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Gillmor Gang 12.17.09 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Life is grand - http://calacanis.com/2009...
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Congratulation Jason
- Steve Mott
I made a http://www.google.com/search... shortcut for when you want to do a real-time search on Google.
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ain't good enough but nice effort
- testbeta
Gillmor Gang 12.03.09 - http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2009...
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The Gillmor Gang — Doc Searls, Michael Arrington, Kevin Marks, Robert Scoble, and Dan Farber — rake Comcast and Microsoft over the HTML 5 coals. Recorded live, Thursday, December 3, 2009.
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang recording live 1PM Pacific http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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So, what are we talking about on the Gang today?
- Kevin Marks
@KevinMarks, I have something AS related that I'd like to show you next week. I think you'll appreciate it. Cliqset-related.
- Darren
would definitely like to see AS/Webfinger/GProfiles/OpenID being discussed.
- Jamie
I'm available for the Skype call.
- Robert Scoble
Be sure to discuss Information cards if you discuss OpenID
- Jesse Stay
What time is it? :)
- Rob La Gesse
Rob: sorry for running a little late. We'll be starting shortly. Steve, I'm on Skype now.
- Robert Scoble
4:30
- Jesse Stay
1 more minute...
- Robert Scoble
Too late? Nah, nah - it's just earlay, earlay...
- Jesse Stay
glad to see i'm not late. :)
- Karoli
love that 27 in imac Robert
- courtney benson
Mike Arrington is a state now?
- Jesse Stay
the 51st state, Jesse :)
- Roberto Bonini
My quad-core 27" iMac left China today! Can't wait - it arrives before Jason's baby ;)
- Rob La Gesse
If ChromeOS was out today, I would have bought a machine with it, rather than a MacBook for my family.
- Matt M (inactive)
Ha.
- Darren
google knoll is now a big part of profiles and now with openid/webfinger google profile is a big item
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Vizard, Scoble, Marks & Calacanis on the Gillmor Gang: Live Now at http://building43.com/realtime
- Cliff Gerrish
Looking forward to buying the Droid this weekend
- courtney benson
It won't hit it for everyone until they have a decent online graphics and financial solution
- Jesse Stay
knol uses google profiles, just as other google apps do - profiles are a service for google apps
- Kevin Marks
They also need to come up with a way to integrate with client-side ID (information cards, selectors, etc)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I see you saw the light at the Kynetx conf... (from cookies to selectors)
- Cliff Gerrish
I think the launch Chrome netbooks will be free
- Jamie
Cliff, my eyes have seriously been opened - I am a new man now. I see a whole new future from that conference
- Jesse Stay
Although I'm still trying to understand it all. It's all still in progress as we speak.
- Jesse Stay
What I think we need is <input type="openid"> for HTML5 so browsers can do clientside ID
- Kevin Marks
Kevin, that would be awesome
- Jesse Stay
how long ago did it start?
- Christopher Harris
<input type="openid"> is the only way OpenID will succeed. It's not usable in its current state right now.
- Matt M (inactive)
I don't want clientside, I want personal-cloud-side
- Kurtiss Hare
Matt, agreed
- Jesse Stay
Kurtiss, you need a combination of both - see http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
What people are wedded to is the development IDE - Nobody else has built anything near as compelling as Microsoft's IDE
- Rob La Gesse
html5 on the iphone is because of webkit
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jesse: that's not "personal" cloud, at least the way I think about it.
- Kurtiss Hare
that was WPF
- Jamie
the seesmic for windows uses WPF
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Kurtiss what is "personal" cloud?
- Jesse Stay
I still haven't installed Silverlight/WPF on any of my machines and I haven't missed any content on the web.
- Matt M (inactive)
WPF and Silverlight are converging as front-ends...
- Cliff Gerrish
I love the Netflix watch instantly -- it's silverlight...
- Cliff Gerrish
silverlight is still a subset of wpf
- Jamie
though the lines are blurring
- Jamie
It's a cloud that you own, that exposes "local services" like storage, identity selector config, computation, etc. to services you don't own
- Kurtiss Hare
Does this silverlight porting path just translate video, or the whole framework? If it's just video, it sounds like a WMV->MP4 codec.
- Matt M (inactive)
I don't think stream of audio or video via silverlight to a webkit browser counts as a dev platform for iphone
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
has anyone got documentation on sliverlight video playback on iPhone? I didn't see that demo
- Kevin Marks
Sharepoint 2010 supports silverlight
- Jamie
+1 bear.
- Matt M (inactive)
Kurtiss - where do you own it? On Amazon? Who hosts that data? If someone else is hosting it do you really own it? The client is the best place for the user to own their data. That can be supported by a cloud service, but your client needs to control it.
- Jesse Stay
Kevin http://www.iis.net/iphone
- Jamie
Jesse: that part's up to you, it can run from your house if you're into that. otherwise it can run from your amazon or rackspace account, whatever.
- Kurtiss Hare
Kurtiss, the average user is never going to be able to do that. It has to be something native in the browser or the operating system for the user to get it.
- Jesse Stay
@Kurtiss - your Rackspace account :) Please me more ;)
- Rob La Gesse
lol
- Kurtiss Hare
Also, a cloud-based service can't provide near the context a desktop client can
- Jesse Stay
Internal enterprise apps are never a predictor of platforms that'll survive. I could list dozens of dead Microsoft products that were "hot" for a while until they were abandoned.
- Matt M (inactive)
Jesse, for now, but when the broadband explosion comes....
- Stephen Pickering
Office for Web is .Net right?
- Paul Shadwell
Stephen, even then you're never going to have full control so long as you rely on the cloud for full context. See my article above.
- Jesse Stay
"turns out, microsoft developed the killer app for chrome os" - office web apps
- Jamie
enterprise == large user count behind a firewall with a private network
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jesse: What's the difference between the way that Windows/Mac OS X exposes my local services and the way a "personal cloud"-based OS could? It's Chrome OS' destiny ;)
- Kurtiss Hare
I've just finished installing SharePoint 2010 and now installing the Office Web Apps so I'll let you know shortly.
- Paul Shadwell
Robert, make sure you get that enterprise lecture from Steve before going on about Chatter
- Ross Mayfield
if chrome os enables a personal VPN experience that I can then allow individuals to "peek into" that would be a huge win
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Kurtiss, a personal cloud is never going to know what you're doing on Barnes and Noble vs. Borders.com at the same time. Please read my article above.
- Jesse Stay
Paul: NO. Office for Web is ALL JavaScript.
- Robert Scoble
"very loyal to office" == it's a huge pain and cost to translate all those proprietary docs to something else
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jesse, cloud based services can bring context using social web - bring context in form you contacts and activities
- Kevin Marks
Kevin, only to an extent. You still need the client to control that process.
- Jesse Stay
Kevin, Jesse's talking Action Cards.
- Cliff Gerrish
Robert Office Web has Silverlight "extras"
- Jamie
better fidelity, smoother zooming etc
- Jamie
Kevin, I saw the demo but haven't the docs for it. Just passes the video off directly to the vid player on iPhone. Here is the demo URL http://www.iis.net/iphone
- Jerry Schuman
Robert: Do you think they did that for increased cross browser support?
- Paul Shadwell
many companies are just scared to move to the web It seems an insecure place to them and they take the IT guys (who get paid to manage Exchange) word for it. "You don't want to do that. It's insecure." Few CEOs outside our business will challenge talk like that.
- Matt Terenzio
I truly love that indictment. LOL...it's only Obama, Congress has not a damn thing to do with it.
- Karoli
I have multiple clients that draw on my twitter, Poco and other cloud contexts. phones, laptops desktops use them
- Kevin Marks
yea, like obama has control over the senate and house or the huge military infrastructure that bush had 8 years to setup
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
BULLSHIT, Jason.
- Karoli
Jason, agreed. Not that it's a viable sol'n.
- Kurtiss Hare
Jasos is a die-hard libertarian. Love it.
- Jerry Schuman
obama set stem cell research free, that's crucial
- Christopher Harris
Karoli +1
- Ross Mayfield
My 20-year old innovating son thinks you're full of shit. His diabetes doesn't kill him.
- Karoli
ok, adding politics to this discussion just ruined it and reminds me of the bad version of gilmor gang
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Standard of living has increased with population. Not saying there aren't challenges.
- Matt Terenzio
Some companies can't innovate because they pay too much for health care
- Ross Mayfield
Let's get back to tech please!!!!!!!
- Peter Mullen
Ross +1 back to you.
- Karoli
Microsoft won't stop innovating, but they'll be innovating in the wrong direction (closed platforms, etc.)
- Matt M (inactive)
Jason sounds like Ehrlich's genocidal nonsense, not any Libertarians I know
- Kevin Marks
when all the normal workers - not those that are like most silicon valley startup wonks - can stop worrying about where the money for the next health bill comes from, then they will be able to spend time making work more productive
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Tim O'Reilly talks about Microsoft being a major player in the open web...
- Cliff Gerrish
Kevin, did you get the URL for the IIS demo?
- Jerry Schuman
Microsoft innovates but it's not accessible to the murmuring rabble. Like me. at least, not yet (other than Silverlight)
- Karoli
Microsoft is the greatest squandering of wealth in the History of business
- Stephen Pickering
Microsoft is a leader in the Information card space, and they're doing some amazing stuff with .Net, etc
- Jesse Stay
(note that I write this from a *nix-based MacBook Pro)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: see Craig Burton's rant on MSFT's implementation of cardspace.
- Cliff Gerrish
Microsoft is the new Newspaper business
- Matt Terenzio
Cliff, I'll look at that
- Jesse Stay
There's not a company that Balmer wouldn't buy. Gates had to come in and not allow him to bid more than 42 billion for Yahoo
- Stephen Pickering
How about Silverlight/Gestalt - running Ruby/Python in the browser.
- Cliff Gerrish
ahem
- Ross Mayfield
Gestalt is a dead end (I blogged here a while ago: http://grack.com/blog...)
- Matt M (inactive)
and how is Salesforce managing this change in direction and focus... open source and open protocols I suspect
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Client wars have been going on for 2 decades.. it doesn't matter. You will have multiple native and web based clients from now until the cows come home.
- Jerry Schuman
warlords of tech, each guarding their own fiefdom.
- Karoli
The apathy of the user community regarding clients was evidenced by the failure of "Write Once, Run Everywhere"
- Jerry Schuman
it all boils down to Tower Defense!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I think you just hit the nail on the head bear :-)
- Paul Shadwell
Robert it already exists.. DOM manipulations
- Jerry Schuman
Jerry: DOM Manipulations + Action Cards gets you there.
- Cliff Gerrish
the major change comes with context awareness. We're almost there.. very close in my estimation.
- Jerry Schuman
Jerry: Action Cards are all about contextual browsing.
- Cliff Gerrish
There are no generic enclosures is what I think Dave meant
- Matt Terenzio
meta data is data - it can be included with other meta data or consumed as is. what is key is removing the silo mentality -- open data api's to allow neutral use cases
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
twitter has always been a feature to be included in other apps -- they *are* a pipe
- Karoli
yes, they have rolled out a number of new features but they still have fundamental stability issues when followers drop off your account, when api calls still return random errors and other quality of life issues
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
btw: all those things you just mentioned extended Twitters discrete extensions of the backend. You're seeing twitter manipulate and compartmentalize their schema
- Jerry Schuman
bear, not only that, but they're anti-community. by sending that message, they tell me they intend to be a pipe for my data, not a host.
- Karoli
i've become so accustomed to their slowness of innovation, i certainly don't take the recently developed features for granted like I did when G or FF innovates...sad, really.
- Kurtiss Hare
still looking for those 'features'. closing conversations, making retweets a metric, and adding lists...?
- Karoli
While I might agree with ppl discounted MS I think discounting Ray Ozzie is a HUGE mistake. Especially if Ballmer gets forced out of MS.
- Rob La Gesse
it's all DATA SOUP. Apple had it right with the Newton ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
Authoritative ecosystems of record will still rule the day.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff +1
- Karoli
tweetie iphone is stil the best way to access
- Jamie
:) The Newton rocks! (still)
- Rob La Gesse
Gah Jerry - Newton Soup was the worlds slowest data model. Nice idea, lousy implementation.
- Kevin Marks
my commodore 64 is still in the garage...
- Karoli
Kevin, blame the processor ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
my C64 is right next to my pc and the mac :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Great show guys! Like Mike, I like the Pre
- Peter Mullen
bye...good show even with the politics. :)
- Karoli
Thanks, sorry @Ross for not mentioning SocialText.
- Robert Scoble
short show :-(
- Jamie
We should do an enterprise shootout between all these new social enterprise systems
- Robert Scoble
Jamie: gotta make Turkey! :-)
- Robert Scoble
ah we dont have thanksgiving here
- Jamie
don't mind shorter shows if they are focused. except for the "into the ditch" diversion of the political discussion this was a nice tightly focused show
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I love SocialText, when I use it :-)
- Jesse Stay
I do.
