robert.
- Adam Reyher
Wow. I honestly did not see THAT coming....
- Carter ♥ HTML5
Nice work Robert.
- Alex Calic
ya talk about real time news, thanks
- sean percival
listening
- Chris Saad
im not sure its such a great thing facebook and friendfeed sitting in a tree.
- Eran Even-Kesef
Good job Robert
- Ruchit Garg
Definitely, I'm listening now. Wow! This is breaking news!
- Manu Ullas
hopefully this turns out okay, don't want friendfeed to get ruined. great interview, that was fast reporting!
- Dakota O'Neill
What are your thoughts Robert?
- Amani
WD mate
- Chris Saad
That was quick. Thanks robert.
- Akshay Dodeja
Hoping this will lead to an improved/cleaner interface for Facebook...I prefer Friendfeed
- Rick Bucich
so, so sad. I like(d) Friendfeed much more than facebook
- Francisco Kemeny
home run for FF.. Facebook will be able to give developers a treasure trove of data one thing that Twitter is dominating on right now. Twitter has a huge developer community but isn't managing that. Here FB is poised to be huge
- John Furrier
So classic that Robert has the first interview about this...Where's Louis? :)
- Anthony Farrior
Wow!
- Ideas At Random
I think FriendFeed can help Facebook more than the other way around.
- Manu Ullas
"very cool...."
- Carter ♥ HTML5
How do they plan to mix the teenagers with the geeks?
- Jordi Soler
Amani: I am excited! Facebook has 800 employees and 300 million users. This makes both companies much more important.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
here was a comment on SiliconANGLE blog .. very funny .. "Hey, since we've copied almost every innovation you've had, guess you might as well play on the company softball team!"
- John Furrier
Nice strategic move - Interesting to see how this will integrate and looks in 12 months
- Alex Vermeule (@alexve)
to be honnest I was predicting google offer, then facebook preceed google on this, they are doing well, now rarding FF this is great, the sucess is to know when to pass to something else, the future will make the abtle wave, facebook rude for all geek it is time to code.
- abdellah
You rascal Robert, bet you had wind about FriendFeed and FaceBook merger before today? Yes? Have not used either SM apps. much UNTIL Twitter locked my account. May have been a fortunate mishap as it turns out. Getting to know the beauties of both apps. =)
- SashaKane
Awesome. Thanks.
- M. Kong
Robert wastes no time on the reporting. CNN needs reporters like this.
- JonSupermurray
Not sure I am so jazzed about it....but congratulations to the FF crew.
- Kreg Steppe
Honestly, I won't get used to following Robert Scoble in Facebook. Seems out of place to me.
- Jordi Soler
Wow! I was not expecting that.
- Devon Govett
Letter 'F' affinity and alliteration merger, classic playbook move.
- James Watters
Did I hear someone laugh in the background when you asked about FF users being disappointed?
- Paul Saarinen
Agreed Jordi
- Rick Bucich
A good interview Robert.
- Thomas Hawk
Thanks Robert! - shared and linked over on Phreadz : http://tech.phreadz.com/v...
- kosso
Robert, mind if I transcribe this? (Unless someone else already has.)
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Congrats on getting this story Robert. I agree--this is great, realtime journalism!
- Sunshine
No mention of twitter?
- Ivan Kirigin
Hahahaha...all that time you invested over here on FF paid off today! LMAO
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: just watch what happens now. :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
do you have a small amount of FriendFeed shares Robert?
- Torsten Eckert
NOOOOOOO. Damnit! I am praying that Facebook doesn't wall up Friendfeed. I was starting to build a site around Friendfeed :(
- beersage
beersage: as Facebook is trying to break their users into a more public world, I doubt that you really have anything to worry about there.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Starting to listen to this now. Hoping you are right, Rob.
- beersage
I hope so to. But regardless, I think that it was in reality necessary for FriendFeed to sell to really put the technology in front of a sufficient number of eyeballs. Facebook is probably the best acquirer that FriendFeed could have. (I would have not felt the same had FF been acquired by Google)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The thing with Friendfeed though is how I can share things outside of a 'wall.' I prominently feature the FF widget on my site. I'm just concerned of losing that capability as I was tinkering with delivering a new site w/ content primarily running through my Friendfeed account. I am to this day unable to do much outside of the wall. I am unable to subscribe to Fan Page updates in Google reader for instance. That is what concerns me about FB acquiring FF given my goals.
- beersage
Robert sounded quite breathless in that interview. Thanks Robert.
- Roberto Bonini
Great interview great Job!!
- Kevin J Hatton
This deal was about getting Paul and the team and nothing else
- Stephen Pickering
@stephan, are you serious? FB is buying a concept, a technoloie, a structure, a content and a user list
- abdellah
now how could a team that left google resist under a unique perception system, where the leader vision is upon any thing
- abdellah
Unconvincing Paul Buchheit, the team is more exited of being part of bigger story - logical for them to move on
- patrickdh
They want a way to turn their white pages into a yellow pages and the only guy on Earth who knows how to do it, is Paul
- Stephen Pickering
It was only about the technology and the people. Most people are on also FB anyway.
- James Myatt
My guess is that Paul got a tooooooooon of options and will soon be the No.2 guy at Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
Glossing over of that "short term" question by the FF boys. It just seems more about the individuals at FF than it does the users of FF. "Their (Facebook) long term goals" Nice interview, Robert!
- Melanie Reed
Well, it looks as if pass-through of FriendFeed Likes, Comments, etc. to Twitter is down. Will it be for good? Did Twitter do this in response to the acquisition? Or is it just a regular (though curiously timed) hiccup?
- Alex Schleber
twitter dow!!
- abdellah
Alex, my Facebook posts have been going through FriendFeed to Twitter today. :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
How did you record the phone conversation with Paul Buchheit? I went to BlogTalkRadio.com but... it‘s not clear at all :-(
- Florin Grozea
Florin, rough transcript here: http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...
- Bruce Lewis
To do this call I used BlogTalk Radio's Cinch: http://cinch.blogtalkradio.com/
- Robert Scoble
dugg: http://digg.com/tech_ne...
- Ali
Thanks for this, Scoble.
- mp3WatchWorld
this is why your own personal website is always more important than friendfeed, Twitter and all the rest. that's never going anywhere
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly acquired.
Martin Isaac, SOMEBODY!, adolfo foronda and 7 other people liked this
Alderaan just went tits-up or Friendfeed just got sucked into FB's tractor beam.
- Josh Haley
is this what's hot in the streets these days?
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googirl, Jacob, Jesse and 39 other people liked this
man.....
- Cee Bee
NOT HOT!!!
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Somewhere between interesting and disgusting.
- Jack&Cleo
That makes my skin crawl. Literally gives me the tingly chicken skin thing. Thanks for creeping me out, gotta click away and go hum a tune now.
- Chad Harris
Uh... wha?
- Michael McKean
gaah
- Imabug
ICK!
- BEX
:|
- Anna Haro
*flees*
- Mo Kargas
Yet another sign of the coming apocalypse.
- Bill Sodeman
GAAAAAHHHHH!
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
gaggg
- Kim Landwehr
:O
- chaz2b
all that's missing is them wearing real, live octopus hats
- Cee Bee
eeyuck.
- Roshni
Gross
- RetiredTeacherD
gack. skeeves. squicked out.
- Leslie Poston
someone swapped her false lashes with her hair extensions
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
o.O
- Mellyboo
had to hide this, too ugly to keep seeing.
- Will Higgins™
Must hide this item, too ugly for words...
- Bill Sodeman
no.
- Bren
Whhaaaaaa
- Shevonne
Um. Uh. I got nothing.
- Ha3rvey (heavy duty)
Silly.
- Derrick
EEEkkk
- Bee
whaaaaaaa? o_O
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Hahahaha
- Rodfather
Just grow your fringe like every self-respecting teen does - then you can hide behind that! No need to....whatever it is they've done there...with the horse-mane eyes...the hidden eyes not staring...blinded by the self-inflicted... *ARRRGGH!* MAKETHEMSTOP!
- WoH: Minding her Steves
what in the name of hell is that?
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
What in the flying fuck!
- Divided By Zer0
Good for hitting Cthulhu
- Jemm
Gross.
- Zackatoustra
That's disturbing
- Joe Dawson
gross. :-P
- albameccanica - Arianna
Oh man what is this s*it ? Grosss
- Jacque
WTF!
- Randy
she's got something in her eye
- sofarsoShawn <right here>
thats why we need dislike
- Drago
Hot? Thats just weird, come on, give it a name! lol
- Kevin J Hatton
I'll name it: Hide!
- Jordan Hofker
That reminds me of an Japanese horror movie "Ekusute" http://www.imdb.com/title...
- Wao || 大号真皮人偶
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
- SteVe "Glory Juice" C
Truly disgusting! And just plain dumb....
- Bonnie Foster
gawd. HIDE.
- Melissa
"Doctor, can you help me? I got ROGAINE in my eyes!"
- Absentee
i wish i could unsee this
- sean percival
@Sean Percival -- You can. Let them show you how.
- Absentee
See? This is what happens when you let your eyelashes grow out. :)
- Morton Fox
No, eyelashes can't grow that long. You need eyewigs.
- Morton Fox
http://www.flickr.com/photos... For those who wondered where those pictures could come from.
- Zackatoustra
With-out looking for proof, I'd say they're the obvious and glaring fake eyelashes (extensions) but what's the point of such a creation? To be different? What I'd like to think is they were designed and produced as part of a make-up prop for a film or one those funky fashion shows but one never knows, could be an upcoming, just because, trend.
