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Robert Scoble added an event on Upcoming

Oct 24, 2008: Podcamp + Wordcamp Hawaii at Hawaii Convention Center

11 hours ago - Link

Leif Hansen liked this

Are you kidding me? Not if it's going to be in Hawaii (c'mon) - Alex Hammer

Yup, and Podcamp Seattle is this weekend. And BizJam (http://tinyurl.com/69clrn) is next week! - Leif Hansen

o.o you're coming to Hawaii? I have got to find a way to be there and meet you! - Erin

wait, @Leif wasn't #podcampseattle a few weeks back? I was there, at the UW. Did I miss a re-visit? - thecolor

My bad (too many camps, barcamp, podcamp) -Seattle Social Media Camp! July 12th http://upcoming.yahoo.com/even... - Leif Hansen

Louis Gray had a new status message on Gmail/Google Talk

“What does it mean when Scobleizer is not on the TechMeme leaderboard... at all? http://www.techmeme.com/lb”

10 hours ago - Link

Jesse Stay, americanm, Robert Scoble, Phil Wolff and 6 other people liked this

sanity? - Fred Grott

Maybe he's spending more time on FF and other socials apps then blogging? Making videos? Spending time with family? Just a couple guesses. - Larry Kless via twhirl

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nothing... - Josue Salazar

FriendFeed - Bwana McCall

nothing. it's only one measure of influence and I see Robert on TechMeme fairly often. - Alex Hammer

Think that means he's carrying the water, conversation wise, for a lot of bloggers. - Christian Anderson via fftogo

That it is the 4th of July? - Mark Dykeman

the end of the blogosphere as we know it - Steven Hodson

Is it possible to transcend the A List? Perhaps he's now on a higher plane of existence, blogging wise. - Todd McKinney

It means he is spending more time here, Qik, FastCompany.tv and on Twitter. - Steve Rubel

Blogging is so 2007? I agree with S Rubel. - Russellreno

Gabe's tweaking ?? :) - Charlie Anzman

@Steve. Totally agree. - Dave Martin

It means his style of blogging has changed - he in many ways *is* the blog - the things he does and uses are the technologies to watch. - Jesse Stay

Apocalypse? - Andy Wibbels

The enormously famous and powerful don't blog. What percent of Davos alumni blog? It's not how they manage their reputations and celebrity. - Phil Wolff via Alert Thingy

Duncan Riley posted an entry on The Inquisitr

Introducing Inquisitr iQ Alpha

22 hours ago - Link

l0ckergn0me, Kerem Ozkan, Ontario Emperor, felix and 16 other people liked this

any particular reason why techcrunch is excluded? - Zee from WeDoCreative

is it? must have run out of space. - Duncan Riley

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:) - Martin Bryant

dont make me choose - shoemoney

Jeremy, I never would. It shouldn't be a one or the other proposition anyway...indeed, that's how the story in that direction happened. - Duncan Riley

Duncan is so talented on many fronts. Re: Excluding Techcrunch (or running out of space). Controversy sells. Mike Arrington is a master of the headline tweak, jab pull. It takes many forms. - Alex Hammer

thanks for including WinExtra duncan - I appreciate that - Steven Hodson

bookmarked - Alejandro S.

no probs Steve. As I mention in the post, if anyone has more ideas for page/ content let me know. Surely there must be a combination out there that will offer a quick look at a given topic that isn't being served by an existing service (the memes page here meets that for me...very handy) - Duncan Riley

How about the top FF stories? - Russellreno

Richard posted an entry on ReadWriteWeb

ReadWriteWeb Integrates FriendFeed & Twitter Into Our Comments

yesterday at 4:51 pm - Link

Dobromir Hadzhiev, Alex Hammer, Hassan Ibraheem, Thomas Hawk and 45 other people liked this

I'm finding FriendFeed more and more useful... it's kind of scary. AFAIC, I'm interested to see how this "CC" integration will work moving forward. It seems that a better approach, however, would be to enable me to create an account on ReadWriteWeb with my OpenID and then use OAuth to authorize my comments to be sent to my FriendFeed account, rather than having to type in my key everytime. - Chris Messina via FriendFeed MT Plugin

Sweet integration! I almost want to have an MT blog now, but I know Disqus is gonna come through for me in the end. Right, Daniel? Daniel? Anyway, good job, looks great and it really raises FriendFeed's profile here on RWW. - J. Phil via FriendFeed MT Plugin

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w00t! just want to make sure that this shows up in the FF comment stream too. thanks for the info! - ~C4Chaos

@factoryjoe, I have thought about that approach as well. I may very well update the plugin in future such that your FF account can be linked to your MT login (whether native or OpenID). That would certainly make things smoother, as all your would need to enter is your openID. - Mark Carey via FriendFeed MT Plugin

I was just watching a presentation by Tapscott (wikinomics dude), with a panel of "next generation" Gen y'ers in front of big name NY execs. I was thinking it was unfair to mislead all these senior executives that they are representative of most people their age - the panel are just early tech adopters like everyone else here (rather than typical 22 year olds). But I've just come back to reality, realising how early adopters influence the masses - this is a perfect example of how a early adopter crowd influence an early adopter blog which in turns influences the mainstream media which in turn influence the mass market. News like this mark turning points for these products I think. - Elias Bizannes via twhirl