- Aron Michalski
I do.
- Aron Michalski
Has anyone built a VMWare image of Chrome OS yet so I can try it out?
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and what about the "custom firmware" in that case? mmmh... I'm a little concerned
- Claudio Cicali
please share if exists
- Jacopod
there is an image_to_vmware.sh in src/scripts - that should do the trick [I will check it after dinner :) ]
- Marco Fabbri
I'm also interested in this VMWare image.... This could be a great find and resource.
- George B
Bret, I haven't tried it, but there you go: http://www.wuala.com/chromeo...
- Orlando Pozo
Geez, yet another Linux clone.
- Адский Блондин
(Clone wars vet. Need $$$ to build Deth Star ©)
- Адский Блондин
Just tried that VMware chrome OS image, it is a SUSE Linux distribution with GNOME, GDM is customized with Google Chrome logo, and also Google Chrome browser, that's it for now :S.
- Orlando Pozo
Arg! I can confirm, it's a fake (the live cd) :(
- Brandon
I thought I was going to get something like http://friendfeed.com/orlando...
- Orlando Pozo
Let's see Brandon, I am anxious to test this thing :)
- Orlando Pozo
The build is also pretty broken. It is missing a bunch of the Google packages like google-gflags. I am almost done with a build - we'll see :)
- Bret Taylor
Nice Bret, post it when you can.
- Orlando Pozo
So the consensus is that the VMX image is indeed a fake correct?
- George B
Yes, this is fake http://getchrome.eu/downloa...
- Orlando Pozo
Looking forward to it too
- Charlie Anzman
Techcrunch has a confirmed iso and has posted a tutorial: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Brandon
Brandon, that worked out the box. VMWare doesn't recognize the NIC, use VirtualBox instead.
- Orlando Pozo
Virtualbox doesn't support OpenGL (Xgl), so you won't see effects like this http://www.youtube.com/watch... :(
- Orlando Pozo
I built it earlier, check it out at: http://gdgt.com/google... And we just released a VirtualBox and Bootable USB image (not mentioned in that TC article).
- Jon Ursenbach
Christopher's gdgt link looks good to me.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Run Chrome. Go to your gmail. Open second tab for your contacts. Open third tab for your calendar. Now you are running Chrome OS. ; >
- Cole Jolley
Why oh why do I have to register (gdgt.com) to download the image?
- Özkan Altuner
here it is: http://www.easy-share.com/347XXXX... This should work as you can see in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch... (it's in italian but you will get the point!)
- Alessandro
you can get one at http://www.gdgt.com. Just search for Chrome OS
- Chieze Okoye
I tried it but I had to install vmware workstation to work it out. I am not able to get the native resolution. It is stuck at 800x600.
- Ashish
Gillmor Gang 11.12.09 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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iDroid Wars
- Steve Gillmor
nice one boys
- Pam Gwenzi
Droid WANT. I'm so over the iPhone & it's annoying app machine *eye roll*
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
Gillmor Gang 11.05.09 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Gillmor Gang 10.29.09 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Why the focus on just e-mail (out of curiosity)? Why not the phone number, and what about the 24 hour storage limit for data? Any word on those opening up more with users' permission?
- Jesse Stay
I'm still watching, btw - maybe it gets answered later
- Jesse Stay
I'm also very curious of their plans to open up the search API - that would be much more interesting than their current roadmap.
- Jesse Stay
In regards to permalinks Facebook does have permalinks on fan Pages
- Jesse Stay
Re: the newsfeed Robert should really interview someone on Facebook's newsfeed team. That would be a very interesting interview. I don't think the FriendFeed team can answer those questions.
- Jesse Stay
Re: the platform I do really want to know Facebook's plans for real-time API integration. Will they adopt PSHB or RSSCloud or a standard of their own to provide real-time updates to the stream?
- Jesse Stay
Maybe you should ask Robert to interview the realtime API integration team too. Oh wait.
- Steve Gillmor
from iPhone
:)
- Susan Beebe
Jesse: I'm not the only member of the Gillmor Gang. In fact, I'm far from its most important member. Or did you mean to post this stuff to me for other parts of building43?
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I meant it would be good for building43. But yes, it would be interesting for Gillmor Gang as well.
- Jesse Stay
we'll have stream guys on when they have something to say, which judging by the Roadmap announcements, will be sooner than later.
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang 10.22.09 - http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Stream Splicing — Threadsy's Rob Goldman with Kevin Marks, Robert Scoble, and Dan Farber. Recorded live Thursday, October 22, 2009. Full transcript below the video, courtesy of Simulscribe.
- Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang 10.08.09 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Borthwick, Fitton, Marks, Scoble, Farber, Loic.
- Steve Gillmor
thanks for having me Steve.
- Loic Le Meur
Interesting as usual, the ecosystem is set to explode with the Listing API and curation is what everyone needs to be working on. Nice to hear more opinions about status updates converging and reading lists trending, as the potential issues with proxy rights to link data and a Facebook App Store. Looking forward for the transcript.
- Alberto Saavedra
For First Time, AIDS Vaccine Shows Some Success in Trials - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
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The technology behind Tornado, FriendFeed's web server - Bret Taylor's blog - http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
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We have open sourced our web server. Download it at http://www.tornadoweb.org/. Check out the Facebook announcement at http://developers.facebook.com/news...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
See a live chat demo: http://chan.friendfeed.com:8888/
- Casey Muller
Wow! Thanks so much, Bret and co!
- Doug Beeferman
this was very interesting; good job
- RAPatton
neat
- anna sauce
I wonder what the engineering decision was to not use a WSGI interface.
- mikepk
mikepk: it supports WSGI, but it is not WSGI by default because WSGI does not support non-blocking I/O for things like hanging connections. See http://www.tornadoweb.org/documen....
- Bret Taylor
This actually is a very good piece of code! Thanks folks!
- directeur
cool, Bret, thanks :) I was just heading through the docs now.
- mikepk
Thanks for doing this, Bret! That's some pretty cool stuff.
- Keith Bourgoin
that's great. thanks..
- deerstep
oh man, this is so awesome, thanks guys!
- Charles Ying
Is "tonado" a typo?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I'm hacking my own python web framework at the moment, so now the choice on whether I want to switch gears to this or not. I'm liking what I see so far.
- mikepk
Bruce: Yes
- Casey Muller
Wow.. Thanks!! pretty much makes my day.. which is scary in it's own rite.
- Chris Myles
Great news! Cheers to the FF team!
- Egon Willighagen
Nice new title Brett.."Facebook Director of Products".. a good sign of things to come!
- Chris Myles
very very glad to hear this bit: "Tornado is a core piece of infrastructure that powers FriendFeed's real-time functionality, which we plan to actively maintain."
- Chris Heath
Great work
- James Myatt
Franz: enables widespread adoption which leads to greater influence of the technique
- Mike Chelen
So excited this is out. So many personal projects I have been wanting to build with it :)
- Bret Taylor
Fantastic, Bret (and team)!
- Micah
A very good project!...you know if will be possibile to use Tornado with other technogies except Python (such as JEE, Ruby On Rails, etc.)?
- Nicola Junior Vitto
Cristo: we tried to use the official Python coding conventions, though we may have inadvertently strayed. Those conventions are: ClassNames, method_names, variable_names
- Bret Taylor
Brilliant! I hope you can provide very valuable input for the next round of #python WSGI, which desperately needs a next round ;)
- Uche Ogbuji
Re: WSGI needing help, see http://www.b-list.org/weblog...
- Uche Ogbuji
grt
- Xitong Liu
"Facebook's opensource technologies" link is broken on tornadoweb.org ..
- deerstep
Onur, worked for me - and still works now
- Chris Heath
Very cool, in case someone needs a high-end Web Server for a project, FriendFeed just open-sourced theirs, & apparently, it screams..
- Alex Schleber
Nicola: there is a Ruby example - http://gist.github.com/184760
- Mike Chelen
thx Mike, but this is a kind of eventmachine (that sounds good) for Ruby, not a Tornado client or wrapper...isn't it?
- Nicola Junior Vitto
Excellent! Thank you. Was eagerly waiting for the day to come after looking this just 1 month ago; "changeset: 5afb8a445cad / date: 2009-08-11 16:34:48 / description: Initial open source packages" http://changelog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- NaHi
from m.ctor.org
Chris, yes it is fixed.. I swear it was broken ..
- deerstep
Good catch, NaHi. :)
- Micah
Thanks guys. Really appriciated.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
That's great. thanks Bret :-)
- Nimaa
Nice job on the non-blocking stuff Bret!
- Mitchell Tsai
"We have open sourced our web server" @bret took over a year but is worth the wait. thx for the follow through ~ http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
- Peter Renshaw
Ohhh, ummm, btw, your underhanded behind the scenes sell out still rankles my human decency, & a lot of others too, as should yours...thumbs down/dislike x 47.5 million dollars, however not being bitter of course, keep ignorance & bliss
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
that's the sound of I believe 100000000? or so hands clapping...& giving you the BOOOO-URNS if I'm not mistaken...
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
oh you sonsabitchez this fscking rules! why so badass, ff? thank. you. :)
- mike
So, can we say; Python is the future?
- Özkan Altuner
Nice code. Started to look at it today. Thanks for doing this. Now to start testing this on some projects I had been working on.
- Altan Khendup
Diego: we run on Linux.
- Bret Taylor
from email
@bret just out of curiosity - what would necessitate usage of such an engine for a *personal* project? :)
- Michael Bravo
Michael: it is a nice framework to use for any project in my opinion (though I am clearly biased). If you are doing anything real-time like the chat demo, something like Tornado is certainly necessary/useful regardless of the size of the project.
- Bret Taylor
from email
@bret and for little-sized hardware? should have try it on Maemo based :)))
- Отборнейший бред
@silpol I kinda fail to see Maemo devices being used for servers (unless it's some kind of satellite-based or other covert server maybe :) )
- Michael Bravo
from IM
@mbravo you never know... there are some unusual (and cool) apps for web servers, granted you abstain (on purpose) from classical models, e.g.server farm somewhere there and herds of clients connecting to it...
- Отборнейший бред
I think this is the best answer for the ultimate question: "Does python needs yet another web framework?" While most of us would say why, when one come across this, a real world proven technology, serving zillions of pages a day, one would say, well, why not. actually, why not even take it an try to integrate out next web app with it? great job! seems like joining FB won't do you any harm ;-)
- Tzury Bar Yochay
We've seen tornado vs twisted, how about tornado vs rails? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Tzury Bar Yochay
http://chan.friendfeed.com:8888/ It doesn't work. I'd like to see chat.js :)
- Анатолий Шарифулин
FriendFeed's web server, open sourced? This is great! Welcoome, Tornado!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Bret: how do you proxy long-living connections through nginx? Vanilla nginx buffers everything.
- Alex Kapranoff
nginx has a configuration option to turn off buffering.
- Tristan Seligmann
Live now: This Week in Tech 211 with Nicole Lee, Dwight Silverman, and John C. Dvorak. http://live.twit.tv Discuss here...
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Tech i hope?
- Zee.
edit!
- Dakota O'Neill
Maybe....
- x5315
yep.
- Dakota O'Neill
ah, genius suspense artist... :) I know what you're doing :)
- Zee.
a number as a middle name, interesting!
- Dakota O'Neill
Hey everyone
- Seth Hoogeboom
Hey all!
- Joel Lovato
Hey Joel
- Seth Hoogeboom
Microsoft Bob has arrived!
- Dakota O'Neill
Hey Seth
- Joel Lovato
Hola All!
- RALPH
Watching live for once....
- Chris Miller
I never watch TWiT live usually ;)
- Seth Hoogeboom
I always watch live
- Victor Hooper
Watching live is better because you get to hear *everything*...
- CG
You can't beat watching live. I already have my beer, waiting for the dvorak/blog.org .ol
- RALPH
I do both, I am usually multitasking, and I could miss something
- RALPH
@ Hipp - Same.
- Dakota O'Neill
Oh, nice and early today
- Jeremy Wong
Mike can be a tosser
- Mark
That Apple Store robbery was an awesome video
- Seth Hoogeboom
Definitely well planned.
- x5315
wait, leo is complaining that the news channel gets 3 minutes out of a 32 second video and he spends how many minutes discussing how the news channel spent 3 minutes on it?...
- jccalhoun
lol
- Seth Hoogeboom
but Gmail was only down on on the web
- x5315
POP and IMAP still worked
- Seth Hoogeboom
Don't companies use Mail or Outlook so they use IMAP or POP?
- x5315
Most likely
- Seth Hoogeboom
Yahoo leads because of the bundle deal they did with SBC as the default service for DSL users. Hotmail's up there just because Microsoft uses it as a global account identifier for all their online services.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'll bet if you look at *active* accounts, Gmail's up there.
