A Mitchell - Comments

What Happens to All the Asian-American Overachievers When the Test-Taking Ends? - http://nymag.com/news...

May 17 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"Hsieh didn’t have to conform to Western standards of comportment because he adopted early on the Western value of risk-taking. Growing up, he would play recordings of himself in the morning practicing the violin, in lieu of actually practicing. He credits the experience he had running a pizza business at Harvard as more important than anything he learned in class. He had an instinctive sense of what the real world would require of him, and he knew that nothing his parents were teaching him would get him there." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet

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"It is a part of the bitter undercurrent of Asian-American life that meritocracy comes to an abrupt end after graduation." - A Mitchell

Or more specifically, the "merit" of test-taking is not so highly valued outside of school. - Paul Buchheit

The article’s characterization of Asian-Americans sounds vaguely similar to some job descriptions we might see for entry-level software engineers. In Asia. More quotes from the article: “The traits that got you to where you are won’t necessarily take you to the next level,” says the diversity consultant Jane Hyun, who wrote a book called Breaking the Bamboo Ceiling. To become a leader... more... - A Mitchell

Teeth Maestro

Facebook, Twitter and The Two Branches of Social Media [OP-ED] - http://mashable.com/2010...

October 12, 2010 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

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On Facebook, you’re supposed to connect with close friends. Becoming friends with someone means he or she gets to see your content, but you also get to see his or her content in return. On Twitter, that’s not the case: you choose what information you want to receive, and you have no obligation to follow anybody. Facebook emphasizes profiles and people, while Twitter emphasizes the actual content (in its case, tweets). - Teeth Maestro

The lack of reciprocity and its associated expectations helps make microblogging more engaging than FB. In two years, federation stands to change microblogging radically. It'll be a less hub-and-spoke universe with Twitter at the centre. - A Mitchell

Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, Appetite, TheNextWeb Forum

What is your Cliqset profile URL? Mine is http://cliqset.com/user...

January 7, 2010 - Comment - Like - Share

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Feel free to add me if you like. :-) #whatsyoururl - Kol Tregaskes

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I'm here http://cliqset.com/user... - Mark Krynsky

Thanks, Mark. Already following you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Looks like I need to tidy up my profile, lots of duplicates. :-( - Kol Tregaskes

http://cliqset.com/user... - Russellreno

Hi Kol, here's mine: http://cliqset.com/user... I'm still trying to get used to it and figuring out how to stop duplicates from appearing. - Robert Sanchez Jr

http://cliqset.com/user/....... guess what - LouCypher

http://cliqset.com/user/ibi828 feel free to add :-) - the king of the interweb

http://cliqset.com/user... - JA Castillo

http://cliqset.com/user... - Steven Perez

Is this a Friendfeed replacement? - aldenoneil

Potentially if FF needs a replacement anyway. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

http://cliqset.com/user/akiva - Akiva

http://cliqset.com/user/amir2b - amir am

http://cliqset.com/user... - I've added most of you on this list in the hopes that if we do have to move on to cliqset, it will be easier for me to transition over - Wang Yip

and don't forget to join http://cliqset.com/group... - LouCypher

http://cliqset.com/user... - Joe Bonner

I bet mine is really difficult to guess ;) http://cliqset.com/user/lph LOL - LPH™ and his dog P™

I think I'm http://cliqset.com/user... - Rah-PM 2012

http://cliqset.com/user... <-- big surprise - Louis Gray

http://cliqset.com/user... Not feeding from Twitter - to cut the noise down. Instead, from Identi.ca - which feeds here to FF - so FriendFeed isn't included either. Less is more. - A Mitchell

I agree, as Twitter has a tendency to go fail whale at times. Identi.ca on the other hand rarely does. - Robert Sanchez Jr

Important microblog posts can start on Identi.ca and go to Twitter and here to FF at the same time. Replies start and finish on Twitter. By not pulling in from Twitter here to FF and Cliqset, it keeps followers from being overloaded. Goog/Bing search better on Identi.ca and FF than Twitter, treating both as blogs versus Twitter which is *.* - A Mitchell

http://cliqset.com/user... - Justin Korn

http://cliqset.com/user... - Dan owns Comicsforge.com

Mine is http://cliqset.com/user/jopeek - Jan Ole Peek

http://cliqset.com/user... - Alejandro

http://cliqset.com/user/best6 Here is my URL - Jason

http://www.cliqset.com/user... - Holden Page

Thanks everyone. - Kol Tregaskes

sofarsoshawn ~ duh - The Real sofarsoShawn

http://cliqset.com/user... - Michael Fidler

http://cliqset.com/user/chaz2b feel free to add me too, :) - chaz2b

Feel free to add me if you like. :-) http://cliqset.com/user/yakoo - yakoo

http://cliqset.com/user/flapic but I still don't see it as a real replacement for FF - Flavio

http://cliqset/user... - Robyn Cobb

http://cliqset.com/user... but not quite sure what to do with it yet - Tinfoil 2.0

http://cliqset.com/user/ciwz - ciw

I am not there yet - maybe tomorrow :->) - Steve Cleary

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

http://cliqset.com/user... can't remember my password though - chrisofspades

Oops, don't they have a 'forgot password' option, Chris? - Kol Tregaskes

http://cliqset.com/user... I hadn't heard much about it until now. Seems to be a FF clone. - Louis Trapani

http://cliqset.com/user... - Bryan R. Adams

Anyone still use cliqset? Or has Pip.io become a better alternative? :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I have some service pushing to cliqset but never really used it. Subscribed to pip.io some time ago and never got back... is it worth? My favorite service (even though is not an aggregator) is amplify.com, great for conversations! - Flavio

Might be worth bumping this now Cliqset 2.0 is out. It looks very FriendFeed-like. Check the video: http://www.vimeo.com/12918925 - Kol Tregaskes

http://cliqset.com/ronin - ronin

Anyone using Cliqset? Join in with a roll-call here: http://cliqset.com/koltreg... - Kol Tregaskes

Here is me: http://cliqset.com/svartling - Svartling

Bump. - Kol Tregaskes

http://cliqset.com/jslefanu - JSLeFanu

Charlie Anzman

Wait I'm Lost ..... Am I on Friendfeed?

July 10, 2010 - Comment - Like - Share

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No...this is Facebook's new UI - Scoble, Alex Scoble

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Thanks Alex ... So many networks ... so little time :) - Charlie Anzman

Which is why I'm not promiscuous - Scoble, Alex Scoble

Rumor you're coming to the Bay Area ... is that true? (Saw a blinking sign on the freeway) - Charlie Anzman

Indeed...August 13th through the 23rd. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

Where are you at, Charlie? - Scoble, Alex Scoble

Lately ... mostly here in Pennsylvania ... Not traveling as much as I used to. Busy! Would love to be there and (very) long overdue for a trip to the Bay area ... too long - Charlie Anzman

WTF? You are in PA? Damn...I'm sure I knew that, but wish I had known that when I did that PA trip for work in January or whenever it was. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

*waves at Charlie* - Anika

Wait - Charlie is on Friendfeed? Oh hai, Charlie! - WoH: Minding her Botts

Hey all ... Did I miss anything ?? .... Alex ... If you were close by ... I'm gonna ... well .. ugh ... where were you (It's kinda a big place ?! :) - Charlie Anzman

I was down town...near where Thomas Jefferson penned the declaration of independence. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

Cool spot ... ugh ... about 2 hours from here ... Lots of history throughout the state - Charlie Anzman

Please do post your Google Voice number, Charlie. I would spam it. - Louis Gray

For you Louis .... maybe - Charlie Anzman

Filter ON ... DND ON ... GV 570-832-4643 ... Please only call if you pay your bills and are already convinced that I know what I'm talking about (or are related to Alex Scoble in some way) - Charlie Anzman

I suppose next I have to post a Cinch - Charlie Anzman

hahaha alex =) first comment is brilliant. - Özgür D. Cyric

I am so used to seeing you on Buzz - welcome to Facefeed! - Martha

Hi Martha ... actually it's a return engagement ... Was here in the beginning and for a long time .... Still Buzzing too :) - Charlie Anzman

Wait! Is Charlie back again? :) - WoH: Minding her Botts

No - Charlie Anzman

Oh. Carry on then. - WoH: Minding her Botts

My credit card number is 487-2871-009 -- wait -- no. Thought this was Amazon. - A Mitchell

Paul Buchheit

Europe's Web of Debt - http://www.nytimes.com/interac...

May 10, 2010 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"Italy owes France $511 billion, or nearly 20 percent of the French gross domestic product." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet

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Tick, tock... tick, tock... tick, tock... - RAPatton

CW, as a percentage of GDP we will achieve Greece levels, but we have advantages that they do not have, like the ability to devalue our debt by printing money - RAPatton

RAP, how exactly are we capable of devaluing our debt, our debt is external, printing more money reduces the value of the dollar, and in effect makes debt more costly per dollar. Overall, the debt value doesn't change. If we were borrowing from ourselves that would be great, but that's not how it works. - Jimminy, CoG of FF

So basically Britain, France and Germany have huge accounts receivable. - Kevin Fox

CW, here is one infographic, http://www.billshrink.com/blog..., I'm looking for another that I've seen that shows the breakdown of US by country. - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Someone is a Star Trek fan. - τorƍue

wow... scary numbers there - Susan Beebe

well we do participate in an economic and monetary union in Europe, we are part of a common market with strong mutual ties: it makes sense that some level of internal indebtedness is part of the picture. If you think at Europe as a subject I think the perspective get a little different: problem is Europe itself has a problem at this regard, hence the hesitant mood in addressing the... more... - Aldo Oldo

"US President Barack Obama, in particular, is likely to be very tempted to fire up the money printing presses and, by devaluing the currency, to reduce the real burden of liabilities the United States has accumulated. Because foreign investors in China and Japan hold a large share of America's debts, they would be more adversely affected by depreciation than the Americans themselves." -- http://www.spiegel.de/interna... - RAPatton from iPhone

At least it's not owed to China. WIN on that fact. - The Real sofarsoShawn

Not owed to China the country, but definitely owed to investors in China, which is kinda similar. - Mr. Gunn

For perspective, US debt is $13 trillion (compared to the $3.9 trillion owed by these 5 countries). - Mitchell Tsai

RAP, unfortunately, before we can really do that, the Yuan has to be revalued, currently it is tightly coupled to the USD and they hold the lion's share. It also doesn't help the cost of imports, if you devalue to far, you hurt the consumers and businesses. - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Jimminy, it would force them to decouple if they still were, because otherwise they will take an even worse beating; I'm not saying this is ideal. Anyone who has assets inthe US will get hurt, but it is a tool the US can use more than other nation states - RAPatton from iPhone

That's true, but devaluation is almost like a nuclear option, at this point. - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Unfortunately, it will be of an arsenal of tools used; the future obligations of the state are too large and the easiest way out for politicians will include devaluation, because not only will it reduce the debt the obligations will become instantly smaller until they raise them again - RAPatton from iPhone

for more perspective into Southern Europe debt burden - count it "per capita", bring in (lack of) own resources to actually pull it out of trouble, count in (traditional) tendency in south to hide profits... sounds more creepy, right? - A. T.

US Federal Tax Revenue: $2.1 trillion, Largest budget items: $771 billion Medicare, $686 billion Social Security, $668 billion War, $194 billion Interest, $192 billion Federal Pensions - and we're already $411 billion over budget without paying for anything else! Good thing this isn't my budget... Medicare/Social Security HAVE to be tackled sometime, but no one wants to. See real-time US National Debt Clock http://usdebtclock.org - Mitchell Tsai

Mitchell, those are all Billions., and the Tax Revenue is $2.1 Trillion, even worse. - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Thanks Jimminy. My Bad... I was in a rush to mow my parent's lawn & made a stupid mistake... Thanks for fixing it. - Mitchell Tsai

@Mitchell Tsai - The eqivalent number on that website is the ~$3.8 trillion "US debt held by foreign countries". I'd imagine that would compare quite well to whatever the whole-of-EU number is. Also, it doesn't take into account foreign debt held by the US. - Nick Lothian

Nick - If you can find the "US debt to foreigners" - "Foreign debt to US" that would be a cool number to know. The big picture is much tougher though. How much of US companies & real estate do foreigners own? My parents were born in Taiwan, but have lived in the US since 1963 (57 years) - Do they count as foreigners? - Mitchell Tsai

If you care about this, note that the US Treasury has a way to reduce the debt: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt... "You can make a contribution online either by credit card, checking or savings account at Pay.gov or You can write a check payable to the Bureau of the Public Debt, and in the memo section, notate that it's a Gift to reduce the Debt Held by the Public" - Nick Lothian

@Mitchell - I can't find debt owed to the US anywhere. The closest I can find is "Stock of direct foreign investment - abroad", which is "value of all investments in foreign countries made directly by residents - primarily companies.. excluding shares". That value for the US is ~$3.2 trillion. - Nick Lothian

Thanks Nick... Seems like from your searching that perhaps US debt to foreigners ($3.8 trillion) and Foreign debt to US ($3.2 trillion) might be roughly even... - Mitchell Tsai

Mitchell, in July of '09 US external debt, what we owe to other countries was $13.45 trillion. - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Europe's Web of Debt = American dollars value is going up : ) - Locksmith Los Angeles

France seems overexposed. So, if you wanted to buy real estate in french riviera, wait couple of years? - солнышок

Well I think it's time that Britain called in it's debts, maybe then I might get taxed a little less. - Toby Graham

Under the spreading chestnut tree, I sold you and you sold me... - Morton Fox

Does the NYT graphic show public-sector debt? Private sector debt? Or both? And what difference does this make? - A Mitchell

Eric

Name Louis Gray's baby on the way thread. Go! http://blog.louisgray.com/2010...

