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I am sorry I have met four entrepreneurs on France so far that aren't on Twitter. That is really lame.
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its pretty common outside of USA, most of my business associates in China or Japan are like eeeehhhh?
- Robert Higgins
Yep, sorry not to be american ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
More seriously, you have to take in account the "2 years late" France problem ... I'm afraid there is nothing to do to fix that ... ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Perhaps, Stanislaus, but is Scoble on MiniTel? ;)
- John Craft
it spells market opportunity to me. Do you realize that late comers to a market/game will have the advantage of starting at the current level, and not from scratch?
- Juan Pablo
They should be on LinkedIn though
- Maciej Burczyk
I assume you meant 'in' France :) In India too most professionals are on LinkedIn rather than Twitter.
- Brijesh
they r on at least one social network ie: facebook or linkedin or their popular local network for sure. thats from all my friend's couch-surfers from all over
- polou/indigo_bow
As to being surprised, one word: Miopia. You, me, and most people :)
- Micah Wittman
I think this is a good thing. Twitter sucks.
- Alex Scoble
Preach, Alex
- Josh Haley
Yep, if I was an entrepreneur, I would shun Twitter as being completely unusable for telling a story and having a conversation with ANYONE. It's unusable for anyone but marketers and an entrepreneur needs to be more than that, IMO.
- Alex Scoble
Alex: SOCK it to 'EM - POW! ~ Why would any entrepreneur (outside&inside Tech) waste their time with twitter - there's no meaningful gain for time spent
- sofarsoShawn
Alex: that's lame too. Ever hear of posting a URL to a blog inside Twitter? That lets you do whatever you want with Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
sorry...is twitter back up again...?
- Simon Hicks
It depends who you are trying to reach - Twitter isn't *that* big an audience
- Jesse Stay
Now, if they're not on Facebook that's a different story
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: every single tech executive, influential, blogger, and VC I've asked today is on Twitter. That's who I want to reach. I don't care about your mom. As I look around the room EVERYONE is on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Everyone in your audience, yes
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, everyone in the world :)
- Peter Smulovics
Peter, um, no :-)
- Jesse Stay
I'm friends with a ton of VCs on Facebook, and I learn a ton more about them there than I do on Twitter
- Jesse Stay
I should show you my executives list on Facebook - I get to talk to them on a personal level there
- Jesse Stay
I just friended Louis Gray's Mom and get to learn about his Twins on Facebook, all while building a stronger relationship with him
- Jesse Stay
I can pitch things to Maryam and get her to convince you to do stuff ;-)
- Jesse Stay
And that only touches the surface of what you can do with my Mom on Facebook ;-) (although she doesn't friend anyone but her direct relatives)
- Jesse Stay
I think that's an unfair statement Robert. Indirectly you are implying that Twitter is the definitive method of reaching out which is incorrect. Also, I think Twitter is a major distraction and personally I think any Entrepreneur worth his salt would not be wasting time on twitter but working on his idea.
- Parth Awasthi
The numbers tell all: http://siteanalytics.compete.com/faceboo...
- Jesse Stay
Parth - I'm an entrepreneur worth my salt (IMHO). I'm on twitter. It's a place to make connections much faster than you can in a room of other business folks, or secluded away working on your idea. Take your best efforts at networking and multiply them by an order of magnitude or two and that's the impact twitter can have on your reach and connections.
- Brian Schwartz
Jesse - your stats are completely ignoring API calls and most everyone who uses twitter uses a 3rd party tool.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, fine - compare API calls. Want me to show stats on the number of Facebook API developers vs. Twitter API developers?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse what's app just won the award for best iphone app for 2009? Tweetie.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, and that says what?
- Jesse Stay
OneForty's tracking just over 2,000 Twitter apps - they're probably the most complete directory
- Jesse Stay
Sorry, forgot friendfeed uses enter to actually post. Tweetie was one of the most popular and used apps for the iphone two years in a row. Facebook and twitter are different web applications. Farmville et al don't appear on twitter.
- Brian Schwartz
The Twitter development mailing list has almost 7,000 members
- Jesse Stay
The Facebook developer forum has just over 45,000 members
- Jesse Stay
How many of those are game developers? You don't need 45,000 developers to developer twitter clients.
