aerobroken - Likes - FriendFeed

That poor cat looks so confused. - Kendra <3 Three Lions

but it's so warm on top of the scanner! - DJF

Time for a cat scan! - Jemm

Iz I the right way up for printing? - Vicky

This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws. - Soup

LOL, Soup! - Kol Tregaskes

that is one adorable kitten! - Anna Lynn M.

<3 - Furkan Tunalı

Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out... - Greg Lato

Kitty!!!! - Janice

keep trying! - Morgan Haley

FEED ME A CAT - tehKenny, Dork

Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying. - Steven Perez

Push harder - Josh Haley

LOL@Jemm - AJ Batac

آخی - یک بابک

Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

1 closer....hilarious! - Jeffrey Marsh

There we go 150 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez.... - Stephanie Segel

I think you mean a LIVE cat… - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

thanks, i needed a laugh - chaz2b

FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED - Karl Knechtel

iz dat some copycat? - bora "head" basman

LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer! - Threepwood

Just one more like... please. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's over two huuunddreeeed - bora "head" basman

MOAR! - Pat Hawks

I need 9 copies please ! - Faraz Mullick

A cute cat :) - Mohammad Abdurraafay

Haha, Faráz. - Kol Tregaskes

Next target, 250 likes. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

اخي...گناهي - noonii

Friendfeed loev faxcat :o - Karl Knechtel

;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Pussy by fax. What will they think of next? - Mattb4rd

X)) - Nia

OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic. - Alistair (alpinefolk)

You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!! - Kol Tregaskes

Kol, this thread is pure genius. - Alex Scoble

But only almost 50 comments.. :) - Simon Wicks

Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate! - Ivan Zuzak

Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

there we go then for the 1500+!! - Jaap Willem

1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers. - Simon Wicks

Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy! - Kol Tregaskes

Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again. - JSNFLMNG

¡Excelente! - Marcos Vicente

I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder - anna sauce

Hehe, Anna. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P - Richard A.

I'd like again if I could :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

bump - Simon Wicks

Richard, LOL! - Kol Tregaskes

Awesomely funny! - Martha

Next target: 400 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

theres one more for you Kol - Toby Graham

Toby, you're very kind. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Cute *_* - Sybelle

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

can you spare a cat 6 likes? - JSNFLMNG

sweet - Eric Hofmann

Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT. - Mike Nayyar

Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Awesome. - Alex Scoble

this is underfaksink at its worzt - Petr Buben

Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" .. - Petr Buben

Ah, OK, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :] - Petr Buben

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

433 Like ! Wow ! - Like

Freemor, yes very cute! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

cute~ - Chan Pen

that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax. - Phil Maxwell

oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink - Petr Buben

Just 5 more likes needed. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Try rolling the cat through a press first. Flat cats fit into the fax easier. - Bob Blunk

Fax, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Ok, over the top now. - Greg Guitarbuster

Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes). - Roberto Bonini

I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little - Steve C

Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

They fax much better if you flatten them first. What? - Kevin Pedraja

LOL, Kevin. - Kol Tregaskes

i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED! - sofarsoShawn

Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Countdown! 8 more now! - Mike Nayyar

bump for more likes - Josh Haley

bump - Roberto Bonini

One more!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I took mine away, too much pressure. - Steve C

Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that. - Kendra <3 Three Lions

меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот - Парадокс Смейла

пиздец как! - getalifejerk

Kendra, absolutely. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all! - Kol Tregaskes

My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik - getalifejerk

did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

wish I could double like! - metalerik

Wish I could just like it at all. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-) - Kol Tregaskes

But it's a cat being crushed... - Richard A.

برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟ - H.M.Nasrabadi

Hehe, Richard. - Kol Tregaskes

copy cat - gibilix

518 like! most liked post? - Lu Tao

ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :)) - Arzu

Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

*bump* - Andre

Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!! - Kol Tregaskes

So we know how many people use this site. - Richard A.

