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A practical scalable distributed B-tree - http://www.hpl.hp.com/techrep...
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"Moreover, our algorithm is conceptually simple: we use transactions to manipulate B-tree nodes so that clients need not use complicated concurrency and locking protocols used in prior work. To execute these transactions quickly, we rely on three techniques: (1) We use optimistic concurrency control, so that B-tree nodes are not locked during transaction execution, only during commit. This well-known technique works well because B-trees have little contention on update. (2) We replicate inner nodes at clients. These replicas are lazy, and hence lightweight, and they are very helpful to re- duce client-server communication while traversing the B-tree. (3) We replicate version numbers of inner nodes across servers, so that clients can validate their transactions efficiently, without creating bottlenecks at the root node and other upper levels in the tree."
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, I think many of us are going to trust your opinion on this white paper. All Greek to me.
- Jon-Paul Bussoli
All I understand is that it is in my best interests to cheer for the way you access B-tree nodes in order to continue to enjoy friendfeed reliably. Go friendfeed algorithm go!
- Jon-Paul Bussoli
What, no comparison to BigTable?
- ⓞnor
@nor It's really not the same thing, unless somehow you're using a distributed B-tree on hash collision, however, if you're getting that many collisions, then the hash algorithm is probably wrong or your key width is too small. Then again, I really don't know what I'm talking about.
- Eric Florenzano
Curious as to what problem Paul is looking at... My default data toolkit these days would probably include sqlite for in-memory data, sharded bdb's for btrees that are too big for memory, and hbase/hypertable for a distributed store. I wonder where this fits in...
- DeWitt Clinton
Ok this is a really *nerdy* post! :*)
- Susan Beebe
DeWitt, I just thought that it looked like an interesting paper. As for the several solutions you mention, I don't know that any of them have distributed transactions (maybe bdb, but that doesn't really work).
- Paul Buchheit
B-Trees and Prof. Bayer http://wwwbayer.informatik.tu-... - would be interesting to know what he'd say, unfortunately he's retired a few years ago. Used to be fairly approachable in all matters B-Tree.
- Mustafa K. Isik
@DeWitt - no room for a traditional SQL based database except as an in memory database?
- Nick Lothian
we had designed and implemented distributed tree control, but transactions were considered "too much" for near-real-time, and they were already in protocol... the rest you know as xGSN boxes in GPRS/3G/HSDPA - dynamic routing for mobile packet networks. I'd left team in 2003...
- A.T.
@paul - I'll readily admit to being out of my depth, but it depends on what the definition of "distribution transaction" is. With bdb a combination of local transactions and guaranteed consistent replication you can approximate a distributed transaction at the cost of speed. See http://www.oracle.com/technol... and http://www.oracle.com/technol.... But those won't work across bdb shards.
- DeWitt Clinton
@paul - A table-based distributed store can do this via a lock on entity groups, where entity groups are defined by relationship formed by instances of similar models that belong to the same parent-based ancestry chain. This is how App Engine transactions work -- see http://code.google.com/appengi... and http://code.google.com/appengi.... Ping ryan for some background there. Not sure if hbase or hypertable support this via their api.
- DeWitt Clinton
@nlothian - I dunno. Offline maybe?
- DeWitt Clinton
DeWitt: have you ever successfully used BDB with millions of newly written entries and transaction support turned on? We kept getting transaction logs with millions of entries that were never consumed, so restarts would take hours as it replayed the logs. Configuring BDB to work for large databases is insanely esoteric to say the least, and it may be impossible to get it to work acceptably in some cases.
- Bret Taylor
@bret -- no, definitely not with large databases. We used bdb's heavily at my last company, though. Aggressive sharding is the key if you want to support either transactions or replication, which matches intuition about how it is implemented.
- DeWitt Clinton
But your comment about millions of entries makes me wonder about which data is getting written to which place. I suspect a lot of problems like this end up with the bulk of the data being written transactionless + replicated to a table-based store (or a transactionless bdb), and only a small subset of the data gets transaction support. So multiple datastores. But you guys know this better than I do, so why am I rambling? : )
- DeWitt Clinton
DeWitt, you can also look into all the trouble that Gaia had with bdb - I simply wouldn't trust any fancy bdb functionality.
- Paul Buchheit
Also, AppEngine transactions are limited to a single "entity group", which I assume means a single BigTable tablet. Essentially, they solved distributed transactions by not having them -- all transactions must be local to a single tablet. From the docs: "Every entity belongs to an entity group, a set of one or more entities that can be manipulated in a single transaction. Entity group relationships tell App Engine to store several entities in the same part of the distributed network."
- Paul Buchheit
@paul - yup, that's the trade-off. Entity groups ensure locality, locality makes transactions fast(er). Same old lever problem -- speed of consistency vs. scope of the transactions.
- DeWitt Clinton
DeWitt, there's nothing wrong with having local transactions -- I'm just pointing out that they aren't distributed transactions.
- Paul Buchheit
Point taken. I got way off-topic regarding your original post anyway.
- DeWitt Clinton
The design seems reasonable. The only part that is under-specified is the way they switch from a master node to a slave. I'm curious why they don't use transactions to maintain replicas but instead rely on some unspecified master/slave replication scheme.
- Private Sanjeev
Ok trying out friendfeed....any suggestions?
Jason Huebel, Tyson Key, funkyboy and 162 other people liked this
try streamy!!!
- Alejandra Benevento
I am trying it to. Hope you will follow me.
- Charlotte Frum
Just a request; can you teach me once you've learned, I'm still learning Facebook! I'm good on twitter...lol, love ya DM
- Justin Dee
Had the same idea at nearly the exact same time... Great minds... ;o)
- bethany
I love facebook. Had trouble at first but love it now. The games are fun.
- Charlotte Frum
Make a theme in your settings :) FriendFeed is much better than twitter.
- Sam Guzman
Yeah! Vote and RT for @BodeSunValley for cutest puppy! :) thanks! http://www.cutestdogcompetition.com/vote...
- Lauren Zondag
Well, give it a good go, and you will love the way it all works, compared to twitter, other than that, it may seem a bit of a lot to deal with at first, but there is so many threads of help and advice here, it won't take long to get to grips with ;o) Welcome by the way... leave hubby outside tho lol.. friendfeed may crash! ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Okay I'm here too! Seems cool, have you dicovered anything new and different?
- Tracy Ferry
How are Demi? What are you working on?
- Charlotte Frum
Oh, you will see this is way better for conversations.
- Sam Guzman
trying it too it beteer then twitter you can see the feeds instead of waiting great thank you mrs moore
- antony march
It's like chat. Right? can anyone read it or only people following you,etc.?
- Charlotte Frum
Charlotte: Yes, anyone can read it. It's different than chat in that it doesn't dissappear. Conversations are accessible months later and with their own url. Make sense?
- Sam Guzman
oh. i like this more! interaction!
- Keilah Sanchez
me too, i just join this friendfeed right now!
- charlene chua
Oh thanks Sam. That's great! Love it. Hope it catches on.
- Charlotte Frum
demi, lets start a secret chain.... i'll say one of mine and you contine. i borrow cleaning gear from my apartment complex & replace before anyone sees :)
- Keilah Sanchez
Start following people on here... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Uh!!!! Oh nevermind, I just can't...lol
- Bill Heslin
Holden, considering it just posted to her twitter account, it seems like it is.
- Sam Guzman
Holden.. yeah it is. ;o) hopefully more "ordinary" people join.. lol.. no offence to anyone here... :o) :P Just.. you know what I mean ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
hook up your twitter, facebook, blog sites, whatever. This is so much cleaner and neater.
- Kimba Rudd
I'M JUST TRYING FRIENDFEED ITS NICE!?I LIKE IT?
- Rosa
This is great Ashton gets me addicted to Twitter and now Demi gets me hooked on this LOL you guys are great <3 to you both
- Jessica Williams
Hey Rob, I know what you mean. I wish more people would use FF. Too bad it just got bought by Facebook!