- Brian Schwartz
Actually, according to their developer conference from 2008 the number of registered developers on their platform exceeds 400,000
- Jesse Stay
In 2008 Facebook also announced over 33,000 apps - that was just last year
- Jesse Stay
Twitter has plenty of game developers as well - that has nothing to do with this conversation - this is about *everyone* being on Twitter, or supposedly that being the case
- Jesse Stay
how many of them are business apps? How many do you actually use? I am active on both and think they have different business models and purposes. Robert's point is valid. If you're in web / tech you should be on twitter and that is correct statement.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, again, I think that depends on who you're trying to connect with. Most of the important people I need to connect with are on Facebook as well as Twitter, and I can be much more effective on Facebook than I can Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse yes you can do that on facebook. However, not everyone is willing to accept Facebook friend requests from strangers (which I personally don't do) and once their account hits 5000 friends, they have no choice but to transition new "friends" to a fanpage, where the interaction ca be less personal & engaging than twitter. Most people are willing to receive and respond to @ replies in twitter, even prominent people in web / tech space.
- Brian Schwartz
you gotta go where your customers are. If that is twitter - so be it. If not, don't waste your time on there.
- Simon Hicks
The people I connect with on Facebook aren't strangers. That's the thing - I build much more intimate relationships on Facebook. Not everyone follows back on Twitter either - you have the same problem there. Fan Pages aren't less personal either - each fan Page has to be fan'd by real people, and conversations occur in more than 140 characters, all with real people. They are much more intimate.
- Jesse Stay
The advantage Twitter has is it's easy to build an audience fast - it takes more work on Facebook. With Twitter, because the follow is part of the API it's a cinch to figure out ways to game the system and grow an audience really quick. I would then recommend transitioning that audience to Facebook where you can build even stronger relationships.
- Jesse Stay
But with the much harder audience building on Facebook it also brings a much more intimate experience, and much higher quality relationships.
- Jesse Stay
To you. This is a matter of opinion. I build relationships with people on twitter (similar to how you do on facebook) several of which I'm now friends with in real life.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, as do I - I have had much greater success on Facebook though, where most of my relationships also become friends. FriendFeed has similar qualities due to the size of the network here.
- Jesse Stay
But you have a twitter account, I see it on your friendfeed profile, Robert is commenting about people who don't, I agree with him, that is lame. If you are in the industry (and attending LeWeb) you should at least have an account.
- Brian Schwartz
My point though is that Robert's statement too is a matter of opinion - you don't need a Twitter account to be successful as an entrepreneur. You can be on Facebook and be just as successful, if not more successful without a Twitter account.
- Jesse Stay
Use the tool that gets the best results for you. I personally don't follow more than 1k people in twitter. I don't want to. But at least make an attempt to try the tools before you rule them out.
- Brian Schwartz
I should add that e-mail also makes a great communication mechanism, as do lunch appointments and in-person meetings, as does a blog. Twitter isn't 100% necessary. It's a tool like anything else.
- Jesse Stay
Get outside the US and you'll have strange faces if you mention Twitter (although I know many places in the US you get the same, even amongst executives and VCs)
- Jesse Stay
We are not disagreeing (other than a preference of tool) but being in web industry you should have a profile on all of these tools and understand what they do.
- Brian Schwartz
I'm not even really stating a preference - I'm just trying to show that there are many other options out there that would make Robert's statement false.
- Jesse Stay
I'm also surprised you get strange faces from anyone in the US about twitter considering it's Q rating in the media. I'm in the midwest (flyover country to most of the rest of the US) and our social media club meetings get between 60 - 100 people per month. You can't just ignore twitter.
- Brian Schwartz
I spoke to an audience of 1,000 a couple months ago and only an eighth (if even that) of the room rose their hands when I asked them who was on Twitter. Look at the numbers - Twitter is still very small, regardless of what your Social Media Club says.
- Jesse Stay
1000 of whom? Web folks? Brick and mortar businesses owners? I speak to marketing crowds and the majority of them are on twitter (if not personally, at least the brands they represent).
- Brian Schwartz
Again, Robert is at LeWeb. This should be an informed audience.
- Brian Schwartz
Brian, software developers and entrepreneurs, including several executives
- Jesse Stay
Brian, Robert is also in France, where I am willing to bet not many of those VCs or Executives use Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
The theme of this years LeWeb is "real time web" should be a big enough of a hint what that audience would be discussing... I'm off to bed though, it's 2:36 local time for me. Cheers.
