Who will win? Who ever develops platforms or apps that can harvest everyone of these services' real time search features into one spot. Facebook and Twitter are slowly becoming communication and information hubs. Who ever can mine that takes home the big diamond. I hereby copyright the next big buzz term for the web "Real-Time Search Aggregation"
- Johnny Worthington
Jesse: I'm curious if you are tempted to use your unfollow tool, now you are following so many people?
- Jim Connolly
As much as people make a fuss about Twitter Search, FriendFeed has shown it to be a pretty average option. I get better search results when searching Twitter on FriendFeed than I do with Twitter's own search engine.
- Paul Jacobson
Jim, no - I use Twitter different than most people though. I use it as a search platform, so those I actually follow are simply relationships I'm trying to build, not information I'm trying to follow. I get that through other means.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: Yep, that makes sense to me. BTW: I hear your tool's pretty good - Kudos!!
- Jim Connolly
Thanks Jim! We try to do what we do well - it's one of many we offer, on multiple platforms.
- Jesse Stay
Louis: hahaha love the link back to Johnny. Ok Louis knows what he owns. For instance, I own super human filters http://www.google.com/search... Of which Louis is one and Jim is another. Johnny could be well on his way to being one of my super human filters... only time will tell. Perhpaps if he owned real time search aggregation....
- Mark Essel
Mark, I wouldn't say "Louis knows what he owns". That's not true. I found out the oddity because Johnny mentioned the string and I searched on Google. Pure chance. Great chance. But luck all the same.
- Louis Gray
Thomas, I don't think anybody has won, because no prize has been given yet. When visible real-time-search revenue starts flowing from Twitter or Facebook, we can declare a winner. :)
- Dawn
Amazing level of transparency and detail about their custom storage servers. HN discussion at http://news.ycombinator.com/item... (discusses why this is appropriate for backup, but perhaps not generic storage needs)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
45 drives per unit and many units means they must be constantly replacing failed hard drives - just due to the sheer quantity of them in use
- Jacob Old
It wasn't entirely clear to me from the blog post what you have to do to replace a drive. Looks like at minimum you have to remove the unit from the rack, and I don't see any drawer guides or similar to assist with that. And do they have to take the unit offline to replace a single drive?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Geez. Back in 1998, Microsoft was bragging about their 1 TB cloud... :-) Millions of $ then I think.
- Mitchell Tsai
One happy Backblaze customer checking in.
- Russellreno
sounds neat - now what to do with 67 TB of storage...
- Matt Ellsworth
Seriously Matt! Lots and Lots and Lots of video? HD video!
- Rick Cogley
So, they store their data "securely" in Palo Alto? That makes me scared.
- Jonas S Karlsson
Quoted from blog- "Backblaze Storage Pods are building blocks upon which a larger system can be organized that doesn’t allow for a single point of failure." They have indicated an amazing amount of cost savings.
- Wins Fern
Mitchell: I don't think 1TB was "millions of dollars" in 1998.
- Steve de Mena
Nice idea. Pity that it only supports a HTTPS interface, not surprising at that cost though (the software that runs the filesystems on the NetApp and other devices isn't exactly cheap to write). Anyone see if they quoted transfer speeds? I'm wondering what impact the four SATA cards each with SATA multipliers on them has when it comes to access speeds.
- Russ
Steve: according to http://www.littletechshoppe.com/ns1625... disk cost ~$0.08 / mb in 1998, which comes out to >$800,000 for 1 TB or just over a million bucks in todays dollars. so maybe not millions, but a million!
- Karl Rosaen
Russ: It runs Debian. If you were rolling your own (and they don't sell these units), you could turn on NFS or some other protocol (CIFS, iSCSI). They only use HTTP because it's cloud storage. NFS license is a major expense on NetApp, but all the major Linux distributions can act as NFS servers, CIFS servers, and probably iSCSI targets.