March 29, 2010 - Comment - Like - Share

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Nay Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

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Earl Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Paul Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Thomas Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Gabriel Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Jesse Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

James Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Michael Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Skye Gray - LANjackal

Earl Gray (RATS! I see Jimminy beat me to it!) - Spidra Webster

URL Gray - Spidra Webster

OS X Gray - LANjackal

iPad Gray - LANjackal

Third time is the Charm Gray. :-) - Dan owns Comicsforge.com

Mike Nayyar Gray. Or, in the case of a female, Michelle Nayyar Gray. I WON'T ACCEPT LESS, GRAYS! YOU HEAR ME?! - Mike Nayyar

Mike, I put you at the very top, Nay Gray. - Jimminy, CoG of FF

@Jimminy fair enough...as long as it's the first thing the Gray's see. I'll forever be associated with their child...excellent... - Mike Nayyar

Scale...so that when his name is uttered last name first he shall be called...wait for it... Grayscale! - Mark Krynsky

Mark Gray, for the same reason as Mark pointed out, Gray, Mark. - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Buzzby Curator SUWGOMH Gray - WoH: Minding her Botts

I always thought Gray was an intriguing given name. So I vote Gray Gray. - Jandy

Or Grey Gray? - WoH: Minding her Botts

Scoble Worthington Gray - Rollin' in the LB

Mista Gray the Third - Eric

Sting Gray - Ruchira S. Datta

Hahaha! - Spidra Webster

Zane Gray. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - I know not the right spelling but ...) - AJ Kohn

Shaydzuv Gray - Spidra Webster

FriendFeed Buzz Twitter Gray - Louis Gray

Pubsubhubbub API Gray - Louis Gray

That's a bit long. How about FriBuzzTwit Gray? - Jandy

Louis will be trying to sell his wife on Pubsubhubbub in the delivery room, only she won't know it. "PuSH! PuSH!" - Bruce Lewis

Blue Gray. - Steven Perez

Brother Gray. Yes, I cheated. Congrats, btw! - Josh Haley

Mega Gray - Mo Kargas

Optimus Gray - Mo Kargas

Gandalf Gray - Mo Kargas

Grey Gray. - imabonehead

Justin Gray - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

Shey Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Glen Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Austin Powers Gray - WoH: Minding her Botts

Marion. It works both ways. - Bren

Olden Gray - SteVe C

Holden Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Spalding Gray - HAPPY VALZ DAY

Captain Spalding Gray - Spidra Webster

Jimminy is Blocked Gray - Louis Gray

*cackling at what Baroness wrote* - Spidra Webster

Mango Tater Bacon Gray. - imabonehead

A Lighter Shade of Gray - Jeff P. Henderson

Louis Gray, what did I say? - Jimminy, CoG of FF

You suggested Holden. :) - Louis Gray

It was natural, after Olden Gray. - Jimminy, CoG of FF

True. But Holden is like that awkward cousin you care about who embarrasses you at family reunions. Can't have too many more of those. - Louis Gray

LOL - Jimminy, CoG of FF

#C0C0C0 - ☆ Mellyboo ☆

Stream or River or Flow - Thomas Power

One MOE Gray - Jose Luis Santos

50% - Tinfoil 2.0

Peter - MiniMage, enterRUPPted

Jean/Gene - Anika

Minnie Gray. - The original Kevin

Ray Gray - Jimminy, CoG of FF

Louis Gray 2.0 - Stephen Mack

Philip - MiniMage, enterRUPPted

Gray family tree suggests lots of new names not mentioned above - Thomas Power

http://www.mick-gray.co.uk/Gray%20... - Thomas Power

Michael Antony Gray brn 10/10/1970 Battersea London Son of Michael Philip Gray and Sylvia Camyle Gray (nee Tetlow ) Michael Philip Gray brn. 3/5/1943 Oxford Son of Wyndham Philip Gray & Vera Doris Annie Gray (nee Taylor) Wyndham Philip Gray brn 22/5/1913 Lambeth London Son of Samson Charles Gray & Margaret Annie Gray (nee Brittle)Brettell/Brittle Mary's Homepage a one name study of... more... - Thomas Power

Crikey how many Grays are there? http://www.gray-familytree.com/ - Thomas Power

Pipio Gray - JA Castillo

Steely Gray - Ruchira S. Datta

Raymond - MiniMage, enterRUPPted

Tad - iTad

Jay - MiniMage, enterRUPPted

Lucius - MiniMage, enterRUPPted

If a girl: *.* ('Star' for short version). If a boy: Replacement ('Re' for short version). - A Mitchell

Mary Carmen

What time do you get up in the morning? What time do you get to work?

March 16, 2010 - Comment - Like - Share

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6.30; around 8.30 - Pete

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I get up around 6:10 and 7:30 I roll into work. (at least while I am getting a ride) - aden {Chickadee}

up between 6:45 & 7am, at work between 8 & 8:15 - ~Courtney F.

5:30 and I try to be at work between 8-8:30am. - Mary Carmen

HI COURTNEY!!!!! - Mary Carmen

5:30 - 8 - Mike Nencetti

Anywhere between 4 and 6 (usually the early end of that)...and what is this "get to work" you speak of? - S of 2C

I get up about 7 get to work about 8 - Sir Shuping is just sir

6:30 and 8:30 - DJF

normally, 4:45, work by 6:30 - MoTO Bott

My alarm first goes off at 6:10. I then hit the snooze button twice and finally roll out of bed around 6:30. I pull into the parking lot at work at 8. - Curdy G

Get to work around 9 usually. What time I get up depends on the sun, but the alarm is set for 7:15 as backup. - Kirsten from fftogo

7am and 7am - Joe The Sausage

4:00AM for the gym and work at 8:30 - Paulette

Up at 7, at work 8-ish. It would be considerably later if I didn't carpool w/ my sweets. Being a night owl, I prefer the morning to come *much* later. - Ayşe E.

Up at 7, at work around 8 - holly #ravingfangirl from iPhone

6 a.m.; at my desk around 7:30 a.m. - Walt Crawford

5 am, at work by 8am. - Michael R. Bernstein

Up between 6:25-6:45, to work by 8:00. - Rollin' in the LB

4am rise time, 6am arrival time. :( - Hookuh Tinypants

up at 4:45, gym 5-6ish, work at 8ish. - ellbeecee from BuddyFeed

around 4:30, back to sleep, up again at 7am. :D - AJ Batac :)

the alarm goes off at 6:45, whether or not I get up is dependent on how much I want to avoid working out. I'm to work by either 8:30 or 9:30, depending on whether or not I have an early meeting. - Jenica

On teaching days somewhere between 6:30 and 7:00. Get to work at 9am. My commute is about 1 hour and 30 minutes. - adf

If I had my druthers, up = 7:30 & at work = 8:00 -- since I wrangle kids I'm up at ~7:05, out the door at 7:30 and at work at 8 :) -- fwiw, my "commute" is 2.25 miles one way - awd

what exactly ARE "druthers"? - Joe The Sausage

up at 6:30 working at 6:31... - Kelly W.

those which I would have, if I had them... - awd

7:00-7:30AM // ~9:00AM - Jason (not an Argonaut)

5 am. - Steven Perez

morning>? at the crack of noon...and I don't work :( - HAPPY VALZ DAY

Usually around 7, though this morning I was up before 5:30. Then I usually take the 10 steps into my office around 8 or so. - Tinfoil 2.0

5:30, 8:30 - I like big Botts from iPhone

Depending on where I am, between 5:30 and 7:00. It's usually around 6:15. I usually go to work at 9:00. - ha3rvey ($10 HUGS!!!) from fftogo

I roll out around 9, do some yoga, eat some breakfast, and maybe start working around 11 or noon (I work from home). - Cassandra

6:30 to 7am and then jst before 8am to work. This is a lie-in compared to my previous jobs. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

up at 6:15 am, usually at work by 8:30 am - Elizabeth Brown

Up at 5:30 at work by 8. - The original Kevin

I get up around 5am. I get to work at 7:30. It doesn't take me all that time to get ready. I just have to get my Mom up and fed too. - Yolanda

Office days - up at 4:30, out at 4:45. Office by 5:40. - Martha

8:57 - 9:00 - Ibrahim Ozturkcan from iPhone

8:30/10:30 or 8:30/12:30. I need some time for myself. - Ton Zijp

I try to get up before nine nowadays. I'm happy if I manage to start some actual work at 11:00, but it's often more like 12:00. I work from home. *terribly undisciplined* That said, I have to go to bed. I actually missed my new commitment to turn off the computer before eleven, and go to sleep before 12. Oh well, tomorrow's another day. ;) - Meryn Stol

I get up at 9:03 if I have class at ten. and 9:23 if I have class at eleven. It takes five minutes to walk to class. - Marissa

Most days my alarm goes off at 7, I'm up by 7:30 and at work by 8:30... Tuesdays (and sometimes Mondays) everything shifts an hour so my alarm goes off at 8 and I'm at work by 9:30. I wish I could get up earlier in the AM, but I'm too exhausted lately and would have to go to bed by, like, 8pm to get up at the hour I want. - Penguin

MORNING?!? I get up at the crack of Noon....WORK?!... - Eric Sizemore

5:00-5:15/8:00 - Greg Schwartz

(Someone else's) alarm goes off at 7:15ish, I usually wake up a tiny bit, but don't wake all the way up til 8 or 9 and don't usually get out of bed til 9:30. Sometimes I sleep in till 10:30!! I get to work around quarter after noon most days, 2 pm on Fridays. THIS week though, I get up around 7:30 and get to work by 9 *grumbles and treats herself to compensatory breakfast out all week*. - Marianne

Wake up around 6 but don't move from the bed until about 6:45 and get to work by 8:30. - Michelle

Between 8 and 11. I work part-time from home. Fiance calls me the househusband - Rah-PM 2012

up at 4:30am to be at work before 6am. - Kamala Whitaker

6:15 / 7:45. That's half an hour for shower/dressing/feeding cat, half an hour for eating breakfast while reading email etc, and half an hour for catching the bus (and continuing to read email on my laptop). Followed by 15min waiting for work to start (and continuing to read email). - Deborah Fitchett

When I work dayshift, I wake up around 3:15a, on the road by 4:00a, at work just before 5:00a... - Beau Liening

I get up around 730, I get to work around 930 - Shevonne

Up at 5:15. Usually have to be at work around 8. - Dan: Bibrarian

cat work > /dev/null - imabonehead

Awake at noon, at work half an hour later. Stop at 4- 6 a.m. Startup, you know. - A Mitchell

I get up around 10:30A and I don't work. - Jeff P. Henderson

Well, first of all I'm a niteowl, second I work at home...so must admit I'm up between 10:30-11:00am. I start work when I feel like it. Could be noon or 3:00pm....whenever. - Bonnie Foster from BuddyFeed

8:00 wake up 8:30 stand up 9:00 don't give up the fight :) - Serif Varli

Ahmed Bilal

@aem76us Yea, but this person's already been severely injured in an accident

December 31, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

I'm sorry to hear this. Best wishes for a full recovery. - A Mitchell

The LaidBack Show: Teeth Maestro

TOPICS SUGGESTIONS FOR EPISODE 11

December 19, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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"@DrAwab y nt talk abt two day weekend..no one is takin up ths cause" > by @tamseelali (Sehrish Haider) > http://twitter.com/tamseel... - Teeth Maestro

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I'd like to see more guests at one time to heat up the discussion. Three might not do it. Try four. BTW, here is a shortened link to this page: http://j.mp/LbsEpisode11 - A Mitchell

A more heated discussion could be had if there were four people rather than two or three. - A Mitchell

Unrelated, does FF attract people who like to argue? http://ff.im/d6qmk - A Mitchell

A Mitchell ;) hell ya - its possible to have a debate here ;) - Teeth Maestro

i want a 4 day weekend!! and my name is FAISAL KAPADIA awab.... noob..moron! - Faisalkapadia

Hi Faisal Kapadia - good to see you here! If you subscribe to more people, you'll be able to go to 'Best of Day' or Best of Week to have the most important posts crowdsourced to the top. Saves a lot of time over Twitter. See who DrAwab and I follow for ideas on who to follow. - A Mitchell

and don't forget to 'like' the posts you like, to draw our attention to them. - A Mitchell

On Twitter, you rarely have the opportunity to see discussions. Here, the discussions are contained within a thread, like this one. - A Mitchell

awab... why cant we do a council here? as well.. this is live - Faisalkapadia

Good idea! - A Mitchell

thanks A mitchell this thing rawks - Faisalkapadia

The person who starts a thread, if they block someone (eg for spam) then that person never turns up again on any thread they start. - A Mitchell

u tweeting the feed addy or should i awab? - Faisalkapadia

That's why FF is so spam free. - A Mitchell

how do u block? goddamn who needs google wave with this wooot - Faisalkapadia

One issue that I haven't figured out is the issue of pushing links from FF to Twitter. I'm thinking now that the reason the links don't come through is not cuz of Twitter (although this used to be the case), but because of PowerTwitter. Here is the link for this thread: http://j.mp/LbsEpisode11 - A Mitchell

I think you have to go to the person's profile page (click through from their ID) and block them there. - A Mitchell

I've never actually started a big thread here cuz the other people here have better ideas than I do, so I'm here to listen. - A Mitchell

To get around link blocking, I go to j.mp and sometimes tr.im to shorten FF links there, rather than sending links directly from FF. - A Mitchell

Unlike Twitter, FF is not treated as a microblog but as a blog, so the contents have always enjoyed better placement in Google search results than Twitter posts. - A Mitchell

A NEW MEDIA CHANNEL FOR PAKISTAN? here is another topic to go go go - Faisalkapadia

watch this embed even here http://laidbackshow.com/topics... - Teeth Maestro

Wow, well done! - A Mitchell

I guess the best thing to discuss is Pakistan's upcoming series with Australia and future of Yonus Khan's career - Kashan Ahmed

and y don't you guys do a segment where you can do a movie review of any recent movie you have seen, especially Avatar and upcoming Aamir Khan's 3 idiot and his new way to promote his film. - Kashan Ahmed

Please note on LaidBack show page on FriendFeed, correct spelling is Faisal not Fasial. Don't make me come over there. - A Mitchell

kashan hrt idea our lbrep in london is doing a review in the premeire of avatar do u wanna do a 4 min or so clip on the 3 idiots? - Faisalkapadia

dm its blu cuz of ozone climate change is a good topic!!! thnx - Faisalkapadia

Pls talk about what happened on Moharam in KHI. Thanks. - A Mitchell

Loic Le Meur

“To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing.” – Elbert Hubbard via Tim Ferriss

December 18, 2009 from identi.ca - Comment - Like - Share

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I recycle it :) - RobertoC

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I always followed that concept, now I am broke :\ - deerstep

Reminds me of the cartoon I once saw: ''You either make dust, or you eat dust" - Deon Binneman

Oh yes! - Florin Grozea

Did anyone notice where Loic's posting (getting ideas) from? http://identi.ca/loic - A Mitchell

This quote truly makes me cry. I have a bang up quote for my email but this might be the replacement. So good - Braden Douglass

Faisalkapadia

http://www.facebook.com/inbox... my blogs facebook page do subscribe for updates

December 19, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

Why not pull your Facebook posts into Friendfeed? Photo/video uploads too. - A Mitchell

Paul Buchheit

What is one place in the world you think everyone MUST visit? - http://www.reddit.com/r...