I think this is a cool feature and had to try it. I notice that some people have a blog-entry item that does inverse linking -- reporting pages that link to the blog entry. It looks like this is automated. I think that would be very useful and I am out to find out more. Wouldn't this (perhaps) solve the track-back problem. There would have to be some sort of white-list/black-list system to deal with link bait, though, wouldn't there? - Dennis E. Hamilton via FriendFeed MT Plugin

I changed the title, to remove Twitter. It's not technically correct that we're integrating Twitter -- although of course the link that attracts FriendFeed comments could come from Twitter. In this case it came from the RWW rss feed, but it also went to Twitter via Tweetfeed. The trouble with these things is they make one's head hurt :-) - Richard

Ah, now I am in FriendFeed and can see how this works from this side. Have to find the opportunity to comment in Twhirl too and I will be very happy. - Dennis E. Hamilton

@Richard: Interesting. The title doesn't change in FriendFeed, of course, but your comment about it does, which I guess is close enough for computer work. - Dennis E. Hamilton

the other cool thing is that the FF comments actually get saved to our RWW publishing software. So if FF ever went down or stopped working, the comments will still be on RWW. - Richard

I love this feature! I wish the WordPress plugin worked in a similar fashion. - Mack D. Male

Looking good! - Hao Chen

When I try to post trough Feedly, I get -error: 404 -- undefined'. Hmm... but it seems this is only true for some posts and not for others. - Kris Haamer

(Kris: thanks for the heads up. we are looking into this bug. will update http://www.getstatisfaction.co... and our blog when it is fixed). - Edwin Khodabakchian

Test post - Thomas Lundberg

who the heck gives a monkey's cuss? - Dennis Howlett via twhirl

cool - Michael McGimpsey via twhirl

Wow! Looks great. An elegant solution. - Chris Baskind

Good enough reason to take a second look at Movable Type - Andy Roberts

Nice work with the CC to FriendFeed, I really like the direction that this is going and FriendFeed integration with sites is definitely the way forward! - Joe Dawson via FriendFeed MT Plugin

Wow, this is cool. - Ryan Lejbak via FriendFeed MT Plugin

cool .... i swear a blog is coming that is ONLY comments, and a prize will be offered to determine what the article was about dang, startup anybody? - gregory lent via FriendFeed MT Plugin

Duncan Riley posted a message

“Have FF rooms jumped the shark? Just visiting my subscribed rooms, at least half haven't been updated in a week. Found a list of top rooms I'm not subscribed to, same number, and even then all but a dozen or so I hit with more than a couple of posts in the last week.”

19 hours ago - Link

AJ Batac, Jeremiah Owyang, Dobromir Hadzhiev, Mrsth and 21 other people liked this

perhaps people rushed in too quickly in setting them up? I'm just as guilty on the Inquisitr Fun room as well. Need to start updating it more - Duncan Riley

the rooms have never had a use case. for example im in "auto-junkie" room - firstly i already tag the item in delicious and it comes thru friendfeed i dont want to tag it again. if i do tag it for my "autojunkie" room it doesnt show up in my normal friendfeed feed so no1 sees it. basically FF rooms dont work and wont unless its changed; ideally when i shared an item in google reader or tagged it in delicious it autotagged or i classified it to a friendfeed room, then content niches could form.. - ben barren

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I had a feeling they might be like facebook groups. - jjprojects

I don' - Dave Winer

They were a novelty at first but they have their uses. I'm going to use a FriendFeed Room so friends and family can follow my adventures in Japan in a few weeks' time. It might make a few of them stick around here too. http://14sandwiches.com/2008/0... - Martin Bryant

The identi.ca room's pretty busy :) - Charlie Anzman

Haven't really used rooms much after the initial launch experimenting. But I think that's just because I don't need this feature at the moment and there may be many use cases for others for this. I guess Friendfeed has the real usage stats on their server... hey FF, care to share? :) - Philipp Lenssen

I've found that rooms are not that useful - but what would be really useful for me would be to be able to assign different people to different groups (or rooms) so I could separate social from business topic from political, etc. Then being able to watch three or four feeds side-by-side rather than have to choose between tabs. - Craig Thomler

Of course every user could choose to group people together in the way that made sense to them - which makes these groups fundamentally different to rooms - which are the same for everyone in them :) - Craig Thomler

rooms may be better suited to private use. i know small groups using them for work collaboration - rob zand

I've only just started to use rooms, so I'm not sure whether they've got staying power. It seems one subscribes to people for themselves but rooms for topics, and that seems like a useful distinction to me. - Michael C. Harris

Yeah, they jumped it. Same syndrome as creating too many subforums on a bulletin board. Fragments the conversation. FF'll need Rooms when the rest of the world turns up here later. - laurence timms

Rooms are a weird concept for subscribed content. If I go to a bar with only people I know and like, why would I put some of them in a room? Why not just stay in the bar? - Cait

Cait, I see it as the difference between going to a bar with people you like - you'll have a good time even if the bar is crap - and going to a bar you like on your own - you might meet some like-minded folk. - Michael C. Harris

No, they've just finally dropped to normal levels of a post-launch. Just like every other product. Now you weed out the bad room and keep the good ones. - Ben Parr

