aerobroken - Comments

That poor cat looks so confused. - Kendra <3 Three Lions

but it's so warm on top of the scanner! - DJF

Time for a cat scan! - Jemm

Iz I the right way up for printing? - Vicky

This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws. - Soup

LOL, Soup! - Kol Tregaskes

that is one adorable kitten! - Anna Lynn M.

<3 - Furkan Tunalı

Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out... - Greg Lato

Kitty!!!! - Janice

keep trying! - Morgan Haley

FEED ME A CAT - teh Dork Knight aka Kenny

Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying. - Steven Perez

Push harder - Josh Haley

LOL@Jemm - AJ Batac

آخی - یک بابک

Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

1 closer....hilarious! - Jeffrey Marsh

There we go 150 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez.... - Stephanie Segel

I think you mean a LIVE cat… - Glen Mistletoe

thanks, i needed a laugh - chaz2b

FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED - Karl Knechtel

iz dat some copycat? - bora "head" basman

LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer! - Threepwood

Just one more like... please. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's over two huuunddreeeed - bora "head" basman

MOAR! - Pat Hawks

I need 9 copies please ! - Faraz Mullick

A cute cat :) - Mohammad Abdurraafay

Haha, Faráz. - Kol Tregaskes

Next target, 250 likes. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

اخي...گناهي - noonii

Friendfeed loev faxcat :o - Karl Knechtel

;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Pussy by fax. What will they think of next? - Mattb4rd

X)) - Nia

OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic. - Alistair (alpinefolk)

You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!! - Kol Tregaskes

Kol, this thread is pure genius. - Alex Scoble

But only almost 50 comments.. :) - Simon Wicks

Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate! - Ivan Zuzak

Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

there we go then for the 1500+!! - Jaap Willem

1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers. - Simon Wicks

Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy! - Kol Tregaskes

Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again. - JSNFLMNG

¡Excelente! - Marcos Vicente

I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder - anna sauce

Hehe, Anna. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P - Richard A.

I'd like again if I could :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

bump - Simon Wicks

Richard, LOL! - Kol Tregaskes

Awesomely funny! - Martha

Next target: 400 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

theres one more for you Kol - Toby Graham

Toby, you're very kind. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Cute *_* - Sybelle

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

can you spare a cat 6 likes? - JSNFLMNG

sweet - Eric Hofmann

Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT. - Mike Nayyar

Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Awesome. - Alex Scoble

this is underfaksink at its worzt - Petr Buben

Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" .. - Petr Buben

Ah, OK, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :] - Petr Buben

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

433 Like ! Wow ! - Like

Freemor, yes very cute! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

cute~ - Chan Pen

that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax. - Phil Maxwell

oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink - Petr Buben

Just 5 more likes needed. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Try rolling the cat through a press first. Flat cats fit into the fax easier. - Bob Blunk

Fax, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Ok, over the top now. - Greg Guitarbuster

Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes). - Roberto Bonini

I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little - Steve C

Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

They fax much better if you flatten them first. What? - Kevin Pedraja

LOL, Kevin. - Kol Tregaskes

i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED! - sofarsoShawn

Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Countdown! 8 more now! - Mike Nayyar

bump for more likes - Josh Haley

bump - Roberto Bonini

One more!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I took mine away, too much pressure. - Steve C

Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that. - Kendra <3 Three Lions

меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот - Парадокс Смейла

пиздец как! - getalifejerk

Kendra, absolutely. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all! - Kol Tregaskes

My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik - getalifejerk

did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

wish I could double like! - metalerik

Wish I could just like it at all. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-) - Kol Tregaskes

But it's a cat being crushed... - Richard A.

برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟ - H.M.Nasrabadi

Hehe, Richard. - Kol Tregaskes

copy cat - gibilix

518 like! most liked post? - Lu Tao

ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :)) - Arzu

Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

*bump* - Andre

Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!! - Kol Tregaskes

So we know how many people use this site. - Richard A.

So that's what Paws Printing means. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

Richard, we getting there. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Jack, hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

this thread is making history. - vijay

Indeed .. this is a most epic thread - Mattb4rd

Hehe. 9 more for 550! - Kol Tregaskes

8... - sofarsoShawn

7. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this" - sofarsoShawn

Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get??? - Roberto Bonini

Gosh, no idea. - Kol Tregaskes

take some bets then come back in a year to check? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

:) - SokooteDel

Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes! - Mattb4rd

552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

560! - sofarsoShawn

And back down to 559. Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo? - Susan Beebe

I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat! - Rich

Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

564! - sofarsoShawn

I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken - JSNFLMNG

maybe a good way to clone cats :) - Roberto

Hehe, Roberto. - Kol Tregaskes

This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!? - Kol Tregaskes

It could! Keep bumping it up! - imabonehead

It will :) - Roberto Bonini

My next cat post: http://beta.friendfeed.com/the-fun... - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-) - j1m

No yet. Close though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Stuck on 581. - Kol Tregaskes

Most liked FF post ever? - Kristian Salonen

One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-) - John Collis

Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John. - Kol Tregaskes

ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی - Maryaminaa

11 more to 600. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟ - Exir

هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D - Shayan

Hehe, 6 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600 - Josh Haley

Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's 598+3, at the moment ;-) - Andre

There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!! - Kol Tregaskes

3 people un liked :( - Roberto Bonini

I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well. - Kol Tregaskes

too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;) - JSNFLMNG

Haha, Jason. - Kol Tregaskes

614!!!!! - sofarsoShawn

Whoa! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)] - Petr Buben

Petr, who's he? - Kol Tregaskes

omg, this post passed 600 likes! - imabonehead

@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there .. - Petr Buben

I see. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Day 11 and this thing's still going! - Phil Maxwell

Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-) - Willem (@wim66) ☠

whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible - Megan Craig

Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry! - Jérôme Flipo

Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography? - sofarsoShawn

Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-) - sofarsoShawn

this makes me laugh every darn time I see it - Stephanie_Thankful

Who is this NShawnFW? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

kitties do like to find new spots to nap :) - Maryam

LOL, now over 650 likes. - Kol Tregaskes

این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟ - Maryaminaa

Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol? - Roberto Bonini

Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it will - Seltoon

what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :) - Maryaminaa

Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

lol - Maryaminaa

I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture - Kevin J Hatton

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE. - Kris Roley

Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead - Mattb4rd

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

10 more likes for 700! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

7 more by my count! - Bec Rowe @d0tski

Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy? - aerobroken

It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or... - sofarsoShawn

OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not so bad huh? \u) - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

try harder! ; )) - Didier Lahely

Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-) - Rick Cogley

Caturday is tommorow ... Fax Cat on Saturday .. - johnpiercy

Must try this at home! - Anthony K. Valley ©

Bumping some old great posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Now THAT is a classic! - Allan Besselink

you have to flatten it first!!! ;) - Neda S.

This is very good humor! - TrafficBug

Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

just a couple thousand to go - JSNFLMNG

LOL - Smeerch

__awesome__ - Matteo Scotuzzi

and it got resurrected once again! - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy. - Seth Greenblatt

Best viewed from photostream. Excellent!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes from Bookmarklet

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That is AWESOME - Josh Haley

That's really cool. No way I'd have the planning ability to do that. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Nifty! - @CrystalinaB

that's awesome. - Alfredo

Oh wow.. they even compensated for the gaps between the pictures. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Fabulous! - Penny

Can I FAV that stream!?!? That is awesome! - Justin Korn

Nice! - Nicholas James

Clever. - Mike Nayyar

Check Daniel's share of this two: http://ff.im/2rPZM. Like that he's captured the photostream screenshot. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I did something similar some time ago: http://tr.im/k13U and http://tr.im/k142 but in sets not photostream. Anyway this guy work is nicer, mine was just an experiment. - Leandro Ardissone ⍨

Leandro, that is excellent! - Kol Tregaskes

Brilliant - Michael Fidler

THAT is really creative! - Scott of Two Countries

i agree with creative. - امیر؟

Sweet, What a great idea! - aerobroken

Bumping some old good posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

This reminds me of when Cartoon Network opened their vaults and showed all their controversial and racially insensitive Warner Bros. cartoons in a special, but then never showed them again. I wonder why Disney hasn't done something similar. - cecily from iPhone

