IE, Apple is taking over the castle from Nokia in the mobile phone space. Twitter is making a strong move on the social networking castle that Facebook owns.
- Robert Scoble
Gowalla is taking BrightKite's castle
- Peter Kelley
Anyway, the question is, where do you see entrenched "winners" under attack by new companies or ideas.
- Robert Scoble
Peter: FourSquare is doing a better job of doing that than Gowalla is.
- Robert Scoble
FIOS is a non-issue until they lose the "higher market" feel - i.e. it won't be in my working class neighborhood for another 2 years
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Louis Gray is taking over the Robert Scoble castle.
- Cristo
Anything related to keeping data tied to a physical location is dead. Freedom of mobility has stormed the castle and is now dancing in the courtyard as it burns down around it.
- Adrian Pike
squarespace is showing wordpress how to be a better hosted service -- *with their own product!*
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ankush: I don't agree that Bing is really disrupting Google that much yet. It's a nice thought, though, and it is a fun fight to watch, so I agree there.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I still see a lot of Blogger blogs, but you're right. SquareSpace is making a big move.
- Brett Nordquist
We need something to take a bit away from WordPress - too much insecurity stuff in the press recently
- Jalada
Ankush: we think alike, I had that on my whiteboard already.
- Robert Scoble
rackspace still has a pricing misconception demon to shake loose
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Are Wordpress and Drupal different castles?
- Peter Kelley
I love the cool ads on free squarespace blogs. Makes me think of blogspot in 2002
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
I wish Rackspace would give me a huge amount of storage to host my blog, pictures and music, but make it affordable and easy to access from any device with internet.
- Brett Nordquist
drupal is being stormed by mindtouch - now that is a sleeper-awakening fight
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Google is moving against Twitter by adding contextual streams to web pages via Scoble's favorite tool: SideWiki
- Ankush Narula
from iPhone
Mike: that's an interesting one. I don't watch mindtouch that much, I should do an interview with them.
- Robert Scoble
@bear: On Intranets or more generally, there are a lot of Drupal sites out there
- Peter Kelley
Robert: Checking that out now. Did not know about it.
- Brett Nordquist
Ankush: I don't agree there, but that's one to put on the board as a potential disrupter.
- Robert Scoble
Windows Mobile 6.5 was found dead in the moat.
- Brett Nordquist
peter - on the intranets - but that means they will bust out when the open-source side catches up with what they have commercially developed
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
robert - mindtouch is moving in all the right places and in the proper direction ;)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert: give it a year regarding Bing -MS know how to commoditized better than anyone (as u know!)
- Ankush Narula
from iPhone
Got Brizzly on your whiteboard? I think they're up to something
- Jalada
First you have to define who's in the castle that is being taken over.
- Alex Scoble
yea, brizzly is looking at their feature set getting over shadowed by twitter doing a "me also" update
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jalada: I need a whole whiteboard on Twitter clients. Damn, did you see Tweetie 2.0 yet? You should, it's going to take over the iPhone app space for Twitter clients.
- Robert Scoble
Mike: it will be interesting to see what Seesmic does about Tweetie 2.0.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, Tumblr and Posterous are also disrupting Wordpress and Blogger.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Seen the coverage of it. Can't wait to get my hands on it. We're re-engineering our iPhone app at Twitterfall too, it's sure to give us some ideas ;-)
- Jalada
VMWare/Spring Source are taking over the RedHat/JBoss castle
- Peter Kelley
For that matter what about threadsy? They are surely capable of disrupting the webmail market if marketed properly
- Ankush Narula
from iPhone
Posterous is fantastic and i'm using it to replace Flickr in some areas.
- Brett Nordquist
I predict tumblr and posterous merging by the end of the year - they are just too awesome to fight each other
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ankush: I heard threadsy had some performance issues, have they been ironed out?
- Jalada
Microsoft Office Web tries bringing in the battering rams, but isnt doing much right now against the heavily fortified walls of Google Docs
- Kevin Traver
Mike: I have some ideas, but they require you guys to become curation tool before Tweetie gets there.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin, I see Google Docs as breaking over the castle wall into Microsoft territory right about now, actually. :-)
- Robert Scoble
robert - yes, we need to become the goto place for both current and historical data flow
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Cloud computing is like a fog that's obscuring the view between castles. When the fog lifts, no telling whose castle will be left standing and who will be crushed.
- Paul Blasman
from iPhone
But Microsoft's castle is so big they still aren't worried. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Paul: Cloud Computing is just a tool to get over the wall. :-)
- Robert Scoble
bear - I think Groovy/Grails are doing a better job of storming the ROR castle and many other web framework castles besides
- Peter Kelley
cloudcomputing allows you to take the battle off the ground and just go *around* the others
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert: It's a magical tool that everyone says is great, but then find it's too small to get over big walls.
- Jalada
peter - hmm, then i'm not watching enough Groovy/Grails shops to get wind of that - i'll have to adjust
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Kevin: Google Wave is super slow for me today. And totally unusable. I don't know about people who like it. I think they are all nerds. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Google Wave is to far out on the horizon - it still has a chance to sink itself or run up on the reef of complicated-UI
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
This Friendfeed thread is taking over my social life!
- Brett Nordquist
I think they're handing out a new Wave (aha..) of invites today, slowly.
- Jalada
some of these battles are good ol' "dig under the walls and let it slowly collapse" fights, while others are storm-the-gates assaults
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert: At WordCamp Seattle two weeks ago, I was surprised to hear how many people were still on blogging platforms other than Wordpress. Assumed everyone was on WP already.
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: Yeah, that's wacky. What were the most popular non-Wordpress ones? Any idea why they are still on those?
- Robert Scoble
Brett - at PodCamp Philly last weekend almost everyone was asking how to use WordPress and if they should move from Blogger to WP (amongst the new blogger scene)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Adobe Flash coming under attack from HTML/5 if the major players will stop their HTML/5 codec bickering. For example a Safari plugin to switch YouTube Video from Flash to Apple H.264 http://bit.ly/JlWVO
- Ed Millard
Robert: almost all I spoke with were on Blogger. A few on Typepad and many had created websites that were out-of-date.
- Brett Nordquist
Mike: I'm not surprised. Maybe still too difficult to roll your own WP install?
- Brett Nordquist
Ed - good one - yea, if the HTML/5 scene doesn't stop fighting they are going to cede all that work to Flash
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Brett - some of that plus also the latest security issues were a big concern
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Mike: Good point about security. Lots of talk about that as well. Still too many hurdles for the less technical.
- Brett Nordquist
Brett - agreed - I was pointing everyone to hosted solutions by asking them the question: Do you *really* want to become a SysAdmin as well as a blogger?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Scobleizer's SUL taking over Twitter's SUL
- MadhuIyer
here's a challenge - let's talk about who's taking over what castle and *not* mention Twitter
- Dave Hodson
Madhulyer - and also true celeb's twitter lists taking over both of those SUL's
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Dave, wasn't Twitter mentioned in the first comment?
- Cristo
@Cristo - yup. I have Twitter fatigue; there must be other castles to storm out there
- Dave Hodson
Dave, I think I have castle storming fatigue.
- Cristo
I'm going to need some buffs if there's more castles to storm today.
- Brett Nordquist
I think the Twitter fatigue is due to the fact that people constantly reference it. Sure it is growing, super cool, the-best-thing-eva, but what *else* is out there? How about the impact that a service like Aardvark is having/not having on Yelp for example?
- Dave Hodson
Dave: fair enough but let's see your ideas for castles being stormed that don't include the T-word anywhere? :-)
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble - as I said, Aardvark and Yelp. I've been using Aardvark for a while now and I think they might be on to something.
- Dave Hodson
Dave: that's actually why I started this post, to see if there's any other battlefronts out there. Turns out there are. As to Yelp: I don't see @vark as a @yelp killer. I'm not even sure they are battling for the same thing. Most of the questions on @vark that I get have nothing to do with restaurants or places or businesses.
- Robert Scoble
I think @vark could disrupt Yahoo or Google search, though, and take away some revenue.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble - questions really depend on what you sign up for - I asked a question the other day about a good/quick place to eat near the Fillmore in SF and got several good replies right away. Yelp wouldn't really have helped me there. Plus the new iPhone app is pretty good. And not to be a total fanboy, but I really like the IM integration.
- Dave Hodson
Yeah, good point. I do love @vark, don't get me wrong.
- Robert Scoble
Brett - or the new tablets coming out (and not the apple one either!)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Mike, who is making the new tablets? I've not heard much then.
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: there are a couple already out in EU by Archos. Gateway's tablet PC was leaked and there is the hopefully coming Crunchpad. Those are just off the top of my head
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Chrome is taking over someones castle. im not sure if its ie or Firefox
- Anthony Feint
How about on the SSD front, OCZ Vertex line vs Intel X25's
- Joe Hanink
Skype, cell and Google Voice are taking over traditional telco phone landline castle
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Thanks for all the MindTouch mentions folks. Scoble, happy to talk again. It's been quite a while. Ping me and let's set something up. Happy to meet up when I'm in your neighborhood again.
- Roebot
I read 2,300 Twitter accounts and I was picking the best Tweets out of that stream and clicking favorite. http://twitter.com/scoblei... is where they are. I can't keep doing that. Not enough engagement. At least not on Twitter. I wonder if there is any value and if so what vehicle should it take?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Tweeted this earlier: Sorry about the work but I wouldn't look into those favorites as well. Maybe feed them back to your stream with a slow interval?
- Patrick Mackaaij
I miss the frequency of blogs you write while at MSFT.
- Brett Nordquist
Robert, you're not building value for yourself, for your own Google juice, and you're not providing a discussion forum. Re-blog a handful every day -- or even better, just 5 -- with their own permalink. Tell us why we should care rather than just hit the "favourite" button.
- Boris Mann
Eric: I really can't explain it. I looked at thousands of tweet and like the best ones.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Wouldn't it be nice of you could give us reasons?
- Eric
Robert - what was the expected outcome of the experiment, specifically?
- Brett Kelly
You should come up with a short hand code O+ = Originality
- Eric
@Boris: I would RT like that but with thousands of tweets...?
- Patrick Mackaaij
Brett: good point. I just notice that on these things everyone talks but very few are trying to curate.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
What're you looking for Robert? People to reply back and tell you that they love your favorites or are you just checking how many people are clicking on the links you look at? Also, why does it matter if there's "engagement"? Is this experiment about you doing what you find valuable for yourself or others?
- Robi
Twitter favorites are less useful than Google Reader shares and FriendFeed likes. And all of that is less interesting than your high quality blogging.
- Louis Gray
Robert: On second thoughts, it may become useful when Twitter develops an in-built RT utility. It become easier for your followers to select one of your favorites and RT it. Otherwise, there's a lot of copy-paste to do.
- K N Ajit Narayan
Boris: Google Juice? That doesn't matter to me much. But your advice is good.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Favorites would be a lot more fun if "fave-ing" sent an e-mail to the person who created the Tweet. That's how it works on identi.ca, it's kind of like a dm.