I think the real problem is lack of (easy)discoverability for public rooms - Brian Sullivan

I periodically step through the rooms I am subscribed to and leave the ones that look dead. - J. Phil

I think notifications would help, or some way to integrate new items into or beside your regular feed. That way people would see when new items were posted and jump in. That and some sort of rooms directory. - Josh Lowensohn

I think the rooms are pretty useful for "private" groups where you're focused on collaboration but maybe not so much for general use. The public ones are good for discussion of new stuff (Identi.ca) or for sharing (the Invites group) but it's easier just to post to your main feed for other stuff, IMO. - Lindsay Donaghe

Rooms have some really good use cases for business (lightweight collaboration) and special events (Apple conferences). As specialized discussion places, their usefulness is decreased a bit due to the nature of FriendFeed: your subscriptions determine the content you see. People that would really be into say, knitting, don't need a room. They just do their normal thing here and others decide whether to subscribe to them or not. - Hutch Carpenter

I left a bunch of rooms because they were just spammed. The rooms I moderate are slow but steady (I need to import some feeds). Even FF itself recognizes that they need to do a lot with rooms to make the more usable so I'm sure we'll see improvements soon. - Jennifer Leggio

I grabbed a couple of rooms and haven't yet set them up ... lots of potential, just no time. - AJ Kohn

Most of the rooms that I am subscribed to or moderating are pretty slow. I still think they have huge potential. I think part of the problem is FF doesn't currently offer an easy way to discover these rooms. Some room directories (not hosted by FF) have popped up but these haven't gained much traction as far as I can tell. - Mike Doeff

I'm in a ton of rooms but I just haven't gotten into them yet. I think I need to get rid of 99% of the rooms I'm in and focus on one or two rooms. Bootstrapping community is very tough work. The only way these things will get popular is for one person to really care about a room and tend to it daily. That's the kind of work that I just don't have time to do anymore. - Robert Scoble

That's not what "jumped the shark" means - Bjorn Tipling

yup - Gary Dobkin

Bjorn, "jumped the shark" in the context of past its peak. Happy Days reference. Mind you, they may still come back again. - Duncan Riley

I have not even looked at rooms, I just don't see the point. - Cait

Duncan, it requires some ridiculous event like Fonz jumping over a shark, that signifies desperation. Something past its peak might never have jumped the shark. - Bjorn Tipling

Great, now I'm getting room spam... and I can't report it... rooms doomed to fail - Cait

Rooms seem like a feature that should have come out later. - possible248

A "Search for a room" feature will help bring them back... ;-) - AJ Batac

I've used ff rooms to replace 37signals Campfire chatrooms for ongoing private one-on-one conversations. That's worked very well. We like the appearance of the ff rooms versus Campfire and the ability to group our formerly random chatting into topics. Campfire itself is a great product, of course. - John Murray

Louis Gray posted a message on Twitter

“Want a Twitter app with Summize integration, replies, Tweets, and groups in one desktop window? Check out http://www.tweetdeck.com/beta”

11 hours ago - Link

Don MacAskill, rob zand, Nikpay, David McDonald and 43 other people liked this

I would like a twitter app that would make twitter work :) - (jeff)isageek

I want a twitter that works :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

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Tweetdeck is very nice. Breaking tweets out into @ replies and groups makes sense. Pretty, too. - Leo Laporte

Excellent! I'm just not that into all the dark gray. - kennbell

'scuse me while i wipe up this drool, but that looks hot! - Sarah Perez

This is very nice. Love the grouping feature. Makes it a lot easier to follow tweets. - Dave Rutter

ok, see that got all screwed up just now, had to delete & start over. - TheMacMommy via twhirl

so what I meant to say was, I like tweetdeck for trying to improve on apps like twirl or twitterific for that matter, but I'd still love to see some über combination of tweetdeck & twirl that lets you group, customize color in UI, post using ping.fm and receive more than just tweets like FF does - not so much a firehose but more like a spiffy detachable shower head w/the different dial settings. Come to Mamma! - TheMacMommy via twhirl

Checking it out now, thanks Louis! - Daniel Smith via twhirl

I like it Louis - thanks for the tip .. even though there are acouple of things I would probably like as options it is very workable in the short time I have been using it - Steven Hodson

I really like this so far, it'll be interesting to see what future plans holds. I'd like to see a tad more customization of the client itself. Nice so far though. - Nick

Nice that you can keep twittering even when Twitter is down. Categories/groups/tags is clearly a direction Twitter user needs are heading. Also need an app, though, that can handle multiple Twitter accounts. I tried Twhirl but after a while kept getting timeouts on the 2nd open account. Maybe that's Twitter's fault, not Twhirl's. - Gordon Vaughan

I still wonder why all of these apps default with a dark background. - Caleb Elston

Just saw it with my 9-y-o daughter. Animation was amazing and it was visually attractive. Story was cute, but not great. I think that Monsters Inc., the Incredibles and even Toy Story had better writing. Most interesting thing to me was that more than half the people in the theater were adults with no children. Definitely a bit of a geeky crowd, different than you might expect for a Disney/Pixar flick. All that said, Nice. Now all I need is a blackberry version (that also handles friendfeed) :) - Barry Graubart via twhirl