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Akiva and I were just talking about this a few days ago. Is it available to view anywhere now? - Rochelle from iPhone

There are bootlegs, Rochelle. It was released on laserdisc and in other countries, but not here. The last theatrical release in the U.S. was in 1986. - Derrick

I can see why. But I did love those stories as a kid. - Trish R

I've never seen the film, and I'm keen on reading the original stories by Joel Chandler Harris. I'd like to think that we can get to the point where we can view material that is racially insensitive WITHOUT all of a sudden blaming people. The movie was made in 1946, it's nearly 2010. Am I going to look at my non-black friends and go on an attack? Unlikely, but perhaps I give people too much credit. - Derrick

I agree, Derrick, because the stories are written as being told by Uncle Remus, who spoke that way. - Trish R

Julius Lester has written some interesting pieces about the stories and Harris. He's also re-written some of the stories. I <3 Julius Lester! - Katy S

For those who don't know Julius Lester's work: http://members.authorsguild.net/juliusl... Derrick - did you know that he takes pictures?? - Katy S

I'm not familiar with his work, but will check it out. Thanks. :) - Derrick

He's on a children's literature list serve that I'm on. So are Jane Yolen and Philip Pullman and some other authors. I have to really stifle my fan-girl impulses when they post. - Katy S

Derrick, I'm not so worried about (black?) people blaming anyone for the material. I'm more worried that if this movie becomes available, a million American people will automatically buy it and show it to their young kids, who will absorb the "happy darkies" stuff without realizing what's wrong with it. I'm torn about making complete sets available. There was some kind of WB DVD set... more... - Kamilah Gill

I've seen it, and find it amusing that they built an attraction around it (splash mountain) but bury the movie - RAPatton from iPhone

I've never actually seen the whole thing. I would probably buy it if it were available. - ha3rvey (sup homepants)

Kamilah - I'd be just as worried about adults' reactions to it as kids (for the same reasons) - Katy S

It's funny to me that people are worried about reactions to this movie, when there are other movies out there where so-called "happy darkies" are integral parts of the storyline, but nobody would ever think to ban them. I'm specifically thinking of my (beloved) Gone With The Wind, a movie that's held up as an American classic (and rightly so). How is Song of the South more offensive than GWTW? It makes any protestations and any censorship/suppression moves by the parent companies seem disingenuous. - cecily

And what about Dumbo? Can't you still get Dumbo on DVD? What about the crows in Dumbo? - cecily

I agree, C. I do think Disney is one of those really overly cautious companies. Remember, the created the Touchstone Pictures umbrella to release movies that strayed outside of the cutesy Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Escape from Witch Mountain films, because we would get them so confused. And I love those crows. - Derrick

Cecily - I've never seen Gone With The Wind, but I suspect I'd have a similar reaction. Dumbo just makes me cringe! I wouldn't censor anything, but I still think about how people react to the films. - Katy S

Katy, I had to work hard to reconcile my feelings for GWTW. I love that movie, but it took me a long time to get there. What helped was trying to think of Prissy's inaction and "simplemindedness" as a form of slave resistance. If I'd never spent time reading slave narratives, I'd have never been able to come to that conclusion. </end_hijack> - cecily

I'll tell you what movie really made me choke on my diet coke recently. I was watching Heidi with my niece. Somehow, this story that's suppose to take place in Switzerland, looked like it took place in a home that was on a Southern Plantation, complete with a mammy-character. - Katy S

Dumbo and Lady and the Tramp are both questionable. I just think that Song of the South would get much more exposure, especially to children. It doesn't use animals for all of the racial stereotypes like the others. As for Gone with the Wind, I haven't seen it either, but I'd say it's more clearly aimed toward adults. Though I agree, with you, Katy. The adult exposure to Song of trhe South might be almost as problematic... - Kamilah Gill

My extensive training with literature and critical examination of it helps me get through the parts that make me cringe. That critical distance thing. Having said that, I'd never give a child a copy of Little House on the Prairie. Just not going to happen. - Katy S

I watch alot of old games shows and I gasp at some of the things they use to say.......... - VAL D. Zone

I've still got the (original?) 78-RPM set that belonged to my Mom. We used to listen to the stories and songs as kids. "...it's the truth, it's factual; everything is satisfactual!" - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ from iPhone

I used to have that 78 too, but is long gone now - RAPatton from iPhone

Zip a dee doo dah is a great, fun song, but I think that's about all I'll need from that movie, thanks. - Kamilah Gill

"Mister Bluebird's on my shoulder..." - Katy S

I loved Song of the South as a kid (Br'er Rabbit is a G). I always saw it as a kind of animated Huck Finn or Tom Sawyer. There was a time when I think not having the movie available was more political than anything. Now, I think it's just hard to market (and to what value? There's not a real way to make ancillary money from Consumer Products from the film). - Jason Toney

Dumbo is coming out on Blu-ray in Feb, FWIW. - Alix Whitmire

LOVE Dumbo. I need to pre-order. - Derrick

Animation fans have this discussion all the time. I think WB did a pretty good job handling it in its Golden Collection sets. In the first or second volume, they had an intro you couldn't skip that had Whoopi Goldeberg talking about how some of the cartoons were racist and that although no one was condoning that NOW, they were part of our past and better acknowledged than buried or... more... - Spidra Webster

How odd that you posted this, I just watched this movie last night. lol - aerobroken

It seems to me that any racist ideology in Song of the South would be counteracted for children (like it was with me as a child) by the cultural attitudes of today. It was made in a different time and even kids today look at early WB cartoons and get something completely different from them than kids fro a generation ago did. I hope that someday they release it and let parents decide what is the best course of action for their own children. - Kryptic

Katy, what is wrong with Little House on the Prairie? I don't recall anything bad in it but it's been a long time since I've read it. - Rochelle

Yeah, what is offensive about Little House? - Matthew DeVries

It's incredibly racist - even for its time. The Indians are described as grunting savages. Ma quotes that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian" line multiple times through the story. It's really foul. Unless you are prepared to discuss the racism throughout the book with the child, I'd avoid it. If you haven't read it since you were a child, read it now as an adult and try to put aside your fond memories so that you can view it with some critical distance. - Katy S

Also, LHotP is still a popular read-aloud book in many classrooms. I wish it wasn't, because it is often presented uncritically. Imagine hearing the things in that book if you are an American Indian child. - Katy S

I enjoyed imagining I was one of those savages who put up a charade of attacks to hide the true force that was forthcomming, twas not fun being picked on because of that book when I was younger, then I detailed to my peers the history of the Cherokee and Tsali. On the other hand, I actually like LHotP now and I enjoy SotS as well. - Tsali, The Native of FF

Katy the same thing would apply to half of the John Wayne, Davy Crokett movies/books. America has been really slow at learning about other cultures and presenting them in a decent light. I think most of the stuff that's been written/read/etc needs to be put into context sometimes. I think the best thing to do is just continue to show by words and actions that the past isn't the way to treat or portray people - Sir Shuping

Sir Shuping - I agree. These things should be discussed. The problem is, it rarely is with this particular book. It is taught and read uncritically. I didn't say I'd ban or censor the book, I just said that I wouldn't give it to a kid without discussing these things. Sadly, this isn't done very often. - Katy S

The thing about LHOP is that it's about settlers. It's about people who were "given" land that was taken away from the natives. It's built in to the story. That the characters (somewhat fictionalized versions of real people) called the indigenous people "savages" is only true to what was going on at that time. Teachers, parents, caretakers need to put that stuff in context. http://www.newyorker.com/arts... - Spidra Webster

The success of some children's lit is interesting in that it is often based on what adults remember fondly. Little Black Sambo has never been out of print, despite the racism throughout it. - Katy S

