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December 6 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

In the wake of FriendFeed+Facebook, I get the feeling it might be better to move the "conversation" to a service like Disqus rather than something like Google Reader. The model could be start your own Tumblr/Wordpress blog + Disqus, then sub to everyone you know via Disqus

August 15 - Comment - Like - Share

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That's the direction I'm heading in, as well. - Akiva Moskovitz

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you like tumblr vs posterous...I started using tumblr the idea...they have tons of themes being developed everyday! I like posterous aggregation way better though! - AlexKaris

Tumblr, Posterous, Wordpress... it fundamentally doesn't matter. My broader point is to take control of your own sharing platform, but then tack on distributed commenting/conversation vs just moving from one aggregator to another. - Ken Sheppardson

Not a good model - too much overhead to maintain for the people who would otherwise want to be part of the conversation. (Like me.) - Jason Miller

Yeah, I can see how that might be the case, Jason. Hm. - Ken Sheppardson

Will Disqus v3 make this easier? http://disqus.com/v3/ - Ken Sheppardson

I'm a huge fan of google reader. Not a fan of discussions on there though. I do, however, like Disqus. - Beau Liening from iPhone

What Jason said. Good idea but the model breaks down for people who don't feel like creating a Disqus account. - Laura Norvig

Is it a bad idea to just stay with what you have until it actually has changes you don't like? - Matt Hilton

I have a feeling that Google Wave will play a big part soon. - Mark Layton

A smart client could also use the Backtype API to show blog posts your friends reply on, even if the blog doesn't use Disqus. Come to think of it, it would be nice if Backtype would also aggregate "likes" of posts. For example, FriendFeed "likes" and Posterous/Tumblr "favorites". - Meryn Stol

Ahsan Ali aka. Slick to Ahsan's feed, Google Wave Developers, Google Wave

A (Google) Wave vs a FriendFeed Post. Here's a quick overview of the structure. (updated version here: http://docs.google.com/View...)

August 14 - Comment - Like - Share

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blip = post & blip = comment & a document can contain photos, rich text - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

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a wavelet provides access control. It provides a branch where participants can be different from another branch. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

a wave, itself, can also have participants: which implies they can see/control all the wavelets - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

I've written a bot that creates a post on FF for every blip... but it's not feasible. The alternative is to create a comment for every blip .. and thereby lose all formatting/photos. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Hmm, I should flesh out the FF side of it. An FF Post can have participants. A Comment has an author. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

From the Wave docs: "Waves are hosted live conversations between multiple participants". Excellent definition. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Did you create that graphic? - Chris Heath

Yes, Chris. With vym (mind-mapping software for linux). - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick from IM

cool - Chris Heath

Now if only I could get a login for Wave! - Rick Cogley

Rick, you will if you have applied for it ! Surprisingly, many people haven't. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick from IM

I'll need to update this mind-map further. Will post an updated one later. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

I've applied, but it looks like I'm waiting for the September invitations. - JR Holmes from iPod

I think anyone working in tech - not just programmers - can get access to the sandbox. You just have to pitch them a good reason :) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Ahsan, yeah that makes sense - Chris Heath

Yeah, seeing that I'd take the money and run too - sofarsoShawn

lol @ shawn :) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

You forgot that on Friendfeed, a post also has addressees. Addressing specific people on FriendFeed also allows for access control, since the post/thread/conversation will be private. If you post something to a private group (and not your home feed), the whole group will have access (and not the public). - Meryn Stol

Meryn, agreed. I need to work on this further. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick from IM

It's a pity FF doesn't allow me to edit/reattach inline images ;) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Sounds too complicated to start a new technology off with. They need to start more simple. - Jesse Stay

Jesse, the map is from a technical perspective .. visually, you'd just see a threaded conversation with (optionally) private sections. It is interesting, however, how much FF has achieved with a relatively simple model. Maybe their success is _because_ it was simple ? - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Yeah, the friendfeed side of this mindmap is very simplified right now. I really think Google Wave will run into some mainstream challenges for what I've read so far (don't have wave account yet). However, aren't you really just displaying the threaded feature of a Wavelet? That would just be the ability to comment to a comment in FriendFeed. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

manielse, yes. The major difference between the two is threading.. except in Wave, a comment is equal to a post itself (with photos, rich text, etc, multiple participants). Hence the recursive nature of the tree. A comment (blip) can have a reply, which can have a reply in turn.. and so on) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

But these are features that some of the FF users have wanted, to reply back to a comment and also with a richer content such as a diagram that explains the topic better. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Exactly :) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick from IM

Updated version as per Meryn's suggestions: http://docs.google.com/View... This is not meant to be an exhaustive mindmap - just an overview of the structural differences. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Nice - Chris Heath

Ahsan, I know how it looks visually - I'm on the dev sandbox. I still say it's too complicated for an initial launch. They need to start simple, the Google way. - Jesse Stay

Oh I agree that it definitely needs a lot of work. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick from IM