- Brian Hendrickson
I'm wondering if tweets can really be monetized, it just seems too esoteric.
- Eric
If I write lots of posts / links about a particular topic, then people find it through searching and the commentary continues to grow -- e.g. I rank highly for (trivial example) "ninja school" and there are hundreds of hilarious comments -- the continuing commentary is great
- Boris Mann
Brett: I didn't have an outcome just wanted to see if I could make something interesting.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert's blogging > Robert's Friendfeed > Robert's Google Reader > Robert's Favorites. Then again, your favorites are my starting point. It's how I prefer to get your pulse.
- Paul Papadimitriou
Robert...perhaps sorting your recent Twitter faves by number of other users who faved them to create a more multi-user crowd-curated feed would be better. I think that's what this page at Favstar is trying to do but seems to be a few hours behind http://favstar.fm/users...
- Mark Krynsky
people should be able to choose between subscribing to a Tweep, or to that Tweep's favorites feed...is that possible now?
- .LAG liked that
Robert, I dont care what someone has favorited on twitter, even though it is you and the ones I have seen are amazing. I use favoriting as a storage vessel that I can look back on tweets that picqued my interest. I retweet when I find something I want people to see.
- Jimminy
The two best use cases I've seen for starring tweets are favrd.com and marking things that you'd personally like to revisit.
- Brett Kelly
Jimminy: retweeting sucks. I will try this experiment again when they ship new retweeting features.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert: I believe that sponsored tweets are too hard for anyone to grasp. Even someone like yourself with lots of followers even agrees.
- Eric
RT is the most overrated and underdeveloped feature on Twitter.
- Eric
i for one am learning from your twitter favorites and feel like it's an underused asset to twitter. Not everything needs to be retweeted.
- ann glenn
Is there any way to see more than the first page? I can't get twitter to load the next page of them.
- RobinDotNet
Maybe you could use your posterous to reblog a few interesting entries a day. Light blogging. In between retweets/favorites and full-fledged blogging.
- Paul Papadimitriou
why use posterous when you can just hit the fav button and see a nice list?
- ann glenn
Robert, did you import the Favorite feed into FF, I seem to recall this but I'm not sure.
- Jimminy
Who needs to RT if there are favorites? I think there is just a certain psychology or status that people feel by RT. They do it to gain acceptance.
- Eric
Retweeting is only off-putting because of the crude manner with which it's executed (clicking "retweet", then "post"). The idea of sharing information with your own audience is fundamentally good, but people have missed that there needs to be added context, value or both when you perform such an action.
- Brett Kelly
I never use the favs but it would be cool if there were some type of social bookmark or tag you could make.
- Jeff
from iPhone
The value of a favorite tweet? How often do you revisit you own favorite tweets Robert? Would be nice to see an aggregator APP that can assign keywords. I would be interested in reading your favorites but not in one long list..
- Tyson
Yeah, there needs to be an artificial intelligence bot that tells people something. "Sorry, but this has been retweeted too many times!"
- Eric
RT is useful - if the person really embodies what I want to say, or I want to share THEIR phrasing, it's a straight RT - otherwise I'll read the original link and say what I want to say, perhaps with a "via"
- Boris Mann
Robert: What do you think of limiting the amount of times something can be RT?
- Eric
there is no real feedback when someone fav's one of your tweets. Flickr let's you know when it happen.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Also wouldn't it be possible for you to stream it into FF and back out into a @scobleizerfavorite twitter account? Maybe using Yahoo Pipes?
- Jimminy
I favorite things on twitter for 2 reasons: to make it easier to find again later , and to share on other services. I do both through the rss feed of favorites, in google reader and other readers (for archiving) and here in friendfeed Ifor sharing, and yes, they do get likes so it does share someone's tweet to people who dont know that person). I find it less obtrusive than RT in many cases
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Eric: I have to see how that works before I form an opinion.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
boris - yes i agree retweeting is good when you have something to add to the story, but if not, you should just favorite and bookmark.
- ann glenn
Wouldn't it be cool to have your favorites on a spindle or projected with a laser beam on your wall or something?
- Eric
Alway use faves for personal use Robert and never thought of sharing them...I'd be interested in reading thru yours, but cant vouch for everyone. Most likely its a waste of time; hope you can prove me wrong..
- Ahad Bokhari
Scoble's favorites on the billboard at Times Square!
- erik yuzwa
How often do you read other peoples favorites versus reading a rt? I'm not sure if I have ever read the favs
- Jeff
from iPhone
I wonder if people would be trying to "click" them with their finger though...
- erik yuzwa
Think about it this way, if Robert Scoble's favorites are really that great, then all you would need to follow would be one person, Robert Scoble. Let him do the work for you.
- Eric
so favorites are the question not necessarily the RT's
- Caroline
If anyone has any suggestions on how I can improve favstar.fm for Robert or yourself, please tell @favstar on Twitter.
- Tim
from iPhone
It makes sense when you think about it. Rather than RT 10 a day, you've got one tweet a day of your favorites coming from an authority on technology news.
- Eric
There's just too much clutter to weed through.
- Eric
Favorites have no context. Robert, if you retweet the same link to your favourites daily, we lose all context. RT more good favourites here vs. Blog post: lots of good links to the "blogs are back" discussion -- the latter is tons more valuable
- Boris Mann
I believe there is a blog that does something similar to what Robert Scoble does.
- Eric
not everyone on Twitter uses it in the same way that you did Robert either
- Caroline
Twitter w/o structure is like watching the tagcloud go by on del.icio.us. Favorites gives it some structure, but to what end? Interesting discoveries. But not purpose-driven. It's like del.icio.us needed the virality and spontaneity of twitter or twitter needs to organization of del.icio.us. SU is probably the closest thing to twitter + del.icio.us
- Michael
If you want to keep knowledge stored use the blog. Twitter is for here and now discusions. I can't figure out what favorites are for. So I don't use them...
- Nisse
Robert, if you're interested in trying it I'd be willing to have favstar.fm update your favorites every minute. I think I can add some value, and would be willing to assist you in experimenting. Ping me tmhaines at gmail daught com if interested.
- Tim
from iPhone
Sometimes knowing about too many tools related to news makes it hard to really get news! I have so many ways to get news nowadays!
- Eric
^^^ I think Mark Krynsky has a great idea with RSS and favorites. Many possibilities there...
- Ahad Bokhari
Thanks Ahad...but I think having Tim work with Robert to get some feedback and implement some better features might be the start of a winning solution. I might have to help out on that solution as well.
- Mark Krynsky
I rarely use Twitter's "favorite" function. I've favorited only 3 tweets, and all of them were really interesting takes on Chris Pirillo's #stpuid hashtag, which I and others tried to trend. I might subscribe to Robert's favorites feed in Google Reader, though... ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
RT is just a way to broadcast your favorites because nobody is looking at them. I do however sometimes add context at the end of them to let people know _why_ I favorited it.
- Mark Krynsky
Does anyone use Plurk? Just wondering, because it seems to be less talked about.
- Eric
"Like" on FF is definitely more useful than "Favorite" on Twitter. As for RT: it's the accepted way to spread the news on Twitter. Some people (like me) like to add a little comment to their retweets, but the new RT API doesn't allow that.
- Dennis Jernberg
Eric: I have an account on Plurk but just can't stand the UI.
- Robert Scoble
Dennis... agreed that likes on FF are more useful than favorites on Twitter. I think the point is to find a way to have the same value by using the functionality built on Twitter allowing users to do so natively within the service. A 3rd party app like Favstar.fm could provide that functionality if enough people buy into the behavior of using Twitter to favorite tweets by experiencing the value of doing so.
- Mark Krynsky
Welcome Mark checked out favstar and im sure ya'll will deliver a great solution. GL with that..
- Ahad Bokhari
I retweet others, and am retweeted in turn. I don't have many original tweets (mostly retweets and conversations), so I'm not retweeted all that much. (No, I don't use Plurk. Might check it out eventually...)
- Dennis Jernberg
Ahad...for the record I'm not affiliated with Favstar...I just think it's a great service :)
- Mark Krynsky
something else to think about. As a brand its more valuable to see the retweets because i can't see the number of favs publicly (unlike tumblr). Would love to see both. also, retweets gives me exposure to people i may not otherwise have access to.
- ann glenn
Mark..oh i know that did my research. I do too :-) Whats important to me is to connect and learn from like-minded people..Best to you.
- Ahad Bokhari
Checked out Favstar, and noticed that @sween and @badbanana are popular precisely because of their outrageous tweets. Saw a bunch of tweets @Scobleizer favorited, Only 5 tweets of mine were favorited. Like I said, I've favorited only 3 tweets, and they're the best ones from the failed attempt to trend #stpuid.
- Dennis Jernberg
Robert, all the best conversations seem to start while I'm putting the kids to bed and tidying up. In an hour or so I'll be able to get started. I'll ping you on gtalk/Jabber once I have the updates occurring and we can chat about other potential tweaks. (Mark - I'm interested in your feedback too - I trust you saw my email address above, and you can always DM me on twitter.)
- Tim
Tim, cool, I'm at scobleizer@gmail.com and operators are standing by! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Given that leo does video for many hours a day and is constantly streaming, it doesn't seem like an outrageous request that they not use that name.
- Nathan Loehlein
If he has a TM on twit then has he defended it against twitter ? That has twit in the name.
- Jimmy Gardner
from iPhone
If the company called itself twittervid I bet leo would leave them alone. The TM needs defending because Leo's product includes video. LOTS of video.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
It's the combination of the word TWiT with audio or video content that causes the problem. We're cool with Twitter, twitpic, etc. as long as they're not doing audio or video shows.
- Leo Laporte
Seems very reasonable, Leo. Have you sent them a C&D?
- Eric Florenzano
Yeah. And they refused so we've filed suit. twitvid.io was very cooperative - they've agreed to rebrand - please use them instead. They're really great guys, too.
- Leo Laporte
Ouch, doesn't sound fun but you've got to defend your trademark. Bookmarking twitvid.io.
- Eric Florenzano
I also like tweetreel for the iPhone. Tweet is a much better word than twit for these things, don't you think? ;-)
- Leo Laporte
Is it wrong that I just sent them an email "innocently" (playing dumb) warning them that they are in the video space, and that TWiT holds a trademark in that space, and that they should really consider changing, such that a good service doesn't get blowed up because of douchey behavior? (stealing)
- Matthew DeVries
For whom is twitvid more likely to cause consumer confusion? If anyone, it would be Twitter (who have a long tradition of NOT protecting their actually much stronger trademark). It wouldn't be TWiT. Unless Twitvid is producing some general interest technology show. Oh wait, it's not. It looks like a Twitter-specific Vimeo. Even the logo is aimed at Twitter. If I were them I would respond to your C & D the same way I did when I first heard of TWiT. "And who you are you, exactly?"
- mrshl
I was confused when I sawTwitvid. I thought it was a way for me to share short videos with the TWiT network, like if I found good prices on tech, or such. I was very confused.