- Ken Sheppardson
i think everyone who's really into Windows 7 probably already has it
- x5315
John needs exciting tech news before he falls asleep
- dawgbytez
he should have a win 7 party
- Victor Hooper
Leo I have totally immersed myself in all of Googles offerings. I like it in spite of privacy risk. Value add!
- earl wallace
Has there been any news on Chrome OS lately?
- Seth Hoogeboom
from IM
TWiT 211 - Party in Your Pants (?)
- Ken Sheppardson
How 'bout an XBOX and a dozen Zunes.
- Ken Sheppardson
A deck of cards, that will be some party.
- Ghworg
I know, right?
- Seth Hoogeboom
from IM
Ken, then Microsoft could double the number of people using the Zune
- x5315
Ghworg: The deck of cards is so you can play solitaire when nobody you know shows up.
- Ken Sheppardson
pwned
- Seth Hoogeboom
from IM
microsoft marketing = fail
- HansVanRock
Haha, so true
- Seth Hoogeboom
from IM
Windows Weekly, Leo
- Ken Sheppardson
Did everyone see that Jon had already left?
- x5315
Paul wearing a little pointy hat, blowing a noisemaker.
- Ken Sheppardson
Windows has massive share, because they do things like House Party. They canvass all areas of the market. I can see this would appeal to some people I know.
- Fergal Barry
Windows Weekly XXX: The House Party
- Seth Hoogeboom
from IM
Windows doesn't have massive market share because they do things like House Party.
- Ken Sheppardson
Windows has massive market share because it's the default OS on 90% of the computers sold.
- Ken Sheppardson
i will do a ring of death or bluescreen party
- HansVanRock
Yes!
- Seth Hoogeboom
from IM
Uh-huh. So the marketing is all a conspiracy to hide hide another conspiracy to put it on 90% of computers. I geddit.
- Fergal Barry
Upgrading Wordpress is dead easy if you are using the stock install. If you have customized it then it is more awkward.
- Ghworg
What are you talking about, Fergal?
- Ken Sheppardson
Windows is on 90% of computers partly because MS takes marketing very seriously. House Party is segmented marketing. Isn't that an easy explanation?
- Fergal Barry
I'm downloading the Windows 7 Enterprise trial :)
- Seth Hoogeboom
Safari's so...awkward on Vista.
- rwa2play
The reason Google kept the "I'm feeling lucky" button is because they did a study and they found that people find it "comforting", so they kept it for comfort
- CG
the new flash is coming in 10.6.1
- x5315
The whole Flash thing is the biggest non-story of last week. Looks like everybody run out of news.
- notagolfer
"It's possible to become too dry, too corporate, too much about making money. I think what's delightful about 'I'm Feeling Lucky' is that it reminds you there are real people here," Google exec Marissa Mayer explained, or at least tried to. -- http://valleywag.gawker.com/324927...
- Ken Sheppardson
Stories: What’s Next with the Apple OS X : http://www.loomingtech.com/2009...
- Squealing Rat
More about the "I'm feeling lucky" button - http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display...
- Ken Sheppardson
does that really work?
- Victor Hooper
Those comments by Pogue are quite inflammatory.
- rwa2play
Stories: The Mesh Wireless Network: http://www.loomingtech.com/2009...
- Squealing Rat
Apple is probably using something similar to nspluginwrapper http://freshmeat.net/project... which 64-bit browsers on linux used for a long time to get the 32-bit flash plugin to work.
- Ghworg
Yep, Flash runs in a separate process.
- x5315
Isn't Thurrott releasing a book about Windows 7? Should he be reviewing Win7?
- Paul Grav
that's a good point
- x5315
I guess there are different standards for MainStream Media.
- Fergal Barry
I wouldn't mind a disclaimer being a commercial. Virtuous circle from proper disclosure. Maybe the paper editors would though...
- Fergal Barry
New adverts are needed, new companies.
- Mark
no one gives a shit about these any more, if you listen to ten TWiT network shows, you get the audible crap ten times with ten URL's.
- Mark
Yeah! I wanna work there!
- Fergal Barry
VMware May Be Microsoft’s Top Rival After Google ....looks interesting!
- Fergal Barry
Leo, you should look at Nokia N900, an attempt by Nokia to compete with the IPHONE, with motion sensors
- RALPH
She's right the global leader that is AT&T is the last carrier on the planet to offer MMS to iPhone users.
- John Brazel
No one should ever feel sorry for AT&T.
- Joel Lovato
I'm not watching the show, but with virtualized XP, MSFT is trying to price VMware out of the Market. I hear it's pretty damn nifty. How many people are going to shell out $$$ for VMware when virtualized XP covers 75% of use cases.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
It has a keyboard, that apparently is quite easy to use... check out this recent link from maemo.org Leo, http://maemo.org/communi...
- RALPH
Those invites were sent only to young people :)
- notagolfer
Thanks Roberto. VMware article on del.icio.us page, but not discussed yet. I'd love to hear more about it. In the link from del.icio.us it says VMWare acquired SpringSource, a maker of open-source software development tools, to raise the stakes.
- Fergal Barry
no he will not show up
- alex chan
no beatles &stones combined, hence the unusual lyric Leo.
- John Brazel
He'll show because paul and ringo will be ther
- Jim Lyons
I think he will
- Seth Hoogeboom
Only if it's about the Beatles catalog comes to iTunes
- rwa2play
I think Apple is looking to steal Zune's thunder and he'll show.
- Joel Lovato
I think Leo overestimates the significance of 9/9/09 as a "Beatles" event. It's first and foremost...particularly for anybody under 50... just a neat day from a numerological standpoint.
- Ken Sheppardson
A yellow Beatles iPod. Which is waterproof.
- Ghworg
Beatles catalog comes to iTunes...and Paul and Ringo come to the presentation. Only then would Steve show up.
- rwa2play
9/9/09 is the Dreamcast birthday
- Seth Hoogeboom
Me too. It's gotta be The Beatles coming to iTunes; Paul & Ringo join Steve for the announcement AND a Sp. Edition Beatles iPod.
- rwa2play
Wait... WHAT? Steve Jobs doesn't want to be the story? Are you joking?
- Ken Sheppardson
Steve wants to be the story...but only in a positive light.
- rwa2play
"big suit"
- Ken Sheppardson
Houston Chronicle FTW - I grew up reading Silverman's articles.
- Jesse Stay
"Box Office Mojo reports that, since 1978, superhero movies have grossed over $7.28 billion at the domestic box office, with an average gross of $94.6 million per film." -- http://www.cnbc.com/id...
- Ken Sheppardson
Disney is currently owning the little girls market with Hannah Montanna and other things on the Disney Channel. They recently rebranded their Disney Toon channel as Disney DX in an attempt to get little boys to watch their stuff. Buying Marvel is a way to get that market.
- jccalhoun
Editorializing is that a euphemism for rant?
- John Brazel
In todays world, yes
- Seth Hoogeboom
It came from the 80's
- John Brazel
Jeez... it doesn't have a "birthday". There was no day on which it existed, the day before which it didn't. It was a gradual, incremental thing. Like evolution. On what day was the first human born? [Adam and Eve notwithstanding, and I'm sure somebody will bring up the fact they weren't "born"...]
- Ken Sheppardson
Adam and Eve weren't born.
- Joel Lovato
Just say it was 1969 that the internet was "born."
- rwa2play
See "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" for a pretty darn good history of all this http://www.amazon.com/Where-W...
- Ken Sheppardson
Look at some of the photos of those who created the Internet. A prerequisite was that you had to have an awesome beard. The link between the hippies at Woodstock and the Internet stands revealed (Beards!!!).
- JR Holmes
Whitman was certainly there for the Skype purchase.
- Ken Sheppardson
Well, thanks for trying Leo...woulda liked some perspective on SpringSource. I don't know much about them...maybe work the topic some other time :)
- Fergal Barry
I would love a web design show. For a good web design podcast check http://boagworld.com/
- Jim Lyons
TIME: eBay recently paid at least $2.6 billion for the Internet phone company Skype, and the two words most frequently used to describe the purchase were "head scratching." Was the price excessive? WHITMAN: We obviously think it was fair. We looked at value in Skype in a number of different ways: the amount we paid on a per-user basis, discounted cash flows, etc. We also looked at what we thought Skype could do on its own and with eBay. -- http://www.time.com/time...
- Ken Sheppardson
A VMWare country! The Netherlands!
- Fergal Barry
TIME: What will take to make growth even more dynamic? WHITMAN: That's one of the reasons we're excited about Skype. It can create a new way for buyers and sellers to communicate. It actually will help us get into new categories. For example, if you're a web designer, it's hard for you to sell your product on eBay - what you want to do is connect and find out what the buyer wants.
- Ken Sheppardson
Leo's Dutch sounds like Goldmember from Austin Powers
- Shawn Cleghorn
Q: What about buying Skype? Whitman: We liked Skype and still like Skype as a standalone business—a $400 million, four-year-old. Skype is doing more business as a four-year-old than eBay, Yahoo, or even Google did. We saw potential synergies between Skype and eBay. The next year or so will prove out if we were right. We’ve only had our management team in there for three months. Prior to...
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- Ken Sheppardson
Have you seen that Spotify just released the iPhone and Android apps about an hour ago? - https://www.spotify.com/blog...
- James
Yes! Name it Party in My Pants!
- Seth Hoogeboom
XD
- Seth Hoogeboom
Fonzie jumps the shark - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ken Sheppardson
Leo I'm in
- Jim Lyons
Do you have a phone booth we can all squeeze into circa 1950's 60's?
- shelter watch
Too bad I'm leaving SF the 20th. I'd love to be guest at the TWIT Windows 7 Houseparty...
- David Schmidt
Paul should host a house party on his end too.
- Ken Sheppardson
If you submit your request to host a Windows 7 House Party from a Mac... don't hold your breath ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Is Carbonite still a TWiT network sponsor? I dumped them for Backblaze... which I mention only because y'all were discussing http://blog.backblaze.com/2009... See also http://friendfeed.com/bret...
- Ken Sheppardson
Carbonite is still a sponsor - but you're more than welcome to use another solution! ;-) Do you prefer Backblaze to S3 with Jungle Disk?
- Leo Laporte
Leo, I use S3 with Jungle Disk but I am really digging Dropbox over S3. Do you see any advantage to stay with S3 over dropbox?
- Jeremy Behrens
I haven't looked at Jungle Disk in a long, long time but at $0.15 per GB-Month it seems closer to Dropbox than a set-it-and-forget-it background backup system like Carbonite or Backblaze. (Backblaze is $5/mo for unlimited storage)
- Ken Sheppardson
I have to say that this was a good TWiT
- Seth Hoogeboom
from IM
Once again another great episode! Love the How Old is the Internet really story.
- Victor Aroma
I'm pleased to announce that when the Gillmor Gang returns this Thursday at 1PM Pacific, it will be sponsored by Rackspace and streamed live on Building43's new RealTime Network channel. We'll be doing some testing between now and then. First up is my conversation with FriendFeed-->Facebook's Paul Buchheit. MG Siegler's summary is here:...
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Sweetness!
- Stephen Pickering
Steve thank you for doing this! The world is a very dull place without the gang!
- Michael Pinto
Great to see The Gillmor Gang returning to the Interwebs! :) Will the episodes be available as audio and/or video podcasts for later downloading? Just in case I miss the live show...
- Daniel Chow
Will the Gillmor Gang be available as a mp3 download via podcast feed?
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
PS Remember what we learned from Jason: Make it a point to tweet a thank you to @Rackspace
- Michael Pinto
:) Thanks, Michael. Rackspace is very pleased to help bring Gillmor Gang back to the 'tubes!
- Rob La Gesse
Rack 'em up. It's game on!
- Micah
Heck, yeah!
- Scott Greiff
Hope to see it available for download.
- Dan Cameron
Yay, I am so glad to that GG is back!! Wooo hoooo!
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Glad the show is coming back and nice job on storming the castle for the Buchheit interview.
- Mark Krynsky
Looking forward to it...
- Wayne Sutton
yay!
- Daniel Brusilovsky
wonderful; and thanks rackspace
- w grant
GG Wikipedia page updated. :)
- Alex Harden
Glad to see this who back on the air
- Fred Grott
Since Steve never seems to respond to download questions can someone be sure to record it and torrent it or such, I've never understood the whole "real time is the new black if you're not here to catch the show live tough shit" unspoken message that seems to have been going on for awhile. I can't be the only one put off by this, the content is compelling, so I put up with it, I wish I had the willpower to not listen out of protest. :)
- Michael Breslin
i agree. or put it on the bootleg feed
- Sebastian Keil
from email
Could you record the video of the show and post it on your Youtube account?
- Charbax
Michael, I have responded. The shows will be published on YouTube and made available for download.
- Steve Gillmor
SCREW YOU Scoble...SCREW YOU!!!