- Sam Guzman
like it
- antony march
yeah.. 100% right there Holden, and she gets to keep tweets together ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
This site is great ! I love this. This is going to catch on no troubles
- Jessica Williams
Demi, Welcome to FF and all the new FF'rs in this thread, Check out http://friendfeed.com/friendf... for some great starter tips. Oh and listen to Holden...He is the God of FF :)
- Bill Heslin
Thanks Bill !! checking it out now :)
- Jessica Williams
I thought you would like that Holden :)
- Bill Heslin
i don't get this?
- Tina Haight
what don't you get Tina?
- Rob Sellen :o)
What makes me laugh is that everyone is loving friendfeed all of a sudden, when it's been around for like two years, as awesome as ever. No one knew about it though! I really think it could have been a Twitter killer if the right people joined.
- Sam Guzman
i'm not sure- it doesn't tell me who is who
- Tina Haight
Really this was around 2 years ago?
- Jessica Williams
You are right Sam... it WILL be too... if it stays..IF faceache don't drop it that is ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
is demi seeing this right now? i don't get it. lol
- Tina Haight
she can see this if she is watching it
- Jessica Williams
so it's just like a chat room?
- Tina Haight
tina.. what you mean?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Sam, I think all the tweets that generated from here about the Facebook buyout is bringing more people in now. Unfortunately as we know, it's a little too late..but we are going to hang in there... :)
- Bill Heslin
NO tina.. its like twitter but in REAL time... and threaded.. demi WILL see this.. then go.. WTF?? how did that happen.. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
so essentially it is a chat room that mated with twitter?
- Jessica Williams
Bill... I think it was PART of the plan.. why techcrunch broke it.. and why they sold to faceache.. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Or she is watching this right now going WTF?? and laughing
- Jessica Williams
This is great i love this lol
- Jessica Williams
i just got here 16 min ago i have demi and ashton since that is how i got here through her twitter
- Jessica Williams
jessica... Tina... sub to me.. oh.. just saw holden post.. and him ;o) then just ask if ya get lost. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Im working on it kk
- Jessica Williams
Real time rocks...Oh shit...I can't keep banging the drum! Or can I? LOL sure I can....
- Bill Heslin
how to sub.. hover over our names... use the pop up..
- Rob Sellen :o)
ok ok im subin im subin !!
- Jessica Williams
how do i find my friend list
- Lynn
now.. click do you ONLY have this post in your home tab?? if so.. you see it as it grows.. i opened this thread in new tab alone.. do that by clicking the TIME stamp under demis pic.. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
never heard of this, but I am willing to try new things.
- Nita Wertz Ernst
lynn.. do you sub to anyone yet?
- Rob Sellen :o)
k rob thanks i got it woots i subbed !!!
- Jessica Williams
yes several
- Lynn
but there is no list like twitter
- Lynn
Welcome
- Alejandro
Ok folks, the difference between friend feed and a chat room is that a chatroom doesn't aggregate all your social media activity. friendfeed pulls in your activity from a bunch of social media sites, like youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. but also provides the functionality of twitter and a chat room. So basically it's your social media life on steroids. Very powerful.
- Sam Guzman
Lynn... on the right hand side.. is your friends...
- Rob Sellen :o)
demi?!?! lol
- Tina Haight
thanks rob & Holden I'll try that
- Lynn
Very cool. If you like PostSecret, you should check out www.SecretRegrets.com.
- SecretRegrets
Demi started this great convo and walked away :( lol
- Jessica Williams
I'm still new at this but it's growin on me, thanks for all the help
- Lynn
piss off with the spam crap.... everyone.. you can BLOCK or hide idiots like secretregrets... ironic.. you will regret the spam.. lol.. NO_ONE will see it.. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
hmmm
- Sparkles
she could be reading and learning like the rest of us
- Lynn
jessica... yeah.. but wit till she pops in.. she will go..WTF!!!!! how the hell.. hang on.. why are all these people chatting!!! ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
didn't facebook purchase or absorb friendfeed??
- Mercedes(Chris)Ozcan
in real time...lol....
- Rob Sellen :o)
lol Rob
- Jessica Williams
no kidding
- Jessica Williams
mercedes.. yes, they did.. two nights ago
- Rob Sellen :o)
how do you block or hide spam
- Lynn
Jessica.. you can also send replies to the tweets to titter from here...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Yup figured that out already thanks :)
- Jessica Williams
lynn.. to block him.. CLICK his name.. block ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Engage other people in conversation. Best advice I can give.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from fftogo
Lynn. You will not find too much Spam on FF
- Bill Heslin
That then HIDES all of his comments.. thats WHY this place is SPAM free.. and we would like to KEEP it that way.. so use the block with spammers... they will soon go back to...twitter lol ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I really wish we could get a bunch of celebs on here and keep friendfeed from disappearing!
- Sam Guzman
i'm waiting for her- this is my excitement for the night. hah
- Tina Haight
done thanks again this is kinda confusing but fun
- Lynn
EVERYONE who follows her who is on here.. should tweet http://bit.ly/8dSsK << that to her ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
What's the difference between this and twitter??
- Annette Baldwin
real time
- Jessica Williams
And yea i was really hoping to just say hello to her i hope she pops on soon
- Jessica Williams
OOHHH thanks
- Annette Baldwin
annete... apples and pips... lol apples being this place ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
sry holden didnt mean to step on ur toes :)
- Jessica Williams
yep he gone
- Lynn
Im on here now too!
- Samantha Scheideler
anyone gonna TWEET that link to her???
- Rob Sellen :o)
welcome Samantha !
- Jessica Williams
Well, this should be interesting...
- Michael McKean
http://bit.ly/8dSsK <<< tweet it...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Thanks jessica williams
- Samantha Scheideler
:) ^5 to u holden
- Jessica Williams
Blamedrewscancer.com - pls spread the word
- Liza
are there any size limits to the characters typed?
- Lynn
Just in time for the big moving sale! Enjoy like there is no tomorrow!
- Martha
Rob, so when you post to twitter it auto posts to ff or vice versa
- Mercedes(Chris)Ozcan
i have no idea jsut started. i lik this its like twitter but alsso like a chat room in a way.
- Samantha Scheideler
lia.. don't treat this place like twitter... drew USES this place, and that word gets spread ;o) now I #blamedrewscancer for you doing that ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
good I hate getting cut off and I'm no good at the new shorthand
- Lynn
yes merc..
- Rob Sellen :o)
GREAT - @drew is on here, but I am spreading the word as long as he is not on the thread. I #blamedrewscancer that he is missing this.
- Liza
huh?
- Tina Haight
rob s and holden !got it thanks - what else is there to know?
- Mercedes(Chris)Ozcan
No i havent only Demi Moore. I literally just started this im learning how to use it still.
- Samantha Scheideler
I don't believe it is Demi.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
don't believe what is demi? her twitter?
- Tina Haight
Robert: it posted to her twitter account..
- Sam Guzman
this is Demi :)
- Jessica Williams
lots merc... just have a look around.. you can create list of people here.. import stuff.. click your settings under your name on the top right.. have a PEEK ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Either Demi is reading the FF beginners group, or she just hasn't figured out how to read FF yet, and doesn't see all this wonderful Real time conversation that can't happen on Twitter..But anyway, back to my regular feed have fun everyone. Any questions...Just ask Holden LOL
- Bill Heslin
it is her.... i knowe for a fact
- Samantha Scheideler
OK I believe! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
She brought us all here from Twitter
- Jessica Williams
and then abandoned us. haha
- Tina Haight
ha.. Robert is.. wrong.. (for once he would argue) ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I know :( but im sure she had a reason i imagine she is a busy woman
- Jessica Williams
The biggest user on FF
- Sam Guzman
will do!
- Mercedes(Chris)Ozcan
lol i know right. just like ashton jsut posted on twitter and i responded to somthing he aid and nothig yet
- Samantha Scheideler
Uhm, where is the Friendfeed crew - wish they would chime in since they got the payday.
- Liza
Holden... don't tell them that... its Alex... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I just had a great dinner in San Antonio
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
liza... they are all users here...
- Rob Sellen :o)
oops sorry for all the typos i have acrylics on
- Samantha Scheideler
What you have then Robert?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Demi, the major difference to me is tha FF is more engaging; if you play along. Meaning, don't post something and then not interact with other users. Go back to Twitter if you don't want to make an effort.