- Matthew DeVries
1) I don't follow Leo's Twits. 2) Yes, I am aware that Leo has used the TWiT trademark longer than Twitter. 3) Or rather that Twitter really has never done anything with the trademark. But none of those things is relevant in the legal inquiry. Again, how are consumers going to be confused by the Twitvid site? They're clearly trying to confuse people into thinking they're a great site with which to upload videos to twitter. I.e., there is no confusion.
- mrshl
Yes, trademark holders should actually protect their trademark. But in this case, the party against whom it should have been protected was probably Twitter. As pretty much everyone knows, that horse has left the barn.
- mrshl
I think you know the answer to that question. Could another site or company call itself Twitter? In two years Twitter has become like Coke or Sears or Xerox. Does TWiT get mentioned all the time on CNN? Has your grandma heard of TWiT? Twitter is a trademark. And they've also trademarked "tweets."
- mrshl
Good thing you're not a lawyer, mrshi.
- Leo Laporte
This is as big an invasion into a party's space as if I were to open a quicky burger place and call it McDonald's. Mrshi - You're being obtuse, or playing dumb.
- Matthew DeVries
While I am sure it was not intentional that the owners of twitvid.com used the 'Twit' name, out of courtesy they should comply right away with any crease/desist sent to them. If I was the owner of twitvid, I would change the name asap out of pure respect for Leo and the Twit brand he has worked hard to develop.
- Alex Knight
haha. good thing i'm not yours. or twitvid's. good luck with the boycott. i recognize you've got a lot of fans, and a hell of lot of pull. and i'll be the FIRST to say i'm not a trademark expert. but i'm not seeing a good reason for asking your fans to boycott a video site clearly aimed at twitter. and i felt the same way when you announced you were leaving twitter for jaiku, in part over trademark concerns. i agree you have a trademark. i'm just not seeing the violation.
- mrshl
twitvid.io did, in fact, agree to rebrand. They've been great.
- Leo Laporte
I agree with mrshi that there's close to zero real-world chance of confusing twitvid with anything related to Leo. OTOH, if Leo doesn't actively defend the mark, he could be screwed sometime in the future when a truly infringing case arises. The legal system sucks all 'round.
- Roger Benningfield
from BuddyFeed
Leo has every right to request a boycott and I'll support it. Change the name.
- Steve Gillmor
from iPhone
When I think of 'twit" I think of Twitter first. Should we boycott Twitpic and Twitter too?
- Brett Nordquist
I agree with Leo here. Assuming US trade mark law works similarly to our trade mark law he has a valid complaint. The name has the potential to create confusion in the minds of whoever is familiar with TWiT and that is a lot of people. I also understand that Leo almost has to take steps to defend his trade mark both to retain his ability to enforce it in future and as a deterrent to...
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- Paul Jacobson
anyone want to mention that twitvid's site also looks like garbage? just saying...
- Jeremy Lane
Leo you know I will, and the twit army will, & anyone who knows ya will
- D Lets
I am supporting Leo on this boycott till they change there name..
- Fireman17
The Twit Army is being called into ACTION! Boycott, will do!
- Rob Summit
Sorry but what Christopher said............
- Kevin J Hatton
Twitter doesn't distinguish twit in the logo like these guys do.. And twitter is not doing anything remotely close to what twit does.. TwitVid.com does video. Twit does video.
- Anton Tanderup
I think Leo managed to work something out with Twitter though. Besides, it isn't just about the similarity of the name. It is the type of business the company is engaged in. TwitVid does video production, like TWiT, and that adds to the confusion.
- Paul Jacobson
Twitvid is such an obvious violation it would almost seem they are doing this out of some kind of spite. I call on all TWIT supporters to not only support Leo but also comment in every blog and web site stating this situation so other copyright pirates would think twice before pulling a stunt like this one. mrshl...if you are surely an attorney ambulance chaser I suggest you go back to night school and refresh your knowledge regarding copyright law.
- earl wallace
What I don't get is, if they hadn't heard of TWiT how can anyone say it is a is an intententional violation and not one a service simply stating that it is part of Twitter eco-system hence the logo hence the twit. I had never heard of TWiT, and I suspect 99% of twitter have never heard of TWiT either.
- Paul Kinlan
Earl, I don't think your personal attacks are very helpful.
- mrshl
Surely it's not really about whether they were intentionally/knowingly doing it? It's just the fact that Leo HAS to go after people potentially infringing on his trademark, whether he likes it or not, because otherwise he will just LOSE it. Regardless of the situation.
- Jalada
Looking at this objectively, this is actually not as binary as people make it out to be. On the surface, without any other knowledge, you see a name like TwitVid and you could come to the conclusion that they are somehow showing/pirating/someway using videos from TWiT. However, if you go to the site TwitVid.com, it is clearly associated with Twitter. From the logo, look and feel, text...
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- Joel Marcey
That might be a bit extreme, 10 days would be good. I think most people could find 10 quality people a day. Definitely cut them off at 500 within 2 weeks though.
- Shawn Kirsch
I agree. Maybe 100 is too few and 30 days too short. But I think something along those lines could be done and numbers and duration tweaked accordingly.
- Brett Nordquist
Thanks Christopher, yeah, he does have my wife's looks. He runs like me, though (I ran four marathons in high school, fastest one at 3:14, so hopefully he keeps it up).
- Robert Scoble
Robert - he's great! the little guy - love him!
- bradzo
Gosh, there sure is cool clothing for kids these days. I wore some goofy stuff at that age, but I suppose one might blame the '70s for that.
- Christopher A Carr
Robert, I like that you remember the time of your fasted marathon. I think a blog post about your marathoning days is in order. :-)
- Brett Nordquist
Nothing wrong with your photography Robert. :-) Wonderful series.
- Håkan Dahlström
Brett: not much to say except I took up running cause the jocks were always trying to beat me up. They once tried to tape me to a tree. They got my brother instead (not Alex). Actually I got into running because of my middle school science teacher at Hyde Jr. High, Mike Mister. Mr. Mr. is what we called him. Anyway, there's no secret to running marathons, you just have to run a LOT.
- Robert Scoble
By the way, this was the first time I used FriendFeed's photo feature. Very nice!
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I'd like to get in shape to the point where I can run one. Have a ways to go. Playing a lot of basketball lately.
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: to totally demoralize you, when I was in high school my running partner was a 45-year-old woman who ran 100 milers. She always kicked my ass. Probably explains why I don't run anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Great series, so cute! Our little guy just turned 2 and he sure does keep us running as well; wish I could bottle that energy! Our daughter is almost 14 and it is amazing the difference in technology we are using in "documenting" their lives growing up. Most of what we have of our daughter until she was 6 is plain old photos that will take us a while to digitize. With our son,...
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- W_B_K
Our daughter was born a few months before Milan (seriously, playdate next time we're back in the Santa Cruz area), but we have such blinders on that I saw this pic and thought "wow, how did that kid get so big already?" Oh. Right. He's two. Hope you're having as much fun as we are!
- Ryan Sholin
I got to save some $$$ to buy a camera, but with the remodeling at my casa going on...not now. UGH. And my Morning Star will be 21 months on the 22nd of July!!!
- Joel Robert Perez
hes running to get to a computer to check his friendfeed account!
- Allen Stern
You're totally right Robert, this IS a great photo set!
- Chris Heath
Awesome pics of the young scobleizer. Robert it's never too late to pick up running again. Although I've fallen in love with good old walking (can multitask better at 4mph), I can see the addiction to jogging for hours. That 100miler had years of training on you, no reason to be ashamed.
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Watch out, he's heading for the road! ;-)
- Jason Huebel
Jason: actually that is a golf cart path. Maybe Milan is the next Tiger Woods! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert: I hate to lower this conversation to base, mechanical concerns, but what lens is that? Lovely shots, by the way.
- Edward Coffey
Nice shot Robert. Milan looks all grown up these days! He's a celeb, and doesn't yet know it!
- Mark Aitken
So nice. I hated being two. I had cancer almost the same year. Now I hate being young, I can't get anything. Being a kid blows chunks.
- Zachary TG
Trust me Zachary, being an adult blows way bigger chunks. You can get stuff, sure, but you have to do stuff too. Like, ALL the time. Boring stuff.
- Slappy Line
Very straight back while running - very much like Michaal Johnson - he's going to be track star :)
- Patrick Jordan
really cute kid.. Nice shots i'm sure was hard to get him to pose..
- Randy Nacol
now we know you Robert thank you for sharing
- Thomas Power
@carloe さん。親バカは日本ではユーモラスなもの, 微笑ましいものとして扱われます。ですから、思わず吹いてしまったのは実に正しい(笑)。コトバが逆さになって、バカ親になると、これは少しばかりネガティブな意味合いを帯びてきますが。/@carloe Oya-Baka is used and understood as humorous or smily sence in Japan. Therefore it's exactly that you laugh my comment. However, it will have negative sence if you exchange sort of word as Baka-Oya.
- Sakurai.Catshop
from fftogo
@RickCogley 仰るとおりですね。笑って済まされるバカ親もいれば、子供の命や将来に関わるほどのバカ親まで、色んな種類のバカ親がいます。困ったもんです。
- Sakurai.Catshop
from fftogo
@RickCogley I agree you. There are a huge variety of Baka-Oya like just be lughed to serious for children's life or future.
- Sakurai.Catshop
from fftogo
@Sakurai.Catshop そうですね。この間育児2人を車の中に閉じこめて死なせたやつらいるし。ったく。
- Rick Cogley
Many say the same thing about his old man. :)
- Snow Vandemore
First there was El Scoble, now there is Scoblito.
- Slappy Line
When Robert does an experiment, it isn't just an attention getter or a publicity stunt. The questions he asks and experiments he does are backed by a thought process and a desired result set, an then he shares the results with everyone on his bog or ff and entices discussion that everyone learns from. Awesome stuff, he really is "Passionate about the Internet"
- Erik Boles
from iPhone
Plus, what's really going on here is groups will soon be used to make searches. So, having "secret" Twitter accounts with different groups will let you build searches no one else will have. FriendFeed already has this and it's INVALUABLE.
- Robert Scoble
You are right Robert, it has no value. Hoarding searches is anti-internet.
- Todd Hoff
Robert, instead of creating secret groups why not cut back your current groups to a manageable number? I recently cut back the number of people I follow on Twitter from over 2000 to under 400 and have found it be a lot more useful.
- Brett Nordquist
The same thing could be done on Facebook or Friendfeed. Why not start with the right sized group from the start or cull it back to where it makes sense for you?
- Brett Nordquist
The big win of grouping and multiple followed's (grouping makes following thousands useful I think) is that it allows you to listen (Reverse asynchronous communication). If you only talk and never listen you have become a 140 character newspaper. Are YOU RAC'd?!
