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Want some inspiration? Watch this, and learn how I discovered it because of today's plane crash:
mohammadk, David Lynch, Ronald and 40 other people liked this
http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog...
- Robert Scoble
I learned about this because of Janis Krum's blog. He was the guy who took the photo of today's plane crash and posted it to Twitter. His blog is here: http://www.janiskrums.com/ -- want some inspiration? Think things are hopeless? Watch that video and see if don't find some inspiration. Thanks TIm Ferriss and Janis!
- Robert Scoble
The paths we find things through are pretty weird. I know Tim personally but haven't had time to get to my RSS feeds lately. But, they come to me anyway. One of the lessons I've learned in my "media snacking" journey.
- Robert Scoble
That confirms it. I SUCK!
- Ron's Home And Hardware
I got to Janis' blog from his Twitter account. His photo today made me wonder who he was.
- Robert Scoble
Really cool video. Even cooler back story as to how you found it! I'm starting to get this FF thing!
- Troy Malone
✩ ✩ ✩ ✩ ✩ This is precisely what I'm talking about, Robert. Thank you.
- michael silverton
there's this kids 15 minutes of fame...
- Terry O'Fee
Terry: because of Twitter our fame allotment has been extended to 19 minutes. Didn't you get the memo?
- Robert Scoble
This was meant for me today. right now . next week. next year...next lifetime...thanks
- bcultral
I don't know if traditional market models can ever catch up to these phenomena. http://friendfeed.com/e...
- michael silverton
Robert - this is the first time you have made me cry - great find, thanks for sharing it.
- Ben Shoemate
Great find Robert, Nick speaks at our church all the time and all over the world, he hangs out after he speaks and he greets every single person who waits in line and gives everyone a hug. Here is Nick's site http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org/
- Kelly Johns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... There's a video floating around of his whole presentation and it's pretty awesome.
- Paul Reynolds
Wow. Thanks Robert.
- Nicola Quinn
Amazing!
- Amit Morson
I'm just grateful all survived so CNN breaking states! PTL!
- Melanie Reed
Still crying after watching this video and so angry at my self-absorbed life complaints. Today, right this very moment, this video has changed the way I view life.
- Janet
Very inspirational. The guy has done amazing things, and I definitely get the message - right up until he starts in with the evangelism. Is it just possible he could have achieved the same things on his own - or with a support system that didn't carry the Jesus branding?
- Mary B, VALUE author
Hi Mary, a heavy duty topic worthy of it's own thread, IMO http://is.gd/g3Ik
- michael silverton
Mary, I don't think it is a matter of Jesus "branding", it is his testimony, it is a genuine explanation of how he's been able to overcome his circumstances. I don't think Nick would be the man he is today if he would have "done it on his own"
- Kelly Johns
Moving, thanks!
- Alexandros Georgiadis
Tears in my coffee cup. Good way to start a day of opportunities for those with more. To whom much is given, much is expected. Thanks for sharing...awesome.
- Carl
Kelly, I suspect you're right. Especially since he's a preacher's kid. And I really do get that it can take a huge spiritual foundation to overcome big obstacles. But just once I'd like to see an inspirational story that doesn't turn out to be a lead-in to a Christianity message. Are we - as a culture - as Americans under the First Amendment - saying that nobody can overcome great obstacles who is not a Christian?
- Mary B, VALUE author
Let's see some examples of great inspiration from the secular world - or the other religious and spiritual traditions. For instance - Stephen Hawking has lived decades longer than anyone with ALS normally would.
- Mary B, VALUE author
Mary, Please rewatch this video, no where was this pushing a Christian message. I heard God, witnessing God. I believe this was more a faith in God, which is not exclusive to Christians. :)
- Janet
True. I made the mistake of watching a second video. And - the language in the first video is the lexicon of the Christian brand: witnessing, faith, God's plan. Witnessing and the idea of God's plan for a person or a community don't exist in, for example, Judaism, and the concept of faith in Judaism is rather nebulous, at least in the Reform tradition.
- Mary B, VALUE author
Just saw this post randomly. Hope things are well.
- Janis Krums
The new friendfeed is now up at http://beta.friendfeed.com/
Vlad Laurentiu, DAL, Garin Kilpatrick and 81 other people liked this
woah this is fast...
- Zee.
almost unusable :(
- directeur
i love how the comments load
- Lasse Johnsen
this is awesome
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
works as well on beta.friendfeed.com
- Jaap Willem
Holy cow this is freaking awesome
- Craig Eddy
hard to follow comments if you look else where
- Yunus Tunak
It's a great update
- Lucas Araujo
from twhirl
Isn't it?
- Robert Scoble
well, my first vote is no. i'm one of the 'aggregator' people. if like FF cuz it's *not* a live stream. bummer.
- MikeAmundsen
Yep, it's live.
- Yuval Atzmon
I love it :) Too fast, so I dialed it down by immediately switching over to one of my LISTS - that was way better! List Mgmt is a must for real time feed mfmt
- Susan Beebe
very nice, thanks for the link.
- Nathan Eckenrode
I like this!
- António Teixeira
didn't love it.
- Gökmen Karasu
Mike: that was my first feature request: to have an aggregator view.
- Robert Scoble
Mike, I'm with you. Try Streamy at http://www.streamy.com. You might find you like it more.
- Kevin Kuphal
Wow ! ... LOVE the new look ! very nice
- Rich White
the "XX seconds ago" does not update in realtime, though
- Till
This is a little too fast!!
- Niall Connellan
Pretty cool
- Fred Hsu
wow!! its really dynamic first impressions = awesome!
