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Gordon Vaughan
Re: Let the blogging begin! (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Sorry about your dad. His was an interesting observation. My dad died right before I graduated from high school (he was a lot older than my mother), so it really did seem kind of that way to me. Who knows, YMMV. What's toughest was when I'd think of some future event in my life and realize he wasn't going to be a part of it. What's surprising is how, as I get older, I find myself looking (and to some extent, acting) more & more like him." - Gordon Vaughan
Gordon Vaughan
Re: Yahoo embracing Twitter? (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"What I keep wondering is, why doesn't Yahoo buy a major blogging platform? I have been arguing for a couple of years that Xanga would be a pretty good fit for them. It's kept growing its functionality over the years, even though it certainly doesn't seem to be nearly as popular as it once was. While Xanga has fairly nice photo and video features, Yahoo could couple Xanga's blogging features with Flickr and move its messaging capabilities to AIM. Xanga also has had a Twitter-like feature, Pulse, for the last year or two. Integrating all this into a seamless user experience could be pretty powerful and one way to remain competitive against Google and Facebook." - Gordon Vaughan
Gordon Vaughan
Re: tr.im Resurrected - http://blog.tr.im/post...
"It's the simple things on the internet that turn out to be really powerful. Twitter is an example and so is Tr.im. You guys took URL shortening features forward enough to convince me that there's a LOT of innovation still to come. I've experimented some with Tr.im and would like to do more, so am glad to learn it will continue. You already have a nice feature set and it will be hard for anyone to come up with a better URL, which is important. Certainly there's considerable value there. BTW, I never use Twitter's URL shortening, in my experience it's quite erratic and undependable! I always go to Tr.im to shorten URLs for my tweets. It isn't much of a burden since the stats were right there on the page so it was an easy way to keep track of them. The whole Twitter/Bit.ly vs. Tr.im thing is just a mirage, IMHO." - Gordon Vaughan
Gordon Vaughan
Re: The Next Killer App is to Twitter as 1-2-3 was to Visicalc (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Yeah, there's some level of refinement of filtering needed so you can better control your tweet stream. It's powerful to be able to follow hundreds of people, but practically you only want to read most people's tweets occasionally when there's something of interest. Filtering by terms, etc. is clearly needed. Even more, if there was a way to gradually "dial back" tweet inputs from folks until you reach a comfortable level, and temporarily turn on/off if they were blasting a lot of tweets, for example from a conference that was/wasn't of interest, that would take Twitter or a clone (or even better, something that consolidated streams like Friendfeed) to a whole new level." - Gordon Vaughan
Robert Scoble
Robert and Rocky ride again at Rackspace - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
glad to hear that Rocky's joining you. - Thomas Hawk
Dynamic duo reunites again! - imabonehead
Yay, that is great news!!!! Woo hoooo!!! Congrats on being not only being gainfully employed with a cool company, but also for being re-united with your former producer, Rocky! That is really neat... win-win! - Susan Beebe
Congrats! Rackspace is a great fit for you guys. I hosted a panel with them on cloud computing a while back and it should be a great platform for you to do the good work. http://ross.typepad.com/blog... - Ross Mayfield
Live feeds for upcoming Gillmor Gang show: http://live.twit.tv/ - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Nice one, congrats to both of you. Those guys even have a SXSW iPhone app ... - Patrick Jordan
Congrats to both of you! - Kevin C. Tofel
Congrats Rob and Rocky ... great news . - johnpiercy
Congrats! - Bill Romanos
Best of luck Robert - Charlie Anzman
Can't wait to see what comes outta this. And I loved that video of Rackspace you did too. - Roberto Bonini
Awesome... congrats to both of you guys... you make a pretty good team. - LionelatDell
Congrats Robert - and you'll be a great evangelist for cloud computing. - Hutch Carpenter
Good luck & glad Texas is going to get more Rocky & Scoble, that's got to be a good thing :) - Gordon Vaughan
Tim Chemacki
Werner von Braun's response to "send computers up there; computers can do anything" from Congressmen: "You need to understand. The greatest computer in the world is the human mind. Plus it is produced by unskilled labor." (from Guenter Wendt, guest on The Space Show, 8 Mar 2009)
Yeah, great example of how von Braun's political skills. It's so rare to find the technical, managerial, leadership & political skills all in one person. Kelly Johnson had the first 3 but apparently was lacking in the fourth. Of course, this was long ago, and von Braun knew Congressmen didn't know squat about computers saying something like that! - Gordon Vaughan
Zee.
Flock abandons Firefox for Google Chrome (Updated) - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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Very interesting development. - Warren Butler
Wow, no kidding. - Jordan Hofker
Hmmmm... - Helen Sventitsky
Flock sucks. -waits for Anika to come tell me off- - Mona Nomura
First a disclaimer: I've not looked at any Chrome source, so I don't know how it's built / put together. I am, however, surprised that they claim Flock is easier to work with. Mozilla has a really interesting philosophy with how its browser is put together. It was designed as an application platform, with Firefox really just being one particular expression of that platform. Curious. - mikepk
Mona, I was a Flock user for the longest time. I REALLY wanted to like it. The crashes and lags I kept getting from the thing eventually became too much to bear. It just was trying to do too much with built in stuff, with what I can eventually could have just used FireFox with a lot of extensions. - Helen Sventitsky
Chrome would also benefit from Flock development and bug fixes that flow back upstream. This could be a powerful connection between two projects. - Warren Butler
+1 to Hmmm.... - Shivanand Velmurugan
All those panels and such are intrusive. Flexibility with options ftw. - Mona Nomura
LOL. No Chrome sucks. - Admiral Anika
Are you 100% sure? That seems like a very desperate move! But again, they might be in a very desperate position: 30M and nothing to really show for but 2 or 3 radical strategy changes. This is the big problem with start ups which get massive cash infusion before they find their market fit. What a waste! And blaming it on Firefox make it even worse. Booooo - Edwin Khodabakchian
hey Edwin, no i am absolutely not 100% sure...I mention in the post this is based on Mike Arrington's sources and not ours. In could prove to be completely false but we're taking the gamble that Arrington and his sources are right. - Zee.