- Erik Boles
from iPhone
Brett: because these systems suck. If you have followers and you want them to be able to DM you you must follow them back.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Good point. They can still reach you with an @. And I thought you disliked DMs? :-)
- Brett Nordquist
Todd: I'd love to be able to share the search results filtered by my groups. I've spent a lot of time picking some of my groups and they are bringing me huge value.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry, some things, like news tips, need to be private so @ doesn't work. I hate DMs, but I've given up because people like using them. On FriendFeed DMs are actually pretty darn nice.
- Robert Scoble
I'd like to have a local group of followers whom I can ask about doctor recommendations, best place to buy tires or find a piano teacher for my kids. I haven't figured out how to do that yet. I do know that I'm using Twitter, FF and FB for searches I would have used Google for even a year ago. When I bought an iPhone I just asked my followers which apps I should look at first. Much more valuable than searching Google or Bing. At least for me.
- Brett Nordquist
To curate exclusive groups for the express purpose of walling off information goes way beyond the careful selection of groups to monitor.
- Todd Hoff
Do you mean individual messages to them or followers, etc.? I probably do more individual messaging on FB than Twitter or here.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Bob, I was thinking back and forth either in @ or DM.
- Brett Nordquist
Robert, it sounds like maybe I'm spending too much time on Twitter and not enough on Friendfeed if that's the case.
- Brett Nordquist
I tried to add this photo to the Toyota Prius page. I couldn't. I tried to make a connection. It said "too many connections." (more, keep reading...)
- Robert Scoble
And people wonder why Twitter is more interesting to businesses? Other than fail whales, it's a lot easier to just say "I love my Toyota Prius" there and add my two cents onto a brand. On Facebook? It's a pain in the ass and then everything looks very commercial.
- Robert Scoble
By the way, that's my new 2010 Toyota Prius sitting in front of Facebook's new headquarters.
- Robert Scoble
In an interview that will be aired on June 11 as part of http://www.building43.com Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook's CEO, tells me that he's trying to guide Facebook into letting people have conversations about their favorite businesses. So far I have found it wanting.
- Robert Scoble
I had a similar conversation in a comment thread on someone's status in Facebook tonight. I would like to it, but I don't think you could see it.
- Jackson Miller
Like the white. But man, it looks just like a Civic.
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: except it gets better gas mileage than the Civic.
- Robert Scoble
Brett: and it has cooler geek toys inside.
- Robert Scoble
it's pretty obvious... facebook has to beg for businesses to get involved... twitter couldn't stop the floodgates of businesses signing up if they wanted to
- Travis Kalanick
Yes, and I think yours is better looking than the new Civic or Insight.
- Brett Nordquist
Jesse: that's the thing. I can't add anything to that page's wall for some reason. Let me try again and see if I'm just messing it up.
- Robert Scoble
Robert Facebook does have server issues fairly regularly. They're a lot more intermittent compared to Twitter's though. I've found Facebook to be a bit slow at times, too.
- Jesse Stay
Yeah, still says "Sorry, you cannot create any more connections." Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
But the good news is I see you got the scobleizer vanity URL. I can't even get one of those.
- Jesse Stay
There's also not as good a search platform to find when people post statuses. Even though twitter search isn't reliable it's better than Facebook's.
- Aaron Hood
from BuddyFeed
BTW, I just posted something and it came up. (I was the first fan post oddly - another fail, this one on the part of Toyota)
- Jesse Stay
Robert: your discussion just made me think maybe we should have a FriendFeed "Photos" section on our private page, so we could store groups of images exactly like in Facebook.
- Nir Ben Yona
I really really want to use Facebook for business - but its so horrible!! I just wanted to create a page with a few apps and I really struggled. They have horrible UI and the concepts make no sense.
- Anthony Feint
Love the new Prius, are you worried that White will show all of the dirt as you dart so quickly from place-to-place?
- Joan Lockwood
Joan: the white isn't quite white, it has a sparkle to it, but I'm not too worried about it showing dirt. I had a black car before and it showed EVERYTHING. Sanat: I told Zuckerberg today that I think Google is his biggest competition. He didn't argue and praised Wave.
- Robert Scoble
Holy cow! Do you have to pull those poor souls (Facebook and Twitter) just to show off you Prius?? I think you should. LOL. Scoble style FTW!
- Toni @ NavinoT
Twitter may be more interesting for businesses but facebook is more interesting as a viable business. Twitter has zero ad income that I can see, whereas facebook does earn some profit, just received $200 million in cash, and Scoble's Prius has.a new parking spot.
- Garin Kilpatrick
is this the new version of the Prius? I think the one they sell in Finland is still the old model...this looks better.
- Davide D'Incau
"Why Facebook is not as interesting as the new Prius" - new title. :-D Seriously, if Facebook wants users to have convos about busines, It'll be a tough time morphing that way. Users that want that already have services (Twitter, for one) to do this...they might have to interlink the service capabilities, not unlike FF. Once they do that, I think they'd have to add a value to that capability to make it worth people's while to use it. Otherwise, it'll remain the poke-ridden high-school/college student world.
- Adam Pilbeam
I just ran into something somewhat related this morning about the "closedness" of facebook. I couldn't share my fiance's pictures of our new puppies without manually copying them one by one and posting them on friendfeed.
- Mark Essel
I cannot wait to get an iPhone so that I can post photos all the time! I'm waiting until the next version comes out in July. At that time, I'll need to know the best ap for posting photos...would like to not have a new one and just use my Flickr.
- Hummie
Hummie, just take a photo on the iPhone and mail it to share@friendfeed.com from your registered email address... Works like a charm :)
- Ross Miller
Ross, when I do that, where does it get hosted? I would want to delete it later. I am going to hold out and get the new iPhone video...I hope...hope it doesn't cost too much...any ideas on cost?
- Hummie
So when I get this :"Sorry, you cannot create any more connections." it's a bug or it's because I can't be a fan of more than 15 pages?
- Kaysha
Someone should create a software product that partitions your drive automatically - magically. You could call it PartitionMagic. Good idea?
- Travis Murdock
Guru, there's reportedly a Snow Leopard banner hanging in Moscone in plain view...which likely wouldn't be there unless there was *some* update :)
- AllisonWagda
If it was Banana Computers we'd just get more phallic jokes.
- Dean Clark
Will they announce the new Iphone tomorrow? I'm ready to make the switch. I'm just hesitant about AT&T, like when Robert called in on the Gilmor Gang take 2 from his car the quality sounded terrible.
- Stephen Pickering
Dickson: it's a meme I've been on since 1977 when my dad brought home an Apple II and Hyde Jr. High let me help unbox its first Apple II.
- Robert Scoble
Occasionally I use my iPhone to make phone calls.
- Brett Nordquist
Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers
- Khaled A
The only thing about the camera in the front is how do you see what you are taking a photo of?
- Stephen Pickering
Brett, what is the call quality like? I've been on CDMA my whole cell phone life, well except for the analog years
- Stephen Pickering
Tyler: you're right, 50 "Apples" is too many. I should have only put 43 here. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I wonder if they will make a Touch with ear and mouthpiece so that with a MiFi card you could have an Iphone on the Verizon or Sprint network
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: The quality seems OK. I was with Sprint and Verizon the past 8 years. I like the iPhone for the apps and it's like having a mini-computer with me at all times. The few calls I make sound OK but not wonderful.
- Brett Nordquist
Would love to see them make iTunes allow more than 5 computers authorization
- Patrick
from twhirl
Is Friendfeed where you guys hang out when Twitter is slow? More action here tonigh!
- Brett Nordquist
+1 patrick, yeah ive had to clear all authorized computers more than once because of that
- Tyler Gillies
brett -- when isn't twitter slow? ;)
- Tyler Gillies
Thanks Brett, that's what I thought. Btw Twitter is ALWAYS slow, always has been even when there was no one on it
- Stephen Pickering
I bought two iPhones in March so I won't be upgrading for a while. I got my spouse one wondering if she'd use it. And now there's no way I could pry it out of her hands. She's taken to it like I would have never imagined. She's into the simple games, but she LOVES it.
- Brett Nordquist
one way I am hoping a great, revolutionary new iphone, so that I can admire it. OTOH I am hoping my iphone 3g is not obsolete tomorrow...
- Alpay Erturkmen
By the way, both Mike Arrington and my iPhones have tons of cracks on the screen in a very similar pattern. I wonder what that means?
- Robert Scoble
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- Yuvi
Yuvi: Apple's always been that way yet I keep going to the Apple store and handing over my cash.
- Robert Scoble
I had this problem when I ran a internet retailer out of my house. I'd get orders from England and such but the tarriff would be as much or more than the order
- Stephen Pickering
Also, an iPhone even with a contract is INR 32,000 - which is around 700$. That sucks.
- Yuvi
Stephen: NO. I'd gladly fork over 200$, even 300$ for an iPhone, even with a contract! BUT NO SIR, YOU ARE NOT GETTING ONE! iPhones are for the RIIIICCH!
- Yuvi
Yeah but you know how much our monthly service is here? $120 per month
- Stephen Pickering
Tomorrow is gonna be amazing...just wait and see. I've already said too much ;)
- Andru Edwards
Andru: you suck. Now send me a DM about what's coming in the morning.
- Robert Scoble
In Russia they pay about $12 per month for cell phone service and yet one of the companies I'm invested in Vimpel makes as good or better margins than US carriers. How is that?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: So basically you're getting ripped off by the Telcos, while we're getting ripped off by Apple :) I spend about 6$ a month, for about 30 hours of talktime and 750 free outgoing messages a day :)
- Yuvi
Yeah, that's my point, and yet I bet the carriers in India make the same amount of money as ours
- Stephen Pickering
Just seen a post by Leo Laporte, went something like; Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre - - - - - - Just kidding, we all love Leo!! :)
- Jim Connolly
Tyler, actually more like $8 USD, and as Yuvi just said in India he only pays 6 USD!
- Stephen Pickering
tech news-- the post i saw had more cuss words in it ;)
- Tyler Gillies
Why is service in the US so much more expensive, the real estate for towers?
- Stephen Pickering
stephen -- because they know we'll pay
- Tyler Gillies
And I'm kinda 'higher end' :P A few of my friends spend about 1-2$ a month, and still get those free texts :)
- Yuvi
i actually didn't think 120 a month was very high heh. now im shocked
- Tyler Gillies
Cell phone service used to be very costly - around 20 bucks a minute (that'd be 50 cents) when it first came on in - ten years ago. Then Reliance happened, everyone got a mobile :)
- Yuvi
I only found this out when I invested in a Russian carrier
- Stephen Pickering
If I could avoid iTunes (which I despise), and were I able to afford multiple mobile contracts, I might consider an iPhone. But damn, I just want the thing to show up as mass storage. And I want a file browser.
- Christopher A Carr
Now, for 3$ a month, I can call other Vodafone numbers for 10paise (that'd be, 0.20 cents NOT 20 cents), and other numbers for 49paise (that's around 1 cent). Not bad at all :)
- Yuvi
Let's hope for the release of Snow Leopard and Apple OS 3.0!
- Peter Kruit
So, how much do americans pay for mobile service?
