I think going out of our way to not buy their product is in order...
- Thomas
I support their decision. There are lots of good quality candidates with more credentials than Martin. I'm sorry, I like the guy, but just because he has a powerful internet posse at Revision 3 does not mean he deserves the job. There are lots of great candidates out there--some without a job--that don't have the extra pull of a podcast community to support them. I know I'm in the minority, but I had to say it.
- Fleagle
Unfortunately Fleagle, they don't specify that they're looking for a candidate without "the extra pull of a podcast community to support them." On the contrary, they WANT someone as connected as Martin to prop up their activities in the Web 2.0 community.
- Eric Geller
I wonder if the nature of his past works and the image that it portrayed onto him had anything to do with their choice. Would you, as a business owner, really want the host of such shows as infected, Web drifter, and Internet Superstar to be the spokes internet person for your company?
- Wizetux
And I'm not upset that he didn't get the job, but to not even be in the top 50?
- Thomas
Can we get a "Screw you!" at Murphy-Goode, Leo?
- Mike Nayyar
Eric, if all they want is someone with 'connections', then I guess they did miss the mark here. It's not my company, so I can only assume they have an idea what they want.
- Fleagle
Yes, i would have thought atleast martin would get in the top 50...
- Bryce Campbell
If the goal of this was to connect to users in the new media, I would've thought having a built in base would have been a plus for him...
- Thomas
Never mind the fact that he actually knows a bit about wine and can speak knowledgeably on the subject. Or the fact he has previous experience not only producing content but the technical side of it.
- Johnny
Fleagle: That *is* all they want. They have said that before. That's why we're both angry AND confused.
- Eric Geller
Pretty simple then I guess. If that's really all they wanted, then they dropped the ball here.
- Fleagle
Let the Bad PR spread across the wires, then who ever gets the job will really have their work cut out for them.
- Wizetux
They didn't just drop the ball, they let go of it while holding it over a cliff.
- Eric Geller
Looking at their rules for applying, the only thing I can think of at this point is that maybe they thought there would be an issue with the "irrevocable and perpetual right to use your name, likeness, appearance, voice, biographical information and video anywhere in the world, without your further consent" part.
- Thomas
I think they already failed at the Social meida
- Fee501st
Thomas: If you're saying that Murphy Goode had that thought, then I'm confused. It's their rule, why would they disqualify someone if that person applied knowing the rule?
- Eric Geller
Because he's well know (relatively), maybe they thought that clause would be an issue with him. Not saying it's really what caused it, though... http://www.areallygoodejob.com/finepri...
- Thomas
Thomas: I agree with you that Martin could have had that thought, but that's for him to decide. Murphy Goode shouldn't disqualify someone because they assume that their own rule will be a problem. They should let Martin take that into his own hands. (Which he did by applying anyway.)
- Eric Geller
Kevin Rose just tweeted about this - even more bad press for the winery...
- Thomas
I think maybe the biggest blunder on their part was of course posting the top 50. It would be different if they just announced the winner I think. That way, even though most probably would've disagreed, you'd have to respect a little bit that it was their decision to make. But not even having Martin in the top 50 is probably going to bite them in the arse in the coming days.
- Fleagle
I definitely agree on that point. If you put something to a vote and then have a top 50, make sure the top vote getters are on the list - even if you don't intend on picking them.
- Thomas
hmm. Anyone else see a comparison between the Iranian election and this selection process?
- Wizetux
Getting to be the #1 most popular video on the topic should have earned Martin a spot on the top 50 list. I'm not saying it should have gotten Martin the final job, either.
- Robert Scoble
Wizetux: I think they must have the same person who decided on Twitter's Suggested User List doing the judging. Really lame. Yes, it's the same thing as an Iranian Election. Exactly.
- Robert Scoble
Murphy-Goode are getting great exposure and all they have to do is give a valid point of view as to why he wasn't chosen. So...?
- Michael Turro
If you look at the digg comments, I'm not sure that's the exposure they were looking for... :)
- Thomas
I wonder if anybody at Murphy-Goode knows they screwed this up - they could spin this as the very reason they NEED a social media consultant.
- Michael Turro
Need to correct myself, actually they did have to name the top 50 since the top 10 will be pick from the top 50, still doesn't explain why Martin wasn't on it, guess he wasn't what they were looking for.
- Kim Landwehr
this reminds me of that election in iran
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Michael: that would be a great spin, but that would require having someone who understood what was going on and the time for that kind of spin is when a story is just getting going. I would just apologize and say "I don't know how we missed Martin." But then I would have made sure the guy with the #1 YouTube video would be on the list in the first place.
- Robert Scoble
True enough... number one is hard to "miss"
- Michael Turro
if their objective was to find someone best fit for the job, they didn't present the voting facilities in a representatively clear fashion. why bother creating a voting system? it implies that number one would be in the list.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
They should have given the top 50 vote getters an automatic bid and then augmented with 10 or so of their own choices that might not have made the top 50
- Michael Turro
apparently @areallygoodjob uses twitter to broadcast their thoughts. there's no interaction or @ replies. i have a feeling they may be elite-ist snobs.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Elitist snobs? In the wine industry?
- Michael Turro
kinda contrary for them to use social media in the first place, huh? freermor, their twitter says they use the web as their twitter client.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
There was a small mistake there wasn't there? did you spot it?
- Mark
what does Vay Ner Chuk have to say about this?
- Chris Pugh
Their fine print states "Murphy-Good retains the right to exclude candidates from the hiring process or terminate the successful candidate for any lawful reason", but if they were going to exclude him after the voting then they should have not even posted or accepted his video in the first place.
- Alan Hoskins
Alan: they should have explained their thinking. Personally I wouldn't have had a final 50. I would have only posted a final three. Then if he didn't make that list it would seem better. But that's after the play quarterbacking. Now they have a bit of a mess on their hands and they have saddled their new social media expert with a mess that won't go away.
- Robert Scoble
I think we're probably seeing a classic case of a traditional business mired in traditional processes trying to leap into the interwebs without actually being willing to embrace the change in attitudes, content, image, and style of outreach that may accompany it. It reminds me of people who want to optimize Web pages, but are unwilling to use the language that searchers use. They want...
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- Brad
I want to learn python. Is there a way I can write a script to query the Purphy-Goode site (e.g., for a site that explains why the #1 vote getter isn't good enough for them?) once a day for something? Twice a day?
- Jason Miller
http://www.empirereport.org .. Report in there will remind folks that included in the terms of the offer, Murphy-Goode is NOT required to hire ANYBODY - Hello? Perfectly reasonable, on their part? Perfectly reasonable to understand that and take advantage for oneself? WHAT WILL THE REACTION BE ... IF THEY DON'T HIRE ANYONE?
- Bob Kennedy
As Tara Hunt will put it: They've just lost a great deal of whuffie.
- Jorge
Where's my vote? Note to PR: It is 2009- If you want participation (key word) in your brand, then deliver and reciprocate (key word #2). We all know this.
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