- Andy Dustman
Andy: I know that you could do that on them but it leaves the problem of what to do with the storage. You could merge the 3 volumes into an LVM VG but the performance could become an issue with any load on it. It seems I wasn't the only one to question the performance, while the views of a Sun engineer aren't exactly unbiased it does highlight some of the downsides: http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archive...
- Russ
Fascinating article; but more questions: "In rough terms, every time one of our customers buys a hard drive, Backblaze needs another hard drive." -- so what happens when a drive fails; how much redundancy is there? What happens when a meteorite destroys the whole building; is there off site backup too? (I know this *is* the off-site backup, but still...) I wonder how much data flows in and out over time. Maybe I should just read their website.
- Rob Fisher
Rob: they mention using 15 drive RAID6 volumes that can lose up to 2 drives before failure
- Mike Chelen
The worst part about this cluster design is the fact that I couldn’t shut up about it for the first couple days after finding out about it. It was the solution I proposed to every problem. There were complaints.
- A Mitchell
IMO RAID6 is not that great. Granted, it's highly unlikely to lose 3 drives at the same time, but there's still possibility. Besides, for write-intensive app, parity calculation is quite time-consuming. I personally prefer RAID 10 (striped array of RAID1 pairs). Yes the effective usable space is less than half total capacity, but for backups -- which will sooner or later be used to restore something -- I prefer data integrity over usage efficiency.
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
from fftogo
IMO RAID6 is not that great. Granted, it's highly unlikely to lose 3 drives at the same time, but there's still possibility. Besides, for write-intensive app, parity calculation is quite time-consuming. I personally prefer RAID 10 (striped array of RAID1 pairs). Yes the effective usable space is less than half total capacity, but for backups -- which will sooner or later be used to restore something -- I prefer data integrity over usage efficiency.
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
from fftogo
I just went back to it today after a couple weeks hiatus.
- Bryan R. Adams
I just wish they had a web service or something that worked with Safari
- Jesse Stay
Coach: I've been using it for a while. Not late at all. It's just that this new version finally nailed it for me and got me excited. Why? It shows friends. That's the main thing I liked about Google Reader.
- Robert Scoble
Thank you Robert @Jesse a few people have been able to get an experimental feedly for safari running (see http://blog.feedly.com/2009... ) Andre: I expect us to push out a Chrome version out in October.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I've said it before and I'll say it again; Google should buy feedly! It's my favorite app by far.
- Michael Fidler
@Michael: We would actually prefer to see Google Reader become a platform like twitter and feedly be one of the clients built in that ecosystem. For RSS to go mainstream, you are going to need a lot of different niche experiences to emerge.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Happy to hear feedly works for you, does Firefox? It runs_slowly_for_me...
- David Libby
The thing is utterly incomprehensible.
- Dominic Jones
Yeah. Feedly has been my homepage for a few months. Love it to death.
- Quasar
Feedly is fantastic. Not sure why more people aren't using it. I'd love to hear what the guys on TWIG think of it in particular.
- invariant - farewell FF
I just installed feedly last night and have just started using it. I'm looking forward to putting it through it's paces tonight. Looks very slick.
- Aaron Schaub
from iPod
Feedly is one of my fave apps. Hardly look at google reader since I started using Feedly and so easy to cross post too!
- Ange Recchia/angesbiz
Edwin: definitely looking forward to it.
- motownmutt
I seem to get the Bad Feed error on every feed listing on the "featured sources" list. The main things work OK, but the side bar listings routinely give be feed errors.
- Keith Rowland
I am going to have to give this thing a try.
- Vadim Lavrusik
Feedly for Chrome, please? Pretty please?
- Craig Eddy
yay I can't wait to see it in Oct for Chrome!
- metalerik
@Keith. Yes. There was an encoding regression in a patch we pushed out this afternoon. This problem has been fixed in 2.x.014 and everything should be working correctly next time you restart firefox. Sorry for the inconvenience.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I was using Feedly a while ago and went back to Google Reader. It was just too painful to keep up with all my feeds.
- Jody Fanning
from twhirl
@feedly has completely taken over my use of google reader...