December 14, 2009 from Reddit - Comment - Like - Share

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The bathroom. - DGentry

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socotra - imran

Himalayas..(INDIA). - dineshviswanath

29°58′45.03″N 31°08′03.69″E - kartik vaithyanathan

Grand Canyon! - Bo Stern

lol @ D - HAPPY VALZ DAY

NY and England - HAPPY VALZ DAY

Their nearest ocean. - Mike Nencetti

Their local library. - Spidra Webster

New Zealand (they have some really good libraries!) - Joe The Sausage

New Zealand, but if 7 billion tourists descended then did it wouldn't be worth visiting. - Kevin Fox

Prague. - Jandy

hmm if we combine some of these answers we have the bathroom of a library in New Zealand that is near the ocean.... - Mike Nencetti

LOL @ Denton - Anika

+1 Mike - AJ Batac :)

Hawai'i - Morgan

Phuket, Thailand - I've been to Bali, Hawaii, and some of the most beautiful beaches in the world, but Phuket beats them all. Be sure to take the boat tours. - Jesse Stay

South Africa - The Fat Oracle

Yellowstone/Grand Teton. - andrei_c

Mike: As I remember, the bathroom in Auckland's public library was just fine, but maybe not worth a special visit. I'm reluctant to identify anything--seven billion people would wreck southeast Alaska or Bora Bora, which might otherwise be good choices. - Walt Crawford

Prague. - Christian (Simply X)

Disneyland - Rodfather

I say Hawai'i because I want the economy there to be stronger. I plan to retire there someday and need it to be pimped out by the time I'm ready. So go there. Spend lots of money. Thank you. - Morgan

FriendFeed.com - Louis Gray

The Librarians in Auckland probably use Friendfeed. - Mike Nencetti

Somewhere they feel loved - RAPatton from iPhone

Do the librarians in NZ use friendfeed in the bathroom to post discussions for their buddies in the himalayas? - mjc from iPhone

good one RAP thats why I am here........... - HAPPY VALZ DAY

Amoeba Music? - Andrew C (✓)

Right now? The bathroom! UH Oh Gotta GO!!! ~ aaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - The Real sofarsoShawn

Edinburgh; Montreal; Cape Breton - Brent

Rome - Alex Scrivener

Bora Bora Island-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Ashish

Bora Bora is absolutely stunning, but also really expensive. Also, it's really a disconnect hearing Polynesian people speaking French. - Kevin Fox

Portugal, specially São Miguel, Azores - http://picasaweb.google.pt/rikhard... - ovigia

Railey Beach, Thailand - Alistair (alpinefolk)

Trantor - Pierre Lindenbaum

pretty much EVERYWHERE in New Zealand is close to the ocean. - Joe The Sausage

Rome - Amy

Whistler BC Canada. Then again, Tourism Whistler is my employer so I'm paid to say that but I do also believe it personally. - Andrew Smith

Vladivostok - gmarketer

The Louvre. - Rochelle

Jerusalem. - Robert Scoble

Both Steve Wozniak and Larry Page (and Larry's wife) told me that New Zealand were their favorite places to visit, though. - Robert Scoble

Stormhold - Charles Ying

One might want to see the polar ice caps while one can. I guess a glance at the thermafrost before it gets thawed would be logical, and all the coastal areas and islands before they are submerged. - Sue - Friendfeed is best

The moon. - imabonehead

meat packing industry =) - Harsh SIngh

Personally my favorite place to visit was the USS Nimitz while it was in operation. That beats everywhere else I've been. San Quentin is a place I'd love everyone to visit but it certainly wasn't fun. - Robert Scoble

Auschwitz - Scoble, Alex Scoble

While we're at it, every tax payer should visit a sewage treatment plant too. - Robert Scoble

Margaret River Western Australia. GODS COUNTRY (im not religious) - Tyson

damn.. did i just tell the world the best secret.. argh - Tyson

The Alamo, we must never forget the Alamo. - The Real sofarsoShawn

went to the Alamo in early 2004 while i was in San Antonio. there was no line or anything. of course, it was February at the time. - Joe The Sausage

The hood. Wherever the nearest lower class neighborhood is. The place where there is nothing but liquor stores, gun stores, and Family Dollar. People would appreciate things more if they realized just how much they have. The world might be a better place. Then again...maybe not. - Rah-PM 2012

Somewhere to get a good view of the Northern (or Southern) Lights - Ian May

Masada and the Dead Sea. - Michael R. Bernstein

istanbul - Turkey - Mustafa Alpay ☮

Istanbul and San Francisco:) - Petek(UCB)_

LOL ! awesome!! @ Mike Nencetti - FunkyRose

New York City - Henny Susilawati from email

Cherry Blossom Land, Belleville, NJ...during the 3rd week of April. http://images.google.com/images... - April

SuezanneC, don't you think everyone travelling to see the polar icecaps would hasten their demise? - Ruchira S. Datta

If you like mountains and chocolate as much as I do, Bariloche, Argentina. Horseback ride through the Patagonia - elizabeth

Sao Paulo, go to the same dumpy open-air restaurant four nights in a row. Talk to everyone who comes up. It will broaden your horizons. Brazilians are genuinely interested in people, especially people who are different from them. In the U.S., we are in too much of a rush. Too inward facing. Second place to go: the old markets of Karachi. Accept tea from the shopkeepers - then others will approach. - A Mitchell

Saket Vaidya

Beware Social Media Snake Oil - http://www.businessweek.com/magazin...

December 6, 2009 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

@Vulturo links are still not coming through from FriendFeed to Twitter. There is a FF thread on this subject somewhere, but they don't seem bothered. - A Mitchell

I think this one did come through, though - Saket Vaidya

Benjamin Golub

We are working to bring FriendFeed back as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience.

November 28, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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So, you are leaving Facebook and returning FriendFeed to it's former greatness?! ;) - JA Castillo

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Thanks Ben and pals! You guys rock! - Josh Haley from iPhone

Thanks for such a great service. - Ashish

Thanks guys - zeroinfluencer

Thanks! - Ruchira S. Datta

What does this mean? Does it refer to the Twitter blockade? - Steve Gillmor from iPhone

Thanks guys. Thank you very much!! - Roberto Bonini from iPhone

steve friendfeed was not available this morning...the message refers to that. not seeing any appreciable break in the twitter blockade. - Karoli

I actually got a complaint from someone who follows me on Twitter about link flooding coming from Friendfeed, so it's good the blockade is there, for now at least. - Mr. Gunn

Ben, while you're at it, can you fix whatever broke Amazon wishlists? Thanks! - Michael R. Bernstein

Plus the Desktop Notifier. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

The blockade is in the other direction. If Twitter won't acknowlege it then Facebook is effectively killing the service. - Steve Gillmor from iPhone

Give full support and resources to Mr. Golub!! We all want a thing from that post, even without its context 8). - Zu from AOD

What's up with FF links not showing up on Twitter? It's been that way for about a week. The FF link interface has always confused me. And now it doesn't work. - A Mitchell

Seems to be working here but Twitter posta are delayed by 20 minutes to two hours due to legal issues - Steve Gillmor from iPhone

Thanks very much! It was back up as soon as I saw your tweet. - Auntie Buttinsky Botts

thank you for all your work, :) - chaz2b

I have had some problems with pages fully loading since it came back, Home feed and Best of Day in particular. Posts at the bottom of the page are cut off and like, comments, and expanding to read comments is impossible unless I open the individual posts in a new window. Very frustrating. - April

Links are still not coming through from FriendFeed to Twitter. I'm not making this up. - A Mitchell

Paul Buchheit

Imagine that you are about to be reincarnated (as a baby human) and can pass along 140 characters of advice. What would you say?

November 17, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Assume that the baby will be born into circumstances similar to your own, if necessary... - Paul Buchheit

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Wow, that's a stumper of a question! :) - Susan Beebe

Learn all that you can, be noble, true, humble, love much. Seek wisdom from your family and friends - Susan Beebe

I would say: pls take a picture of me using your iPhone and post it to Posterous and capture that 12sec video of reincarnation process : ) - victed from iPhone

I wouldn't need 140 characters: "in whatever you do, strive to do it as well as you possibly can." 64. - Bren from iPhone

Floss. :) - AJ Batac :)

"It's mostly an illusion" - Paul Buchheit

Never stop learning, enjoy the little things, cherish friends & family, try your best, keep an open mind, and indulge yourself occasionally. - Nathan Chase

chase your passions, the rest follows. observe everything. work, love and play hard. change happens. live full and balanced. 3 - Charles Ying

What goes around comes around. - imabonehead

I think Nathan has it! At least he said exactly what I would have written. :-) - Victoria Plautia

Don't panic. - Penguin from fftogo

Risk is not an option. And eat your vegetables. - Micah

Study Thomas, he has more answers than anyone else you will read. - Alex Scrivener

.....so are we trying to guess the meaning of life here? essentially I think that's what this question boils down to. I only need two characters: - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ

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Fear the fail whale. - Jim Norris

"If you think you already know the answer, you will never know the answer" - Paul Buchheit

Alex, which Thomas? - Paul Buchheit

You're a towel! - Vezquex

Don't fear the fail whale. - Paul Buchheit

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, if you were in their position. - Ruchira S. Datta

Everything is transitory. - John E. Bredehoft

Don't tell them I told you this. They'll think you're nuts! - Larry Hosken

"There's always an easier way" - Paul Buchheit

I'm surprised no one's quoted Kurt Vonnegut yet. :) - April Buchheit

April, is that your advice or an observation? - Clare Dibble

Observation. - April Buchheit

Stay away from the mohel. - Leo Laporte

Crush the enemy. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of the women. - iTad

"Think big. Code small." - Paul Buchheit

For April: "There's only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you've got to be kind." - Paul Buchheit

Phase 1: Collect Handerpants; Phase 2: ?; and Phase 3: Profit - imabonehead

Just wing it. It'll be cool. - April Buchheit

Let's git rid of 140 chars nonsense limid. - pb:

"Reasonable men adapt to the world around them; unreasonable men make the world adapt to them. The world is changed by unreasonable men." - Paul Buchheit

Paul, try telling April that next time she is frustrated with you; I'm sure it will help ;) - Clare Dibble

Just told my son this tonight -- Leave the earth better than the way you found it. - The Ghost of Library Past

Don't be such an asshole, asshole. - Rodfather

@Paul, Aquinas - Alex Scrivener

Assuming my reincarnated self has wifi and a smartphone, I might point him to Des'ree's 1990s pop hit: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Doug Beeferman

Treat others with respect. Feed your intellectual curiosity. Don't accept limits others place upon you and often, patience is required. - Louis Gray

"Nobody else knows what's really going on either." - The Amber

LCD is better than plasma - Scoble, Alex Scoble

"Its not that bad, stop sh*tting yourself, ;)" - chaz2b

++Leo, that sounds like very useful advice. :) - Ruchira S. Datta

In the end it really doesn't matter, enjoy it while it lasts, do what makes you happy, try not to sabotage the happiness of others. - April

Don’t sweat the small stuff. It’s all small stuff. - Laura Norvig

"Dear Reincarnated Self: my head is frozen with the Life Extension Foundation. To get cool advice pls unfreeze me at ur earliest convenience." - Philipp Lenssen

"Dont be afraid to take chances or march to a different beat. In the end only the soul counts, don't sweat the small stuff. Listen, learn." - Grant Bierman

Dr. Cable. Watch it. ;-) - Friendfeed's Francisco

I dare you to do better. - Charles Ying

"Please ask the next generation to increase maximum message length." - Ray Cromwell

BTW, Commander Data was able to get away with sending only 2 *bits* of information into the future/past to break out of a 'groundhog day' scenario. The message: 3 - Ray Cromwell

