http://www.google.com/reader... I'm glad you asked this right now. I just realized that several people are following me and I didn't even know it. I hope it hasn't been this way for long!
- Michael Fidler
Just noticed that Reader now allows grouping of people you follow! Wondering: is Reader going to become a competitor (instead of complement) to FriendFeed?
- Chris Rogers
@rogersdc / Chris, Google Reader is obviously been trying to become more social, but I'd really like to see FF come out with a bookmarklet that makes sub'ing RSS feeds to FF easier/faster. Right now it's a manual process involving either a new Group/Room or Imaginary Friend. Should be 2 clicks tops.. Also see: http://friendfeed.com/alexsch...
- Alex Schleber
Here is mine : http://www.google.fr/reader.... I share (mainly on French sites and blogs) about libraries, literature and arts, human and social sciences, photography :-)
- Nadine Pestourie
LOL here we go again :o) http://www.google.com/reader... I share a lot of blogs and funny stuff that I read, it's neat how I can share and it gets posted all over by friendfeed.
- David Gross
http://www.google.com/reader... - I share items about productivity, gaming, movies, and misc. stuff from the Google "cool" via Recommendations feed. Thanks Kol for starting this thread because I've been trying to cut down on the number of feeds I subscribe to and instead just follow interesting people.
- Dusty Edenfield
Svartling: good point about adding people to groups. I noticed I couldn't comment on items that were shared by some users.
- Dusty Edenfield
I've (we) written a lot of more good tips on how to use Google Reader in Google Reader comments. It's too bad we don't have permalinks in Greader so we can share our notes and comments. Otherwise I could have posted a link here. Here are some on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/svartli...
- Svartling
The conversation is really blowing up (in a good way) on Reader. The most important reminder currently is to set up groups and allow commenting. That is NOT on by default!
- Vince DeGeorge
Thank you all. I think I have subscribed you all now (except those feed in languages I don't understand) Here is mine again: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Svartling
I've started to follow a few of the people here but there's quite a few, so will take me a while :) - My currently fairly bare feed is: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Roy Herrod
There are a few entries here you might like to read to help you. This one: http://ff.im/6CkQj explains about adding people to groups to allow them to comment and why some don't stay in groups. In this one: http://ff.im/6F9pQ I suggest a way to track a large number of shared items using PostRank. This: http://ff.im/6Ci0P and this: http://ff.im/6AM35 has a few tips on using GReader as a lifestreaming service. And this: http://ff.im/6EMT1 gives a few examples of GReader bundles.
- Kol Tregaskes
Those of you above whom I already follow on FF/Twitter/etc., I've subscribed to your feeds. As for the rest of you: if you follow me on GReader, I'll follow you back.
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm sharing some pages now, including a few of my past blog entries.
- Dennis Jernberg
Because I have issues with data duplication, I have merged this list with the google reader shares room feeds. You can view the Google spreadsheet at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...
- Rob Diana
There are a bunch of shared feeds that I could not resolve the Google username for because they did not have a named profile set up.
- Rob Diana
tristanhambling, your link didn't work. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
It would be really handy to have all these shared feeds as an opml file. Has anyone added everyone? Care to export an opml of the shared feeds?
- Paul Jacobson
I'm http://www.google.com/reader... Not really comfortable with the custom URL though since it can only be your gmail username. Makes it really easy for spamspiders I think.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Tobias, possibly but not had any problems myself though Gmail has the best spam filters around so I probably not noticed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... mostly webdev, photography news, music, world news which i get interested. plus half of them may be article in Japanese. sorry. :-p
- browneyes
http://www.google.com/reader... - OK I'm in. Late as always. Will post my thoughts, feedback and pleading requests for help over in Google Reader so please follow me over there. Eat your own dog food and all that.
- Andy C
MF/Kol = I live in Kingston on Thames. It's OK apart from the traffic (continually gridlocked) and the shops (girls just lurve them). Handy for getting into London both airports and out to the Thames Valley for work type things. Richmond Park and the river in walking distance is great too.