Using it .. nice. Try clicking on the photo. Looks like most of us need to go higher rez! - Charlie Anzman

pretty slick...just not picking up all my twitter friends though for some reason. - Zee from WeDoCreative

Very nice and still very-very buggy (Air Linux) - Czar Derek Peterman

Ok, another ugly black twitter client. I want an Air app with some brushed metal feel to it. Having something on my desktop that doesnt match the rest of the windows makes me feel like Im on windows. - Colby Olson

I would rather pay for Flickr than put my photos on Facebook to be fodder for advertisers. - Andrew Feinberg

Are there any other Twitter services/apps with the Grouping functionality? Really loving that. - Bryan Landers

looks excellent. love the "maximized view" for real twitter addicts. though I can't imagine there are many left that are addicted, since, well, you know. can't really be addicted to twitter when it's down all the time - Mark Bao

Thanks! I'll check it out over the next few days! - Soulhuntre via twhirl

This is lovely. Funny how some really nice apps sneak up on you. Thanks for linking! - mark.kemperman via feedalizr

nice but I doubt it fits the workflow now that twitter is a tiny bit of it - Dobromir Hadzhiev

thanks Louis, very cool app, what do you think of the group service? - John Cass via Alert Thingy

Robert Scoble posted an entry on Scobleizer -- Tech geek blogger

The most hated man in productivity

yesterday at 9:30 am - Link

Bryan Landers, Alex Hammer, fst, Dobromir Hadzhiev and 19 other people liked this

Tim Ferriss is on in 20 minutes (at 10 a.m.). - Robert Scoble

"hated!?" Tim is great! Who hates Tim, I'll punch them in the mouth. - Veronica

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Hate.. how can I hate Tim?? - Britney Mason

I love his book...I read it in 4 hours during work...J/K great book! :) - Pokai

I hate him. I hate him because he does things so well. (Jealousy, etc., I don't really 'hate' him.) - Kirk Kittell

separating fact from fiction takes more than four hours - gregory lent

Tim is loving these comments. - Robert Scoble

will You record it? how long is it? - Luca Conti

I am Fan of Tim - Kreg Steppe

I'd settle for an 8 or 16h work week. - Aaron Brazell

scoble, why suit and tie? - Pokai

I hope the video will be up after i get off of work (in 4 hours) - Eric_T

are you going to re broadcast the vid? - tanya

I have a crush on Mr. Ferris - Andrea Baker

i thought outsourcing his online dating to people who prettended to b him and schedule 1 hour dates with pretty girls all lined up in 1 day was creepy. especially when he fired some outsourced labor 4 picking girls not pretty enuff. if i remember story right that's pretty messed up. - Marshall Kirkpatrick via fftogo

It's a great book, I think i bought the audio book on iTunes then lost it through some HD crashing DRM goodness. Then went out to the book store and bought the "real" book. That guy owes me a beer next time he is in Seattle or where ever I am when we cross paths. I used to recommend it to my coworkers but then I thought maybe i should just recommend it to people I DON'T work with... - Eric_T

He seems like a "unique individual" but love him or hate him you have to respect what he's doing, what he's done and how well he has made it work. - Nicholas Kreidberg

Thing is, his book's title is there only to grab attention. And then he spends the bulk of his book trying to make the content fit the title, and spends his interviews defending his book title. Why couldn't he have been more honest in the first place, and named his book something like "Outsourcing unpleasant tasks"? I'll tell you why. Because that was already known, and because it wouldn't have sold. So he created controversy to boost book sales. In my book, that's DISHONEST. - Raoul Pop

Tim is awesome. The title is what it is and frankly it's probably time folks got over it. He doesn't try and "justify" it - he explains it because people keep asking. Reality? Even in the book itself he is clear and honest about the title. Tim has good advice, and more than that he is a living example of thinking outside the box - just knowing he is out there, pulling it off, helps me think laterally. - Soulhuntre

How can you hate this guy? He's got a unique take on a lot of things and some of it is tongue in cheek but, he's also got some very good things to say. - Candace Holly

Scoble, your welcome for the suggestion to interview Tim, how bout some props? - adolfo foronda

Adolfo: I have known Tim for more than a year, and he was always my first choice to have on the show. I also got dozens of people asking me to have Tim on the show, but thanks! He was a great guest. - Robert Scoble

looks like he's found his answer for the 4-hour work week, anyway. - rambn

Good FastCompany interview, Robert. Enjoyed it. - J. Phil

Jason Calacanis published a photo on Flickr

Mahalo member pages now support FriedFeed

yesterday at 10:56 am - Link

Susan Beebe, Charlie Anzman, GlennIsaac, Dave Martin and 27 other people liked this

I hope it's deep fried feed. :) - Alvin Ashcraft

mmmm, FriedFeed. The feed of all things fried: chicken wings, corn dogs, burritos, etc. - Eric Hildreth via Alert Thingy

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I'm waiting for 2.0: HalfBakedFeed - Keith Smith

That's the Mississippi version of FF I believe. Goes great with FriedOkra and FriedGreenTomatoes - Tad Donaghe via fftogo

The cool feature here would be to post Mahalo activity updates to FF, "Joe Smoe just created the page _____'. You should totally hire a social media guy ;) - sean percival