Wow, I didn't see that one coming. BTW, I've actually been loving Safari 4 and I'm a die-hard FireFox user... The browser wars continue! - Dr. Apps from twhirl
I switched to Chrome when it came out last year.. - David Gross
How does social networking benefit from a dedicated browser? - Andrew C
I would LIKE very much...I gave up Flock a while ago as it became very much of a pig. - Craig Eddy
I tired Flock. It was seriously bulging with too much. I could not do a thing with it. Too much in one App. - CW™
Brilliant - andy brudtkuhl
For me, Flock has already been just like Firefox, but with a bunch of add-ons installed that I never use and can't uninstall. I keep trying to get it, but I just don't work the way it expects. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I'm bummed as there is no Chrome for the Mac yet. - craterdweller
interested to see how this pans out... I really like Flock, just changed to mac so can't use Chrome. It does have a lot of extra addons that I don't really use, but its nice to have most things in the one place. - Alistair (alpinefolk)
I have to echo the same sentiments. Flock tries to do too much. Still baffled as to why they are switching. - Russ Jackson
lol. Rofl. Start from Scratch, and with a completely different base set of technologies. Yeah. Riiiight :) - Yuvi
It seems like improvements in Safari 3 & 4 are giving it a boost vs. Firefox. I never liked FF on the Mac and used Opera for a while, but Safari has really come a long way. - Gordon Vaughan
Veronica
If you're an iPhone/touch user, what are three apps you can't live without? Mine are Mint, PhoneFlix and Evernote. #3apps
Mobile Fotos, Tweetie, and LastFm, and i been using the "Thats what she said" app - Fee501st
OmniFocus, bar none. - Andru Edwards
TwitterFon, Pandora, Evernote - BCK from twhirl
Omnifocus, BeeJive, Wikipanion+ - Sparky
My 3 are aSleep (or some similar sound generator), Darkroom Pro (or Night Camera), and I guess Evernote. Alternate #1 would be Shazam (I love this app, but I guess I don't use it all the time), and second alternate is Klick. Too hard to choose just three; there are many more alternates in the wing, not including jailbroken apps! - Cheryl Jones
Can you use Omnifocus standalone? I need a good task manager but $20 for the iPhone app and $80 for the desktop app is hard for me to swallow. - Paul Reynolds
Hmm Omnifocus looks cool, Is it worth the price? - Fee501st
Yes, you can use OmniFocus standalone on the iPhone or the Mac. There is a lot of beauty in using them together though. I know it is $100 - but it has EASILY paid that back. In fact, if it were $1,000, it would have paid for itself by now as well, as hard as that is to believe. - Andru Edwards
Thanks for the reply Andru! I really liked the natural language entry that iwantsandy.com had and I was looking forward to an iPhone app for it... then Twitter killed it. Remember the Milk isn't as good. - Paul Reynolds
Yeah, OmniFocus is the best I have found, and the Omni Group is a fantastic dev house that takes feedback constantly and works to continue adding in new features. It is a delight :) - Andru Edwards
Andru: Cool, thanks! - Fee501st
If I can make a separate list of jailbroken apps, I would choose: QuickGold, SBSettings, and Boxee remote. Boxee remote is my new favorite app; it works really well with Boxee on my Apple TV. I wish I could use it for the stock Apple TV functionality; I don't understand why Apple or anyone else hasn't released an ATV remote for the iPhone/iPod touch, actually. Winterboard would be my alternate, since I like changing my themes, and I like having weather information on my lockscreen. - Cheryl Jones
I have the touch and my #3apps are TwitterFon, Mint, & Bejeweled 2 (great for the long train rides while listening to audiobooks) - Bill Maslyn
Remember the Milk is actually another one of my favorites. OpenTable, Shazam, Chess with Friends, CraigSearch are other favorites of mine. - Veronica
Tweetie, Google App, Pandora/Last.fm(I count those as 1) - Mike Lewis
Things, iProrecorder, Evernote - and good old Google Reader :) - Patrick Jordan
Byline, Evernote, and Stanza - Roger Benningfield
1. google maps, 2. phone, 3. clock... then camera, settings, app store app, calendar, sms - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
1. Tweetie 2. NightCamera 3. WeatherEye - Chris Luckhardt
The ipod itself.... Imob, for a laugh and nothing else. Ask me again but this time use the N95 as a device ;-) - Richard A.
Twitterfon, RTM, SugarSync (Evernote). Sorry there are 4 :) - Michael Sheehan
Twinkle, Mail, Bloomberg - Bryan Bartow from twhirl
Amazon, Gas Cubby, Google (as well as Evernote and Mint) - Rob Haas
I still can't bring myself to use mint.com. I love the idea and think it's an excellent service but until OAuth is supported, i won't be using it. I refuse to give mint.com the passwords to my financial data. Good call on the other two. Love both! - ·[▪_▪]·
i.TV, SportsTap and Twitterrific #3apps - Sylvain Nadeau
Email (I know, boring!), Maps, Twitterific - Susan Beebe
SimCity - nick from twhirl
It's funny, I'm not that much of a moviegoer, but I love Movies by Flixster. It really shows off many of the iPhone's strengths (and none of its weaknesses). I also use ShopShop a lot. Besides that, I made a bookmark icon of http://twitter.com/breakin... and it's a convenient way to keep up with the latest headlines. - Gordon Vaughan
OmniFocus, Evernote, and Yahtzee - Glen Mistletoe
iBluesky (mindmaping), toodledo (to do list), and facebook - Christian Burns
Facebook, Twittelator and WeatherBug - Michael Lehman
Facebook, Shopper, What's On - Jen Kuiper
Brightkite, Stanza, Fring - Brome
Definitely Evernote, Twitterfon and Shazam ... and Safari of course :) - Johannes W.
Tweetie, Google App, Evernote - Sebastian
Brightkite, Twitterfon and Facebook. Feel free to stalk me on Brightkite :) - Baard @ Pixum
I didn't know so many people were using Evernote! Interesting. What do you mainly use it for? - Veronica
Tweetie, Facebook, Evernote, and Mint. I use Evernote for photo and voice notes - love the text search in pdf files and images!! - No FB
@Veronica, I use it for voice and photo notes on my iphone, but mostly i like the screen capture to share screengrabs and webclippings. - Fee501st
Qik , Evernote Twitterfon - johnpiercy
Kirk Kittell
No, I think this Jack van Impe guy really likes Jesus. Maybe? The line between fanatical and satirical is razor thin. I think?