- Brian Schwartz
of course, but Twitter's not necessary if you live in France, unless you want to connect with Silicon Valley VCs or Executives, which even in that case there are other means of interacting with them.
- Jesse Stay
As far as I can observe, the french community of twitter is mostly crowded by journalists, bloggers, and social media enthousiasts in general. There are also plenty of entrepreneurs, but i think that as Jesse mentionned facebook is still the first place to be.
- Stanislas Jourdan
About LinkedIn, it is popular among geeks population, but viadeo (http://www.viadeo.com) is much more mainstream (probably because it is a French company ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Tell me... what's your pager number?
- Johnny Worthington
And since we are looking down on people for not having a Twitter account, maybe you could dig deeper for us Robert: How many entrepreneurs did you meet that didn't have a iPhone/Smart Phone? How many checked their email directly and didn't have a personal assistant filter it for them? How many listed their cell phone on their business card? How many used voice communication as thier...
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- Johnny Worthington
This is for Jesse regarding developers and apps using twitter - http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009...
- Brian Schwartz
Jesse Stays outlines it pretty inarguabley, your lists are great in a false conscious, augmented reality, but with real VC's & with real business, we don't operate through a tweet deck
- sofarsoShawn
“Can a Passive Aggressive Marriage Be Healed”? - http://creativeconflicts.com/2009...
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Question: why does Facebook have 300 million users and is never down but Twitter has 45 million and is down many times a day? People at #TC50 are noticing this too. Will Facebook use this to get into the "real time public" game?
Johan Bakken, Amarnath Prabhakar, earl wallace and 41 other people liked this
I don't think it the number of people, I think is the number of hits/per time. Then again, it might be the IT people. Unless you are hitting Facebook every minute, you may not notice any downtime.
- W. Kirk Crawford
Something is wrong with Twitter's structure. They need better engineers!
- Eugene Teng
Kirk: I totally disagree. Twitter has always been going down, even in the good old days when no one used it.
- Robert Scoble
also, how many apps/web services are connecting to and slurping data from twitter compared to facebook?
- alphaxion
Facebook may never be "down" per se but it is *frequently* completely unusable. I don't think anyone should be looking to FB as the paragon of reliability.
- Kevin Pedraja
alphaxion: that is a big deal, yes, but I can tell you the usage on Facebook is many times higher than for Twitter. Length on site numbers are higher too. Most Twitter users don't even use Twitter and that's provable.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: I'm using both a LOT and I can tell you that it's a rare day I can't get to Facebook but that happens almost every day on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I have seen facebook down. Not near as much as Twitter.
- Dan Krivolavek
I suspect a lot of it has to do with back end architecture.
- Eoghann Irving
which means they might not have invested as much into the standard web interface servers. How often does access between the off site services and twitter go down?
- alphaxion
I think Facebook was smart and managed it's growth. They're architecture was able to adapt as they grew. I think Twitter would be smart to stop trying to patch the system and build a whole new Twitter 2.0.
- ChiliMac
When Facebook was young and only open to college students, it definitely went down. It's just that no one but college students (who didn't care) noticed. Twitter doesn't have that going for it.
- Jordan Hofker
money
- Richard Hill
Twitter is broken. If they don't build a 2.0 version, sooner or later something better will replace them.
- Eugene Teng
Twitter is dead to me.
- Dan Krivolavek
Jordan, Twitter is not "young" anymore. That excuse flew the coop a while ago. Their infrastructure is broken, plain and simple.
- Chieze Okoye
Richard has a big part of it. Facebook has bought an amazing amount of hardware resources. But they've also hired a lot of quality people and done a lot of quality work to make use of those resources. It all works together.
- Todd Hoff
FB may not be 'down' much, but it's been moving like molasses for the last year for me, lite isn't much better. I don't know much about the api traffic for either, but I'd bet twitter has more from that side, just a guess though.
- John
I do not know about you Robert, but sometimes Facebook is being a 'biotch' to me and times out at various times of day and nite. Twitter, I believe is going through some huge growing pains. I hope they get bigger pants soon.
- Nile Flores
Robert, maybe you get access to the VIP Facebook, but I find that several times a month it will do things like log me out every 2 minutes, won't let me access apps, etc. Sure you can log in and maybe see your feed, but that's about it.
- Kevin Pedraja
actually, oddly enough, my GF's profile on facebook is currently telling everyone "sorry this profile is unavailable right now". Looks like they still have issues ;)
- alphaxion
I am curious what Twitter does with their time and money.