- zxspectrum
Good to know Steve, I've seen the question asked so many times and never answered, I must have missed the time you did answer, my mistake, bottom line: I think the GG is the best thing on my ipod and when I can't get it on there and can't catch the show due to work it sucks. :)
- Michael Breslin
I commend Steve for his dogged pursuit of the Real time Web aka Infinity Chip, though it is brutally painful at times to follow and/or be part of every step along the way. I too vote for a nice simple "old school" rss feed for the audio only recording. Then again, I am probably missing the point.
- Jason Adams
Jason: only that the Gang is returning on video. Today I listened to a video cast of Meet the Press in the car, worked beautifully, and when I wanted to see the last few minutes of Kennedy footage, rewound and watched. Whether it is delivered by RSS or streaming is up to the user. In fact, it was easier to download directly via iPhone iTunes than synching the phone to the RSS feed on the Mac. Interestingly, it continues to download in the background while I go through email.
- Steve Gillmor
Was that Meet the Press video cast live? The issue of video versus audio is moot for me, if I don't feel like watching I don't have to, it's the time shifted aspect that people are always asking for Steve. It seems you're commited to get the show in downloadable form and that's all I was ever asking for. That the show is now in video format is great for many, I generally listen to the majority of content I consume (even if its format is video). Thanks again, can't wait for today's GG!
- Michael Breslin
We are pleased to announce that the Gillmor Gang is back - and delivered through the Real Time Network on building43.com. Gillmor Gang (with video!) will air live on Thursdays, at 1PM Pacific time. Rackspace is happy to sponsor Gillmor Gang, and the Real Time Network. This cooperative effort will continue building43's efforts to educate, inform...
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Congratulations, Rob - I know you've been working to make this happen on your end. So, when is that break coming you were talking about taking? :)
- Robert J Taylor
Gutsy move to sponsor a show which has a meltdown every 1.2 episodes :)
- Mark
Sounds like a great fit.
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
sweet and/or awesome
- Chris Heath
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that there will be an archive! I can't watch video on my work pc! Can't wait for the Gilmor Gang to happen again!
- ursi
WOW, just made my day, Gillmor is my dowsing rods for the attention economy the rest of the world is just figuring out we are living in
- David Stratton
How are you guys managing the video feeds from multiple locations for this show? Would love for you to share your secret :-)
- Chris Nadeau
not really skypesaurus, but a child or red-headed step-son ... they're using mac minis right? and what for kvm?
- Chris Heath
Twitter matters - I wouldn't know the Fiat race successes without it. Could apply to many other things as well. #gillmorgang
- Rick Bucich
Just announced that @stevegillmor 's "Gang" will be aired at http://www.building43.com/realtim... Thursdays at 1 pm via http://friendfeed.com/realtim...
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recordings?
- Panayotis Vryonis
meh
- Mattb4rd
It looks like with this announcement, Michael Arrington is now back on FriendFeed: http://friendfeed.com/michael...
- Jesse Stay
During the workday?
- Jeff Harbert
Robert, could you please explain the hard- and software-setup using for the live-stream?
- HansVanRock
Hans: We haven't announced the hardware and software we are using to stream the Gang yet, but for starters it's powered by NewTek Tricaster.
- Steve Gillmor
Looking forward to this, and would like to hear about the tech too
- Kevin Marks
from Android
I'll be asleep on the other side of the world. Let us know when you get the RSS feed up, Steve :)
- Edward Coffey
Plans on a downloadable file? I don't think the boss would appreciate me walking around the store with headphones on. :-)
- Larry Walker
Clicking the embedded viewer works at any hour in any part of the planet.
- Steve Gillmor
Very cool. Thanks Steve.
- Larry Walker
Let us know when the bootleg mp3 download gets posted on Friendfeed
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
RSS please unfollow.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Cool, so I just need to write a script to click that link and record the stream so the file is waiting for me when I sync my MP3 player. Modern technology makes it so much easier than when we had to use clunky old VCRs to record things!
- Edward Coffey
you'll be able to download the MP4 as soon as Google fixes a bug they're working on.
- Steve Gillmor
Excellent, thanks Steve. (which bug?)
- Edward Coffey
Bad Hair Day uses RSS. http://badhair.us/rss.xml
- Dave Winer
. @edwardc I am sure the mp3 will be available on the gilmor gang bootleg feed
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
if everyone insists on bootlegging, then won't worry about Google fixing the bug
- Steve Gillmor
no bootlegger me....just need something that will play on my iphone after the fact. :)
- Karoli
No bootlegging here either, just need something to show up in iTunes (automatically) with the rest of the podcasts.
- PXLated
sounds like you will have at least a few options. I'm not planning to release audio only, so you'll need to either get a blindfold or go bottleg
- Steve Gillmor
well, we'll give it a try, see how it rolls.
- Karoli
Will there be official 'Gillmor Gang' blindfolds available in the Building 43 gift shop?
- Cliff Gerrish
No audio only - Booo!
- PXLated
Wait - logo'ed blindfolds at $15/pop is intriguing to m :)
- Rob La Gesse
Building 43 GG blindfolds $30
- Steve Gillmor
oh I see Cliff already got there
- Steve Gillmor
I'll take 2. it's a bargain these days. :)
- Karoli
It's not quite RSS, but it feels the same...
- Cliff Gerrish
Option earplug accessories for just 19.95 (plus separate shipping and handling)
- Rob La Gesse
John Lennon wore our Firesign Theatre Not Insane button.
- Steve Gillmor
Bravos, good to have the show back after your holiday. @stevegillmor are you inviting Leo to play along?
- Dave Martin
Curious Steve - Why no audio only? - Seems simple enough to do.
- PXLated
Close your eyes - even easier :)
- Rob La Gesse
If its video that is released, its video I will take!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Can I get a pair of "driver"-style GG blindfolds, please?
- Robert J Taylor
from iPhone
Attention wise, video is much more expensive than audio. I don't have the money to devote an hour of my eyes and ears to the gill or gang at this time.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Christian, I think what they're saying is that you can put the MP4 on your playback device and listen to it and ignore the video component. I know that works on iPods and iPhones.
- Dave Winer
Dave, you are as unproductive as you've ever been. What I've said is that RSS is in the process of being disrupted by micromessaging, and no amount of name calling is going to change that. Your attempts to reinvent RSS will not get traction if you continue to slime the messenger. And having this discussion here underlines how partisan your attacks are.
- Steve Gillmor
The message above is out of context because Dave Winer deleted the message to which I am responding. I thought about saving his message and reprinting it below where only the owner of this thread could remove it, but figured it wasn't worth it. This is also why I never respond to anything in a thread Dave owns unless I don't care if it gets erased or the context removed.
- Steve Gillmor
Where's the Winer Watcher when you need it?
- Matthew Gifford
mmm, popcorn!
- Laura Norvig
The iPhone has a bug that will not allow you to download over the air for consuming later mp3s or mp4s unless they are an enclosure to an RSS feed.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
once Google fixes their bug (Wednesday) you should be able to download via RSS.
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, the msg you're referring to was here just a few seconds, I realized it'd provoke the kind of response it has, and decided I didn't want to go there. Re being unproductive, I've had a cold this week and have been unable to do dev work, but I'm feeling better and expect to releas some new software this week. Don't expect TC to cover it, as usual. Finally Steve as you know the <cloud> element has been in RSS for eight years, hardly a retrofit.
- Dave Winer
So did google fix their bug yesterday? Any idea what the Gillmor Gang RSS feed is?
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
FriendFeed Cofounder Paul Buchheit Discusses Facebook Acquisition (video) - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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"Robert Scoble and I ran into freshly-acquired FriendFeed cofounder Paul Buchheit at a brunch on Sunday. I pulled out my trusty Android myTouch and with his permission asked him a few questions about the sale to Facebook a week ago."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I love the "rumor" Mike tried to insert in there! LOL :)
- Susan Beebe
Yeah, he's pretty clever Susan.
- Paul Buchheit
what happens to all your titles? Will they stay @ FB also or do they have their 'own' titles for you guys.
- kartik vaithyanathan
my request to Paul would be to write a series of blog posts (or maybe a book) on the transition from FF to FB :-)
- kartik vaithyanathan
Wow, I was really surprised how young this Paul Buchheit looked on the video. He can't be any younger than maybe 23? No way can be purchase alcohol without showing ID!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
They say the camera removes 10 years.
- Paul Buchheit
Does it really?? I only heard it makes you look 10 pounds heavier!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Scoble laugh's quite loudly :)
- Roberto Bonini
Paul, you handle being bumrushed at brunch much better than I would. :)
- EricaJoy
Big respect to Arrington for including a transcript.
- Andrew C (✓)
Telling people is a good way of convincing yourself you are going to do something. The other good way is to actually do it.
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@Vincent: You beat me to it. Reading that article made it incredibly clear to me that I make this mistake all the time. And I never seem to finish anything :P
- Joel Webber
I'm guilty of this too. Strangely, I've been pushing myself to spend more time talking about my ideas thinking that I would feel more internal pressure to see them to completion. From empirical analysis, I can safely say this has not worked as well as I had hoped. I think I have an idea of how to fix it, but I'm not going to tell you what it is.
- Kelly Norton
I've seen this work well for others in that they got credit for ideas that they just talked about, rather than actually did. Any method of counteracting that?
- Clare Dibble
@Clare: Well, not talking about your ideas might counteract that tendency, but then you'd be stuck without sounding boards for your ideas. I find it's great to talk about ideas, so that you can think about them more clearly. But when I decide to actually build something, I try to keep my mouth shut until I have something to show for it.
- Joel Webber
The future market traders use margins that are updated daily to make sure people are going to deliver the goods.
- James Michael Mike DuPont
Sony's PlayStation 3 Slim Is $300 in September - playstation 3 slim - Gizmodo - http://gizmodo.com/5340035...
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It's about time!! Now seriously thinking of buying a PS3 at this lower price point...
- Jennie Lin
from Bookmarklet
Sweet! That was my main excuse for not getting one (waiting for a slim version). And $300 is a good price point.
- Dan Hsiao
little big planet here i come!
- Felicia Yue
@ Felicia: Yes!! LBP is the first game I'm going to get. When I played it over the holidays at a friends house, it was the driving reason behind my desire to get a PS3 :)
- Jennie Lin
"There will be a new PS3 logo as well as modifications to the official name from PLAYSTATION 3 to PlayStation 3 as to not be shouting all the time." LOL
- Alice Liu
@Jennie - i've never played it but i love sackboy. and it's gotten such good reviews. my only problem is i am totally anti-social and i hear it's a game better-enjoyed with a crowd
- Felicia Yue
How do people feel about blu-ray? Is it worth investing in or should it be skipped in favor of whatever disc-less technology comes next?
- Dan Hsiao
There are a couple of movies that seem to play really well on Blu-Ray but to be honest, Blu-Ray itself isn't reason enough for me to spend money on a new player. Now, if it's a Blu-Ray player that also plays video games, well, I'd be more willing to open up my wallet ;)
- Jennie Lin
FriendFeed accepts Facebook friend request - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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We've been acquired by Facebook! We are really excited about joining the Facebook team. (Note: FriendFeed will continue to operate - see the blog post for details)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Boom.
- Louis Gray
Grr!
- directeur
Woah...
- Brandon Titus
Uh. Well, that's the end of that.
- Akiva
Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
What does this mean for FriendFeed, Bret?
- Kol Tregaskes
Lame.
- Mark Trapp
great title bret. well played.
- MG Siegler
WOW
- Bindu Reddy
Congrat! So, what does this mean to your team and to FF in general?
- Dilip Dand
wahhhhhhhhhh
- Myrna
maaaan
- Jamie
wowow
- Harry Wolff
congrats
- brainno722 (Peter)
Nooooooooooooo
- Mushin
Wait... seriously?
- Ken Sheppardson
Congratulations to the friendfeed team. I know this is huge for y'all. Please don't let us spoil your parade as we weep.
- Ordinarybug Heather
Seriously?!? .....
- sebastian☆rocket brother
oh boy.
- Carlos Ayala
it was good while it lasted, Friendfeed. :(
- holly #ravingfangirl
OMG
- deerstep
"FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team." Those are NOT encouraging things to read as a FF user.
- Hiding in Two Corners
gratz
- Ali
My heart is sinking as I type this. Please tell me that it isn't a late April Fool's joke. :(
- Tyson Key
Big news! I second Kol & dilip's request for what this means for the team and FF's future.
- Brandon Titus
O_o
- Joe Silence
So it IS true.
- Hector
Nicely done Bret
- Jennifer Van Grove
Congratulations btw, guys!
- Kol Tregaskes
Sniff... not sure if I'm excited about this. But I have enormous respect for the FriendFeed team... so, I assume they believe in the move as more than an exit strategy.
- Michael Leggett
Congrats, Bret.
- Jordan Hofker
Congratulations, I suppose. A bit worried Facebook is going to ruin everything though. I'm not fond of Facebook, to say the least.
- Morgaine LeFaye
Um.
- Barry Mitchelson
Oh my... Hopefully FriendFeed won't vanish and good luck :)
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Do we call it FaceFeed? FriendBook?