Yeah, the news-style format makes the show seem kinda freaky. I'm a Christian but have never understood some folks' fascination with prophecy/predicting the future, etc. That gets pretty crazy. It's been suggested it's just escapism, avoiding dealing with reality. Sounds about right. - Gordon Vaughan
Robert Scoble
Lady in Apple store: "I am just going to stand here and see if someone wants to make a sale."
Is the Apple store really busy now? - Michael Krigsman
snort - I wonder if it worked? - Renee Hendricks
She wants to buy a Macbook and is being ignored. - Robert Scoble
I kind of did that in Best Buy the other day. Didn't work. - Mary Wehrle
It is fairly busy, yes. There are 34 customers in the store. - Robert Scoble
at least you've got an apple store! lol. - Nick Hesson
You kidding me? They just don't want to make a sale I guess! - Paul
Apple has "Sales People" Best Buy has "Clerks." Big difference. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Since they started charging for adult listings on Craigslist some people have had to be creative - paul mooney
Nick, where do you live that you don't have an Apple store? - Shevonne
I always get pinged within 10 seconds of walking into an Apple store. - Robyn Miller
I sent a sales guy over. I want a commission! - Robert Scoble
I'll sell her one! Slightly used... - Matson Breakey
If she doesn't say thank you.....I hate bad manners. - Shevonne
Yup - same here at the Fort Lauderdale Store - waaay bizzy! - Carl Smith
Rob: Apple has "geniuses." Vast difference. (yeah, right) - Michael Krigsman
I know the feeling, all the times I've ever been inside an apple store, only 2 times they've ever been helpful. - Joscelyne
I always get someone right away. I didn't know it was hard to get someone to help you. Maybe it's the area you live in? - Shevonne
Could be they can tell she's not worthy. - Dick Carlson
Mind you, if I earned as little as an Apple sales person I wouldn't be that enthused either. - Lee Stacey
Dick: heheh, no, it was just a case of sales people being too busy to look around for new money coming in the door. - Robert Scoble
Robert, does she "look" like she can't afford much? I got dissed in a tshirt and jeans on Newbury St Boston. Dumb mistake; I had just had my best year ;) - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Robert--Are you posting to FF on your phone or one of the Computers at the store? - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
in most Apple stores, the employees could be mooning customers and we would all still be standing there holding out our cash for them to take. - Mark Schulz
Rob: a combination of both. - Robert Scoble
That's how I feel in Best Buy. And usually they're too busy chatting with each other. That's why Circuit City got my money the last time I walked into a store to buy a computer system. If I walked into an Apple store and felt that way, I'd be walking right out and ordering online. -
Can you make a appointment to buy a computer at Circuit City (or Best Buy)? - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Ed: now, she looked pretty upscale to me. But that's pretty funny. I used to make a TON of sales by treating people in ratty clothes well. One guy I remember took me for a ride in his Ferrari and said that he judged whether salespeople were any good by if they treated him well (dude looked homeless). - Robert Scoble
They say the clothes make the man, but in this case, it was the Ferrari. - Shevonne
Robert, That's how my son made a ton of sales with cars. Treated everyone like they were upscale. Made almost as many sales in one month as their veteran top sales person. - Mary Wehrle
I don't know Rob. I'll admit that I tend to do this things on a whim. I also like to shop around to make sure I'm getting exactly what I want. Which is why I do so much more online these days. -
Very young guy (22?) I used to work with got dissed by Corvette dealer ("Get lost, kid" kind of attitude)... Just after we'd sold a business. Oops. Bought a 'vette at another dealer - paid cash. - Linda Eskin
@Linda Reminds me of Pretty Woman..."Big mistake" - Shevonne
Typical. Apples hates their customers. Known fact. Check the manual. - Randy Holloway from twhirl
Sound like she could have been me in an Apple store. Did she look over 50? We're invisible, I've found. Invisible, but solvent. - Linda Mills
Every time I've had to go inside an Apple store (I prefer to use the website) I see the same lack of interest. Its almost like they're surprised when I say I want to buy something. I think its because they get bombarded with 1000's of tire kickers every day. Still... no excuse. - Dennis O'Neil
Linda: yeah she looked over 50. - Robert Scoble
Sorry to hear that, Robert <sigh>. Now for a moment of silence to contemplate her first visit with a "genius" (if she managed to purchase anything at all). I guarantee, it won't be pretty. Ageism - the really final frontier! - Linda Mills
Apple stores can seem intimidating the first few visits. I'm 45 and still felt kind of out of place at first, even though I've used Macs since 1984! While salespeople always greet me, I've felt more like I "fit in" since having a nice conversation w/a guy at the Genius Bar. So advice: teach the salespeople to start discussions w/customers, at least older ones who are probably serious! - Gordon Vaughan
Robert Scoble
I'm in Palo Alto. Just had yogurt at shop that Steve Jobs eats at frequently. They said he was in a couple of days ago and is in great health.