- Chad Gesser
from BuddyFeed
http://bit.ly/8dSsK <<< post that to her on twitter
- Rob Sellen :o)
Aww Chad that wasnt nice at all
- Jessica Williams
Agreed Jessica...Chad Boo!!!! :) It takes time to get it...give her a chance..
- Bill Heslin
Ya and if she is sitting back watching trying to figure out whens a good time to say something to us all that isnt going to make her want to talk
- Jessica Williams
Robert, do you think we can save FF???
- Sam Guzman
Chad - that is wrong - I got that SO many times - you guys never do it to girls
- Liza
Welcome!
- Stephan Miller
ignore ppl who say go back to Twitter
- Liza
Chad.. please don't go down that road.. a few have done it..I have made mistakes here before.. they stick... look at the spammer earlier in this thread.. ;o) CLICK the timestamp under demi's name here and open this thread in its own tab ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
yayy, demi B-) ff is the place for all the action.
- Gtp19
liza... lol.. you start using this place, and you won't want to go to twitter so much ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I am tired of ppl saying go back to Twitter - get over yourself or I will say go back to atari
- Liza
Later Holden...
- Bill Heslin
yep spammers don't last round here
- Lynn
Yes, try Streamy.....
- Janet Fouts
I'm leaving too. I hope Demi comes back and sees how fun FF can be. Bye everyone!
- Sam Guzman
thanks Holden
- Lynn
and to do that use the link in the top bar on this page... email is direct too.. ;o) yeah you can post a DM from your email too.. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
what is streamy?
- Tina Haight
LIZA.. can I have a go on your atari? :P
- Rob Sellen :o)
tina.. http://streamy.com ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
sounds dirty, lol
- Tina Haight
Rob - you can,but you have not been an ass to me.
- Liza
Tina - dirty is fun.
- Liza
Geeks will not tell you go to Twitter if you are dirty.
- Liza
http://bit.ly/8dSsK << will as MANY of you tweet that to Demi.... :o) get her over here to see it n action... while you are all busy here
- Rob Sellen :o)
lol Liza.. thanks... :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
i don't know, rob, my husband and friends make fun of me when i tweet @ celebrities. hhaha
- Tina Haight
LOOK at all this thread... how many comments... in less than 45 mins...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Everyone makes fun of me, ignore it
- Liza
Tina.. we just want to OPEN her eyes.... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Greetings new FriendFeed users. Welcome to the playground.
- Robert Kenney
WTH, Demi might as well save friendfeed from closing.. bring back demi.
- Gtp19
Hey Demi..I just signed up for FriendFeed the other night. Not sure what to think about it either... hmmm
- Melisa
so.. who needs people subbing to them???? ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Robert, I don't either.
- Martha
so how do I tweet it to her from here?
- Lynn
Its quite funny either way. True or not.
- Matt G
go to your home page... post it in the comments.. with your @mrsaplusk too.. click the CC to twitter . post ;o) as long as you have added your twitter username here that is...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Beginners can find help here: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... and feel free to ask anyone!
- Robert Kenney
I don't know, just gonna feel it out.....
- Brenda Erdman Velasquez
done but I had to do it from tweetdeck, I will keep workin on this though
- Lynn
Think of it as the place where all of your online stuff goes. You see the stuff, say, that your friends on Twitter are liking on YouTube. You can then talk about it, favorite it, etc. just like you do on Facebook. It's a mashup of all of your Web activity in one place.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Lynn... you will like it here, you will notice whenever anything gets commented on, or liked, it jumps to the top of the page...
- Rob Sellen :o)
The key to FriendFeed is following me. :)
- Andrew
She'll never see this but I just have to comment knowing that I interacted with Demi Moore. ;)
- Keith - @tsudo
It's amazing that with all of Demi's followers that she doesn't get more people over here. I'm noticing a trend: not many people engage on Tweets.
- Robert Scoble
ahh that is why nothing is in the order it was posted in
- Lynn
Be sure to add the bookmarklet to your browser. Makes posting to FriendFeed much easier.
- Robert Kenney
It's nice to see so many new people joining up; welcome to everyone! I was going to suggest some of you check out the FriendFeed for Beginners group but I see someone else has already done that. Otherwise, the best suggestion I can offer you all is to do a search for some things that interests you and follow the people that posted them.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Subscribe to Holden.
- Gus
Robert..I have noticed that on twitter they tend to struggle..... celebs would be in the element on here..
- Rob Sellen :o)
thanks for that Andrew I knew there was a right way to do this haha
- Lynn
Well I apologize to those that took offense to my initial comment. That's just my take: show me some substance. Welcome Demi!
- Chad Gesser
from BuddyFeed
http://bit.ly/8dSsK <<< IF more of you tweeted that to her with @herusername she may take notice...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Nice to see her here. Yet in this service, celebrities need to participate on the conversation which is what makes this different than Twitter.
- Manuel Mas
It would be deliciously ironic if the buyout that everyone was worried about was the making of FF!
- Matt G
Try not to get all caught up in out techno-babble, but a lot of learning here.
- professor daddyo
Everyone's new at some point. The more the better.
- Robert Kenney
lol.. chad.. the point is.. she probably not come back since posting.. but she will do.. and THEN realise what she missed..
- Rob Sellen :o)
Holden: come now. She has 1.7 million followers. This place should be going absolutely crazy if they were very engaged.
- Robert Scoble
Steve: that's what I meant to say! lol
- Chad Gesser
from BuddyFeed
oh demi- it would make my night if you said something on here to us. :)
- Tina Haight
I like old people.
- Michael McKean
I agree.. but then, how many actually click her links... not many i bet.
- Rob Sellen :o)
hmmm. can't wait here all night, demi!
- Tina Haight
Scoble: engage, engage, engage. That to me is the point, which is very attractive about FF. Might I add connection?
- Chad Gesser
from BuddyFeed
start adding all your other social accounts (if you have any), that's the real kick to friendfeed (at least for me), an all in one feed
- Gubatron
welcome chad, we like that much better
- Lynn
Well I was hoping she would talk with us. Oh well.
- Ben Hanten
Robert Scoble: Most Tweets aren't very... engaging! :)
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
anyone watch big brother?
- Tina Haight
nope hells kitchen
- Lynn
NO.. not that shit bb.. not on here lol
- Rob Sellen :o)
oh i love hells kitchen too
- Tina Haight
leave big brother on twitter eh... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I saw that Rob :)
- Mattb4rd
haha! but it's such a great show. and i am still excited about tonight's show. ;)
- Tina Haight
welcome. where is ashton? :P
- Oğuz Serdar
we don't need bb crap here .. I get away from tv and twitter to escape it!!!
- Rob Sellen :o)
Demi just posted to twitter I tried to tell her we were all waiting for her but...
- Lynn
we don't need ashton either ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
getting a little testie arent we
- Lynn
Ashton is here http://friendfeed.com/theateam
- Matt G
I think they come as a set
- Lynn
lol
- Lynn
no... I am just sayng.. both in one night would crash the place lol... if they started using it that is...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Ashton was on the Dan Patrick Show today and was hilarious. Gained a bunch of new respect for him.
- Ben Hanten
They could not crash FF....FF FTW....
- Bill Heslin
haha they do generate a bit of traffic
- Lynn
Ashton's FF account is a twitter dump...no engagement...Damn..I got sucked back into this conversation again...lol
- Bill Heslin
I didn't like the way he did things at twitter at all... told him as much too..
- Rob Sellen :o)
i'm not gonna lie- i'm a pretty big deal too.
- Tina Haight
ok i'm lying.
- Tina Haight
ark at you tina... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
;) i DO have 88 followers on twitter. on my way to the million mark
- Tina Haight
wow.. :o) doing good... follow that many on here tonight and see what the power of this place is like ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I never had heard of it before but I'm trying now. Is it fairly new?
- Barry Winters
from iPhone
lol
- Lynn
barry.. no... not so new..as much as sold..lol ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
suggestions? Yeah start chatting back while you still just have 175 subscribers :D
- BairdWilliamson
Welcome to all the new visitors. Barry, this is about 18 months old, but lots of new features were turned on recently.
- Robert Scoble
alright- i am giving up hope on demi coming. have been staring at a computer screen all day and night for work.