- Andy C
Andy, Richmond Park and the others around there are the appeal really. Good place to go photographing and cycling while being very close to London I think.
- Kol Tregaskes
Teddington (across the river from Kingston Upon Thames, is where I think I'd like to live. Just 'cos it's cheaper than everywhere else around it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol many years ago, we made the mistake of asking an estate agent in Surbiton whether it was any cheaper than Kingston. She replied 'No - of course not. We are on the fast line to Waterloo' and looked at us as if we were dog excrement.
- Andy C
I've checked rental prices in the area several times over the last 2 years and Teddington is definitely cheaper. I'm not buying, no way I can afford that. ;-) All a pip-dream anyway, need a steady job and I've not had that for a while. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
anyone use google reader on windows mobile professional? I cant seem to get it to work and when I try to go to the mobile site it takes me to the regular site.
- David Gross
Nope, sorry can't help you there, David.
- Kol Tregaskes
"Brian, excellent post, except for the Costolo quote that you left un-critiqued: “We want to do something that’s organic and in the flow of the way people already use Twitter.” Hardly what happened with the New RT design... it's nice to pay lip service, it's another thing entirely to live up to this claim."
- Alex Schleber
Guys, I'm having a big clear out on Twitter but want to make sure I'm following all my Friendfeed friends - could you please link to your twitter account in the comments below?
http://twitter.com/rahsheen - pretty positive there was a tool capable of doing this, but not sure if it still exists and can't remember what it was called...I think someone here developed it.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
What you can do is run this and then click all the Twitter links in the results. It's everyone you are following. It gives a big page of links to all their blogs and services: http://hiphs.com/ff/ffriends
- April Russo (app103)
April, I actually ran it, but it's still hanging, not as quickly as before but it only pulled 2800 of the users from Zee's public subscriptions. I really need to put more work into all of my Friendfeed backup tools. Note: I'm a retard, I'll dm you a list of your users FFriends and their subsequent Twitter accounts.
- Jimminy Fuller
re:Yahoo Will Kill MyBlogLog Next Month - the writing was on the wall..MBL was in a leadership position several years ago, and Yahoo did exactly nothing with it. Or anything else in social media other than flickr. What a waste.
- Alex Schleber
I have seen MyBlogLog in very many websites, what a pity!
- TrafficBug
Rarely seen it in websites. Must be the place I visited.
- Natsuki Seika
"Websites live or die based on how a small group of programmers at Google decide their sites should rank in Google’s main search results. As the “router” of the vast majority of traffic on the internet, Google’s secret ranking algorithm is probably is the most powerful piece of software code on the planet. Google talks a lot about openness and their commitment to open source software. What they are really doing is practicing a classic business strategy known as “commoditizing the complement“*. Google makes 99% of their revenue by selling text ads for things like plane tickets, dvd players and malpractice lawyers. Many of these ads are syndicated to non-Google properties. But the anchor that gives Google their best “inventory” is the main search engine at Google.com. And the secret sauce behind Google.com is the algorithm for ranking search results. If Google is really committed to openness, it is this algorithm that they need to open source."
- arnaldostream
from Bookmarklet
Uhhh, Google should open source Page Rank plus all the anti-manipulation measures. For one, Google doesn't even own the rights to Page Rank, Stanford University does and as such it is open for viewing the academic papers on it, however they have an exclusivity contract with Google for rights to use said method in handling the ranking structure of the web.
- Jimminy Fuller
"As @DrFernKazlow once said on Twitter: "Life is a branding problem." :) I have to agree, the storyline had best be continuous, especially for small business/solopreneurs."
- Alex Schleber
"As @DrFernKazlow once said on Twitter: "Life is a branding problem." :) I have to agree, the storyline had best be continuous, especially for small business/solopreneurs."