- Jay
Really nice.. quick and clean
- Louis-Philippe Gauthier
Oh man this is really addicting already.
- Justin Yost
I like the look, and the way the new likes and comments just show up as part of the post instead of a whole new line. But the whole thing being real time, and updating while you are trying to write out a comment is a bit much. I imagine if you are following thousands of people this will become really hard to manage.
- Simon Wicks
Makes for a fun Monday for sure.
- Jeff Stannard
wow! this is really gonna hamper productivity. Plus, Information overload! Hope it doesn't get too distracting.
- Tarun
Jason: on the iPhone there are still bugs. It's hard to click like in the real time feed.
- Robert Scoble
Productivity is gone :-/
- Susan Beebe
I agree.
- Teri Temme
Robert - you just have to be FAST! :)
- Susan Beebe
This is twitter on crack!
- Andreas Klinger
Nice to see that this is all real-time now.
- Geoffrey Wiseman
wow, you can see the comments appearing in real time... niice
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
So how are you supposed to read anything when it's always moving?
- Todd Hoff
lies
- Stuart Evans
This is actually really cool
- Kurt Jarchow
Direct Messages are pretty cool.
- Justin Yost
It is way too fast. Need a setting for refreshing on an interval, rather than real time.
- Josue Fontanez
Oooo the page is moving. Color me impressed
- Marcus Beagley
I am getting dizzy with so much speed. LOL
- Carlos Lorenzo
Where's the re-share and link to this entry? Also, can't find preferences link.
- Rui Pereira
Robert how many direct messages did you get?
- İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
Firendfeed's problem isn't down to technology its down to name. Twitter has been behind FF for ages, but its name and the whole "Tweet" thing latches on with average people where as FF appeals to geeks like us that can appreaciate the differences and can remember more than one technology buzz work.
- Mark Ritchie
Feed aggregation and sharing meets real-time messaging--this is a powerful unified communications platform--wait till they integrate real-time video!
- Rory Conway
well it's a pretty radical change, at first glance I like but can see how this is going to be very difficult to keep up with
- Dave Schwab
ok now it works hmm i think ive seen this beforeeeee ooo twitter maybe
- Stuart Evans
from twhirl
FF needs rating (like) of comments - how do they want to filter the good ones at live speed otherwise
- Andreas Klinger
Looks kinda like Twitter, but that's not bad because I like Twitter! :)
- Svartling
This seems more intuitive somehow.
- craterdweller
I like how the content is moved to the left and and the operations are to the right.
- Todd Hoff
Found the link to this entry: click on the time (how un-intuitive :)
- Rui Pereira
Twitter crashed; wonder if this buzz helped
- Kathryn Martyn
@mark ritchie - no, I don't think this is the problem. The mass market doesn't neccessarily want an overwhelmingly rich feature set. A simple proposition/UI often satisfies more people. Friendfeed, (and to an extent twitter tools such as tweetdeck) turns digital communication into a full-time occupation - as William Gibson said '‘They sat around accessing [social] media all day and talking about it, and nothing ever seemed to get done.’'
- jeremy ettinghausen
Damian - thanks for noticing that - sounds cool huh?!
- Susan Beebe
Not so sure all feeds should be equal. Knowing something from twitter for example is critical to the amount of attention I'll give it.
- Todd Hoff
WHY DOES IT NEED HULK SMASH HANDS?
- James
Seems much faster, love the real-tome comments.
- Alex Scrivener
FF has been my best bud for close to a year. without a solid aggregator feature, i'm gonna hafta get a new best friend.
- MikeAmundsen
not sure i like mixing users and groups into subscriptions, either. like the DM option (we'll see how that goes), like the "My Discussions" (do that lots now)
- MikeAmundsen
Wow. This is a game changer. By commenting on an entry in the main feed you are basically initiating a direct message conversation with everyone who is tuned into that entry.
- Barak B
easier to use,seems to be faster than the older and i like the new presentation :) !
- Alice Cordonnier
Like the UI - less wasted space & grouping of items more visual. I love innovation:)
- Dave Blankenship
Still needs some work: Can't add new feeds, updates are too fast, no preferences ... Like it thou!
- Rui Pereira
Right, read the FAQ: http://beta.friendfeed.com/about...
- Rui Pereira
It's ok. I'm not overwhelmed with the changes.
- Trevor Trumbo
dont like, but the concept is nice
- Jordi Rivero
Generally like all the design changes. Looks nice.
- Todd Hoff
When I'm reading comments and they start scrolling down, that is not good. I drink from a glass, not a firehose.
- Todd Hoff
it shouldn't be like real time ... and the style is not good too ...
- Viva Vida
what as the big fuss about? its good, but not "great"! and plenty of beta issues - like the offscreen updates shifting text you are reading "onscreen"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @scobelizer, is there an underhanded deal going on that we don't know about... you're note usually *this* pawny about the hype!
- simran
Upside Of A Down Economy: Crocs To Go Out Of Business - http://www.manolith.com/2009...
Andrew Currie, Chris Warfield, Iggy Kin and 93 other people liked this
BEST. NEWS. EVER! Happy Friday to me!
- Mona Nomura
from Bookmarklet
OMG! That really is the best news ever! My hatred for those know no bounds!
- John Wang
happy and sad. Sad b/c more ppl are out of jobs
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
I feel horrible since they're folding but ECSTATIC those things will FINALLY no longer be produced!!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
I'm kind of sad. They are good for the beach.
- Rodfather
Hit the close out sale, Rodfather
- Mona Nomura
I wish I could LOVE a post.