So that's what Paws Printing means. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

Richard, we getting there. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Jack, hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

this thread is making history. - vijay

Indeed .. this is a most epic thread - Mattb4rd

Hehe. 9 more for 550! - Kol Tregaskes

8... - sofarsoShawn

7. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this" - sofarsoShawn

Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get??? - Roberto Bonini

Gosh, no idea. - Kol Tregaskes

take some bets then come back in a year to check? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

:) - SokooteDel

Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes! - Mattb4rd

552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

560! - sofarsoShawn

And back down to 559. Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo? - Susan Beebe

I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat! - Rich

Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

564! - sofarsoShawn

I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken - JSNFLMNG

maybe a good way to clone cats :) - Roberto

Hehe, Roberto. - Kol Tregaskes

This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!? - Kol Tregaskes

It could! Keep bumping it up! - imabonehead

It will :) - Roberto Bonini

My next cat post: http://beta.friendfeed.com/the-fun... - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-) - j1m

No yet. Close though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Stuck on 581. - Kol Tregaskes

Most liked FF post ever? - Kristian Salonen

One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-) - John Collis

Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John. - Kol Tregaskes

ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی - Maryaminaa

11 more to 600. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟ - Exir

هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D - Shayan

Hehe, 6 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600 - Josh Haley

Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's 598+3, at the moment ;-) - Andre

There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!! - Kol Tregaskes

3 people un liked :( - Roberto Bonini

I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well. - Kol Tregaskes

too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;) - JSNFLMNG

Haha, Jason. - Kol Tregaskes

614!!!!! - sofarsoShawn

Whoa! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)] - Petr Buben

Petr, who's he? - Kol Tregaskes

omg, this post passed 600 likes! - imabonehead

@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there .. - Petr Buben

I see. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Day 11 and this thing's still going! - Phil Maxwell

Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-) - Willem (@wim66) ☠

whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible - Megan Craig

Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry! - Jérôme Flipo

Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography? - sofarsoShawn

Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-) - sofarsoShawn

this makes me laugh every darn time I see it - Stephanie_Happy2010!

Who is this NShawnFW? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

kitties do like to find new spots to nap :) - Maryam

LOL, now over 650 likes. - Kol Tregaskes

این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟ - Maryaminaa

Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol? - Roberto Bonini

Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it will - Seltoon

what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :) - Maryaminaa

Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

lol - Maryaminaa

I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture - Kevin J Hatton

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE. - Kris Roley

Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead - Mattb4rd

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

10 more likes for 700! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

7 more by my count! - Bec Rowe @d0tski

Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy? - aerobroken

It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or... - sofarsoShawn

OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not so bad huh? \u) - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

try harder! ; )) - Didier Lahely

Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-) - Rick Cogley

Caturday is tommorow ... Fax Cat on Saturday .. - johnpiercy

Must try this at home! - Anthony K. Valley ©

Bumping some old great posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Now THAT is a classic! - Allan Besselink

you have to flatten it first!!! ;) - Neda S.

This is very good humor! - TrafficBug

Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

just a couple thousand to go - JSNFLMNG

LOL - Smeerch

__awesome__ - Matteo Scotuzzi

and it got resurrected once again! - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy. - Seth Greenblatt

"The first trick is to use milk instead of water. The second is to use very little of it. The third is to handle the dough as little as possible." - Junebug (aka Sarah Jill) from Bookmarklet

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I've never made quiche. Is it difficult? - Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)

I just made quiche last week! Not difficult at all. You can make all different variations of it too. =D - Shevonne

hmmmmm, that looks very yummie - esther ♥ ♫

Thanks Shevonne! Maybe I'll try it this weekend. - Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)

The only difficult thing about quiche is the crust (unless, of course, you are a practiced pie crust maker, in which case I'm told it's easy). The rest is basically mixing stuff together and dumping it in the crust and putting it in the oven. - laura x

I cheat and use the frozen, deep dish pie shells. =D - Shevonne

that looks delicious!!! - Nia

I cheat and make a crustless quiche. :-) - Deborah Fitchett

Deborah, do you make that in the oven? i kinda want to do that and freeze them to take for breakfast on english muffins - Baroness Von BusinessTime

I haven't had a good quiche in ages. - Ian May

Oven, yes, in a casserole dish. It's from a cookbook for students away from home for the first time so very simplified; basically <thinks> eggs beaten with milk; add [onion, mushroom, spinach, tomato, whatever you like], grated cheese, and self-raising flour; mix, pour into dish, bake at your regular baking temperature. - Deborah Fitchett

That looks delicious! - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Best viewed from photostream. Excellent!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes from Bookmarklet

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That is AWESOME - Josh Haley

That's really cool. No way I'd have the planning ability to do that. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Nifty! - @CrystalinaB

that's awesome. - Alfredo

Oh wow.. they even compensated for the gaps between the pictures. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Fabulous! - Penny