- Alex Schleber
Just noticed that retweets don't get published here. That's a good thing, I suppose. Although, I don't mind the retweet function nearly as much as everyone else seems to.
http://nedroid.com/ - it's the tater tot-looking creature. Him and the bird Reginald make quite a pair and go on adventures of whimsy and randomness :)
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
yeah, retweets using the internal twitter function don't get fed out of twitter via RSS. I noticed that on our website the other day ... after I purposely retweeted some stuff I wanted to show up on the site! If you retweet the old way, of course they will show up.
- Laura Norvig
That's one thing I don't like about the new retweeting method. A lot of times I RT stuff because I want it to show up in my Twitter RSS feed.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Music service I don't need: Vevotato.
- Dave Friedel
AT&T to iPhone users: DontUseSoMuchDatatato
- Dave Friedel
I'll be here all week folks. Don't forget to tip your servers.
- Dave Friedel
would Bearonica be friends with beartato?
- Fee501st
Yeah, it bugs me a wee bit because I don't want to spend ages on twitter checking to see if I missed anything exciting (I used to just see them here). Not exactly a huge issue, mind you.
- Amy
rss search with rt as search. Would that work. Or topify?
- Richard A.
from fftogo
The #NewRT functionality is a little like taking away your comments here on FriendFeed. It sucks. Even Twitter creator @jack has voiced his concerns.. it's just not very social anymore, see here: http://businessmindhacks.com/post...
- Alex Schleber
It shows up on your FB Fan page V! So is it something on FF end?
- Fee501st
I started working on a data-tree style notetaking application recently. Which similar web application (Wridea, Google Notebook, Evernote, and the like) are you guys using, and what do you love/hate most about that application?
Much less graphical. Mine has no Flash, no fancy graphics and sounds. Just lets you organize whatever you wish to organize into nodes and subs (like the tree on the left of Windows Explorer).. Most mindmapping and note-taking applications have too much detail, too many options and actions (imho). So I'm looking for simpler and easier-to-use applications. Got any?
- Necmettin
I have been using Treepad for this: see screenshot of how I am using it with. http://www.imagebam.com/image... .Also similar ones available are treedbnotes pro, rightnote, allmynotes organizer pro. But they all lack what I would like. I like the tree-style layout and the ability to create sub nodes of sub nodes at the left, but I would need text colorations and special...
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- TrafficBug
Google Tasks. I love lots of things about it. It's simplicity. How you can control it pretty much from the keyboard. Portability (I have it in Gmail and gCalendar). Things I don't like about it: I can't delete or rename my first list. It needs a few more keyboard shortcuts for full keyboard usage; like switching between lists. Exportability is not much of an option. If I pop it out, I...
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- Itachi
@TrafficBug I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'wiki of links'. And the applications you list are all desktop applications it seems. Any online options?
- Necmettin
@Mehmet Yeah, I love GTasks, too. Except it doesn't use the entire window, just a small portion of it. I don't like that, really. Do you use Google Tasks on a daily basis, or have a better option that syncs with your phone?
- Necmettin
Cool tip, thanks. But then again, I'm writing my own todo-notetaking-datatree application, and I'm hoping to have it published within the week.
- Necmettin
@Necmetting, by wiki of links I meant something like this. Link = http://imgur.com/IbezS.png Something like Treepad, but this could be a variation. I havent used online note taking apps so far because I need very fast indexing and fast retrieval and would prefer all data stored on desktop, with prohbably syncs to the cloud at a sequence and interval I determine manually.
- TrafficBug
Yeah, I use it daily. And thanks Vinayak for the link.
- Itachi
Here is a recap of feature list I would like - freeform database, full-text search, auto-completion of search results (autosuggest), prominent "Find" button provided as part of toolbar, and the whole thing could be like a spreadsheet with rows of data with only 1 column = "data" instead of a tree-data format, something like a scrolling table of entries that match the current dataset as found by the entry in the Find textbox.
- TrafficBug
Very nice, useful and applicable ideas, TrafficBug. Except, how would you enter more than one paragraph of text (say, something like a "note" about an entry)? When you say freeform database, do you mean being able to add new columns to entries (separately), or a more relaxed way of saving the data/text?