- Mac Sharp
thats jacked up
- Jesse
Worse than any horror movie I've seen in the last ten years.
- Micah Monserrat
Brilliant Woman Solves All of California's Problems - http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1...
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adolfo foronda, sean808080, Russellreno and 2 other people liked this
fruit and vegetable trees! OMGWTFBBQ
- BEX
did she dye her hair ? Cause that most certainly is not the kind of talk you would expect hahahaha.
- Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
I vote this girl and Palin, 2012.
- Vince DeGeorge
ugh santa cruz, their mascot is the slug too
- adolfo foronda
Alternate ending of the day - Twilight - http://jeffisageek.posterous.com/alterna...
Johnny, Kol Tregaskes, adolfo foronda and 17 other people liked this
Danny DeVito Loses His Mind… - http://www.zee.me/blog...
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Will Higgins™, adam garrett, Tapio Kulmala and 6 other people liked this
brace yourself...
- Zee.
that rocked!
- Jim the Blatant
that's gotta hurt...
- Mike Nencetti
no doubt, took me by surprise too :)
- Zee.
holy crap
- adolfo foronda
holy crap is right...lol
- Zee.
Zee, how are you getting friendfeed comments to post directly to your blog?
- adam garrett
Could you Survive without money? Meet the guy who does. - http://men.style.com/details...
Threepwood, Penguin and adolfo foronda liked this
Musicians Find New Backers as Labels Lose Power - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
adolfo foronda, a runcible MiniMage, yagami and 2 other people liked this
If only it worked!!--->RT @hobronto userdel -r perezhilton // userdel -r blackeyedpeas // userdel -r trueblood // userdel -r squarespace
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DEADLINE post-it stop motion - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Retaggr is cool. Just updated all my stuff there. http://www.retaggr.com/Page... Like a modern business card.
news2me, Peter Efland, Michael Fidler and 23 other people liked this
Looks cool.
- Svartling
Nice. Ty Robert
- g.g.
I'll definitely try it out.
- Micah Monserrat
Add your FFeed username, and it fills in the lot for you. Just like Google Profiles. If only they used OAuth/OpendID...
- zeroinfluencer
there's a script for greasemonkey to show retaggr cards for twitterers who use them, btw
- mark zero (Jason)
Like a lot of other stuff, I signed up for Retaggr, did a little and haven't went back as of yet. My name's on small, uninteresting pages all over the net by now. I really need to get them all together, delete some, concentrate on a few more for awhile at least. I signed up for some aggregator that put most of them together for me. Now if I could just remember the name of the thing.........
- Molly
Molly, at this point I join things not because I necessarily find them useful, but to prevent someone else from taking the username and then my friends getting confused :)
- mark zero (Jason)
Good work Chief Troublemaker. I will also clean my retaggr up. Like Molly I signed up for this and many other things at some time. I always liked the idea of retaggr, but found the site a bit ugly. Same goes for the wordpress plugin that shows all of your online places.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Just added mine. I like the fact that you have some basic control of your profile page, but I would like a little more customization.
- Rob Diana
I use retaggr as well. very convenient.
- Sean
I use Retaggr for quite a while already... I've also nicely integrated it in my blog on the about page: http://www.aadjemonkeyrock.com/2009...
- Aad 't Hart
Awoke this morning fully clothed on top of my covers next to my laptop and found a confirmation email of my retagr account. just wow.
- Kevin Murray
Can you integrate with your Gmail, does not work for me.
- Guillaume Foutry
Yes, I like Retaggr. I have recommended it to several people. It is eye opening as to how many social media places there are. I am a member of a few they do not have and they have MANY I am not a member of. Great all in one site for reference. I like FreindFeed and NimBuzz.com approach better though where you can have one login and connect with many places better though
- HelloHealthy
Yes, I've been using it for a while - pretty cool
- Sharon Hurley Hall
yes, sounds true
- Sakib Mahmud
retaggr rocks. Been using it for a while and no complaints so far. Yes, you can integrate with gmail. They are responsive if you have problems and want assistance.
- angel gambino
retaggr is too busy for my taste... I prefer extendr.com ... more design conscious
- Peter Herzog
If you like Retaggr, you might also like DandyID.org. Mashable covered both sites in a post yesterday titled "5 Ways to Share Your Social Media Identity" http://mashable.com/2009...
- arron
<----THIS GUY is already sick of WolframAlpha.
Mike Fruchter, Kol Tregaskes, Iván Abrego and 22 other people liked this
*fistbump*
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
LOL. What has made it get so much buzz?
- Lindsay
I've seen the words but have no idea what it means. When I think of Wolfram, I think of Angel, the television series.
- Jason Toney
I can't hide fast enough. Wishing I had a filter.
- Anika
JT, that's my exact same sentiment.
- Derrick
Okay, and this post made the comments in my good night post from last night make so much more sense. Then I clicked the link: http://friendfeed.com/fabooma...
- Anika
I have no idea what it is. [edit: I just looked 2.5 inches down my screen and found out]
- a runcible MiniMage
I know what it is, but it's of no interest to me right now. Wake me when it can tell us what the significance of 42 is.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
42 is my bust size....LOL No it's not.
- Anika
It's blocking out the entertainment in friendfeed.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
@Derrick why are you already sick of WolframAlpha (whatever it is)?
- jbrotherlove
It's just people going ga-ga over it, J. OMG OMG, WOLFRAMALPHA, OMG OMG. One of those type of dealies. I'm looking at waffle recipes.
- Derrick
@Derrick so it's mostly b/c you don't care about WolframAlpha but a lot of ppl in your stream do. this is how I feel about American Idol, Miss California, Lost, etc. it comes with the territory; ppl discuss things they're excited about.
- jbrotherlove
If that's this morning's meme, I'm right with you lol.
- Mona Nomura
I want to hire their pr pimps
- adolfo foronda
J, I get it. And I'm not losing any sleep over it. They can have their fun, I'm planning for my photo shoot.
- Derrick
*wonders what Derrick is shooting*
- jbrotherlove
LOL, J, it's a simple lighting test, first assignment for my new class. I'll be shooting some stuff from my kitchen, stock pot, cheese grater, whisk. Nothing fancy, but gimme a couple weeks. I have some cinnamon rolls with chocolate and pecans I've been dying to try out. :)
- Derrick
*drools over the idea of the cinnamon rolls with chocolate and pecans*
- Blatantly LB
I know a bunch of ex-Woofies. The gossip surrounding math guys is pretty slim.
- anna sauce
I don't even know why I wrote that. I was tempted to delete, but cared even less about that LOL
- anna sauce
speaking of waffles, can't stop thinking about french toast. like really good French sourdough baguette French toast.
- anna sauce
Luckily I missed that as I was offline for more than a week. Don't even know what it is :-)
- Richard A.
How come so many job ads still say "young and dynamic"? Isn't that age discrimination?
Hutch Carpenter, Kol Tregaskes, anna sauce and 14 other people liked this
Maybe you're supposed to take "young" figuratively? Alternatively, what would you replace the world "young" with? I don't think they're pointing to the "wet behind the ears", "naive", and "inexperienced" parts of "young" people. So young is like a compliment here.
- Meryn Stol
I actually think they mean youthful. Older people can claim to be youthful too.
- Meryn Stol
I guess it's a state of mind. You can probably be 20 and be old and sluggish.
- Dan Perlman
Why yes, yes it is.
- Laura Norvig
It could also be that they don't mean "young", but "cheap", because young people are often still cheap to hire. :)
- Meryn Stol
Greg, I think you can be youthful - as opposed to "sluggish", as Dan mentions - even at an old age. It's more a state of mind.
- Meryn Stol
Maybe they also mean "not yet cynical". ;)
- Meryn Stol
.. and "sprightly" and "brisk".
- Meryn Stol
Job ads say "young and dynamic"? In the US, I'm pretty sure that's outright illegal according to the ADEA (unless it's a BFOQ). The only time I've seen those words in job ads are when discussing the company, not when describing the type of employee they're looking for.
- ⓞnor
youthful is not the same as young. they should say what they mean. However, 65 would be young as compared to 80, so there's wiggle room there.
- Laura Norvig
I think you should give people who write these ads the benefit of the doubt. "young and dynamic" is such a logical pair of words... It also sounds better than "youthful and dynamic" (first has better rhythm) and I honestly never heard of the words "sprightly" and "brisk" until I looked them up in my thesaurus. --> What do you *expect* them to say?
- Meryn Stol
but like "not yet cynical" I also think they mean "not yet distrusting"... So maybe they manage to fence of exactly those people with these kind of words. Great strategy (but I don't think they do it consciously).
- Meryn Stol
I searched sf bayarea craigslist jobs for [young]: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search.... The results are: soliciting egg donors (sounds like a BFOQ to me), teaching young children, helping young adults, maintaining young street trees, teaching young people, contact Stephen Young, helping young people, impart your expertise to the young, organization and culture in a young company -- egg donors aside, I see *nothing* looking for young people. Where are these job ads Joelle is talking about??
- ⓞnor
I find ageism to be silly both ways - it is absurd to think that someone young could not be experienced - I know kids who were inventing business at 12 and would be extremely experienced by 25 but a ridiculous recruiter might not pay attention long enough to notice. I also have hired someone who was 62, and she worked for us till past 65 happily, as enthusiastically and dynamically as...