Oh I know you weren't saying ban or censor. But maybe my experiences are prejudiced, but even though I read LHOP, saw movies like Song of the South, Dumbo, etc. I never thought of it as showing me how to treat other people. I learned that from the people around me how others were supposed to be treated. Perhaps because we've lived through all of this turmoil and change in how races/cultures/religions/sexual preferences are treated things stand out a bit more (just my deep thought for the evening :) - Sir Shuping

Spidra - That's true, but again I would say that this should be discussed with readers. My problem with the use of the text is the uncritical way in which it is used and taught, specifically in classrooms. And, most parents don't discuss these books critically with their kids. They just remember how much they loved it and give it to their children for that reason. - Katy S

I think that's a valid criticism, Katy. - Spidra Webster

I think it's easy for white folks to read these books and say that they didn't affect them (but, did they play cowboys and indians?), but that's like saying that the people of a minority group shouldn't be offended by something rather than letting them decide what is or isn't offensive. My point is, that Little House is just as bad as these other texts and images that have been... more... - Katy S

fwiw, I first read the book as an adult (although I was familiar with the tv show). I expected some racism just because of the time it was written and the attitudes at that time. I didn't expect it to be quite as bad as it is. - Katy S

Oh - Louise Erdrich has been writing a really fantastic series of books to counter LHotP. The first book is titled The Birchbark House. Great book, and the writing is much better than Ingalls'. - Katy S

I'm finding myself obsessed with some stuff where I expect there to be some racial attitudes indicative of the time: Uncle Tom's Cabin, Gone With the Wind, The Confessions of Nat Turner, Sapphira and the Slave Girl, etc. I need to give these all a re-read to give me something to chew on. I always find myself in a curious state when seeing non-black people write about black people. - Derrick

So fascinating. For the record, I hate Gone With the Wind but love Dumbo and recall liking Song of the South, although that was (obviously) years and years ago. My mother read me the Laura Ingalls Wilder books without comment, though I've since gone back to them and seen that they have Problems. She did, however, upon giving me the Little Colonel books, say, "Now, there are things that... more... - laura x

I haven't re-visited Song of the South since I was a child. I do remember feeling very comforted by Uncle Remus. There was a gentleness to him that was, frankly, missing in a lot of my surroundings. I didn't know enough to know that his way of speaking and singing would be racist... i may be mis-remembering, but I seem to recall that it was 'fun'... playful language. Older, sadder and wiser, I'd now be prepared to revise my take on Song of the South. - T. Brent, technopeasant

I had a Song of the South album with story/songs from sometime in the 70s, as well as a few other Disney records. Probably acquired at a garage sale. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Walt Disney actually campaigned for the lead actor, James Baskett, to be considered for an Oscar. - Melanie Reed

totally with you on the crows in Dumbo. But, um, yes, i love them. for what it's worth, as a child i saw them as funny, weird crows and funny, weird crows only. It was only when i saw Dumbo again as an adult that I noticed that perhaps they weren't just crows. - edythe

Derrick, I'm glad. Especially in the case of GWTW. I often find people most opposed have not read the book. There is a very pivotal scene that defines freedom and the motivations of one of the lead characters that most people miss. - Melanie Reed

I did not remember that Hattie McDaniel who won Best Supporting Actress for GWTW was also in Song of the South - Melanie Reed

Right now I am grading student essays for Othello. They have to create play review forms for each play and aside from some regurgitation of the text and the events, they do have cover motivation and are encouraged to set up arguments based upon the attitudes of the time which are pertinent to the understanding of the play. My point is that this play is going to also be a touchstone. What do we do about portrayals in literature ? - Melanie Reed

Derrick, Also, my other question is about Joel Chandler Harris who collected the Brer Rabbit stories but did not originate the idea. He is considered a folklorist. Should those stories be preserved or should they be forgotten. Is there something to be lost if they are forgotten? What are your feelings about that? - Melanie Reed

The grandmother points out a "pickaninny" in "A Good Man is Hard to Find." While reading this to my ninth grader--mainly second-generation South Americans (this was in 2000, in Miami)--there was a collective gasp when I read that word. I took that as a good sign. I did not use it as a "teaching moment," however. I said, basically, "this story was written in the American South of 1955.... more... - edythe

Otoh, were we reading The Great Gatsby, I'd have a lot more to say about the depiction of Jews and blacks, as it doesn't have much to do with giving you insight about the book's characters. Similarly, If the part in AGMIHtF was written as, "They drove past a pickaninny," I'd feel differently and perhaps would not have read it to them at all. But then Flannery O'Connor would also be a different writer and... well, you get what I'm saying. Well, I hope you do, anyway. - edythe

Wow, I had never heard the term "pickaninny" before this thread. - Alex Scoble

Joey and I had this conversation while waiting in line for Splash Mountain. I would really like to see the movie since I can't remember ever seeing it before (other than the classic zippity-do-dah song). I do think it's kind of funny that people are somewhat against releasing the movie - there are far more offensive things on the interwebs (godhatesfags.com and kkk.com come to mind) - Kyle Johnson

I am, clearly, a white woman and, of course, have always been so. That may may make me ignorant with respect to many things, although I have always tried and continue to try to pay attention and to be as aware and as sensitive as I possibly can. I am good at putting myself in other people's shoes and I do try to do it as much as i can and to listen. What I'm trying to say, really quite awkwardly, is that if my attitude above seems shockingly dismissive of the Flannery O'Connor scene, please tell me so. - edythe

Oh, and, Cecily, I very much like your interpretation of Prissy's simplicity being a form of passive resistance! - edythe

Here's what SOTS says to me: that there is courage in horrible circumstances. That there is joy that survives the deepest pain. That humor is stronger than ignorance. And that if you destroy that you let them beat you. - Melanie Reed

And yes, Cecily, that is exactly what Margaret Mitchell was saying in Prissy. :) Besides, don't you just kinda clap and lol when she shuts the lid of the trunk and breaks all those dishes?! lol - Melanie Reed

I watched the Japanese laserdisc version and I found it to be mostly harmless. I understand why it's a sensitive thing because of how the black people are portrayed, as happy slaves, but you have to take it in the context of the time from which it was made. To censor it, kind of goes against the grain of America, in my opinion. We need to remember our past, not cover it up. - Alex Scoble

Edythe - that makes sense to me. There's a difference in age groups here. Your 9th graders can process what you said about the text more critically than the age group LHotP is written for (approx. 2nd graders). Plus, if you are examining other texts critically - like Gatsby - it's part of the pedagogy, so there is a connection. Actually, I think LHotP would be a great text to use with middle school and/or high school students to discuss these issues. - Katy S

A quote from Flannery O'Connor, paraphrased (i'd love to know your thoughts): "The artist needs to let the devil have play in the art, lest the devil have play in the artist." - T. Brent, technopeasant

There is nothing original about evil. It is a corruption of good which is in itself creative. Observing and accurately reporting that corruption does not necessarily arise from creativity. A confession from C. S. Lewis on writing the Screwtape letters: it was one of the most distasteful voices he had to adopt when writing it.. But he did it for a purpose. You can read about it in his afterword of the book - Melanie Reed

I don't have anything to add (besides that when I bought Peter Pan and we watched it my jaw dropped...I guess growing up in the PNW counterbalanced the depictions of Natives that were in that film, because I completely missed that as a child). I read the Brer Rabbit stories when I was a child and I completely missed the subtext. The 'tar baby'...wow. But at the time I had no idea that... more... - joey

And for someone who doesn't have anything to add, I sure do ramble. - joey

O'Connor's quote is definitely worth remembering, Brent. - Christopher Harley

O'Connor is one of my favourite Southern writers. Of her contemporaries, she's one of the few whose black characters were multifaceted, complex individuals who had active lives outside of and away from whites. Even though the races encountered each other frequently in her work, black folk weren't just window dressing in her stories. In light of her work, I think Brent's quote is illuminating. - cecily

O'Connor is good - ★ Soner Gönül

Cecily, yes,there are a number of southern writers I appreciate that come to mind in particular Eudora Welty who wrote about living in Mississippi and was inclusive of all the lives she observed. Of her's my favorite is "A Worn Path". The concern I have with Ms. O'Conner is while her aim was not ambiguity, her aim was to highlight Grace, it became an issue- most exceptionally in her "A... more... - Melanie Reed