There once was a site called Twitter. It was worth a billion dollars... - Sean Kelly

Exercise every day, learn to program asap. I have discovered a truly marvellous proof that these are the right things to do which this twee - j1m

"I've finally discovered the secret to a contented and effective life, which for you, begins now. This joy can be yours. Just claim it by t" <snipped by character limit> - Kurtiss Hare

Search for the will of the creator. Prefer the heaven of love to the hell of power.Every moment is unique.Train empathy. Give. [ yeah, I kept in the character limit! Twitter is like life sometimes, only, hu, more limitted :-] - Willi Schroll

L^2>∞ love of life is greater then time and space. Compassion destroys the destroyer peace above me below me around me down me radiate peace - Robert Higgins

That's easy: Join friendfeed as soon as possible. - Vicarbott

H4sIABnpA0sCA+3KOw2AMBQAwB0VTwEeWHFRPhOFEgghdU91kFsvN+Qcb7m2SMcSR4kzpxp72tY7 xjQ3juVpZSq1j8F1Xdd1Xdd1Xdd1Xdd1Xdd1Xdd1Xdd1/327D0m3yMZIHwAA - Edward Coffey

"Propose multiple solutions to every problem. Or choose your own life." - Ivo Danihelka

Learn Math. - Comics Forge

"Context is everything." - Bruce Johnson from BuddyFeed

@RayCromwell - see my first comment ;) - Charles Ying

"Listen." The other 133 characters are superfluous. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo

Like to quote Einstein on this one," As the circle of light increases, so does the circumference of darkness." - Ashish from iPhone

Ray Cromwell has said it best *rofl* please increase message length!! It doesn't get any better than that! Words of wisdom!! :) - John Tastad

Seek truth - Shakeel Mahate

Love always wins. Don't sweat happiness: find joy. (ponders how to translate the "becoming a man" speech from Secondhand Lions into 140 characters...) - Ladyepiphanybug

Remember to save often...data and money. Live life like you have a reset button. - Brian Merriman

Ignore advice. You'll figure it out. - Todd Hoff

I won't develop the ability to type until years later, so I guess my only advice is "Ga Ga" and "Ball." - Fleagle

Frankie says RELAX - HAPPY VALZ DAY

It's not just you, they're all crazy. Make as many friends outside the family as you can. You'll want to leave home. Do it. Don't look back. (this is a seriously awesome topic!) - Lo the Baker

Follow your heart. Don't worry about failure because apparently reincarnation is real. Snooches! - Kevin Fox

Dont let others decide for you what is good and right for you. Not even this message. - Iphigenie

Learn your math. Especially Geometry. It will make your coding SO much more compelling! - Joe Nickence

"Don't tweet"? - Marcos

Actually, I prefer FF.. - ★ Soner Gönül

Well I won't list all 140 but 1 I will is: Do not live your life to live..Live it to die. In other words, prepare for death because all life is about is another chance to get it right so you can end Samsara. - Merlyn Seeley

"In your past life, you never understood why people liked Twitter." - Ryan Kaisoglus

the world is made of atoms - bob

Crawl back in? - dannysullivan

Use the force. Search your feelings. Live long and prosper. - Charles Ying

When the time comes, cut the blue wire. - David Gaw

There's always something bigger than you. - Daisy

Dear new self: whatever you do, don't make all the same mistakes with your life that I did with mine. For example, you should never ever try [MAXIMUM MESSAGE LENGTH REACHED] - Your Neighbor Steve

Don't put twinkies on your Pizza. - Will Higgins™

Find Stuart Diamond and take his negotiation course when you're 16. Love yourself so you can love others. Also, reincarnation exists, and you were a geek in your previous life. - Daniel Dulitz

Don't wish for what you aren't. Life will be far more interesting than you could ever expect. Play with the cards you're dealt, and have fun - Bette Cooper

don't play safe gamble every day - WarLord

Focus, be patient. Never give up. Timing is crucial. - Jason (not an Argonaut) from iPod

"Next time, duck." - Otto from iPhone

Call me Stewie, bow now and pay later. Put another coal in the power plant so you can continue watching this homage and choke on the fumes. [140 and referenced Family Guy, ideology, commerce, ecology, choice, and lost will.] - William 'Bill' McPhe

"Tom Cruise must be stopped. By any means necessary." - Otto

Otto, you have room to add "--your mission, if you choose to accept it." - Micah

Life is all about ass. You're either covering it, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, laughing it off, or trying to get a piece of it. - Mona Nomura

Mona, you forgot the part about being one. - April

live! - Barbara R. S.

Be kind to animals, nature, others & yourself. Do what you love. Love what you do. Never stop learning about the world around you. - Bronson Harrington

Try to find the 140 characters you would pass along to your reincarnation. - Eszter Susánszky

Nap. - A Mitchell

Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct

Most of YOU top bloggers/ Social Media Pro's/ Soc media coaches/ Pro monitors- wouldn't know your 1000 True Fans if they bit your fat ass.

November 1, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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seriously? - Valeria Maltoni

Well, Valeria constantly engages her readers, asks questions, responds to input. As the exception, she merely proves the rule. - A Mitchell

David Steven

Thirsty Plant Dries Out Yemen - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

November 1, 2009 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

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More than half of this country’s scarce water is used to feed an qat addiction. - David Steven

Qat addiction leaves behind clouds of plastic bags. Brideprices for women good at qat production can exceed $45k. Fighting usually stops after 1:30 pm or so as men settle down for an afternoon chew. - A Mitchell

Jeremiah Owyang

The Future of the Social Web: In Five Eras - http://www.web-strategist.com/blog...

April 27, 2009 from Web Strategy by Jeremiah - Comment - Like - Share

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Interesting stuff...thanks for sharing - Hugo Guzman

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Great info! I agree fish where the fish are :) - Peter du Toit (S.Africa)

Agree on the whole. I always find these categories a little artificial: Really "Forrester-speak". :) I think the recommendations are the most interesting. I'd make a separate post out of that. - Meryn Stol

You say it yourself: "What’s interesting isn’t this vision for the future, but what it holds in store for brands, " . I'd like these recommendations to be fleshed out with concrete first steps to take. Doesn't have to be more than links to relevant resources. - Meryn Stol

Meryn The recommendations are fleshed out in the actual reports. Our clients (brands) have access to see them. - Jeremiah Owyang

Hmm ok... Then I'll need to get the details elsewhere I guess. :) - Meryn Stol

There will be a give and take between communities and brands. The thing is, Facebook doesn't have a competitive alternative that users could go to. In my report, we suggest that active communities could define specs for products, and bid MULTIPLE companies to build it. - Jeremiah Owyang

good stuff Jeremiah, enjoyed and some good thought provokers there for the future - Richard Binhammer

Nice paper but really expensive for young people. $750 means $41 for page. - Alp

Great information, understanding the future's potential is more important than ever on the social web. - Maria Reyes-McDavis

Interesting, but very general and hard to apply. I see companies more as å provide of tools/stage for conversation, aka the gold rush mining vs selling tools - Anders Dahlberg

Alp, Many of Forrester's clients are large brands who have a subscription. We're still sharing a great deal on this blog, and have given the report to bloggers to cover, so there's value to be had there. - Jeremiah Owyang

Jeremiah (and the team), a great piece of work and, I imagine, a labour of both love and loathing at times! I have been very interested in this area as I have looked at the shift in skills to deliver social media activity changes from one of basic coding knowledge to much more human, interactive skills. - Paul Fabretti

Fantastic article! I found it SO intriguing that I've even printed it out! - J. D. Ebberly

"How Brands Should Prepare" is a great bit of information. Jeremiah, it would be nice (i'd be reading) if you expanded in future blog posts about the "How Brands Should Prepare". - frank barry

That's likely to be a research report I'm thinking about writing Frank - Jeremiah Owyang

Probably correct in assuming that most online social networks will neither spawn nor solidify to the point of being considered ‘affinity groups’ with the level of cohesion, unified budgetary authority or organized implementation capability of NGOs, churches, or employee aggregations. Even in the era of social commerce. I hope I’m wrong. - A Mitchell

Great post, understanding the future's potential is more important than ever on the social web. - Vlad Hrouda

Just found this... great stuff! - Gerd Leonhard

Robert Scoble

Why do people get pissed at Microsoft? I have a new Dell/Vista. Nothing but Office 2007 on it. Crashes when I try to open Outlook. Sigh.

September 12, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Nothing on it? Or a bunch of stuff installed by Dell on it? - Sam Pullara

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Sam: there's all the usual stuff installed by Dell. I need a Windows 7 DVD! :-) - Robert Scoble

Don't you have the latest RC candidate Robert? That should work I would think. - Altan Khendup

i say use linux and thunderbird - Sunny (The Geek Lord)

Robert, why don't you use Thunderbird ? it's free, lightweight and it has lots of plugins https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US... - امیرعباس

Microsoft needs to take control of their own support - Dell support sucks, and drives me away from Microsoft. - Jesse Stay

Have a client with a win 2003 server. It's needs OS re-installing. They've lost disks. Apparently MS don't offer OEM 2003 support anymore. the product key with the COA (obviously) doesn't work with the evaluation versions I was told by Dell to download from MS site. a third call to Dell support, and they 'find' some disks in stock after all. It was a whole day wasted though chasing around in circles. - Ian May

Three new motherboards later and I couldn't be happier with my Dell. Srsly. - A Mitchell

I've had more than my share of issues with various Linux distributions, too. Not sure who I should hate for that. - Jeff Harbert

I use Gmail these days. Outlook is nasty expensive bloatware, that I can't personally justify the cost of, and with Gmail, none of the sync nonsense required either. I do back it up locally, but not had to use that yet. - Ian May

Thunderbird sounds good but I think Opera client is worth a try 2 is so much nicer & with the browser 2. - polou/indigo_bow

hello robert - Ramazan Çekiç

Thunderbird is wonderful! I installed it on the fly (IMAP) during the last great Gmail outage with no issues - 1001 noisy cameras

I think its just outlook... never could get that be very stable on any machine, not since they loaded it up with so many things. - Matt Ellsworth

Yeah, Linux is no better. Why, I remember Ubuntu crashing on me just last year. Not the OS, mind you, but gdm, so I was logged out. Or was that 2007? - Bruce Lewis

It's all the crap that these companies put on new PCs that is so tiresome. it's time wasting too, removing it all. - Ian May

Dell was good some years ago. Now they are average. Deinstall Vista. Choose XP. My new Dell is working stable since I did that. - Wulffy

ThinkPad, Vista and OpenOffice = works like a charm for me - Ronald

oh come on guys - Thunderbird is no Outlook, long way to go still - Iphigenie

I don't like Outlook as 1. I can't justify the price. 2. it's slow. 3. it's bloated eye candy 4. I don't need it. - Ian May

does a new commercially bought PC with Windows and Software installed crash more than a commercially bought PC with linux or mac OSX? I'm not sure, perhaps it would be because typically there's way more installed and customized that can go wrong on first run. On the other hand my commercially bought HP with Linux could not be registered online or updated ("sorry, your serial number is... more... - Iphigenie

ok Kittyburgers. I used to use Outlook, but these days I simply don't need it. I prefer Gmail, and there's no darn sync nonsense. That is the main reason I moved away from local email. - Ian May

Stop buying Dell. The load it with crapware. My latest Lenovo was great. And my Velocity Micro. - Jeff (Team マクダジ ) from iPhone

that's cuz we all know your old generation is pretty much computer illiterate - The Real sofarsoShawn

my curent annoyance with MS is the helpful search technology they have added and kind of forced on me - by default it indexes too much, uses too many resources, and gets in the way... and i cant remove it... - Iphigenie

Learn how to use a computer, Scoble. Obviously you're doing it all wrong. - John Hardy

LOL! Try cleaning out your data file if you haven't, should do the trick.. - Ahad Bokhari

Try having 40 Dells in a classroom that are never consistent. Then add 200 online students with GOD KNOWS WHAT home systems. Can you say IT exec turned CompApps prof turned HelpDesk technician? LOL! - Brenda Rothaupt

They release products with extended beta's and once 60% of the "bugs" are worked out they charge you the 160$ for the service to continue. The people are getting educated this won't be in the future!! cs ostini - Christopher Scott Ostini

Jeremiah Owyang

@scobleizer what do you predict for mobile social networks? Loopt? Foursquare? Or the 'incumbents' like Facebook or Twitter may succeed?