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- Iphigenie
I think a woman in her sixties working "nthusiastically and dynamically as someone 30 would have" would qualify for this "young and dynamic" label. You need to give the ad writers the benefit of the doubt though. I hope there will not be some kind of police who chases after people who use the term "young". It's just a word!
- Meryn Stol
Meryn, in the US, there are in fact "police who chase after people who use the term young". Those police are named the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. They are the same police who chase after people who use the terms "white", "male", or "single" in job ads. I believe many countries are similar, including for example the Netherlands, which passed the Equal Treatment in Employment Bill in 2004.
- ⓞnor
Onor, White or male is far more specific than young. These terms are almost unambiguous. But then, lawmakers sometimes don't really know where to focus. At least they'll please old, grumpy, cynical people like Joelle this way (to just characterize what I think about obsessing over such a word). Maybe the laws in the UK are still different.
- Meryn Stol
Sometimes I wonder where the principle of giving people the benefit of the doubt has gone...
- Meryn Stol
Age discrimination law in the UK: http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwed.... From the "guide for employers": "Avoid references, however oblique, to age in both the job description and the person specification. ... Avoid using language that might imply that you would prefer someone of a certain age, such as 'mature', 'young' or 'energetic'."
- ⓞnor
For widely practiced discriminatory practices, the time for "benefit of the doubt" was gone many years ago. Minorities endured decades of cat-and-mouse games where people said "good character" instead of "white", or "robust" instead of "male". The impression of discrimination *is* discrimination, because it sends a hostile message. Anyway, "young" is 100% explicit -- you have to twist and contort to tell me that "young" *could* mean "young at heart" or "younger than that really old person".
- ⓞnor
Re UK Law: Wow, extreme that even "energetic" cannot be used. I think this is going WAY to far.
- Meryn Stol
Meryn, thanks for the old and grumpy, silly young man ;) Seriously though, in business situations it is important to be precise and aware with the meaning of words, because for example in a job ad you are clearly saying who should and shouldn't bother to apply - and people who come from minoritized groups are already internally discouraged, so it doesn't take much to exclude them -...
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- Iphigenie
" The impression of discrimination *is* discrimination, because it sends a hostile message. " - I consider that a slippery slope. Let me tell you, in general, I'm looking for energetic and *non-cynical* people. I make an exception for Joelle on the cynical part because she seems so damn competent.
- Meryn Stol
And please, anti-discrimination guys in the UK (or Netherlands... where I live after all) come after me because I want people who are not so cynical. After all, it MIGHT imply I'm looking for teenagers.
- Meryn Stol
Meryn, energetic has been used to unfairly exclude people with certain kinds of mild disabilities, from asthma to certain kinds of diabetes etc - what does "energetic" have to do with the ability to do a job where you sit at the computer all day, that is so important it needs to be set in writing in the original job advertisement? If it is just "fluff" then it doesnt belong in the ad, and since it is in the ad, there must be a reason
- Iphigenie
Uhm, what about the ability to "energize" a team? Or to do work fast, instead of slow?
- Meryn Stol
Also, because I'm looking for "the best and brightest", women do not have to apply with me anymore.
- Meryn Stol
The ability to energise and motivate a team would not be described with the terms "young and energetic", would it? "inspiring" and "leadership" might be used for that? Similarly I really hate jobs that ask for "track record that demonstrates" because that would certainly make a 22 year old hesitate to apply (that wording was found on a job aimed at fresh graduates/PHDs, how silly!)
- Iphigenie
I think I'm gonna to follow Joelle's (probably very wise) advice and leave it at this. :)
- Meryn Stol
You just make the job description about the job and skills you need, and that might include "intangible" skills such as being a motivator or having a good network. You try to remove anything that is about a subjective mental picture - such as young, energetic etc. because the subjective unconscious mental picture *everyone* has for almost every job is profoundly biased towards a North...
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- Iphigenie
Joelle, there's this principle from distributed system design that's says so much as "be conservative in what you sent, be tolerant in what you receive".. I think that applies here very well. I praise people who go to lengths not to be misunderstood, yet failing to do so does not mean there's any discrimination going on.
- Meryn Stol
But it *does* exclude people - for example saying "10 years experience" excludes very precisely anyone with less, but it is totally arbitrary, because some people are a lot more capable than others, some people have worked a lot more on a particular technology (because they did just that) in 2 years than others (who only dabbled) in 10 - so it is a meaningless number that has no real...
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- Iphigenie
" the subjective unconscious mental picture *everyone* has for almost every job is profoundly biased towards a North European style 30-something young male " - You have statistics on that?
- Meryn Stol
Yup - plenty of examples. "Blink" has a whole chapter on that, how for example "professional" and "male" are measurably correlated, as are "white" and "good" etc. I think film and TV made it worse, because they made the pictures even more "visual" than before - so if you are short or ugly or fat or female or colored or speak funny etc. you don't match the "professional" "smart" or "leadership" mental image, and it is a disadvantage
- Iphigenie
Hmm, I must admit that I distrust anything by Malcom Gladwell by default ever since I've seen some negative remarks about his research. I've seen him being accused of cherry-picking facts to fit his story. If you have Blink at hand, can you say who Gladwell is citing?
- Meryn Stol
The mere correlation of these concepts do not support your much specific assertion though. I certainly believe the tendency is there, either stronger or weaker.
- Meryn Stol
Maybe it was Gladwell who jumped to conclusions?
- Meryn Stol
This is well researched and measurable, from promotion patterns, psychology tests, bias tests - i have a few of the gender links in my feed (see http://www.diigo.com/user... too). But they have been measuring it for years at http://implicit.harvard.edu/ for example. Think about it though - what kind of stories were in the books you learned to read with, what were...
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- Iphigenie
Well I believe you have done reading on it, but I don't think this counts as statistics supporting your assertion. This is not to say that I don't believe you, I think you're at least half right with it. I mainly wanted to point out that while you were talking about mental pictures, you have a mental picture of the "generalized other", and especially what he or she thinks yourself. It's good to check up and that now and then.
- Meryn Stol
I also sense you think you're different from most people in this regard. Have these other people just not seen the light? How come? Did they miss some essential learning moments in life?
- Meryn Stol
Joelle, I think the main thing I want to point out is that if you're talking about people believing in myths, you must be very sure that your belief that people belief in myths is not (partly) a myth in itself. Otherwise we can just reduce the discussion to why people don't check their beliefs.
- Meryn Stol
What's with the trolling today Meryn? I dont think I am different, I am not any more bias free than anyone, although some of those biases are different simply because I grew up in a family where the friends' circle was unconventional - so I lacked some of the classic biases in Switzerland. All you can do is try to be aware of them. Try some of the bias tests, it is an interesting thing...
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- Iphigenie
Joelle, all I want to know is where you get your knowledge from, and if you don't know, you must be very weary, because you may see the world differently than it is. People having biases is one thing, showing that biases work towards actual discrimination is something different. One could hypothesize that biases play a role in how different groups are treated, but you can only prove it if you have manage to compensate for all other possible factors.
- Meryn Stol
Hmm, reading back to the statement that triggered my questioning, I see I have gone wrong.
- Meryn Stol
And to go back to job ads, there are a lot of things that are discrimination, because they are not objectively justifiable - like demanding a precise number of years, or a degree from a certain set of universities (seen recently in the UK, must be from the "top 10"), or demanding a "new graduate", or saying "salesman". As a business you cannot be careless and write job ads (or contracts, or marketing material) without carefully thinking it through.
- Iphigenie
By the way "I'm looking for energetic and *non-cynical* people. I make an exception for Joelle on the cynical part because she seems so damn competent." made me laugh - I might sound cynical but it is not cynicism, there is no acidity or acrimony (it would be pointless) - it's more some kind of resigned weariness... And I come across, in real life, as very animated, dynamic and...
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- Iphigenie
... and on top of that, I indeed have resorted to some "trolling" I'd say. Especially with the "How come?" Sorry for that.
- Meryn Stol
"resigned weariness." - well yeah that at least fits the "old dog" stereotype a bit... Reminds me even of "learned helplessness" which is a phenomenon which I believe is first demonstrated with actual dogs.
- Meryn Stol
but i am not an old dog at all, just a very experienced young and dynamic go getter :D
- Iphigenie
I told you before that this combination is kind of hard for me to place. "A pessimist with a cheery personality" you said before. :)
- Meryn Stol
I suspect women in science or technology, or other minorities going in fields where they are so far from the norm as to be a curiosity will totally understand - there comes a point where you get tired of having to prove yourself over and over every time, have to be so much better and so much more careful and so much more everything just to get over the hurdles. Tired of having a lot of...
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- Iphigenie
@Joelle, thanks for "resigned weariness".
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Meryn, i think it comes because people see "pessimism" as some kind of defeatist attitude - the pessimist gives up, the optimist fights on, seems to be the cliche. But pessimism and optimism have NO correlation with hope or determination. There are many cases where the pessimists tries harder (because aware of the huge hurdles ahead) whereas the optimist gets complacent (it will be...
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- Iphigenie
"there comes a point where you get tired of having to prove yourself over and over every time, have to be so much better and so much more careful and so much more everything just to get over the hurdles. " I think I'll never be able to fully understand that experience. It reminds me of descriptions of being "black". Still, I'm a bit worried how these negative experiences (which I don't...