Not true. It was released in the US as a videodisc back in the 1980's. I got a copy ported over to VHS. It's a shame it isn't available in any other format though. It portrays black people as people with dignity and love in my opinion. - Kevin Trotman

I watched this the other night, I can see both sides, but one of the key things I'll always remember is the boy yelling for Uncle Remus while he is in the coma and then Uncle Remus holding his hand and the boy coming to, the love a white boy and a black man can have for one another and the peace they shall build. But that's just me. - Tsali, The Native of FF

For me, that number is 3, and I knew them all before I was a user here. - Ben Hanten

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13? EDIT: This is based on active FF, not just people who have FF accounts. If everyone I've met with FF accounts, then it goes up to about 50. - Admiral Anika

Of FriendFeeders I didn't already know before I got into this mess: three: Josh and Trish Haley, and Eric from CS Techcast. After this week, though, it'll be dozens upon dozens. Thanks, Gnomedex! - Akiva Moskovitz

2 - ha3rvey (sup homepants)

1 - vijay

Technically, 1. - teh Dork Knight aka Kenny

3 - Two of them I nagged until they joined. One I met yesterday because I was really hungry. - Amber, Random Time Lord

18 - pea

Prolly 1, worked with bgolub before he became a FriendFeeder, there are a few I have met that have accounts here but they don't really use FF so I am not likely to count them. - matthew john ernisse

hmm, I'd say around 35, but probably met at least 20 of them prior to FF. - holly

Zero. - Simon Cartel

um, why would I want to do that? - Dave Hodson

1, and because of the friend i joined friend feed. LOL@Dave nice doubt - thequark

Dave, then don't answer. That's fine. I think it would be interesting to know. I'm surprised, so far, that so many people only know 0 - 4 people. That's very interesting; kind of like old IRC chats. - Ben Hanten

None, though that is set to change Saturday - Bren, Not Grinchy from iPhone

None. - Mycaptain

~20 or so through various meetups and at SXSW. - Mark Krynsky from iPhone

4. - Jim Hearts FF

0 - Thomas Bøhm

I dunno...15-ish? - Derrick

@Ben - it was a joke man! - Dave Hodson

1 - LogEx

zero - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ

0 - Mike Nencetti

5 or 6 not including family members. i think. - Morgan Haley

Of active FriendFeeders, 0. Of people with FF accounts, at least 1. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

active, 2. - Alex Scrivener

It's also interesting to me because I tend to like and comment on almost every item posted by someone I've met face to face. If others are the same, then knowing people IRL would enhance your FF experience. - Ben Hanten

EDIT: starting over and expanding this to include Twitter folks as well since there's a lot of overlap: 21. (2 Jasons, 2 Courtneys, Tina, Gunny, Aden, Haggis, Christian, Ha3rvey, MLx, Wendy, Cliff, Iris, Butternut Squash, Julie, Terry, Eddie, Jeanne, Mark, and Kate.) - Laura Lou Who

13! (http://friendfeed.com/haggis...) - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

9 - Shevonne

1 - Brian Sullivan

0 - Dennis O'Neil

0 - DGentry

2 - chrisofspades

At least 5 (and none are within a 1000 miles radius of me). - Micah Wittman

0 for me unfortunately - Wang Yip

0 so far. hopefully this will change some day. - Joe Silence is not dead

Zero - None - Nada - Hoping to some day - Having a great day! - L Stephen Cleary

2... that I know of. Scott of Two Countries and Jim Jannotti - Ladybug Heather

000.00 rounded to the nearest 0000 - R1CC1

Ah, if we include Twitter folks that brings my number up to 27. - pea

0 that I didn't know before coming here. :( - Spidra Webster

Other than people I knew elsewhere, none :( - Brett Kelly from iPhone

0 - Bonnie Foster

None - Rodfather

1. Or 2, if I count my partner with whom I live. ;-) - James (!?)

I met 10-15 at meetups in NYC and Boston. - Bruce Lewis

4 - sofarsoShawn

2 - Holly is Happy

18 (out of 1,967, ~1%) I met two FFers after joining FF. The rest are from college, previous work, Silicon Valley events, and dance. FriendVenn is a great way to scan huge lists. http://ff.deasil.com/friendv... - Mitchell Tsai

Nada - Brent - Loving Life

zilch - Mel Buckpitt

Pea, Ken, Jason, Gunny, Laura, and Eugene. So 6. 7 if you count my husband. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

couple hundred probably at various conferences, meetings, churches and friends.. - MB Linder

0 - Tyson Key

11. - edythe

6 - RAPatton from iPod

None. I've only met 2 people I follow on Twitter, and follow them because of that. - Dennis Jernberg

none i'm aware of. - Rob Schieber

0 - AJ Batac

1, but in all fairness, I knew him before FriendFeed. - Matthew Horton

A lot of italian FFers, thanks to barcamps and other stuffs not hanged to events. - Roberto from fftogo

Can I count people I knew before friendfeed? If not, then the answer is zero. - cecily from iPhone

6 but they are IRL friends/family. :-) 0 for FFers. - Kol Tregaskes

Just realized that I might have met dozens of FFers face-to-face and not known it because I don't know them! - James (!?)

Most the FF-ers I met are not as fanatic in FF use as I am. And besides that: I met them before they started using FF. But if they still count, roundabout 10. ;-) - Ton Zijp

2, but same as Kol, 1 friend, 1 family - Glenn Slaven

Zero. Probably best that way :-) - Andy C

2 - aerobroken

If I don't count family, uh...0 - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

1. I knew him before friendfeed. So, I think it does not count. - Faraz Mullick

3 - Kazutaka Ogaki from f2p

3 - David Cook

I've met about 10 now, I think. - Jason Huebel

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does anyone know what kind of bird this is? a pigeon? @dendroica / john, maybe? :) - edythe from Bookmarklet

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It's a pigeon. Maybe an albino, though pigeons are bred to be all sorts of colors. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

I think its a dove...looks smallish to be a pigeon. http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images... but John appears to be the expert so you better go with him :D - Shannon

[lowers binoculars] albino neckless wallhugger. very rare. [raises binoculars to eyes] - Karim

Columba livia is sometimes called a dove and sometimes a pigeon. Because it's been domesticated and bred for various purposes (racing, breeding competitions, weddings, food), it can appear in different sizes and colors, but they're all the same species. There are wild doves like the mourning dove (http://www.flickr.com/photos...), but they're different. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Looks like a dove to me; the feathers are all soft looking and it's got the same hunch that mourning doves have. - Michael W. May

coo. coo. coo. *poops on nice car below* - Morgan Haley

thanks, guys. :) - edythe

[lowers binoculars] although it could be a *chameleon* neckless wallhugger. you can see how it is trying to match the mottling of its plumage to the stucco wall. [raises binoculars] - Karim

Karim. You stupid. And I mean that with the highest of compliments... in other news, I believe "dove" is a euphemism for "pigeon" - tiffany from Android

it is clearly pining for the fjords; thus, it must be a parrot. QED. - jacek

Tiffany, all pigeons are doves, but not vice versa. Dove is a whole family of birds. - Ladybug Heather

i love you, karim!! :) - edythe

Noah saw this bird a few weeks ago like this outside his apt. He was wondering if it was sick and/or someone's pet who escaped. Might it have been a pet? I thought it would have been more likely to react to him if it was someone's pet. - edythe

Since white pigeons are fairly rare in the wild, it's possible it was released at a wedding or some other event and didn't rejoin the rest of the flock. It doesn't look sick to me, but your friend could probably tell from its behavior (e.g., limping, unable to fly, visible swelling or puss around the eyes, etc). - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

it just didn't move or react to him. he felt bad later and thought maybe he should've done something. i was hoping to make him feel better. sounds like it was ok, though. - edythe

If things change for the worse he could always contact a wildlife rehabilitator, though I'm not sure if they take pigeons. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