- Andy Bryant
Love, feedly, looking forward to trying the Safari version
- Kim Landwehr
from BuddyFeed
yeah feedly is great, but try the greasemonkey plugins for reader. i like enhanced black. when its late and dark and i just want to scan the internets its perfect on the eyes
- Robert Higgins
Feedly is severely broken for me. I can't get it to show all on the latest tab. The drop down that works on other tabs does nothing there.
- Otto
Sorry if this question is a rookie mistake, but pros/cons GoogleReader vs Feedly? THANKS.
- Jimmy Watson
I think Tyson Gay ran a really really good race - 9.71 is really really fast, I think it might even be the fastest non-Usain time. I really liked Usain's press conference before the races though, where he said 'I just wanna run, ya know? I can't wait 'til Saturday'. He's a freak. You don't just take .11 off the 100. Nobody since it's gone under 10s has taken off more then 0.05s on the previous record.
- Will Higgins™
@Will ...to put this race in perspective: Tyson Gay's 9.71 is the second-fastest 100m time EVER... and he wasn't even close. http://bit.ly/1QXzkm
- .LAG liked that
9.71 is actually the 3rd fastest...Bolt ran a 9.69 before.
- chrisofspades
Chris... right, right. I meant that -- if Bolt wasn't in the race today, a race where he ran the fastest time and broke his own record -- Gay's 9.71 would be the second fastest time ever ...semantics, I know. ;-P
- .LAG liked that
He has to be on Steroids. When Ben Johnson ran 9.79 everyone said he was what about Usain Bolt. I am not saying what he did was not amazing but the relity is he took something somewhere.
- Rob Cairns
@RobCairns ...drug-testing is pretty rigid in track-and-field these days... but then, in these times, nothing will surprise us.
- .LAG liked that
right LAG. Tyson probably didn't wake up this morning thinking, "if I run a 9.71, I'll get smoked."
- chrisofspades
this man is super and unbelivable run run run
- SERKAN GÜNEL
Eh, rob these days you can't trust anybody, that said, -- I don't trust those other guys and he's STILL smoking the field like it's nothing. What we're seeing is incredible
- Richard Lawler
Bolt is awesome...amazing speed and he's a riot.
- Jeunelle Foster
Amazing. He just obliterated the old record. Not even close. And he's got some showman in him too. Great for the sport.
- Hutch Carpenter
You have to feel a little sorry for Tyson Gay. I do think it's a good thing though that American track has been served a big fat slice of humble pie recently, as sometimes the attitudes of the athletes can be excessive. @Jeunelle - Seeing Usain win just makes you happy, doesn't it! And it's obvious that he really enjoyed winning yesterday, his 'Superman' pose was especially emphatic.
- Will Higgins™
And LAN: The wikipedia page has been vandalized. Aditya Dabas apparently ran a 9.48 yesterday at the Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium, India. It's true. Fixed now.
- Will Higgins™
Gay's Personal Best prior was a 9.77, so he shaved 0.06 seconds off his PB. THAT is a great performance.
- Will Higgins™
@Willl....I usually root for the underdog and hell yes it makes me happy when I see someone from the poorest regions of the earth suck it to America. Roflmao Why should America have all the fame and glory? Don't we ALL strive to be great too? :)
- Jeunelle Foster
He's either on steroids - which seems unlikely to me - or Bolt is a mutant. :)
- Bill Sodeman
Bill if he was on drugs at that speed he would have a heart attack and collapse already. Now he may have smoked some weed and inhaled as any Jamaican would but I strongly doubt he's on drugs :)
- Jeunelle Foster
How long can records in these races keep on falling? It's just amazing.
- Kathy Fitch
Tyson wouldn't have probably run 9.71 if Bolt wasn't there ahead of him. Sprinters normally do better when there's someone ahead of them. You see a lot of personal bests for sprinters/swimmers who end up at no 2.
- Nikhil Dandekar
@Nikhil ...that's a good point. and maybe with Bolt competing, we'll start to see average times of the world's top sprinters start to drop as they train with him in their sights. i think he can probably go faster. he's already broken the WR three times in the last few years.