- Tina Haight
night everyone!
- Tina Haight
night nice chatting
- Lynn
What?! The Scobelizer is a doubter as well? Tack it on to the list...
- iamkhayyam
Yeah, welcome to all... :o) any problems you only have to ask..ask ANYONE lol ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I'm not a doubter anymore! :-)
- Robert Scoble
nice meeting you tina.. night. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Haha! There you go... she's Verified :)
- iamkhayyam
make a group, add all your favorite sites.
- Tyson
What do you mean, Demi, "any suggestions?" What are you looking for? And why aren't you engaging, er, talking with us here?
- Robert Scoble
lmao..... good one robert.. shame she missed it happen in real time lol :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
lol
- Gtp19
Hi Demi.You're a little late to the party. We are all worried they are going to shut us out of this nice little cozy club called Friendfeed and lead us back to the shark-infested waters of Facebook. We are still makin' hay while the sun shines. :-)
- Karma Martell
Well, if she's turned off real-time she might not even be seeing the comments yet, Robert. Or perhaps she made the post and left for dinner (west coast and all) and will check back later.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
...cool! welcome to FF. did you beat Ashton here?
- .LAG liked that
this is like a really really private party with only 198 following on friendfeed...Demi leave the party already?
- Rex Gradeless
This is just too cool.
- Sherrie Belken
http://bit.ly/8dSsK << RT that in reply to her... see if she gets to see it at least ONE bloody time lol...
- Rob Sellen :o)
It seems she doesn't care the comments.
- Oğuz Serdar
perhaps just not aware they are here ...
- Tom Horn
Engaging?! Seriously Scoble? Haha... that's a funny one. One msg on FriendFeed and then she's off for some Kabbalah teachings.
- iamkhayyam
probably Demi doesn like to be part of comments, rather she likes to make the headlines, i mean the posts, lol :D
- Gtp19
+1 Robert
- Robert Kenney
ok gettin mean now gotta go
- Lynn
LoL Hi Demi... Welcome to the FF Mob! Now go and spread some hate </extremesarcasm>
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Lynn: see ya, sorry about the meanness. But it would be nice to see Demi actually chat for a few minutes so she could get a sense of the power of friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Demi: I see you're here. And welcome to all the new people on FriendFeed. I'd like to see you (and Ashton) take part in the conversations here. ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
aggreed but bein mean isn't gonna make it happen
- Lynn
Hahah! ++1000 tehKenny
- Bill Heslin
Maybe she is too awestruck at the magnificence of friendfeed to type. I am imagining her sitting there frozen with her mouth hanging open watching all of this going on.
- April Russo (app103)
yes, we would love to have Demi here.. long live friendfeed... i mean until its shut down!!
- Gtp19
Well, you're about to get a billion responses of course, but you should hook up feeds from other sites you use too, not just Twitter. Maybe a YouTube channel too? Or Flickr?
- Ciaoenrico
while wondering why twitter just..sits there lol
- Rob Sellen :o)
April: That makes sense
- Matt G
Welcome indeed. You should add more of your feeds to your FF account
- Vinko
sub to some of the others here in this thread.. you all get to learn this place together then...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Maybe she's thinking how on earth she's meant to keep up with the comments, posting from her blackberry/iphone/othermobiledevice :P
- 1x29
@April That could be it. FF in Helvetica mode is hypnotic ...
- Tom Horn
Thanks for that @iconic88 :) Always a good reminder... #love is all there is :)
- iamkhayyam
Welcome to FF!
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
lol @ Tom
- Gtp19
Thank you iconic88
- Sherrie Belken
FF in any mode is hypnotic. I haven't been able to pull myself away for many months.
- April Russo (app103)
OK, predictions on how many comments this post will top out at? I'm going for 2,000.
- 1x29
Hmm .. no , I think we are done. This is probably the last one ...
- Tom Horn
Now everyone isl just staring waiting for Demi to comment :p
- Gary Gannon
More points if you guess the number of posts before Demi makes a comment :)
- 1x29
lol
- Sherrie Belken
nah...plenty more will come later when everyone else sees it in best of day.
- April Russo (app103)
and if she happens to engage it'll explode
- Gary Gannon
yeah, its jus warming up... plenty more to come.
- Gtp19
http://bit.ly/8dSsK << could tweet her that link.. its this THREAD .. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Demi this is my first time trying this after you. What is the difference between this and twitter? How did u find this?....Kim Goedde
- Kim Goedde
Kim: Look through the thread. There's lots of advice.
- Christopher A Carr
Kim, Demi hasn't been back on the thread to respond yet. I can't speak for her, but for me the biggest difference between FF and Twitter is the organization. If you send out a tweet you have to watch for @replies in response to that tweet, and they're kind of easy to miss. On FF when you make a post, all the replies to it are lined up underneath and it's much easier to follow (and take part) in the conversation.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina...You are one of the best Ambassadors for FF..Well said
- Bill Heslin
That's the whole deal Tina
- Sherrie Belken
Well, that's a big part of it Sherrie. The inclusion of media is another big selling point (for me, at least). Here people can include images, files, audio, or video on their posts and I can see/hear it here. On Twitter there's always a clickthrough, an extra tab or window, etc... Perhaps I'm lazy, but I like being able to interact with it all in one spot =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Demi-are you getting paid to promote these sites? I have posted comments now and again and have never got 1 response from you......Kim Goedde
- Kim Goedde
Yes, I see posts that include the pics from my twitter account. Very cool.
- Sherrie Belken
PJ WRONG.. whatever Scoble says is the right thing for HIM to do... and it may work for you, or not.. just use the place and find you own rhythm here. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Kim... why does THAT bother you.... do you think you could repsond to all those 1.7 million odd? THAT is why we are trying to say to her here... you should see this thread.. but she hasn't yet been back it seems... NO-ONE owes you a reply.. we learn that the hard way ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
250+ subscribers and counting. I'm holding off for now, even if all the rest of the geeks are subscribing. Not following her on Twitter. Demi, you'd better give me a good reason to subscribe. *switches to wait & see mode*
- Dennis Jernberg
Robert:Same thing here as on Twitter. Only a "handful" of "followers/subscribers" engage.
- Dana Fosburgh
My one suggestion to you, since FriendFeed will probably be a high traffic place for you - check out Robert Scoble (scobleizer) and see how he handles high volume.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
i like this so far..
- wendy smith
A good suggestion
- Sherrie Belken
Learn from the master. ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
'Crickets'
- Robert Kenney
sheesh... her subs are crap... subbing mainly to people who never use the place???
- Rob Sellen :o)
That was just imported
- Sherrie Belken
Yeah. When you join FF, it imports your Twitter follows. That's why I have over 120 subscriptions when I have only 75 subscribers: people on Twitter join, and I subscribe to them automagically.
- Dennis Jernberg
was also useless lol ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hey Demi, welcome to Friend Feed. Hope all is well with you and those you love. Think about adding Robert Scoble to your Friend Feed list. He is the leading expert on all things Friend Feed, and usually is the first to give us heads up when something new is coming down the pike. Take care of you! =)
- SashaKane
If you use Firefox, download Yoono --a Firefox add-on that allows you to see Twitter, Facebook, Friendfeed in Firefox, and gives a central place where all can be updated simultaneously.
- Danny Groveman
thats what I wanted
- Sherrie Belken
Can be overwhelmed by Scobles feed at times..not ideal for a new user..
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hi. Welcome to FriendFeed.
- Steven Perez
DYDMoore than steve perez. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Welcome to FriendFeed, Demi! I will definitely be sure to subscribe to you here!
- Thomas Ward
comment, like, share!
- Sean Oliver
+1 Sean ...that's really FF in a nuthsell!
- .LAG liked that
never take it too seriously, always keep a sense of humor with FriendFeed
- sofarsoShawn
started using friendfeed recently. i love the imaginary friends feature
- Patricio Rocha
*waves Link FF with Tumblr ...I love pictures in my feeds. PEACE!
- Rich Weaver
Hi!! :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
This is post is why FriendFeed had to sell their goods Facebook. I am now convinced. Geek mob rule.