- Yuvi
How much is 1 rupee worth. I just watched Slumdog
- Stephen Pickering
Yuvi: this is why Android is so interesting. I think long term that Android is going to be how most people get a cell phone with the power of an iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble: You know when Android would reach critical mass? When the cheap knockoff Chinese mobile makers embrace it.
- Yuvi
All the time because its my only phone. But my plan only allows 900 minutes, but you get free weekends and after work hours. I think I average 1000 minutes a month
- Stephen Pickering
Yuvi: I hear there are 12 Android phones shipping this year. It's only a matter of time.
- Robert Scoble
I'm sure the BigInJapan folks would appreciate a camera that will work for their barcode app.
- Christopher A Carr
hope the new iphone has a macro lens
- Tyler Gillies
Christopher: did you see the Android phones that were handed out at Google's I/O conference? They are very nice. I think they passed Nokia and Microsoft with that effort and have Palm and Apple in sight.
- Robert Scoble
The "magic," yes, I did. It's a much more attractive handset than the G1, which is what Android needs at this point.
- Christopher A Carr
I wonder what Bono will do to McNamee if the Palm thing doesn't work out
- Stephen Pickering
Christopher: I'm not sure! A Chinese phone with a very big screen sells for around 90-100$. The only reason they're not as popular as Sony Ericsson and Nokia is the shitty software on them. If they have Android, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. So would millions of people here.
- Yuvi
Yuvi: since Android is open source and free to put on phones I expect the Chinese will catch on within months. Especially since Android is getting better and better and selling better and better too.
- Robert Scoble
Yuvi: Lenovo has an Android-running handset, for the Chinese market, coming out soon. Not sure it's all that cheap, though...
- Christopher A Carr
Scoble,Yuvi: Chinese sets which come to India are without IMEI number which means, they are ILLEGAL
- Manish Sinha
Not Lenovo. Nameless factories that churn out mobiles, Christopher. Some have pirated copies of WiMo, and most have some shitty homemade OS.
- Yuvi
@Manish: A friend of mine just bought one two weeks ago. My uncle uses one. Pop on any train, and you'll find a lot of people using these. I'm not too sure about illegality - I think they might've now gotten IMEI numbers.
- Yuvi
Yuvi: As Robert said, it's a free mobile OS. China doesn't lack for Linux hackers...I'm sure Android-running cheapies will be common in the near future.
- Christopher A Carr
Also, do cheap Chinese knockoffs appear in the US much?
- Yuvi
Yuvi: Some of my friends too use it. Indian Govt has asked all Telecom Operator to block mobiles without IMEI number but the telecos are reluctant. I large number of people still do use phones without IMEI number, so telecos will lose a lot of customers.
- Manish Sinha
I would like a really high-spec Android-running device. Something with a higher res screen, real camera, etc...talking higher-end hardware than, say, and iPhone.
- Christopher A Carr
Also, an iPhone or Pre would be *very* vulnerable to theft. Some jackass stole my SE phone a week ago, an iPhone or Pre would be much more valuble targets!
- Yuvi
If someone steals my G1, and is stupid enough not to turn it off, I can track it.
- Christopher A Carr
yuvi -- my iphone never leaves my body and i wear pants with deep pockets on purpose ;)
- Tyler Gillies
So Robert, will you be going down to the Apple store this time in case something is released?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: nope. Although I have my Prius all ready. Heh.
- Robert Scoble
i want safari4linux from Apple. Please, Robert say them "the penguin wants apple very much!"
- Hüseyin Mert
Mert: Fat chance :) They won't even release a non-sucky passable iTunes for Windows...
- Yuvi
Huseyin: You want a Linux version of Safari? Why, when Chrome is in the works?
- Christopher A Carr
Robert, same here - I think I'll just be ready to dart if it looks like something's going to sell worth getting. It sure would be nice if the Apple stores could have custom feeds straight from Apple during the Keynotes. I think they'd get a lot more business around that time if they did.
- Jesse Stay
An interesting thing about Safari4 beta for Windows is that it looks Windows-native -- wonder if that's in the works for iTunes for Windows at some point...
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher: have you tried official release or chromium. Both sucks. So, why apple ignore linux? this would be the question.
- Hüseyin Mert
Same reason almost every other corp. in the world ignores Linux (on the desktop)
- Yuvi
They are in development stages and are not nearly ready to be primary browsers. Chrome for Windows is much better than Safari 4 for Windows.
- Christopher A Carr
linux on the desktop is just lame. server cool. desktop fail. end of story
- Tyler Gillies
+1 Tyler. And I'm sayin that from an Ubuntu box
- Yuvi
If you're using Ubuntu, you ought to try Linux Mint...a much more polished distro UI-wise, built from Ubuntu.
- Christopher A Carr
mint isn't"built" from ubuntu. it IS ubuntu
- Tyler Gillies
When is Safari going to have separate processes per tab?
- Christopher A Carr
and its not the "polish" that makes it fail. its the design, it was created as a server OS
- Tyler Gillies
That's becoming less and less the case, Tyler. Have you tried the latest Mint?
- Christopher A Carr
Yeah, that was my point, Tyler. At any rate, let's not risk touching off a silly OS fight. Until recently, I was tri-booting Mint7, OS 10.5.x, and Win7, on my netbook.
- Christopher A Carr
Indeed. Ended up with a Mint7/Win7 dual boot. OSX's UI isn't great on the little screen. Ran just fine, though.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher I downloaded Windows 7 on a Sun Virtual Box. Is there anyway I can make it fill up the whole screen or can I only do that with boot camp?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen, first of all, you're not seeing all the Win7 prettiness without hardware acceleration. And yes, you should be able to go full screen with VB.
- Christopher A Carr
isn't virtualbox a piece of software?
- Tyler Gillies
Yes, tyler, for installing OSes in virtual machines.
- Christopher A Carr
Yeah, I haven't played with it because it just sits there in its little box. No fun. But Leo Laporte was saying that Virtual had come so far that there was hardly any difference
- Stephen Pickering
It runs nice in a VM, but, yeah, to really try it out, you should consider installing it on real hardware.
- Christopher A Carr
i installed windows xp in virtualbox from linux on a gateway because that was the only way i could get the drivers to work without the oem install cd
- Tyler Gillies
I had Vista for a while on this Imac, but then it stopped working because it was a 350 dollar Home edition I bought for my Parents and licensed for only one machine! Oh that made me so mad
- Stephen Pickering
I mean Vista Boot camped until it wouldn't let me log in anymore
- Stephen Pickering
And yes, it was beautiful, so I can imagine what Win 7 woudl look like, now I'm drooling, must boot camp. Think I'll do that now, as it looks like no sleep tonight
- Stephen Pickering
Virtual Box has a "seamless mode," which lets you launch windows apps seemingly in Linux - sort of hides the guest OS. I would stick the XP bar on the side of my Linux desktop...elicited lots of "what the fucks?" **edit** This was with Linux as the host and XP as the guest, which works better than the other way around.
- Christopher A Carr
If you've ever watched something like a football game via an uncompressed, over-the-air HD signal, it's even a little better than that...
- Christopher A Carr
apple is really getting uncreative with their naming schemes. leopard to snow leopard?
- Tyler Gillies
Apple seems to think that we are all going to have 100MPBS down connections and 20 TBs of storage sometime in the very near future. So don't hold your breath, Sebastiaan.
- Christopher A Carr
here in the netherlands, they don't even sell movies yet or tv shows, or you can't rent movies either... so that sux, no blu ray support.. As far as i know, macs with vlc or perian can play ts mpeg streams.... thats not the issue
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Tyler, bandwidth and storage is the issue. A physical medium like Blue Ray disc solves those problems.
- Christopher A Carr
I've 7 mbps. There are places where one can get a residential 100mpbs connection. Tokyo, for instance. Verizon is doing fiber to the residence in some parts of the US, with 50mbps connections available, I think.
- Christopher A Carr
Watching a YouTube vid goes like this - click on play, click on pause, wait for it to download (at approximately 1s/s, so for a 8 min vid, I'd have to wait 8 mins), then watch :(
- Yuvi
Ah, that's right... us damn self-centered Americans. ;) Sorry
- Christopher A Carr
Pandora's built from scratch, fancy database is tough to beat.
- Christopher A Carr
Yuvi: What's the mobile network speed situation there?
- Christopher A Carr
Well, there're two new providers offering 1.5mbps
- Yuvi
In all fairness, there are 16Mbps connections available for Residential users now in India. The problem is they are fixed data limit (20 GB) and fairly expensive (~$60/mo). And 3G EVDO Data Cards with 3.1 Mbps are available as well but again, expensive ~$13/mo for 1GB, ~$25/mo for 10 GB.
- Parth Awasthi
250GB per month at a monthly price? I was earlier at 256Kbps to 2Mbps 1GB/monthly cap at $5/month. Now shifted to 256Kbps constant uncapped at $15/month.
- Manish Sinha
Yuvi: Airtel is providing 16MBps for home, but it was a joke. 20GB cap on 16Mbps line is a joke. Even if you bit mistake hit download and it gets download before you can cancel, then you have wasted a lot from your allowed cake.
- Manish Sinha
Parth: Those 3.1Mbps data cards is a joke. I never got more than 350Kbps ever. To add insult to injury TataIndicom projected in their ads... "3.1Mbps data cards 10GB unlimited"...WTF is "10GB unlimited"???
- Manish Sinha
Manish, the speeds one gets on EVDO are very highly correlated to the signal strength. I have used BSNL EVDO and I consistently got upwards of 1Mbps.
- Parth Awasthi
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- Ronald
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
from PeopleBrowsr
1. Apple did better than expected in current quarter, so they wanted to get the bad news out of the way now. That way the stock will take the hit for Jobs being gone, then go up when they announce great financial results. Making it clear to everyone that the company will go on strongly without Jobs.
- Robert Scoble
He's sick and is going to take time off for treatment, and it can't wait?
- Ken Sheppardson
2. Someone threatened to leak the news this week anyway.
- Robert Scoble
But I don't know, why didn't they just hold the bad news until the financials came out? If the financials are bad, do you think they would have just blasted both bits of bad news out together?
- Robert Scoble
Ken: he could have disappeared for a week without anyone noticing. So that's not it.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe he's just not well. I know from family experience that this can (and should) override anything. Anyone suddenly feels as human and mortal as the next guy when given a really shitty piece of news.
- Steven Livingstone-Pérez
They could've released the news next Tuesday and buried the lead with the inauguration and all.
- Mark Trapp
Wouldn't it be considered a material fact they'd have to disclose in their earnings report, if was already planned? Perhaps earning are worse than expected, and they don't want a double whammy. I think one can make up all sorts of scenarios.
- Ken Sheppardson
i suspect #2 is closest to the truth. doctors, nurses, folks at work. could be he had an episode in public somewhere...
- MikeAmundsen
What financials are you talking about? The Proxy just came out a few days ago
- Matt Bennett
Robert: Why don't you just go back to the yogurt shop and ask?
- Ken Sheppardson
Probably a requirement under securities laws: timely disclosure of something material that might affect the share price. The CEO's temporary incapacity sure is something material.