- Necmettin
I made this video of a bookmarking app I use: http://www.screentoaster.com/watch... I especially like how the Find text box is bringing up results as I type (the result dataset keeps changing as I type). As regards your questions, I would define one 'entry' to be a 'text snippet' that is allowed to occupy one row in the search results spreadsheet that appear like...
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- TrafficBug
Wow! Adding everything you described to my "considering doing" list. Thanks for such a detailed description.
- Necmettin
@necmettin I have used/tested all of the ones you mention, plus MindMeister, XMind (non-browser), Todoist, RTM, TwitDone yesterday (it actually has some interesting ideas), and even FriendFeed as a To-Do/notes app (as a private Group). None do everything I'd want them to be truly useful, GoogleNotes got close but was missing some things before Google archived the project (clipping was fast/great, as was manual clip sorting; no child nodes though).
- Alex Schleber
@necmetin BTW, have you looked into #Wordpress' P2 Theme for note threading? http://p2demo.wordpress.com/ It's only missing edit of posts/replies, which is probably turned on for the admin user, will have to do my own install to test. For clipping, just use the WP PressThis bookmarklet?!
- Alex Schleber
Checking out all the options Alex listed (and thanks, Alex, for that), yet I still do not feel like I found *the* todo/notes application. Each and every one of them has strengths, yet again each seem to lack at least one feature I would like to have (and planning to include in the application I'm working on). I have almost always been on the lookout for a perfect notes/todo application...
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- Necmettin
Please post here when your custom app is ready for a testing! IMHO, I could live without the data-tree as provided by Treepad, I guess what I would really need is the Powermarks-style text snippet database, just expanded to include right click integration from any app. (the app in the screencast video).
- TrafficBug
yes please keep us posted. I too would love to test!
- metalerik
I read through the thread again and may be I may not have been clearer about the term 'wiki of links'. What I really wanted to say (and meant) is a 'treeview of links where each tree node is able to collapse, expand, fold and unfold horizontally rather than vertically'. When unfolding horizontally, the list of links contained within that tree would appear horizontally - each item being...
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- TrafficBug
TrafficBug, I might as well include such a feature if experiments prove fruitful/usable, but it appears to be more of a visual feature than a structural/implementation one. Yet again, why not. I have bookmarked this discussion and implementing features listed / features found in mentioned apps. Beta will be rolled out soon. Just hang on a bit there ;)
- Necmettin
from IM
I am just wondering: does anyone know of an app that has the explorer folder-style note organization system, with another view mode that maps all of the nodes in a tree visually. What I am looking for is an app that has this: http://www.java2s.com/Tutoria... and this: http://www.clas.ufl.edu/jur...
- Eric
It's between the stroke one from the neuroanatomist - Jill Barad, I now remember - and the very first one I ever saw, on Seadragon out of MSFT.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from iPhone
"From what I understand, the FTC will handle things on a complaint basis, with a “3 strikes” system of 1) Warning 2) Cease & Desist letter 3) Fine. Which really doesn't make me feel that much better, since this opens up the field to all manner of harassment complaints by competitors. See what I wrote here: http://alexschleber.posterous.com/coaches...... As a coach and info products creator, I am much more concerned about the impact that comes from the overly stringent new testimonial guidelines. The disclosure stuff makes sense at first glance, but it's really a way by big business to stiff-arm the “Internet rabble”: Their not going to apply those same rules to TV commercials in terms of both “typical experience” having to be shown with near equal time/prominence in a spot, or ask show a large print disclaimer of “He/she is being paid handsomely (and in reality could care less about our product)” next to their celebrity endorser. They are rigging the playing field, and the FTC is..."