- Alex C. Williams
Hello Demi ❤ Glad to see you here!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I honestly only use FF to compile all my sites, almost never for discussions
- Allison Warnock
what a strange turn of events considering the situation at hand..a bit late. but better late than never i guess. Welcome to all the new users.
- Carlos Ayala
Glad to see you are here Demi, It's a pleasure.
- Sherrie Belken
Suggestions... Well, stop being cool about it and write something!..
- Timsah memet
just play around D and you'll figure it out
- Thomas Power
She still not been back then??
- Rob Sellen :o)
ok, i'm trying it too. just hope she doesn't try jumping off a bridge or i'm screwed
- Laurel howard
I' m new and trying this too. I see your comments from Twitter on this thing too, are they linked?-confused : (
- Rose
Glad to have you both join us, Laurel and Rose =) Rose, Demi is importing her Twitter stream into FriendFeed, that's why you see her Twitter items here. When you comment on one of her Twitter items here, there's a checkbox that will allow you to send that comment to her on Twitter as an @reply.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
its like when kawasaki popped in for a single conversation last month. must be hard to deal whe you get so many replies
- Robert Higgins
So many replies that aren't very welcoming don't help matters either.
- pea
In reality all we've gained by Demi Moore's brief appearance is a number of celebrity stalkers hoping to cut her off at one more cyber pass and get the one reply they're living their lives for. The best demonstration yet of Scobles 'who you follow, defines you'?
- 1x29
demi! we love you. just showed my daughters your 1986 classic movie about last night. they fell in love with you as i did!
- JNez
Has Scoble ever had 385 comments here? What's the record? ;O
- Rob Schieber
Yes, Scoble has had 385 comments on FF. His post just this week re: FF geeks got over 1200.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Start by subbing to the peeps who comment on this thread.
- Thom Kennon
Scoble has a thread from this week re FF addicts that i think has 1500 comments and counting.
- Thom Kennon
yeah @Robert Higgins, Kawasaki kindasorta just disappeared pretty quickly didn't he?...
- Thom Kennon
a few said he would tho... no surprise to see them ignoring the threads... daft really, why bother even starting one....
- Rob Sellen :o)
Like, share, follow and be merry. Welcome.
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
FF can be fun, emotional, crazy, and always entertaining. Just speak up when you see something interesting. Like Twitter, but more rounded. And don't mind the doom and gloom chatter that wanders around... some folks just don't handle change well. :D Welcome...
- Bette Cooper
I've had lots of threads more than 385. Here's a list: http://friendfeed.com/search... -- this is why the search here rocks. Click on "Advanced Search" and you can find answers to all these kinds of questions.
- Robert Scoble
Why can't you like a comment on FF? I hereby like that comment.
- Amy℠
we say +1 amy ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
i dont get this
- Lin Hill
bye
- Lin Hill
bye
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Do you have any specific questions, Lin?
- Christopher A Carr
i dont know how to do this
- Lin Hill
You can sort of think of it as Twitter + a searchable, multimedia chatroom, that aggregates your web activity. You can have FF pull in your Youtube favorites, Amazon wish list, etc...
- Christopher A Carr
oh right.. maybe i should try again 2morrow when i havent had a drink, cause i dont get that at all
- Lin Hill
Try the friendfeed bookmarklet: http://friendfeed.com/share... - There's a short video tutorial.
- Christopher A Carr
ok thanks, i will try that
- Lin Hill
Lin, what exactly would you like to do on FriendFeed? Are you just wanting to aggregate your items from around the internet, have conversations with other people, etc? There are lots of different ways to use FriendFeed depending on what you'd like to get out of it =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Interesting to see what this thread has become, especially since Demi Moore has not checked back into FriendFeed since posting this.
- Justin Korn
ummm not sure what i want, think maybe i should leave quietly by back door
- Lin Hill
Lin: How do you use Twitter?
- Christopher A Carr
just follow people and comment now and then, thats all
- Lin Hill
Lin: I ask, because you are essentially tweeting with multiple people right now, without having to use @...
- Christopher A Carr
FF has *really* good search. Look for content that interests you. Comment and like, and people will subscribe to you...
- Christopher A Carr
Nah, leaving's not necessary Lin. Especially if you've had a drink: Friday nights on FriendFeed can be fun! If you'd like to see what FriendFeed looks like to be, check http://friendfeed.com/isthiss... That page is what FriendFeed looks like to me because of the people I follow (which is a lot, so you might want to pause it). I use FF to have fun and find good conversations. Other people use it for research, or business, or just to aggregate their material online.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
well, this is the most i`ve been tweeted to since i started, i dont feel invisible anymore!
- Lin Hill
Don't just import your Twitter like that ditz, Kim Kardashion. But do import what you feel and read and participate in posts. The key thing is participation on here from teaching something to learning something.
- Outsanity
whos kim k
- Lin Hill
Taking a look at your profile, I see that you're only following 12 people and not really commenting/liking all that much. That's probably why you're not getting a lot of interaction. Find some people that are interesting and interact with them on their posts. Once you start having conversations with people on their material, they get interested in what you have to say and are more likely to follow you back.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Imagine if Twitter included video and pictures in Tweets, and provided you with a threaded conversation to discuss your tweets... well, that's what you have here -- and that's just the beginning.
- Christopher A Carr
i didnt realise i even had 12, where did you find that out?
- Lin Hill
Has Demi checked back with us yet?? It will never be too late.
- Amani
Click on your name in the upper right hand corner, Lin.
- Christopher A Carr
it sounds good, i will keep at it 'practise makes perfect' and all that
- Lin Hill
That's exactly it, Lin =) Let us know if you have any other questions: it can be kind of confusing when you first get going...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And can you imagine people helping you like this on Twitter? ;-)
- Christopher A Carr
Oh, and try out different themes..
- Christopher A Carr
half the people i`m subscribed too i didnt even choose!! whats that about??
- Lin Hill
Never drink and FriendFeed at the same time
- Outsanity
i didnt subscribe to red nose day!!
- Lin Hill
Do you follow them on Twitter?
- Christopher A Carr
not all of them, just a few
- Lin Hill
Did you sign up to FriendFeed with your Twitter credentials, Lin? If so, it will subscribe you to the people you follow on Twitter that are on Friendfeed. It's not a big deal, really: all you do is hover over their name and click 'unsubscribe' if you don't want them.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
ok, thanks everyone, i`ll subscribe to all of you instead
- Lin Hill
This one post may beat the longest post by Robert Scoble
- Outsanity
You kidding. The record is well beyond 1,500 comments....
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
7k if I recall. wait! why am I commenting on this? .p
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
خانم دمی مور استریپ تیز دو رو کی بازی میکنید ؟؟
- مـــــــــمد
Haha. Funny Franc. Thats what I thought when I wrote my comment ...
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
I doubt she'll participate in this post now
- Mac Sharp
Welcome!
- Andrea Contino
friendfeed is now part of facebook :)
- gareth【ツ】
Welcome, where is Ashton xD?
- Francisco Espinoza
from BuddyFeed
FriendFeed has gone mainstream :o
- Nicholas James
@Nicholas And soon, Friendfeed will go offline!
- Ethan
Yet another reason I love watching Texas Rangers baseball. Check out this pic I took of Friday's telecast...
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Is she wearing her weave again??
- Lokei Atikus™®
@Atikus You say that like she should stop. She bought that weave with my money and I'm gonna make sure she wears the crap out of it.
- Brad Williamson
scareeeee
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Seriously though... I saw this woman on TV during the Ranger game and I couldn't help but pause that shot and snap a pic of it.
- Brad Williamson
ONE WORD. TEXAS
- Caroline
CAPTION NEEDED
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Nice, Chris!
- Brad Williamson
And she's wearing contact lenses, too.
- Bill Sodeman
I swear to you I just saw this woman again on the Ranger game. Those hawk-eye camera men really know how to attract ratings!
- Brad Williamson
My eyes!
- rowlikeagirl
lol
- Anna Haro
Haha
- Nicholas James
Crystal Meth, Its what for supper?
- Moved to Facebook
she just found out what was in that hot dog she ate
- (jeff)isageek
I like the Nose ring for that extra little touch - Yikes
- Brent - Loving Life
keith richards' scariest photos - http://www.uncoached.com/2009...