- Chieze Okoye
of course. by no means am I happy that people will be out of jobs. but i really am happy beyond belief that the horrific monstrosities will be gone.
- John Wang
What are you guys so excited about? There are already knock-offs out there, and established footwear manufacturers will make them as long as they sell.
- Kevin L
YAY!!!!!
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
What will we have to make fun of now?
- Tamara
Knock-offs are made because ogs sell. If the OGs are no longer produced - so long knock-offs! It's only a matter of time until they become EXTINCT. Thank god!!! Tamara - Bluetooth headsets ;)
- Mona Nomura
As many people as I see wearing them, this is surprising news. Awesome news, but surprising.
- Sarah Perez
YES.
- felix
YAY! I always thought crocs looked like toys on people's feet!
- ursi
My favorite house shoes.
- Yolanda
oh no... will there now be a whole secondary market for these things? collectors and croc junkies paying obscene money for the dwindling supply?? Maybe I'll stock up on them now. ;)
- felix
Over like
- Pete D
Dust off your ebay accounts!
- Mona Nomura
@Mona Yes! I like this idea
- Tamara
I probably wouldn't have that big of a problem with them, if more people took care of their feet. OMG gross.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Sad, really. I know people who work while standing all day who thought these shoes were a gift from God. Hate to see them go for that reason. Personally, I never "got into" them.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
from fftogo
THere are tons of other options - in soles, bunyon shoes, podiatrist certified, etc. Those things are just plain ugly.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Boo! Great as house shoes or on the beach!
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Flip flops are your best friend!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
I hate flip-flops too - but they're comfy at home :)
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Andru you just broke the interwebs
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
Hide for Andru Edwards comment
- Mil∂d
AND with flip-flops, there's COMPLETE foot exposure going on so people tend to take care of their feet!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
my kids love their crocs. I love mine. and they are cute sandles. not ugly.
- Erin @queenofspain
Swiss cheese for feet = DO NOT WANT
- Mona Nomura
from IM
A) We're not going out of business. B) we have other stuff that aren't the "ugly" iconic shoes everyone knows and c) Losing my job wouldn't be the best news ever. :-p Seriously though - if people talked about our OTHER shoes, maybe we can move on from the comfort but ugly talk into just comfortable and EVERYONE will be happy.....
- George Smith
the company is also very active in social media
- Erin @queenofspain
I AM SO HAPPY
- Mike Nayyar
I hear their social media guy is wicked awesome, cute, and funny....errrr hi everyone
- George Smith
Hahahhaha. Omg I am mortified - George, I will never celebrate you losing your job. SORRY. I just HATE those shoes!
- Mona Nomura
They are ugly--and they seem like they last forever--we'll still be seeing them around for awhile yet.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Must pass this on.
- Kevin (barely visible)
Erin - those look like logger women shoes.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Best story ever - when I was interviewed at Crocs, they asked me what I thought of the company. I said I was impressed with their growth but, and I quote "I'm from New York - You'll never see me wearing those ugly shoes." I was hired immediately. I wear Crocs daily - not the iconic ones - but all our other shoes. I don't like some stuff we do, hate others, and am completely passionate about the ones I love. We're not just a one shoe company! ;-)
- George Smith
George - I stand corrected http://twitter.com/Mona... Good to know you still have your job! And I LOVE the interview story LOL
- Mona Nomura
Whoa. EDIT: +10 George. Good to see you're up and working.
- Derrick
No problem. I figured I'd correct you because I knew you'd listen and you're also always online. ha. We are making some cool stuff and I always want to hear what other people WANT. I mean - our consumers are "people with feet." If you don't like what we do, tell us what you want and let us try. Comfort doesn't have to come in swiss cheese shoes. lol
- George Smith
hahahha but props to you for being up on your game!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Hey - the reason I know you're always online is that I'm always online. That and My patented crocs spidey sense.
- George Smith
Mona, not saying you are one, but the fact someone went to the trouble of writing a definition for "croc-o-phobe" says something about the croc wars. http://shoeblogs.com/2007... :)
- Micah
Major props to you George, for being up on your social media game. You epitomize a 'good' community manager. ;) Though I still hate those shoes hahahaha ;)
- Mona Nomura
Hey - I don't own a pair with holes. I wear these: http://bit.ly/OzTKG or our Flip Flops religiously. I would probably quit if they made me wear the ones with holes on them. I may love working for Crocs, but I like being the real me a lot more.
- George Smith
Didn't Crocs acquire Bite Shoes (the running sandals company)? Glad they're not going out of business.
- Andrew C (✓)
so long... farewell... good bye.....
- Harold
Well I'm going against the grain here and have to say for a long time I was a croc mocker but I had a change of heart when I wore my mates pair fishing on my boat. Yes they look bad and the bright colours suck but talk about the best shoe for walking in the water fishing and grippies shoe for fishing on the boat. For me a sad day to all you hates please spare a though for me when my fishing crocs wear out where do I turn what do I wear suggestion are welcome. 8(
- John Spencer
from BuddyFeed
@Andrew - yeah we did acquire Bite (they did golf shoes and running sandals). Here's an initial example of the golf shoes: http://bit.ly/BiteisnowCrocs
- George Smith
Jason hahahha. Chia pets are 10+ years and still going strong. But you are FUNNY.
- Mona Nomura
HAAALLELUJAH
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
wait...chia pets are cool. At least the og ones are. I don't know about the new versions of them though
- Tamara
So what will be the next fad?
- Iphigenie
Pope condoms joelle
- SteVe "Beefy Miracle" C
Yeah, I hate that crap!
