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and when you post you're fairly certain it's going to show up :) - John Duff

I'm definitely becoming a huge FriendFeed fan, but not everyone is here, so I think Twitter will remain essential. Plus, how complex would FriendFeed have to get to be configurable to the point where I could get chat or IM updates for only certain kinds of feeds for only certain users (and be able to reply appropriately) and have that tie in with my hiding filters? - LogEx

Interesting, so you want to get friendfeed through IM and be able to interact with the posts (replies or comments) with IM as well? You can already configure things so you're only getting posts you want from each user, the api respects those choices (afik). So building an IM bot for friendfeed is what you want to do, Jabber based IM probably wouldn't be too hard to get the feed. Difficult part would be posting a comment to a friendfeed post. Very cool idea. - John Duff

@John -- there already is a bot to do most of this, the Mojipage bot. - Trent Olson

And then of course SMS is the next step (but as we dumb down to more compact protocols, usability decreases). Or maybe SMS will be so 2007 when the iPhone supports chat native ;-) - LogEx

I'm not into FF nor Plurk, yet, but it seems like they offer an easier way to thread conversations that twitter doesn't have. - Mario Sundar

@Mario...I'd recommend spending some time with ff, but steering clear of Plurk - Trent Olson

I am liking the comments threading on Friend Feed, but it feels like conversations get lost somehow too. - John F Morton

I've noticed that, despite having 500 followers on Twitter, no-one responds to anything I say!! But here on Friendfeed, I get instant replies - and quality replies (which is important). Twitter has too much noise. - Mark O'Neill

I think that FriendFeed and Twitter were both built for different purposes. A lot of people use Twitter so they can keep in touch with friends. On FriendFeed, I think it's more of a website where you share and discuss content. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

I think yesterdays coverage of WWDC here on FF pretty much rubber stamped FF's position, no? - Roberto Bonini

ff feels like a mashup of pownce functionality with the benefit of aggregating lots of other streams. I think it misses some of the conversation with the cloud aspects of twitter. As for everyone not being here - that's part of the reason there is more response, you can actually notice when someone says something not just watch the stream go by in a blur. - Phillip J. Zannini from twhirl

I would rather not use FF messages for Twitter-like statuses. If I stick to Twitter for status messages, then other FF users can choose to block those if they want. - Morton Fox

@John - The Mojipage Bot allows you to select noise level, enter different discuss rooms and posting to FF.The Mojipage widget also have the 'like' and 'comment' feature for posting FF too! For more informations you can go to http://mojipage.com/pages/bot/ - Aelvin Han

Steve - discussions are much easier to follow and come back to later on on FF; its one major reason why I'm becoming a more dedicated FF user - Ron Emrick from Alert Thingy

100% agree. Twitter represents a great initial idea that resulted in an effective one-way loop. FriendFeed is poised to be the fruition of the RESPONSE to all those posted thoughts. An actual discussion. A true loop. Potentially also FF might just be a service to corner the market on all web discussion. Jus' sayin. - Steve Isaacs

I was a late joiner to twitter- fellow marketer turned me onto it, and I enjoyed it, but never got the large discussions that happened here *immediately*- and realy enjoy the filtering and weighting that goes on. - anna sauce

FF definitely has more info and less extraneous stuff. Information content vs chatter. - Robin Whitson

I'm pulling for FF to do well, but I've spent time on twitter and I know the people there. hard to leave it. - Rob Williams

Like Morton, I'm still inclined to post status messages to ff from another source so they can be parsed/blocked, but I'm trying out gTalk to replace tweets. Thinking the only con to doing that is twitter habits I can quickly get over. - Dan Covington

The signal-to-noise ratio at FF is heaps higher than Twitter, and it is a good balance between having temporal conversations (late-breaking news, etc.) vs. information worth archiving.. - Wil

We need to start FriendFeed meetups now to take the place of TUB meetups :-) - Duncan Riley

agree - Max Niederhofer

agree - and it's the threading, searching, flexibility that makes FF a winner for me - Anthony Citrano

out of interest steve, what client do you use for FF? still finding alertthingy too chatty on the UI side - steve clayton from twhirl

@Scott I have 3200 following me here and another 1500 via RSS. On Twitter I have north of 7000 followers. So you are right this is an issue. One possible idea is to run the whole lifestream or just the FF portion (http://friendfeed.com/steveru...) through Twitterfeed. That way people can follow my stuff there if they want to. - Steve Rubel

I understand what you're saying, Steve, but I still think FF needs an easier interface. Checking the website all the time is a drag. - Ed Healy

@Ed RSS! - Steve Rubel

That's interesting. The comment threads are definitely easier to read on FriendFeed though. - GerryBot

@Steve, I'm with you, but even RSS can't compensate for Twitter's ease of use. There is something to be said for the ability to get short IM-like messages in a timeline, rather than threaded vis-a-vis FF. If FF had a twhirl-like client interface it would be an easy substitution. Right now, it's not. - Ed Healy

/me loves his FF, though. :) - Ed Healy

Twitter seems to be more a right now kind of service, where FF brings all recent content into view. I guess they both have their uses, but which is more ideal is anyone's guess - Derek Schauland from twhirl