Still waiting for FriedFriends - Pat Hawks

Liked for the typo. :) - Mathew A. Koeneker

great suggestion Sean Percival... have we ever meet? feel like i know you. - Jason Calacanis

Like for the Calacanis typo alone.... But, heh, glad Mahalo is now *really* FF friendly :-) - Barbara K. Baker

Most of my friends are fried....Will FF be added to Mahalo Share? - Jeff Hoard via twhirl

Must install spell check. - Russellreno

Hey we are still buds but I have to razz you a bit, who do you think setup mahalo on ff? :) social media traffic ftw - sean percival

Sadly I just noticed the Fried - Earl E Morningwood via fftogo

Gabe Rivera posted a message on Twitter

“Hilarious FriendFeed thread on how Techmeme shortchanged identi.ca, and BTW, is fascist. Don't miss my synopsis at the end: http://is.gd/Lrz”

yesterday at 1:26 pm - Link

Joao, Nikpay, Mitchell Tsai, Alex Hammer and 10 other people liked this

You are the anti-christ, Gabe. - l0ckergn0me

As someone who wrote one of the headline pieces on it, I whole-heartedly agree with your synopsis Gabe. - MG Siegler

That was very hillarious. I'm glad I advertised on Techmeme this month with everyone looking at Techmeme trying to figure out whether or not Gabe is evil or not. - Robert Scoble

Franklin Pettit posted an entry on FPettit.com

My Blog Has Been Louis Grayed!

yesterday at 7:24 am - Link

Svetlana Gladkova, Sarah Perez, Nikpay, RyanEs and 18 other people liked this

Congrats Franklin. It's always nice to see the little guys getting some exposure. Louis Gray is truly a class act, but we already knew that. :-) - Mike Fruchter

Hint: Take advantage of the bump :) - Charlie Anzman

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@Mike - Louis is a class act and truly respects the small independent blogger. - Franklin Pettit

@Charlie - I will definitely make the most of the bump. - Franklin Pettit

Very cool Franklin. You very much deserve to be "put on the map". - Hutch Carpenter

@Hutch - Thanks so much. - Franklin Pettit

congrats. it was his post that brought me by. - Rob Williams

Congratulations! I was Louis Grayed, too! We should all start a club. Or at the very least, a FriendFeed room. :) - Nathaniel Payne

@Nathaniel - Thanks I like Nerdflood. Your blog is great. Yes we should start a friendfeed room for those who have been LouisGrayed - Franklin Pettit

Sorta off-topic, but I created http://friendfeed.com/rooms/lo... - possible248

Oohhh... I am enjoying the comments here. Who's volunteering for August? - Louis Gray

Maybe I need to start a new blog... - Cyndy

You will never be obscure, Cyndy, only notorious. - Louis Gray

Duran Duran style or Biggie Smalls style? - Mark Trapp

I poppa phreakz all the honeyz... - Shey

*snort* As long as it's not Tori Spelling style. - Cyndy

Congrats Franklin, can't say you didn't deserve it - Dobromir Hadzhiev

I'd recommend you post an entry trying to measure the "Louis Gray Effect" in terms of RSS subscribers, or another metric you feel appropriate, in a couple weeks. - Denton Gentry

Duncan Riley posted a message on Twitter

“Maybe not Gabe's fault, but the biggest story for me today was by a wide margin Identi.ca. It never hit the top of Techmeme”

yesterday at 1:30 am - Link

Svetlana Gladkova, James Every, Joao, Satya and 41 other people liked this

still can't create an account. So weird. Are they just getting slammed this AM? - Drew Lucas

Drew, yeah. It's getting hit hard and not keeping up with the demand very well. - Akiva Moskovitz

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That's what I've been trying to say (not that it's anyone's fault though) -- that TM is what it is, and its strong point is not speed. It might never catch identi.ca as a top story, but if it got acquired by Microsoft or Google or TechCrunch, it would zoom right to the top and stay there. It's the nature of news, it starts out small and as it grows it settles on a few stories and repeats them over and over until something new starts, and we start over again. - Dave Winer

That's why I started TechJunk after doing the same thing for political news. Not to strangle the market (which is what TM/TC does, again no one's fault) but to act as a pied piper. As with blogging the way to get around group think is with individual judgment. Pretty soon the flaming will start, btw. :-) - Dave Winer

This is what I mean when I say that TechMeme has changed. Gabe is chasing Google News with TechMeme now, not covering what regular people care about. Although the YouTube story that's on top right now is pretty important for us to know about and care about too. I think this is why I look at FriendFeed AND Techmeme. If you do that you get a good view of all stories. - Robert Scoble

Why do you need to write about Identi.ca on Twitter and not the other way around? - paul mooney

i didnt see it hit my google reader feed at all, only on friendfeed. @scobleizer "regular people" don't care about it at all. - Jeremy Toeman

Dave's comment on speed and TM seems spot on -- I just looked at TM for the first time in week -- all the top stories are old (to the extent that they have been talked about on FF and maybe Twitter if it were ever running for hours and sometimes days) - Brian Sullivan

Scoble, maybe its conscious on Gabe's part or maybe the algorithm now does what all human beings do when put in the same position. It happened in the 90s when the computer press only reported three stories: Apple is dead, Microsoft is evil and Java is the future. If you tried to say blogging is the future and Windows is dead, and there is new Mac software, and Java makes lousy UIs and will be used server-side only, and check out Flash, no one would have written it up. - Dave Winer