Google Wave is all about potential. In a sense, it's like handing someone a copy of Visual Studio or Eclipse and saying, 'Okay, now go build what you want!' The majority of people will say, 'Uh... what?' - Akiva Moskovitz

Akiva, agreed. That's why they haven't released it to the public yet. - Jesse Stay

Http was the same way - and look what we have now? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Interesting comment, Joelle. I wonder if Microsoft will branch off from the Wave server protocol at some point, like they did with XML, and do their own thing. :) Interesting times, ahead. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Ahsan -- what a great post! Pure gold. (And I happen to think that Google Wave is the wave (oops) of the future. But I need to get hands on with it for a few days to be sure. - Sean McBride

Glad you liked it, Sean. Be sure to view the updated version (see the link I've edited into the original post). - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

I didnt have a precise enough project to make it into the closed access, apart from having written time and time again that what we should have and want was an open standard, distributed system matching nearly word for word the wave press release... (although the reality will probably be different). AM more interested in what can be done on a node basis than writing bots. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

A key question in my mind: will Google Wave feel more cluttered than Friendfeed? The beauty of Friendfeed is the simplicity of the look and feel. Will more power features reduce the impression of simplicity and clarity? - Sean McBride

You really can't compare FriendFeed and GoogleWave, they're both completely different things. Google Wave is a set of technologies that I feel will contribute heavily to the next generation of social networking tools, however it will not replace them. http://jaredquinn.info/article... - Jared Quinn

Reshared to the Clonefeed/OpenFF room - Roberto Bonini

To answer Sean's question, the interface itself looks pretty, but inside the wave it can be difficult to manage: I don't like some of the keyboard shortcuts; the threading in a live chat becomes confusing. While the windowing is slick, you feel like you need more space (at least on my monitor). They need to work on the UI (see Jesse's points above). - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

It's nearly certain that people and companies will come up with different client "front end" apps which are slicker to use, focused on using wave for a specific purpose - live chat/discussion, document management, information sharing, location enabled services, archive access, tech support, games... - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

"the threading in a live chat becomes confusing" (I wondered about that from the first moment I saw a Google Wave demo -- it looked busy and noisy...) - Sean McBride

We strip the threading out then, sean..... non threaded real time conversations work perfectly well here on FF. - Roberto Bonini

Roberto -- I need to actually use Google Wave in threadless mode to compare it to Friendfeed. Can't wait.... - Sean McBride

Jesse Stay

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This is what I was seeing when I was talking to Louis Gray on our podcast the other day - Jesse Stay

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If I wear only a loincloth during the day - I can keep my thermostat 2 degrees higher and still be happy (via @rickbutts) He's nuts like me.

August 6 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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That's a crack up...lo - AlexKaris from Nambu

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RT @jowyang 11min Podcast: Three Things Your Marketing Leadership should know about the social web http://www.web-strategist.com/blog... (via @smmguide)

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Not everything that can be counted counts & not everything that counts can be counted.-Einstein

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and more yahoo layoffs as a result of the merger http://searchengineland.com/live-bl... & dude on call, 1 question per, not 3. geez

July 29 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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M F

The Intelligent Sea Turtles of Puerto Vallarta, Mexico - http://www.bootsnall.com/article...

July 29 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"Today, there are only seven living species of sea turtles worldwide and members of five or six of these species manage to visit Vallarta annually. Six of the seven species have hard shells and only one has a soft shell; it’s the leatherback turtle, the largest of them all and a periodic visitor to Vallarta. The leatherbacks grow for 30 years, from hatchlings weighing about an ounce, to maturity weighing up to 1,300 pounds and measuring up to 7 feet long and 5 feet wide; they can live to be more than 80 years old." - M F from Bookmarklet

This guy subscribes to a different definition of 'intelligence' than me. I know he did it to build up to the punchline about them returning every year, but still... - Eivind

Well yes I bet these turtles are not very familiar with algebra or PHP and they might not have a moral code or watch Big Brother, but they seem to be doing well what they are supposed to do which is still an achievement although I don't know if I would define it "intelligence". I am not always sure that being endowed with intelligence is always a blessing though but that's another issue altogether. - M F

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Mac sales in education, business markets lag for Apple http://www.appleinsider.com/article...

July 22 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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“Love nurtures us in every way possible and every way imaginable.” (from my new seminar "The ABCs of Love.")

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Congrats @loic new Seesmic Desktop looks very nice!

July 10 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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And gz for him bringing some ENERGY to his demo. Excellent - Mark

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I'm looking forward to the weekend... anyone else? - Melissa

May 29 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Robert Scoble to Robert's feed, khrisloux, Chris Saad

I'm hanging out with the JS-Kit people. Really cool commenting technology coming. Say hi here and show them the power of the real time web!