It let me get incredibly close to it without pecking my eyes out or anything, which made me wonder if it was hurt or sick. It didn't look sick but then again I have no degree in birdology so I couldn't be sure. The next day it was gone and I'm hoping it just got bored hanging out and decided to fly home, etc. - Noah Belson

was it looking for a bust of Pallas? "And the pigeon, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting / on the rusted grate of metal just above my chamber door; " etc. - Karim

:D karim. - edythe

Looks like a white dove to me.. - aerobroken

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Jumpman Junior on the C64. Mastered it. - l0ckergn0me

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Street Fighter II... I cried every time Bison beat me. - Johnny Worthington

Combat --> Pac-Man --> Tetris -->StreetFighter - Admiral Anika

Archon: The Light and the Dark, Stellar 7 - Christopher A Carr

asteroids - MikeAmundsen

Donkey Kong - Derrick

Lode Runner for the Apple IIe (w/ level editor) http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Ubqtous

super mario brothers 2 and 3 - Bill Kinney

C64-> Boulder Dash/ DOS-> Blockout (kind of 3-D Tetris) - Citronella

Riddle of the Sphinx - Eban Crawford

LoZ - Victor Ganata

Any Infocom game. - Akiva Moskovitz

Archon, Dark Castle, Fool's Errand, Wizardry, Continuum, Enchanted, and so many more. - Kevin Fox

Asteroids; the arcade version! - Michael Fidler

Oh yeah. Wizardry (the first two) and all three Bard's Tale games. - Akiva Moskovitz

Oh crap. And more than that: Ultima. - Akiva Moskovitz

Bard's Tale and Ultima. Never even got close to finishing either, but damn...you could play for-freaking-ever. Ultima especially gave me a feeling of the world being so big. I wondered how it fit in a game. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Kirby and Donkey Kong Country series - Amber, Random Time Lord

The classics. Mario and Zelda. - David Cook

Joust - Mike Lewis

Parsec on TI994A - Steve C

Final Fantasy I on the NES. Just hearing the music from that game makes me almost cry! LOL - Carlton Hackett

The Legend of Zelda, bombing every inch of the map to find a secret passage was never more fun! - Mike Chelen

Ultima, Wizardry, Bard's Tale on the computer. Time Pilot, Dragon's Lair, 1942 in the arcade - Imabug

Jumpman was the best!! - Matt Griffin from iPhone

Megadrive's EA Hockey - Giraffes Up In The AIr

space invaders - (jeff)isageek

Galaga and Ms Pacman. - Yolanda

robotron I mastered. but also loved many others: defender, joust, Ms Pac Man, more... - Anthony Citrano from BuddyFeed

Donkey Kong - Hutch Carpenter

Phantasy Star 2 - Terence

SpaceWar! and Gorf (coin op versions) - Joe Silence is not dead

Breakout & Missile Command. - Mark Krynsky

Miner 2049'er, Galaxian, Galaga (good call ladies), Tempest (good call ladies), Missile Command, Defender, Dig Dug, Spy Hunter, Do Run Run, Gauntlet (4player), Gyrus, Robotron, Tron, i can go on and on. - Carlos Ayala

wow, how could i forget Defender and Joust?!? also Space Duel and Asteroids Deluxe! - Joe Silence is not dead

and Lunar Lander! - Joe Silence is not dead

Donkey Kong - Eric Logan

Tempest. - Aron Michalski from BuddyFeed

Tempest and some of Tron. - joe is... from iPod

Not in the local arcade, but Crystal Quest for macs was the best. I still remember the game making cool noises during the math seminar in college. - joe is... from iPod

I wanna find a Jumpman Jr emulator online or for Mac OS X. - l0ckergn0me

I was wokka for wacky wacky wacky...er, I mean wacky for wokka wokka wokka. Centipede was another. Missile Command on Atari. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Lode runner, virtual racer, montzuma's revenge - Andy Bakun from Android

Here's a list of most of the games I played from age 3 through 30: http://designfoo.com/gamedes... - Kevin Fox

Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - Danny Minick

All games - Outsanity

Everything. I still am. - Faraz Mullick

Anything involving cars on the Commodore Amiga (Sniff! I miss my Amiga!!!!!!) - Adrian Scicluna

Space Invaders, Cat and Mouse, Joust, Mappy, Donkey Kong Jr. took most of my quarters. - Josh Haley from iPhone

centipede - Bren, Not Grinchy

Pacman & lots of others. - Ton Zijp

Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy on the ZX Spectrum 48 - Marlin Forbes

Atari - pong 1975, I guess that reveals my age. lol - aerobroken

Super Mario Bros. 3 - Christian (Simply X)

Ultima VII (I think). I remember even breaking down a door in frustration when the folks tried to stop me from playing it. - Vincent van Wylick

Hmm, as soon as I finished one addiction, I moved straight on too the next; it would be hard to pick a single game out of the line-up. Ultima VIII (never got to play VII until much later) certainly chewed up a lot of my time at one point, though. - Tristan Seligmann

Bug Blaster on the Acorn Electron. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

super mario land 1 - Kris

Railroad Tycoon. Hordes of the Deep Realm. Joust. Hack. - thinkQuick

Alex Kidd, Sonic and Goldeneye - Joe Dawson

Super Mario 64, when I was about 6. - Larry Hudson

Rastan - Jim from twhirl

5 games on 4 systems encompass my childhood -- Snoopy vs the Red Baron on the Atari VCS, Kane on the Acorn Electron, Wulfan on the Spectrum, the game with no name and Prince of Persia on early PCs. - Slappy Line

Pitfall. Atari. - Patrick Moran

Contra was King for me. Spread gun was a killer. - nesman89 from fftogo

You won't see this one often : Player Manager - Genaro Bardy from iPhone

Wonder Boy: Dragon's trap - Game Gear - Paris Carbone

Donkey Kong Jr. on Coleco. - Mark Wilson

NES: Megaman 2, LoZ SNES: Zelda, Super Mario Kart against the sisters, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong Country are those that comes to mind. I was exchanging cartridges with my neighbor kids at the time for the NES and was renting weekly for 6-7 years there so.. lots of games. N64 of course Super Mario 64 and Blast Corps, strangely, was so addicting to me, was playing for hours. But my... more... - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

Load Runner: Apple IIe. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

I Remember playing Super Mario World and Megaman Xtreme - nfan12

Amiga 500 - North & South, Cannon Fodder, Super Cars 2 and loads of awesome games from coverdiscs. Gameboy - Mario Land 1, Revenge of the Gator Pinball. First PC - Doom. PSX - Tekken 2/3, GTA,. - Steve

Arcade: Crazy Climber - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Ys Book I&II for the Turbographx. Only RPG I ever solved. - James Hague

Donkey kong - Holly is Happy

StarCraft and Red Alert 2 were my addictions. I guess that shows how young I am. :P - Mathew™ one of a kind

Bombjack, Contra, Crystal Caves, Baldurdash, Gauntlet II, R-TYPE, Prince of Persia, Kings Quest, Super Hang-on to name a few - Mo Kargas

Ohh and also Earthworm Jim! - Mo Kargas

Boeing 747 Simulator on the Amstrad CPC-464 (Cassettes). (Sorry I forgot the game's name ;-(( ) - Thierry R. Andriamirado

if i had a tiny dog, a six pack, some guns, a baseball cap, a wristband, and a goatee.... this would totally be me - iTod Pouch

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I refuse to believe you would be using a 1st gen iPhone Todd. - Sparky

Clark - we have been posting photos from gwip for months in the Really Gay Room. It's awesome like that. - Sparky

It's Really Gay™! - Sparky

The dog does look a little bit gay. I guess it's cool for it to be happy..Everyone has a right to be happy... - aerobroken

"this photo will get a lot of buzzzz" - Noah David Simon from Bookmarklet

Mosquitoes, flies and cockroaches are 3 things in this world that I don't have any resistance to kill. All other living things I respect and let live. Great capture! - aerobroken