September 4, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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I think Scoble has great social media instincts --he's often wrong --but he's right more than anyone else percentage wise. - Jeremiah Owyang

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More than anybody else percentage wise? Back it up. :) - Louis Gray

Maybe he should be a VC. Would you give him money? - Jeremiah Owyang

Four Square raises a round http://paidcontent.org/article... - Jeremiah Owyang

I agree about Scoble's instincts... I just stay away from things that make him cry - Sean Reiser

That's a tough test. I'd be hard-pressed to give anyone my money who didn't already have a track record. - Hutch Carpenter

Scoble might very well have more success than the majority of VCs if given money. - Mark Evans

I wrote him a five figure check once. - Louis Gray

I hope to write Louis Gray a five figure check some time - Jesse Stay

Yeah, Louis, that investment's doing all right, ain't it? - Hutch Carpenter

After another 35K miles, he might just let you, Jesse. :) - Mark Evans

Ill write Louis a Four Figure Check so he can turn it into a 5 figure check he can give scoble - Jeremiah Owyang

What would Scoble invest in if he were a VC? - Mark Evans

who will write me a 3 figure check so I can give it to Louis? - Jeremiah Owyang

I love foursquare (when it's up). Congrats to the team on raising a round. Interesting area. - John McCrea

John I noticed it's been having problems the last few days too - Jeremiah Owyang

FourSquare is cool. If I could, I would invest in Yelp. I think they are closer to the real money than Twitter or Facebook is. That means that they will either get purchased, or will go all the way on their own. The Yelp iPhone app is already the best one for location. The rest are just games. :-) - Robert Scoble

Scoble’s strength as a VC would be bolstered by his ability to pull in outside pieces for mashups and outside marketing/publicity resources to build early momentum. This is something most VCs claim to do, but are really only around to write cheques. However, a role that might fit Scoble better than being a pure VC would be to also direct an incubation garage where he could contribute ideas and solutions on a daily, face-to-face basis. - A Mitchell

Fourquare is not ready for prime time. I'm on it, I play it, but it just isn't stable or accurate or complete enough to be really satisfying. That being said, I am still the Mayor of Sam's Chowder House. - Francine Hardaway

Brightkite - Wayne Sutton

Francine, I had claim to New England Aquarium for a short time :-) I only wish it was available in Salt Lake City now. - Jesse Stay

I used to think Brightkite but Foursquare has the mojo right now. It's tied to places so it's easier to use and rewards frequent check-ins with fun titles like Mayor and achievements. It has a solid business model. And it's much more social. I've use them both and I'm increasingly gravitating toward foursquare. - Leo Laporte

Foursquare is an absolutely amazing social, location awareness app. Moreover, it is super young and although limited to the city you are in, it should dominate when it picks up steam. Plus, it has a really friggin cool name. - Braden Douglass

I like Foursquare but Brightkite has more features; upload photos to flickr, sync update with facebook status, comments/mentions and already a few augmented reality mashups. Here's my location based iPhone app review blog post: http://socialwayne.com/pvc . Foursquare isn't in my city yet but I had a chance to "play" with it during a recent NYC trip. It has features that will make users... more... - Wayne Sutton

Thanks robert for the comment - Jeremiah Owyang

Brightkite. Foursquare is a non starter, since they don't operate in any cities I'd ever want to be in. - Otto from iPhone

I didn't realize Foursquare had to "operate in cities"... I thought you just added locations when they weren't already in the service. - Lindsay

Foursquare - Gabriel

Lindsay: Nope. Foursquare only works in 21 cities: http://foursquare.com/cities . Which makes it a non-starter, since the nearest one of those is 400+ miles away from me. - Otto

Bret Taylor

How to build cheap cloud storage (67 terabyte 4U servers for $7,867) - Backblaze Blog - http://blog.backblaze.com/2009...

September 1, 2009 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Amazing level of transparency and detail about their custom storage servers. HN discussion at http://news.ycombinator.com/item... (discusses why this is appropriate for backup, but perhaps not generic storage needs) - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet

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Put me down for two. - Jason Shellen

45 drives per unit and many units means they must be constantly replacing failed hard drives - just due to the sheer quantity of them in use - Jacob Old

It wasn't entirely clear to me from the blog post what you have to do to replace a drive. Looks like at minimum you have to remove the unit from the rack, and I don't see any drawer guides or similar to assist with that. And do they have to take the unit offline to replace a single drive? - Jason Wehmhoener

Geez. Back in 1998, Microsoft was bragging about their 1 TB cloud... :-) Millions of $ then I think. - Mitchell Tsai

One happy Backblaze customer checking in. - Russellreno

sounds neat - now what to do with 67 TB of storage... - Matt Ellsworth

Seriously Matt! Lots and Lots and Lots of video? HD video! - Rick Cogley

So, they store their data "securely" in Palo Alto? That makes me scared. - Jonas S Karlsson

Quoted from blog- "Backblaze Storage Pods are building blocks upon which a larger system can be organized that doesn’t allow for a single point of failure." They have indicated an amazing amount of cost savings. - Wins Fern

Petabyte schmetabyte. - Rick Cogley

Mitchell: I don't think 1TB was "millions of dollars" in 1998. - Steve de Mena

Nice idea. Pity that it only supports a HTTPS interface, not surprising at that cost though (the software that runs the filesystems on the NetApp and other devices isn't exactly cheap to write). Anyone see if they quoted transfer speeds? I'm wondering what impact the four SATA cards each with SATA multipliers on them has when it comes to access speeds. - Russ

Steve: according to http://www.littletechshoppe.com/ns1625... disk cost ~$0.08 / mb in 1998, which comes out to >$800,000 for 1 TB or just over a million bucks in todays dollars. so maybe not millions, but a million! - Karl Rosaen

Russ: It runs Debian. If you were rolling your own (and they don't sell these units), you could turn on NFS or some other protocol (CIFS, iSCSI). They only use HTTP because it's cloud storage. NFS license is a major expense on NetApp, but all the major Linux distributions can act as NFS servers, CIFS servers, and probably iSCSI targets. - Andy Dustman

Andy: I know that you could do that on them but it leaves the problem of what to do with the storage. You could merge the 3 volumes into an LVM VG but the performance could become an issue with any load on it. It seems I wasn't the only one to question the performance, while the views of a Sun engineer aren't exactly unbiased it does highlight some of the downsides: http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archive... - Russ

Russ, great find, thanks. - Jason Wehmhoener

Fascinating article; but more questions: "In rough terms, every time one of our customers buys a hard drive, Backblaze needs another hard drive." -- so what happens when a drive fails; how much redundancy is there? What happens when a meteorite destroys the whole building; is there off site backup too? (I know this *is* the off-site backup, but still...) I wonder how much data flows in and out over time. Maybe I should just read their website. - Rob Fisher

Rob: they mention using 15 drive RAID6 volumes that can lose up to 2 drives before failure - Mike Chelen

The worst part about this cluster design is the fact that I couldn’t shut up about it for the first couple days after finding out about it. It was the solution I proposed to every problem. There were complaints. - A Mitchell

IMO RAID6 is not that great. Granted, it's highly unlikely to lose 3 drives at the same time, but there's still possibility. Besides, for write-intensive app, parity calculation is quite time-consuming. I personally prefer RAID 10 (striped array of RAID1 pairs). Yes the effective usable space is less than half total capacity, but for backups -- which will sooner or later be used to restore something -- I prefer data integrity over usage efficiency. - Pandu ● IT Optimizer from fftogo

Tom Foremski

The ifference between bloggers and journalists? Journalists do it every day :)

September 3, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Is that the only ifference? - Louis Gray

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Hmmm... some journalists publish only twice a week, while many bloggers (for example Louis) publish twice a day :) - Valeria Maltoni

Yup the frequency of posts is not a good comparison. Come up with something better Tom. :) - BRҰANSAҰS

Sounds simplistic. Does this include journalists who write for monthlies or quarterlies? - Anika

They spell check everyday? :) - Jeff (Team マクダジ ) from iPhone

Yes, we do need editors :) That's another difference... - Tom Foremski

My point was that most bloggers have a day job and that they don't have to publish if they don't want to. But for journalists that is their day job and so they "do it" every day. While some might only publish one story a week, they are doing far more research than a lot of bloggers. But of course, there are many other differences between the two. - Tom Foremski

Oh, I don't know about that either. The bloggers I know, do it everyday. They spend a good time doing research, despite their day jobs. Most manage to publish everyday, which is a lot more than most journalists regardless of media. The bloggers I know, do not have research assistants/dept. like journalists do, so there's that. - Anika

I have a day job and 1 year old twins and publish every day. And I don't rehash other people's news. Bring it. - Louis Gray

LG - and you're the undisputed MarioKart champ too. ;) - Jeff (Team マクダジ ) from iPhone

The best thing many bloggers can do is read the AP Stylebook, repeatedly, until they understand ‘the craft’ of journalism. There’s often too little in common between journalists and bloggers. Journalists have a better handle on how to make attributions, organize material, separate their opinions and give credit to others. Oh yes, and maintain their professional ethics, even (or especially when) blogging. How many bloggers would recognize the AP Stylebook if they saw it? - A Mitchell

Robert Scoble

How to tell if you are a geek:

August 30, 2009 from email - Comment - Like - Share

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Tonight I was faced with this scene at a party in Indianapolis for Monster Energy drink and I figure it is a good way to tell if you are a geek. If you first impulse is to ask the girls for help with your Ubuntu install, you are probably a geek. If you start wondering about what cool iPhone apps they use, you are probably a geek. If you want to ask them where the best places to find wifi in Paris are, you are probably a geek. If you want to invite them to a Facebook party you are probably a geek. If you ask them what they think of Android you are probably a geek. - Robert Scoble from email

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به به , چشم مریم خانم روشن - Mil∂d

@scobleizer you follow the scobleizer on here? - Prolific Programmer from IM

By the way, I am a geek. :-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

If you ignore them entirely and check out what's playing on the media player in the background, you're probably a geek. - Akiva

If you can't spell "Ubuntu" do you get your geek cred's revoked? - Joel Bennett

If your first impulse is to correct @scobleizer on his spelling of Ubuntu in his post . . . you're a geek. - Michael Owens

So did you have wild sex with them? - Dave Winer

geek ---> - Rah-PM 2012

Well Robert, what did they answer to all these questions? <--- Geek. - Bettina Tizzy

if you dont care, for once, what scoble has to say, and are simply wondering where to find these girls...what are you? - Zachary Adam Cohen

sluts* - Michael Owens

If you know for a fact the girls don't care at all about you and are only there as paid advertisements, AND you still don't care and want to gawk and hang out and get photos with them anyway...you might be a geek. - Josh Haley

Damn, Josh, why not just go ahead and win the Internet for yourself, why don't you. - Akiva

It might be a new ad for s3. - Trey Ratcliff

Thank you, sir. - Josh Haley

Dave: I am talking with you so what do you think? :-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Dave + Scoble: That's a yes. - Michael Owens

Zachary: they are in downtown Indy. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

If you ask them their thoughts on Faccebook acquiring FriendFeed, you're a geek. - imabonehead

What the.. Why bother blogging this crap when you could actually be striking up riveting conversation.. - Pogmohoin

I wonder if Scoble's pickup line is "Hi, Who Are You?" - Sean Reiser

Imabonehead: definitely! - Robert Scoble from iPhone

on my way, just gonna fire up my get and break out the Nair for Men - Zachary Adam Cohen from email

"Hi, I'm Robert Scoble, who are you?" - Prolific Programmer from IM

oh btw sluts* - Pogmohoin

If you immediately turn to your iPhone and write about it on FriendFeed you are a geek - Jesse Stay

I'm pretty sure I am still a geek, but there is no way any of those questions come to mind when I see this picture. And I think if those questions come to anyone's mind here, it might be time for geek-rehab. - Bill Grant

Pogmohin: I talked with them for a while. Nice people but didn't know what Android was so I moved on. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

This post is just a cover story for why does Robert have this picture, anyway? - Jason Wehmhoener

So is "What do you think of Android?" the new Turning test? - Micah

thinking you can pick up said girls by telling them you wrote an iphone app and expecting them to get excited about it then you're a geek. - evablue

Yeah.. I am from FHM mag.. Want to make the big time baby.. Now can the girl at the rear just reach around to the one at the front more...click .. front page Roberts Screen Saver.. - Pogmohoin

Damn. Best photo you've ever taken! - Mike Flynn

You could also be gay, or female, but that would be in a non-geek-centric universe, so I could be wrong. ;) - Lisa Norman

Me: confronted with this scene, I'm a slut first, then a geek. ;) (Mike: hella observant!) - Dennis Jernberg

I have a feeling this is going to show up in the daily "Best Of Your Friendfeed" for anyone subscribed to Scoble. - Michael Owens

Michael: You're right! This one wins the whole day. ;) - Dennis Jernberg

Also, there is an iPod in the background -- clearly these are Apple Fan-girls. - Bill Grant

"Android? Oh, haven't met him yet. Is he still at the party?" *leaves room* - Micah

What were we talking about again? - Derrich

Bill: Sure enough, iPod, docked. - Dennis Jernberg

The girl at the right said her name was Ashley. Actually she said she was "Smashley." love that. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Bill: yup. I picked up on the iPod very quickly at the party. I am hoping Ashley sends me her play list! - Robert Scoble from iPhone

@Micah -- Me: "No, that's Mandroid. He stayed home. Wasn't cool enough. Android is...(way short explanation)" - Dennis Jernberg

If you take a picture of three beautiful girls, post it on FF, and your first inclination is to write a caption that includes the words Ubuntu, iphone Apps and Android - OR if you comment on such a post... You are definitely a geek. - Robert Rose

By the way none of the three had been to Europe so they couldn't help me with good places to get wifi for LeWeb. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

If you help them sign up for Facebook, FriendFeed, and Twitter, you're a geek. - imabonehead

Been to Europe?? Man did they say the best thing that come out of Europe was "The Final Countdown" from their Daddy's "86 with a Bullet" tape!! http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Pogmohoin

This scene was the geek's dream while posting this. :) - Bundit

imabonehead: actually they are already on Facebook. Which says something about how mainstream Facebook has gotten. - Robert Scoble

All the Facebook friends in my family (except for my brother) are definitely nongeeks. - Dennis Jernberg

anyone reading this is a geek - Brendon Wadey

++++++++++GooglePlex, Akiva! - Melanie Reed

Well I know I'm a geek. When someone like me, who spends a lot of time helping a sexy geek like Marina Orlova of http://hotforwords.com because she speaks geek and is enjoyable to work with. I might even venture to say she's a bit of a computer nerd. When Marina wakes up the first thing she does is check her email. When she gets ready for bed she can be found tweeting before she retires... more... - Captain Jack

Captain Jack: she sounds cool. What apps does she have on her iPhone? - Robert Scoble

Were they impressed by the size of your lens, Robert? - Vezquex

Raphael: I didn't have that with me tonight. Was going low key. :-) - Robert Scoble

wow - Ehsan Diary

If Robert had taken that shot with is 600mm, he would have had to have been 3 blocks away and you would be able to see the the flecks of color in their eyes :) You are looking at their eyes right?? -- My first thought was well, they can't be geeks as everyone knows true Geeks drink Red Bull not Monster :P Monster isn't all bad, they are big supporters of Surfrider and International Surfing day ----> Surfing Geek - Luke Kilpatrick

If you're a geek, why are you asking someone else for help with your Ubuntu installation? Shouldn't you figuring that out yourself? Turn in your geek card, now. - Andy Bakun

Yeah, they'd have to ask you to help with their Ubuntu installation. Except if they don't know what Android is, they probably haven't heard of Ubuntu either. - Dennis Jernberg

This Ubuntu question can relate this photo and the Ubuntu logo, then that's a geeky question. (I mean this http://www.flickr.com/photos... ) - ۳۰ مرغ Loves Y'ALLLLL

I guess I'm a dirty old man. - D Lets from iPhone

Actually, I was going to ask what the gadget was on top of the microwave-minifridge combo. - Jay Cuthrell

I'm guessing it's an MP3 player (in the slot) and some kind of speaker array combo? - Jay Cuthrell

I guess the answer is: regardless of whatever you do, you are a geek :-) - Ethan Gahng

It would be a lot easier to tell if those three people were not in the way of the shiny thing in the back of the photo. - Jay Cuthrell

I think Robert took this photo just to keep me wondering all night about that mystery device. - Jay Cuthrell

Geek here :) I'd do a print 'Hello, Girls !' - Ahsan Ali

damn it Scoble! I have to like this. - rob friedman

looks like my weekends - sean percival

did they recognize you as the "scobleizer" ??? - ciw

New blog topic: the decline and fall of FriendFeed - A Mitchell

What's that coming over then hill? - Nick B.