You can fill in the blanks on what the big stories are in the late part of this decade (oy it's already the late part of the decade). When you look back ten years from now, it will be clear (probably) that Google has already peaked, and what was Viacom again? Scoble will be the new Master of the Universe, and TechCrunch will be about as interesting as News.com and Wired are today. - Dave Winer

Now will Twitter be the main pillar of the new Internet, or will something like Apache be that? People like me believe it's the Apache model that's likely to galvanize this. Twitter needs to fade into the background the same way Apache did and the same way blogging software did. But Twitter is doing everything they can to be sure they are front and center, which creates this conflict. In March they *were* starting to fade into the background, and great new things were happening there, esp in politics. - Dave Winer

Maybe it is because it is so slow and this morning I can't log in. - Warner Crocker

Early yesterday I was getting a downloadable file rather than the site and couldn't register until later in the afternoon. I couldn't even go to profiles without being asked to download a file. Very strange. This morning I stopped using it because the site was too slow. - LPH

identica.ca seems to be a direct clone of twitter - even down to the preformance issues... - Tom Quinn

Have tried to login all morning. No luck. - Barbara K. Baker

There is no doubt that a new site like identi.ca will suffer growing pains and performance problems. The big question in my mind is whether or not the community will contribute something to this open source project and try to make it better or just piss and moan about it. - Mike Doeff

They have a weird bug - their page redirects to a sub domain of their company, where the Identi.ca-code, but the links go back to Identi.ca, but form data isn't sent back to the company-sub-domain when they redirect you back. If you change the form-actions with Firebug, everything works. - sebmos

Techmeme should start linking FF discussion threads as "official" links on stories. They are frequently more interesting than what the other bloggers have to say about the same story. Not sure exactly how to do this but Gabe's pretty smart and I'm sure could figure out a way to do it. - Thomas Hawk

@Thomas...ahhhhhhhhh..brilliant idea !! Thats extacly what techmeme s/do and not only with FF butt other forum driven sites too - Peter Dawson

because techmeme are facists.. only a little though - Tyler

thats a great idea thomas - take away more from the people who create the content - love it! - Allen Stern

Oh my Godwin! I've been waiting nearly three years for someone to make such a comparison. Thank you Tyler! - Gabe Rivera

"Oh, my Godwin" .... :-) - Brian Sullivan

What the hell is Indica? - Richard

who is godwin, i dont see his or her comment? - Allen Stern

We all create the content Allen. Techmeme already links digg submissions to stories sometimes. I find the conversations at FF more interesting and mature frequently than the conversations at digg. It would seem a good fit to me. I'm sure Gabe could figure it out if he thought it added value. - Thomas Hawk

Ok Thomas thanks for your clarification. I am just hoping I get a lead sometime this week. - Allen Stern

Thomas: agreed FF threads tend to be be better than corresponding digg threads. But the problem with FF is the commentary around a post is typically scattered over multiple threads and often tricky to associate by machine (note Duncan's tweet above lacks a link). It's a partially solvable problem, but probably not worth it just to get FF comments right now. - Gabe Rivera

I never figured out what identi.ca was (Twitter clone? something else?) - but I made an account. :) - Don MacAskill

Funny.I got info about Identi.ca from Techmeme.You? - Igor Poltavskiy

Even I'VE never referred to Techmeme as "fascists." @Allen, I'm assuming Seth Godwin? may have been on his blog. - Cyndy

cyndy isnt that seth godin? im confused now - Allen Stern

Cyndy, read what Gabe wrote again. Gabe is talking to Tyler, who compared Techmeme to fascism. - Dan Kaplan

That's what I meant, Allen. Never mind. I'm confusing myself just replying. :) - Cyndy

Oh how I love FriendFeed! I've really really enjoyed reading this thread. I will now post a summary of what we've seen so far. - Gabe Rivera

SYNOPSIS: identi.ca, which almost topped Techmeme, should have topped Techmeme, because it's open source and therefore not just another buggy Twitter clone. This illustrates the problem with Techmeme, which TechJunk will help fix, and site owner Dave Winer should know because he knew 10 years ago what would be true and important today in tech. "Regular people" don't care about what's on Techmeme, but do, and should. (That last point was argued by the same person.) Techmeme may or may not be analogous to the Third Reich. Mike Godwin may or may not be Seth Godin. - Gabe Rivera

Godwin's Law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." - Yule Heibel

If it didn't sting so much that Synopsis would be hilarious - Nathan Eckenrode

Identi.ca is cool - but the GPL 3.0 license dramatically limits its usefulness as a base for other services to build from. - Soulhuntre via twhirl

this thread should've ended with the synopsis. nothing else will possibly add further value. including this comment. - Jeremy Toeman

@gaberivera's synopsis just gave me my first actual belly laugh of the day; and still giggling a little. Thanks, Gabe. - Merredith Branscombe

Gabe, I love the synopsis. So, you were comparing Seth Godin to the Third Reich right? ;) - Jackson Miller

Jackson, no -- not a fair comparison because people are still allowed to *comment* on the Third Reich. - Merredith Branscombe

oh if there is reference to Godwins law - then who are the Nazi's and who is Hitler on this thread ?? :)- - Peter Dawson