- Susan Beebe
wait, I just saw that George here said that they *aren't* going out of business. so what actually happened?
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
They og article said they MIGHT. George said no. So I Tweeted a rumor smash. :)
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Gee... I wear them at work. As a nurse, their great at work.
- Sean
All this over some shoes? what the heck people?
- Bwana ☠
also? lookie at her shoes http://twitpic.com/2imp1
- Erin @queenofspain
<3
- George Smith
OK, QofS, those are some cute crocs on a cute little princess!
- ursi
Dru OMG I can't believe it took this long for me to figure out your super long comment. Deleted, btw. And Erin's Hala is an exception.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, i LOVE my Crocs :-P my feet are in perfect shape thanks to this brilliant brand, thank you!
- Majento
I'm so happy! My wife wears 'em and buys for my youngest as well. I think they are SO ugly.
- Herb Hernandez
Goodbye and Good Riddance!
- Kyle Judkins
It becomes other people's concerns when WAY too many people that don't take care of their feet expose it for COMFORT. Plus, Crocs colors are atrocious. It's criminal, unless you do it right (like Erin's daughter)
- Mona Nomura
but i just saw earlier a pic of a new line of crocs and they looked good :(
- chaz2b
Relax, they're not going out of business! This was a rumor that was squashed :)
- Mona Nomura
no, i just posted the link i was talkling about, http://shop.crocs.com/c-4-foo...
- chaz2b
wooooohooo!
- Christian (Simply X)
I hate this world
- Bwana ☠
It's true that some of the colors are way off, i only buy black ones & they're cool
- Majento
I don't think they will ever go away. Just because you are all hating on them doesn't change the fact that they rock. And wall mart will always sell knock off crocs because they can make a killing. Parents love crocs for kids. If Crocs need to reorg to get past relying on debt to operate so be it.
- Christian Burns
Lol - I'm so far behind this week!! Glad to see George already dropped by and squashed the rumor - after Crocs saved my feet in Austin @ SxSW (thanks to George) I'm a die-hard fan - and no, not of the old-style Mickey Mouse shoes - but of the cute ones I wore all over down there that no one would've known were crocs except I couldn't help telling everyone! :)
- Lucretia Pruitt
I was a "croc-hater" too for awhile. My kids absolutely love them. Personally, I own Nike, Adidas, Prada, Tommy Bahama and Croc flip-flops (normal looking) and the Crocs are by far the most comfortable.
- Adam Rogers
I'm with Adam. I don't wear them myself, but my daughter loves them. And if she loves them and can put them on herself (she's 3), they're winners in my book.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
And like someone above said - they're not going away. There are too many knock-offs for the style to go away.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
heh. at the horrific prices they charge for original Crocs, I went and shamelessly bought knock-offs at roughly 10% of the price - a whole rainbow collection. my feet love them when I go malling. I save my original Hush Puppies for the times I need to put up an "image" for other people. =)
- Starshadow Rivaulx
My kids love them. I do not. To each, their own.
- Martha
Exclusive: Twitter integration coming to OnStar - http://www.gearlive.com/news...
Susan Beebe, Daniel Rowley, Matthew Sauer and 3 other people liked this
Facebook Reverts Terms of Service After Complaints - http://www.insidefacebook.com/2009...
Katy Pearce, Kol Tregaskes, Rodney Rumford and 17 other people liked this
i think this is just a PR play. eventually, incrementally, everything in that loathsome T.O.S. will bleed its way back into the "contract" FB has with their users (present company included). they showed their hand. after the uproar dies down, all your base will still belong to FB.
- .LAG liked that
I'm sure the vast majority of users were completely unaware of the fuss.
- Jinni
Agreed. The language is so condescending. We didn't get it wrong. You stupid users just didn't understand.
- Anton Mannering
from twhirl
@Chris what's the right thing in this situation?
- Joel
Joel: removing the "we can change the TOS whenever we like and you automaticly accepted it" would be a nice start.
- Marcos Marado
what everyone thinks you do on twitter - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Keith Pelczarski, Herb Hernandez, Igor Poltavskiy and 5 other people liked this
In the grand scheme of things, that's what everybody is doing, no matter how well-intentioned ;)
- David Wilson
hahahaha. I illustrated something like this awhile ago. How to annoy people on Twitter. Do this: http://twitter.com/tweetfreak
- Shawn Farner
that represents 99.25% of all tweets
- Allen Stern
You mean that's not what you're supposed to be doing on Twitter?
- Rex Hammock
I get that all the time as well. It's like we're back in 2001 when the uninitiated thought a blog meant the daily ramblings of angsty teenagers.
- Dylan Parker
mainstream:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Hacking Twitter (Wired.com) - http://blog.wired.com/busines...
Moses Kpetigo, Deborah Micek, Jesper Lind and 36 other people liked this
Just amazing what can be done with 140 characters.
- David Bisset (sn)
With my luck my washing machine would get more followers than me.
- Keith James Designs
me too Keith :-/
- David Wynn
cool. i want my xbox 360 to tweet
- David
@David - http://duncanmackenzie.net/blog...
- Andrew Terry
I would like to tie in a GPS tracker w/ twitter - many uses right there.
- David Bisset (sn)
Bisset, The Brightkite iPhone app can do that with the 3G.
- coldbrew
Ma.gnolia Using FriendFeed to Restore Users' Data | Epicenter from Wired.com - http://blog.wired.com/busines...