- Kreg Steppe
This might be the result of the launching of the site time... Facebook earlier than Twitter!!
- Arijit Das
'cause Twitter only picked up engineers that knew how to write scalable applications with their Summize acquisition - and they've been playing catch-up ever since.
- Mike Koss
...because only a tiny fraction of FB's "users" actually use it frequently enough to crash it? just a guess...
- .LAG liked that
People have already settled for Facebook's near real-time activity stream. Twitter will always have a place as a comm channel but the majority of those 300 million FB users are fine with checking in once or twice a day to see what their friends are up to. I would like to see stats on how many stale Twitter accounts there are vs. Facebook.
- Dave Evans
It got to do with the frequency of access. People who tweet and are active in tweeting do it all the time. It is not the same with Facebook.
- Gokul
Are those respective numbers for 'active within last 30 days'. Registrations are meaningless. That's why LinkedIn is always up. Everyone has an account but no-one actually uses it.
- Andy C
how many of these 300 million are actually active ?
- Peter Dawson
Don't know about FB but 6 million folk are active daily on Twitter. Source: http://www.mediadeluge.com/post...
- Andy C
Facebook is often unusable at certain times of the day. Typically just after everyone gets into the office. It is certainly not a paragon of reliability from the users perspective. And 300 million people don't all access it at once. If they did............no carrier
- Gilbert Harding
twitter search has value. fb search? NONE.
- Phil Calvin
Good point Phil.
- Gilbert Harding
Maybe that IS why facebook should keep out of realtime stuff. It is less hassle to their systems. But I find facebook chat slow and unresponsive :) Neither is perfect... that is good. It means there is much more work to do :)
- DC Crowley
I have also found that the real time chat on Facebook is slow. I think they would have similar problems if there were as many developers creating ways to update on facebook. Cluster f#(K -cs ostini
- Christopher Scott Ostini
Peter: Facebook says that the 300 million number are people who've logged in over the past month. Most of whom are also active daily. I live with a Facebook addict. She's on it multiple times a day and so are all of her friends.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook has smarter engineers at the top that listen to the even smarter engineers at the bottom.
- Jesse Stay
.LAG, your reason doesn't fly - over half of those 300 million users log in at least once a day, and that doesn't even include the near 1 million apps that are also hitting Facebook on a regular basis.
- Jesse Stay
BTW, I don't see Twitter openly sharing that type of traffic information - kinda makes me wonder about Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
And Phil, have you tried Facebook search recently? It is becoming more and more valuable every day.
- Jesse Stay
*never* down? http://friendfeed.com/jeffdou...
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
It may also be a matter of function with scale. Facebook has many functions all of which are more than likely different scalable solutions: photo sharing, chat, etc. Twitter has a much smaller set. When taking 300M users in FB how does that break down to function vs. Twitter. It may be that the concentration around function is higher in Twitter's case than FaceBook. So if FB has say 40...
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- Altan Khendup
Robert, I understand the 'addict' state :)- while on the topic, I thought, I'll share this link to the community http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archive...
- Peter Dawson
After this discussion, I have noticed some issues with Facebook. Slow updates. Uploading hiccups. General functionality breaks at times. Of course, I still have access to it.
- Paul Puri
I think that's the biggest difference. It's rare for Facebook to be "down". Individual components yes, but not the entire site. With Twitter it tends to be all or nothing.
- Eoghann Irving
Yeah, Facebook's architecture is much more modularized. If one thing goes down it doesn't take down everything else. They also have many, many more servers managing it all and a much more mature Memcached backend. That, and they have a much smarter engineering staff managing it all. There are definitely slow spots, but they always correct after a short time, and you never see the entire site down. It's probably the reason Facebook is now profitable and Twitter isn't.
- Jesse Stay
I'm also willing to bet Facebook is doing Unit Testing on their launches, where I'm pretty sure Twitter isn't (based on the things that break after launches)
- Jesse Stay
Bring Back the Small Google Search Box - http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009...
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- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Am I the only one who likes the new size? Maybe I'm getting old...it's like suddenly preferring large print books ;-)
- Lisa
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"Getting Things Done" Another example of how Gmail can be so much more than just your e-mail client
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
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12 new items from Google Reader just got pulled into my FriendFeed account at http://friendfeed.com/scoblei.... Fresh meat! Google Reader is seeing a LOT of new users lately.
sean andersen, Louis Gray, Dave Martin and 35 other people liked this
It's all part of their plan for total world domination :)
- Jim Connolly
Jim, LOL.