- Neville Hobson
People have been saying he was sick like this for a while. Not sure if we would have believed a "leak" regardless. Right now i'm more in shock of Steve's letter last week. Either it was a lie or he got some bad news really suddenly. Regardless, have to face the future.
- David Bisset (sn)
I do think that Apple just released that because people over there knows that Steve needs some rest, the guy is sick and he needs to take care of himself, and then maybe after he is okay he would look after the company's business once again and I think your first idea might be the right one.
- Ahmed
I hope he's better and ready to by next years CES!
- Brett Nordquist
I think he's trying to be more open with his employees and customers. I think this is very representative of the nature of our 2.0 world. Knowledge of everything can be found so it's best not to lie and hide behind a mask of supposed truths. Best to just be honest!
- Dane Deasy
Brett: me too! Wishing him all the best.
- Robert Scoble
Dane: I don't think this is Steve being more open. Just read his message. Just as cryptic, only said what it needed to. Steve Jobs *IS* the Citizen Kane of Silicon Valley.
- David Bisset (sn)
btw - IMO, this is not going to get better (sorry to say). i suspect Jobs' condition is chronic and probably progressive. he's proly been putting off this kind of talk for quite some time. it could be a rough year for him and those close to him. and a bad sitch for the company, too. i really hope i'm wrong.
- MikeAmundsen
Option 2 seems to be the more plausible. Apple and Jobs have both been lying about this and attempting cover-ups for some time now.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Interesting that he'll be back in June--in time for announcing the next iPhone on stage?
- Ian Mikutel
There are no good ways to bring bad news. But openness is less bad than denial. Hold good thoughts for Steve's recovery.
- Michael Markman
Ian: that would make sense. Mess with the Palm Pre and Nokia N97 launches in June. Keep everyone slobbering over the next iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I think the 'June' return is just an arbitrary date which at this stage, could be either pessimistic or optimistic.
- Scot Mcphee
As accurate and truthful as Apple/Jobs have been about this topic... I doubt Jobs will be back at all.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I think that he wants media to finally treat Apple as a "grown up" company and he plan to do this with shock therapy :)
- Hubert Taler
I think he is gone for good. Goldman indicated that he spoke to senior technology person who spoke to Steve who felt Steve was "deluded about his condition". That sounds bad for steve.
- themick171
from twhirl
What the hell does a senior technology person know about medical issues, though?
- Victor Ganata
@ michael dee - is that the same Goldman (from CNBC) who insisted just recently that Gizmodo were talking bollocks when they said Jobs' health was in serious decline, and that Jobs' health was 'totally fine' ???
- Patrick Jordan
It's that delusion about our conditions that keep us sane.
- Todd Hoff
Victor: as much as a yogurt store clerk.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, I too am surprised this news was leaked prior to the financials...odd. There's something fishy about that for sure
- Susan Beebe
@scobleizer in corporate/ DowJones land bad news MUST be reported as soon as known. Anything less gets you into Enron territory.
- Bankwatch
I agree with Ken Sheppardson and Neville Hobson. Apple knew the information and were reponsible by releasing it in a timely manner.
- Ontario Emperor
Of course, deliberately witholding critical information to manipulate the stock price is somethign people woudl scream about if any other company did it.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
@bankwatch makes a good point. But if Apple/Jobs knew this before the MacWorld announcement, and if they did and still put out the cokamamy story about hormone levels, Apple still should get a cursory look over by the SEC.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Jobs is not coming back, ever. The news today was just a "baby step" to that end.
- oregon_tony
As a "grown up" company Apple will fail. Their primary tool is the faux elitism of their user base and the "cool" factor that lets them overcharge for minor hardware upgrades. As soon as they grow up (expand) that will fade.
- Soulhuntre
I'm sure many companies would like to fail as well as Apple has! Yes, their stuff is pricey, but its demonstrably superior. I guess if you don't value your time you can pretend to save money using XP, or the now obsolete Vista, and if you still haven't learned your lesson then go have fun with Windows 7...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
AAPL would have been crucified if they had waited. Mentioning the news now takes away the material disclosure & sharp stock sell off if the news would have been disclosed "next week". Waiting would have opened a mega can of worms in case anyone started selling their insider shares or stock plan shares. Now everyone gets the info at the same time to avoid the SEC trouble Apple had before although they passed the fire trials then.
- Roney Smith
yessir soulhuntre, Apple, number 103 in the Fortune 500, 8th most profitable tech company... sounds pretty grown up to most grown ups...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Soulhuntre... Apple has always wisely resisted the temptation to grow too quickly, or address the least common denominator mass market. There are riches in niches, and Apple mines its niches well.
- LogEx
re: Mark VandenBerg - thats my thought too, that the earlier hormone announcement may at least get some SEC review.
- Bankwatch
@indio - depends on how your using the term of course. @logical - I agree... as a niche product / firm Apple excels but they have been increasingly tryign to go mainstream (sometimes well, sometimes badly). It will be interesting to watch.
- Soulhuntre
Wow....Bottom line; YES that is a TON of time, but you wisely defended it as you're migrating your "content" here on FF, generating more buzz for your blog and engage way more people. I, of course, am biased cuz I need "intervention" too. I was going to launch a "blog" but found that FF became my blog for short term writing / sharing needs. I still plan to launch a blog in 2009, but am planning that out
- Susan Beebe
Ask him when he's taking up @guykawasaki on his absence from Twitter for a week bet
- Jesse Stay
I would like to see more of you doing short video responses via QIK than reading. Seeing you is much more interesting that reading, and it makes you much more "real". You can SAY more with an INFLECTION in your voice than a paragraph of words.
- Ari Burton
I think another gain would be the broadening range of topics you are able to cover in dynamic discussion versus a static (by comparison), drawn out blog. Twitter is to blogs what the Internet was to newspapers.
- Jim W
Hello, my name is Alan and I'm addicted to Twitter :-)
- Alan Kodzasov
I think you should do it all. Blog, tweet, and 'feed. What the split should be? I dunno.
- Eric Florenzano
your realtime funnel of friends is impressive
- Genaro Bardy
We have Scoble and YOU CAN'T HAVE HIM BACK! :P LOL
- Ari Burton
you're saying you chave 68000 people you can show potential sponsors. Did you ever ?
- Genaro Bardy
What are there 40,000 BOTS answering Scoble? LOL :)
- Ari Burton
Michael, you're funny. Genaro: I haven't been asked by my current sponsors yet, but they can look at all the people I'm interacting with on FriendFeed to get a good sense of who is here and on Twitter you can see all of my followers. Same on Facebook. So, sponsors generally have a pretty good idea of what kind of people I'll reach.
- Robert Scoble
Robert you are doing a fantastic job pioneering new apps and showing us all the way, keep going and ignore the criticism. You are practising being a Thought Leader without the need to blog too.
- Thomas Power
What you have done is balanced out your activity between Twitter, FriendFeed, Blogging, Videos, etc. Others who would prefer you stay siloed don't like that you've diversified. Why close the door on a significant audience, like one here, to maintain an old one?
- Louis Gray
What?!? You blogged your response? You're falling right into his hands.
- Christian Anderson
Robert and Michael, call me paranoid but I bet you guys both organized this rant & rave together to raise some valid questions about the changing nature of the social web. I think there's a place for focused writing of blogs but I can't help thinking Robert's experiment of jumping into the fray is both bold and worthwhile. It could easily be said that M's clinging to the old for reasons like thought leadership could possibly put him in a position of being obsolete very quickly. Love both of you!
- Lance Shields
I wanted to agree with this post but Ari's comments are making me laugh too much.
- james rock
Michael, I think Robert mainly gets input from his readers. That said, advice is also good for grown ups
- Alexandros Georgiadis
I like michael´s funny comments here. I never bothered reading anything else but the headlines from TC before but now I may take a closer look (get it, michael..? ;)
- Thomas Bøhm
This reminds me of the ladies who cried fowl when computers came along..."Noooo don't take my Smith-Corona away!"
- Susan Beebe
I don't have a Tech Crunch comment account so I am pasting this here. In response to Susan Beebe, Michael Arrington stated: "and the “conversation” is fine. But Robert’s brain is better used actually writing articles that I want to read. Watching people grunt back and forth is entertaining but hardly educational." My response: "Rude."
- Mona Nomura
If you were just a regular guy with a regular job OK, it may be a little much. But..you're a leader in this business and trying to keep us informed. Frankly, I'm a big fan, and feel like I would be missing out if you contributed less.
- Missionary Broadcasting
Thought Leader = Adopting Today What Others Will Be Doing Tomorrow = Robert Scoble
- Joe Lima
Mike makes good points and he does it out of respect for Robert. These are two of the hardest working guys I've come across. Mike sees the value he is building at TechCrunch and sees the value Robert is building for Twitted/FriendFeed. As far as I know, Robert doesn't get anything for that. I don't agree that Robert's time is not well spent, but can definitely see Mike's point.
- Christian Anderson
"S**gate" getting a mention here from Robert every time there´s talk of storage is better promotion than plain ads on his blog. They should be happy about that, and I´m sure pay him equally well for that.
- Thomas Bøhm
Yeah, I agree with Christian that M has good points and I think this debate is very good to consider. How do we spend our time? What is truly valuable? Is Robert poorer than he used to be? ;-)
- Lance Shields
Your audience is more qualified than any else... That's interesting. No Media can link to facebook / twitter / ff accounts to give insights about its audience ! That's Power my friend
- Genaro Bardy
Hey Robert! I hate to say this but I kinda agree with Michael on this one. I use to read you blog every day. I loved how insightful your post were. I could tell that you put a great deal of thought into your blog, and in turn, your blog provoked me to think. I like following you on friendfeed, but it is just not as thought-provoking. I have also started visiting your blog less because there is just not as much there.
- Craig Fogle
I think Robert's brand is portable enough that he can survive outside of his own domain. At the end of the day, it's about engaging people through whatever means possible, whether that's your blog or FriendFeed, Twitter etc. For what it's worth, I had never read Robert's blog before I used FriendFeed. In some respects there's probably an element of Michael using Robert's popularity to drive a bit of traffic his way. Looks like it worked too.
- Sam
Mike hasen’t noticed your videos, does that tell us more about Mike or your videos?
- paul mooney
How about spending time where it matters to you? Maybe Mike should spend less time worrying where others spend their time. It's your time, spend it where you want.
- Brett Nordquist
Your post a while back on *real* productivity, helped me a lot and I feel answers this already. Outside of your family what you want to do more than anything else is have lots of great conversations with people. FF enables you to do this more than your blog can. So by that standard you don't need an intervention - you're possibly the most productive person on the planet! :)
- Matthew J Hendrickse
How do I sign up for this rehab thing? seems like all the "cool" people are doing it.
- Bob Blunk
Honestly, I believe all these services should be merged somehow... Maybe if Friendfeed allowed for longer posts (although then it wouldn't be microblogging, but isn't Twitter for that?) people would start to move here. FF is a very young service yet: let's see how it expands and then we'll be able to choose between FF and traditional blogs.
