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FFing Enigma
Once US police are allowed to waterboard US citizens as part of an investigation, I will view it as a valid interrogation technique.
Not sure what distinction that provides -- but I suggest you not wish for this. - Brian Sullivan
Once US police are allowed to waterboard US citizens as part of an investigation, I will view it as a sign that I need to get the f**k out of this country, thankyouverymuch. :P - Shawn C. Reed
I wouldn't agree with the use of torture anyway. - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ from BuddyFeed
I don't wish for this, at all. My statement is similar to "I'll see it as valid when pigs fly": the American public would never tolerate these types of techniques being used against them by their own government. - FFing Enigma from fftogo
And Tina -- I am saying that pigs may well fly - Americans have been surprisingly tolerant to the rise of fascism in the US. (and again I don't see any distinction between CIA torturing non US citizens and US police torturing US citizens -- both are heinous -- and making a distinction even jokingly is scary in its own right) - Brian Sullivan
Hyperbole folks, I'm speaking in hyperbole! THERE IS NO DISTINCTION, that's my whole freaking point. For those that think waterboarding etc. are valid interrogation techniques I would expect that they have no qualms seeing those same techniques utilized in standard investigations by US police forces across the country. If the DO have qualms about our police using those techniques, then that IS VERY OBVIOUSLY A SIGN THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE TECHNIQUE. Sweet jeebus, I thought you all knew me by now... - FFing Enigma
What's interesting to me is the spin some are putting on the justice dept memos about using torture. At first, it was waterboarding, etc. weren't effective in uncovering useful information. Now Cheney and others are saying they did get valuable information. Who do you believe; does it really matter? - Tom Landini
Matthew: That's why I asked does it matter that it works. Do we as a people endorse this kinda stuff, or don't we. After all the debate and stuff, it comes down to that. - Tom Landini
oh well they are authorized to use the taser.. so thats close enough ! - Peter Dawson
There is a whole segment of us who can answer questions about "torture" and its long term effects and the ethics involved. I've conducted "waterboardings". I've "tortured" people...but it's always been voluntary. The debate is ongoing...and I can tell you I do NOT agree with what the government allowed. If you care to read the debate, do so...it's NSFW, so be warned. http://cli.gs/ndzBR2 - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Tasers are used as defense weapons Peter, not as interrogation devices. If you're aware of a municipality that has authorized the use of tasers for interrogation purposes, let us know. - FFing Enigma
from your lips to...uh-oh - Anthony Farrior
Arianna Huffington weighs in on this: "But this is not about personal pique or a desire for vengeance. It's about the nation's fundamental morality." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna... - Tom Landini
That's rich. Arianna Huffington commenting on morality. - Robert Kenney
Umm, and why shouldn't she? She's a left-wing journalist, and... ? - Karl Knechtel
When Congress is allowed to waterboard each other, while we all watch it on CSPAN, then I'll accept it. - April