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- Meryn Stol
Hmm... Interesting expansion. I think I can best be typified as an optimist who never learns from when things were harder than expected. :) There's a word for it in Dutch which I can't find the English word for. damn... Like "feeling more capable than you really are" - all the time. :)
- Meryn Stol
But this personality is great for venturing into uncharted territory, taking on new (and big) things. It might be that if I would think of things as hard as they really are, I wouldn't bother with them. I live in a permanent state of "almost there". :)
- Meryn Stol
Meryn - sorry to scare you but there is a chance that after you have been a pioneer venturing in uncharted territories a few times more, you might start sounding more like me. Uncharted territory starts to feel less "new and exciting" after the 6th or 7th cycle of it - and yet you can probably notice I am still planning for more... But this post is simply because these unconscious...
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- Iphigenie
"one of the things that tickles my desire to fight " - hmmm... Do I infer correctly you're driven by the hope for "righting wrongs"? Indeed, bringing important subjects to others' attention is a noble goal. But for example with hiring practices, I'd rather go the route of hard power: Fire - or at least threaten to fire - all people who hire "irrationally". What you say about that?...
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- Meryn Stol
And of course, it's my optimism who says I can do better than merely talk about wrongs. It's not the result of a calculation, it can't be calculated with current algorithms and/or computing power I think.
- Meryn Stol
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to study the other interesting things you wrote today!
- Meryn Stol
I think the "young & dynamic" ads are usually from old and decrepit businesses (or at least following that old model) trying to stay alive in a new business culture they don't understand.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Chris, maybe they mean with young: Someone who understands this Twitter-thingie. :P
- Meryn Stol
Meryn: it is just lazyness but it is not something a company can afford - they don't just cut-and-paste their contracts without checking, and they cannot afford to do that with job advertisements because these are official contractual businesses. How would you feel if you read the perfect job ad, describing a paid position to do exactly the kind of research and writing you want to do, and then it had a some line that they want a family man, or someone with at least 35 or... it'd be silly, no?
- Iphigenie
Trying to think of some examples I have seen recently
- Iphigenie
"Settling on the artsy approach" heh. **OUCH**
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Well sometimes you cannot indeed do any better, because when you are hoping to make people think or change, then art in all its form is just about unbeatable - music, film, photography etc. all have bashed open doors especially when it comes to prejudice. Not all art, but art is often a way to pointing out the unthinkable in oblique ways, or twist received ideas (I love to bash received...
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- Iphigenie
I agree that art can be powerful for changing minds... But you've got to come up with some really good art then. And either you need the leverage of a huge ad campaign, or it needs to go viral, which means crafting the message/video/whatever would be much harder still.
- Meryn Stol
Opinions of Mondrian notwithstanding <g>, what came after grunting and pointing was scratching on the ground or cave wall. Communication (in terms of making a real connection with another human being) in this linear experience is still limited by language in a way that more directly immersive experiences like the arts is not. The mechanics of the human organism may be predictable, but the organics of the human mechanism are not as easily mapped out statistically.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Meryn, I'm not so sure - I think even bad art can poke :)
- Iphigenie
Today is the 11th anniversary of the launch of TechTV. R.I.P.
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I still miss it. :(
- Eva
I really miss TechTV, It was a great channel!
- Chuck Drake
I miss it too, Leo. TWiT on, dude.
- Steve Smyth
I miss it as well. In specific Screensavers. Never missed it.
- Juan Hernandez
My favs were Call for Help, Screensavers & Fresh Gear...
- Bwana ☠
Good to see Sumi Das on Fine living doing the gadget thing still
- Bwana ☠
I miss old school TechTV. Call For Help and Screensavers were great!
- John Burke
Man, I miss ZDTV/TechTV so much. I learned so much watching the original Call for Help and Screensavers shows.
- Matt Thompson
Wow 11 years? I was 13... time flies
- Shawnee
The only problem with TechTV was that there was your show then about 11 hours of bull shit.
- Logan Hall
I learned so much from Call for Help and the Screensavers. TWiT is the best.
- Nestor
I don't miss the FilterFresh coffee, the Cafe Moda prices, or the unccoperative building security. But that's about it.
- Tom Merritt
I miss the old screen savers!! It was the reason I got the extra channels from comcast.
- Shawn Taylor
Now we have Leo TV. Can there be too much of a good thing? No.
- Daniel Buckley
I had the pleasure of working with some of the talent from the shows during the TechTV Digital Digs tour a few years back. Good Times!
- Mark Gifford
i have a picture with you and Patrick from one of the events. and also a TechTV laptop bag. :)
- John Wang
Daniel if you can't stop watching you could be addicted to the life of leo :P
- FW
today as in May 11 or May 12?
- David Damore
Friends of mine, who I didn't know at the time, and I still talk about watching the Screensavers in early high school, and how it turned us to a life of geek.
- Nick Ciervo
TechTV > g4tv
- JT
Screen Savers should be on NBC at 8PM!
- William
Ah yeah, the good ol' days. I still miss the screensavers and x-play (yes, I know it's still on, but it's been f'd over by G4 to the point of being unwatchable) So many great memories of screen savers when it was live... I still laugh at patrick + hammer + IBM glass substrate disk drive = kaboom. :))
- Chris Abbey
Dang, I'm still mourning the loss of "The Site."
- Sue Radd
I found Tech TV on Dish Network in the Fall of 1998. I loved Tech TV. Then G4 killed it. But Leo and Revision 3 recreated it.
- George Brickner
I miss Tech TV. Best television for its day.
- Ken Barrango
Shawn: Same here. Also got extra channels so I could watch Tech TV.
- Sue Radd
Ahh, good times, good times.
- Gordon Alley
Foxtel had it in Oz for about 8 months before it was canned by G4. Was certainly a staple.
- clearcut
According to that, I must have been 8 when it launched and didn't get it until 2001 I believe. I truly thank you guys for helping me go forward with my tech interest. Thanks Leo and the TechTV'ers! TSS and Call for Help forever! :D
- Chris
dang! i was 6, 11 years ago! that's when it all started for me! becoming and developing into the tech nerd i am today! has it really been that fast?!
- Kevin
Why, in this day of MTV8, Food2, and Military History Channel, can we not have something the even resembles TechTV. I got the "expanded digital" package from Comcast way back in the day just for TechTV. Wasn't Chris Pirillo and you working to get something similar onto the interwebs?
- Antonio Yon
Still Leo, I think the TechTV crowd has truly moved on to many good things though, between TWiT, Revision3, and others.
- Chris
Those were the day I reminisce. Screen Savers was the best.
- William Doom
sad, but i enjoy the content the ex-tech tvers are putting out more than anything they could release on a cable network
- TenderLovePony
Dev Null, Dont worry, Tech tv had babies and one which we love is Twit Tv!
- Josef
Well we know the last day of ZDTV when was the First?
- Heath J.
I miss TechTV. It was on channel 64 here and when we got YES network (which I love) TechTV got dropped from the lineup. Then Comcast bought them and killed it...ugh it's good to see the stars from there made their own sites and continue the tech talk online.
- Michael Coogan
I miss it every day... and have the sticker to show my love: http://twitpic.com/50tdo
- grungyparadigm
Wow, that is a long time ago now. I never got to see many of those shows, but what I saw I remember well.
- Micah
Loved TechTV. Screensavers ruled.
- Jerry Longbine
I miss TechTV. :'(
- Lindsay
Used to watch all the time. RIP indeed.
- Stan Augustyniewicz
::tear::
- The Amber
and nothing can ever replace it
- Joseph Akbrud
I miss Tech TV so much. I miss the Screen Savers, Call for Help, and other shows that aired on Tech TV.
- Sreyeesh
While I like the old TechTV/ZDNet shows, I like what's replaced it just fine. Long live the TWiT Network!
- Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy
You know, up until recently I'd actually forgotten about it. Thank goodness my Dad had DirectTV back then, I was able to watch it even in Westhope ND, of all places..
- J L Ford
But what would I listen to in the car if Tech TV hadn't died?
- Matt Agnello
TechTV was great, especially The Screen Savers. And the TSS Holiday marathons!!!!
- MuscleNerd
TechTV was all I watched in high school. I was so sad when G4 shredded it to pieces... Well at least now I have TWiT and revision3
- Brian Lamb
i really miss Unscrewed and all the shorter shows though i did watch TSS and C4H all the time as well, hey Leo you should let martin bring back Unscrewed and have the Swisher be his cohost, that'd be EPIC
- Will
TechTV.. It was good " Television "
- johnny
been that long?
- Daniel CerVentus
Going to drop G4tv. I barely watch it. It's just never been the same.
- Eva
I miss Screensavers and Fresh Gear, but I also love Attack of the Show. X-Play is a problem child... the talent is outstanding, but the format has been jacked with so much that it's hard to watch.
- Roger Benningfield
For a brief moment, the television taught us about it's replacement, before awakening to the reality of it's own doom. (The Screensavers was terrific!)
- Chris Cox
ZDNet/TechTv on DirectTV. Was the best, too bad they couldn't fill up 24 hours a day with programming. The Thing about the Screensavers is that it was hugely entertaining in addition to informative. Right now, TwiT is informative but doesn't have the polished feel that broadcast tv or some of the Revision3 shows have. This isn't bad, just different.
- Steve Helder
loved screen saver & call for help, we used to get it in Abu Dhabi. Was so glad when I got an ipod a few years ago that you started TWiT.
- Iain Clydesdale
Join the chorus of those who miss. Leo, from another old guy liberal arts major who worked in radio and became a self-taught techie to another, thanks for blazing the trail.