- Tyson Key
Oh no....
- Ben Hanten
damn here it is... :(
- Edgar Rodríguez
*waits for wall-to-wall ads and constant spambots*
- Joe Silence
FriendFace!!! (i love it crowd)
- Bahriye
Die.
- zio bonino
Congrats
- Zoltan Szendro
I dont want FF to end
- Fee501st
Wow
- Shevonne
Ostregheta.
- reloj
Congrats guys, in a bittersweet sort of way.
- Hutch Carpenter
Oh no!
- Erdinc YILMAZEL
I like Friendfeed and I do not like Facebook. Gratz to you guys though, I think.
- Mark Sorrell
"Oh shit..." came to mind immediately. :(
- Tyson Key
Scott, yep not encouraged by that comment. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Congrats on the deal, best wishes to the FF'ers in helping facebook get it together!
- Sean O'Connor
This could get exciting, especially concerning twitter :-P
- Malte Steckmeister
Congrats for Friendfeed team, but I'm seriously worried for us :(((((((((((
- Roberto
Congratulations... I'm sure this is pretty exciting for everyone at FriendFeed... We're all looking forward to where it takes you!
- Nathan Chase
Wow
- Rodfather
wow
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
*Sobs*
- Tyson Key
come on. Bret, facebook is so closed. so different from Friendfeed. besides that. Congrats to the team
- Edgar Rodríguez
machecazzo
- Sba (stolto birrafondaio)
VERY disappointed.
- Joe Silence
Booo. But, you know, congrats.
- Chris Nixon
OMG WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SH*T
- Alp
Congrats for u guys... probably too bad for us ;-(
- Laurent
God, I can see FB shutting down FF just like Six Apart shut down Pownce.
- DarknessFalls
arg.
- Aron Michalski
Good for you, don't know for all of us
- Cristian Conti
Congrats!
- Pixie
Coolest web 2.0 site I've ever seen & used. I hope things don't derail. Ads will be coming soon, which is fine, but.... then what 's next? Please no quizzes!
- Ben Hanten
Who would have thought that after Facebook were shamelessly being "inspired" by FriendFeed, the inevitable would have happened?
- Tyson Key
Congrats!
- Moushumi Kabir
Congrats guys. :)
- Meryn Stol
Congratulations. This is awesome for you and for Facebook.
- Mike Sego
mommy?
- Josh Haley
Hey guys, keep in mind that Facebook is blocked in workplaces across the nation. 250 million casual users commenting about last night's party does not intelligent conversation make.
- Hector
yes you have just failed at failing, no it is not a double negative.
- Bahriye
Tragic.
- Shannon
I really can't see how FB would buy FF only to shut it down. There are way too many innovations and features FF has that FB honestly needs. I'm looking forward.
- Harry Wolff
Congrats? Everybody who's saying Congrats doesn't know what he's saying. Go to hell.
- zio bonino
Yeah, quizzes are EVIL!
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Oh, this does not make me happy. Not at all! I've stayed off of Facebook intentionally and FriendFeed is my favorite social network. This is like when the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees. :>(
- Larry Hawes
i have stopped using FB for the most part and liked FF alot more. now FF will go the way of FB. screwed again.
- Joe Silence
Berge Gazen beat your score in Mafia Wars
- Berge Gazen
Feedface or Facefeed?
- Fee501st
FUCK THAT ! [Anyways good job guys ^^]
- TiTi
Enjoy your fat paychecks, guys. You've sold us out.
- Akiva
Bravo Bret! Been following your successes ever since we had the opportunity to work together on the YellowPages.ca / Google Maps Canada deal. Congrats!
- Sebastien
I wished it was Google or even Yahoo!, instead...
- Tyson Key
i really hope ff stays as it is. fb is kinder carder while ff is a great tool.
- jkkmobile
Not sure what to make of this. It could eiter be a big win or a huge fail.
- dorn
It could have been Microsoft, which would have been worse for everyone. :(
- Tyson Key
Can I take this opportunity to say I HATE facebook?
- Alex Scrivener
seems the only ppl happy here are the ones in the biz or who stand to profit from the merger.
- Joe Silence
I guess we should get ready to get poked by our supposed friends and have various shit thrown at us? Plus 5,000 requests by apps that nearly all suck.
- Joey Gibson
duh
- aybars badur
I HATE facebook
- Pedram
this is simply awful.
- Joe Silence
Painful. And apparently I completely misunderstood what FF was trying to accomplish both technically and as an organization. I guess Facebook must have dangled a pretty big bag of money in front of them.
- Ken Sheppardson
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! :/
- Tyson Key
Awesome. Please fix Facebook email :) http://fudge.org/too-muc...
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook is going to acquire the web!
- l'Ego di Gigi
To me, FriendFeed is like Porsche and Facebook a Kia. I'm curious to see which will become which..
- Moushumi Kabir
Oh noes!
- Burcu Dogan
Congrats Bret!
- Robin Dindayal
I will reserve judgement, i don't like or use FB but if FF maintains it's current goodness i don't care who cuts the checks.
- SteVe "Beefy Miracle" C
I hope this doesn't turn into an APP filled hunk of crap. I love FriendFeed, it was the untouched gem of microblogging. I don't want Mafia Wars invited in my FriendFeed!!! Congrats on the sale though.
- Jay 'Farmington'
Where's the "dislike" option?
- Gregor Morrill
+1 Gregor
- Tyson Key
accipicchia che pessima notizia
- massimo mantellini
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!!! -_-
- Bahriye
I just realized this is like when K-mart bought Sears ...
- DarknessFalls
/ponders the meaning of "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being."
- Philipp Lenssen
And I will officially be leaving FriendFeed today.
- Michael Forian
omg
- John Mueller
@Philipp: until the new masters start flexing their muscles and bringing in their own people to enforce their own vision.
- Joe Silence
Such great news!
- Steve Rubel
OMG!
- Zac Bowling
big mistake :((
- emresezgin
I suppose it will be called FriendFace? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Phil Harrison
Oh. Hell. No.
- CannonGod
Oh My God! They Killed FriendFeed!
- Tyson Key
It's a win/win! congrats all.
- Alan Le
Congrats to you.
- Evan Travers
Congratulations. I look forward to seeing what this new partnership means for users.
- Aren Grimshaw
FF will surely be integrated into FB at some point?
- Kol Tregaskes
damn Ken is spot on! +1000 Ken!
- vijay
not good.
- Jacque
Oh. My. Gosh.
- Enrico Lamperti
Facebook obviously liked FriendFeed a long time ago. Why would they have copied so many features (feed item comments and the "Like" action, to name a couple) otherwise? It was only logical for this to happen eventually. Doesn't mean I like it, but acquisition is part of the game. I have the same feeling I did when SocialThing! was acquired by AOL, though.
- dgw
"Relationship Status: It's complicated" comes to mind. ;)
- Tyson Key
Wow, I finally sign up, and read this. This could end up being a very bad thing for FF fans: "Your FriendFeed friend just signed up on this poll, would you like to too?"
- Brian Bommarito
sad...
- Marvin
This will give FriedFeed the attention it deserves. Otherwise it would have been a geek thing forever.
- Michael Netsch
aw, this sux!! Congrats to the Friendfeed team though!
- acedanger
please don't merge logins!!! please
- earlyadopter
They are deceived when they suffer themselves to be drawn after the image of things, without seeking for the true reason of them.
- The Complex Days
I hope it works OK to you guys!
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
D:
- Chris Charabaruk
+1 Netsch - I still like FF more but this finally legitimizes FF to the mainstream.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Friend request una beata fava. Pecunia non olet.
- Federico Bolsoman
Yeah, I really can't wait to see what value the Ashton Kutchers and Oprahs of the world have to add to FriendFeed.
- Akiva
Please tell me this is a delayed April Fools' Day joke.
- Rochelle
Facebook & FriendFeed: don't cross the lifestreams! D:<
- CannonGod
I guess this means I'll have toget a facebook account after all.... Hope the API stays up and running....
- Roberto Bonini
"Were rich B!tch!" - Chappelle
- adolfo foronda
What a bunch of greedy assholes.
- zio bonino
So ?
- Ercan Bülbül
Does this mean that we'll be seeing an influx of webcam spammers, a la Twitter? Along with abolishment of the rooms feature, crappification of the search feature, and more "privacy features" that really just put more nails in the openness coffin?
- Tyson Key
:(
- Pavlo Zahozhenko
Some people will do whatever their friends request........
- Michael Muller
I really don't see why people would be anything but excited about this Facebook freindfeed deal. Great news as far as I am concerned. The Friend feed team is going to go over facebook and make it that much easier to connect, share... isn't that what the social web is about?
- Kevin Murray
I know a lot of people who use Facebook and enjoy it and that's fair enough. It's just not my cup of tea. The chaps from Friendfeed will get rich and the technology will get absorbed in Facebook but I can't see Friendfeed continuing in anything like it's present form.
- Paul Nash
Don't be so negative, something good might eventually come of this...
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Congrats! I know you all must be crazy excited right now.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
chance for FriendFeed to become more mainstream... congrats FriendFeed team!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Nothing could make me happier than if they integrated the good tools from FriendFeed into Facebook, which is where all my friends are. So a big "yay!" from me.
- Ian Betteridge
happy for you guys, but not for all of us
- Flavio
congratulations. this is going to be interesting.
- Dave Beckett
I think I preferred the non-mainstream version of FriendFeed...
- Tyson Key
I'm turning on my black shirt, my black trouser, my black socks, my black shoes. Although I probably must be happy for you.
- Ton Zijp
NASTY NASTY BAD BAD. But we'll see...
- Daniel Morgan
Game over.
- stark
yeah removing feed also works.
- Bahriye
Reminds me so much of Last.fm fall...
- Marcos
Facebook is like a giant who listens to nobody. Please keep your attitude but I don't think you will be able to do so.
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
Noooooooo......
- Sung W. Lim
yeahhh
- Çağrı Burak Sürer
NO
- Cristian Conti
I don't know, Like it? or dislike it?
- Ömer Balamir
What happens to all the content that we've created and imported here, and the associated metadata? Will all that disappear into the ether?
- Tyson Key
If the FriendFeed guys can make FaceBook useful and responsive again, this seems like a pretty positive step!
- Robin Barooah
I have big loss of data concerns. See http://ff.im/6pHjo Is there any way to archive all my FriendFeed posts, likes, comments, and pictures (friendfeed-media.com) off-line? Can some Archive.org-like snapshots of FriendFeed be made (Once a month starting Sept 2009)? I'd like to see the cross-links between my posts & other people's posts, even in 2020. -
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell: the FriendFeed site is not shutting down. Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users.
- Bret Taylor
I just overheard a coworker mention FriendFeed. This is how the world ends...
- CannonGod
Then provide us with a way to easily make a back-up of all of our posts and all of the posts we have Liked and Commented on.
- Akiva
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want it to be handed off to Facebook.
- zio bonino
Near term future?
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't see good things coming from this. Although I like Facebook, I liked Friendfeed more. Partly because of the environment and the smallness of it. That is now going to be ruined. So, 10-1 odds that Friendfeed will be no more within a year after it gets intergrated into Facebook?
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
I doubt it Robin. Bret can only give us assurances about the "near future." Here's what I think will happen. Just like Twitter acquired Rael Dornfest and his awesome web services, Stikkit and I Want Sandy vanished (and so did he), Facebook will acquire all the talent from Friendfeed, shut this service down and Facebook will continue to suck.
- Jim the Blatant
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want anything to be handed off to Facebook. And I don't want to lose anything.
- zio bonino
Congrats obviously, but im not sure about the feeling,, different user groups which can not integrate but collide.. hope there wont be an huge integration in the future.
- Yunus Tunak
I'm happy for FriendFeed! But, at the same time a bit worried about the future. Hope you guys convince FB to not be evil too.
- Vishal Verma
Let's hope this is like Disney's acquisition of Pixar - wherein the Pixar guys ended up in control of the animation studio...
- Robin Barooah
from IM
Where the f*ck is this option to undo ?
- Laurent
I seriously thought this was a joke. Looks like its not. I don't like it, sorry.
- Michael Lynton
Does anyone want to start a bounty to purchase Facebook? ;)
- Tyson Key
Congratulations!
- John Craft
can't be, shouldn't be...
- Kemal Y.
It is! Change is inevitable, my friends.
- Bill Sodeman
Jim, I'm less cynical than you - the FriendFeed founders wouldn't do this just in order to become 'talent' at FaceBook.
- Robin Barooah
I feel if I should be wearing a black arm band. But I guess when I think about it..............
- Kevin J Hatton
Oh No! I don't like this at all :(
- Peter
I still think Apple will acquire Facebook, Twitter Friendfeed and Google Twitter.
- Thomas Power
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
- Stephen Francoeur
My condolences to all Friendfeeders! RIP!
- Evgeni Leshtanski
AAAAwwwful!