- Jordi Soler
Honestly, I feel that half the time I spend on Friendfeed could be more productively spent elsewhere. It *is* addictive, and you don't want to miss out on anything, but I've spent hours there without much to show for it. On the other hand, there are times where it's sheer genius to have that much input.
- Glen Mistletoe
Once nanoblogging and picoblogging catch fire, this microblogging will seem tedious and time-consuming. Last Thursday, at 10 AM, I picoblogged an entire week of bloggage. Took about ten minutes.
- david beckwith
Wow David, that's maybe the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
- Geoffrey Hamilton
from twhirl
If you have news, don't brief bloggers or news people, write your own first-person blog post and put it on your corporate web site. Then when you're ready to tell the world, publish the post. That's when Mike and Marshall and Scoble will find out, along with everyone else. If they want to write about it, if they have something to add, great. If not, no big loss. No one needs 18 duplicate idiotic blog posts hanging on your announcement, or worse, hanging on the piece written by the asshole who broke the embargo. Embargoes are for ink-stained 20th century idiot loser throwbacks.
- Dave Winer
Dave: The problem is that some of the ones you cited won't write anything if they're not the first on it. No, I didn't meant Robert or Marshall. And that being said, I, for one, don't care at all about such a "loss"
- directeur
I had to put that placeholder comment there while I wrote the bit cause of the way FriendFeed works. Otherwise someone else would have gotten the first comment and that would have spoiled the layout. So what do you think? Are embargoes for losers and crybabies?
- Dave Winer
directeur: right. And that works for companies that care about Twitter, blog, Facebook, FriendFeed traffic. But what if you want to get onto Walt Mossberg's column in NYT? Then the game is different. Steve Jobs continually says "hell with bloggers" and gives out first iPhones to Mossberg and three other journalists.
- Robert Scoble
directeur, so? Who cares? It doesn't matter. Why do I need 18 identical articles to tell the story? You think that makes the product more successful? I don't. I think it's a way for PR people to tell their clients they're doing them some good in a statistical way, but it doesn't translate into more happy users. Pretty sure of that.
- Dave Winer
And by the way, they need to get over that. They should only write a piece when they have something to add. Regurgitating press releases *is* 20th Century journalism and is bullshit.
- Dave Winer
Please note: I totally agree with Dave and have been asking people to just Twitter their press announcements first. Then I can retweet them, and blog them and whatever.
- Robert Scoble
The real value is in the video anyway that I do after the news. Speaking of which, I have a fun video of Loic Le Meur giving Joi Ito a demo of Seesmic's new features. Be back in a few minutes with that.
- Robert Scoble
Dave and Robert: Tou're both right! What I meant is that old copywriting principle: You won't create a need, you won't change the consummer. You create a product that satisfies a consummer's need. And if your product is really worth attention, no matter if Mike speaks about it or not, it'll be known and used, be it at least by word-of-mouth
- directeur
Will Mossberg's opinion mean much 3 years from now? How about 5? Who cares if he likes the iPhone or whatever new Apple product Apple is peddling. Many people see right through this crap.
- Brett Nordquist
Exactly. I care much more if Brett Norquist likes it, because you're not a pompous airbag who's wined and dined by industry assholes and afraid that you might offend someone and not get invited to LeWeb or The Gillmor Gang or FOO Camp if you say the product is slow or buggy or pointless. We needed blogs because the press was too incestuous with the vendors and vice versa. So they recreated the system. BFD. It's still obsolete and a public nuisance.
- Dave Winer
Brett: many CEOs say that Mossberg isn't important to them anymore (Like.com's CEO even wrote a blog post saying that two years ago). In fact, a few CEOs tell me they got the most traffic to their pages from Twitter, not from any single blog. That's why I love Twitter and FriendFeed. No one is an "A lister" here. If I try getting out of control you just can leave me a comment saying I'm a pompous airbag who's wined and dined by industry assholes.
- Robert Scoble
directeur, you should read some of the Davenets I wrote in 1994 and 1995 and again in 1998 and 1999 and in 2003. You'll see we're just popping the same bubble over and over. Great.
- Dave Winer
Robert: Ha! You're right, but things are still to improve and you know what I mean ;)
- directeur
@Brett - nobody cares about Mossberg or even much about his opinion - they care about putting the product in front of his audience.
- Eddy Cole
Oh, by the way, today with Loic Le Meur I told him why I don't use Twhirl or Seesmic and how to get me back. I don't care if I get invited back to Le Web. And I made my own foocamp. Every day has been a foocamp in my life since getting kicked out of that four years ago. Funny enough I'm interviewing Tim O'Reilly on Friday. I might just tell him what I thought about getting kicked out.
- Robert Scoble
Dave, and so was the case of an old greek philosopher :)
- directeur
Oh, and Dave, I remember you showing me a few things and asking me not to blog about them until you had a chance to explain them first. So, even you have a use for embargos and NDAs.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, they're not the same IMHO. Was what I asked you an embargo? Don't think so... I just wanted an expert's opinion from a fellow ninja and some time :)
- directeur
directeur: they are a member of the same family. I guess you didn't ask me to not talk until tomorrow at 9 a.m., but you asked me not to tell anyone about what you're doing until you had a chance to work on it more. I think that's very fair, by the way, and I agree to those kinds of things all the time. I'm rarely in the news business lately anyway.
- Robert Scoble
Hey, we all break our own rules from time to time. That doesn't mean they aren't the RIGHT rules,right? :-) "Embargoes are for ink-stained 20th century idiot loser throwbacks." Here-here! What do PR firms do any more, but help you write that draft post if you don't have time or in-house resources and aggregate subscriptions to the 19th century newswires for slightly more affordable access?
- michael silverton
We need a definition of embargo. I'm too tired to write one but it involves briefing more than one person to try to create a surge of orchestrated press. I might have told you about something I wanted to do as a form of kibitzing, but not for the purpose of getting you to write about it. I would much rather follow the formula I put out at the beginning of this thread. Then if you screw it up (sorry but you usually do) at least people can read the official explanation of what the thing actually is.
- Dave Winer
Dave: that's because you never give me your own demo on video. That's what I usually do with new companies, so your point is incorrect. I would rather have a CEO explain what he's doing by showing it to me. Or, in the case of what Seesmic did today, showing it to someone else and letting me film (that'll be up in a few minutes).
- Robert Scoble
Dave, you read my mind. So many brands don't even have their own blogs. They could be doing exactly what TechCrunch is doing, to just as large an audience, with just their brand if they put some effort into it.
- Jesse Stay
Dave: that's OK, I'll always be among the first to link to your new stuff however you like to explain it.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: I don't know about "just as large an audience." Potentially as large, yes. More targeted and probably relevant, yes. We humans still have this herd behavior where we tend to anoint tribal clue leaders and then tune out all the rest. Often strikes me as an evolutionary hurdle.
- michael silverton
Dave: So maybe just add to your opening comment as optional step: create Viddler, Vimeo, BlipTV, BlogTV, Ustream, whatever; and make public at time of blog post. Seesmic stands alone for conversation; several others have great HD quality for one-time blasts. For additional video expertise: www.sukhjit.me and www.giannii.com among others. RS needs no introduction. :-)
- michael silverton
My comment when I bookmarked this on delicious: If you think you need to control press coverage, what you actually need to do is come up with a good product.
- Jordan Cole
As long as blogs keep moving more toward operating like MSM, then traditional things like embargos will exist for blogs as well as MSM.
- Lynne d Johnson
I'm finding it more difficult to determine who is on the take and who isn't. If Mossberg writes about Netbooks I'm skeptical because I don't know if there's some sweet deal for Walt. Maybe there isn't but I trust Dave's take on Netbooks because he spends his own money on them. When I worked for Microsoft we sent high end laptops to editors (like PC Mag) to review products like Office. But they could keep the laptop. How many bad reviews do you think were written on those laptops?
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: This doesn't get less ambiguous, moving forward, does it? :-)
- michael silverton
Lynne: I think that was Dave's original point, no? Save as draft. Push live when ready.
- michael silverton
I have some thoughts on this topic. If you're interested, just ping me so I can send you an NDA. Once you agree to it, I'm happy to offer some analysis. Thx.
- Kevin C. Tofel
Kevin: Please consider this comment as signed NDA. Fire away. :-)
- michael silverton
Sorry Michael. I mentioned my commentary to the kids at dinner in passing and it's all over Runescape now. I release you from said NDA. :)
- Kevin C. Tofel
Kevin: Oh, gee golly, really? Darn. Well, ooo-kay, let me know if we at The Gullible Agency LLC can be of any future service and Have A Nice Day. ;-)
- michael silverton
Found my answer but these are pretty Hidden features. Only found by accident, an average user will struggle with this right now.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Found the full screen with the tabs across the top for all networks, nice
- MedicalQuack
The world needs a screencast of PeopleBrowsr because a laptop's acreage is way too limited.
- Bernie Goldbach
Hi Barbara, where did you find the full screen with the tabs across the top? Was this on peoplebrowsr.com? Thanks a lot.
- SHHHE
Mark, to add more IDs, you can click on 'Add IDs' on the bottom of the page. Cheers!
- SHHHE
i can never get the thing to work, won't even log in... you think they started "promoing" or whatever a little early??
- Terry O'Fee
Terry how is it going now? Are you using FF3 or Safari 3.1? Thanks for your help.
- SHHHE
ff3 - to be honest ive never used safari.. ill give it another try, thanks..
- Terry O'Fee
I didn't think the picture of her looked bad at all. Two women were very upset they didn't airbrush her facial hair or her pores. Wow.
- Brett Nordquist
I haven't seen Twitter *anywhere* save two news articles. Other than that..on the internet. Every single person I work with I try to convince to use Twitter. They never heard of it. My family? Same thing. Friends that aren't of the geeky persuasion? Same thing. Twitter hasn't quite picked up yet.
- Candace
I've been terribly critical of Twitter. But I think it's breaking through to the mainstream -- and maturing as a platform.
- Chris Baskind
come on scoble. mainstream means USERS not press. twitter is far from that... yet. I don't see mass media's use of it any different than myspace and facebook before it. Media attention does not mean success. Go anywhere outside of the Valley and nobody knows what Twitter is. That's not mainstream.
- Patricia
I watched what's his name on CNN trying to explain Twitter just this morning.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Patricia: you and Candace really need to turn on CNN and watch for an hour. They have been talking about Twitter all day long. Also, I've seen it now discussed in hundreds of newspapers, magazines, and on more than three cable networks now. How much more does it need to "go mainstream?"
- Robert Scoble
Mainstream among the tech crowd. Ask your friend who's a teacher or dentist or attorney what Twitter is and wait for the blank stare.
- Brett Nordquist
it needs multiple millions of domestic users. until then, it represents under ONE percent of US internet users. not mainstream.