- Greg Wilson
I discovered TechTV in early 2003 when I was home recovering from some minor surgery. Got hooked on Call for Help, The ScreenSavers and Fresh Gear. I was just "learning" to make my way around the PC and these shows were incredibly helpful. I really miss those programs! Thanks to Leo for carrying on with TWiT.
- Grace Adams
I very much miss TechTV.
- Sean Brady
I was 8 at the time- it's been a while. And we should def put TSS on NBC at 9:00- better ratings than they have right now!
- Jake Bechtold
Tech TV was like porn for geeks.
- Bryan Warman
Damn you G4!
- Alex Scrivener
It was ahead of its time.
- Bill Hertzing
would be great if the old show were put on-line somewhere best dam tech tv ever!
- Alan Abentrod
I really liked the old TechTV. I watched Screen Savers regularly.
- Barry Biddlecomb
from twhirl
I still remember the day I learned of the beginning of the end... all I could think was, "Poop!", and, "That Morgan Webb chick will never make it as a show host". Keep the TWiT going, Leo!
- Mike Patterson
I still to this day feel a void at 7PM my time when The Screen Savers used to come on, but I make up for it by tuning into twitlive.tv and everything feels a little better. Besides, TV was so 1999 anyways!
- Mike Lewis
I miss The Screensavers soooooooo much!
- Howard Tyson
I miss TechTv also but With it gone we are getting better content and more of it than ever. Also it is from the best. Like Leo, Patrick, Kevin, And Alex I think It was for the best
- Josh Wagner
Yeh, I miss it too but the projects coming out of that (TWIT) are terrific!!!!!!!!
- MarK
So sad, I also miss Computer Chronicles. Oops, I just aged myself!
- Brad Stolba
miss TechTV. remember coming home to watch it everyday.
- (jeff)isageek
Eventually Leo is going to make Comcast regret what they did to TechTV ... plain and simple
- John Blanton
from twhirl
Yeah but G4 is so much better /sarcasm
- Andrew Johnson
I would miss it, but I like TWIT and Revision3 better :).
- Mikey Rollins
Leo Laporte = Cool, Kate Botello = Hot, those were the days!
- Dan H.
I like techtv since the 1st day i got it 1-1-2000 , i miss it , if it was not for techtv (zdtv) i would have never gotten a computer
- shaun owens
We all miss the good shows that we had on TechTV
- Milford C. Hutsell III
you interviewed my daughter Kristen about a driver training software product. This guy named Ed kept warning her to check her mirrors. So now she always checks her mirrors. Ed meant well.
- bill
I still have Silicon Spin mug. Treasured.
- Eric - 100% Choice Cuts
Le *sigh*
- SOMEBODY!
Never understood why G4 fired everyone at TSS, changed the name and revamped the whole show. Why not just keep TSS and start a new show?
- dthree
you all were the best.
- Nathan Brown
I so miss TSS and CFH. I also miss Silicon Spin (but Cranky Geeks makes up for it), Fresh Gear (Oh, that Jim Louderback was sooo easy on the eyes!) but seriously, I think I really miss CFH but thank G-d for TWiT.
- Anita Pesola
Whatever happened to Stewart Chiefet?
- Kenneth F Jones
I miss TechTV also Leo!
- Luke
Techtv was what got me into computers, it will always be remembered and missed.
- Hardeep
I miss Paul Block a fantastic producer for the show I knew, introduced me to everyone b4 they were "net famous".
- adolfo foronda
what great times those were...
- Scott A. Swiecki
I still miss coming home, turning on The Screen Savers and finding out the latest on Tech. Watch Fresh Gear and Call For Help... sigh... Thank God for TWiT.tv Hey leo, when will you have Cat Schwartz on TWiT?
- Arnold
g4 sucks. oh techtv i want u back.
- cliper53
My my how time flies
- John Blake
Phil Tapia Quote <333 http://philtapia.com/
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Did it: deleted my Twitter feed from FriendFeed. No one needs to see my friends @replies to me. Important stuff now goes FF>>Twitter
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Whoa!
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
I've actually been thinking about this, but part of the appeal of FF is that I can manage things all from here.
- Kathy Fitch
Thank you, I wish everyone did this.
- adolfo foronda
Well, this decision came from thinking about a) how FF has become the hub of my soc web life and b) how annoying it is to read out-of-context @replies from other people Twitter friends in my FF home stream. So I thought, why should I annoy others with mine. So Kathy, I do still "manage all things from here." I simply go to FF first to post anything I want to share, and let FF push it to Twitter. I still get chatty and converse on Twitter, but my FF subscribers don't need to see all that. Make sense?
- Mark Traphagen
Gotcha--thought you were saying you entirely deleted the connection, which I wouldn't want to do.
- Kathy Fitch
Wait, huh? How did you manage to eliminate @replies posting from Twitter to Friendfeed without removing all of twitter? I didn't see any setting in Friendfeed to filter that out? Where is this?
- April
I didn't, April. I removed my upfeed from Twitter in order to eliminate the useless @replies on FF. It was the nuclear solution, and only works for me because I now post mostly from FF. If there were a filter to eliminate just @replies, I might reactivate the Twitter feed. What I really want is the ability to filter out other people's @replies posted to their FF streams.
- Mark Traphagen
Just for the record, I generally unsub from people on Twitter who pipe FriendFeed there.
- Akiva
How do I stop the feeds from duplicating? I like FF into Twitter as I'm here more than there, but will eliminate it if it bothers peole.
- Molly
I only push FF postings into my Twitter feed if it's something that I would post on Twitter anyway. Since I've started posting to FF more often, my Twitter stream would appear to others as nothing but one sided updates otherwise.
- Sharon McPherson
Ok, removed one of my twitter accounts. I'll leave the other one only because I post good stuff there (personal development/time management) that I don't post directly here.
- April
Mmm, interesting, I had those thoughts last week but was thinking of a concept behind the use of those services. As long as the 'duplicated' one is in harmony with what you produce, then it's all good. Having personal conversations applied for the merit of your answers being 'backed' by digital users can also be tempting. I follow Christine Lu's updates from FF as from twitter, whenever the situation calls for my passage through one service, but she only has the feed imported I think.
- Zu from AOD
Keith Richards IS scary! - http://www.limk.com/golimk...
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The Carrot Top pics will give me nighmares for weeks.
- Janet
Two sizes - http://www.seyvet.com/foto...
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It baffles me how we (Americans) concentrate on global issues and forget our own people. We too, have starving ppl w/ no clean water.
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Good point. I sometimes feel the same way, but should we only look inward all the time?
- Eric - 100% Choice Cuts
No - but our country needs a lot of help. A LOT.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
True, no argument. So many in need.
- Eric - 100% Choice Cuts
Alas Mona, I think it is becuase it is easier to throw money at something 'over there' rather than deal with the systemic issues inside our own societies.
- Johnny
Mona, I agree with you 100%. Though, my views may be somewhat stronger: I don't believe in giving money to "help the children in Africa" or "sponsor a kid for a $1 a day". Most of the money doesn't reach the poor kid. I help out at local homeless shelters and donate my family's old blankets to them. We need to look after our own, especially in a recession.
- Michael Forian
It's not politically correct to think about ourselves first.
- Todd Jordan
And adoptable children. We have many, many, MANY, children that need a home.
- Jess
@jess - but it is so much more difficult to adopt a child in the US than it is other places...more expensive, more invasive and a much longer process. A real shame it has to be that way... we have considered adopting...
- Lindsay
@lindsay True. Our adoption system is broken. I'm working to fix it ,-)
- Jess
Good for you Jess!!
- Mona Nomura
Adi - lol. You need to come roll with me for a day. I don't think you get out much.
- Mona Nomura
I completely disagree with you Mona. "with great power comes great responsibility" and if we are a world "leader" we have to lead at more than just warming the planet up and completely changing the lives of "poor" people. Some islands (Lohachara) have already disappeared because we would rather drive big cars. Coral reefs are dying, species are dying. hundreds of millions of people are...
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- Tweet Feeds
Our education system is faulty, we are putting ignorant people in power, we are ruining the world as well as helping it. It is not our responsibility to play global police when there are many in our own country that can not or do not attend school (for multiple reasons) Can you imagine how much good we CAN do, if every one of the citizens of this country were to be educated? Big picture!
- Mona Nomura
I always criticize American government foreign policies. I think that the US government always try to be the world savior and police but forgets the issues and challenges at home. That is why I was a bit optimistic when Obama took office. Although, making promises during an election is different from establishing policies. Only time will tell, now this young government is running USA.
- Vinko
It's always funny to me how little some of us know about how other people live, the choices they have to make, the opportunities they may/may not have...
- Rahsheen the Dream
That's why I think the Internet is great, because it gives people a chance to see outside of their bubbles. It is so easy to assume certain things when you haven't seen things with your own two eyes. :)
- Mona Nomura
To add, I'm not going to lie. A lot of my friends are very *conservative (edited) and can not believe some of the things I have seen, until I tell them about my experiences. Actually, I want to do a documentary or pictorial in the near future. :)
- Mona Nomura
Even in California - have you guys heard of Chinese Camp? One of the saddest towns in CA I have ever been to. Go to Newark, Baltimore, Camden (!), Trenton (NJ's state capitol), even the outskirts of Chicago, NYC (Brooklyn), etc. And Adi? Poverty is poverty, and in a country as rich as ours, it is unacceptable for people to live below poverty lines, to work two, three jobs and still be...