Now I'm hanging out in the Apple store where Jobs shows up frequently. Will let you know if I learn anything. - Robert Scoble
Investigative journalism at it's best. :-) - Andrew Dobrow
Scoble tracking Steve Jobs' eating route. Oh dear. - Oyvind Solstad
Scoop McScoble. - Thomas Hawk
What flavor does Steve like? [edit] Seriously, I think it would be interesting. Sort of like asking what your favorite animal is, I think it might reveal something. - AJ Kohn
You know you are going to make AAPL stock rocket in the morning if you keep this up? - Dominic Jones
Yeah, I saw him last month eating spicy Indian food and swiping through his black iPhone. He looked perfectly fine. - Mason Lee
Are you stalking him or is this a 'walk a mile in his shoes' sort of thing? - Admiral Anika
Scoble- our man in Palo Alto. Thanks. - Roberto Bonini
AJ: they wouldn't tell me. :-) But they say that they deliver a whole bunch to Apple's executives every week. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Have missed your FF comments today! - Michael Krigsman
You do realize that if you keep this up and you're going to be nabbed as a SJ stalked. - amygeek
"In Search Of" LOL - Von Glitschka
The store is http://www.fraicheyogurt.com/ by the way. - Robert Scoble
it's the paparazzi on Steve Jobs! - Elijah Nicolas
Of course they gave me a sales pitch for how their yogurt is keeping him healthy. :-) - Robert Scoble
What is it with the reemergence of yogurt shops these days anyway? It's like it's 1983 all over again. Are they replacing coffee shops? - Ciaoenrico
@Scoble @AJ I bet it's Schnozberry (sorry for the obscure reference) - Andrew Dobrow
http://swanktastic.org/... I guess other people have met Jobs there. - Robert Scoble
I'm watching the after-hours trading in AAPL to see if this great breaking news has any impact. Still four minutes left.... Will update :-) - Dominic Jones
Ciaonenrico: I had a latte there too. The yogurt is the best in Northern California. - Robert Scoble
They need some help with their blog: http://www.fraicheyogurt.com/blog... - AJ Kohn
http://scobleizer.com/2008... is my report and photos of one of the co-owners. It always has a line of people waiting to get in. - Robert Scoble
Why is it that Apple isn't confirming or denying anything do you think, Robert? - Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple won't confirm or deny anything. Try asking them whether Steve Jobs is CEO. I bet they wouldn't confirm or deny that. - Robert Scoble
@Mona N. Because they believe it's no one's business if Steve sneezes. - Dominic Jones
The real CEO is clearly Dick Cheney - Andrew Dobrow
So, he's still alive? ;) BTW, what is THE interview you wish to make in 2009? - Konstantin
But clearly, he is not well... isn't it about time they say SOMETHING? :\ - Mona Nomura
Then what? Sell your stock? If Apple's value is so wrapped around one person isn't that a clear risk already? - Hayes Haugen
Konstantin: 1. Barack Obama. 2. Steve Jobs. 3. Steve Ballmer. 4. Mark Zuckerberg. 5. Bret Taylor. 6. Evan Williams. 7. Jonathan Ives. 8. Vic Gundotra. 9. Barack's CTO. 10. A bunch of geeks who I don't know but who are changing the world. - Robert Scoble
It has nothing to do with stock, it's handling smooth transitions IF there is something wrong so we (consumers) have confidence in them (Apple). - Mona Nomura
Mona: we're all dying. I know a lot of people who have died that were very healthy. Or seemed to be. Marc Orchant anyone? I don't know that Steve isn't well. Having cancer can cause you to live healthy and lose weight. But, I already assume the dude will die. So will I. Until he's ready to talk I have to assume he's fine. Obviously he's not bedridden if he's coming into yogurt stores. - Robert Scoble
Red Mango or Fraiche? I prefer Red Mango on University. - Randy Ksar from twhirl
Randy: I'm partial to Fraiche. Maybe we need a taste-off? :-) - Robert Scoble
We're all speculating and won't know for sure until Steve Jobs either steps down or retires. Either which way, this is really bad on Apple's part because they are (to me) encouraging rumors and speculation, irresponsible journalism, and publishing. The question is: Are we ok with that? - Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple is too secretive about everything. But that's who they are and they probably know that this publicity is good for them. It keeps us all wondering what the real story is. Guarantees everyone will attend Jobs' next press conference. - Robert Scoble
If people are getting worried when a CEO is getting thin, shouldn't we be more worried over weight CEOs? They are more all of a heart attack time-bomb than SJ is a health risk. Why don't we ask all those fat CEOs to disclose *their* health record? - Clarence Chiang
Clarence: yes. +1000. - Robert Scoble
I'm not worried about him. Is no one familiar with the old adage, "An Apple a day keeps the Doctor away." - Kevin Murray
Clarence: It's not just any CEO. It is Steve Jobs. Do you think his predecessor will generate this much news? Robert: I understand that, but that is so not ok, in my book. - Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple doesn't listen to me on PR issues either. Heheh. - Robert Scoble
hahhahahhahhahha - Mona Nomura
There's a Red Mango here, and I've had Fraiche. I prefer Fraiche. - Jesse Stay
I find myself wondering if SJ has an Alcor policy. - Michael R. Bernstein
Who is Steve Jobs? - Steve Rubel
Do they even make apple yogurt? It probably tastes better if you eat it with a mock turtle neck on. - Keith Beucler
Great reporting Robert. The real losers here are the gossip sites like Gizmodo who perpetuate rumors with "anonymous sources" who are "100 %" correct. - James
So I was there today with Robert when he got the scoop. Spiderman's frenemy James Defranco was spotted there. http://www.fraicheyogurt.com/ - Ross Mayfield
Why don't u interview him? I can see it now... "so who are you?" - mal
That place is buzzing - why hasn't anyone else reported seeing him there? - Jesse Stay
Hope he's well. In any case, despite all the coverage, what I haven't heard about is whether Apple's doing anything at CES? Do they usually exhibit? CES isn't something I've paid any attention to in the past but if Apple's becoming (as some are saying) the new Sony, wouldn't CES be important? - Gordon Vaughan
Apple never goes to CES. Apple has its own show from now on: it's called its network of stores and Engadget. :-) - Robert Scoble
Schnozberry! Who's ever heard of a schnozberry? - Kerri
Now that Jobs has made his January 5 announcement, we can all reflect. In my view, even if they didn't know anything, Apple & Jobs should have made some sort of statement in December, when the Macworld announcement was made. It wouldn't have been perfect, especially since they may not have known about the hormonal imbalance at the time, but better to say something than nothing. If nothing else, it would have kept Robert out of the yogurt shop. :) - Ontario Emperor
Gordon Vaughan
Re: US-POLITICS-OBAMA-HAWAII - http://discuss.flickrfan.org/2008...
"No wonder he's so popular :)" - Gordon Vaughan
Omar Shahine
It's officially official. My family is moving to Seattle this summer. I'll be joining the Social Networking team in Windows Live shortly!