I think in this case TechMeme = Fascists = Nazis, which would make Gabe Hitler. (Disclaimer: This comment in no way, shape or form refelcts the opinion of the commenter and is simply a point of clarification.) - Ken Sheppardson

Fascism does NOT equal Nazism. One can be a fascist without murdering millions of people. http://tinyurl.com/64xk3y - Jeremy Toeman

Why is this supposedly a big story? Someone whips together a PHP app backed by a database and open sources it... woo hoo... How many people commenting on this or claiming it's a big deal have contributed to an open soure project? How many have run one that's gotten any traction? I've done and continue to do both. I think you all wet yourselves over the term without understanding when it is and isn't valuable. Tell me what value open source has in a web service? None. Gimme a break... this is rightly a non-story. - Jason Carreira via twhirl

This FF made me laugh. I'm glad I advertised on TechMeme. Everyone is looking at TechMeme to try to figure out the algorithm and whether or not Gabe is evil. :-) - Robert Scoble

Paul Buchheit posted a link

Cancer Cured? Granulocytes Treatment Worked 100 Percent In Mice Work But Will It Work In Humans? | Scientific Blogging

Tuesday at 1:50 am - via Bookmarklet - Link

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"The study, given the go-ahead by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, will involve treating human cancer patients with white blood cells from healthy young people whose immune systems produce cells with high levels of cancer-fighting activity. The basis of the study is the scientists' discovery, published five years ago, of a cancer-resistant mouse and their subsequent finding that white blood cells from that mouse and its offspring cured advanced cancers in ordinary laboratory mice. They have since identified similar cancer-killing activity in the white blood cells of some healthy humans. "In mice, we've been able to eradicate even highly aggressive forms of malignancy with extremely large tumors," Cui said. "Hopefully, we will see the same results in humans. Our laboratory studies indicate that this cancer-fighting ability is even stronger in healthy humans." The team has tested human cancer-fighting cells from healthy donors against human cervical, prostate and breast cancer cells in the laborator" - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet

it's like in "Heroes"! - Kevin LeCureux

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I <3 science. I'm getting a warm fuzzy feeling every time I hear about (yet another) breakthrough. - Tudor Bosman

Wow... I'm speechless. You always hope to hear about things like this and now, here it is... Wow. - Lisa L. Seifert

this is of a kind with the story Dan Kaplan posted...about the greyhounds... - edythe

how can someone read this and not "like" it? - Chris Hollander

Tudor: tend to agree reg. science, but I must admit after taking an epidemiology methodology course my initial reaction to medical breakthroughs is somewhat reluctant, but I hope this one is great. - Amund Tveit

Jason Calacanis posted a link

Looks like i'm at 25% of my Twitter follower base after a two weeks of FFing

Tuesday at 12:04 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

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kind of cool how quickly folks have switched from one service to the other. says something about competition and lockin.. like it doesn't exist any more. - Jason Calacanis via Bookmarklet

The iPhone interface the just released has made me want to be on FF more now. - Ralph Whitbeck

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Me too, Ralph. The iPhone interface for FriendFeed is very well done... Fast and not much functionality is lost from the regular web version. - Kambiz Kamrani

given that FriendFeed is a little more "work" than twitter, that kind of conversion rate is very impressive. - Robert Seidman

how do you know folks have switched? that's probably not 25% of the followers from Twitter....null conclusion - Julian Baldwin

well, you can add me here Jason. i have not abandoned twitter. but FF does replace pownce & *some* facebook activity for sure. - Barbara K. Baker

Good stat - that's a question a lot of Twitter's power users have...how can I transfer my community over here? - Hutch Carpenter

Jason, who says they're all switching? I use both so don't count me as a switch. - Mike Doeff

Julian: He doesn't know, but I think we can probably guess that he's right. - Eric Florenzano

@eric guess that he's right about what? the only observation is he has a lot of followers... - Julian Baldwin

Julian, since his primary base of followers are on Twitter, I think it's fair to guess that the bulk of his FriendFeed followers were responding to his twitter broadcasts. While Jason should've probably said "following me on FriendFeed in ADDITION to following me on Twitter" (instead of switching) if he has 1/4th as many followers on here as there, it's still pretty impressive after 2 weeks. - Robert Seidman

I'm not doubting how impressive it is, in fact a share of those followers are from Twitter but that doesn't tell us anything without more data.. I'm critical of values and conclusions.. - Julian Baldwin

ok, but on what grounds can you debunk the assumption that most of those followers came via Twitter? - Robert Seidman

Twitter is still something I use. All of my @ replies can be done through FriendFeed and, my own updates can be done via text or Twhirl now. The way I see it, FriendFeed streamlined Twitter. - Candace Holly

Jason, I don't think you can really say that folks have switched from one service to another that quickly. Granted Twitter problems have prompted me to use FriendFeed a lot more. However, I haven't stopped using Twitter either and I don't plan to anytime soon. I think both services go hand in hand. - Chris Rodgers

There's no stopping you. It doesn't matter the medium! - Alex Hammer

Me either, just using both network while also trying to use Jaiku, which is a really good surprise - Jean-François Amadei via twhirl

only 10% in my case, and still only a fraction of my friends on Twitter are the same as the friends I have on Facebook - different crowds, different crowds. - Adam

Mark Dykeman posted an entry on Broadcasting Brain

Who are your (virtual) heroes?