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- Mona Nomura
Adi - I think it is great you were able to do work for the Gates Foundation (that I am a huge fan of) but are you aware of our educational system? And how corrupt it is? How children get extra credit for bringing school supplies, even toilet paper? Do you realize that things are not equal in this country? And I never mentioned cutting off aid, but I think a lot more Americans would concentrate on domestic issues, if made aware of the current state our nation is in.
- Mona Nomura
How about "cutting off aid to developing nations" until there's not a child in America without health care, that goes to sleep hungry, or sleeping in cars and cardboard boxes? If anyone thinks America's "social net" prevents this from being an everyday reality, I'll have to respectfully disagree.
- Sharon McPherson
I LIVE below the poverty line. I'm it. Ask me and I can tell you I've NEVER had it as bad as the poor in other nations and I've been as low as you can go here in the US. However, it's not our government's job to feed other nations. It's not even it's job to feed YOU. It's MY job to help you if you need help. Personally to assist you to get where you need to be to be able to feed...
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- Molly
Adi - to be fair, I hate to single you out since you were stating your opinion and sharing your experiences. Just know, there is no one right or wrong answer here. It's about exchanging ideas to learn from each other, so please keep an open mind, as I try to do the same.
- Mona Nomura
I feel strongly about giving my money to US-bound efforts. But that's personal. Hopefully, there are enough of us giving that the whole world shares our wealth. But one cool thing to add about the Easter Kentucky/Appalachian efforts (I grew up there) is the amount of scholarships and funds being raised for children (whose family many times CHOOSE that life) in the recent five or so years is amazing!
- Jess
What Molly says is true. I've lived for years on very close to nothing. And all throughout that time I've been able to sit and look at my life, and know that even with no house, money, or really anything, there was nothing lacking in my life. I was still probably within the top 10% of the wealthiest people on the planet. We say that we don't look out for our own people, and perhaps our...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, that was really well and beautifully said! I've been there a few times re: poor in spirit, but I've never been low as long as I see in some nations' people. I can't imagine how awful it is to wake up knowing you don't have enough food to produce milk to feed your own child. To watch them die day by day. Now THAT is true poverty and we as humans need to help those fellow human...
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- Molly
Molly, Rob, thank you so much for sharing your stories. Rob - I too agree with you regarding losing spirit because of deplorable living conditions. There are many cities in the US that are so run down and forgotten, that basically, there is no hope. You can sense it in their energies. A majority of third world countries I have been to, the overall vibe of the cities are happy -- and that is why I want to see some of the attentions shifted domestically.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, but they still have the option to move, even if it's on foot with only the clothes on their backs. I know, I've done it. This country is very generous on a personal basis and I've depended upon the kindness of strangers a few times to feed my children (they're grown now). Other nations' peoples have to deal with corruption, greed and outright threats to their lives much less the...
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- Molly
Molly, there are children in the US with bloated bellies and flies swarming w/o the energy to even them away. How is that acceptable in the US?
- Mona Nomura
I know what you mean, and then it seems the rest of the world lectures us and puts us down at times.
- orionstarr
Well there are times when we stick our noses into places it doesn't belong. Sometimes, even if our intentions are good, it results to worsening situations. :(
- Mona Nomura
Mona, where re: US children w/bloated bellies? Where are their parents? Why aren't they working if they're around? No job? Sell pencils on the street. Sell wildflowers. I've done it. It's actually a good living if you're the only one on the street w/pretty wildflowers bundled w/nice ribbons. Service stations/malls/grocery store parking lots. Bring ice if in a hot climate. Ask the local...
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- Molly
Molly, have you ever been to the ghetto? The real ghetto? Have you seen the slums of Hawaii and or areas with warmer climates? And I hate to use the word "slums" but basically, that is what they are. And there are many that are not aware of those options. Man, I wish everyone can actually see what I have seen.
- Mona Nomura
I always think that with economic times like this, we should focus more on improving ourselves. If you're an individual then your skills, and if you're a company then your content/products/services. I guess if you're a country then your people and their livelihoods.
- Vinko
Well it is hard times such as these, when great things happen. :)
- Mona Nomura
Yes, Mona I have. I've lived in 'the ghetto' in downtown Miami ('80's). Drunks on the street, hookers on every corner, etc. etc etc.. I literally walked out, hitched a ride and found someplace where I COULD make a living. Again, we have it so good here in the US compared to the poor in other countries. btw, what is the excuse in this nation of food stamps and the most giving people on...
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- Molly
Molly, yes, there are global issues the must be addressed. Every country has its problems and there is no excuse, not a single one, for the inequalities in our country, our system, of people that bust their ass never rising above "poverty lines", and most of all, our children not being educated. No one is comparing anything. (at least I am not). I am simply stating, we have MANY issues...
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- Mona Nomura
How is it ok that children get extra credit for bringing toilet paper to school? Why is shutting down a library to save on budget costs acceptable? Why are the teachers getting paid so low? In this country, where anyone can be whatever they want to be, why are they not able to reach their full potentials? Can you imagine if every child were to get equal educational opportunities? Think of how many MORE collective minds would be in the workforce, strategizing to make our WORLD a better place?
- Mona Nomura
It's easier to manipulate/control uneducated people... Not much incentive for those who could help raise others up to do it. :S
- Lindsay
I'm getting angry again thinking about our system lol.
- Mona Nomura
Sorry, Mona, but the Constitution doesn't guarantee equal results, just equal opportunity. IMHO education isn't the government's job anyway (except in a limited civics sort of way). I home schooled my kids.
- Molly
Molly, if you are an uneducated single parent working three jobs to put food on the table and a roof over your kids' heads, how would you home school?
- Mona Nomura
We have individual power that we can bring to bear, here. There are countless opportunities to improve things. We can give food, clothes, money, time, and attention. We can use whatever clout or connections we might have to draw in folks who have even more resources to share than we do. Plus, we can freely share our skills. No point waiting for others to handle it.
- Kathy Fitch
And Molly? You said as human beings, we must help those in need of help. You don't think other Americans are warranted help from their own people? And that is what I am saying -- we do NOT have equal opportunity.
- Mona Nomura
We're not guaranteed equal opportunity, we're guaranteed the right to PURSUE equal opportunity... There's a difference there (and quite a big one).
- Lindsay
Thank you Lindsay - I can not speak rationally when it comes to these topics, since domestic issues angers me SO MUCH. Taking a walk, I'm pissed off again hahaha.
- Mona Nomura
I love Mona's passion! My husband and I don't approach this one as an either/or. We strive to find opportunities to reach out to those both far and near--and we could certainly do more on both fronts. Near or far, there's never a shortage of places to begin. Right here at home, I see big schools with big budgets, tons of resources, and far too much uninspired teaching, but also a very...
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- Kathy Fitch
I've never seen an example of someone 'working their ass off and never rising above the poverty line' unless they have more kids than they can support or due to an unforeseen circumstance (accident or illness). The FEW that result from the latter case can and should be taken care of in the local community and barring that, from a broader outreach of regional charities.
- Molly
Tad bought us a Powerball ticket yesterday and we sat down and talked about what we'd do with the money if we got it... Besides the obvious of quit our jobs and travel for a while, we both were thinking of ways we would use it to help others... Setting up scholarships and grants, funding some start-up ventures for our friends who are looking for jobs, funding programs in schools to...
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- Lindsay
Mona re: single mother: Where's the father? Where's the grandparents on either side? Aunts, uncles? That's the point. It's not the government's job to care for a single mother's children while she works, it's the relatives' first, then the local community if the family fails. If the local community is overwhelmed, then regionally volunteer charities should step up to the plate. It's US...
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- Molly
Lindsay--that's one of my very favorite fantasies! I used to coordinate a large group of adjunct English professors. A great many of them taught multiple courses at multiple colleges, trying to scrape together a decent living doing the thing they loved. I used to wish that I could magically make the things they needed (groceries, clothes, cars, computers) just appear out of nowhere for...
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- Kathy Fitch
Kathy, thriving is a relative term. I live below the US poverty line, but I'm thriving. I'm poor and unhappy to be that way, but happy in all other ways.
- Molly
If your own country won't help you, which will? I believe any country should always place it's citizens first
- Keith Barrett
Keith: Let me just say ARGH! It's not our government's JOB to 'help you' if you need it. It's your family's, neighbors', neighborhood's job.
- Molly
Ok Molly. I now see your mindset and nevermind, this conversation is not going any where. However, I would like to ask why you chose to ignore my question regarding the school system.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, I didn't ignore it, I missed it. Scrolling up.
- Molly
Molly--quite right. I was talking economics, but I do of course agree with you that one's overall happiness isn't contingent on wealth. Poverty of spirit can exist anywhere, and we can reach out to help with that, as well.
- Kathy Fitch
Oh, here it is: "How is it ok that children get extra credit for bringing toilet paper to school? Why is shutting down a library to save on budget costs acceptable? Why are the teachers getting paid so low? In this country, where anyone can be whatever they want to be, why are they not able to reach their full potentials? Can you imagine if every child were to get equal educational...
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- Mona Nomura
If you want to know why public education (often) often sucks, read http://www.johntaylorgatto.com
- Victor Panlilio
Oh, and I do agree with you about the importance of family, neighbors, and neighborhood, Molly. Government tries to be the formalized, organized, centralized expression of that kind of caring, but too often fails quite utterly at it, and is, in any case, no replacement for the human touch.