- .LAG liked that
@Kathy: They said on TV yesterday that an University (can't remember the name) released a study saying that the limit for a human being is to run 100 meters in 9.29 seconds. We'll see if he gets there. ;)
- Alejandro
LAG, most definitely he can go faster. he's only 22, and an athlete's prime is 25-28 or so, which is about the age other sprinters were breaking records.
- chrisofspades
@Mike, yup. Bittersweet is a good way to put it. It was a great office, as was the one before it, and I'm sure the next one will be too. :)
- Dan Hsiao
Don't throw away the Fluff... FF will always share a special place with (f)F in my heart
- Mike Sego
My Reaction to Monday's News... In Lego (Left to Right Chronologically). I want to know what's behind the Question Mark to Make the Last Two a Reality. :)
Jesse, if the slanted-mouth-smiley means you're still confused, Louis is describing his reaction over time to the news that FB acquired FF.
- Stephen Mack
Louis, this should win an award. Love Love Love!!!!!
- Myrna
(> " )> (_l_) <( " <) Kirby thinks a fanny is missing. and the subsequent smiles and smirks are finding amusement in his own antics.
- Geoff Schultz
"Researchers have discovered a way to take complete control over an iPhone merely by sending special SMS messages and demonstrated it on my iPhone at the Black Hat security conference on Wednesday. Although an attacker could exploit the hole to make calls, steal data, send text messages, and do basically anything that I can do with my iPhone, the researchers were kind and merely rendered it temporarily inoperable."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Not for me yet :) - I think this has a lot to do with the people who read lifehacker and the type of user they likely are. I am very much a geek but have stuck with Apple's mail b/c I use the same machine all the time (work+personal) so it's less of an issue.
- Mike Bracco
I use outlook for my Y! and gmail accounts.
- David Cook
from fftogo
Not surprising especially considering Lifehacker's audience. To be fair GMail accounts for just over 10% of webmail users. Yahoo is still the king of webmail. http://weblogs.hitwise.com/us-heat...
- Adi
I only use gmail via my cellphone since it has push, otherwise, thunderbird on the desktop, tho, when I need to find an old email, it's right back to gmail for search.
- Richard Lawler
I've been using Gmail since it came out and never looked back. I'm just so sore we can't have our work email online. Flacid #NHS data security FTL :(
- CannonGod
No way. I'm a mail hog and will always want to be able to access/review mail even when I'm offline. Hate the delay scrolling mail when I want to get to something a couple of months ago
- Rick Emery
from twhirl
@Rick scrolling mail? But with gmal there's no need for that - a quick search and you're there
- Zee.
Yup, I would NEVER switch but as IT guy I keep walking into people who have never used a desktop mail client... times are changing!
- Gerard van Schip
Gerard, u would never change from desktop?
- Zee.
from iPhone
I use Outlook (full version) at work to access our Exchange-based E-mail. It blows away any webmail experience I've tried. My personal E-mail is GMail, which has a not-so-hot IMAP interface, so I don't try to use a desktop client for GMail. However, my GMail needs are like 1% of my work needs when it comes to E-mail, since personal is much more things like IM these days rather than E-mail.
- Christopher A. Wichura
I still use a desktop client. I work mainly on my laptop and it's very important to have offline access to email. I don't have access to wifi everywhere I might need to get into my email.
- Vaughn
If I could get all my old mail [lots of mail] out of entourage into my recent gmail apps account then I would exclusively use the gmail apps. When I think about it, I'm rarely offline. Horses for courses I guess.
- 1x29
You can connect to gmail with IMAP. Create another account in Entourage and drag all the email over from one account to the other. That's what I did in Thunderbird to copy stuff from my IMAP server. I tried doing this in Evolution, but Evolution blows any kind of mass email management.
- Andy Bakun
At home I stopped using Thunderbird about 5 months ago and never looked back. At work I use outlook, but also use NEO Pro to make it "usable"... http://www.caelo.com/
- Vince DeGeorge
Outlook is horrible, Gmail runs circles around it, it is a crime that Microsoft actually charges money for Outlook.