- Jigar Mehta
i'm going to go out on a limb and bring up this old chest nut...the users have always been there, growing steadily by the day :)
- Zee.
The Like feature in Reader, though a small gesture, opens a big window to more of a social RSS experience. Tiny software changes can have huge cultural effects.
- phil baumann
Yep... and it appears to be working!
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Zee: not really true. I've been on Google Reader for years and was #1 user for quite a while. In the past week a TON of new people have joined.
- Robert Scoble
Why?
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Susan: because of the new sharing and liking and searching features. New features get PR. PR gets people to try something new.
- Robert Scoble
Good point! The username feature got me back in gReader this week
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Wonder how much of it is just 'us' - Geeks feeding the same information around different sites / apps?
- Jim Connolly
Jim: I don't recognize most of the names of people who've followed me in the past week. So, it might be geeks, but based on the content they are picking I'd say it's going a bit more mainstream than that. Certainly they aren't the same usual folks who I usually see. For instance, on Dopplr about half of the people who follow me there are people I've actually met face to face. In Google Reader, this week's new bunch is closer to 1%.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: That would be VERY interesting!
- Jim Connolly
Many geeks, but I think there's plenty of other kinds of peeps. Some in mine don't appear to be geeks.
- phil baumann
Q: If I Like your Like, do you see that Like back in your feed? <<
- phil baumann
Phil: What do geeks look like? :-) (Visions in my mind of thye cast from Big Bang Theory)
- Jim Connolly
All geeks are hot :)
- phil baumann
Not too sure about that!
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Since we're on the topic, do we wanna share each other feeds here? http://www.google.com/reader...
- phil baumann
phil: sure, mine is http://www.google.com/reader...
- Robert Scoble
Just started using it - love it!
- BEX
I wonder if Google's giving us a glimpse of where Wave is going. Adding messaging into reader could kick it even farther into the social space. But then that would be sorta FFish I guess.
- phil baumann
The "like" move was really smart. Based on one week of stats, a lot more people are likely to like a feature (compare to shared and shared with notes). Regarding search + follow, it is a great step forward compared to the 2 way handshake which was in place. Future will tell if people want to create yet another graph or use friendfeed + twitter. If I had to guess, I would say that friendfeed is the best solution.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
phil: except FriendFeed is 1000x faster than Google Reader. The engineering team there really doesn't understand how to do fast stuff like the FriendFeed team does.
- Robert Scoble
robert - the FF team is amazing. period.
- phil baumann
Wow, Leo Laporte is fuming about the human rights problems he saw in China. More over at live.twit.tv
- Mark
"China is a totalitarian state and like all totalitarian states they need to control the flow of information" - Leo Laporte
- Mark
Mark: and this is new? I saw the same thing 10 years ago when I visited China.
- Robert Scoble
Rebecca McKinnon is doing the best job of covering China. She's at http://friendfeed.com/rebecca... (worked as a journalist there for many years and cofounded Global Voices Online).
- Robert Scoble
Robert: The ff team is indeed amazing. But the Google Reader team is also very good: GR has a clean internal structure, awesome APIs and keeps shipping which for a 2-3 year old product is a tribute to the quality of the engineering. The reason why I think friendfeed will win is not engineering or realtime. It is because as a user I do not want to have a sharing tool per application....
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
yeah I guess
- Mark
China blocked Friendfeed he says too :(
- Mark
Edwin: the Google Reader team might be good if you are an average user. But on my account it is ssssllllooooowwwww. FriendFeed, however, with 10x as many people interacting with me is super fast. But I agree with your overall thesis.
- Robert Scoble
He says the people of china dont seem to care that they live in a totalitarian state with limited freedom and censorship etc
- Mark
The slow factor is due to the fact that it tracks "mark as read" which changes the nature of the back end beast. Which as you point out can add a 1-2s per query if you have 500+ feeds.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin: most of the slowness I'm seeing is in adding new friends to Google Reader. Horridly slow.
- Robert Scoble
Good point. This is because even if it allows asymmetric follow, the Google Reader platform was not designed for more than 500-1000 following (sources and friends included). This is one more reason why friendfeed is a better sharing and conversation platform
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I am back using Chrome and Reader after a stint with Firefox and Feedly. Part of the reason for coming back was the new sharing capabilities. I am having some problems getting my follows to actually stick, but I think that the follow feature will allow me to subscribe to less feeds and more people and make better use of my time.