- carolh
I can't believe it! damn! facebook tos will apply to friendfeed too? should i start to move to another service? why anyone would think that facebook public is friendfeed public?! damn! friedfeed was my favorite! I can't understand this move! they want to kill friendfeed or what?
- paula simoes ☃
"I bet I can find 1.000.0000 people who dislike this deal."...Welcome to FriendBook.
- Jacque
Well, huge congraulations to you and your team, you deserve every success. To be honest I had presumed this would happen sooner or later - the only business model cool little startups have is to hope they get bought by someone bigger for their brains and technology. I'm going to be in San Francisco in a couple of weeks and was going to stop by your office to bring you a cake and thank you for a great product - maybe I still will if you're still there and there's still a FriendFeed!
- Alex Lomas
damn, damn, damn...
- Kemal Y.
Grats Bret and the rest of FF. To all the naysayers... Lets see what happens before we start bitching....
- Rasmus Lauridsen
wow!! dazed and confused!!
- Roberto Arancibia
I don't hate Facebook, but for sharing things Friendfeed is MUCH MUCH better!
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
I wonder if that Ben Darnell guy who *just* left the Google reader team knew about this beforehand? Wonder what he's thinking now? (http://friendfeed.com/friendf...)
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Just great. I'm certainly not very happy about this. Let's just hope FB doesn't ruin FF. Ugh.
- axolote
Who cares? Nothing's gonna change in our pitiful lifes.
- bluretina
This ties in nicely with the fact that you soon will have the opportunity to make your Facebook profiles public and get followers there.
- Michael Netsch
чатег номер два
- старина хэнк
Congrats Bret! this is so great! many congrats!!!
- Jason Pollock
That is capitalism for you. Luckely, there still good 'ol usenet.
- ˈpɛbə
Is it April 1st somewhere in the universe?
- Robert Felty
I don't mean to be negative but there's got to be a win-win logic to each merger&acquisiton. Audience high in only quantity is clearly not a win for friendfeed in the long term by considering its unique selling points. Let's wait and see who will benefit from friendfeed's death now.
- ayca
Seriously, what is this? It's like Bret just announced that he's killed all your mothers or something. It could turn out good, it could turn out bad, but at the end of the day, who cares, it's just a website (I mean honestly, come on). I could see it going either way, but in the near term, this is a pretty big win for the FF team, so congrats guys.
- Chieze Okoye
OMG!
- keso
To be honest, my heart sank a little but I am happy to congratulate you and the team for building such a good brand. Well done.
- Kevin J Hatton
Wow, I specifically use friendfeed b/c it is not facebook. Sounds great for the friendfeed team, but not necessarily for friendfeed users.
- Evan Parker
Born to be sold, like in the old "new economy" era. Remember the late nineties?
- Federico Bolsoman
Sudden desire to check out Strands again... but hey, kudos on the incoming $$ for FF team
- Leslie Poston
This is wisdom. Bracing for Google Wave is a good idea.............
- Kevin J Hatton
this is clearly a talent aquisition... why am i not excited about this? could it be because facebook has been blatantly stealing features from friendfeed shamelessly. Likes were clearly not an original facebook idea...realtime feeds is another i could go on...
- Tate
While I'm sad, because I suspect this means the best things about FF will disappear or I'll be forced to use FB in some way, if the buyout was for some awesome amount of money, I can't say I blame 'em for taking an offer -- I would.
- Andy Bakun
I came to FriendFeed because I don't like facebook. Now the question is, will facebook become more like friend feed? or will they just take friend feed and turn it into facebook?
- Tom Ray
FF could be a good R&D arm for facebook.
- Andy Bakun
Fucking morons. FriendFeed is doomed now. Think logically. Facebook has NO REASON to keep FriendFeed alive. It will simply take FF's best features, suck the life of out of it, then trash FF. Way to go, FirnedFeed, damn.
- Jeremy Buff
Big Fail!
- onurc
This announcement should have been held off until the plans for Friendfeed were known. Regardless, this is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone.
- tollie williams
wtf ?!
- Umut Balkan
I need to install "super PUKE" application !
- Bart LePoole
FFail.
- rowlikeagirl
I don't want my FF feed on Facebook :( I use both, but maintain both profiles separate
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Sigh... Happy for the team if this is what they want, but baffled by the move. The users that are going to leave because of this will make FF a graveyard and the users it gains, well... Hello spam? Sorry, but I don't like it.
- Vince DeGeorge
from iPhone
JEREMY+++++1
- Alp B.
Wow!
- felix
Jeremy +1
- batuhan
so what's next? where should we go?
- Flavio
It's been fun here.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Dang, and just as I was starting to get used to how FF works. FF is useful on it's own. I hope this only improves FF's system, rather than having it disappear into Facebook's wake.
- Don Faulkner
My big question to everybody here is this: What are the potential downsides / upsides to this acquisition? I mean on paper I just don't see what the pros OR cons are. I don't care for Facebook but I don't see how them acquiring FF is going to change everything.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
furthermore they are 2 different things: I follow a lot of people here that are not in my facebook list, which is for IRL friends!
- Flavio
I don't know where to go next either. I had just settled down to make imaginary friends for all my non-FF tweeps, etc. now, I'm not sure if I should bother.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I hope friendfeed continues to operate normally but it does not look good.
- Ashish
integrate best features of ff to fb, then try to innovate in fb if possible, then kill ff... that's it, cheers, all the best. grrrr...
- Kemal Y.
niczak has good points. FF & FB aren't exactly competitors, but they aren't orthogonal either. Let's hope FB's smart enough to see the difference and improve both platforms.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Nicholas: The upside for Facebook is they just bought an engineering team that's built many of the feature's Facebook's going to need to stay competitive. The upside for FriendFeed's engineering team is $$$ and the ability to build system for a wider audience. FriendFeed's user base is small enough that it'll either get absorbed into Facebook or move on, and FF will become a footnote on the Internet timeline.
- Ken Sheppardson
first tr.im (heard about it yesterday), now this. I wasn't a heavy tr.im user (yet), but sad to see it go, even if I think url shortening is silly.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
As FB said they're interested in the people and not in the site, what if the community will keep running FF without its current staff?
- Flavio
Congratulations!
- Sam Grover
rutgerblom, I don't expect they do either, thus my angst over this.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
if there's a team willing to do it and money, and if we accept some ads as everywhere else, we could make a new FF without FB
- Flavio
read carefully: http://blog.socialthing.com/2009...
- Kemal Y.
I'll have to go with Flavio's position too. Given this news (plus tr.im and who knows who's next), I'd tend to favor community supported or federated services for things like this in the future.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I am purposely not on facebook because I don't really want to talk to people I have not talked to in 20 years.
- Andy Bakun
Congrat Bret!! :))
- Cihan Cepni
trouble is (from my perspective), that the philosophies of the two platforms are at odds. FB wants to bring people to the site and keep them there, while FF is a hub, bringing people in and then sending them back out. (That's part of why it's hard for the newcomer to understand, IMHO.)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
This almost confirms FF will disappear: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Kol Tregaskes
Does this mean I can throw someone a sheep on FriendFeed now?
- Pinksy
I sure hope so, Rutger. I glad for their success too. I just hope there's a next best thing out there for us.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Congrats all. Nice work, in spite of any naysaying out there. Keep up the innovation.
- Tomas Remotigue
lame.
- andy brudtkuhl
post the picture to failblog...
- Kemal Y.
Quote «Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority.¶ But Facebook is...
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- Philipp Lenssen
+1 Kol for the techcrunch article!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
techcrunch: "Cox agreed, noting that Facebook is focused on being a platform and a service, and not just a destination site." I certainly hope so!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Brilliant move by both Facebook and friendfeed. Congratulations!!! I have theories of what they have planned, but I doubt you would verify any of them. This is going to go so well with their SocialTV which they have been developing. I'm so happy for you!
- Michael Fidler
Really saddened by this news.
- Doug Beeferman
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
- LouCypher
I don't see what's so bad about it since no one knows right now what the outcome will be, everyone is just making assumptions that could possibly be wrong..... Might help just sitting back and seeing what happens first before complaining.
- ChaCha Fance
Nooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrghh! I´ve resisted getting a facebook acct for so long...
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
I wonder how the discussion over on facebook would compare to this?
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Drat!
- Gee Ekachai
congrats guys!
- Elad
Congrats, FF! I'm approaching the situation with cautious optimism. A lot of my friends only share stuff via the Facebook wall/feed, so if Facebook is able to make their feed more like the FF feed (i.e. good, instead of sucktacular) through this acquisition, it's mostly a win for me in the end.
- Brian Chang
/me pokes Rutger. (just getting in practice. ;)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Where will we go for the FFunderCats, bacon memes, and angry artists fighting over photo reshares now? ;)
- Tyson Key
@josh: do you think FB will throw away all the crap people use? various quiz, pick 5 and so on?
- Flavio
@jc: our data will not go away in the near future. what will be in few months? in a year?
- Flavio
Let's see if you can do a bit better than just not being evil this time around.
- Tim Tyler
Wooohooo!!, seems like we are being sent back to "good" old Facebook. Congrats Bret!!
- DanDan
Looks like I'm going to repeat the same thing many others did. My first reaction was "Oh my..." I have refused to join Facebook due to its philosophy while I have been with FriendFeed from the beginning for its. I'm sad and somewhat apprehensive.
- Sean Leather
Hmm. Interesting.
- Ralf Becker
Add me to the fearful group.
- beersage
Please say that facebook.com will be shutting down, and the combined company will still be called FriendFeed... I bet it won't happen, though.
- Tyson Key
"Regarding FB/FF - Here's how it's [probably] going to work. You will most likely have an account merge, all of the services FriendFeed supports will now be aggregated on Facebook, and all of your FriendFeed friends will be in a "list" on Facebook. The FF Groups will become Facebook Groups. The FF lists will become Facebook Lists." http://ff.im/6pNxq
- Ozgur Uckan
Nothing like an early retirement payout :)
- Owen Greaves
Congrat Bret
- Nimaa
Panic attack. Congratulations, however! :)
- Count Caturday
Congratulations Bret. For me this merger makes a lot of sense. Facebook will provide the "quantity" of users, which friendfeed deserves :).
- Karthick R
:(
- goodmachine
FriendFeed + Facebook... Oh noes FriendFace is coming (http://www.youtube.com/watch...)! Now sorry for that link, and seriously, thanks for your work, guys. Please don't let the spirit of FriendFeed to be blown away =)
- Anton
hey, that is great guys! interested to see how you integrate.
- Brian Walsh
Mind blown. Never expected this. I'm also disappointed, yet optimistic at the same time.
- Angus Burton
Kinda curious to see how this will all pan out...although i wouldnt want the friendfeed stuff just integrated into facebook. I feel like im among a group of people who i genuinely share interests with here...dont want to lost that.
- Cass
Best case: Facebook will continue to support and develop FriendFeed. Worst case: this is great news for Amplifeeder.
- David Gaw
aieeeeeeeeeee
- Richard Akerman
Well done, well deserved, I hope FB's means and infrastructures empower your guys to even better things. But if quizzes appear in "my" friendfeed, evil things will haunt you and your descendents for 3 generations.
- Iphigenie
:(
- Eph Zero
Well done Bret!
- Alemsah Ozturk
♪ ♪ This is the end.... beautiful friends ♪ ♪
- All for design
Well, I don't see the point of sticking around here if I have accounts in both and this is going to get swallowed whole into Facebook anyways. Put simply, goodbye.
- Micah Collard
It was fun while it lasted.
- Mr. Gunn
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! This place will be just like twitter...
- count
Congrats to the FF team - you've built a wonderful product!
- Michael Nielsen
Whattttttttttttttttttttt???
- Nibi
friendfeed is a beautiful product, only god knows what facebrook will do to it. Hopefully the ability to upload files (such as mp3s) will not be removed. Zuck is a tool.
- Nibi
Congratulations. I'm sorry to say that I don't plan to move with you.
- Lars Juhl Jensen
I don't like this....
- Zekeriya Pehlivan
"Like" to follow this thread. Not because I like what happened. I'm horrified. FF could disappear now.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Same here, Kamilah.
- Tyson Key
If FriendFeed had invented the "don't like" button, today would have been the day to press it.
- Vishal Verma
and I just bought BuddyFeed for my iPhone this weekend. :(
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Oh, joy, Facebook's privacy policy is upon us!
- Joris
WTF?? NOOOOO!!! Why do such good things have to be ruined by greed? Screw Facebook, and goodbye Friendfeed.
- Jason R. Hunter
congratulations!
- Loic Le Meur
Facebook is lucky to have such a talented group of people ... Congratulations FriendFeed!
- Rob Kurrus
doesn't look like a bad joke, better be for the good then, but... Well congrats anyway guys, you did something AWESOME now let's see where Mark takes it
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
That's too bad. Liked the openness if FriendFeed, and the lack crap that is on Facebook. Once FriendFeed dies, it will be Twitter only.
- Mike D.