Warning: If you are comfortable in your religious beliefs and are a minor or closed minded then please do not read this posting that is from a recent letter I sent out to a well known American film maker... Continue Reading by link... - aerobroken

"Warning: If you are comfortable in your religious beliefs and are a minor or closed minded then please do not read this posting that is from a recent letter I sent out to a well known American film maker... Continue Reading by link..." - aerobroken

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"Now you can send bigger attachments in Gmail, as Google increased the maximum attachment size from 20 MB to 25 MB." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet

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would be cool to be able to abuse Google's uber storage capacity to send huge files which get converted to a link for the recipient to download, like dropsend, etc. but built in - Ben

still waiting for googles dropbox.... - Chris Hofmann

@Ben @Chris: I'm not sure why Google, despite it's massive server capacity, hasn't offered those services. Maybe because it consumes too much bandwidth with little opportunity for sufficient monetization in the way they want? - LANjackal

@Guilherme: That got upped to 2GB earlier this week http://mashable.com/2009... - LANjackal

Yessssssss! - Josh Haley

Sweet! - aerobroken

its about time:) this is why google is a leader - Rob Cairns

this is why i love gmail!!!!! - Michael

twitter - Luca Filigheddu

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FF - pea

Friendfeed, duh. - Daniel J. Pritchett

FF - Shandiz

I found out about Michael Jackson dying through VentureBeat while reading Google Reader feeds. - Louis Gray

twitter...only because I wasn't at my computer and had my twitter app open on my cell phone. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ

FriendFeed - Valeria Maltoni

friendfeed - Alex Scoble

From my sons, who may have heard of it on a WoW channel. - Fred Yankowski

Twitter - Roberto Bonini

email alert from a local news station on my phone. - Steve Lowe

FF - DAL

I was on a conference call yesterday with the team about to flip the switch and release the project that I've been working on for the last few months to an internal beta and someone blurts out "Michael Jackson is Dead!". I'm not sure how they found out... - Lindsay

Twitter - Graham Bunting

FF - imabonehead

FF - Panayotis Vryonis

Via twitter - Jacque from fftogo

Twitter. More specifically, this tweet -> http://twitter.com/kaitfol... - Hiro Asari

Call me old fashioned: I heard it on the radio! - Pablo Melchor

twitter, @breakingnews - George Tziralis

Twitter - Rich

twitter, friend posted it, not sure where he learned it from. I confirmed with Google News search, LA Times - xero

Mona's post, which I saw on fftogo as I was leaving work. - Penguin It's Cold Outside

radio! :) yes it still exists - Mario

Don't remember if it was Twitter or FF first, but it was probably a tweet either way. - Grey Drane

Good 'ol FriendFeed :) - Janice

The nice thing about breaking news on FF is that the number of posts required for everyone to get their OMGz out are decreased by an order of magnitude. On Twitter there's 5 tweets per person about MJ, on Friendfeed there's one post for every few people and then those pile up the comments. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

FriendFeed! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

twitter - andy brudtkuhl

Twitter - Brett Kelly

Taken to hospital news on Twitter when only TMZ was reporting then followed newswires until death - Karen Swim

Radio on the drive home (who read it off TMZ) - Stuart Miniman

I hate to be a spoilsport but I've read Michael Jackson's death in my TwitterGadget. lols - jan geronimo

Coworker saw it on TMZ. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Saw the first unverified rumors on Tumblr. Switched to twitter for more info and found a raging torrent of unsubstantiated tweets, most w/out links, announcing his death + a few linking to sources reporting the cardiac arrest and hospitalization. Glanced at FriendFeed and saw less rumor and more links to reports of what was so far known. Turned to Google News and found LA Times live blogging verified news. Kept hitting refresh until they updated with confirmation that Michael Jackson was dead. - Ben Greenberg

WHAT??? MJ's DEAD??? Just kidding, yeah Twitter. - Tac Anderson

Twitter - Kenton

twitter. - Evan Travers

NBC evening news - my next stop was FF - Scott of Two Countries

Twitter - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed

Friendfeed - Martha

my mother send me an sms this morning. - Patrik Johansson

Twitter but via FF - Mike Bracco

@Mike - I think that counts as FF then, unless the tweet you saw had 0 likes and 0 comments. Don't discount the value of community filters! - Daniel J. Pritchett

Friendfeed but then I spent a couple of hours trying to establish whether it was true or not. - WorldofHiglet

Friendfeed. Specifically, subscription to http://friendfeed.com/breakin... - Micah Wittman

A rare occurrence, my boss was on Twitter and noticed the tweets and mentioned it. So much for me being on top of real time media. I was working! :p - Josh Haley

FF - M F

FF - Jim Hearts FF

CNN, seriously. - J. Abdul-Qahhar

Please do respond on the SocialToo Survey as well if you can get the chance. - Louis Gray

FF - Ian May

Twitter - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕

My kid. A friend told her, maybe txt. - Jason Nunnelley

Breaking News Online on Friend Feed - RAPatton

my brother told me and I read it on friendfeed at just about the same moment - chrisofspades

Friendfeed - Alex Scrivener

My gf read it on the news and told me. - Will Higgins™

FF - Bogdan Costea

FF - W_B_K

Twitter - Mohamed J

Twitter - Ian D

Smoke signal - Steve

Twitter - Jeremy Brooks

Twitter - but waited for it to be confirmed elsewhere - Keith - @tsudo

FriendFeed - Seek Ground from email

Friendfeed told me he was rushed to the hospital. I then was out and about monitoring m.nytimes.com on my G1, where I got the final news. - Matthew DeVries

co worker said it. - Chieze Okoye

FF - Tech Introvert

FF - martha

Would have been ff, but traveling and in location with limited connectivity, so CNN. - Steve

I overheard someone who was on the phone and got told that Michael Jackson had died - Jorge Barba

friendfeed - zsafwan 

Survey as no option for Facebook. I learned it from someone's status update. - David Spencer

Friendfeed. :-) - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

checking in on friendfeed before going to bed last night - i'm on vacation and haven't seen a tv - also haven't been online too much either - Chris Heath

twitter - Mary DeSive

twitter - Bill Sanders

twitter...it wasn't even a search, just everyone i followed was talking about it - Anthony Farrior

Twitter. Then, FF. then switching between the two. - Araceli from Nambu

Friendfeed - Alejandro

friendfeed(tweets included) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

friendfeed - Ethan

Twitter. - cecily

Twitter piped through friendfeed. - mikepk

FriendFeed. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

twitter - Kiran Patchigolla

My wife got a text from an SMS service provided by People Magazine. When I asked who sent it to her, she was almost too embarrassed to tell me. - Chip Ramsey

Good one Chip :D - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Yahoo News when I was checking my email. - Dawn

Friendfeed - Brome

While in a meeting, I received a frantic call from co-worker who saw it on TMZ.com - felicious

I saw on igoogle that he had a heart attack, but it wasn't until later talking to my Mother I learned he had died. - Grant Bierman

Rumor on FF, confirmed by the DJ at a roller rink. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

twitter - Corbett Barr

FriendFeed - Dean "Karnatos" Michaud

Tina: That's fantastic. Were you by chance playing paddle tag or shooting the duck at the time? - Chip Ramsey

Nope: I was trying to not fall on my arse at a roller derby practice. The last time I skated MJ was in his heyday, so it was weirdly symmetrical. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

A quick hack to script http://wittman.org/project... and so far the stats here are: (Of 101): Friendfeed:39 | Twitter:27 | (?):35 - Micah Wittman

A tweet from Breaking News Online. - Derrick

Here are the ambiguous per the script: (?): I found out about Michael Jackson dying through VentureBeat while reading Google Reader feeds. - Louis Gray (?): From my sons, who may have heard of it on a WoW channel. - Fred Yankowski (?): CNN from my dad's Behold - Mohomed Abdullahi (?): email alert from a local news station on my phone. - Steve Lowe (?): I was on a conference call... more... - Micah Wittman

New York Times online - Aaman (Clone of FF)