Nate Koechley, Jesper Lind, Andrei M. Marinescu and 65 other people liked this
"Tuesday morning, a new automated tool popped up that shows Ma.gnolia is using FriendFeed to help repopulate its database. If you're a user of both services and you previously connected your accounts so your Ma.gnolia bookmarks show up in your FriendFeed stream, Ma.gnolia can gather up everything you saved by querying FriendFeed. The automated tool at recovery.ma.gnolia.com asks for your FriendFeed nickname and your FriendFeeed remote key. Every user has a unique key, and you don't need to find it or have it memorized. Just make sure you're logged in to FriendFeed and click on the access link provided by Ma.gnolia. You'll be able to copy your key."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
cool
- Erhan Erdoğan
Very cool Paul.
- Hutch Carpenter
It found 36 bookmarks if I remember correctly, when I tried it
- Tyson Key
Ah, redundancy in the cloud partly saves the day. Cloud redundancy is going to become a very important concept.
- Sean McBride
Awesome sauce!
- Gavin
wow, interesting way to gleen data :) grab it from a reliable, stable source like FF!
- Susan Beebe
Susan -- Murphy's Law applies to everyone equally.
- Dave Winer
Replicate and find is the new backup and restore
- Alan Cheslow
This is a very innovative way of restoring the data (even though it may not be a full recovery), but kudos to the one who thought of this idea, and to FF for helping Ma.gnolia in times of crisis.
- Winston Teo
Dave - sooo true!
- Susan Beebe
Of course, it works only if you been importing Magnolia into FriendFeed (before the server crash and data loss).
- John Lam
That's great! I wondered if something like were possible.
- Jandy
Scoble says blog = resume. I say resumes are, were and always have been the WORST possible way to select employees. Your online presence is replacing your resume and is an order of magnitude better way for employers to discover YOU and decide if YOU fit. Am I wrong?
Kelli Schmith, Dimitar Vesselinov, Xander Robar and 32 other people liked this
Unfortunately, the world is revolving and your online presence does become a part of your resume...
- Mona Nomura
ding ding ding
- andy brudtkuhl
Mona - I'd say replacing, not revolving. Why do you need my resume? Check linkedin, my blog, facebook, etc... what else do you want to know?
- Brian Roy
The problem with Scoble's idea is that not everyone is a good writer and not every good candidate cares about personal brand and self-promotion through blogs. A great software engineer might not blog about technology and instead might write about food or model trains or anything other than what he does at his job. How would this blog-centric vetting work for him?
- Akiva
I guess one way to resolve this is by using a site that develops a resume for you and provides you a link to give to potential employers. JobFox is pretty good.
- Shevonne
Shevonne - Forget about a resume... what is the hangup with that ANCIENT way of doing things. They need to know stuff about you (more than experience, education and certifications)... where is that stuff? For me it is LinkedIn, my Blog, Facebook, etc... what is the point of the old form piece of paper?
- Brian Roy
I say it completely depends on the job you want. There are a lot of jobs where they want a real, regular resume and don't care at all about your online presence, and jobs where your online presence may actually hurt your chances.
- Nine Ferdinand
Another thing I don't like about this idea is that you're essentially 'on the clock' 24/7 if everything you do online reflects you as a potential employee. The Internet is escapism for me and I do some extremely goofy things on it for amusement. Sure, some sites, such as LinkedIn, are job-oriented but FriendFeed? Hell, no. I come here to enjoy myself, not to impress employers looking for programmers. In fact, I rarely talk about my field here.
- Akiva
And here is the secret: companies don't hire you for what is on your resume... they are looking for "fit". You need to fit in. If the company values consensus and you are a rebel - you don't fit. If the company values "just get it done" and you want to make everyone happy before getting it done... you don't fit.
- Brian Roy
I'm pretty sure I got my job because of my resume and the interview, not beceause of who I am online.
- Nine Ferdinand
I agree with Ninth's first comment. That's true for the majority of non-geek oriented jobs, although I have to assume that Scoble is talking about all employees in geek fields, not all employees for all types of jobs.
- Rochelle
You got the interview based on your resume... you got the job because of the interview... what do you think they were evaluating in the interview?
- Brian Roy
Well they weren't evaluating my online presence, I know that much.
- Nine Ferdinand
Brian, we all know how the interview process works. You haven't uncovered some secret here.
- Akiva
Your online presence is an extension of you. A reflection of who you are, how you operate, how you think, solve problems, interact with others, etc. That is what they were evaluating in the interview... no?
- Brian Roy
Akiva - I'm not suggesting I have... I'm suggesting that your online presence is a better representation of you and what you bring to the table than a resume (or potentially even a resume + interview). Sorry for the leading question...
- Brian Roy
Brian, no. They weren't. They were interviewing ME. They saw nothing of my online presence. Even if they ran searches (and I'm sure they did), work-me is not online-me.
- Nine Ferdinand
Brian, sure, but, as I wrote above, not everyone's online presence is built to groom them for an interview. A lot of people use the Internet as a diversion, not to build up popularity. If they were to look at my online presence, they'd be hard pressed to even figure out that I wrote code for a living or that I've been doing it for nearly ten years. My Internet presence (if I even have one) is not an extension of me as a potential employee.
- Akiva
Just want to point out for many management and executive level jobs, having a personal blog might be held against you. Non-disclosure and corporate discretion covers most of what you do, and blathering about your work online would be bad form indeed.
- Nadine Schaeffer
Akiva - I just flipped you your feed on FF and it is abundantly clear to me that you both write code and have been doing it for quite some time. I can also discern that you not only write code but get some juice from helping others write better code... and you are not pushy about it... you offer encouraging advice... Now I may not be 100% right... because I only looked at the first page for like 45 seconds...