- Jeremy Toeman
Eric: I don't know, I don't watch those. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I work in entertainment, media and tech. I say, "are you on twitter?" majority say no. i love twitter, great example of the future of device agnostic communications and also how social networks will be communications/utility platforms in the future (or can be) BUT if 95% of the people i encounter have no idea what it is, it is not mainstream. It is nothing to get on the media -...
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- Patricia
I heard twitter mentioned on Foxnews, I was so excited.
- Colide81 (James)
But ask most people what Windows Vista is and you'll also get a blank stare.. and thats definitly supposed to be mainstream by now! or ask facebook users what chat is and half of them would probably say they didnt know you could do that.. and its at the bottom of the page lol!
- Thethirdeye.org
by the way, its okay to like twitter and root for it and it *not* be mainstream... mainstream doesn't mean "better".
- Jeremy Toeman
Mainstream compared to e-mail? Facebook? MySpace? AIM? Text messaging in general? I don't think Twitter is anywhere near 1% of the U.S. population. Based on leaked numbers, I'd put them closer to 1/10 of a percent.
- Mark Jaquith
from twhirl
My father told me about twitter when I was at my family reunion this past summer. If HE knows about it, it's most definitely mainstream.
- Prolific Programmer
@CandaceHolly Rick Sanchez, CNN presenter is on Twitter and says so on his show every few minutes.
- Prolific Programmer
You are both right in a way, twitter has reached the main stream media, but has only started to penetrate main street america, none of my family or nontech friend use it.
- Kim Landwehr
None, not one, zero of my non 'tech' friends has heard of (or mentioned to me at any rate), let alone uses Twitter. Of my real-world friends in technology, only two use it and neither of those is active. Facebook is where it is at for better or (more likely), worse. The situation may well be different in the US but that is my experience in the UK and Aus.
- mattpovey
Speak to Tom Webster, analyst at Edison Research. Twitter penetration is very minuscule outside of tech circles.
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
Matt, I thin it's pretty much the same in the US also. Whenever I mention Twitter to non-connected friends I almost always get a blank stare. But if I say SMS, then they know what that is.
- R. Alexander Spoerer
I don't think it has hit mainsteam - i don't have to explain to people what Facebook is but I sure do need when talking about twitter
- Anthony Feint
1,776 posts, 2 pages, 32 categories, 601 tags, and 928 comments for mine
- Stephen Pierzchala
over what kind of time period Stephen? and have you found your readership go up over that time period or where there 'jumps' that coincided with any number of posts written at that time? .. just curious more than anything
- Steven Hodson
Jeez, you're going to use up all of the free disk space in the cloud. Could you slow down a bit? ;-)
- Mark Dykeman
We can all hope to aspire to that with our own blogging passion.
- Adam Helweh
I'm only at 1,513 posts. Need to catch up!
- Louis Gray
Wow...you have been "kinda busy" Steven ...nice work!
- Susan Beebe
the part I like best is the number of comments
- Steven Hodson
not a single one Charlie ... I actually look forward to each and every day wonder what things will get my juices going (and at my age that's a great thing :) )
- Steven Hodson
I REALLY do like the new look of WinExtra ... Nice Job
- Charlie Anzman
i remember when i passed 1,000 posts - it was a bittersweet moment :)
- Morgan
The ratio of posts to comments is great - over 2 per post!
- Allen Stern
You have 2,617 posts, 6 pages, contained within 4 categories and 810 tags. But then, I've been at it longer. Mine doesn't list comments. Hmmm. Must need to upgrade.
- Chris Brogan
Keep it real Steve. Nice to see you have the staying power. It's a real inspiration.
- Larry Kless
how has publishing frequently affected your traffic?
- Andrew Warner
Steven posting of his stats is getting to to look at my blog stats over the last year. Blog post to follow. Remember the LONG TAIL!
- Stephen Pierzchala
I've been using Chrome 95% of my internets browsing time since it came out.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I don't know about Chrome. I only know that it's open source and Google didn't launch it for Linux. Sorry but that's a FAIL.
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
@Apo Well, sorry but there are a TON of people out there who don't use Linux. They are working on a Linux version, things take time. You should take some time to stop being an ass.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
So Mathew I don't think I'm beeing an ass. I just express my opinion. I know we who use linux are not so many and can't be compared to ppl who are using Windows. My point was that Chrome is open source and didn't was available on linux from the start. I appreciate Google ppl they do a very good work And even if Chrome was Linux-available I wouldn't have been using it. I would stick to FF. I don't want to criticize any1.
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
I mainly use it for apps that have Google Gears behind them (Gmail, Reader, Remember The Milk) and Firefox3 for most everything else, as Chrome doesn't have the functionality that I need yet.
- RAD Moose
@Apo I understand what you are saying, but the way you said it...er typed it just made it seem very ass-ish.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
You are right, Chrome has everything I need, it is faster, much, much easier.
- Ralph Poole
Is FF3 still Crashing a Lot?? Mine Crashes 4 or 5 times a Day which is Ridiculous*
- Billy Warhol
perfectly happy with firefox on my mac so even when available no plans to switch, will try it though
- Deepak Singh
What do you love about it other than it's new? It has zero addins and fewer features. Sure it's fast, but is that enough?
- Andrew Warner
Susan, same here (only today). Loved Chrome, but come on, without the plugins it's like having a light version of the web.
- Orli Yakuel
i'm almost exclusively switched over- only back to firefox for e-commerce sites that can't handle it yet
- Kevin
from twhirl
It doesn't work on a Mac and like RAD I use a lot of FF3 add-ons with Google Gears, so no Mac version, no Chrome here.
- Sally Church
I'm already recommending it to (EDIT: PC) clients in need of an alternate browser. Non techies are amazed at the speed.
- Aaron Krug
I love the speed of Chrome, pitty there is no PPC version yet. Looking forward to extensions too.
- Ben Novakovic
from twhirl
I've been playing with Opera again and find that it has better preformance than Chrome. So does Kazehakase. Yet I always end up going back to Firefox for the extensions.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
BillyW, FF3 isn't crashing for me much anymore, maybe 1-2x/week now, though I've tried to cut back on having >20 tabs open (add-on: Read It Later v helpful). Seems that a few weeks back when it was crashing/hanging regularly, I typically had 30+ tabs open (admittedly a bad habit anyway). Good luck.
- Casey
@Casey: I regularlly have over 30 tabs open at a time in Firefox. Konqueror is the only browser that has problems with more tabs that I use regullarly (its my default browser because it loads instantly when I may not have anything else open, which is great on my P4 desktop). IE7 generally does too.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
I'm using Chrome and Firefox split half and half. Chrome is super fast, clean and love the tab handling. But I miss the mouse gestures in Firefox and a few of the plugins.
- Brett Nordquist
every so often embedded videos stop playing in Chrome and Firefox (but they do in IE). Any idea how to fix that?
- Blake N. Cooper
I have installed Chrome, but I can't really use it until it supports some of my Firefox plugins.
- Bryan Clark
I have been loving Chrome, but I also can't wait to see a new build to address some security concerns brought up. For a first beta release though I thought it made a good showing
- Bryan
FF3 still set as my default browser, but I agree with @Bryan - Chrome's a good showing for an early beta - better than some browsers that have been out of beta for years.
- Ian May
I am using Chrome most of the time these days. It is much faster when compared with Firefox, but I really miss the Addons
- Sudar
Chrome is my default browser now, but not at office its windows 2000 there. FF crahes many times for me, but I am missing some plugins.
- sirishkumar
How do you manage to get FF crashing? I use it as my default browser and have lots of tabs open most of the time, about 15 average but lots of times more than that, and it barely crash on my a couple of times with the old version and FF3 has never crashed on me since the realise. And yes I make it work. It has problems when there is lots of flash or heavy pdf, in that case you just need...
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- Cibeles
from twhirl
I use Chrome on my older Windows computer just because of the very impressive performance. Once my MBP is back from repair, it is back to Safari (ugh) and Firefox.
- Daniel Jurczak
Ha, so that's what I read about FF command line... I like it, but he... I like command lines...
- Egon Willighagen
@brandon: yes - activites (i said smart tags before - oops). but i'm not sure they have the same 'angle.' seems like (since i've not tried Ubiquity) is user interface and that activities is a programming interface.
- MikeAmundsen
this is yubnub done right. heck someone can make a simple bridge to yubnub :). What will be "dangerous" about this Ubiquity is its viralness. People will immediately shares commands. Hopefully not worm and viruses.
- Toni @ NavinoT
Just installed Ubiquity and love it. I've not used IE for years and don't plan to.
- Brett Nordquist
I installed it last night and I just love it, go on Moz crew!!!
- Daniele Russolillo
IE8 makes all the websites I visit look like complete crap. If they're asking developers to use tags in their HTML so that IE8 will think it's IE7, that can't be a good sign.
- Aaron Myers
I've been using YubNub and Slickrun for many months -- I'm not sure yet that Mozilla Ubiquity is a significant step forward.
- Sean McBride
What Mozilla's Ubiquity ? Any link to share?
- Arjun
UbiQ blows my mind away. Have been playing around with it all day. Just hoping that they imprve usability in the coming versions. Tweeting from UbiQ is a breeze, I'm guessing this is going to increase load on Twitter APIs like crazy!
- Vinodh Nandakumar
I installed Ubiquity late last night, and yes, it does have the WOW factor for me as well. I want to see how easy it is to create commands, after viewing the vid. Nice work.
- Henry Burger
from twhirl
It sounds great for power users. I was also imagining a sidebar type app that would be suggesting things to do with stuff. Select an address and it would pop up a map and give you the option to email it. This way no need for new users to know text commands or have to think what might be the word to use.
- John Cooper
Sidebar is a great idea...also "chaining" commands. What if i want to tinyurl something (or two) and insert into a twit (or email..). Also if you don't use gmail (gasp), launching the OS native URL handlers like mailto:.
- Richard Goodwin
Ubiquity looks cool, but is very similar to what can be done with Quicksilver on Mac.
- Martin Añazco
if you like ubiquity you'll be sure to love http://www.humanized.com/enso that's Aza Raskin's work before he joined mozilla, so you can see where the inspiration comes from :)
- Chris Jones
watching the video for ubiquity @ mozilla labs now .... whoa
- John Blanton
I am yet to try out Ubiquity yet but your WOW has convinced me to check it out later ha!
- Joe Dawson
Where do these smart people come from. Very cool.
- Kenley Neufeld
this changes the way I can work... but what motivates me to change this way.
- Stewart Rogers
Anybody found a FF Ubiquity command to subscribe to yet?
- Grey Drane
Yeah I love ubiquity too! Wonder what 1.0 will be like! :D
- JegerPhil - Phil
If you're running Ubiquity on Linux, I would advise NOT setting the hotkey to SHIFT+SPACE. Esp. if you're fond of capitalisation...
- wyclif
@Martin Añazco ya, it reminds me of Quicksilver and the command-line, too. I really love it!!!! It creates an awesome workflow that leads to inspired power browsing.
- barce
Thanks to your blog post about Ubiquity I began using it and can see how it will enhance my web experience
- Joshua Oehler