May 18 - Comment - Like - Share

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http://www.js-kit.com is their website. - Robert Scoble

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hi - mike "glemak" dunn

oh hai :) - Matt Hooper

They are getting the real time religion. I'm here with Khris Loux and Chris Saad. Hanging out at the Oola restaurant/bar on Folson. Hi Mike! - Robert Scoble

Hi, Robert. Go, real-time web, go! - W Christman

g'day Chris, Robert and Khris - Matt Hooper

this is the problem with the internet, these domains are terrible. - Sweyn Venderbush

Sweyn: I agree that getting a good domain is really hard. - Robert Scoble

Sweyn: did you see this tool for finding domains? http://instantdomainsearch.com/ - Robert Scoble

Hi Khris and everybody. - Bruce Lewis

Hi Chris! - David HC Soul

I own ez.com ... wanna buy it? - Don Strickland

Robert: Yes I do but I guess they did use it. js-kit.com is not the best of names - Sweyn Venderbush

Hey Bruce (from Khris) - Robert Scoble

But I wonder, do most blogs get enough activity that real-time would be interesting? They already offer mini-chat, which is a neat idea. - invariant - farewell FF

Don: sit on that man. thats your retirement money - Sweyn Venderbush

Yo JS-Kit dudes. Does that stand for "javascript kittens"? - RobinDotNet

registered in 1993 :-) - Don Strickland

Hey there Robert, Khris, and Chris - Ken Seto

hi robert - hanging out in ct watching hockey :) - mike "glemak" dunn

It's true, real-time matters much less on a blog... If a blog post only gets 10 comments over the period of a week, do you care if they are real-time? Hah - Colin

awesome stuff! used comments on http://globalgiving.com/momkows... - Robert

Hi! I will check this out--thanks Robert. - Sunshine

btw - I do love real time web ... which reminds me ... what ever happened to realtime.com - Don Strickland

Robert, you said "coming" -- any hint what the new features will be? - Bruce Lewis

Hi Robert, Khris, and Chris. Longtime HaloScan user, so you had me at 'hello.' :) - AJ in Nashville

I like definitely like realtime, but it seems to be that it depends on aggregation or centralization on some level. - invariant - farewell FF

Hey Robert...Cool Website - ashwin

Go Real Time Web! - Stephen Pickering

RobinDotNet: actually, if you look at their site in Chinese they have a kitten as a mascot. http://js-kit.com/blob... - Robert Scoble

My CMS provider uses JS-Kit and it works fairly well, but getting real time comments is defiantly the way to go. Make the move to real time JS! - Rodman

Well, the kitten sold me, even though I understand Chinese as well as I understand Greek. - RobinDotNet

Looks interesting; I'll pass on to my PM for perusal. - RobinDotNet

Since you said "really cool", the upcoming features probably don't include the boring one I asked for. - Bruce Lewis

Bruce: what boring features did you ask for? - Robert Scoble

I want a comment system that can be used with unlisted/noindex URLs, such that comments made on those URLs don't end up in people's public profiles. If some other comment system besides Disqus implements it first, then there will be two comment system options on OurDoings in no time. - Bruce Lewis

Awesome, love the features of their comment system. ONLY one thing missing that I saw. When I put in my email address - I was SURE it was going to go grab my gravatar. I did notice it gets avatars from twitter, facebook, etc...but in leiu of that, gravatar :) - Justin Hopkins from twhirl

hi JS-Kit! I haven't use your service. But I surely want to know what cool thing you geeks are cooking :D - Toni @ NavinoT

Well hi there - I am living proof the real time web is exactly 44 minutes behind schedule. :) - Jack Humphrey

Cheers guys! - George Dearing from BuddyFeed

h' bday Chris ! (well if you were in Aus I guess; so keep drinking till after midnight and read this then!) - David HC Soul

I think I put everyone to sleep over there with my boring details. Hey, Scobleizer did ask. And he could have given us hints about upcoming cool features. - Bruce Lewis

hello, and hi to the real time real web! ..does JS-Kit plan run Google Friend Connect? - Petr Buben

@Petr JS-Kit already has Google Friend Connect implemented as a login option - Chris Saad

@David heya mate - thanks for the bday love! - Chris Saad

Have fun - Stephen Baugh

@Chris. I see. thank you .... well, are you also running this bar ? or, do you plan to ... anyways, very nice site, and widgets! will have to give it a shot :] - Petr Buben

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@AlexKaris Love being an energy giver :) Thanks for the #ff and have a fab weekend sweetie!! And thanks for the RT @jeremymandile :)

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"All you need to do to receive guidance is to ask for it and then to listen." Sanaya Roman

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awesome quote - Ann Rusnak

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RT @sherrett: Just watched this most-incredible piece of video. Surfing a wave in HD, view from in the wave: http://www.youtube.com/watch...

RT @sherrett: Just watched this most-incredible piece of video. Surfing a wave in HD, view from in the wave: http://bit.ly/VRQYc

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I am thinking that in nine months there's going to be a whole bunch of babies as a result of this Twitter outage ;)

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@MariSmith Thanks so much Mari! So kind of you! And 84 responses to the social network poll so far. http://www.socializedpr.com/why-wou...

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