- Brian Roy
That's only because I just so happened to be talking about C# yesterday. I often go days and weeks without mentioning coding at all. You're right about your assessment, though. But, yesterday was a bit of a fluke.
- Akiva
Akiva - but I can search for you + C# + Java + dot net - And the context... how you drop it in casually and aren't obsessed with JUST THAT tells me you are multi-dimensional, not obsessed with coding (in other words you are capable of a healthy balance), etc. - If you are looking to hire aren't all of these things exactly what you want to know? I know I do...
- Brian Roy
the problem with resumes is many employers/hr managers are so narrow minded that they ignore them all together and are much more interested in you filling out a bunch of blanks on a piece of paper and judging you from that.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Akiva - check this out :) http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Brian Roy
Jason - I can tell you from experience... they (we) skim them and look for "check boxes" to divide them up into "interview" and "no interview" piles. That is pretty much it. Oh yeah and if I can't find everything I need checked off in about 4 minutes... it is going in the "no interview" pile.
- Brian Roy
Brian, cut that out! I guess what I'm really trying to say is that if you extend the hiring process to stuff like my FriendFeed, it puts pressure on me to be on my best behavior at all times. I'm fine with dovetailing my personality with my job but not when I'm goofing off on the Internet. I would hate to think that I always have to censor myself here on FriendFeed because some employer might judge me poorly over what I do here in my spare time.
- Akiva
Akiva, that's my feeling exactly. It's why I don't use my real name for places like this or LiveJournal... or even my blog.
- Nine Ferdinand
Don't you want to hire people who have the capacity to "goof off" - Especially developers... I mean if I have to work with you for 18 hours straight to meet a code complete deadline and you are anti-social and BORING I might have to find a bridge to jump off of. Again... goes back to "fit".
- Brian Roy
I agree with Akiva that spare time and work time should remain separate. Unless my spare-time actions are likely to bring my employer/business/clients into disrepute, then it should be off-limits. No-one, but no-one is 100% on best behaviour all the time in any case. That would make life very boring indeed.
- Ian May
I think in limited areas, that may be true, but let's put it into perspective. There are 150+ million US workers; FF has way less than 1% of that number and Facebook is less than 10%. How is a blog/online presense a reasonable factor for hiring outside of tech or like fields? It's not. A resume should, and can, act as a simple descriptor of your skill set; an employer can and should...
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- Bob M. Montgomery
from twhirl
Further to that. I am me. If 'me' doesn't fit with what someone is looking for to fill a position, or if I am expected to radically change to 'fit' in with that position, then, it's the wrong position for me.
- Ian May
Brian, just to be clear, I keep interviews on even footing once I'm on the phone or, especially, once I'm in the room. I don't pretend to be someone else in an interview and I let my personality show. I show up dressed as how I expect to dress each day for work. At the same time, I am evaluating them. I've ended interviews early when I realized that they weren't a match for me.
- Akiva
So Ian - you are not going to socialize with the people you work with? You won't discuss what you do in your "spare-time" around the office? You made my "fit" point for me... you don't want to work somewhere that forces you to subvert your personality... and they don't want you to work there...
- Brian Roy
Bob - Agree, we are not there yet... but we are headed there. And I can't think of a single problem with it.
- Brian Roy
And your blog isn't your online presence? It definitely is part of it. It's not the whole picture, but most people will look at your blog and then do a background check on you to assess your online presence.
- Tamar Weinberg
Nadine - just saw your comment. Yes, it will be held against you from time to time (the simple fact that you have a blog). And you will have to observe the companies blogging/social media policy. But if they don't want you BECAUSE you have a blog... do you want to work there? What does that say about the culture and their approach - transparency, etc?
- Brian Roy
Tamar - agree. In fact my about page is just links to LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter and FriendFeed.
- Brian Roy
Brian: I am just pointing out that for different jobs, different rules apply. Also, by way of example, designers are still judged more by their portfolios than aught else. A blog is just not a one size fits all solution for job applications.
- Nadine Schaeffer
Perhaps one's online presence can work alongside a résumé in helping an employer get a better handle on you as a person but I don't think that it should completely supplant a résumé.
- Akiva
So... if they are going to review your LinkedIn, Blog, FF, Twitter (etc) - what exactly is the point of the resume... doesn't it become a fancy way to say "I'd like to be considered"? @Peter - I can sort just as (or more) quickly based on LinkedIn
- Brian Roy
I wonder if it might be a violation of hiring practices to review a person's blog? Sure the person is making the information public, but aren't companies restricted from trying to ascertain some of that personal info? If I mention to you in an interview that I read your blog and your blog mentions that you have a disability, and I don't hire you, could you sue my company over unfair hiring practices?
- Kevin Goldsmith
from twhirl
Kevin, a disability is different. There are laws that protect that. If you blog about loving cats and your potential employer hates cats so they don't hire you, I don't think you'd have a chance in terms of a lawsuit. There's no law protecting people who like cats.
- Rochelle
In some cases you are not allowed to blog about your work experiences, or strongly discouraged from doing so. There maybe be NDAs in effect, and you could get in trouble for releasing company IP. I choose not to blog about my current projects with employers (or even mention where I work) because I don't want to have to put a disclaimer on my blog about the fact that everything is my...