- Alex Schleber
"From what I understand, the FTC will handle things on a complaint basis, with a "3 strikes" system of 1) Warning 2) Cease & Desist letter 3) Fine. Which really doesn't make me feel that much better, since this opens up the field to all manner of harassment complaints by competitors. See what I wrote here: http://alexschleber.posterous.com/coaches...... As a coach and info products creator, I am much more concerned about the impact that comes from the overly stringent new testimonial guidelines. The disclosure stuff makes sense at first glance, but it's really a way by big business to stiff-arm the "Internet rabble": Their not going to apply those same rules to TV commercials in terms of both "typical experience" having to be shown with near equal time/prominence in a spot, or ask show a large print disclaimer of "He/she is being paid handsomely (and in reality could care less about our product)" next to their celebrity endorser. They are rigging the playing field, and the FTC is..."
- Alex Schleber
"We're adding something that many of you have asked for — the ability to control who sees each individual piece of content you create or upload. In addition, we'll also be fulfilling a request made by many of you to make the privacy settings page simpler by combining some settings. If you want to read more about this, we began discussing this plan back in July."
- arnaldostream
from Bookmarklet
An Open [and somewhat Orwellian] Letter from Facebook Founder Mark Zuckerberg..
- Alex Schleber
Google have taken most if not all of the classified advertising from the newspapers. Google has $25bn in sales. Most of the newspapers are bust. This is not new money or a new business. This is just money transfer from paper to online. Murdoch is fighting his corner. Show him some respect he's been at it since 1953. Sky Television rescued soccer in the UK. Murdoch did that. I love football. Thank you Rupert.
- Thomas Power
Fact: You can't own facts. A house burns down. 5000 reporters write 5000 articles about it, telling the story 5000 different ways. The fact that the house burned down can't be owned by any of them. But Murdoch would like to believe he can own it, exclusively, and that you are not allowed to know that house burned down unless you pay HIM for that knowledge. How does he plan on stopping...
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- April Russo (app103)
Huffington's rebuttal is good including a list of all the News Corp sites that aggregate(steal according to Murdoch)... Rotten Tomatoes, WSJ tech section, Fox News Politics Buzztracker, AllThingsD Voices...
- Ed Millard
Murdoch's negotiating in public a better deal for himself with Google and Bing. Can't blame him.
- Thomas Power
I wonder what motivates Murdoch. He certainly doesn't need to make any more money. It has to be much deeper than that. Esp. at his age, when most people would have long hung it up by now.
- Dawn
Its sport. Most hard nosed successful business people just play the game to win and to beat their competition.
- Ed Millard
hear hear Ed and not bad for 78 is he?
- Thomas Power
I think he is grooming his kids to take over so he's building a dynasty too.
- Ed Millard
His father certainly did and it worked out fantastic for them
- Itachi
Some classy responses here. There is no such thing as journalism anymore. Just look at the U.S. media.
- Spencer
Journalism does have a bright future - newspapers however do not. Have those somehow become equivalent?
- Brian Sullivan
Real journalism is still occurring it is just becoming more polarized and funded by competing interests. Fox may be the broadcast standard bearer for polarization.
- Eric Logan
"I hope Google simply did it preemptively on their end. If I were them, I’d be sooo very tired of Murdoch’s whining. “Ohh, my poor, poor media moguldom empire…”"
- Alex Schleber
.@Zee, this is complete madness. There are ARMIES of people just waiting for the chance to completely unseat these kinds of outlets. The "the Worksop Guardian, Ripley & Heanor News, the Whitby Gazette, ..." ?!?! Are they kidding?
- Alex Schleber
"...Then it becomes clear to you that these are among the most important guide posts for all entrepreneurial activity, and by extension for success in life in a more general sense: 1. Successful people don’t wait for permission They don’t wait for someone to appoint them to something important (which almost never happens anyway). They give themselves permission to go ahead, they self-appoint.
- Alex Schleber
from Bookmarklet
"Chris, these have been out for quite some time, there really is no excuse for this other than that Timberland has been in a downward spiral for years (which is a shame, because I've always been a loyal customer, there shoes and boots just happen to have always fit me perfectly). That said, I tried on a pair of these a few months ago somewhere, and they felt a little too light and unstable to really qualify as a boot. If you go that light/unstable, you might as well get a slip-on boot or similar..."