Heard about cool stuff happening in that area. Best of luck on the move man. - Gus Perez
Good luck competing against FaceBook, MySpace, and LinkedIn. You're gonna need it at the borg :-) - Dave C
Wow. Congrats Omar! I've done that move. You'll like it, we miss our friends in Seattle. - Robert Scoble
Congratulations! - Evan Sims
Congrats Omar. - Loren Heiny
Congratulations! Been living here for almost a decade and it's a fantastic place to live. - Akiva Moskovitz
Congrats, I'm sure you'll like living in Seattle! - andrei_c
So, does Live Spaces still have some life left in it? I've had my personal blog there for 3.5 years, it seems to get reinvented every so often which means for about 6 months it's hard to use with a Mac. At first it was a really nice starter blog site! - Gordon Vaughan
I look forward to having you up here. We were in San Francisco (with Microsoft) before coming here and the weather isn't nearly as hard to take as you probably think it will be. After a few years you come to enjoy the cold and the rain. - Tommy Williams
congratulations - welcome to the beautfiul northwest - Andrew Clinick
Gordon Vaughan
Re: The space between Twitter and FriendFeed (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Tend to agree. FriendFeed is going in too many directions at once to be useful for me the way Twitter is. Maybe Robert Scoble is right that it's something to build custom news/etc. feeds on. This is useful, too, but the simplicity of Twitter is really appealing to me because I can use it while I'm doing something else & so keep it "tuned in" like the radio most of the day. So I hope that we'll see an enhanced Twitter that fills in this middle ground. The addition of graphics would certainly be welcome, I can't see why that would harm the simplicity of Twitter. It's the discussion features of FF that get it started going off in too many directions from me to keep up with it." - Gordon Vaughan
Paul Graham
The Other Half of "Artists Ship" - http://www.paulgraham.com/artists...
This works in the web 2.0 world, where a reliability failure (like twitter's frequent outages) has no real consequences. I would not want my bank to take this attitude to its accounting software, nor would I want the medical X-ray manufacturer to take this attitude --- "oh yeah, the worst that happens is we kill a couple of folks while we push a new release." For good reason, you don't see car owners lobbying for an elimination of crash test standards and other expensive checks. - Piaw Na
This rings true on so many levels. In particular, we easily spend half the price of our product just on selling it to the people who want it. - Gabe
Piaw, car manufacturers don't have to build multiple instances of a production ready vehicle and crash-test it for *every* change, nor do non-critical changes (paint colors, UI changes) ever have to be crash-tested. Frequently, software developers are forced to get approval for things that could be released immediately, or at least tested on the live system with A/B testing. This forces systems to be built for graceful recovery from failures, a more robust approach. - Michael R. Bernstein
Oh, and in any case, PG's post was about disproportionately expensive tests and tests with hidden costs, like approval processes. I'm pretty sure the developer group he was talking about have a comprehensive test-suite for their system, so it's not like they were talking about immediately releasing untested code, just *unapproved* code. - Michael R. Bernstein
off-topic quote ;-) 'If you want to build a ship, don‘t drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea.' -Antoine de Saint-Exupery - Adriano
Just about everyone working at a software company of any size would agree that this is a real phenomenon, and Graham does a good job of pointing out why it occurs, and what purpose it serves (i.e. it's important to weigh both benefits and costs of process). I believe the only way to avoid unnecessary process is for everyone in the company to push back, and to have a culture where asking for forgiveness rather than permission is acceptable. - Joel Webber
Mike, I'm not proposing that dot coms start having massive approval processes, just that it's not appropriate for software when people's lives (or financial balances) are involved. Intel's recall for a floating point problem cost way more than having effective testing would have. Of course, I'm an anachronism these days --- concern about reliability is so old fashioned. - Piaw Na
Small companies generally have small development teams and small numbers of users, both of which make it easy to ship quickly. - Gabe
I think costly checks grow when one group of people is affected by another group's errors. That tends to happen when groups insist on ownership of critical facilities (both infrastructural, like networking, and organizational, like PR) and set themselves up as gatekeepers. "Us and them" dynamics set in on both sides, and the problems make the gatekeepers be even more gatekeepery. - ⓞnor
Agree with @nor about multiple groups. If my group pays the cost but your group benefits from some change, I have an incentive to say No to your change. And you have an incentive to say Yes, because you're not paying the cost but you get all the benefit. This also happens if you take your kids Christmas shopping… - Amit Patel
Right, and if a single group bears both costs and rewards, they can make intelligent tradeoffs, and have an incentive to develop efficient safeguards. But developing the kind of partitioning, self-service infrastructure, and chargebacks necessary for that has its own costs (in many cases defeating the economies of scale that make big companies successful in the first place!). - ⓞnor
"If you're hard enough to sell to, the people who are best at making things don't want to bother. The only people who will sell to you are companies that specialize in selling to you." - j1m
Piaw, as far as I understand it x-ray machines were in "unstable beta" hurting people's health longer than most web sites... http://www.museumofquackery.com/devices... - Philipp Lenssen
one problem is that although thorough testing may cost less than a recall, the thorough testing has to happen every time & the recall may only happen one in 10 or more, so it may still not be cost efficient :-( what programmers hate (in my experience, anyway) is the idea that the work they're doing is not used or, even worse, causes more work for others. We like to think we make the world better ;-) *crosses fingers* - immaterial
The people responsible for developing new features don't necessarily have to be the ones productionizing and handling all the details of running the live service, although of course they need to be connected to their users to make a decent product. I think the open-source model might have some benefits here—random people might throw out innovative but half-baked pieces of code, then others might develop them into a finished product. - Jim Norris
When downside costs a lot (Google.com, VISA, etc.) you should have enough process. When lack of success costs a lot (most startups) you should do whatever works! The intersection (early-stage product at big company) is where a lot of problems happen. - Michael Herf
It seems like most folks are really bad at assessing the costs (and opportunity-costs) of intangibles. This may be one reason why most people are overly risk-averse. In any case, creativity and innovation increasingly suffer as these checks against adverse outcomes grow and their hidden costs multiply. - Gordon Vaughan
Steve Rubel
Study: Twitter users have a very small number of friends compared to the number of followers and followees they say - http://www.attentionmax.com/blog...
I think this proves the focus on numbers is the wrong focus. Quality over quantity wins again. For example - Twitter follow 20 people and interact, more influence then Twitter follow 80 people with little interaction. - Christine Dattilo
The research report by MATHEMATICIAN for HP, blah blah blah (Thanks though Steve, seriously.) - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Not too impressed. The point of Twitter is that it vastly enhances the value of weak connections and small seemingly random facts. Twitter always appears underwhelming when analyzed, because it's the non-linear interaction among all these that provides the value, i.e. the whole is far greater than the sum of the parts. - Gordon Vaughan
I've just cut and pasted Gordon's explanatory text. Now if my new iphone ever gets cut and paste..... - Dan Sleezer
+10 @gordon for this: "...The point of Twitter is that it vastly enhances the value of weak connections and small seemingly random facts." Exactly! - .LAG liked that
What sucks for me is just when I've decided to unfollow someone, they go and post something relevant to me for like 3 days in a row. - Admiral Anika
Robert Scoble
@ariherzog if you can't see why I use FriendFeed so much by watching this: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... there's no hope
I felt like Lucy in the bottle cap factory till I found that pause button! Fascinating, though, all the information flows coming onto one page. - Gordon Vaughan
Robert Scoble
I am talking with @glichfield who is moving to NY to be deputy editor of Economist. Head of innovation there. Follow him!