Congrats, but concerned that FriendFeed and its tools may disappear. Merging the tools with Facebook seems impossible.
- Mike Reynolds
Congrats guys (and gals) !
- Benjy Weinberger
So, what does the acquisition of FriendFeed by Facebook mean to us, users of both websites: Can I make a friend request from FriendFeed, and be approved for both, on one click
- Reyna Carlos
Exciting news guys. I am actually looking forward to your collaboration with / work for FB. No matter what people may or may not like about FB, it does succeed in reaching a more "diverse" audience compared to most other Web 2.0/social web companies. Paired with your team's excellence in realizing features that succeed in pleasing the geekiest of Web 2.0 affine individuals, I think you are steering towards exciting waters :)
- Mustafa K. Isik
*heart sinks* actually a bit of shock - I think that Facebook will leave Friendfeed as-is but I don't think there is hope for future innovation in Friendfeed since their best superstar team members will be pulled onto 'more important' Facebook issues...
- Pon
:-) + :-( very happy for the team, huge achievement, hoping to see export of innovation but not a shut down of this unique community and location
- Majento
Congratulations, and best wishes for your future together! :-)
- Ruchira S. Datta
Wow, I was beginning to use Friendfeed as my defacto social site...Facebook is more for real life friends. They'll just take what makes Friendfeed great, add it to Facebook and slowly kill this site.
- Manuel Mas
What is the big deal? I think it'll make FF bigger and better. You should be happy about that!
- orionstarr
Somebody has to got pay for it.
- orionstarr
I am disappointed. I don't want to have to go to Facebook to do what i do here. I can not imagine they will port over all the features we enjoy here. We lose a lot for only a slight benefit to Facebook.
- Robert
It could be worse, myspace could've bought them lol...
- orionstarr
Awful news for users but congratulations to you guys. Ideally, FB will run FF as a distinct service but I'm not hopeful. I don't want the diversity and noise that facebook brings - people doing quizzes on which movie star they resemble and playing silly games. I also wanted to keep my day to day social activity distinct from the targeted information and discussion I use FF for.
- Rajit
Only just started taking a serious look at FF after hearing acquisition by FB. Sounds like I'm laggard rather than a leader in use of web 2.0
- ManojRanaweera
I think how Pon said it is what I'm feeling: *heart sinks*.
- Andy Bakun
Congratulations, i am really happy for you guys!! :)
- Mona Nomura
I'm not a Facebook fan, but can't begrudge the FF gang their chance to reap the rewards for all their hard work. However, it would be a shame if FB ruins the good thing we all have going here.
- Ken Morley
Congrats to the FF team... I hope the service doesn't disappear into a fold of light and heat.
- Brandon
if all the things that make FF great are brought to FB then I'll be happy to use it
- Mike Chelen
The community won't be there. Been on FB longer than any other, don't have nearly the relationship or sense of community there that I do here or on Twitter.
- Karoli
Karoli: that is due to the effectiveness of the FF platform and interface, which help to join conversations and find interesting people more so than FB does
- Mike Chelen
Mike: I suspect that FB wants FF for the search possibilities, not the community-building aspects. But we'll see.
- Karoli
i guess congrats are in order, but I'm going to now go and remove everything I have that feeds into FF, and I have to ask -- do I have any rights over my archive? I have a private feed, and I have no interest in offering up my lifestream to the FaceBook data-miners. I hope the FF folks get what they hope for out of the deal, but my FriendFeed experience has been effectively killed.
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I just learned about the FF acquisition by Facebook - WOW~! Congratulations Bret, Paul and FF team!! holy cow ........Mooooooooo! Where's the FF Acquisition Party? :)
- Susan Beebe
Friendfeed after Facebook http://ff.im/6q5EY
- Ozgur Uckan
RT @alirizaesin FriendFeed, R.I.P. Home tweet home!..
- Ozgur Uckan
Congrats to facebook. Now, Twitter is the best.
- miocaro
Congratulations to the FriendFeed guys on the Facebook Acquisition. Not a big fan of Facebook, so I hope my favorite Uber Aggregator, Realtime Social, Microblogging site of awesomeness is not entirely absorbed into the Facebook infrastructure. I wait with baited breath to hear what "normally for the time being" means ;).
- Tom Horn
Can I now have comments propagate in both directions as far as Facebook/Friendfeed is concerned?
- Piaw Na
*checks date*. Damn .. not April 1st, must be for real. While I'm happy for the FF team, since I guess this is what they wanted (congrats guys!), I can't help but think this is the beginning of the end for a great service and a vibrant community. There are reasons I don't spend any time on Facebook and do spend lots of time on FF, and some kind of "FF integrated into Facebook" just won't cut it. I hope this service will live on for at least a few more years.
- Andrew Perry
Gratz to the FF team but as a user I'm not completely happy. In short, I like the FF team/product much more than I like the FB team/product. Best of luck to all.
- timepilot
Все, блядь, пиздец!
- ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
WOW - very happy for all of you :-)
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Bret, congrats on the acquisition. You guys put in a lot of hard work to create this community. I just hope you learned the mistakes Pownce made, Jaiku etc, and ensured that you didn't sell out your community, but that you helped it evolve into something as great as this into something better. Good luck in future endeavors!
- Mike Lewis
Yay for you guys, I mean that seriously, I 'like' what this means for you personally, but -1000000 cool points for doing it with FB. Sad day.
- Threepwood
Karoli: FF search is so useful because it is integrated with all the other great features that help to find relevant content. if FB wants to have a similar capability, they must also develop the underlying architecture.
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Sadness
- yasin
Gimme my OPML export
- Sriks7
Money is the root of all evil
- Shakeel Mahate
shakeel, the reasons for friendfeed to join facebook are probably about other things besides money, since many of the FF staff left high-paying jobs to join in the first place
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Congrats, team! It's bittersweet, though.
- Anne Bouey
So now we will have FriendFeed blocked at work too. Darn.
- Mark Scrimshire
"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future" is not exactly inspiring for the long term for those of us who came here to escape Facebook for a) it's walled garden and b) privacy concerns. Nice for the Founders to make a pile of cash but for the many of us, it feels like we got sold down the river. Sad.
- Sally Church
This is tragic. Tragic. Tragic.
- Ahsan Ali
cacarr: updates for FB have progressed rapidly in the past, count how many months since new features such as api calls and site redesigns have have been implemented
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Congratulation to the FF team! You guys deserves this. I just hope that Facebook does not change the directions of FF.
- Vinko
congrats, I'm happy for friendfeed...
- amelia arapoff
Congrats you guys, well deserved.
- Shey
I hope this means better integration: liking here will auto-like on fb and such :D if that's the case, I won't mind the ads *wink* *wink*
- Ac0n (former Franc)
Franc, cant stand facebook ads in their current format, hope they will be fixed eventually :P
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Grats, dont spend it all in one place.....
- Robert Higgins
congrads. I think it will be good for BOTH companies.
- Logan Lindquist
boo.
- kelly
The Borg has struck. Alas. Prepare to be assimilated. (Will FB add my FF subscriptions to my FB friends list?)
- Dennis Jernberg
Boo
- Amit Morson
Now that you guys have $$$ you should swap out the not so very pleasing default avatar!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
BOO! Hiss! Mondays really do suck.
- Dale
Congratulations to all the FriendFeed team. I hope you'll be able to keep the FriendFeed spirit up at Facebook. Kudos for all the great work you've been doing.
- Paul Papadimitriou
Congrats and good luck..
- Can Koklu
Thanks for all the fish. Saving the so long... for now.
- abacab
Goodbye FF, it was wonderful..
- Francesco Cugurra
I use FriendFeed and Facebook so it would be awesome to see FF features in Facebook. Congratulations!
- krzychukula
from IM
judging by the nearly 600 comments as i type this, including my own earlier one, FF could use a Don't Like button as well. or would, if we were going to be using it much longer.
- kelly
Nice, i like to wish you all the best for your new job (and it's really hard, i know). I'm happy, but... don't let die FF!!
- ''Ignobile''
Hope FriendFeed remains open. Love the spirit of FF
- Bernaldo Barrena
Seriously, what a coincidence! Just on Saturday I claimed to be both twitter- and facebook-free. I loved FF product and personally helped to bring at least a dozen of my friends into the community. I'll stick around for a while though.
- ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
This deal makes sense, now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask! Congrats facebook and ff!
- Garin Kilpatrick
I suppose Facebook had to do it, with Twitter and Google Wave as competitor...
- Alexander Kruel
обычные дела. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
Congratulations Friendfeed :D
- paniaguai
Ok. I'll quit friendfeed, so. Goodbye. Ciao
- valerio fiandra
from iPhone
I am noticing a lot of people going to re-esumate their lifestream.fm account now!
- Flavio
I don't think FB acquiring FF is bad. But I don't think it's good either. We'll see. :-) In the meantime, keep up the good work!
- Alexander Gieg
How long until ex-FriendFeed employees start jumping ship from Facebook? I wonder...
- Tyson Key
Thomas Power still believes that Facebook/FF/Linkedin (2010) will be acquired by Apple (2011) and this is a transitional acquisition in the SN market cycle. The world is shifting to Mac, iTunes, iPhones and FB own the next generation. Apple have $29bn of cash on deposit price is not an issue. Google must jump for twitter while MS fiddle in the sticks with Yahoo. BillG will be back at the MS helm 2012.
- Penny Power
:( Happy for FF people, sad for the service. Was going to move from fb to ff this week..
- Martynas
congrats!
- Ronald
thts good!so i can workin both in my Fb online next
- Arini dewi muchtaram
Flavio: never heard of lifestream.fm before, but I'm going to go check it out. I'll reiterate, though, that I'm now shy of any service like this, since it can disappear just as it's getting good. I heard about sweetcron.com last night (via http://ff.im/6pR2w). Maybe it's time to move from centralized to distributed again.
- Don Faulkner
Just finished setting up my lifestream.fm at http://lifestream.fm/dfaulkner. Lifestream does what it says, and no more. FF's search blows lifestream away. FF is more flexible about adding source feeds, but lifestream does fine without the flexibility I suppose. FF still wins, or would, if I thought it would be sticking around. :P
- Don Faulkner
Must See - Hitler blows up over Facebook / FriendFeed - http://friendfeed.com/dffrnt...
- Ahsan Ali
Dave, I'm not happy. That video gave me some much needed comic relief .. after waking up to this news.
- Ahsan Ali
good for you, bad for us
- Zachary Earl Strader
I also hate facebook, not because of their silly quizzes and pokes, but because I suspect they would like to maintain massive user base as the determining factor in choosing a social network. I would love to switch to orkut as I use so many other google services, but I can't because nobody else does. That should not be my criteria.... I thought friendfeed would try to make social networks work together.
- Ru Viljoen
I don't understand why everyone is so negative about the situation?
- orionstarr
@orionstarr - it's like Starbucks buying your neighborhood coffee shop and saying it still cares about the customers. You know it's just not going to be the same as what you've come to love.
- Robin Barooah
Presumably FF will go on the back burner - and the team will try and "fix" Facebook.
- Tim Tyler
sad, sad, sad.
- scott willeke
Congratulations! That's huge. I hope all is well.
- Juan Bruce
bad bad bad
- kakilang
bye bye friendfeed!
- Jonathan Crossland
Why-eee!!! ??? What next?
- Wayne Lewis
I've watched Facebook morph from a relatively organised and well implemented social networking tool into the hulking mess it is now - and I really, really hope that a similar thing doesn't happen here with the inevitable changes this will bring about.
- Leslie Moore
Come on guys, out with the long-term game plan, this is tedious.
- Andrew Eglinton
NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I mean Cool.
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
Teach Facebook how to be FriendFeed. Let the small but fast teach the big but slow. Don't forget what Paul says - don’t be evil.
- whatidiscover
Friendfeed is not as huge as Facebook but you're doing such terrible work on it. Friendfeed is facing so many many problems these days though facebook doesn't seem to have one. Why?
- Sing For Absolution
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- حُسین آفلاین
Never commented on this post. 2.5 years later, from a purely selfish persepective, the best thing that ever happened. It allowed me to drop out of the "Which social network is best", Scobilian crap and get down to the main reason I'm here... to communicate with my friends and share experiences.
- Johnny
Funny. Two years later to the day, Rochelle took me to court to sign our temporary divorce papers. The day after my birthday in both cases. Huzzah!
- Akiva
There's nothing new under the sun.
- Micah
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- polou/indigo_bow
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Posterous adds Google Maps integration – the service now automatically retrieves the geolocation information in your photos and embeds Google Maps below the photo. - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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Robert Scoble: Are you still going to use http://ourdoings.com/ after this update?
- Mike Bracco
you know whats interesting...i can disable comments on this post...I wonder if thats because its in a couple of the rooms i admin
- Zee.
That is pretty sweet.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Oh snap, Scobleizer has a choice now. I might actually have to be nice to him. :-) But seriously, congrats Garry and the rest of the Posterous team on a great feature.