- Alex Schleber
"“The internet views censorship as damage and routs around it.” This is all an illusion by Murdoch, and Microsoft is drinking the kool-aid. If I were Google, I would preempt Murdoch and just drop all of his properties from the index preemptively. See how he likes it. There is just about no reason to read the WSJ over the financial news blogs anyway, and any news the WSJ might by accident be breaking, shows up say on CNBC in minutes later. Murdoch, you cannot hold the Internet down…there’s just too damn many of us… http://business...the-answer-very"
- Alex Schleber
"Microsoft has had discussions with News Corp over a plan that would involve the media company's being paid to "de-index" its news websites from Google, setting the scene for a search engine battle that could offer a ray of light to the newspaper industry. The impetus for the discussions came from News Corp, owner of newspapers ranging from the Wall Street Journal of the US to The Sun of the UK, said a person familiar with the situation, who warned that talks were at an early stage. However, the Financial Times has learnt that Microsoft has also approached other big online publishers to persuade them to remove their sites from Google's search engine. News Corp and Microsoft, which owns the rival Bing search engine, declined to comment. One website publisher approached by Microsoft said that the plan "puts enormous value on content if search engines are prepared to pay us to index with them". Microsoft's interest is being interpreted as a direct assault on Google because it puts...
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- sofarsoShawn
So Microsoft is willing to pay for exclusive search access to some content? Is that this what this is about?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, I think it's about two old style companies trying to do business in old style ways, while the rest of the world moves on.
- Cristo
"The impetus for the discussions came from News Corp, owner of newspapers ranging from the Wall Street Journal of the US to The Sun of the UK, said a person familiar with the situation, who warned that talks were at an early stage." -- so this is just posturing likely? I can't see Microsoft paying much for this "privilege".
- Brian Sullivan
I think it is more of a case that he said he'd delist his content if not paid, and MS said they might pay to keep it? Still weird - if I dont find something in a search engine but I still get relevant results, I won't even miss it
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
well said @iphigenie, I just said something similar, just from the content provider perspective, in a comment over here: http://www.businessinsider.com/microso... "Once you've been disappeared for a while, people will forget that you were ever there and move on to the next guy in line that was right behind you all along, chomping at the bit for a chance like this."
- Alex Schleber
Funny how most people are paying to make their content show up in google. I hope they do it and we can see what happens. Of course if it takes off then sites that search all the search engines will spring up very quickly.
- John Cooper
I do have a spiteful jealous of your new feature button though Robert. Hey did you Check out the list tag cloud prototype I emailed you?
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
I see it on mine now, and realize I have not been ReTweeted, yet.
- Rubin
yes, since nov 10 - the retweet feature was temporarily disabled last week but it's finally back!
- barbarars
Yeah, I too got a punch of erecting self-esteem when found that I was A Chosen One Among Others )) being a beta-tester for a new Twitter feature. And now seriously - good idea, and good implementation. Everything is done stylish, keeping minimalistic Twitter spirit. As for me personally, RT timilines will be my must-read Twi-parts from now on as I find there a lot of interesting and useful links or ideas I would surely miss without this feature.
- massagin
Have it but doesn't appear to function if viewing tweets within a list.
- Dana Fosburgh
Have #NewRTs back on as well, still don't like them -> http://bit.ly/wTX4b I'll have to make a mock-up of what the feature should have looked like.
- Alex Schleber
it does-but im not sure why they didnt let us make comments- thats the good stuff
- Elizabeth Beskin
Elizabeth: I disagree. If Twitter had comments it would be like Facebook or FriendFeed. It would also get very noisy very quickly and one thing I like about Twitter is that I control everything that appears in my streams. Adding comments would change that radically.
- Robert Scoble
"Microsoft has discussed paying News Corp. to remove its news Web sites from Google’s search results and list them on its Bing search engine instead, The Financial Times reported Sunday on its Web site. Microsoft also approached other major online publishers about removing their sites from Google, the report said."