Following - Robert Miller
Following - Dave Martin
I respect you, man, but he's only tweeted twice ... if he doesn't get active I'll wind up dropping him like a hot potato - Bastard Operator From FF
I agree with Sean. He needs to be active or he is not worth following. - Robert Miller
Following - Gordon Vaughan
Not worth following - Bob Blunk
Hey, it's easy to follow folks with low tweet counts. I always wonder why others are reluctant to do that - it's not that hard to unfollow later if they start tweeting like crazy (though I wish we had a temporary unfollow). - Gordon Vaughan
im on board - Max Schulze
Followed, but only because he's moving to NY. :) Otherwise I would not normally follow someone without a proper picture. - Chinkerfly
Gordon Vaughan
@JessicaBahr RE Good time to buy a house? Likely good time to be looking, to get feel for market, incl.trends. Wouldn't pull trigger yet tho
Really can't imagine too many people being in a hurry to buy a house right now, which is a lot of the problem (besides increasing oversupply as foreclosures continue). We went through all this in the 80s here in Texas, it was really rough, but we learned a lot. Need to write about that sometime. - Gordon Vaughan
Robert Scoble
I love the Big Picture. The photos there are always incredible. - Robert Scoble
fantastic shots ! Thanks - eduardo
Looks like great fun. - Jay
How does Boston.com get such great photos for The Big Picture? They're always of such high quality. I thought that paraglider was stuck in the tree, just like a kite! - Gordon Vaughan
Robert Scoble
HOW TO: Get the Most Out of FriendFeed - http://mashable.com/2008...
Guess I need to read this - Shannon Clark
It's a good article for the basics. One thing I think they missed is that a good way to choose people to follow is to see who the power users follow. I started with a few well known names in the tech industry and looked to see who they followed. Later I realized it was even more important to see who the most active users followed. FFholic was somewhat helpful in that regard too. - Laura Norvig
Laura: I would not look at who I follow, but rather who I like and talk with. The place to see that is here: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... -- that's where you'll find the really great people on FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
Thx for the share - Marcel Janus
Good blog. Thanks for sharing. Loren - Loren Fogelman
Thanks, I needed that! Want to find out how to cut back info coming in so I can track the handful of conversations that are particularly interesting to me. - Gordon Vaughan
Gordon Vaughan
Re: Repent ye sinners! (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Ditto for Houston's Astrodome. Wasn't that great a baseball stadium but would hate to see it torn down." - Gordon Vaughan
Gordon Vaughan
"Yeah, we need more simple ways to make short blog posts. I still write long posts occasionally, but short stuff usually ends up just as comments on someone else's blog or on Twitter. ... not that there's anything wrong with Twitter!" - Gordon Vaughan
Jeff Smith
I need some kind of stand that will hold my iPhone in landscape so I can sit the phone in it and watch my Video Podcasts while I work.
I got to learn how to use FriendFeed. OK, here's the same comment I just left on Facebook! "Apple ought to make a miniature version of the arm they had on the 2nd gen iMac. That would be a cool way to hold an iPhone :)" - Gordon Vaughan
Jay Rosen
I'm glad Dave Winer got to hear the Berkeley J-School crowd explain to him that listening too well to the users is unethical.
Crowdsourcing does not always provide the answers that you expect. I wonder what would be on the front page of the NY Times if popularity was the determining factor for what stories got published. Celebrity gossip? If so, would they be obliged to hire Perez Hilton as their managing editor? People also tend to not like depressing news like people dying in wars, world hunger, pollution,... more... - scott anderson
Crowdsourcing? Who said anything about crowdsourcing? Who said newspapers should start editing the front page based on popularity? Where did the phrase "cater to the masses" come from? Where are you getting these things from? "If you want to keep their interest, you need to be interested in them." That was his main point. Does that say "edit the front page by market survey?" Jeez-a-roni. - Jay Rosen
Slippery slope. How do you get there from here? Quoting from Dave ... "it was largely considered unethical for a reporter or editor to know which sections of the paper were most read by users of the paper. If the reporter knew, the story goes, he or she might be influenced by peoples' interests in deciding what to write about." Dave indicated that this type of thinking was a bug. I disagree. - scott anderson
It's often commonly known information that some parts of the magazines are more often read than others (while that information is based on the small sample of tests). Anyways, in most newspapers most commonly read page is comics. ;) - Daniel Schildt
Where's the switch? The switch that causes people to hear Dave Winer saying, "listen to users" and yet what the brain receives is "abandon all judgment, all intelligence to whatever people tend to consume." Where is that switch? - Jay Rosen
BTW, here's the piece people are responding to. http://www.scripting.com/stories... - Dave Winer
Jay, it's the same switch that flipped when people told us at Salon a decade ago that we should never look at our traffic reports because it would corrupt our judgment as journalists and turn us into bottomfeeding scum. - Scott Rosenberg
Yes, the same switch; and I recall that battle pretty well. By the way, is "slippery slope" considered a thought? I mean do people still think of that as an argument: "once you start down, the only option is complete loss of balance until you hit the bottom?" To me that seems more like an escape from the necessity of having to think about something, but maybe shouting "slippery slope" at a problem still sounds like a thought to some folks. If so, it's kind of sad, no? - Jay Rosen
My most popular blog post is a throw-away picture of Bruce Lee beating up Chuck Norris. Knowing my stats, do I keep posting Lee/Norris stuff? No. But the next ten most-pop posts are about science, and I notice what style and format appeals to ppl, and I may slightly modify my writing style of posts about science - making them better because of this information. - Bora Zivkovic
I can process the readers' info and not go down the slippery slope. I am still in charge, but feedback - direct through comments and indirect from traffic stats - improves my writing. Newspapers can do the same. - Bora Zivkovic
Right. "Slippery slope" can mean "pack appropriate footwear, move with caution" but too often people use it to mean "that's scary, let's just sit tight." And there *are* sometimes piles of dazed bruised people at the bottom of the hill. - Scott Rosenberg
Maybe this is what it is. When people make that equation, "to listen is to cave," they are not making an observation about listening at all. They are making an observation about other people, what scott anderson called "the masses." The masses lack discipline, the masses want entertainment, the masses want Britney Spears-- not news. Most important: the masses are not me, the observer of other people and their decadent habits. And so to challenge the equation, listening=caving, is to take "the masses" away. - Jay Rosen
But "masses" are interested in stuff other than Britney Spears. Sometimes they don't know it because all the media serves them is Britney Spears: http://scienceblogs.com/clock... - Bora Zivkovic
You never know what you'll learn if you listen, that's what's really stupid about arguing about whether you should listen or not. Maybe the people who want to say something to you might just make the difference between driving off the cliff and finding a new future. Maybe it's keeping *you* from having the great idea that cracks the nut. - Dave Winer
BTW, when did listening become "listening in the aggregate." If you know anything about me, you know that I don't think of users as couch potatoes, passive participants. In the 80s when I ran a software company, we used to design regcards so as to solicit original thoughts, not just box-clicking. When a new batch of regcards came in I grabbed them and studied them for interesting comments. When I had a question, I called them and asked. It's also good for business if people get that you care what they think - Dave Winer