- Sean Brady
Leo Laporte: "my colleagues in the tech world are more concerned with protecting their sources and NDA's then getting the truth out"
- Mark
Edwin: this is a common problem at Google. My Google Latitude account crashes with 350 friends because they didn't plan on anyone having more than 100 friends. Lame. Until they fix this attitude they won't be seen as best of breed in social networking.
- Robert Scoble
Sean: the 2.0a.012 feedly patch we pushed out last night includes support for like, new profile and the new sharing capabilities.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Mark: I wish Leo would start up a chat for this stuff here on FriendFeed. I hate IRC.
- Robert Scoble
I am not hearing him on the mic are you? And I agree.
- Robert Burgin
re: scoble, edwin ; i'm sure google [earth] has their own beacon logfiles for this, therefore it's not really 'lame' from *their* side , j/k ; in other words, they didn't care about the front end customers, just about themselves and *their* customers, which should be real estate, bioFarma and privatized defense contractors ; http://friendfeed.com/search...
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Robert: agreed. I do not think that Google can come back to in the social networking game unless they do a major acquisition. But they have a great play in the identity, profile, single sign-on field.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin: and their business listings are great, overall. They could use those to get back into the game.
- Robert Scoble
right now i think twitter might buy twitpic pretty soon. Google will buy both twitter and friendfeed by next year , since both are run by former employees anyway ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
I think that the facebook vs. twitter vs. myspace vs. friendfeed battle is going to be interesting to watch. Friendfeed is definitely behind but they have such a better technology. They just need to find a couple beach heads and a few more Scoble's for something interesting to happen.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I thought MySpace was dead toast fish.
- Bill Sodeman
Edwin: FriendFeed needs to do a few things to get to the next level: 1. Give us the ability to brand ourselves. Themes are cool, but we need them on rooms and on our own accounts. 2. We need better tools on search to get rid of duplicates. I'm getting a lot of duplicates from rooms, for instance, and there's no way to get rid of them even though they are quite consistent. 3. We need...
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- Robert Scoble
Robert: I know. What friendfeed really needs is to bootstrap an twitter like eco-system of apps: a lot of the issues you are highlighting are real and could be easily addressed by different clients offering different experiences. We have been seriously thinking about being one of those client applications. I am wondering what is the ingredient to make the ecosystem a reality. Any thoughts on that?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
the satellite electronic defense league around EADS, Thames UK, SES Dutch Skies and others don't allow Microsoft/Facebook any longer to climb higher in the power league, coz he did his stuff in the 90s with Iridium. It's more than embarrassing , that DEMS still don't know that he was in league with the Bin Ladin Group and so was the current U.S. Intelligence Head in charge , Dennis Blair [DNI ; also in charge of CIA and FBI since 2004] http://www.muckety.com/Dennis-...
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Thanks for the good conversation. Back to work now!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin: FriendFeed also needs a mobile strategy beyond hoping the world gets iPhones. Start bootstrapping developers there. I wish Friendfeed had a search service that let me search all of Facebook and all of Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I gather Friendfeed works good on the iphone? I really need help Robert, I mean, seriously, I cannot decide which smart phone to get. I don't want to buy an apple just to be cool if its not the best. Wikipedia has a huge list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Mark
But developers seem to move toward platforms that have a few things: 1. Users. 2. A decent chance of monetizing. 3. That do something unique. 4. That are open and/or resharable 5. Simple and consistent. If FriendFeed can do those things with an API it would be most impressive.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Mark: I love my iPhone but you have to come to your own decision there.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
waz this new Verizon wifi IPhone-Compaq Notebook about? big PR campaign on weekend ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
I learned from this thread that some Google products actually have scalability problems. Amazing. Their experience with scaling stuff doesn't perpetuate through the whole company it seems. I mean, I think the right attitude for Google would be to design for a million feeds and a million friends.
- Meryn Stol
Mark: that list is comprehensive, but some of the phones on there are old
- Kashif Khan
google *has* billion of feeds. After all, G Earth/Lockheed/InQTel/FCS executed main parts of 9/11, even if conspiracy smashers deny all this....