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We all know Keith Richards isn’t really alive. He’s drinking some kind of weird elixir that keeps him walking around kind of like Bernie in Weekend at Bernies. But whatever this dude is on, it’s working. He definitely gets laid more than me and he definitely can’t feel a thing while he’s in the act. While he might be a hero to some, he looks extremely reptilian and quite scary to me.
- Cee Bee
*hides under desk* "real time! real time! help me out here!
- Jim: Dead Like FF
I heard he had a FULL blood transfusion once (replaced all the blood in his body!).
- Fa La La La Lindsay
CAPTAIN JACK!
- Bwana ☠
Didn't he play Captain Jack Sparrow's father?
- CAJ, somewhere else
Keef Riffhard.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
as much as he's done to himself, he's still a badass. probably because of. keith richards, man!
- Cee Bee
I'm sure the scariest shots involved him with a friggin' needle buried in his arm.
- Brent - Loving Life
Yeah Alan, he did. Which makes sense since Johnny Depp said on numerous occasions that Richards was his inspiration for Sparrow
- Bwana ☠
Any time I see Keith Richards I'm reminded of 1) Mike Meyers on SNL's Weekend Update saying KR speaks Esperanto or "that secret language twins speak" and 2) Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations where he says he gets up every morning and Googles KR, because if he's still alive then the lifestyle is still viable.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Hehe, we could really do with duplicate detection when we post: http://ff.im/2vdCj ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
beat me to the punch
- Cee Bee
;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
OH MY FUCKING GOD THIS IS TERRIFYING
- Jamelle
It's amazing he manages to outlive everyone
- Rodfather
He could play Joker in next Batman movie :)
- Roman
He'll outlive us all
- Alex C. Williams
snorted his Dad's ashes. Or so he claimed, and later recanted. But I'm inclined to believe it.
- You.
But he has a trophy wife, what does this say about man-reptilian looks?
- Janet
Chicks dig rock stars? Or money? Or both?
- You.
YIKES!
- BEX
FB: Gray Downs Scarlet, 23-3, in 2009 LiFE sports Spring Game - http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/...
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http://twitpic.com/1vyem - Waiting for the gates to open. 4 1/2 years in the making.#phish
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TwitterRemote: see which Twitter users visit your site...seriously cool - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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and not just coz its from the next web guys...
- Zee.
"The catch: those Twitter users do have to sign into TwitterRemote first." Pretty big catch, if you ask me.
- Carter Rabasa
you reckon it's every single time? I better go check
- Zee.
No you log in just once, a cooky is set and recognized every time you visit ANY site with Twitter Remote. Why not give it a try...
- Boris
Just put it on my site - very cool
- Les Zaldor
again, i'm not just saying this because it's the next web...but this completely out weighs mybloglog imo
- Zee.
Nice, just testing it now.
- Richard A.
Unlike with mybloglog I actually am signed in to twitter :-)
- Richard A.
bump due to duplicate
- Zee.
FriendFeed tip of the day: Go to the 'Best of Day' page, click on the 'feed' icon, grab the URL for your 'best of day' feed, then go to your Gmail prefs, click on 'web clips', get rid of all the default subscriptions and add your 'FriendFeed Best of Day' feed. It is most awesome.
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I'm going to try now
- M F
Me, too
- Jemm
great tip. I've always just turned that feature off. Good to be able to make something like that useful. Who get's the credit for this little trick? I'll blog it.
- Rob Thomas
Credit: Me. :-)
- Kevin Fox
Not sure I'd use that. I just watch the realtime feed... for the moment.
- Richard A.
nice tip!
- vijay
This is great, thanks!
- Trish R
great one!
- Dieter Schwarz
Nice. Why do you get rid of all default subscriptions?
- Amani
Because if I don't then I get maybe one 'best of friendfeed' for every 20 'USA Today top stories' items. You don't have to get rid of the defaults. I just wanted to increase the personal relevance.
- Kevin Fox
Makes sense to me. I think I just learned something new today. Thanks for explaining.
- Amani
Also a good idea for Mac OS X Screen Saver preferences under the RSS Visualizer.
- Mark Trapp
Done.
- Bill Strathearn
Brilliant.
- DeWitt Clinton
Simple yet cool! Sad Gmail has ads among webclips time to time :-(
- Alexey Ivanov
oh noooo! I can't, there's no feed icon on Chrome ;)
- Jérôme Flipo
Great hack!
- Ph
try to switch from RSS reader to friendfeed
- Roman Zolotarev
I am currently reading Friendfeed Best of Day in Google Reader (along with FFHolic Most Discussed). How does this approach compare? Any advantages?
- Sean McBride
Nice one! Just did it!
- Nate Pilling
Sean, I guess reading through Google Reader means there is a history that you can look back through vs reading directly on FF which is transient. I usually just read via FF. However, I do have a RSS feed off of AideRSS of an OPML of all of my subscriptions. This lets me catch up on the hottest posts quickly.
- Jauder Ho
convergent kfurification device
- j1m
Great Idea, Thanks!
- Michael Fidler
from twhirl
Sorry, I didn't find the Feed button.
- Dallas Cao
You use the same FireFox theme as me!
- Noah
I like that tip.
- tomit
Nice, I didn't even know about web clips. Thanks!
- Jeremy Schultz
good tip, never thought about that one
- Peter Efland
OK? The new guy has no idea how to find the 'best of the day'?
- Sean
@Strong One: Top right corner of the site, just below the Sign Out link
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
AAhh.. I just found it. LOL Thanks much @Haggis
- Sean
thanks. I hardly pay attention to the Gmail clips out there...
- siva s
nice, just found this hot tip using ?days=20
- Karl Rosaen
FriendFeed Blog: Find more with FriendFeed Search - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"Searching is now faster and more reliable, and we added a number of useful advanced search features." You can search for entries with a minimum number of comments, or search for entries liked by a specific person. Very cool. Great job, Jim and Ben!
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Awesome!
- Robert Scoble
Try it out here: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Bret Taylor
it work not correctly for persian language
- Mil∂d
Have you tested Twingly's microblog search feature?
- Martin Lindeskog
Mil∂d: Thanks, we will look into it ASAP.
- Bret Taylor
A friend of mine: "we also need a calender to search specific dates"
- Eren Emre Kanal
Yes date criteria (maybe even time) would be nice
- Brian Sullivan
very kool. i will be putting those advance search operators to good use. thanks guys.
- Carlos Ayala
Sweet! Looking forward to checking that out.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
No RSS or Atom feeds for searches? At least no obvious links.
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: From Daniel Sims: Robert: to get an RSS feed, append &format=atom to the end of the url after doing a search.
- Robert Scoble
finally!
- Tyler (Chacha)
You might be able to get a RSS just by pasting in the URL and seeing if it can find it
- Tyler (Chacha)
Are you going to add a link to the advanced search next to the search box in the header at the top of the page?
- J Allen
If you are using Firefox you can get the RSS feed from the address bar.. if not just append &format=atom to the end of the search URL
- andy brudtkuhl
Loving... will post a suggestion to FriendFeed Feedback room http://friendfeed.com/rooms... for order-by functionality (order by likes descending could be amazing, vs. current date ordering)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Mil∂d: That "auth" argument in the URL you posted (which I deleted) is private to you. We prevent it from being indexed, but put it there so you can read private feeds in feed readers.
- Bret Taylor
Still no backlinks search, or is there? I would like to search for "http: //blog.friendfeed.com/2009/02/find-more-with-friendfeed-search.html" and get all results where someone links to that.
- Philipp Lenssen
I love the 'specific people' example tip: 'a nickname, like "scobleizer"'
- Chris Lamprecht
I forsee a major bumpage of old threads to happen from this.
- Mr. Gunn
Can anyone tell me what this was about? It appears to be the most commented upon item. http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Mr. Gunn
Mil∂d, we made an update that should fix search for languages. Please let us know if you're still having trouble.
- Dan Hsiao
it work's correctly now (in persian language) thanks bret and Dan
- Mil∂d
how about adding the best of day, week, month to regular search pages as well?
- Thomas Hawk
My experimental prototype FriendFeed UI: http://paulbuchheit.github.com/xfeed... These are just some random ideas I'm playing with. See http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2009... for details.