Can I FAV that stream!?!? That is awesome! - Justin Korn

Nice! - Nicholas James

Clever. - Mike Nayyar

Check Daniel's share of this two: http://ff.im/2rPZM. Like that he's captured the photostream screenshot. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I did something similar some time ago: http://tr.im/k13U and http://tr.im/k142 but in sets not photostream. Anyway this guy work is nicer, mine was just an experiment. - Leandro Ardissone ⍨

Leandro, that is excellent! - Kol Tregaskes

Brilliant - Michael Fidler

THAT is really creative! - Scott of Two Countries

i agree with creative. - امیر؟

Sweet, What a great idea! - aerobroken

Bumping some old good posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I really like the changes they made to MC in Win7. It just keeps getting better - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

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I'm looking forward to trying it out. I'm hoping that it fixes a problem I was having with my XBox 360s not being able to connect to my Vista PC without rebooting the PC that's cropped up over the course of the past few months. Hoping that all works well. It looks like the upgrade's going to take a long time. It's been running for over an hour now and still is only on stage 2/5 and only 20% done with the "gathering files, settings and properties" stage. - Thomas Hawk

Oh you upgraded? I always wipe and do a fresh install. When I got my retail copy of W7 it took about 15 minutes to install the whole OS. I use MC with my XBOX360 all the time with no probs, hope it fixes yours! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

yeah, maybe I should have done a fresh install. didn't want to have to reinstall all my software though. We'll see how it goes. - Thomas Hawk

You'll definitely want a fresh install of Windows 7. - Kol Tregaskes

hmm... 88% of the way through 2/5 now. I tried to nuke my windows Media Player library (the likely culprit for the upgrade taking a long time) prior to the upgrade but Vista wouldn't let me delete the file saying it was "in use." Figured I'd upgrade, then nuke it and reimport my music. - Thomas Hawk

Takes a while the upgrade but I did the upgrade rather than clean install from Vista to 7 with no issues and also resolved old niggling Vista issues, so hopefully will do the same for you. - Russell G

Yeah I have upgraded five Vista machined and clean installed six XP machines. No difference between performance afterwards, so I would say no probs upgrading. - Travis Koger from iPhone

the main reason why I upgraded was to hopefully fix the problems I had with my XBox 360s not being able to connect to my PC without a reboot every time. The upgrade's made it to step 3/5 now. Seems stuck on "expanding windows files (21%)" though. But I'm sure it just needs more time. - Thomas Hawk

A couple of my machines got stuck at the same point actually Thomas, just let it go it will stop again later, but it will get through. My average time for upgrading is around two hours. - Travis Koger from iPhone

Getting further. On step 5/5 now it looks like. "Transferring files, settings, and programs." 41% done of step 5. - Thomas Hawk

72% of step 5/5 is now done. Damn, this upgrade may end up bleeding into a second day. - Thomas Hawk

Is a clean install quicker? - Greg Guitarbuster

OK! It's installed, rebooting now. - Thomas Hawk

Had to reboot in safe mode to nuke my old WMP library. I'm going to start over with a smaller library in hopes that things go better for me this time around. Reimporting my music now. - Thomas Hawk

Congrats on the Win 7. It's a pleasure. However, do not try to play the Beatles Remastered CDs on it, the DRM prevents these from being played on Windows 7. Go figure. - Yaniv Golan

wow. totally blown away that my Mac was able to connect to my network after the upgrade the first time with no trouble. - Thomas Hawk

Akiva and I were just talking about this a few days ago. Is it available to view anywhere now? - Rochelle from iPhone

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There are bootlegs, Rochelle. It was released on laserdisc and in other countries, but not here. The last theatrical release in the U.S. was in 1986. - Derrick

I can see why. But I did love those stories as a kid. - Trish R

I've never seen the film, and I'm keen on reading the original stories by Joel Chandler Harris. I'd like to think that we can get to the point where we can view material that is racially insensitive WITHOUT all of a sudden blaming people. The movie was made in 1946, it's nearly 2010. Am I going to look at my non-black friends and go on an attack? Unlikely, but perhaps I give people too much credit. - Derrick

I agree, Derrick, because the stories are written as being told by Uncle Remus, who spoke that way. - Trish R

Julius Lester has written some interesting pieces about the stories and Harris. He's also re-written some of the stories. I <3 Julius Lester! - Katy S

For those who don't know Julius Lester's work: http://members.authorsguild.net/juliusl... Derrick - did you know that he takes pictures?? - Katy S

I'm not familiar with his work, but will check it out. Thanks. :) - Derrick

He's on a children's literature list serve that I'm on. So are Jane Yolen and Philip Pullman and some other authors. I have to really stifle my fan-girl impulses when they post. - Katy S