"Well, hello there, sexy ladies! Would you like to come up to my place and read my @scobleizer feed? Hmm?" -bow-chicka-wow-wow- - Kevin Leroux

wow. I couldn't even make out what was that thing in the BG. I noticed the additional thumb/thigh in front -so that makes me a photo geek?? - jomarhilario

Oh my! Now I'm sure I'm not a geek! Hahaha they are beautiful as hell! - Rafael

if you find this picture of these attractive women on this page you are probably a geek...even if you don't read every single comment...including this one. - Lee Sachs

Some of us geeks know what we're doing with women. - Tyler Hurst

true dat,, you really can have it all - Zachary Adam Cohen from email

Oh, how gorgeous. You've got to love that Ipod design. - James Kuypers

I can tell the way the Hottie on da Right is looking at me that she really likes ME a lot!!! - Billy Warhol

@James I hereby award you the true geek award for your spotting of the iPod in this picture. =P (Special mention to the others who said MP3 player) - Silver iPod Nano I would think. - travispuk

Perhaps you need to add this app to your iPhone: http://www.beakerbreakers.com/nerdale... - Chad McCoskey from iPhone

Admit it: you told them you were Philip Seymour Hoffman. - Maxwell Kennerly

Two things. 1) Geeks do it better AND 2) they're not sluts... they're leveraging their assets... more power to them - Ankush Narula

davşan kızlara benziyorlar beaaa. - Pilot23

Really lol Scoble maybe u had been having 2 much fun @ the racetrack & geeks does attract some attractive wolla - polou/indigo_bow

Funny old world three attractive women in a fun pose at a launch party and it creates enormous interest? Funny how things never really change in human habits, geek yep that's me but this article made me smile a lot, keep snapping away Robert. - Ian Wright

If you are writing a disclaimer on a picture, you took at a party, because you don't want to be locked out of the house by your wife, you are a SMART geek:) - Maryam Scoble from iPhone

double like for Maryam :D - Alberto D'Ottavi

+1 Maryam - imabonehead

Best of day. - beersage

If you whip out your iPhone, take their picture, and bring them home .... you're a HOT geek ! - Christopher Yeo

Totally.... - N.G. Gordon - RadarSync

Keep up the good work Scoble! :-) - Garin Kilpatrick

Heh, love that Maryam commented on this. I miss her and my two buddies. I'm just wondering why TechCrunch doesn't have parties like Monster drinks! ;-) - Robert Scoble

Robert, you'll just have to bring a case or two of Monster to your next TC visit and see what happens.... just make sure the cam is on. - Jay Cuthrell

Jeez, I must not be geekish at all — *my* first thoughts are all carnal. - Hieronymus Murphy

Me, I'm a mutant. ;) - Dennis Jernberg

3 girls 2 cups - HansVanRock

Robert Scoble

Because @jowyang didn't tell me where he's going and I learned it anyway I am very tempted to tell the world to mess up his launch. :-)

August 24, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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so a startup then.. - Zee.

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But I won't, because he's my friend and so are the other people involved. :-) - Robert Scoble

Hmmmm... - Simon Young

I hear he'll announce it "within days" and it's a pretty interesting gig. - Robert Scoble

When will we find out Robert? - Dave "Freedom 35"

Are there cameras involved? - Simon Young

Funny. He didn't tell me because he thought I would tell everyone. :-) - Robert Scoble

so go ahead and tell us! : ) - Teri Gidwitz

Teri: believe me, I'm tempted, just to teach him a lesson! :-) - Robert Scoble

What I want to know: Who will replace him at Forrester? - Dave "Freedom 35"

BTW, I dig the new avatar, glad the green is gone ;) - Keith - @tsudo

Will he be interviewed on Building43? - Simon Young

Dave: not possible to replace him, sorry. - Robert Scoble

Well, payback is always worse. They're recruiting for a replacement at Forrester. Go look at his "former" blog; HR guy posted. - Teri Gidwitz

Same here. Green was getting a bit putrid. - Dave "Freedom 35"

Simon: nah, it's not a building43 kind of thing. - Robert Scoble

Big shoes indeed. - Dave "Freedom 35"

Oh. Interesting! - Simon Young

Robert - you post on the race for real time web is amazing - I really want to know where you see real time TV fitting into this? - James Stewart

Don't pull an Arrington, man. Be cool. - Daniel Fath

Nice going Robert, we all are looking forward to knowing when the time comes. - courtney benson

Damn... I got excited for a second that I may be among the first to know what he's up to. I guess I'll wait to find out along with everyone else! - Jodi Echakowitz

Daniel: it could be "JeremiahGate!" :-) - Robert Scoble

I think you guys are already breaking the ground by using Kyte etc and I tune in, but as a business channel in NZ I believe we need to be out there every day interviewing amazing people, streaming it live, enabling real time chats via FF and the Ustream intergration with facebook - I see facebook as the new TV platform that most people spend their time hanging out on and if they see an... more... - James Stewart

FF is pretty cool for these kinds of flash news teasers. :) - Dave "Freedom 35"

James: real time TV: http://friendfeed.com/search... Heheh. - Robert Scoble

haha oops - didn't know about that! - James Stewart

James: FriendFeed's real time search engine has a lot of cool features that never were explored. I really hope that's what they are going to do for Facebook. - Robert Scoble

thx Robert ....thats super cool - Johni Fisher

The problem is that most people that use the internet are still just getting on facebook, I am 25 and I only have a handful of people friends my age that twitter as they don't have a community on there they can identify with - I like what you said about Facebook Public - that is definitely where I see them going with some serious live streaming intergration. Facebook will win because... more... - James Stewart

Robert: True man, since I saw this partnership happen my head has been whizzing with ideas for the implications of it. >> Most of the people in my age group watch videos that have been shared on facebook by their friends and favourite groups. Definitely some new stuff with video on it's way - keep us posted! Thanks for the replies :) - James Stewart

Amazon? - Jesse Stay

Jesse: no and not Facebook either. :-) - Robert Scoble

Either your going to be a big tease or a tattle tale either of which will get you beaten up on the playground, so stop it (: - Kim Landwehr from BuddyFeed

DBAD - Josh Haley

Kim: heheh. - Robert Scoble

Robert. You're a friend, but you've a habit of breaking news --sometimes when folks aren't ready. It's not personal, but I just know your traits. I'm going to brief you in detail on Wed. We can do a video if you'd like --I'll come to you. Hugs? - Jeremiah Owyang

awww... ;-) - Chris Heath

Robert - hug Jeremiah, do the video - but insist he brings that little dog with him. IT is cute :) - Rob La Gesse

Will Robert put away his (fake) wounded pride and interview Jeremiah on Wednesday? Oh yes, he will - and now we have a deadline. Good work Robert! - Kami Huyse

bring @goodboyrumba along for the video! :) - Rachel Luxemburg

"Be excellent to each other." - Steve Rubel

Jeremiah: :-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

OK, can we flashmob to celebrate Jeremiah's new gig right after the interview? - Elliott Ng

Jeremiah: here is the deal. I am not under embargo but already know the news. So I think I will call Arrington because you didn't embargo me. Oh, and I +do+ keep embargoes. I am even keeping a secret about two things you will learn in the morning. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I still struggle with my 7 year old son to not steal his siblings' thunder in matters important to them. It's not easy for him. - Josh Haley

I know those two things, Robert. - Louis Gray

I know a lot of things, not even just two, but maybe not the two you are thinking of - Jesse Stay

Kami, I saw Robert yesterday, and I asked him if I'd hurt his feelings, he said "yes". Robert and I go back, there was a time (ustream launch) where we well, didn't coordinate on news. He's truly a friend, and someone I respect as a media trailblazer --but I need to get everything coordinated. To be clear, he was on the list of folks I'd brief in detail --others just got cursory info. - Jeremiah Owyang

Here's a long discussion on where Jeremiah Owyang will be going next. Interesting discussion developing on embargoes and 'bloggers' - Drew B

Lets figure out where he is going. Who is in most need of Jeremiahs incredible intelligence on social media? - Nisse

Drew, is it interesting that Robert is threatening me that I didn't tell him? Should bloggers assert themselves to get news? (it's a bit fun watching him get antsy) - Jeremiah Owyang

Jeremiah, I find the continual embargo deiscussions fascinating. I hope your trust is respected here. - Drew B from email

Is he going to disneyland? - Cliff Gerrish

Jeremiah: my feelings were hurt because you told pretty much everyone else in the industry other than me. Here's a hint: they can't keep their mouths shut either. But I will. You will know tomorrow that I actually do know the news. But the other deal is that you're wrong. I've kept hundreds of embargoes over the past year and haven't leaked them to anyone. If you weren't a friend and... more... - Robert Scoble

So they want the publicity you can bring but want to control the timing and message. I would be inclined to not agree as well. Sounds like you are being used. - Brian Sullivan

I hear news all the time about people who aren't necessarily friends but would generally want the news quiet - does this mean I should start leaking those details? I'm not sure the right answer to that. The problem though is often the way I hear about that information is through other friends who were trusted to keep the info private. Is it worth betraying the trust of those friends as well? - Jesse Stay

The problem comes maybe when you are "friends" with everybody but also are trying to be a legitimate reporter at the same time. We criticize television and newspaper reporters for this all the time but tech reportage seems to get a pass. - Brian Sullivan

Jesse, yeah your situations seem tough because if you leak, you're a jackass because someone else can't keep their mouth shut. - Chris Heath

Brian: everyone uses me, I'm used to it, it's part of the role I play in life. :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert, I was planning on telling you before the announcement --and the offer still stands. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, that wasn't my intent. - Jeremiah Owyang

What's the point here?? - Andru Edwards

nothing really andru, I say we just move along and let Robert and I handle this offline. Clearly, we need to work this out. - Jeremiah Owyang

Talking to Scoble now, I apologized. I take back what I said above, he's not broken any embargos in a while and I take that charge back. I also briefed him, as a friend, and more. Sorry Robert, I crossed the line. - Jeremiah Owyang

Ari - that's my guess too. - Hutch Carpenter

Now watch Scoble jump to Streamy right now to tell what Jeremiah is doing next. Ha! - Bryan R. Adams

This is funny! "JeremiahGate" got love it :) - Susan Beebe

Scoble is very good at keeping secrets and creating Buzz! :) - Susan Beebe

Thanks Jeremiah! Excited for you. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I want a "Gate" named after me :-) - Jesse Stay

Robert, excellent start at creating the "buzz" for @jowyang 's launch LOL - j damon brown

Link Baiting 101: Start a fight with Scoble. - Jason Calacanis

Once again, calacanis ftw - Chris Heath from iPhone

Dude, why would you do that? I knew where you were going both times, and I kept it to myself. I coulda broken it, but why violate trust. - Jeremy Pepper

Jeremy: who you talking to? No one has violated any trust. We're all cool now anyway. - Robert Scoble

Jeremy: and when I left Microsoft someone DID violate my trust and leaked it within hours. So what? It all works out. Coordination is overrated. - Robert Scoble

LOL Jason. But Robert is right, co-ordination can be overrated. - Ian Betteridge

Group hug. - Jeremiah Owyang

Jeremiah - your recognition and classifications/categorizations of trends and strategies is truly unique. Thank you for all you've done at Forrester. Whatever your new role is, I hope you'll continue to share your thoughts. - A Mitchell

Robert Scoble

I'm getting ready for our Facebook overlords by cleaning out my Facebook friend lists. 700 deleted already and 4,000 to go.