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Yes please :-)
- Majento
Now i'd like to make the same for rooms and my own feed, what do i need to change? http://www.majento.com/Majento...
- Majento
It feels kind of twitterish, that's not necesssarily a bad thing btw.
- Mathieu Ayel
Actually I really like the box appearing on the right hand side with view/share/like. It unclutters the UI. Also like the fact that the items on the stream are separated by a line. It makes visually easier to digest the bites...
- Mathieu Ayel
"perhaps I should do a post on "20% time" at some point..." Yes. Also an idea, license your blog under Creative Commons.
- Philipp Lenssen
That is good fun, http://www.chrisloft.com/myFF... - but I have to brush up on my css a little bit to incorporate this onto my page.
- Chris Loft
Just cool :)
- Charlie Anzman
Cool.
- Tyson Key
meh. I *does* feel Twitterish which is not a good thing in my book. Interesting as a FriendFeed To Go embed maybe.
- AJ Kohn
feels a bit too web2.0, with the larger fonts and rounded look... it has so few controls, one wonders what to do with it...
- Christopher Galtenberg
This would work very well if it used lists, etc. But for those of us with big followers' lists, we're pretty much toast. :-)
- Louis Gray
I miss the view of the conversations.
- Ontario Emperor
for twitter fans i guess...
- Chris Hofmann
Yeah, it has a lot of problems with high volume posters. I actually had to temporarily unsubscribe from Scoble so that other people would show up as well :). This started off with me wondering if our realtime view (http://friendfeed.com/realtime) could have some kind of threading added in. It doesn't really work in a lot of cases, but by putting the code out there I'm hoping that it will inspire other people to come up with interesting new interfaces (and also show how easy it is to use our API).
- Paul Buchheit
@Peter: A sticky post that remains at the top until I decide otherwise would be fantastic. I'd also like the ability to change the number of items I see per page. @Paul: Kudos on the realtime and for the API.
- AJ Kohn
This API is absolutely simple and easy to use - but the styles interfere with my css and my poor coding is not up to sorting them out so that I can add the FF-UI to one of my pages rather than put it on a separate page. Heaps of fun to use. http://www.chrisloft.com/myFF...
- Chris Loft
Ack!! It looks like Twitter!!!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
not really diggin it to be honest. as an optional or additional way to view ff it could work for those who choose, but i think the one we have currently looks a little better
- Cee Bee
Actually, looks kinda like Tumblr.
- Yolanda
yeah - i prefer this. its instantly recodnisable as FF. the prototype looks more like Twitter.
- Roberto Bonini
I will get used to whatever UI you put on top of FF, so I'm not to worried about what sites it does or doesn't look like. This approaches what I would really like for FF, which is to set a rate of information flow (maybe even have some sort of dial). There are already recommended friends, which would be smarter when I have time to waste than surfing "everyone", but I could dial it way back on busy days. This would also help with discovery because I could add people to my home feed if I like their stuff.
- Clare Dibble
Been checking it out with my own name replacing yours..it's an entirely new perspective on FF. Could be good...not sure yet. Thanks for posting.
- Josh Haley
I just realized that it looks surprisingly like a chi.mp site. I.e. http://sunla.mp/
- Jauder Ho
It looks a bit like twitter, I think we could utilize a couple different ui designs in "settings"
- Kyle Weller
it's interesting, not sure I like it.
- mikepk
I do like the "roll your own with the JSON" approach though. Tried to do something similar with our stuff back in the day.
- mikepk
Where "back in the day" means 1-2 years ago. :)
- mikepk
mixed feelings.. does look like tumblr
- rawwell
Well, what if there are no openings come this May—literally none. No job postings. No on campus interviews. No job fairs. This isn’t a fantasy. It’s happening right now. Even the companies that are showing up to job fairs aren’t hiring—they’re just there for branding. Let’s not even talk about the number of people getting laid off everyday. You... - http://www.thisisgoingtobebig.com/2009...
Alex C. Williams and Dave Hodson liked this
wow, I know a few people who need to read this post.
- Alex C. Williams
from twhirl
What’s Twitter’s Real Motive for the API Cuts? - http://www.inquisitr.com/16075...
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Nicholas James, Gavin, Allen Stern and 35 other people liked this
I see the motive as they are getting overloaded again and with so many services hitting them, they had to make a choice. But they are doing so at an inflexible number, and not investigating why it is that some services require more updates. I also understand their API is not all that optimized, and a cleaner dev kit would reduce the noise aggressively.
- Louis Gray
Louis, if they're overloaded it's only because they're not investing in more infrastructure, despite the huge last round. Given their all over growth, I simply don't believe that overload is an issue, although the cost/ benefit analysis of catering to it makes rational sense. If they wanted to, they could cope. By cutting these services off, there's got to be another reason than service provision alone
- Duncan Riley
The truth is you don't know
- Dave Winer
Dave, nor will we ever know, which is why as investing in 3rd party twitter apps is insane
- Duncan Riley
The truth is that none of us know for sure. It's a huge risk for 3rd party developers to rely on a service with no revenue that seems to not care for them all that much.
- Louis Gray
But if you think about history we know how this is going to turn out.
- Dave Winer
Duncan, your comment appears to be in direct violation of Occam's Razor. Why attribute nefarious motives to a situation that could just as well be due to insufficient planning. As smart as the Twitter dev team is there's no reason they should be expected to outthink their entire user base and the squillions of armchair architects out there.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
The biggest issue here isn't that they put a limit in, its how it was done and the explanation. The limit is too low for the vast majority of applications, useful or not. The limit affects whitelisted applications that Twitter gave its blessing to, so if this is an issue they could simply re-evaluate who gets whitelisted e.g. services they deem of added value. Also if you consider just the time given to react its really quite preposterous. Borderline socialpathic (one may say) towards their own community.
- Roger Kondrat
Is it purely coincidence this happened right after Twitter got a business manager? Hmmmmmm Not to mention they only limit API calls for 3rd party services, but desktop clients? Unlimited. Bizarre.
- Mona Nomura
Daniel: last round of funding, ability to buy more bandwidth and servers. Insufficient planning doesn't negate the fact that they are able to spend money to fix it now. They can, and they could...but they haven't. Roger, agree, but the question is still: why, and why now? Mona, that's a parallel I made. Dave: yep, and it ain't good.
- Duncan Riley
A few months ago, I found a Twitter back up tool that exported Tweets into Excel. The dev left me a comment on PixelBits explaining Twitter's protocols pertaining to API limitations of unknown companies. Because of that background knowledge, Twitter's move is HIGHLY suspect. Let me find the link and his exact words. BRB. Back. So the company is called Tweetake and Alfred left me a...
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- Mona Nomura
Don't get me wrong, Twitter _does_ have a right to monetize, but apparently they aren't an equal opportunist, which is another reason why I am not a gung-ho Twitter advocate. If they can fuck over developers, how do you think we (the users) will be treated? I am curious to see what paid services they have in store and how it will impact us (users).
- Mona Nomura
I met with the twitter folks today, and the only reason for the cut is to stop the abuses they have been dealing with from many users. Some callers were sending 100 qps for useless update checking. Most of these abuses are just bad implementations on the consumer side.
- Stephan Osmont
Stephan, at least 10 services, and there wasn't a way to reach out to them to find a way forward....yeah, I really believe that abuse was the only reason
- Duncan Riley
They are totally making the smart moves and that cap is making a lot of sense. Heavyweight (legitimate) API consumers are scarce and will develop a type of relationship with them that will be mutually beneficial in business terms.
- Stephan Osmont
It's hard to tell, but I'm hesitant to believe this is the reason. Based on comments Alex and others have said, I get the feeling Twitter still wants to be a content business. I don't think they want to get into the business of relationships, which is what our business revolves around. Alex himself boasted about trying to enable apps that want to build cool stuff around the content. I think that's their focus.
- Jesse Stay
probably their servers are getting a caning and they're tired of it. why they still haven't offered paid services by now is beyond me. it's their own faults at this point.