Derrick, I'm not so worried about (black?) people blaming anyone for the material. I'm more worried that if this movie becomes available, a million American people will automatically buy it and show it to their young kids, who will absorb the "happy darkies" stuff without realizing what's wrong with it. I'm torn about making complete sets available. There was some kind of WB DVD set... more... - Kamilah Gill

I've seen it, and find it amusing that they built an attraction around it (splash mountain) but bury the movie - RAPatton from iPhone

I've never actually seen the whole thing. I would probably buy it if it were available. - ha3rvey (wants confit)

Kamilah - I'd be just as worried about adults' reactions to it as kids (for the same reasons) - Katy S

I agree, C. I do think Disney is one of those really overly cautious companies. Remember, the created the Touchstone Pictures umbrella to release movies that strayed outside of the cutesy Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Escape from Witch Mountain films, because we would get them so confused. And I love those crows. - Derrick

Cecily - I've never seen Gone With The Wind, but I suspect I'd have a similar reaction. Dumbo just makes me cringe! I wouldn't censor anything, but I still think about how people react to the films. - Katy S

I'll tell you what movie really made me choke on my diet coke recently. I was watching Heidi with my niece. Somehow, this story that's suppose to take place in Switzerland, looked like it took place in a home that was on a Southern Plantation, complete with a mammy-character. - Katy S

Dumbo and Lady and the Tramp are both questionable. I just think that Song of the South would get much more exposure, especially to children. It doesn't use animals for all of the racial stereotypes like the others. As for Gone with the Wind, I haven't seen it either, but I'd say it's more clearly aimed toward adults. Though I agree, with you, Katy. The adult exposure to Song of trhe South might be almost as problematic... - Kamilah Gill

My extensive training with literature and critical examination of it helps me get through the parts that make me cringe. That critical distance thing. Having said that, I'd never give a child a copy of Little House on the Prairie. Just not going to happen. - Katy S

I watch alot of old games shows and I gasp at some of the things they use to say.......... - VAL D. Zone

I've still got the (original?) 78-RPM set that belonged to my Mom. We used to listen to the stories and songs as kids. "...it's the truth, it's factual; everything is satisfactual!" - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ from iPhone

I used to have that 78 too, but is long gone now - RAPatton from iPhone

Zip a dee doo dah is a great, fun song, but I think that's about all I'll need from that movie, thanks. - Kamilah Gill

"Mister Bluebird's on my shoulder..." - Katy S

I loved Song of the South as a kid (Br'er Rabbit is a G). I always saw it as a kind of animated Huck Finn or Tom Sawyer. There was a time when I think not having the movie available was more political than anything. Now, I think it's just hard to market (and to what value? There's not a real way to make ancillary money from Consumer Products from the film). - Jason Toney

Dumbo is coming out on Blu-ray in Feb, FWIW. - Alix Whitmire

LOVE Dumbo. I need to pre-order. - Derrick

Animation fans have this discussion all the time. I think WB did a pretty good job handling it in its Golden Collection sets. In the first or second volume, they had an intro you couldn't skip that had Whoopi Goldeberg talking about how some of the cartoons were racist and that although no one was condoning that NOW, they were part of our past and better acknowledged than buried or... more... - Spidra Webster

How odd that you posted this, I just watched this movie last night. lol - aerobroken

It seems to me that any racist ideology in Song of the South would be counteracted for children (like it was with me as a child) by the cultural attitudes of today. It was made in a different time and even kids today look at early WB cartoons and get something completely different from them than kids fro a generation ago did. I hope that someday they release it and let parents decide what is the best course of action for their own children. - Kryptic

Katy, what is wrong with Little House on the Prairie? I don't recall anything bad in it but it's been a long time since I've read it. - Rochelle

Yeah, what is offensive about Little House? - Matthew DeVries

It's incredibly racist - even for its time. The Indians are described as grunting savages. Ma quotes that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian" line multiple times through the story. It's really foul. Unless you are prepared to discuss the racism throughout the book with the child, I'd avoid it. If you haven't read it since you were a child, read it now as an adult and try to put aside your fond memories so that you can view it with some critical distance. - Katy S

Also, LHotP is still a popular read-aloud book in many classrooms. I wish it wasn't, because it is often presented uncritically. Imagine hearing the things in that book if you are an American Indian child. - Katy S

