Moreover: how do ladies who wear their pants tighter sit down for an extended period of time without doing damage to their nether bits? Perhaps I should add 'tight pants' to the list of things I failed in girl school - FFing Enigma

because cotton fibers contract with the heat. And then as the day wears on, the cotton stretches. (I think I just dropped some science) - Gunnybear ™

But the lycra, Gunny: the lycra is supposed to combat that! - FFing Enigma

the lycra is a lie. - Gunnybear ™

Let me try to make this observation without being insulting. Perhaps "the fault, my dear Enigma, is not in our stars but in ourselves." Meaning, perhaps by midday the human body no longer has the resilient springiness that it does when completely rested? - DGentry

Denton, I'm pretty sure she's talking about the pants...not herself. :P - caj

I know that heat from the dryer can harm the lycra that give them their stretch, and over time the lycra loses its elasticity and stretches out too much (aka saggy ass). I hang dry my good jeans now, and it keeps them from getting too tight/then saggy and they last longer. - Ginger Makela Riker

*sob* I KNOW GUNNY!!! That's what makes the ladies in their super tight pants an even bigger mystery to me! How is it they're not bruising all their lady bits? And Denton, I'm not really sure how that logic would apply. If anything it would be the reverse: tight pants in the a.m. that turn into loose pants by p.m. implies that the human body shrinks (firms up?) throughout the day. Both of those theories are probably hogwash =D - FFing Enigma

Agree with that too, Ginger, but this starts right when the pants are new, not after several washings. - FFing Enigma

No lady bits were harmed in this production.... I don't know how women deal with most of the crap they think us men want them to wear. - Gunnybear ™

Amazing how squashed lady bits jump right out of the scroll. - Tony C (Unrated) from fftogo

Is that like <!DOCTYPE JEANS PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR..."> ? - Tinfoil 2.0

This particular issue is why I prefer to buy men's jeans: loose from the get go. Plus, none of that annoying "cut you in half when you sit down" bull. - FFing Enigma

They should lace in a bit of carbon fiber instead of lycra, then. - DGentry

True that, Denton. I do have a pair of jeans lined with kevlar, but that's a different story altogether. - FFing Enigma

I air dry mine (100% cotton), but still like them better after I've loosened them up a bit. - Tinfoil 2.0

It would appear I'm the only one who can't stand the feel of air dried jeans: entirely too crunchy & abrasive for my taste. And before it's suggested, I won't use liquid fabric softener in the wash. Leaves a funky film on my skin I can feel all day long *shudder* - FFing Enigma

I know you've already responded to Ginger, but I think she has the right idea here. Even fully drying jeans once in the dryer can do the damage. I don't do it, but the smart thing to do is to partially hang dry your jeans every time you wash them. From the very beginning. I can't resist fluffing them in the dryer from time to time to lose some of that stiffness. - Jen (SquirrelGirl)

Perhaps the squashed girly bits has to do with the rise of the jeans more than the tightness? I've noticed a big difference depending on the height of the waist. - Heather Solos

I don't know, Heather; I've got a rather high waist and haven't had a pair of jeans that actually hit it since the early 90s. Just about everything I find in stores is low to mid rise nowadays. - FFing Enigma

There are comments I would love to make, But they would only: A.) Get me in trouble with my wife, B.) Make me sound like a sexist Pig and I forgot what C was, so I'll just read in silence - sort of. - Brent - Yes I am

I had an incredible jean buying experience in San Francisco. The guy that was helping me was amazingly good and looked at me, turned around and brought me the pair of jeans I wound up buying. The key is (unfortunately) to buy them very tight in the hips/butt, because they loosen over time and you might need to break them in like new shoes. I too follow Ginger's sage advice. - JoEllen

Seven makes a high rise bootcut that is a) not really high as much as normal b) just boot enough. - Sarah Miller

I can't speak to the original query, but I can recommend dryer balls as an alternative to fabric softener. We've been using one set for about three years. For avoiding heat damage to the Lycra, air drying and then running them through the dryer on 'fluff' with a pair of dryer balls should do it. - Michael R. Bernstein

*sigh* Unfortunately JoEllen, jeans are always tight in the butt and typically loose in the waist. Dave has asked me to not do anything to rectify that situation, though. I'm only 'allowed' to do side bends and sit-ups ;-) - FFing Enigma

baby got back. - JoEllen

There is a BK commercial looking for you! - Tony C (Unrated) from fftogo

But, I don't have a square rear end!! =P - FFing Enigma

The kevlar could fix that ;) - Tony C (Unrated) from IM

Oh, Tina, I'm so there with you. In fact, as I put my jeans on this morning I thought to myself "these are totally going to be saggy by midday." And then I'm constantly hitching them up like a farmer. And I HATE line-dried jeans. Too scratchy! - Lis

GAH!!! Not the problem I'm having Matthew!!! Lis: glad I'm not alone on this one. I may have to save stretchy jeans for the days where I won't be sitting down at all: they seem to keep their shape better. How sad... - FFing Enigma

Matthew, I'll see you your Coin Slot, and raise you Mom Jeans: http://www.hulu.com/watch... - Michael R. Bernstein

Lightweights! http://friendfeed.com/isthiss... - FFing Enigma

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Sure enough, I totally had sag-ass by lunch and laughed about this thread. - Lis