Friendfeed. - Joey Gibson

Twitter - Kevin Pedraja

FriendFeed. - Christopher Harley

Mainstream Media Online - Carlo Nasuti

FF - Davis Freeberg

Offline. I KNOW!!! Crazy. - Kandeezie

FriendFeed. - Parth Awasthi

DrudgeReport. Heard about him being rushed to the hospital via MSNBC news alert popup. Was working and wasn't checking twitter/ff at the time. - Internet's Tad from fftogo

Wife txt me about the sad news - Brady

A spam comment on my blog - Richard Reeve

Twitter. But I saw the tweets running through my FriendFeed Home stream. - Chris Baskind

Is it bad that I don't remember? Let me get back to you...Facebook, perhaps? I think it was before I was gonna go do some missions and quests and try to get Pyros. My brother sent me an SMS before that, but I didn't see it until after I knew. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

FF - YoYo_P

Mother told me. - Burcu Dogan

twitter - Ekin Arabacioglu

Twitter - on June 25th - Twitter's trending topics told me that 3 celebrities died. They were 2 out of 3. I think Jeff Goldblum is still living.... - Mike Nencetti

FF! duh. - Frankie Warren

Hah... I saw it on Twitter... sure didn't hear it from CNN. :) - Sean

Radio, in the car. - Patricia

My wife told me after hearing about it in TV. - Glenn Trtanj

Twitter - Hutch Carpenter

twitter & friendfeed. - Oğuz Serdar

Wait... He's dead? - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

PBS - Lisa zahara Hopkins

Twitter - Tyson Key

pillar of fire on the horizon. - Joe Silence is not dead

Twitter - Charlotte M

FriendFeed...probably via Twitter - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

Twitter - Bora Zivkovic

FriendFeed, through @Mona - Mark Aitken

friendfeed - Alfredo

ff - Amber, Random Time Lord

Friends at CNN. - Mona Nomura

Friendfeed - Victor Ganata

Michael Jackson is Dead?!! First I've heard of this! ;-) - Jeff P. Henderson

I got the initial notice that he was rushed to the hospital via Cnnbrk that I have sent to my phone, so I guess Twitter (though official word came for me via CNN itself) - BCK

Facebook, from Mona - Mike Nayyar

twitter, but immediately went to latimes.com to check - kelly

facebook - Alessandro

Veronica on FF - Stephen Mack

FF, plus checking all possible possibles sources. - diego morelli

I felt a disturbance in the force - Geoff Schultz

My friend Missy predicted 10 hours earlier, I found out while making frenchtoast and watching the News, they said Coma, I said bs - Tsali, The Native of FF

I woke up from a nap to it being on the news. In my groggy state, I saw his picture, and was trying to make sense of it. Finally it clicked, and then it was sort of like, "Huh?! He was only 40 something. That doesn't make any sense. " (He was actually 50) . - Nimabeckie

My oldest son called me and let me know.. - aerobroken

Twitter. - Bonnie Foster

Twitter - Aaron

Twitter... - Mark Harai

TV News - in Australia regular broadcasting stopped on two channels as they covered the event in LA for most of the day - another station played MJ all night til dawn. Of course once I was online, I could see that even twitter was mourning. - Chris Loft

A friend IMed me. - Lu Liu

Facebook, then Twitter a few seconds later. - Chris Luckhardt

FF. - Alix Whitmire

XM radio, on the way to my new place. - David Cook from fftogo

Friend listening to car radio. He was pulling his car into the garage. Got out of the car and said MJ and Farrah just died. - David Damore

Fox news - Russ Jackson

Was delivering coffee to an espresso stand, the barista told me that she heard about 30 min before, she had 4 friends txt it to her. - Christian Burns

Alix texted it to me. - Shawn Whitmire

Local news report on TV - Mol, Santa Claws

Sky News. Since I was away from the PC at the time. - Nicholas James

Ya'll. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Seesmic Desktop --> Facebook --> from Mona :) I later left to run an errand and listened to "Beat It" playing on the car radio during a tribute. I felt it was very fitting I found out the news from a combination of social media but actually sort of accepted it as true by hearing it on the radio - as opposed to something like YouTube. It just goes to show how long he's been around and how much has changed since The Jackson 5 days. The word revolutionary comes to mind. - TheMacMommy

(Of 169): friendfeed:56 | twitter:45 | (?):69 - Micah Wittman

Twitter, just cuz that was the tab I had visible. Wait...when did I find out he was in the hospital, or when did I find out he was actually dead? Two diff questions. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Associated Press's iPhone app pushed breaking news to my phone. So "other". - Rob Haas

FriendFeed (there were 57 votes for FriendFeed when I voted) - Miss Elle

Text. (I was outside and away from a computer. Subsequently informed everyone at the call center with which I do business, since I'm pretty sure they don't have Internet access there.) - Sue Radd

Google News - Nikhil Dandekar

Duh..Twitter - Saad Kamal

on friendfeed... - K.D.

Email from a friend in the US so I saw it morning my time in Europe - Krishna De

Friendfeed, but had to go to LA Times and CNN to believe it. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Do you mean "how did you find out that he'd died?" or "how did you find out that some people were saying he'd died?". The answer to the first is "on the BBC". The second is "FriendFeed" - although what I saw on FF was a feed through of Twitter. - Ian Betteridge

Heard that MJ fell ill on Japanese TV. Saw that he died on FriendFeed. Checked CNN et al, and eventually they confirmed it. - Rick Cogley

Email from a friend - Diego Barros 

Twitter, when MJ's death was a rumour or unconfirmed - Thierry R. Andriamirado

CELEB text alert from 4info - Tim Connors

office chatter - Thom Kennon

The people behind me at the Red Sox game were talking about it. - Leslie Carbone

Twitter retweet of TMZ article - Manuel Mas

What is this TMZ that you speak of. ;-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

Via Facebook. I was surprised I learned about it there... - Samuel Driessen

The News. I walked into my Boss's office and he had it on TV. I'd been in meetings all day at that point and hadn't had access to any of my connected devices. - Jason Toney

When my wife told me. Same way I found out he had gone to hospital. I continued to not care. - Eoghann Irving

Facebook. Tim Cuprisin posted the TMZ scoop: http://bit.ly/MppYm - Mark Czerniec

friendfeed.... - Ahmet Alp Balkan

Plurk. Funny thing was that on FF I saw a slew of MJ posts paying tribute, but didn't understand why everyone on FF was so MJ crazy. A friend on Plurk directly commented that he and Farrah had died. - Criz

I found out Michael Jackson had been hospitalized on Twitter. then rumors started that me may be / might not be dead, so I tried searching the web for confirmation and found nothing. Soon, there were links on Twitter to the CBS UStream broadcast which confirmed his death for me. - jbrotherlove

I told about it in this post: http://friendfeed.com/kmeelah... - Kamilah Gill

Twitter. - Curt Mercadante

Local news of his cardia arrest. Twitter of his death. And all within minutes of it hitting the air. - Graham English

f2f - j1m

my son verbally told me about mj's death after he found out on twitter - mike "glemak" dunn

Twitter - Svartling

gmail status message of a coworker - ta√i

facebook - howard shippin

FF first. Confirmed through multiple traditional sources. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

facebook...i saw "RIP Jacko" - constance taft

can i change my vote?... - Thom Kennon

Jason Calacanis on Twitter. - timedalkat

I'm currently in the hospital and i suddenly woke up in the middle of the night at 3:30 AM and couldn't fall a sleep again, so i turned on my cell phone and in the magic of that quite hospital night i found out from Facebook's statuses of my friends that he's dead. It was a very sad and strange feeling. - Tibor Holoda

Got a txt msg just after 2p (MJ Cardiac Arrest 911) - Turned to my friend and said what the msg said and "He is goinna die" due to Ed McMahon dying earlier this week and that whole 'dying in 3s" thing. I didn't know about Farrah Fawcett until around 5pm. I was away from my computer al day and don't have a 'smartphone.' - RAD Moose

Saw it in a Swedish tabloid (?) in a Coöp Nara (grocery) in Stockholm. It was in Swedish, but Michael Jackson 1958-2009 was clear enough. - Ruchira S. Datta

twitter - Jeffrey Marsh

From a sports radio show - Yiorgos Adamopoulos

overheard at Whole Foods. Mistrusted, unable to hear on radio (at 6:30 EST); confirmed at 7:10 via the New York Times who had just reported it. - Stephanie_Thankful

MJ died? - Keith - @tsudo

haha - haven't you heard! - Mark Harai from email

Twitter/FriendFeed. Way before the media. - Amit Morson

Facebook - Bob Blunk

friendfeed - John Black

twitter - Chad

Facebook - Scott Gould

Facebook - Sai

A tweet from Mona on FriendFeed. - Kol Tregaskes

my friendfeed friends told me - Mike Chelen

Michael who? - Nick B.