I enjoyed imagining I was one of those savages who put up a charade of attacks to hide the true force that was forthcomming, twas not fun being picked on because of that book when I was younger, then I detailed to my peers the history of the Cherokee and Tsali. On the other hand, I actually like LHotP now and I enjoy SotS as well. - Tsali, The Native of FF

Katy the same thing would apply to half of the John Wayne, Davy Crokett movies/books. America has been really slow at learning about other cultures and presenting them in a decent light. I think most of the stuff that's been written/read/etc needs to be put into context sometimes. I think the best thing to do is just continue to show by words and actions that the past isn't the way to treat or portray people - Sir Shuping

Sir Shuping - I agree. These things should be discussed. The problem is, it rarely is with this particular book. It is taught and read uncritically. I didn't say I'd ban or censor the book, I just said that I wouldn't give it to a kid without discussing these things. Sadly, this isn't done very often. - Katy S

The thing about LHOP is that it's about settlers. It's about people who were "given" land that was taken away from the natives. It's built in to the story. That the characters (somewhat fictionalized versions of real people) called the indigenous people "savages" is only true to what was going on at that time. Teachers, parents, caretakers need to put that stuff in context. http://www.newyorker.com/arts... - Spidra Webster

The success of some children's lit is interesting in that it is often based on what adults remember fondly. Little Black Sambo has never been out of print, despite the racism throughout it. - Katy S

Oh I know you weren't saying ban or censor. But maybe my experiences are prejudiced, but even though I read LHOP, saw movies like Song of the South, Dumbo, etc. I never thought of it as showing me how to treat other people. I learned that from the people around me how others were supposed to be treated. Perhaps because we've lived through all of this turmoil and change in how races/cultures/religions/sexual preferences are treated things stand out a bit more (just my deep thought for the evening :) - Sir Shuping

Spidra - That's true, but again I would say that this should be discussed with readers. My problem with the use of the text is the uncritical way in which it is used and taught, specifically in classrooms. And, most parents don't discuss these books critically with their kids. They just remember how much they loved it and give it to their children for that reason. - Katy S

I think that's a valid criticism, Katy. - Spidra Webster

I think it's easy for white folks to read these books and say that they didn't affect them (but, did they play cowboys and indians?), but that's like saying that the people of a minority group shouldn't be offended by something rather than letting them decide what is or isn't offensive. My point is, that Little House is just as bad as these other texts and images that have been... more... - Katy S

fwiw, I first read the book as an adult (although I was familiar with the tv show). I expected some racism just because of the time it was written and the attitudes at that time. I didn't expect it to be quite as bad as it is. - Katy S

Oh - Louise Erdrich has been writing a really fantastic series of books to counter LHotP. The first book is titled The Birchbark House. Great book, and the writing is much better than Ingalls'. - Katy S

I'm finding myself obsessed with some stuff where I expect there to be some racial attitudes indicative of the time: Uncle Tom's Cabin, Gone With the Wind, The Confessions of Nat Turner, Sapphira and the Slave Girl, etc. I need to give these all a re-read to give me something to chew on. I always find myself in a curious state when seeing non-black people write about black people. - Derrick

So fascinating. For the record, I hate Gone With the Wind but love Dumbo and recall liking Song of the South, although that was (obviously) years and years ago. My mother read me the Laura Ingalls Wilder books without comment, though I've since gone back to them and seen that they have Problems. She did, however, upon giving me the Little Colonel books, say, "Now, there are things that... more... - laura x

I haven't re-visited Song of the South since I was a child. I do remember feeling very comforted by Uncle Remus. There was a gentleness to him that was, frankly, missing in a lot of my surroundings. I didn't know enough to know that his way of speaking and singing would be racist... i may be mis-remembering, but I seem to recall that it was 'fun'... playful language. Older, sadder and wiser, I'd now be prepared to revise my take on Song of the South. - T. Brent, technopeasant

I had a Song of the South album with story/songs from sometime in the 70s, as well as a few other Disney records. Probably acquired at a garage sale. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Walt Disney actually campaigned for the lead actor, James Baskett, to be considered for an Oscar. - Melanie Reed

totally with you on the crows in Dumbo. But, um, yes, i love them. for what it's worth, as a child i saw them as funny, weird crows and funny, weird crows only. It was only when i saw Dumbo again as an adult that I noticed that perhaps they weren't just crows. - edythe

Derrick, I'm glad. Especially in the case of GWTW. I often find people most opposed have not read the book. There is a very pivotal scene that defines freedom and the motivations of one of the lead characters that most people miss. - Melanie Reed