- Kathy Fitch
I agree Kathy. Mona, I didn't miss it. You missed my answer so I'll reword and repeat it. How is bringing TP to school good for a child's academic performance? How can they get a grade or credit for it? Libraries aren't supposed to be government funded, except in a limited fashion concerning civics education. Want a library? Donate your money, not other people's in the form of taxation.
- Molly
But WHY should it be up to the community to put supply the public educational system when we are one of the TOP nations in the WORLD when it comes to funds allocated per student? Why is it OK that one of the most important public entities of this amazing country I love so much ignored? And WHY are we paying so much taxes to fund these corrupt officials? It is unacceptable that because...
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- Mona Nomura
Our government wasn't constructed to get people to 'reach their full potential'. It was an alignment of individual nation-states for economic reasons. If your nation-state wants to give all the producers' money to non-producers, have at it. Don't come running to my state when the producers come here to get away from over taxation, though. :-) Again, our government was never intended to...
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- Molly
But don't you see, there are many who are not given that "equal opportunity" because our system is corrupt.
- Mona Nomura
I will give you an example: Earlier I was in Bushwick (Brooklyn). Out of the blue, some woman yells at me: "Hey China girl, we speak English here." That is the epitome of failure of our country and system.
- Mona Nomura
Mona I didn't understand that last about your mother. Please rephrase? So you want less money to administration and more to students/teachers? We finally agree on something. :-)
- Molly
I am not saying pay more taxes, I am talking about full on reform. I am talking about rethinking the entire model of how to allocate OUR tax dollars to properly give every person in this country a chance to educate themselves so in 2009, we do not have people saying, out of the blue, "Hey China girl, we speak English here."
- Mona Nomura
Our system is corrupt because we've given it too much power. Take away some of that funding/power and the greedy will leave for greener pastures. Were you speaking Chinese when the woman yelled at you? (Not that excuses rudeness nor applies to any discussion as that's an isolated incident- I'm blonde. Heard any good dumb blonde jokes lately?) btw, I collect blonde jokes. I love letting people think I'm a dumb big boobed blonde then smokin' 'em in a debate. I'm evil, I know........ heh
- Molly
I am not Chinese and I was with black people.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, why not give you (and everyone else) back your own money and let you educate yourself as you say? Why sift it through layer after layer of bureaucracy, each layer taking a swipe @ the whole until you're left w/cents instead of the original dollars? btw, you're off of academic education and talking social education. Something I whole heartedly oppose. I'm a fundamentalist Christian...
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- Molly
Mona, I agree with you. I've worked with foundations, and I strongly prefer those who fund local nonprofits. I've talked with those who fund over seas at conferences, and its always a hard conversation for me. I understand funding overseas, I just don't understand ignoring our own backyard. I've talked to teenagers who didn't think they would survive to be 20 due to gangs in their lives...
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- Rachel Lea Fox
Molly: I do not understand what you mean -- but for you to ask if I was speaking Chinese in lieu of recognizing the ignorance of "China girl", speaks for itself. :) And Rachel, I try my hardest to do what I can, but knowing what I know and seeing the things I have seen, I can not help but to want to make a bigger impact and give as many as I can hope, not just a handful that I come...
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- Mona Nomura
Rock on
- michelle lamar
Mona, now don't start insulting me please. I asked a relevant question considering what you said the woman yelled at you. I've not even looked at your profile so needed context for the woman's declaration. As for being the first in their families to graduate high school, why are you blaming government for not doing what the parents/local charities/neighborhood should be doing? It's not...
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- Molly
And, I'm getting tired of this discussion because it frustrates me to have people act like the government has money of it's own. It don't. Any money the government has it took from someone who earned it's pocket. Look at your paycheck. See those little boxes that diminishes the dollar amount? That's government @ work and most of what they take from you goes into a bureaucrat's pocket, not your favorite charity, local school, etc....Night. (hugs)
- Molly
Did I insult you? I just made an observation. If you were insulted, that sounds like a personal problem, frankly. :) But more importantly: why, in 2009, are ignorant statements like taht ok? What do you think makes a person blurt out a statement like that, completely unprovoked? The answers to those questions are the answer to what is wrong with this country. And Molly -- if you saw...
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- Mona Nomura
I would like to point out that not everyone has a large network of family, friends and neighbors for support. Tad and I have been pretty much on our own since we got together and started a family. The first two places we lived (when we were living off about 2x minimum wage) we had no family or friends to help us do anything. It was very tough. We moved to Phoenix after my mom, but she...
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- Lindsay
...i just want to say, of Americans: WE ARE THE WORLD! We are the children. We are the ones who make a brighter day, so let's start living...
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"Molly: I do not understand what you mean -- but for you to ask if I was speaking Chinese in lieu of recognizing the ignorance of "China girl", speaks for itself. :)" Speaks how? If it wasn't an insult intending to lob a backhanded 'you're a bigot/racist' at me, what was the statement intended as? I'm calling you on that one. Ignorant statements like that aren't okay and have absolutely...
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- Molly
starving people? here?? ;P
- Anthony Citrano
I've seen with my own eyes how the poor live. I live it myself. How many times do I have to say that and in how many ways do I have to remind you I've BEEN there where you're describing? I do believe I mentioned (several times) that if the extended family and/or local community is unable/unwilling to step up to help a family out, there are regional and even national charities available....
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- Molly
Thank god.
- Mona Nomura
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I used to be a Libertarian and then I woke up and realized that there are people who just can't take care of themselves and charity just doesn't cut it. How about we take the same amount of money that the government is already taking in and put it toward things that actually make a difference for the people HERE? Instead of asking people to pay more taxes or taxes + donations to...
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- Lindsay
It's not that they can't take care of themselves, they are in environments where they do not know they can. Get up and move? Move where? Armed with what?
- Mona Nomura
Agreed - there are a lot of social boundaries that are difficult to cross. Ignorance is a big obstacle to lots of things. People don't know what resources or options are available to them, and they lack the skills (training through education) to be able to seek them out. A lot of them just resign themselves to their situation simply because they don't really know any way out of it or can't do simple things like afford clothes that are nice enough to wear in an office job.
- Lindsay
And the greedy myopic decision maker -- from voters to our government (state, local, and federal) is one of the reason why reform is so difficult. NOTHING makes me angrier than education and awareness (men included). :(
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Education and awareness make you angrier than men do?
- Jim Norris
Yes. Men are so simple.
- Mona Nomura
Are we now? But what makes you angry about awareness? And why do you think that we owe Americans suffering from lack of clean water more than we owe anyone else in the world who's suffering from just as much deprivation?
- Jim Norris
Yes, men are, but that's irrelevant. The topic digressed into education and education reform is a subject that I can not discuss without getting emotional. As for your questions. 1. I do not like discussing topics about awareness, since there are many that for whatever reason, turn a blind eye or refuse to believe certain truths about our country. i.e. living conditions . As for clean...
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- Mona Nomura
from IM
Robert, Folks get up in arms about FB changes because they inevitably make things more difficult and less transparent (not to mention less logical, less attractive, etc.). Here, the changes make the thing more nimble--and it was already pretty gosh darned nimble.
- Kathy Fitch
Well, there's no hard-and-fast rule that conversation threads need to stay relevant! But I understand that these are very emotionally fraught issues. There are definitely issues with the living conditions of some people in this country. What I'm wondering is how we justify caring more about people living within this nation's borders than we do about those outside of them. The...
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- Jim Norris
And one of the biggest problems is, when uncultured, uninformed people try to help save the world, they at times do more harm than good -- especially since they are so set in their views in lieu of opening their minds to see things from the other side. It's not about "Quick omg we need to help, let's do x and x", it's about long term solutions without disrupting the peace. No one is saying one should care more about the other. It's more about "Hey, let's not forget we have MAJOR domestic issues, too."
- Mona Nomura
from IM
I don't think that greedy myopia is unique to government though; I think it's a feature of most organizations over a certain size and complexity, when it becomes difficult to evaluate success in the short term and people start to have personal ambitions that are opposed to the goals of the organizations themselves. I see the same thing in businesses too; the public and private sectors just come up with different mechanisms for enforcing some measure of accountability.
- Jim Norris
Oh I definitely agree with that -- our economy and a lot of failed corporations are due to greedy individuals. Is it human nature that makes us this way? Or are we products of our (capitalistic) society?
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Yeah, people seeking shortsighted solutions often end up being less effective than they could be. But there's a legitimate question there, and there are significant and troubling tradeoffs that have to be made: how much effort (in the form of time and money and lives) do we spend defending victims in Darfur versus children in the US who lack health insurance?
- Jim Norris
Or education, since we spend significant dollar amounts *on* education. I think it's more of a bigger picture issue. How can we re-think our system to better our country? What do we need to do? How do get the public involved? To actually care?
- Mona Nomura
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I'm not sure you can blame the state of the economy on greedy individuals, in the sense that there have always been greedy individuals, and there probably always will be, and so as a political society it is not within the realm of possibility to eliminate greed in individuals. Yes, it's their fault, but recognizing that doesn't prevent the problem from occurring. The real question is,...
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- Jim Norris
Education. That's what it's all about. Teaching the public to become critical thinkers, to make informed decisions in any and all situations.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
We do spend a ton of money on education with rather mediocre results. The first question I'd ask is why are the results in the U.S. anomalously low compared to other similarly developed countries? I don't know much about education policy, so I'm just talking out of my ass at this point, but part of the problem is that the balance of power between federal, state, and local governments...