- Bruce Lewis
If anyone auto-posts from Posterous to FF and elsewhere I would love to know if the google map is included int the post - post links to examples here.
- Mike Bracco
It's a shame really, I like to edit and add filters to my iPhone pics rather than post raw with naff lighting. Also, does anyone know if this is by default? Because I don't want my home location being broadcast when posting pics from around the house :-\
- CannonGod
Jake: it should be off by default. you can set what occurs when you post a picture by going to your settings page.
- Mike Bracco
from BuddyFeed
Mike: I can't say I can see where abouts :-S As an idea, could one set a 'safe zone' around your house so that all GeoTags from their are not published, but otherwise they are? That would be neat :)
- CannonGod
Jake, great minds think alike. I implemented that feature months ago: http://ourdoings.com/2009-02
- Bruce Lewis
I'm not sure I understand why someone would want their Posterous photos to be geo-tagged. How does that feature add to the entertainment value of a particular piece of content? Obviously it's informative, but, even with that, I still don't see why someone would want to have maps accompanying all the photos on their blog. Just curious ;-)
- Brad Williamson
Brad: I hear you. To your point, the Google Map doesn't appear below the photo UNTIL you click the location link below the photo to have it expand out.
- Mike Bracco
from BuddyFeed
Is this more for mobile phones?
- Outsanity
Brad is right, the link is quite discreet. Regards necessity, I know an Archaeology friend who wanted this feature as he was keeping a travelling journal. Personally I like the option, though most of what I post doesn't need this extra information - generally I'll be telling people about the place I took the photo as part of the post. I rarely post photos with no accompanying text to make sense of them :-p
- CannonGod
You can now disable comments on your FriendFeed entries using the "Edit" menu. When you disable comments, all existing comments will remain, but no new comments will be allowed.
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You can use the feature to stop conversations that are getting out of hand, or to post entries for which you don't want any discussion. Likes will continue to be allowed when comments are disabled.
- Bret Taylor
the FBI is here to arrest the MOB
- iTbay
You should call it Extended Twitter mode
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
END OF THREAD
- Josh Haley
friendfeed turns into a forum...
- Hüseyin Mert
Awesome. Thanks FriendFeed! Can you re-enable comments later? (Edit: yes, you can.)
- Mark Trapp
Don't make me use the B& Hammer!
- CannonGod
I certainly hope 'Breaking News' has a sense of humor.
- John Craft
@Mark: temporarily "suspend" comments?
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I'm not sure how I feel about this one.
- Gunnybear ™
Chris: yeah, like when you're trying to use the first few comments for your own commentary. It looks like you can. Eeeeeeeeee!
- Mark Trapp
I think it helps those people who feel they are being made fun of in their posts.
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Mark: yep, re-enabling involves just clicking a link
- Bret Taylor
+1 Gunny. It seems like an interesting and somewhat useful idea on it's own, but I can see many applications for it that aren't exactly in the interests of everyone, or even specific people, for what it's worth...
- Tyson Key
Sweet, thanks Bret. One bug I'm noticing is that if I disable comments on my own feed (that is, from http://friendfeed.com/itafroma), my picture shows up next to the entry and doesn't go away until I refresh.
- Mark Trapp
Mark: thanks for the bug report
- Bret Taylor
Bret, it looks like right now it doesn't show that comments are disabled until a user tries to comment, then it errors and says that comments are disabled. Not sure if that is widespread or if I just had a weird interaction.
- joey
Of course, the existing moderation options were already a double-edged sword. "Sticky" posts in rooms seems like a good extension to this, on the flip-side, though.
- Tyson Key
I can see the use for this, but that doesn't mean I like it.
- Shawn Kirsch
Actually, it may be displaying properly for me now. EDIT: I see, it just isn't updated in realtime ;)
- joey
While I welcome this addition to the many useful features on FF, I do feel that you should see all comments on a subject, as this enriches our experience.
- Kevin J Hatton
YAY!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Well done Bret, I will never use it though because I am a social creature
- Mark
so can we call this the 'arrington feature'?
- Chris Heath
Well arrington has yet to come back as promised
- Mark
is there any way to disable commenting from all posts in a specific group?
- Zee.
Zee: no, this feature is entry-by-entry
- Bret Taylor
Good to see you are still able to re-share the entries with disabled comments.
- Kol Tregaskes
@Bret dang...is that something you'll consider adding?
- Zee.
I actually want to turn this feature on automatically for any item older than 30 days as a defense against spam.
- Robert Scoble
can we get @scoble the moon on a stick too ;)
- Phill Price
Phill: hey, if Arrington can get a feature, we all should be able to get features! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert++
- Rahsheen the Dream
Scoble got thousands of people to join Friendfeed! How about a little love for the big guy!
- Mark
I see the main use for such a feature as being a way to post 'announcement' or 'stick post' entries but we'd really need the comment box back with the share box and the option to disable comments from there, i.e. before it's posted.
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Robert. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
You know you have influence when a company will modify their product to get you to use it again ;)
- Mark
Bret: the error message you get if you try to comment on a comment blocked post takes you to the generic FAQ page - perhaps it should go to something specific explaining the blocked comments feature.
- Mike Bracco
feature request: i want FF to flow in a <marquee> format instead of a stream! (kidding)
- sean percival
Is this an attempt to make FriendFeed more like a blogging platform? It sort of feels that way to me.
- Mitch
@scoble I'm trying to think of a feature from me- but I can't!
- Phill Price
Agree with Mike, that could do with fixing, Bret. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bret or anyone: Where can you find a list of people you've blocked?
- Myrna
Myrna - Ssshhh - don't speak of such a thing... blocking is an unforgivable sin here!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
But you know on twitter or fb you can unblock. Someone that I didn't know came on a great discussion about kabbalah and said F**k kabbalah so I blocked him.
- Myrna
Myrna, a sin maybe but you can find out here: http://ffblockr.com/ :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
myrna, http://friendfeed.com/setting... is what you're looking for... goes back all the way
- Chris Heath
I think the addition of this feature may warrant the need to add a dislike button.
- Mark Krynsky
Thanks Kol!
- Myrna
Jannnifer: I TOTALLY disagree with you. Blocking on FriendFeed is a very important thing to do to keep your view clear of jerks, spammers, and other people you just don't want interacting with your content. I don't let jerks into my living room and the block feature is how I keep my online living room clean, too.
- Robert Scoble
LOOOOL you better watch out if FF grows too fast, we're gonna be using the block button a LOT
- Myrna
Robert, did you see why I blocked this character. Jerimiah probably would have blocked him from using FF.
- Myrna
@Kol - Looks like FFBlockr is broken/down at the moment...
- Tyson Key
@Tyson It seems so
- Roberto
I guess I can see the need for this in some respects, but doubt I'd ever use it. The same way I feel about Blocking......someone would have to be really destructive to get me to do that. I just hope we don't end up with more and more "tools" that stop the natural flow and interaction on FF.
- Bonnie Foster
Chris, Thx it worked!
- Myrna
So Bonnie, would you block a FF stranger who came onto a discussion and said F**k the subject or your discussion?
- Myrna
Bret: I think this feature should let the entry owner to be able to comment without having to re-enable comments (and shutting them down again after that)
- alieb
Myrna....not unless he/she was such a pest that they did this kind of thing all the time.....kept making negative comments, or tried to continually start something. If it was someone who just happened to pop in and make their comment I would chalk it up to them being a jerk, having a bad day, I don't know, maybe just hating that subject. People just aren't going to always agree with everything you say. :)
- Bonnie Foster
Scoble and Krynsky are right, options to turn off comments after 30 days, and a dislike option are needed. Dislikes should be capped at 5 a day though.
- Shawn Kirsch
from BuddyFeed
Bonnie, you mean if I came on one of your threads and just dumped a FU, you would just brush it off? It's negative energy. I don't know about you but I try to keep things positive. Btw, you can disagree and stay positive.
- Myrna
Myrna..not disagreeing that it isn't negative energy, and yes, you can disagree with someone and stay positive. Would I do it, of course not....but everyone is different, and some people are jerks. One FU however, would not crush me, or for that matter, destroy my thread if everyone else was commenting with a positive attitude.
- Bonnie Foster
Too cool. Thank you. :)
- Meryn Stol
Just been reading about this over on Techcrunch. Sounds a reasonable idea, although it will be interesting to see how it works out in practice
- George Hall (Australia)
Ok I understand the need to stopping comment when the Mob starts forming, you know the tar and feather, pitchfork and everything, that makes some sense. What I don't understand is why you would post an entry if you didn't want any discussion. If you don't want it discussed then don't post it.
- Kim Landwehr
I am a group admin, I post the room guidelines in a thread and close the comments so that I can stick the thread url in the group description and new users will be able to read a short and to the point list instead of a 150+ comments thread. Sounds good, Kim?
- alieb
Ok, alieb that makes sense I was thinking more of a regular post, wasn't thinking of a room guideline situation.
- Kim Landwehr
You're welcom Myrna, i remembered a thread from a while ago with that link in it and just did a few searches until i found it - i can't find anywhere on the help/faq the friendfeed.com/settings/modifications (for your history of subscriptions and blocks as well) also i can't find the imaginary friends feature linked anywhere in the help/faq either (/settings/imaginary) -- private groups...
more...
- Chris Heath
Kim, also - if we had this feature back in march scoble wouldn't have had to butcher his post to stop people from trying to enter a contest that was long over http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... - also this helps with spam as a popular post can be preserved without having to be attended to to fight of spammers who would try to latch to a popular search result
- Chris Heath
Bret, I like the timed idea some, but having the owner always able to comment seems right.
- Chris Heath
Robert, I don't see 'blocking' to be important but then I don't have jerks even trying to get into my living room so have no need. ;-) Been here well over a year and yet to block anyone. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Tyson, darn. Sorry I didn't check it before posting.
- Kol Tregaskes
Keep it comin' Bret. Someone ... PLEASE write a Friendfeed guide before I have to ?! (Although ... I'm still lost in the halls looking for what used to be rooms ?! :)
- Charlie Anzman
I believe they call those Groups now, unless they're renamed in a future iteration.
- Tyson Key
Thank you Tyson .... :)
- Charlie Anzman
This is a great idea Johnny and it adds a balance to the whole situation. People who just want to use FF to promote themselves with no discussion could be easily hidden from view this way.
- Gunnybear ™
well then you might as well block them, right?
- Chris Heath
@Johnny Worthington, I am totally right there with ya on that one. Why bother reading something on FF that I can't respond to? Isn't FF for conversation?
- (dot)lizard kelly
me no likey
- BEX
Arrington won't have to see it on his account everytime he logs in now
- Mark
Because he secretly loves getting attention. Not many people know this about him.
- Mitch
I like this ability, but agree with Johnny W on what he says on not wanting to read what he cannot respond to.
- Rick Cogley
I get your point Johnny, i was kind of joking, but also kinda serious.
- Chris Heath
Robert Scoble: Oh No! I was was being sarcastic and kidding with Myrna about blocking being an unforgivable sin!! I agree 100% with what you said above -----> "Blocking on FriendFeed is a very important thing to do to keep your view clear of jerks, spammers, and other people you just don't want interacting with your content. I don't let jerks into my living room and the block feature is...
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- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Thanks. I can't imagine ever using it, but thanks all the same.
- Steven Perez
Gosh, I hope Robert Scoble will be able to see my last comment since this thread is so long!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Interesting, but what about a 'Generate Comments' option for those us that are, shall we say, boring and get little to no activity and want to seem like they are interesting people too. ;->
- Grant Bierman
I fear that this addition will pave the way for more one way transmission. Friendfeed is about sharing and interaction. I might actually have to start using the block funtionality if I start seeing rant or mlm posts.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Excellent change.
- Son of Groucho
If you want to hide comment disabled posts preemptively and user scripts are an option for you, take a look at this script update I released tonight: (only affects you, and only in effect while running the script) http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah
TechCrunchで報じられていた「梅毒問題」への対策の一つ、荒れ始めたスレッドをコメント不可にする機能が実装されたわけね。仕事が早いなぁ。 #friendfeed
- Sakurai.Catshop
from iPhone
Le Speaky Le English
- Mark
oo yeni özellik gelmiş.. süper..
- Profesyonel Öğrenci
Yorumları kapatma özelliği.
- Can Turanlı
thanks - to "enable" comments, there is a direct link - to disable... it is necessary to click Edit and select the option... Why? a different design?
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Kishore, having 'enable' as a direct link serves as a visual reminder that you've disabled comments on that item. Plus you wouldn't want 'disable' to be a direct link, as you might click it by accident.
- FFing Enigma
@Matthew - You can disable it, if you're the owner of the post, and at present, it's possible for users to edit their comments after comment freezing, as it's implemented now.
- Tyson Key
this feature seems in accordance with existing moderation options available to post owners
- Mike Chelen
Noticed this one. Good!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
BILLIE JEANS BEST EVER MOONWALK - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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