From a friend....trur word-of-mouth. I was in the Sierras at the Northern California Dance Collective with no internet or TV access. - Mitchell Tsai

friendfeed - Bren, Not Grinchy

The best way to watch video from the net. I'll never understand how anyone watches such things on their computers. - Admiral Anika

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Probably because it takes some amount of effort to get the right cords to connect the computer to the TV. I've been meaning to for months, but haven't gotten around to it till now. I can see why people wouldn't take the trouble. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Is it different with a Mac? We've been using our TVs (CRT & HDTV) to watch online videos for a long time. We use only one cable for the HDTV, but I need two for the CRT. Scott, I have a 42" monitor in my living room. Until last fall, it always had a computer hooked to it. Now, I just plug in my laptop or nerdtop and watch movies from my sofa, while using the screen of the computer to be online. - Admiral Anika

@Anika, I watch most of my tv on my computers. I find it incredibly difficult to just sit and stare at the tv and this way I can do two things at once without having to keep lifting and dropping my line of vision between objects (such as a television and a laptop) - Soup

Which cord did you get to hook that up Jandy? - Amani

Anika, you've just got to have a cable to connect from the mini-display port to the HDMI. Apparently there's one you can get that carries the audio as well, but when I was at the store, they only had mini-display to DVI, so then I needed a DVI-to-HDMI plus an audio cable (mini-plug to RCA). I don't think I ever tried it with my old PC - would've been monitor-out, though, so still... more... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Grab PlayOn and you can do it through your 360, or I think Secondrun.tv will work with the 360 as a media center extender - Richard Lawler

I had PlayOn briefly with my PC, and it annoyed the crap out of me. My wireless network didn't like it, I don't think - it'd lose the connection with PC after a couple of minutes every time, and usually knock the 360 off the network entirely. I use Vuze now to serve videos on my HD to my 360, and that's pretty nifty, but it doesn't work for internet video. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I'd prolly try a different router/firmware sounds a lot like upnp problems - Richard Lawler

Well, I kind of don't need to now that I've got the direct Mac-to-TV connection working, now do I? Plus, this way I can FriendFeed in 42 inches. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

...but what about when you want to move the Macbook? - Richard Lawler

If I'm watching TV, why do I need to move the Macbook? When I'm ready to move the Macbook, I'm probably not going to be watching TV anymore. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

*shrug* I'm not trying to convince you, but I usually only use my laptop while I'm watching TV, lol - Richard Lawler

Oh, I see. With the different cables, it sounds like how I have to set up to use the CRT to watch. With the HDTV, we only need the one cable for the back of the computer. - Admiral Anika

Gotta love HDMI out. No miniDP,DVI,USB nonsense to worry about. - Adi

My 36" LCD I got almost 3 years ago now has all the possible inputs; those are the primary reason I went with that model. I had been using the DVI for the computer primary screen and the HDMI coming from the DISH, switching to the secondary monitor (23") as a primary when watching TV. But I don't do TV anymore. *hugs 3 yr old PC* - Michael W. May

17" laptop, a pair of good headphones, the great outdoors (backyard), a pack of smokes, a tropical cocktail (or three), the night, some good shit to watch = total immersion (aka... heaven) - Adrian

^weirdo^ I still don't get how you...ah, just read the first comment. - Admiral Anika

Just sayin I can enjoy movies on a computer screen as well as on the TV, but *I* need a change of scenery. I couldn't just pop a movie on at my "workstation" as I would get restless - Adrian

Isn't the movie supposed to provide the change of scenery? *chuckle* Or are you watching movies bad enough they never engage you? ;) - Michael W. May

No, I get what he means. It's nice to have different physical spaces for work and play, especially if you work at home. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I'm a regular hulu viewer. I love it! I have mine hooked up to the big screen lcd and surround sound and with the rfid remote and friends think I am connected to satellite till I till them not... - aerobroken

Watching Hulu-hosted shows, or just the static website? - Matthew DeVries

I love Hulu! We have an older Mac Mini dedicated for Hulu (and other online content). It works wonders for us. We even might dump our satellite next year. - Trevor Carpenter

Yes, what Jandy said above exactly. A different chair, a different background, being able to smoke, etc. makes a big difference, kinda like "going" to the movies of sorts. :) - Adrian

hmm, i wonder if i can do this with a PS3? *doesn't know* - Joe Silence is not dead

Isn't a ps3 designed to play movies on the tv...? - Michael W. May

Matthew, the shows. :) I'm watching In Plain Sight in the screencap. Full-screen. Trevor, yeah, I've kept cable TV because I wanted the DVR, but between Netflix on the 360 and hulu there's starting to be little point. Except I need to keep cable internet, and the price for that would skyrocket if it's not bundled with TV. Dead Silence, I have no idea with the PS3 - I'm an Xbox-only person, so I'm not sure what the PS3 has in terms of internet streaming capability. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

@Jandy: my wife sort of accidentally won the PS3 in an office party raffle she didn't even know she'd been entered in until she was announced as a winner. neither of us plays console games and we already have two DVD players, so we've been trying to sort out a use for it. i already bought the BluRay remote for it so i don't have to fool with the game controller. - Joe Silence is not dead

Oh, heh! Blu-ray player then is a good use. Or, time to become console gamers? - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I want to go to there. *looks at MBP's ports* - Derrick

Yeah, we only have internet through the cable company. So, we're paying that high price. We've got DirecTv now. We'll see. I think we're going to try it in Sept, when the networks come back. - Trevor Carpenter

I like that wallpaper. - Admiral Anika

yeah i like dark wallpapers - Nathan Chase

Yeah - I keep it uncluttered. If I need to get to something I open Windows Explorer, or use Launchy - Nathan Chase

i like that! - Cee Bee

where do i find the desktop image??? :) that's a must have. - Frankie Warren

@Frankie - I don't recall where I found it... :( - Nathan Chase

That looks like one from Vladstudio, I think. - ha3rvey (sup homepants)

ah ha3rvey, you're right! http://vladstudio.com/wallpap... - Nathan Chase

Vladstudio has great stuff... - Nathan Chase

I love Vladstudio. my current work wallpaper is from there. I thought this had that vibe :) - holly

what are some other resources for desktop images? i know about www.interfacelift.com, that has some cool stuff. - Frankie Warren

Reminds me of Hansel and Gretel :) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Nice desktop, but holy crap you have everything but the kitchen sink running. How many services are you actually running or do you care? - aerobroken

Hahaha... 9 of those tray icons all belong to Digsby - it looks like more than it actually is - Nathan Chase

I like it! - Shevonne

Expand your quick launch and send another screenshot. I bet it meets your system tray in the middle, or all of your tasks collapse into one button. That would be awesome. - Jeremy Thompson

Haha... no there's only like 2-3 more apps on the quick launch - Nathan Chase

I had the same wallpaper. Vladstudio ftw - Ethan

ART> - cysko from Bookmarklet

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who cares? she's hot that's all : D - vijay

Art - aerobroken

porn. - parsonii

porn art - Alex

Part. - Brome

hahahhahhaha porn art nah its just like a model in a lacrosse get up! i mean thats what i see after... - cysko

haha - cysko

sexy - y266_2000

Hmmm... I need to see more examples to decide... LOTS MORE EXAMPLES! - Mark "DerBingle" J

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