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- Lindsay
Although a blog can't always show your skills. Unless you show your work there or something along those lines. But, I can see looking at someone's blog or online presence to see what kind of person they may be or what their personality is like.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Rochelle - and there should be :)
- Brian Roy
Lindsay - agree. I don't (ok.. I just did recently but only after having been gone for 8 months) talk about my previous employer - just to avoid the impression of impropriety. That being said.. if you go to linked in you can see who it was so... Regarding NDA/etc - you will have to adhere to the companies blogging/Social Media policy (you'd be surprised how many have them now).
- Brian Roy
Again, I think in certain environments, especially places with offices, this might be the case. However, if I'm hiring a fireman, I really don't care about your addiction to LOLCats and Scoble's twitter feed up front; what a resume affords me, as an employer, is the ability to quickly determine if you have the required training/skills to be a fireman—that's the purpose of a resume. I think this is the case for most jobs, and again, the numbers simply don't bear out Scoble's assertion.
- Bob M. Montgomery
As an aside, I actually think this is a valuable discussion, and resumes will move to and evolve on the Web. I just don't think we're anywhere near that now.
- Bob M. Montgomery
Kevin, if it's public you can't stop them... and it would be difficult to prove that they reviewed your blog and that was the factor in why you weren't interviewed. If it's easy to find in a Google Search it's potentially a liability for you. That's why there are all these services sprung up recently to help you "clean up your reputation" online. There's a fine line we walk between privacy and participation... it's too bad there's no way to have contexts on the web so you can control your information.
- Lindsay
Bob - A resume just tells me you can make a convincing case you have those skills. And if that fireman/woman is working 3 on 2 off and lives in the firehouse for 3 days you can bet your <well you know> that I want to assess his/her personality and determine if he/she will fit in. And I still agree we are not there yet... but moving in that direction rapidly.
- Brian Roy
Bob, how about for fields with little/no technology component? 100% non-geek jobs? Will those resumes go completely web-based too?
- Rochelle
I am sure both matter. I used resumes to get an overview of experience, then checked web presence to see if it was consistent.
- Karoli
I'm down with common sense. I've been on a few hiring committees for selecting student programmers to help us out. It's probably not a good idea to mention a blog at all because I'd probably visit it. If you mention spending your free time playing WoW with fat does of Twitter, you better believe a few red flags will go off in my head. This is one reason why I don't use my full name here. One google search with me making a stupid comment (which happens often) may have some serious results.
- Rodfather
Rodfather - What is wrong with a stupid comment? Are you suggesting you would NEVER make one at work? I'm sure an employer would be very interested NOT in the comment - but how you deal with it. Are you defensive? Do you evade the issue when called on it? Do you proactively apologize? Those are what matter... not the stupid comment, we all do that.
- Brian Roy
Rochelle, I do think the day is coming when everyone will have a Web presense, and part of that will be a type of resume that details your employable specs: degree, skills, work history, etc. That's still a resume, even if it's not a paper one submitted with a cover letter. There will probably always be fields where it's not important, but not many.
- Bob M. Montgomery
Brian, I think we're talking in circles, though. In my example, I specified 'up front' and that's the key. There has to be a basic threshold of qualifications for a position, especially something technical; a simple, practical resume fits that bill, whether it's printed out or online. It's not making a case, it should be a simple, factual list to help me determine if you can do what I need done, technically. After that, then I want to know about your LOLCats obsession :)
- Bob M. Montgomery
BTW, the only reason the fireman thing comes to mind is because my cousin is the local fire chief :)
- Bob M. Montgomery
The problem is that not many companies are looking at LinkedIn, or similar sites, to find employees. These sites work fine for self-employed or high tech individuals. However, like Ninth said, many other areas still use a resume and don't care much about your online presence.
- Shevonne
the resume is dead, i get my jobs via friends and my good looks these days. cheers
- sean percival
Oohhhh Sean, lucky you. =)
- Shevonne
RE: Only tech companies use LinkedIn - check this out: http://www.linkedin.com/company... Construction has more than 25 pages of companies listed.
- Brian Roy
RE: Only a small number of companies use LinkedIn - check this out: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008... - they had 160,000 at LAUNCH in March... can't find numbers for how many now.
- Brian Roy
Brian, yes companies do use LinkedIn, but I think it will be a few years when they start using it to find employees. The only people who use LinkedIn for that are recruiters.
- Shevonne
@Akiva Moskowitz: good point about being on the clock 24/7.
- edythe
Here's a graphic that illustrates the principle I was describing. http://images.scripting.com/archive...
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Agreed, and you answered my question from your previous tweet.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
People say that Twitter looks more coloful and they're right -- when you compare the products, it is. But when you look at what the users do with them, Twitter is bland and colorless. FF is structured, varied, and colorful. The Graphics Gap.
- Dave Winer
Oh, I have something in common with Lindsay Lohan: http://mashable.com/2008... we've both been deleted by Facebook!
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Facebook is right to ban Lohan. They should maintain a level playing field. They shouldn't bend over for Hollywood celebs. http://tinyurl.com/5vbxf9
- Mike Abundo
Mike: I think Facebook shouldn't ban anyone. They should put their accounts into a jail first and explain the consequences of continued action and make it very clear how to escape from jail.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I agree that suspension and notification should precede termination. I still maintain my assertion that there should be no exemption. :)
- Mike Abundo
people still care about LL? hahaha
- Terry O'Fee
There should be a rate-limit to the Scoble-in-shower picture. This is the third time this week!
- DGentry
Denton: that photo was NOT taken in a shower. That was taken in Mike Arrington's back yard by JD Lasica during our book launch party which was, I think, the seventh Tech Crunch party back when they were still held in Mike's backyard. (title: Naked Conversations).