- Terry O'Fee
I can imagine that all these new analytics tools that score, compare, build profiles etc. by querying twitter must create quite a costly load, and one which does not help twitter in any way
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Playing with a beta version of BuddyFeed. It's got lists and hide support!
bcultral, Parth Awasthi, Rodfather and 4 other people liked this
I love it ...
- johnpiercy
My BuddyFeed coverage is here: http://friendfeed.com/e... Lists and Hide support were my biggest nags at the first version. New version will have them!
- Mark Trapp
Now we're talking... When/if they had realtime support, I'll purchase
- Bwana ☠
40 year old virgin "kevin hart" scene - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Gordon Swaby, cjmart and Alex C. Williams liked this
Liked for rocking Jamaican wear:)
- Gordon Swaby
This is baby from the cover of Nirvana's Nevermind. Prepare to feel old. - http://www.buzzfeed.com/akdobbi...
Melanie Jagolino, Bertrand Doux, Brad Williamson and 70 other people liked this
Yeah. Thanks for that. Pass my slippers and pipe.....
- WorldofHiglet
you just ruined my week :(
- Neil Bernhart
*Shaking my rickety cane at my monitor*
- Derrick
I was just listening to this record yesterday....
- Seagate
I hope he reposes that picture every few years. Would be an interesting montage in about 70 years!
- Martin Bryant
Man, I really feel old now. Thanks Steve :)
- Jonathon
I already know I'm old, but thanks anyway.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Guess he's feeling a bit more modest this time around...
- Kamilah Gill
Haha, I know I'm old, but someone needs to tell this guy Armpit hair of that magnitude is a turn off...for everyone involved!
- Terence
++Derrick
- Nicholas Kreidberg
*decides to shave pits even tho he's a guy*
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Next stop for Cecily: old folks home
- cecily
glad he's wearing pants this time
- Toby Graham
I feel old!!!!!!
- Shevonne
Same how the years have flown by..
- Joe Dawson
OH MY GOSH!!! hahahahaha!!!
- dafire
NOOOO SH*********T
- Marko Bon
damn! time went by entirely tooo fast!
- Susan Beebe
I love it! Nirvana makes me feel old without any visual reminder of time passing.
- anna sauce
17 years?! No way!!!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Whoa. Just went back in time there.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
OMG! 17 years already?
- LouCypher
You could have raised a child in that time. We can also make you feel pain *chews tin foil*
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
I was 12 when nevermind came out geez
- orionstarr
Wow.....
- George Smith
I was 18 ... :^O
- Timothy Griffin
Imagine having your baby picture or any picture on one of the best albums of all time!
- orionstarr
AGHHHH!!!!
- Anna Lynn M.
a friend sent this to me today! Go Goo baby, nirvana baby, and more....http://www.mtv.com/photos...
- dafire
Egads! I had just started....college. <cry>
- Kelly W.
That baby was naked! But this man...
- 钢铁的咆哮
Wow!
- David Cook
OMG. and today I see this....on the day I turn 3..I mean, 29.
- Sarah Perez
Happy Belated Birthday Sarah!
- David Cook
Lessons Learned While Building an iPhone Site - http://code.flickr.com/blog...
Keith Pelczarski, 阿石, rob zand and 4 other people liked this
What's next for Sarah Palin? - http://newsofworldcelebrity.blogspot.com/2008...
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Matt Snoulten, Alex C. Williams and Duncan Riley liked this
Hunting trip ?
- Mo Kargas
With Dick Cheney?
- Warren Butler
Her own talk show- isn't Oprah retiring sometime soon I hope?
- Wayne Schulz
Well said, Ryo.
- Siddharth Deb
Classics - http://www.classicsapp.com/
LouCypher, ivanandersson, Christopher Harley and 3 other people liked this
Sweet looking app for reading classics on the iPhone!
- Chris Messina
from Mento
Impressive
- Cuneyt Uysal
Neat UI and page flip experience. But the novelty got worn out even during the video demo! What else does it do? I like the 'readability' of the text though..
- Mahesh CR
password protected...
- Brandon Titus
What's it do? The site is sporting HTTP auth now, so I can't take a look…
- Carlo Zottmann
why buy this when you already have Stanza which is free?
- Baard @ Pixum
Cordless Electric Pole Chainsaw » Coolest Gadgets - http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/2008081...
Brian Daniel Eisenberg and Alex C. Williams liked this
good for an enema
- Noah David Simon
hey Andrew... @Jack went Chainsaw on my twitter account again
- Noah David Simon
Vista SP2 Coming Shortly - http://www.dvorak.org/blog...
Alex C. Williams liked this
How'd ya do that?
- Alex C. Williams
View your FriendFeed in real-time - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
Kol Tregaskes, YAAK, David Krug and 4 other people liked this
Family Guy - Oooh ma mau mau - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Brandon Klevence, Guillermo Esteves, Robert DeBord and 6 other people liked this
Damn you. I had just got this out of my head yesterday. Looks like I have another week :)
- Alex C. Williams
In case you haven't heard, the bird is the word!
- Walt Ruppar
The week in pictures: 10 October 2008 - Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news...
Anthony K. Valley ©, mhmazidi, Anna Haro and 5 other people liked this
"Australian singer Josh Pyke films a new video on a special boat created to the same specifications of the acoustic guitar that he usually performs with"
- Baard @ Pixum
from Bookmarklet
hrm... not sure if this wicked or simply pretentious ;) Since I haven't heard his music, I'll reserve judgment.
- Michael W. May
Looks better with the dock not transparent
Anna Choi, Jack Lhasa, Michael Fidler and 10 other people liked this
Nice! Jail broken I'm guessing?
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Stacks is pretty cool. It uhh stacks the icons. Der haha
- Mona Nomura
Interesting theme you've got there.
- Andrew Trinh
nicerobot yes, I was on the devteam and helped with the initial jailbreak :) and stacks is cool also but I don't use it :P andrew it's the LeopardUI theme, the lock screen even uses a mouse pointer for 'scroll to unlock'
- mjc
WOW, you was in Dev Team!? I love you guys down there, you make back then better use for iPhone and iPod Touch. Now too, but theres appstore... :/
- Kristian Salonen
app store apps are very limited, and they still work on jailbroken phones
- mjc
[Obama]: The fundamentals of our economy - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Alex C. Williams, Marcel Janus and Dave Winer liked this
alright, I am addicted to http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ for election poll news (more like trends)
jcunwired, MikeAmundsen, MVB (Grinch of FF) and 5 other people liked this
Yes that's because you seek Dem analysis. Just use RCP it is unbiased. I haven't seen an election since 1980, that didn't skew left until two days before the election. Obama should be up by 10 pts. plus in toss up states. Seek likely voters.
- Morgan Warstler
good statistical resource
- Pat Kitano
YouTube - David Letterman Reacts to John McCain Suspending Campaign - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Tom Stocky, Tanath, Adrienne and 70 other people liked this
He's not pulling any punches
- Mike Doeff
Gloves are off!!
- Christopher Sacca
I wish I could like this a million times.
- Shawn Farner
"need a ride to the airport?" - perfect
- Jeff Woelker
"...no wait, she really hasn't handled a crisis like this in the past" :)
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
I guess SOMEONE's vote got lost...
- Helen Sventitsky
Props to CBS for airing this. I wonder what was cut out around the sixth minute mark of the monologue.
- Eddie LeBreton
It's on here, now, I'm loving how he's just ripping him, especially for cancelling his appearance on his show.
- Trish R
that was awesomesauce.
- Geoff Schultz
Lesson: Don't cancel on Letterman.
- Santa CW™
it keeps looping :(
- Anna Lynn M.
Finally...it works now. That was excellent! It's like McCain told him he had to wash his hair and couldn't make the show..then was caught out at the bar...hilarious!
- Anna Lynn M.
McCain CHEATED ON DAVID LETTERMEN!
- Santa CW™
ROFL. Go to about minute 3 where he recommends that Palin takes over the campaign during this "crisis" and minute 6 where he stops at CBS for a TV interview on his "emergency" trip to the airport.
- scott willeke
That's why we all wanted Letterman to win "The Late Shift."
- Bryan R. Adams
Ouch. But he was right. And to be honest, Letterman hasn't been funny in a long time but it's good to see he's still got some fight left in him.
- R. Alexander Spoerer
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