I did not remember that Hattie McDaniel who won Best Supporting Actress for GWTW was also in Song of the South - Melanie Reed

Right now I am grading student essays for Othello. They have to create play review forms for each play and aside from some regurgitation of the text and the events, they do have cover motivation and are encouraged to set up arguments based upon the attitudes of the time which are pertinent to the understanding of the play. My point is that this play is going to also be a touchstone. What do we do about portrayals in literature ? - Melanie Reed

Derrick, Also, my other question is about Joel Chandler Harris who collected the Brer Rabbit stories but did not originate the idea. He is considered a folklorist. Should those stories be preserved or should they be forgotten. Is there something to be lost if they are forgotten? What are your feelings about that? - Melanie Reed

The grandmother points out a "pickaninny" in "A Good Man is Hard to Find." While reading this to my ninth grader--mainly second-generation South Americans (this was in 2000, in Miami)--there was a collective gasp when I read that word. I took that as a good sign. I did not use it as a "teaching moment," however. I said, basically, "this story was written in the American South of 1955.... more... - edythe

Otoh, were we reading The Great Gatsby, I'd have a lot more to say about the depiction of Jews and blacks, as it doesn't have much to do with giving you insight about the book's characters. Similarly, If the part in AGMIHtF was written as, "They drove past a pickaninny," I'd feel differently and perhaps would not have read it to them at all. But then Flannery O'Connor would also be a different writer and... well, you get what I'm saying. Well, I hope you do, anyway. - edythe

Wow, I had never heard the term "pickaninny" before this thread. - Alex Scoble

Joey and I had this conversation while waiting in line for Splash Mountain. I would really like to see the movie since I can't remember ever seeing it before (other than the classic zippity-do-dah song). I do think it's kind of funny that people are somewhat against releasing the movie - there are far more offensive things on the interwebs (godhatesfags.com and kkk.com come to mind) - Kyle Johnson

I am, clearly, a white woman and, of course, have always been so. That may may make me ignorant with respect to many things, although I have always tried and continue to try to pay attention and to be as aware and as sensitive as I possibly can. I am good at putting myself in other people's shoes and I do try to do it as much as i can and to listen. What I'm trying to say, really quite awkwardly, is that if my attitude above seems shockingly dismissive of the Flannery O'Connor scene, please tell me so. - edythe

Oh, and, Cecily, I very much like your interpretation of Prissy's simplicity being a form of passive resistance! - edythe

Here's what SOTS says to me: that there is courage in horrible circumstances. That there is joy that survives the deepest pain. That humor is stronger than ignorance. And that if you destroy that you let them beat you. - Melanie Reed

And yes, Cecily, that is exactly what Margaret Mitchell was saying in Prissy. :) Besides, don't you just kinda clap and lol when she shuts the lid of the trunk and breaks all those dishes?! lol - Melanie Reed

I watched the Japanese laserdisc version and I found it to be mostly harmless. I understand why it's a sensitive thing because of how the black people are portrayed, as happy slaves, but you have to take it in the context of the time from which it was made. To censor it, kind of goes against the grain of America, in my opinion. We need to remember our past, not cover it up. - Alex Scoble

Edythe - that makes sense to me. There's a difference in age groups here. Your 9th graders can process what you said about the text more critically than the age group LHotP is written for (approx. 2nd graders). Plus, if you are examining other texts critically - like Gatsby - it's part of the pedagogy, so there is a connection. Actually, I think LHotP would be a great text to use with middle school and/or high school students to discuss these issues. - Katy S

A quote from Flannery O'Connor, paraphrased (i'd love to know your thoughts): "The artist needs to let the devil have play in the art, lest the devil have play in the artist." - T. Brent, technopeasant

There is nothing original about evil. It is a corruption of good which is in itself creative. Observing and accurately reporting that corruption does not necessarily arise from creativity. A confession from C. S. Lewis on writing the Screwtape letters: it was one of the most distasteful voices he had to adopt when writing it.. But he did it for a purpose. You can read about it in his afterword of the book - Melanie Reed

I don't have anything to add (besides that when I bought Peter Pan and we watched it my jaw dropped...I guess growing up in the PNW counterbalanced the depictions of Natives that were in that film, because I completely missed that as a child). I read the Brer Rabbit stories when I was a child and I completely missed the subtext. The 'tar baby'...wow. But at the time I had no idea that... more... - joey