August 16, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Patrik: no, my profile. http://www.facebook.com/RobertS... - Robert Scoble

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My page is at http://www.facebook.com/scoblei... - Robert Scoble

how much time you spend online? you are virtually living online...;) - testbeta

Robert what did you think of the Washington Post piece on FF sale and it's Facebook implications? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn... - Peter du Toit (S.Africa)

Smart move. Page is the future as far as interaction with a community goes, even if it's not yet there. Profiles are fun but become overwhelming when too many people. No real connections being made. - Paul Papadimitriou from iPhone

Delete Your Facebook Page is the new Kill Your Television. RT @CourtneyReimer - A Mitchell

Is this like how you cleaned up your Twitter account Robert? - Rob Cairns

My reason? Noise. It is different than my Twitter cleanup because I don't need to delete everyone first. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Doesn't Facebook have the ability to move all your friends over to your "page"? (If you contact their support desk, that is.) Then you'd just have to add back the people that are actually your real-live friends. - Christopher A. Wichura

Does this mean I actually get to be Robert Scoble's friend on Facebook now? ;-) - Jesse Stay

There doesn't seem to be any way to move friends to your fan page which would be ideal. I really hate the idea of deleting 5000 fans. There are some advantages to friends, too. For example, I know the birthdays of my 5000 "friends" and can wish them a happy birthday. - Leo Laporte

Jesse - same here *crosses fingers* - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed

Yikes!! Hope I'm still in there : P - Ellen Spencer

Well this Gran is seriously thinking about leaving Facebook, I am fed up of all those updates from folks about the blasted app games! That's all you get on there now! :( - Technogran

Dave Winer

FB buying FF is bad news for FF users.

August 10, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Agree totally Dave - Roberto Bonini from iPhone

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Why do you think so Dave? - Tim Akinbo

10000% agree, its dreadul and the big boys like Leo and Scoble cant seem to see it! - Mark

Leo laporte says "This is a big step toward an open Facebook. This has been their goal all along: a distributed Facebook." What a Crock of SHITE - Mark

They bought the people! - Mark

yeah... but it is also a smart move, they got the team.. - Rob Sellen :o)

I'm trying to give the FF team the benefit of the doubt...but I'm having a hard time with it as well. - Ken Kennedy

Born to be sold, we were used to say in the new economy era. - Federico Bolsoman

They bought the people. We Stick with that. FF guys are Smart/fast and have deep Google knowledge - Marco Massarotto from iPhone

Woah. I step away from the computer for a couple hours and this is what happens? - Travis B. Hartwell

I agree an independent Friendfeed might be preferable for we few brave FF users. But the writing was on the wall. For most users it's Twitter or Facebook or nothing at all. Aligning with Facebook is smart long term thinking if FB is planning to open up as I am convinced they are. - Leo Laporte from BuddyFeed

Let's hope that FB doesn't block people from using the 'competeition' while on FF. - shelter watch

Seems everything's headed for an autumn war Facebook <> Google Wave - Jordi Soler

At first I like the idea of FF & FB, but now I'm starting to think it's bad for FF - Ray H

hmm, an open, new version of FB that uses all of what makes FF great would be nice. - Dusty Edenfield

Leo's got the right idea, and independence is a myth - Steve Gillmor

Well, how could it possibly be a good thing? - Fleagle

Agree, I'm not a Facebook fan although I try but.. I'd definitely take FF over FB anyday. - Sharon Dexter

I prefer a FriendFeed folded into Facebook versus a FriendFeed that quietly fades away, which is the direction this was going. - Mike Doeff

Totally agree - facebook is so tedious and slow. FF is wonderful. - Zphotogal

+1 mike - Riaz Kanani

We imagine FB with the SEO juice of FF, thus intercepting search traffic... - Marco Massarotto from iPhone

I can certainly see the best ideas from FF being folded into FB but not sure what that says about the future of this site and the data it contains - Keith Harrison

Except for the whole FriendFeed dying slowly in the obscure ghetto of the digirati part. As Mike said, FF in FB is better than no FF at all. FriendFeed users are far better off having it than watching it its gradual anemia grow worse and worse until one day it vanishes. - Curtis Schweitzer

While this may never happen, consider it a possibility - your entire FB feed now available in FF. - Tim Akinbo

It is really hard to see how FB will do more than incorporate staff and ideas from FF. FriendFeed's design of being a very open aggregator is very different than FB's walled garden ethic. I also think part of what attracted me to prefer FF over FB is the clean interface, as opposed to FB fire-in-a-bordello presentation style. I hope FB really listens on the UI side and not just on the aggregator side, or works just mines out the staff. - David Lounsbury

This is a good thing for FF and FB both. This will lead to a more open FB and steal Twitter's thunder. - Tim

"the writing on the wall?" ... that's just hyperbole, Leo. Paul Buchheit himself said in his interview w/ Scoble that they could have kept the service alive "for years"...there was no financial issue forcing this, like tr.im or something. And while I suppose there are those that believe the most popular site/music/art/people are always the best, I think that's both a shallow way of... more... - Ken Kennedy

Like 4 Ken - Marco Massarotto from iPhone

What I care about most is having a Facebook profile that is *actually* public, viewable by non-users. - Andrew Roche

I definitely DONT LIKE IT grmphhh ! - laetSgo

@andrew that's one thing FF team is very good at: climbing Google :) - Marco Massarotto from iPhone

DOnt like it either. I'm off to a self hosted http://sweetcron.com/ or wait for a http://kakuteru.com/ invite. - Mario Valente

One thing that can be said about social communities - its the people who build the product. Had we not given excellent feedback to FriendFeed developers in creating our perfect world FB wouldn't have had an interest. Its our fault. :( - JCunwired

i'll agree to wait this one out before being totally devastated about Facebook buying FriendFeed - Chris Heath

Let's leave "en masse" - Giorgio Burlini from iPhone

Facebook is banned from my work computer. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

Live *open* BadHair podcast in 8 minutes. (347) 843-4661. Call in if you have a comment or question re FB/FF. Starts in 3 minutes. - Dave Winer

Wait and see ... - Kate Foy

It means you'll have to share. wahhhhh - Andrew Smith

I think it is a bad idea. I don't like to use Facebook except for frivolous reasons. FF has been good for reliable information. I suppose I'll stop using it so much now. We'll see. - Barbara K. Iverson

I want to see where this is going but definitely my favorite social site just got folded into my least favorite. - Braden Douglass

It depends entirely on what direction FF would have taken next (and what direction it will take Dave). Think most of us that have been around FF since almost the start (when it was a MUCH smaller place) miss that but this actually might be a good thing. - Charlie Anzman

Agreed if they lose the FF interface. - Wei-Yen Tan

If we put all our faith into a single platform or a single solution [Twitter/FB/Goog] then we lose touch with people, processes and where history is taking us. In this case, we’re headed more in the direction of where .tel and Identi.ca are stumbling, consciously or not: towards a non-web-centric, permission-based polycephalous set of systems, where discussions and messaging transpire... more... - A Mitchell

Google Wave is coming to replace all this stuff. And Google Reader will get more social features including item recommendations through comparing users likes, and so Google will win this. Good time to sell. - Charbax

Interesting convo we had there dave, thanks for letting us call in and participate. - Chris Heath

But the real question is who will take over who? Isn't there a possibility that FriendFeed will takeover Facebook! I hope FB make it work as I like the idea of FF but it doesn't have the critical mass of people talking about what I am interested in! - Phillip Molly Malone

Very bad I'm sure there will be some changes - Annika from Nambu

I agree it's probably bad news for FF users.FF has reliable info. I don't want it to become chatter. - Leigh Marriner

I'll admit to being a recent convert to FF but it was the best social site I have used yet (and I have used them all). I am sorry to see it lose it's independence. This will not end well for FF groupies. But my reading of the tea leaves is that FF options as a standalone service were not good. I guess this is a sign of a maturing market. Can a Larry Ellison acquisition be far behind? - Michael Liss

simply but clear - Gioia Feliziani

I agree with Dave's original assertion. I'm struggling to imagine the value Facebook could add to FriendFeed, and I can certainly imagine the downsides. Having an aggregator that sits independently on top of the commercial pile, while fleeting as a free service, is a valuable one. - Allred

disagree. - Gus

I have my suspicions too. But Facebook have been wanting to open up more for some time (e.g., they're eliminating regional networks), and I'm guessing they see FF as the key. I'm betting they'll fuse the two services soon. But let's hope they use FF to improve FB. But there's always a big chance FB will ruin FF. Stay tuned... - Dennis Jernberg

+1 for A Mitchell's insights. If tr.im and FF have taught us anything, it's that no matter how many open api's there are, a closed platform is still a closed platform, and it can disappear overnight. We need a decentralized yet federated way to do all that FF did (and more). If it's not decentralized, we don't have redundancy. if it's not federated, we lose community an conversation. - Don Faulkner from BuddyFeed

another +1, Don and A Mitchell. I just finished a blog post along almost exactly the same lines, Don...decentralization and federation are both key. Good news is, this is historically how things go...nerds only, then mainstream joins, but centralized (think AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy...services and email that couldn't talk to each other). As the systems mature, then value of decentralization becomes apparent. This week could actually be an important milestone in speeding up that process *here's to hoping...*. - Ken Kennedy

But Facebook buying friendfeed is great news for the 250+ million fb users! (And most ff users have fb :) - Garin Kilpatrick

It would have been better (slightly) if they were acquired by Twitter. I'm not a Twitter fan, but I think FF would bring more to twitter, it would be a better fit and the users and the interface would have a better chance at "integration" - Mario Valente

I've read its good for FF, it's bad for FF. It's better than being sold to google, it's better than being sold to twitter. Myriad variations on a theme, which leads me to conclude we haven't got a clue what the future will bring. - Mark

FB will better integrate FF than Google or others ever would -- one hopes. let's see what happens and go from there. Good news is that it will generate a ton of news for you peeps to report on. - Gavin Adams

It's simply time for a distributed story for this type of application. You shouldn't need to rely on any providers who can be down or might be bought. - Christian Scholz

"Google Wave is coming to replace all this stuff." And lock you into yet another platform owned by one company. - Ian Betteridge

@Ian...Wave is a federated, decentralized, (to be) open-sourced solution. It's complicated, but it's at worst an architecture lock-in (ie, it might be hard to move a large corpus of Wave-annotated data out of the Wave infrastructure). Unless Google is pulling a flat-out lying fast one...there won't be any reason why you can't run your "own" instance of Wave and connect to the rest of the Net. So not standard company lock-in. - Ken Kennedy

Ken, to be honest, I'll believe it when I see companies other than Google taking the code and running an equivalent service. Flat out lying? No, probably not. But "only able to do something useful if you're connected to Google in some way"? Probably. - Ian Betteridge

@Ian, I hear ya, but I've read enough of the technical specs to lay my money on the other side of that bet. - Ken Kennedy

At least Google is one company that's not likely to turn coat on its social community and sell out. - JCunwired

Really? I think the old Jaiku community would disagree with you on that. And the people who stored their bookmarks in Google Bookmarks, too. - Ian Betteridge

why? - Thomas Power

Sorry - I meant Google Browser Sync rather than Google Bookmarks. One is dead, the other alive and well(ish). But the point is that Google has a track record of killing or abandoning services when it suits. - Ian Betteridge

True, Ian. Google's "do no evil" doesn't keep them from killing things that aren't panning out for their world domination strategy. They're marginally more saintly than Facebook. - Sean Gallagher

Is it because of the Facebook ad approach that Dave W and Scoble are looking to jump ship on FriendFeed? - Sean Gallagher

Sean: I'm not jumping ship. But I will follow early adopters wherever they go. - Robert Scoble

Or Google Notebook. Even given that and Jaiku, though, which did do a blow to my faith in Google, I would rather a Google-FriendFeed than a Facebook-FriendFeed. Mostly because I think they'd let it do its own thing rather than assimilate it. They left YouTube pretty well alone. Oh well. - Jandy

disagree with FF and LI nxt year bottled up inside Facebook this forces Google MS and Apple to get seriously social and start playing rather than just watching. Google-Twitter, Apple-Facebook versus Microsoft-Bing now that's a battle I want to (socially) watch with all you guys. Oh what fun. Can't wait. - Thomas Power

I'm not sure Facebook or FriendFeed are entities whose well-being I value so highly; users, I care about, and having FriendFeed developper work their magic, their talent and their stand for open standard to benefit 300M people sounds more important to me then having them spend more time tailoring the digerati's private network. I'm far for believing you can't improve FriendFeed, but I'd... more... - Bertil Hatt

@Bertil_Hatt: if there's one thing that FriendFeed isn't it's a private network. Facebook is the one who, on the other hand, operates like a "walled garden" or a private condo. - Miguel Caetano

Only if you believe the FF has a sustainable business model? - Gary Walter (gwalter)

FF is F'ed - Shivanand Velmurugan

Veronica

I'm sorry, I just don't see the big deal about tr.im. For one, no one should be dependent on URL shorteners. On top of that. bit.ly is better anyway, and there are tons of other options out there. Tr.im users, why so broken up?

