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Alex Scrivener
You could look at those 4-quadrant political quizzes as the weighted importance you place on Equality (left) Justice (right) Liberty (bottom) and Order (top). Thoughts? #politics
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Guess I'm not sure Justice is in opposition to Equality - mikepk
Where someone on the left would ask "Does everyone have enough?" someone on the right would ask "Does everyone have what is theirs?" This is an off the cuff question, I am open to different interpretations. - Alex Scrivener
I would maybe put personal liberty or individualism on the right instead of justice. - mikepk
but Liberty is at the bottom. Most conservatives aren't really that into liberty. - Alex Scrivener
Yeah, not sure... I just don't think Justice is the right concept. Or maybe it's individual justice vs. social justice. - mikepk
"People getting what they deserve" rather than "treating everyone the same" - Alex Scrivener
"People getting what people on the right think they deserve." - Eivind
I don't think you are following the question. Why do people position themselves on the right? People always think their position is best, which is why they hold it. They are pursuing some sort of virtue. Libertarians are clearly pursuing liberty. Authoritarians never say they want to be tyrants, they talk about Order and making sure you do what is best and are prevented from doing what is non-best. The left emphasizes Equality, working to ensure no one has more rights, privileges, or stuff than anyone else. I think the left believes people should be judged based on what they are (i.e. the same, except in more Darwinian interpretation ) versus the right thinking people should be judged on what they have done. - Alex Scrivener
My point was just that I don't think anybody is against people getting what they deserve. - Eivind
The original Nolan chart actually maps the left wing to the upper left, the right wing to the lower right, which I think is highly questionable. The original mapping of the x-axis has to do with economic freedom. The rightward part of the x-axis would then map to a completely unregulated laissez-faire market, and the leftward part of the x-axis would map to a completely planned economy. I don't see how this necessarily maps to equality and justice. - Victor Ganata
Although I suppose one could map the x-axis to making sure everyone gets what they deserve, and the rightward points would correspond to erring on the side so that even people who aren't guilty get punished, whereas the leftward points would correspond to erring on the side so the people who aren't deserving get rewarded. You could say the right favors alpha error while the left favors beta error. - Victor Ganata