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
"Agreed that there are some serious privacy/security issues around the geolocation services. Let's hope that these companies are working PROACTIVELY on solving these, and don't wait until the first bad "Foursquare Incident" forces them to. I read somewhere that you can disable your home location in their database, but presumably only after it's already been tagged (will tweet them to verify). They should strongly consider offering an opt-out for people for their home locations, whether they are Foursquare users or not. Maybe even put up an automatic opt-out for residential locations for now, unless the owner specifically opts in."
- Alex Schleber
"Great post, Louis, I am totally with you on the intelligent targeting issue, and how stupid and wasteful nearly all Web advertising has been up to this point (with the exception of Google Search ads, those work to an extent because of the different mindset inherent in the act of searching...there is a reason why Google has been raking it in with Adwords). If what I read about the proposed system on Robert's blog today is right, then Twitter may well have figured out the formula to making this work. It is ESSENTIAL to give people more of what they were already looking at when they "raised their hand". Context is everything. It would be nice if someone did it right for a change (check out what I wrote about the problem of dumb Web content monetization some months ago: http://businessmindhacks.com/post...... ). Because it might also SHAME all of the others into upping their game, where steep revenue declines alone still haven't managed to do so..."
- Alex Schleber
"Except when Twitter then kills that client by violating terms of service for accessing their API... Seriously, it's all in the execution. If it becomes clear that this is something new, that the ads are mostly useful, and that Twitter is keeping a tight lid on things so that there are minimal shenanigans, then all is well."
- Alex Schleber
"A few things: 1) Bots are already being outed more and more due to the list count. High followers (due to refollow spamming), plus high tweet count (due to autoposting from twitterfeed, etc.), but only on 10 lists = Bot. And you just block them. Been doing a lot more of that lately as they are outing themselves more than before (anything from twitterfeed is suspect, unless its a declared blog RSS feed or similar). 2) If Twitter is smart and turns on per advertiser blocking as I described further up, that solves the problem, along with just blocking the source (fake user) of too many tweets. And if a given "user" has too many ads blocked from his stream, Twitter could manually take a look & intervene. 3) One would think that Twitter could easily throttle this in their set-up, that only x tweets per hour at most will be targeted, even if more were target-worthy (there will be many that won't be in everyday short conversation)."
- Alex Schleber
"Here is a great idea: Use something that is already totally familiar to every Twitter user - blocking. This time of specific advertisers. If I hate a specific ad, I just click a block button by the ad. It's great for me, and great for Twitter not to try showing me something I have no interest/etc. in again. They get to continuously refine their click-through rates! BTW I think that blocking in general is a totally underappreciated and underdeveloped function in social media, e.g. Twitter should have long ago allowed us to see our own "block page", with a list of users we have blocked. That way, each blocking action could be ONE click, no pop-up (they have gotten better on this with the most recent UI changes), and could be reversed in case of error or later changing one's mind. Maybe it should just be called "muting" so as to not sound so drastic..."
- Alex Schleber
"The genius of this (if I understand Robert's description correctly) is that you'd never have to see an ad at all unless you'd want to. It would be your option to click on/mouse-over/surface the meta-data add-on package. By your ACTION you'd be declaring intent: Let's see what Twitter might have cooked up for me "underneath" this tweet. Then if it's intelligently targeted to the content of the tweet (and I agree that this is still a big if), you may well be delighted. And even if it's not for you, it won't feel like someone was completely wasting your time."
- Alex Schleber
"Ari, no, you still wouldn't have a material connection: If you use Twitter's new retweet function, all credit remains with the original tweet author anyway (and he/she didn't place the ad either). But even if you use the old way (which I prefer BTW), then Twitter can simply assign a new or similar, or even the same ad to the "add-on payload", but you still won't have a material connection because you're not endorsing. Deck shuffled anew so to speak. All of this of course predicated on the premise that Twitter is going to do a revenue share in the first place. They could clearly just say that that is the cost of using the service."
- Alex Schleber