And for someone who doesn't have anything to add, I sure do ramble. - joey

O'Connor's quote is definitely worth remembering, Brent. - Christopher Harley

O'Connor is good - ★ Soner Gönül

Cecily, yes,there are a number of southern writers I appreciate that come to mind in particular Eudora Welty who wrote about living in Mississippi and was inclusive of all the lives she observed. Of her's my favorite is "A Worn Path". The concern I have with Ms. O'Conner is while her aim was not ambiguity, her aim was to highlight Grace, it became an issue- most exceptionally in her "A... more... - Melanie Reed

Not true. It was released in the US as a videodisc back in the 1980's. I got a copy ported over to VHS. It's a shame it isn't available in any other format though. It portrays black people as people with dignity and love in my opinion. - Kevin Trotman

I watched this the other night, I can see both sides, but one of the key things I'll always remember is the boy yelling for Uncle Remus while he is in the coma and then Uncle Remus holding his hand and the boy coming to, the love a white boy and a black man can have for one another and the peace they shall build. But that's just me. - Tsali, The Native of FF

let me get a bite - Baroness Von BusinessTime

How is the catfish? Yesterday, I sat here thinking, "I can make it up there in half and hour, if I leave right now." But I slept. - Admiral Anika

that mac and cheese looks suspicious . . , - Baroness Von BusinessTime

Everything is hella delish. My first time here. Grabbing a piece of cake to go. - Derrick from iPhone

Whoa—where is that? - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

ohhhh - holly

I want everything except them Black Eyed Peas. Boom Boom Pow. - Danny Minick

you tease you - VAL D. Zone

gosh, im so bummed i missed that! - Melissa

Kaia, I was going to say the same thing! </mac'n'cheese snob> - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

It wasn't the best mac n cheese (needed to be baked), but it wasn't bad. The catfish was the business. Great cornbread too. And I have a piece of Gooey Butter Cake in the kitchen that I'll likely eat with a cup of coffee tomorrow morning. :) - Derrick

We missed you, Melle, but will definitely go back. - Derrick

Hiding this post because it makes me hungry every time I see it and also jealous. - Trish R

oh yum.....love catfish! - Bonnie Foster

Dang. That's some good eats. - Jason, Craving

can i get my catfish between two slices of white bread and with some hot sauce on the side. - Baroness Von BusinessTime

Where. Is. It. - Glen, Bespectacled Elder from iPod

I want the mac and cheese! - Rochelle

Arada cam varmış: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news... - Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu from Bookmarklet

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o ne ya birde guluyorlar zındıklar:P - Nilay Kızılok

*bump* </pun> - 'Like' robot (frɐnc)

okay, the only one with the correct reaction is the woman in the left rear of the shot, and even she is not nearly wigged out enough. WTF! - Jim in Real Time

Fraggle Red posted a photo: Indian Roller (Coracias benghalensis), Palm Beach Zoo, West Palm Beach, FL The Indian Roller (Coracias benghalensis), formerly also called the Blue Jay is a member of the roller family of birds that is found tropical southern Asia from Iraq to Thailand. It is not migratory, but undertakes some seasonal movements. They are found in open grassland and light forest areas. It is known for the aerobatic displays of the male during the breeding season. Males and females are however not readily distinguishable. Several states in India have chosen it as their symbol (from Wikipedia - The Free Encyclopedia). View On Black

I chuckle every time I see this. :) - Bluesun 2600

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cute. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

amazing lol - eric

bumpworthy daily just for the smile. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I'll like this one every time I see it! :) - Walt Ruppar

makes me LOL everytime..... - Stephanie Segel

I posterous'd it ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

LoLmaker - iwfx!

Honestly. What am I going to do with *two* knives? O_o - Derrick

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OMG YES - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Cut a bitch? Twice? - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

The same thing only...in smaller pieces? - tinypants - Hagitha of FF

The more to butter with, my dear. - Josh Haley

Argg! - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Why have we not partied together?! I'm distressed! - tinypants - Hagitha of FF

I know this might be stating the obvious, but I am duh-RUNK in this photo. The time is drawing nigh, Amanda. ;) - Derrick

Nigh is not getting here fast enough! *cries* - tinypants - Hagitha of FF

Omg Derrick I LOVE THIS HAHA!! - Mona Nomura

stabbity - Pete Delucchi

lookin' good! - Thomas Hawk

Danger at the Gay Gangsta Birthday Bash! - James (!?)