Tuesday at 2:51 pm - Link

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Fred Wilson is one of my favorite reads more recently - Julian Baldwin

I have to admit I first read this as (virtual) herpes. - Louis Gray

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Louis, then who is your (virtual) valtrex? - Jeff Quinton

Nick Carr. He has a healthy distaste for Kool-Aid. - Sprague D

Forgot about Nick Carr...I've been meaning to purchase Big Switch - Julian Baldwin

At the risk of not seizing the opportunity for a bunch of cheap laughs, Louis, do you have any virtual role models (text changed to avoid confusion... ;-) ) - Mark Dykeman

Scoble. I used to not understand him. Now I've developed a much better appreciation for what he does. Heavy info consumption and distribution, more direct conversations with people than anyone I know, and a good sense about the value of things. - Hutch Carpenter

Scoble opens all of us up to things we would not otherwise see...like his well documented trip to DC - Julian Baldwin

@Julian - I was lucky enough to get an advanced copy from the publisher and I gotta say that it was a good read. - Steven Hodson

@steven I'm ordering it off Amazon as we speak - Julian Baldwin

personally I don't really like the term hero as it has connatations of putting people on a pedestal. Now if you were to ask who I respect (which btw I think is worth more than being a hero) that would be a different story - Steven Hodson

@Steven - OK, then who do you respect in the blogosphere/social media space? - Mark Dykeman

yes, I was thinking less hero and more respectable intelligence - Julian Baldwin

@Mark: Scoble, Carr, Duncan Riley, Alexander van Elsas, Mathew Ingram, chartreuse ... that will do for now but there are a bunch more that I also respect but these were the first that came to mind - Steven Hodson

:-) - Mitchell Tsai

I'm going to point out the elephant in the middle of the room at this point: I don't see any women's names... - Mark Dykeman

I'll fix that, Mark. Sarah Perez is my hero. - Louis Gray

Great post mate. These days Cyndy and Leslie (Profy), Richard (RWW), Steve Hodson, Louis, Matt Ingram and people like you. I need fresh perspective and that's where it's coming from these days. - Steve Spalding

you're so right Mark.. Kara Swisher - Julian Baldwin

Gary Vaynerchuk. If I could be half as successful as he's become and still have the enthusiasm, I'd be okay with that. - Mark Trapp

All the developers of the cool products: Ben Golub, Alexander Marktl, Caleb Elston, the FriendFeed crew... - Louis Gray

Merlin Mann. - Scott Cropper

@louis we shouldn't forget Matt Mullenweg then - Julian Baldwin

Umair Haque - Mark Forman

@Mark I ended up writing a post on this :) http://www.winextra.com/2008/0... expanded on it a bit by adding in the "why's" - Steven Hodson

+1 for Umair Haque. - Atul Arora

I only follow my heroes. Why settle for less? - morten saxnaes

Louis, odd- I'm writing a blog entry about HPV (sorta related) at the moment. - Kimberly J via NoiseRiver

Louis Gray is my hero, too! - Sarah Perez

@Steven - checking out your post now... - Mark Dykeman

....and ditto everyone that's already been listed above as well as everyone who's linked at the top of my blog.... This is a great list! - Sarah Perez

Thanks Steven and Steve! I'd be sure to leave someone out, so I'm not making a list. :) - Cyndy

@Sarah, yeah, pretty good list, but who's this Scoble guy they keep talking about? I hear that name every now and then... ;-) [please, please, please understand that I'm kidding....] - Mark Dykeman

Clay Shirky, Fred Wilson, Michael Rosenblum, David Weinberger,and Denise Shiffman. - Dave Martin

Leo Laporte, John C. Dvorak, Kevin Rose, Ray Kurzweil, Cory Doctorow. They've all, in my mind, achieved greatness in a narrow niche that they saw thru from concept to completion. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Douglas Engelbart. By far. - Robert Scoble

Leo Leporte, the mighty Scoble, and the scrappy Louis Gray, who I feel like I've watched become a Powerhouse through FriendFeed and is a genuinely good guy from everything that I can tell. - Vince DeGeorge

@Robert - good call. - Mark Dykeman

@Robert - DE is a level up - the superhero - Dave Martin

Robert Scoble, Louis Gray, Thomas Hawk, Hutch Carpenter, Steve Hodson, Corvida, Duncan Riley, Alexander van Elsas. Only been reading blogs for a few months... It's pretty overwhelming what you guys keep up with. - Mitchell Tsai

Louis' comment is funny - Alex Hammer

If we need more proof that Friendfeed is a tech community (or Mark has only tech friends), look no further, if I'm not mistaking there isn't a single non-tech person on the hero list :-) - Alexander van Elsas

So to counterweight that a bit, I vote for Nelson Mandela, who just turned 90, Johan Cruyff who was one of the most brilliant soccer players ever around, Jimi Hendrix cause Little Wing is the most brilliant guitar piece I ever heard, Rik Mayall and Adrian Edmondson for bringing us Filthy, Rich and Catflap, Bottom, and a whole lot of other great comedy shows. I could go on for a while ;-) - Alexander van Elsas