August 9, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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I wish there was more discussion on pURL http://purl.org but perhaps shortening is just lard in the frying pan. - Jay Cuthrell

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yeah i don't see any reason to become attached to one URL shortener over another. never made sense to me. i use them all, with a slight emphasis on bit.ly and tinyurl - Dr. Frank Ramblings, Ph.D

Gruber had good reasoning for writing his own URL shortener for his blog. He doesn't have to worry about links going dead. - Joshua

Veronica: some of us used tr.im in our Tweets. Some of us hope our links never break. Some of us are sad. Anyone who has put anything into Twitter probably is depending on URL shorteners. Oh, I get it, you are asking why are any of us depending on Twitter. Well, now, THAT is an interesting question! - Robert Scoble

yea, i don't know what the big deal was did i miss something because i never heard of tr.im until this story, I always use bit.ly or tinyurl, Aslo you think it might because most twitter clients got pick what url shortener you use. - Fee501st

Fee501st: what would you say if bit.ly was the one who did this? - Robert Scoble

+1 for pURL. last time I looked it need an updated interface though - Marshall Kirkpatrick

If you're dependent on URL shorteners to use twitter, you should blame twitter for requiring a third-party work around in order to make up for a deficiency in their platform. - Andy Bakun

Andy: I already have. Why do you think I use FriendFeed so often? Now, what if FriendFeed decides to call it quits? Probably won't happen because there's a lot of passionate rich people behind FriendFeed, but it could happen. It's happened to me before (the first two years of my blog are gone because I depended on a third-party service). - Robert Scoble

Robert: i be kinda miffed that my old links don't work, but I don't think i post many tweets that people want to see months or years from now, but i would just move to another tiny url service. Also another reason i like FF better no need for a tiny url. - Fee501st

If FF called it quits it be sad day, how else would i bug Veronica ;P - Fee501st

To me, the issue isn't tr.im, but how it reflects on the entire ecosystem. What happens if Bit.ly gets hacked? What happens to all of those links? We shouldn't be dependent on them, but that would kill millions of links on Twitter, Facebook, blogs, etc. Worse, they could be hacked and redirected to malware. - Ben Parr

But like Veronica said on twit, i normally expand the url before i click on it. - Fee501st

even on other url shorten services? - Fee501st

Maybe HTML6 needs an autoexpand for short URLs. The URL could be short in the text, but the full URL is in the HTML and a rollover expands it. Then even if short URL services die, all the existing links still work. - dthree

I wrote about this issue here: http://scobleizer.com/2009... - Robert Scoble

From an article (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technol...) I wrote in April - "URL shorteners - my biggest concern with this market is its future. Twitter has created a need for them by enforcing a character limit. Through tweeted discussions we click links from people we trust and the worst that can happen is being RickRoll’d. Given that mobile... more... - Dan Monsieurle

Without a doubt, there are fundamental issues with URL shorteners in general. In some cases it's impossible to post a link on Twitter without an URL shortener (try linking a Google search result page). In the case of tr.im it is the loss of user tracking that hurts the most. Like with many services on the Web, it's not the service itself but the interconnectivity that makes it valuable. - Henning von Vogelsang

I use a greasemonkey script (http://userscripts.org/scripts...) to un-shorten them on Twitter but I really don't see the big issue with Tr.im links going dead on twitter - who is actually going that far back through people's tweets? And if people are using them on blogs etc. then why aren't they just using the proper URL - I'd be VERY suspicious of usage when character count is not an issue! - Amy

of course, what's to say that the original full sized link becomes dead? How many of the sites you visited in the late 90's/early 2000's are still around? site relaunches/redesigns, editorial choices to pull items, entire companies ceasing to exist, people moving ISP/web host and data being lost or rejected in the process... The inherent nature of linking is wrought with dead ends as... more... - alphaxion

sorry for the caps, but WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HTML??? - Chris Heath

Tr.im’s value comes from access to real-time traffic intelligence. Perfect for advertisers. Tr.im could be worth $4.5 million. First-time sellers (like first-time buyers) often don’t know how to work with investment bankers and are reluctant to do so. They don’t understand deal steps or the psychological aspects of strategic transactions and consequently fall victim to self-inflicted... more... - A Mitchell

I agree, I don't see this as any kind of warning other than an obvious "what took so long" observation that building an audience before the business plan is a good way to spend lots of money with nothing to show for it. There are only a few, very few lucky companies who might be able to pull that off, and even they are not exactly rolling in the (revenue) cash [Twitter]. - chipmason

Tr.im = only service providing dedicated URLs, with editing capabilities. Absolutely superior to Bit.ly. Awesome stats, by country and browser type. Ability to massage custom URLs, unlike Bit.ly, which is hit-or-miss and clumsy in that department. On the liability side, can you imagine litigating an IP or free-speech case in Libya? - A Mitchell

"Oh, I get it, you are asking why are any of us depending on Twitter. Well, now, THAT is an interesting question!" No, Scoble, I was not asking that (but nice baiting attempt). I don't think anyone should be dependent on URL shorteners, tr.im, bit.ly or otherwise. In the grand scheme of things, they're URLs for the short term and shouldn't be used as permalinks in blog posts, etc. It's a fundamental flaw. - Veronica

Agreed, URL shortening is an absurd business model. Its something that should be handled on a site-by-site basis; if I owned bit.ly or tr.im or any other shortening service, I'd be selling for my six-digits ASAP as my days are numbered. - Andrew Leahey

I think i depend more on FF then Twitter, also just remember links breaks on the internet, no matter who there from, I mean any site hit with a hard time can go away. A few years ago whoever though Geocities would go away - Fee501st

whoever knew geocities was still around? - Chris Heath

^ Won't be in few more weeks heh - Fee501st

i guess it was a self-fulfilling prophecy then - Chris Heath

Speaking of change did any of you do the Blind Search Engine test? http://blindsearch.fejus.com/ I got Google for Web, and Bling for images - Fee501st

Anyone using URL shorteners for links that should be persistent has no one to blame but themselves, unless of course you use Twitter and its default, then feel free to blame Twitter if that breaks. - Tinfoil 2.0

yeah, I don't get the uproar about this. 1) URL shorteners exist only for Twitter. 2) tr.im is and always has been an also-ran in the space. 3) Anyone trying to build a business off of URL shortening (and not using it as a supplement to their real business) is out of their mind. - Chieze Okoye

I agree. Who uses shortened URLs as a replacement for true URLs? Who would even consider doing that? Rhetorical question, as the only people depending on shortened URLs are hacks who don't understand the true infrastructure of the web. There are too many social media 'experts.' The value of a shortened URL is in it's disposability and the potential data garnered. - Dan Patterson

I like the approach that http://thereallymobileproject.com has taken. The team also has http://trmp.tv to provide short permalinks for each post. - Dan Monsieurle

Fee, I did try the blind search before the end of twit (it was back up) with a vanity search (which i knew the google results for already) but my sites cam up first in one of the blind searches so i picked that (google has wikipedia article first) and it was yahoo... for images i ended up picking google on a guess that it was google... none of my pictures were in the top results (and i kind of like that) .... enough parens for ya'? - Chris Heath

and about the topic at hand... it seems a no brainer that a link (or links) could be easily added to the transport of microblog messages outside of the 140 character limit (as dave winer has proposed) but the SMS is the limiting factor here i guesss so for SMS there should be a different way to handle the links (either that or drop SMS entirely since the phone companies seem to charge exorbitant amounts per byte for SMS data) - Chris Heath

Dan P, 100% correct (IMHO). - Veronica

Never know where you are going to go when you click on one of those anyway never liked them - Robert Burgin

Thanks Veronica. It's odd to me that this is even a discussion, and demonstrates the disconnect between the ever-growing gap between those who claim to be 'experts,' and those with a true understanding of the web. Now, I can see some value in a branded URL shortener as it might lend trust to the link (I trust small company X, any therefor my trust is transfered to a branded link from... more... - Dan Patterson

Speaking of FF, Facebook Acquires FriendFeed? http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... What? - Fee501st

Tiny url are BAD, really BAD, take a look : http://www.codinghorror.com/blog... & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... & http://userscripts.org/scripts... - TiTi

but the older a link is, the greater the likelihood of the original breaking anyway... - alphaxion

When you started talking about this on TWiT I thought you were going in the opposite direction. - kenneth glenn

URL shorteners are bleeding edge. They need to mature. Sites or webmail that use them need to start decoding them. It needs to become like zipping and unzipping. That way only the transmission relies on them and any archival usage (like a website) just decodes them. Problem solved. They can expire in weeks that way. This model, btw, is already heavily used in transaction processing in business, cable modems, and so on. - Dave Friedel

and microblogging iPhone apps (like LaTwit) ... LaTwit will show me the actual URL, not the shortened URL... also identispy and twitterspy (dustin's IM/jabber clients do the same) - Chris Heath

Zee. to Zee.'s feed, TheNextWeb Forum, Appetite

Poll: Do you use Twitter SMS? (update: and if u do, why?)

August 7, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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not me - Jodi

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me - Jesse Stay

Me don't. - Ton Zijp

nope. - Müjdat Korkmaz

DMs only. - Tinfoil 2.0

SMS is the only thing available when there is no 3G or Edge - SMS is crucial for that reason - Jesse Stay

I use SMS for DMs and updates when I'm away from a computer. - jbrotherlove

+1 Jesse - Zee.

Nope...can't afford it. - David Sandey from Friend Deck

I don't. I have UberTwitter. But like Jesse said, if I had a regular phone, then I would probably use it. - Shevonne

Nope - Roberto Bonini

only for DMs - Dave Hodson

nope. - Abhishek

no. SMS posting doesn't work at Japan market - kazuhiko

Yes - Ben Hanten

Yes, no computer access at work, limited data plan, but unlimited SMS. - Rui Pereira from iPod

Just to post when I can't get tweetie to load. - Sullivan from iPhone

I use sms to receive DMs and sometimes to post if edge is down. - Ward Seward

I did when I didn't have a smart phone with a twitter app, and wanted to send out updates while out and about. also, mymilemarker uses twitter so you can update your gas mileage from the pump, so I used it for that. - chrisofspades

As an interim to better Push Twitter apps, yes. Though why @replies don't get sent to me is a bloody mystery? >:-S - CannonGod

no. - Aron Michalski from BuddyFeed

DMs only - Karoli

rarely - Grant Bierman

No. I use TwitterBerry on my BlackBerry and FriendFeed on my desktop. - Skyler Call

Only for @trackthis updates, since I'm not glued to my Twitter clients on 'puter or phone. - JCunwired

Once in a long while I update from my phone. Since I work at home most of the time I am just on my box. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons

never!!! - Igor Buhovec

Yes since I don't have web access on my cellphone. - Manuel Mas

No way. - Bonnie Foster

I would never use it - Mike Doeff from iPhone

I use it, yup. I get updates from my local newspaper sent via SMS and the occasional person who I find entertaining/interesting (@badbanana right now). - Mitch

no - N.G. Gordon - RadarSync

Rarely. If I'm in a spot where there's nothing else to do, yes - LANjackal

No. I don't use Twitter on my phone because I'd get charged for everything. Plus a laptop keyboard wins over a phone keyboard. - Spidra Webster

no, sms is the most expensive form of communication that can be purchased i pay $5 for 200 sms msgs a month and even the $20 per month unlimited plan is a ripoff... SMS should be inlcluded in your plans... #attfail - Chris Heath

sort of. I use a free SMS API key from Zeep Mobile to send Tweets to my own web server via the Zeep Mobile shortcode. from there my Twitter OAuth credential is employed to post the tweet to Twitter, it also gets sent via OMB protocol to different servers such as army.twit.tv and identi.ca and it goes out from my site as RSS. three of these arrive at FriendFeed, which annoys everyone. - Brian Hendrickson

No need with SimplyTweet's push notifications on the iPhone. Although on very rare occasions I use SMS to update via HelloTxt. - Grey Drane from BuddyFeed

No. Not available in Sweden i think? - Svartling

No, not available in Belgium. I would have used it not to update, but to be instantly notified of @ and direct replies. Now the iPhone has push functionalities I have no longer a need for Twitter SMS in Belgium anymore. - Bart Muskala - AdNerd Sr. from twhirl

I can't. I live in Italy... :-( - SKAgnozzo

Not since we closed Twe2.com ;) - Paul Kinlan

Nope. - Kol Tregaskes

Yes and it serves as insurance in the unlikely event that I’m ever arrested or otherwise in trouble in a strange place. SMS – to SMS can be slow and unreliable between some U.S. carriers (T-Mobile to Sprint, for example) whereas SMS-to-Twitter is more reliable. Last month I was on a trackless trolley, on my way to meet a friend. When the trolley broke down, I sent an SMS-to-Twitter and at the same time sent an SMS directly to my friend. He received the Twitter message first. - A Mitchell

Cool! I suspect SMS may one day in the not-so-distant future become obsolete as everyone starts using smartphones and the statstream. - Grey Drane from IM

No. Not available in Belgium. - Walter De Vos

Teeth Maestro

@faisalqureshi no - but conversations are far more organised - I feel the only reason I'm not hoping with FF is because the crowd is in twit

July 29, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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@faisalqureshi Your best tweets are like dropping a rose down the Grand Canyon and waiting for an echo. Twitter is too one-directional and way too time consuming. The 'like' function will give you better exposure on FF cuz your best postings will rise to the top and be supplemented by comments from interesting people. You can always start a post on FF, route it to Twitter with a link back to FF. On FF you can also edit your own posts whenever you choose. - A Mitchell

On FF if someone spams one of your threads, you can block them and they will never appear on any of the discussions that you start again. This gives you power to shape and protect your discussions and ideas. - A Mitchell

Dare Obasanjo

Surprised that the new Twitter home page emphasizes search and not communication. Doesn't seem like a great way to encourage new users

July 28, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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I love searching the Twitter stream as much as the next guy, but it is hard to trust anything I see on Twitter. I always confirm the news with a real news source before spreading the "news" on Twitter. - Rob McNair-Huff

seems it would be directed at bots/commercial uses - clarke thomas

"Twitter's front page reminds me of most of the men I've dated: accommodating when things are new, but not very helpful once I've signed up." RT @CourtneyReimer - A Mitchell

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