- Robert Scoble
A better picture: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- DGentry
Forget about Facebook, I'd like to follow up with the Naked Conversations part. ;)
- Daynah
I saw that article...sorta lame, but funny I like the "Jail" idea...much smarter approach
- Susan Beebe
facebook is the social networking site!just like the real life.everypeop can do what they want to doing.facebook shouldn't ban anyone--just like them have killed a people!
- jedorstar
Here's the best *shower* pic of Scoble ---> http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Susan Beebe
Thats four.
- DGentry
Jedorstar: What?
- Mike Abundo
@tmofee People still care about Facebook ? ;)
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
White House rejects impeachment ornament - USATODAY.com - http://www.usatoday.com/news...
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"The White House will not display a Christmas tree ornament that calls for President George W. Bush's impeachment. The ornament was made by artist Deborah Lawrence, who says she wanted to honor Rep. Jim McDermott, a Democrat and a longtime Bush foe who backs impeachment."
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
Good. What an idiot.
- Akiva
McDermott keeps finding ways to embarass me that he is my Congressman and there are no good alternatives that run against him.
- Dennis E. Hamilton
from twhirl
The high point for McDermott (and the low point in my appraisal) was when he had to be lectured by a Federal Judge and assessed a fine far more than he could have settle for with a charity donation and an apology. I didn't like the "Bagdad Jim" business, just frustrated that the clown seems to have no sense.
- Dennis E. Hamilton
from twhirl
@scobleizer mentions the number of likes he has. He has almost twice the number of likes as comments. Which is more important - a like or a comment? I noticed @LouisGray has more comments than likes - would his FriendFeed activity ratio be more productive?
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And BTW, this is not meant to rag on @scobleizer - I just thought it was interesting.
- Jesse Stay
Usually, when I comment, I "like" it as well. I think they are good for different reasons. Not everyone that "diggs" something on digg.com leaves a comment for example. Sometimes, people don't have something to say (or don't have the time to say what they think), they just want to get the word out. Thanks for the opportunity to discuss it!
- Joseph McLaughlin
I think this can depend on the person. Scoble liking things brings stuff to the attention of his followers, which is a good thing. Louis Gray has insightful and interesting things to say (not that Scoble doesn't) and uses FF a bit differently. I don't know that you can rate productivity based on the number of comments or likes. Content is important as well.
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From this observation, one might be able to conclude that Louis is about engaging more in conversation and sharing his opinion while Robert is more about finding good content and sharing it with others.
- Justin Korn
There's no one right way to use FriendFeed. I find that the conversations are more important than merely "liking" items. I do more likes than comments when I am holding babies or am on the iPhone though, so the % gap is closing.
- Louis Gray
+1 Louis - everybody has their style and purposes behind their approach to using FF. For example, my "like" usage has a threefold strategy: I LIKE something, I want to bookmark it, and also share with others. now that I have an iPhone, I can comment more.... so this is a new capability some folks will soon have on their phones...more smartphones!
- Susan Beebe
I have twice as many likes as Louis, which tells you I share twice as much as Louis while we have about the same amount of comments, which tells you that I'm just as engaging with the people I'm following as Louis is. The thing is I've always looked at my "Likes and Comments" feed at http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei... as a way to tell my readers about interesting new FriendFeeders and items. That requires "Liking" AND "Commenting."
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I agree personally - I like the way you point out interesting people and posts through your likes. You've also been on FriendFeed in shorter time than Louis, which makes you much more engaging. I wasn't really trying to make this a competition though, but rather a discussion on whether comments or likes were more important on FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
from IM
I find that commenting is not always a useful add to the conversation. If I have something pertinent to add and not a "Me to", I will add it. Other items (Duncan Riley's photos) do not really need or want comments.
- Robert Miller
R. Scoble - I hope you didn't find my comment as saying you were not engaging, because I do believe you are engaging, I was just saying how one might interpret the comment that Jesse presented.
- Justin Korn
I would say that comments are more valuable, simply because you have to think about them. You have to do work. Like is just clicking a link. it still boils down to the individual as to how useful they are to everyone else, though. Whatever math you could do would not accurately reflect a person's value to the community.
- Rahsheen the Dream
In my case, I like more frequently than I comment.
- Ontario Emperor
I comment more, and a lot of my comments are simply excerpts from the article that help round out a Like - my way of advertising the link I'm resharing.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'd rather have a comment than a like: at least with the former I'm sure that somebody has read (and understood) the post
- Jordi Soler
Scobleizer TV: Matt Mullenweg Reveals Future of Wordpress - Part 1 - http://www.fastcompany.tv/video...
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Part II will be up on Monday. Here we discuss the future of blogs and Automattic. Matt's the head of that company, which is the producer of Wordpress.
- Robert Scoble
Well done. Can't wait for Part II.
- David Bisset (sn)
Part II is now up here: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Robert Scoble
lazyweb, please summarize in text form!
- Christian Crumlish
Christian: this is one of my best interviews. Can't summarize that! :-) Basically we talked about where blogging has come from, where it is going, aka Wordpress, etc.
- Robert Scoble
Gregory: what video service can you get to? I'll repost there.
- Robert Scoble
YouTube is tough because I can only upload 10 minute videos there.
- Robert Scoble
matt gets it. that's what makes the difference. just look at his virtual office.
- Alex Williams
Matt Mullenweg Reveals Future of Wordpress - Part 1 - http://www.fastcompany.tv/video...
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he told us at the Arizona EntrepreneurshipConference last week:-)
- Francine Hardaway
from IM
This is a good one
- Robert Scoble
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