BTW, you might have to listen to 100 users to get 1 good idea. In 1986, I had a meeting with Guy Kawasaki when he worked at Apple. I showed him an early version of one of our products, we had thrown the kitchen sink into it, every half-baked R&D idea, cause our company was failing and this was our last chance. One idea intrigued him. He said everyone at Apple was hand-designing foils to print on Laserwriters (they were new then). He took a piece of paper and drew a box around one of our pages, and... - Dave Winer
asked if we could do that. Of course we could, and we did, and we immediately sold 1K copies of the product for Apple people, but more importantly, they were so excited by it, they in turn sold many more thousands to their customers, and our company went from being in the brink of shutting down to gushing cash. All because (drum roll) we listened to a user. Ask Guy if you don't believe me, he's on Twitter. - Dave Winer
Once again, this leaves me wondering how journalism manages to be arrogant without being awesome. (The profession, not so much the people that practice it -- one suspects they've elevated a rough draft of their core values to a religion, and now can't escape from it.) - j1m
The thinking behind the slippery slope comment was that newspapers are a business that exist to make a profit. The last season of "The Wire" provides a good example of what I was referring to. Once you start down that road, these temporary bailouts become more seductive. - scott anderson
Also, I never indicated that users should not be listened to. I was referring to the actual quote related to ethics from Dave's article that you obfuscated in your twitter post. - scott anderson
Lastly, for the record I am not a journalist. I don't even claim to be a good writer. I am a user of the news attempting to communicate my concerns related to this topic to those that in my opinion appear to have a self serving agenda. - scott anderson
Who is it that you're saying has a self-serving agenda? I like the "in my opinion" part. In my opinion your mother wears army boots! Heh. - Dave Winer
@Dave: You and Jay. I believe that blogging in all its forms has a valuable role to play in our society. However, I also believe that MSM publications that maintain strict journalistic ethics, including accountability, also provide great value and that the two should not be mixed or try to emulate each other. - scott anderson
Well there you have it. You should make such accusations carefully and with evidence and back it up. What exactly is my supposed undisclosed (and unknown to me, btw) conflict of interest? (Can't wait to hear this.) - Dave Winer
@scott "The last season of "The Wire" provides a good example" of a talented auteur unfortunately working out old grievances in public, spinning an entirely unbelievable tale of willful ignorance of total disregard for the truth. Simon also managed to transplant a 1995 newspaper into the current day, an organization that apparently has never heard of the internet, either for reporting the news or checking it out before starting up the presses. - tim windsor
And I'm with Scott Rosenberg. Slippery slopes call for greater caution, but not total avoidance. - tim windsor
I've seen this careful to not listen approach in interviews, too. It seems like a lot of journalists only ask questions they already know the answer to. Of course, they want the expert being interviewed to give the answer, but they might as well be putting words in his/her mouth. - Gordon Vaughan
The line between listening and trusting your own judgment and expertise is a challenging one, no matter how you cut it. But I agree that the "slippery slope" argument is nonsense. If a journalist lacks the judgment to avoid the slide, h probably doesn't deserve the title. - Pete Forsyth
Also, @davewiner -- I've been trying to participate in this discussion on your blog, but my comments have not been making it past moderation. Can you take a look? - Pete Forsyth
It's unfortunate that the intent of my original question has gotten lost in this discussion. I blame myself for being too flippant and not tying the point I was attempting to make more directly to the exact issue I had a problem with. I'll try to rephrase the question again in a more precise manner. Dave was informed by the Berkeley J-School crowd that they believed it was unethical to use the data about which sections of a newspaper are most popular in decisions papers make about where to invest resources. - scott anderson
I responded to Jay's post because he had generalized and distorted the opinion of the "J-School crowd". In hindsight I should have called him out on this and left it at that. All of my comments have been directed to how this specific type of data is collected and used and this issue alone. In regards to the more general question of whether newspapers are listening to their users or not,... more... - scott anderson
That said, for those that believe it is beneficial to use the data about which sections of newspapers are more popular than the others, how should this data be compiled and applied in an ethical manner? Do you survey all the potential users of a paper like the NY Times (aka the masses, the aggregate, etc.) or do you isolate a sample group based on some criteria? What is that criteria?... more... - scott anderson
The problem with the letters to the editor is that they are designed to protect the existing power relations. See this dust-up about the inappropriateness of letters to the editor in science publications: http://scienceblogs.com/clock... - Bora Zivkovic
There are much better ways to listen to the readership than letters to the editor. News outlets have many opportunities -- some more legitimate than others -- to shape the public discourse and influence public opinion. In reporting, in the structuring of the medium, in the archiving of information. Proactively seeking out feedback is important -- and is commonplace in other industries. Some approaches clearly have ethical implications, while others don't. - Pete Forsyth
@davewiner If your claim is simply "news outlets should listen to their users," it seems there isn't much for anyone to argue with. I think that's pretty uncontroversially true. However, it's seemed at several points that you are taking a stronger position than that. - Pete Forsyth
I don't equate listening to caving or that listening will result in bottom feeders but I do not discount the effects that come from the pressures related to being a profitable business, especially in tough economic times. A blog or a niche publication is a much different animal than a news corporation. Are there specific processes or firewalls that exist in the news industry that... more... - scott anderson
I think knee-jerk or reactive answers come out of a specific context, and to suggest that news organizations are dumb or naive misses a more nuanced point. The kind of influence that advertising directors etc. sometimes try to exert over editors can be extreme, and so editors' developing a tin ear to that sort of thing can, in many cases, be a very good thing. It's important hear feedback, but it's also important to not waste one's time hearing repetitive feedback that you can't ethically act upon. - Pete Forsyth
When Obama said he was not against all wars, just "dumb wars" people seemed able to handle it. Their heads did not explode from having to make a distinction. So...There's smart listening and dumb listening. I think everyone can handle that too-- including everyone looking in on this thread. - Jay Rosen
Jay, I think we all agree that the distinction is important. The point I'm trying to make is that resistance to input is not always, or necessarily, a bad thing. That is a starting point for finding a solution though, not an end-point. Trusting journalists to have good judgment implies respecting their right to say "in my judgment, this particular feedback is garbage." - Pete Forsyth
As an aside, I have been blocked from commenting on Dave Winer's blog, for reasons that aren't clear to me. That's why I haven't been involved in the discussion over there -- not a lack of interest. - Pete Forsyth
Tim Chemacki
Yeah, I love all the Bullwinkle cartoons :D - Gordon Vaughan
Gordon Vaughan
Trying FriendFeed again. Joined 6mo ago. Some folks really like it, yet how can I handle 40p/day of tweets yet feel overwhelmed by FF feed??