Don't you need two knives for the drumming? :-) - Ladybug Heather

Bump for good times. - Mark Krynsky

Making this tonight... - Adrian from Bookmarklet

But with swai, right. Should be interesting taste. - Admiral Anika

Put some mustard on that and throw it on a bun and YUMM-OH! - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

^ Ew. That's not right, Glen. LOL - Admiral Anika

I've got the Swai marinating. Now looking up miso dressing recipes for salad. Any tips? - Adrian

I'm thinking simple like this: http://www.grouprecipes.com/11757... - Adrian

Glen, that sounds ok to me minus the mustard. Add some lettuce, Japanese cucumber and mayo instead. - Adrian

Will look forward to hearing how this turns out for you. I like the recipe adaptation. I've tried the original and the proportions of the sauce seem off and it calls for marinating for 2-3 days. I could never get it right at home. I have a bunch of swai in the freezer and this would be a great way to use some. - Maria Niles

I made the sauce by tasting. I have too much sugar in mine, but should be ok. An hour and some change will have to do for marinade time. :) - Adrian

The fish was good. Dinner was waaaaaay too sweet. - Admiral Anika

Why y'all don't be inviting me over. - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE

'Cause my house is dirty. LOL - Admiral Anika

What was too sweet? The marinade? - Ayşe E.

That and the miso dressing he made for the salad. I'm not partial to sweet meat or sweet dressing, but the wine helped. - Admiral Anika

Yeah, that was too sweet. My bad. I followed the recipe but slipped on the sugar. Made for good finger rolls though. - Adrian

Yum - Mitchell Tsai

Buri? - Rick Cogley

On August 16, 1960, Joseph Kittinger made the final jump from the Excelsior III at 102,800 feet (31,300 m). Towing a small drogue chute for initial stabilization, he fell for four minutes and 36 seconds, reaching a maximum speed of 614 mph (988 km/h or 274 m/s) before opening his parachute at 18,000 feet (5,500 m). Pressurization for his right glove malfunctioned during the ascent, and his right hand swelled up to twice its normal size. He set historical numbers for highest balloon ascent, highest parachute jump, longest drogue-fall (four minutes), and fastest speed by a human being through the atmosphere. These are still current USAF records, but were not submitted for aerospace world records to the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI). These jumps were made in a "rocking-chair" position, descending on his back, rather than in the usual face-down position familiar to skydivers. This was because he was wearing a 60 lb (27 kg) "kit" on his behind, and his pressure suit... more... - Bluesun 2600

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O-O amazing just amazing - martha

thats insane! (his jump) amazing - echostreamer

ouch! (his hand) :P - 'Like' robot (frɐnc)

Wow! - Kol Tregaskes

This is amazing! - DS

Looks great! I used to love making challah as a kid. - Admiral Anika

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challah at your girl! - Andrizzle Gizzle

Well, that's pretty tasty! I must refrain from eating too much b/c I want to have plenty left over for french toast (I'm envisioning multiple days of french toast). - Katy S

OMG!!! I just had a chunk slathered with butter and honey. Super Noms!!!!! - Katy S

Thanks Abby! It was my first attempt at challah. I make my own bread, but for some reason I had never made this kind. I hadn't done a braid in a long time, too, so I went with the simpler 3-strand braid this time. Maybe next time I'll do 4-strands and then move on to 5-strands. This one isn't perfect, but I think I can up the level of difficulty and be ok. - Katy S

About how thick were your braid strands? - D0r0th34

hmmm...good question. They each weighed about 13.6 ounces and they were about 18 inches long (before being braided). I think the center of each must have been close to 2 inches and of course they tapered at the ends. And yes, I did weigh them so that they would be as close to the same size as possible. I use my kitchen scale a lot when I make bread. I weigh my flour and I weigh the dough if I need to separate it for multiple loaves or, in this case, strands for braids. I am a geek. - Katy S

Looks good to me... I think I should do some baking this afternoon! - Alistair (alpinefolk)

Nice! My loaves are going in the oven in about 15 minutes. - Rochelle

"Françoise Nielly’s massive, colorful portraits are delicious to look at. Even more wonderful – and particularly infuriating to those of us who have timidly dabbled in painting – is to watch her create them. In a beautiful video posted on her site, she, in her confident, strong hand, wields her painting knife shaped like a miniature garden trowel, and makes painting look easy like cake frosting. She paints her vivid, passionate canvases — some as large as 78 x 25 inches (195 x 62 centimeters) -- from black-and-white photos, further proof of her unfailing ability to interpret light, shadow, hue and tone by applying brilliant colors and daring strokes." - Anna Haro from Bookmarklet

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