- Kelly Johns
google fails miserably on a coupe of fronts... good examples? contact management and calendars, for starters. I use it for personal mail but I really don't see it supplanting outlook in businesses who actually use outlook for its strengths until stuff like that is improved drastically. I still hate troutlook though :)
- mjc
Personal preferences cannot be “confirmed,” and needs vary among users. I swap between desktop and web email when the time calls for it. Web is certainly convenient, but desktop is quite a bit more powerful. I cannot easily select 20 random photos from iPhoto or Windows Explorer and have web-friendly copies automatically created and attached to a Gmail message. But I *can* do that with...
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- David Chartier
I'm a programmer, a sysadmin, and an office IT guy, and I switched my domain over to gmail a few months ago. As for off-line access, gmail can go off-line if you install Google Gears.
- Andy Bakun
83% of statistics are made up on the spot
- Bwana ☠
I use Apple's Mail client for most of my mail purposes, but I will go to my browser as well. Though, in all honesty, my primary means of handling email are through my iPhone.
- Mike Nayyar
Attention grabbing headline for sure, but LH readers are not your average Joe. Nevertheless, the shift to web-based email among non-enterprise users is quite apparent, if you see how Thunderbird has lost its shine!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I agree totally. In the past year I have switched entirely to web based. Love it.
- Drew Lucas
I used to use a desktop client on my junkbox, a few years ago, and ended up removing about 300MB of mail from my GMail account since I'd configured GMail to automatically remove stuff after retrieving it via POP3. Now, I just use the GMail web UI, for what it's worth. Sadly I've lost all that mail, after reinstalling numerous OSes on the said machine, but it's not a big deal. :(
- Tyson Key
I use Mailplane so which one am I? Desktop or web?
- Parvez Halim
The reason for this is portability and flexibility. Personally I use both but the big reason I use a desktop client is to offload mail I want to keep on to my pc.
- Rob Cairns
From reading through this thread and personal experience, one of the main reasons users are still attached to their desktop clients is for offline access. But, as many of the more knowledgeable readers know, Google, Yahoo!, and others are looking to make this offline access possible from your web browser. Google has implemented and tested Gears with several products including Gmail....
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- Kevin Mohr
I recently switched over to Gmail's web-based email and I'm not looking back. Webmail FTW!
- Amir
I would use gmail...but I run many different web sites from which I need to email customers/site visitors. Gmail won't allow me to send email from a POP3 account without saying "on behalf of <my gmail account name>" in the from field. This isn't acceptable for how I run my different businesses and websites. Anyone know when Google is going to fix this?
- Justin
Justin: I got over this by managing my email with google apps. I'm not suggesting its working out perfectly but it does operate my emails as per the domain not 'on behalf of'.
- 1x29
@Adrian, thanks for the tip. Haven't done anything with google apps to date. Will look into it.
- Justin
I've recently made the switch to Gmail too. Really enjoying the filters and labels, and built in Google Talk. Not looking back yet :-)
- Jalada
"google fails miserably on a coupe of fronts... contact management and calendars, for starters." - Exactly. If "Outlook" = "Email and nothing else," you don't need Outlook. Comparing GMail to Outlook is incorrect - compare Outlook to Gmail, Gmail Contacts, GMail tasks, Google Calendar, etc. I use Outlook on my Google Apps domain email, but Gmail's Contacts leave a lot to be desired.
- John Craft
I still use Windows Mail at the moment only because I have it set up exactly how I want it - this could change in the future
- outofmyarse
Okay, but I still prefer a dedicated IMAP server. 'Control', less bandwith usage.. and it's IMAP ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
@hannah: You can route multiple email addresses through Gmail.
- CannonGod
I think Gmail only supports retrieval of other addresses via POP
- Jalada
from IM
Yes, even Hotmail. I use it for that, as a matter of fact
- LANjackal
from IM