I'd be open to trying that for sure. I'm sure we could plug the feed for our FF pages into Snackr, literally. Don't know how well it would render tho. - Marshall Kirkpatrick

i'd love to see friendfeed like a ticker - Morgan

tried snackr at work... not good caught myself starring at the feed - amarquart

I already use friendfeed like a ticker using twhirl - Kingsley Joseph

Yeah I think the FF feed into Snackr might lose value. Just looking at twhirl's FF output, made me realize that is more of an updating stream that should scroll. - Tris Hussey

friendfeed bot at Mojipage works for me... - Aelvin Han

if MySocial 24x7 Firefox sidebar would allow me to configure an auto-refresh, it would be perfect. - Sarah Perez

But it can lead to bigger to do lists :) - funkyboy from Posty

funny - I used snackr and since Friendfeed is there I just read my RSS there in Alertthingy - Dieter Schwarz from Alert Thingy

I just updated the URL above to include explanations of it, look for it at the end of the page. - Wil

BTW entries that are hidden in FF will not be sent to you. So, if you're finding a lot of noise (maybe you're following loads of people), it may be time to update your FF noise filter. - Wil

Giving it a test now. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

I'm going offline soon. If you find any issues with the bot, you may try silencing it by saying "/noise off". Please send any comments my way, thanks! - Wil

So far so good Wil...I like it - Trent Olson

2 suggestions: 1) is it possible to include a command that will list the last X number of posts in your feed? Already I've lost track of what post_id this feed is, so I had to go back to the web to comment on it. 2) I don't suppose there's a way to make a hide command? If I remember, that's not in the ff api yet. - Trent Olson

1) Yes, I do plan to add that. 2) You're right, no "hide" support in the API - Wil

Hmm I get a "Encountered unknown error" when try to authorize.. And now a "Unabel to contact FriendFeed". - Leandro Ardissone ⍨

This is very cool. Logged into gtalk and got bombarded. Wonder if this is close to what Scoble and Gillmor are looking for. - Mark Trapp

Uh oh. Here we go. - Bwana ☠

@Mark that's only for noise level 1 ;-) Seriously, though, i'm sorry for turning this on without notice, i thought the default noise level will not generate much traffic. What I forgot to take into account is that the people using the bot are also the most active FF users. - Wil

/noise always says "Noise level has been set to "None"" no matter what level I use. - Jason Wehmhoener

@Jason - somehow the bot was not subscribed to your status, so it couldn't do its job. If you just send a message to it now, it should request to add you, and depending on your client you may or may not have to authorize it. Once that's done, it should work. Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for the bug report!! - Wil

I think the default should be noise level 0 to be honest. It keeps resetting back to 1 and annoying me! - Phil G

It resets because I restarted the bot. I just did it again, this time following your advice to make it level 0 by default. So, for those who actually do want the noise, please do a "/noise up" to turn it back on. - Wil

Yay! I needed to do a /who to get the bot to add me to its contact list and now I am happy getting /noise 2. So cool. :-) - Jason Wehmhoener

Glad it's working out for you :) - MojiPage

web. - Thomas Hawk

Sometimes with the bookmarklet (wrapped into a K-Meleon macro) and sometimes with FFeedVim. - Morton Fox

From FFtogo with my mobile, from IM, from web - Ben Borges

twhirl and web - Dobromir Hadzhiev from twhirl

Right now, FFtogo and web - Bwana ☠

FF site. how do you post with IM, Ben? - Benjamin Kudria

webpage and feedalizr (demo)...via feedalizr - thomas elton

Add friendfeed@imified.com to your jabber/gtalk buddy list and send it a message to try it out. - Ben Borges

Thanks, Ben. I shared the link to IMified's blog entry where they described the feature. - Morton Fox

@ben, thats pretty cool. too bad they don't have a posted via IM thing so people know - Tyler Gillies

webpage/browser (bookmarklet), iphone, and occasionally alertthingy - Brett Kelly

Browser for everything. - Mike Fruchter

webpage and bookmarklet - Batona

bookmarklet, webpage and Twhirl - Duncan Riley from twhirl

mostly FFtogo & some Twhirl - Thomas Ho from fftogo

Bookmarklet - Russellreno

Web and Bookmarklet. - Tom Mulrooney

Try the im@mojipage.com Jabber/Gtalk bot - Wil

FF site & Bookmarklet - Mostafa.Gh

Forgot to mention that MojiPage http://mojipage.com/ also supports any mobile phone with a web browser with our FF widget. - Wil

In order Web, AlertThingy and moving onto FFTOGO for when I am moving and shaking! - Joe Dawson

@joe what phone do you use to move and shake? - Tyler Gillies

What? Is there even desktop client for FF? I haven't heard of it yet... :P - Daniel Schildt

I mainly use main website (and sometimes from official Facebook application of this service). - Daniel Schildt

@Tyler I have a Sony Ericsson K850i, as soon as the 3G iPhone is available though I will be upgrading to that! - Joe Dawson

desktop - Laurentiu

i want an android phone - Tyler Gillies

And from now on, I will be commenting also from iGoogle applet! - Daniel Schildt

web,im,and app - Anthony Farrior

@Wil I use Mojipage on web, mobile and IM to post to FF... - Aelvin Han

with twhirl from pc and started with Mojipage IM Bot on my mobile phone - Mathias H.

Feedalizr!!! ...and FFtoGo on Iphone - Dieter Schwarz