OK, playing with it a little more. The FF interface seems really noisy to me, with items continuing to move around as they're updated. Twitter, OTOH, is very chronological. Realized I'm going to have to aggressively use the Hide button in order to gain some clarity. - Gordon Vaughan
Gordon Vaughan
Re: Why I like netbooks (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Yeah, seems to be a pattern. Made me think also of X-Plane creator Austin Meyer's adamant email about how he couldn't produce a version of X-Plane for the iPhone, sent days before announcing just that. Wonder if he picked up that idea during couple of weeks he spent in Cupertino getting X-Plane for iPhone ready. I'd love to see some smaller-format and less-expensive Macs, it's amazing what you can buy on the PC side these days. Apple is once again losing ground on price." - Gordon Vaughan
Gordon Vaughan
Re: Brooks hits it out (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Yeah, he's right that we're really short on true leaders at the top right now. Sadly, there don't seem to be a of lot of good prospects in the pipeline, either. If the Republican Party was a baseball team, it would be long past time to fire the General Manager." - Gordon Vaughan
Louis Gray
Want a Twitter app with Summize integration, replies, Tweets, and groups in one desktop window? Check out http://www.tweetdeck.com/beta/
I would like a twitter app that would make twitter work :) - (jeff)isageek
I want a twitter that works :) - directeur from NoiseRiver
Tweetdeck is very nice. Breaking tweets out into @ replies and groups makes sense. Pretty, too. - Leo Laporte
Excellent! I'm just not that into all the dark gray. - kennbell
'scuse me while i wipe up this drool, but that looks hot! - Sarah Perez
This is very nice. Love the grouping feature. Makes it a lot easier to follow tweets. - Dave Rutter
ok, see that got all screwed up just now, had to delete & start over. - TheMacMommy from twhirl
so what I meant to say was, I like tweetdeck for trying to improve on apps like twirl or twitterific for that matter, but I'd still love to see some über combination of tweetdeck & twirl that lets you group, customize color in UI, post using ping.fm and receive more than just tweets like FF does - not so much a firehose but more like a spiffy detachable shower head w/the different dial settings. Come to Mamma! - TheMacMommy from twhirl
Checking it out now, thanks Louis! - Daniel Smith from twhirl
I like it Louis - thanks for the tip .. even though there are acouple of things I would probably like as options it is very workable in the short time I have been using it - Steven Hodson
I really like this so far, it'll be interesting to see what future plans holds. I'd like to see a tad more customization of the client itself. Nice so far though. - Nick
Nice that you can keep twittering even when Twitter is down. Categories/groups/tags is clearly a direction Twitter user needs are heading. Also need an app, though, that can handle multiple Twitter accounts. I tried Twhirl but after a while kept getting timeouts on the 2nd open account. Maybe that's Twitter's fault, not Twhirl's. - Gordon Vaughan
I still wonder why all of these apps default with a dark background. - Caleb Elston
Just saw it with my 9-y-o daughter. Animation was amazing and it was visually attractive. Story was cute, but not great. I think that Monsters Inc., the Incredibles and even Toy Story had better writing. Most interesting thing to me was that more than half the people in the theater were adults with no children. Definitely a bit of a geeky crowd, different than you might expect for a Disney/Pixar flick. All that said, Nice. Now all I need is a blackberry version (that also handles friendfeed) :) - Barry Graubart from twhirl
Using it .. nice. Try clicking on the photo. Looks like most of us need to go higher rez! - Charlie Anzman
pretty slick...just not picking up all my twitter friends though for some reason. - Zee.
Very nice and still very-very buggy (Air Linux) - Czar
Ok, another ugly black twitter client. I want an Air app with some brushed metal feel to it. Having something on my desktop that doesnt match the rest of the windows makes me feel like Im on windows. - Colby Olson
I would rather pay for Flickr than put my photos on Facebook to be fodder for advertisers. - Andrew Feinberg
Are there any other Twitter services/apps with the Grouping functionality? Really loving that. - Bryan Landers
looks excellent. love the "maximized view" for real twitter addicts. though I can't imagine there are many left that are addicted, since, well, you know. can't really be addicted to twitter when it's down all the time - Mark Bao
Thanks! I'll check it out over the next few days! - Soulhuntre from twhirl
This is lovely. Funny how some really nice apps sneak up on you. Thanks for linking! - mark.kemperman from feedalizr
nice but I doubt it fits the workflow now that twitter is a tiny bit of it - Dobromir Hadzhiev
thanks Louis, very cool app, what do you think of the group service? - John Cass from Alert Thingy
I like the group service, but I love the Summize integration more. I've watched my search for TweetDeck just blow up today, and the app hasn't crashed once or locked up - which is saying something despite the fact it's been open all day. - Louis Gray
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