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- Jim Norris
Mona: "Teaching the public to become critical thinkers" - that's not what public education does. See http://www.johntaylorgatto.com
- Victor Panlilio
Jim: See "The Underground History of American Education" at http://www.johntaylorgatto.com
- Victor Panlilio
Jim - all of those are extremely valid questions and dependent on the person answering's background, the answers would most likely differ. My number one question lies simply with checks and balances. And Victor - thanks for those links, I'll check them out. I have to sleep now, so good night all.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
At some point there's a fundamental question of what the purpose of government (generally, and in particular for the U.S.) should be. Is it just a legal agreement that gives up certain limited rights (e.g. to vigilante justice) in order to provide for the common defense and protection of human liberties? Or does it represent a more humanistic view of the U.S. as a society who is...
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- Jim Norris
See, women are simple too... I start talking, and they suddenly have to go to sleep. Maybe it's just me.
- Jim Norris
Touché, Jim, but it's actually *really* simple. It's called EST and 3am! I'll answer in the morning. Thanks for your input, your thought provoking comments are always more than welcome. :)
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Ok, I await your response. I suppose for the good of the Feed I should catch some sleep too. Otherwise you won't get any exciting new features/bugs to waste your time with tomorrow. G'night!
- Jim Norris
Speaking of links, education, and our current economic situation, see http://tinyurl.com/dhxt7s, a thought-provoking critique of MBA education and the extreme narcissism it creates
- Victor Panlilio
Victor, it's probably not only MBA programs themselves that are to blame (although many executive MBA programs, in particular, aren't exactly academically rigorous), but also the general willingness of so many organizations to value that degree over experience. A degree should be one piece of the puzzle when evaluating candidates, but shouldn't be the thing that trumps all other characteristics.
- Kathy Fitch
Secret No More: Revealing Windows XP Mode for Windows 7 - SuperSite Blog - http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs...
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"...users can run Windows XP-based applications (like IE 6) alongside Windows 7 applications under a single desktop."
- Alan Le
Alan, isn't this like the compatibility layer that Apple used when migrating people from OS9 to OSX? Even still, great if it frees Microsoft from the burden of backward compatibility.
- Sprague D
yep, I think it's virtualization similar to what apple did for the OSX jump.
- Alan Le
Screen Recordings Made Easy with GoView - http://www.webappers.com/2009...
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Cleaner FriendFeed (New Beta) - 04/06/09 | userstyles.org - http://userstyles.org/styles...
Denya, maxilprof, Business Blogger 【ツ】™ and 205 other people liked this
Changelog: -- removed the grey background -- removed the bar background and made it subtle -- some font size changes -- some spacing adjustments -- select text background changed
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
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* Cleaner and cool look and feel (FriendFeed is already clean, this makes it a lot cleaner) * Different font style * Highlights friends comments with baby yellow (instantly know that the user is already your friend) * Highlights your comments with baby blue (it’s cool to see your own comments from river of comments. Looks good when you are a distance away your computer, makes your...
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- AJ Batac (/-_-)
yay!
- mjc
This userstyle brings the FriendFeed conversation to another level by instantly letting you know… 1) Your own comment (Powder Blue) 2) Your friends comments (Light Yellow) 3) Your non-friends comments (Normal FriendFeed Comment Color) 4) Likes (Light Pink)
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
As FriendFeed becomes popular, you’ll definitely need some kind of instant and attention grabbing color that catches your eyes and tell you where you left off in a conversation. Hope you like it.
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
Well THAT didn't take long.
- tehKenny
MUCH better :-)
- andy brudtkuhl
Congrats aj.
- Alp
you legend. :)
- Zee.
THANK YOU!
- Rochelle
Installed and liking... wish the font was a tad bigger but I can adjust that :)
- Bwana ☠
could you block the logo also?
- mjc
installing - lovely- although there is something in having the "main area" diff. from the rest of the screen as in the original design - must play and see what works better for me
- Naor Mark
That's much better, thanks AJ
- Sally Church
Good work!
- Rich
mjc, it won't look good. but you can use this (#logo img { display:none !important; })
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
That looks much better! Maybe the FF devs can adopt that scheme.
- Lindsay
really clean and cool.
- Jansen Lu
That was fast man!
- JazJaz
wow thanks aj
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
that looks much better
- RAPatton
thank U
- Andrea | amnesiak1978
Damn, AJ...fast work! Awesome as usual! :)
- JA Castillo
great - hate the grey!
- Gaby K. Slezák
thank U
- Andrea | amnesiak1978
wow that was fast... I don't mind the gray, but this is a nice option for those complainers who don't
- Nathan Chase
Switched already and I'm lovin' this script - much nicer!
- Sally Church
I cleaned it up further. If you've downloaded it already, edit and change this line (.bar {border:none !important; background:none !important;background-color:#C8DCF5 !important;}) ;) much better without those borders on bars ;)
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
(too lazy for looking up the line - re-installed :)
- Naor Mark
Same as Naor, but yeah it is nicer :-)
- Sally Church
this is fantastic - loving life with a #112 body :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Wow AJ, nice job. I hope FF takes notice.
- Andrew Smith
AJ that was fast!
- Susan Beebe
Much better AJ!
- AJ Kohn
Wow. Nice. Thank you!
- Ken Sheppardson
I can't tell... are you mimicking the effect of the little yellow halo around the comment bubble when it's inserted into a page you're viewing? Ah... there it is... the halo's still there. Might be nice to have the entire comment's color fade. Skill Level 2.0 ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Thanks AJ!
- Shey
I love the comment HIGHLIGHT COLORS - blue = mine :) Friends = yellow = cool!!! thanks
- Susan Beebe
@Susan Wasn't that apart of the beta already?
- Shey
@Shey, nope.
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
Wow, this style is gorgeous! Blows the default beta away. Still no fan of fixed-width but if devs go with this style and the new functionality, it's enough win for me.
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@robot, here's one for you -> Widescreen version (http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajbatac...) or fluid/liquid
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
Widescreen...for...the....WIN
- Bwana ☠
I do wish links were in a different colour or <strong>
- Shey
How cool is this!
- Charlie Anzman
WOW tnx I love it
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
this is great. thanks!
- Peter van Teeseling
Made it use Segoe UI pt 11, and looks much better :D
- Yuvi
This is much more visually appealing. You rock!
- Justin Whitaker
I really like this. Thank you, good sir.
- Brandon Ball
OMG AJ, this is SO MUCH better! Thank you!
- Phil Glockner
Someone make this a sticky. :)
- JazJaz
That's way better! Thanks a bunch :)
- Maryam Ardakani
Awesome AJ! But what took you so long?
- Edward Zwart
♥♥♥♥♥ Thanks!!
- Pixie
I switched to Firefox just to use your layout - it helps.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
free to modify, free to whatever you want to do with it. ;)
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
hey dude you got mentioned in the read write web http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
@alfredo, Thanks.
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is wonderful in FireFox
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Thank you, AJ, you rock!
- Michelle M
Awesome!! I'm using it right now.
- Mark Layton
Gosh, that's better, thanks for the Beta FF version - I've been used CleanerFF since using FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
This is VERY nice. Well done!
- Tony
@wiredryo You really like colors? I find them distracting and cheap-looking. Just my style though, maybe. I like minimalism.
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WOO-HOO! Now THAT is more like it!
- Steven Perez
That's wonderful. Thank you!
- joey
Even cleaner without avatars in the feed: http://userstyles.org/styles...
- Meryn Stol
Really enjoying the Cleaner FF. By the popularity of this thread, I'm assuming many are not really happy with the gray background and colored sidebar boxes.
- Ricardo Vidal
I personally have not much trouble with the new color scheme. Try removing the avatars, they are really noisy. Just try to experience the difference.
- Meryn Stol
colored and + fontsized the post titles, as i prefer to catch the posts rather then the comments, it really works.
- Yunus Tunak
http://beta.friendfeed.com/ for new look
- Yunus Tunak
Feels so much better.
- Valley
I changed the background for #f8f8fc because it doesn't look as good when it's just as white as the main column. Having it an off-white like that is a lot nicer. Just a suggestion.
- Chris Charabaruk
Also, I turned off highlighting of friend comments (although not my own) because you all chat too much. :)
- Chris Charabaruk
this is awesome. thanks so much!
- Karoli
great! i disliked beta's grey background. :-)
- browneyes
Much better! I don't mind the constant flow, but wasn't a fan of the new design.
- Vince DeGeorge
Done. and loving it. Thanks AJ!
- Dave
AJ, you da man! I like it very much. :)
- imabonehead
I tweaked it so all it really did was get rid of the gray background, but left the font sizes and colors alone. Now it looks REALLY good to me. Will screenshot it now. Thanks, AJ!
- Josh Haley
Using this now... soooo much better! :D
- Brandon
love it! seems better!
- Business Blogger 【ツ】™
very nice, thanks :D
- PaperDoll
wow, just installed this, way better!
- Marcos Marado
I agree! I think I like this much better. The Gray background was getting to me.
- Kreg Steppe
Still prefer the post options from the 'old' freindfeed interface - they were out front & more available for on-the-fly, intuitive changing
- awd
@Aaron, I like the new one better. ;)
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
Great job, AJ. Soooo much better. I hope that FF notices that we like their original clean design better and incorporate it into beta again so that I don't need a script for this.
- Carmen
Updated: For widescreen monitors (http://userstyles.org/styles...) / Normal width (http://userstyles.org/styles...)
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
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