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
...and of course Google is also in bed with Transnational Fascists around Obama: http://friendfeed.com/search... ; http://ff.im/3RyHf
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
ewing2001: are you an automated spam bot?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
nope i'm around since 1993 and can type and research fast ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
i'm also a comedian coz politics suk ; http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
robert: good list. I think that it would also help them if they made "developers" a priority and were being vocal about it (one thing twitter did/does well). Enjoy the rest of the week end!!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Ewing: you are very close to getting blocked for taking my threads off topic.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
i was made invisible by ff during the davos economy forum, therefore i'm sure Edwin is one of the ignorants, which define, what "spam" is as well.goodbye and over and best to Scoble ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
what an odd person
- Mark
To Robert's points re:branding & filtering issues on FriendFeed, I would add the need for a "Subscribe feed to FF" bookmarklet as described here: http://friendfeed.com/alexsch...
- Alex Schleber
I wish they would rename the "like" features on FF and elsewhere, can't think of an appropriate word.
- Mark
Robert, just so you know, I was following your shared Items as a standard feed for months. When Reader made their changes, I showed up on your lists. My behavior didn't change, though.
- Alex Scrivener
I just dumped Newsgator after many years of use because it just kept using up too much memory on my Blackberry. I tried out Google Reader, and found it was slightly better. I won't go back.
- Amac
Actually, I suspect that almost all of the people you think have joined have actually been using it for a while - the social stuff just makes them more visible.
- Ian Betteridge
Oh, and my GReader feed is at http://www.google.com/reader...
- Ian Betteridge
FriendFeed Debuts Real-Time Search Spanning 50+ Social Sites - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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ego search is fun again
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
you lost your ego? :o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
Real-time search is a great feature.. Yeah!
- John Serra
FF FTW!
- Shane
Why I am using Peoplebrowsr for real-time search: I can quickly skim through 16 searches with three keystrokes using the right cursor key in just a few seconds. Bam. Zap. Mainlining the net with zero friction. I like it like that.
- Sean McBride
@ sean - using Peoplebrowsr for the same thing. seems a little heavy though.
- michael sean wright
A bit heavy, indeed, but I don't know of any other real-time search service that comes close to providing the ability to navigate so much info so quickly and efficiently. Monitoring dozens of feeds on what is essentially a single screen is a breeze.
- Sean McBride
So does this replace Google Reader?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Sean: now some of the features that were available only through clients such as peoplebrowser can be had natively, making them more accessible to many users :)
- Mike Chelen
That is really the right headline for this FF feature: the fact that it's real-time for all these different sites. FF continues to be a powerful tool, well defined and eminently useful and usable.
- Andy Bakun
the real-time is interesting, but as you stated, since it's limited to only the FriendFeed base, it doesn't seem as powerful as Twitter search. Couldn't they expand to all FriendFeed, all public Facebook, etc? Truly searching real-time from all status across platforms would be scary good.
- Stuart Miniman
If you could only afford one at the moment, which would you choose? UAW or AMA?
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I'm using UAW looking forward to see how many answer with AMA
- Snurtl
Unique Article Wizard hands down. I use both. UAW has generated nearly twice as many links as Article Marketing Automation over the 2 months that I have been using them.
- Ritesh Lal
may i have a translation of the acronyms ? :)
- gareth【ツ】
Oh? Umm.. well in terms of number of links I suppose that UAW does the job, but I heard that links from AMA are more powerful because they're sent to blogs instead of to directories?
- Art Y.
Translation is Unique Article Wizard and Article Marketing Automation
- Art Y.
thanks Art!
- gareth【ツ】
I use AMA I really like it how many times my articles get published. Now still waiting for the links to get recognized by Google as the Blogs are a bit weak.
- Mitja MG
I am using AMA and I am very happy with it both for publishing stuff which you pay for and receiving free articles to populate blogs which is free. Over 4000 backlinks to my sites currently through this
- Graham Hunt
just a quick note, to those who want to setup a mailing list on their websites but dont want to pay for aweber, try mailpress a free plugin, I absolutely love it!
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This looks to be very good, does it collect and collate email addresses & subscription requests as well?
- Steve
Please make sure that you check with hosting account the number of mails you can send per day..they got me with that limitation..
- Juan Pablo
yes it does collect it all plus you can send mails out with it directly from wordpress
- Catherine
Thanks for sharing this - sounds useful for clients and people in jobs working from home who just want to test out a system prior to committing to Aweber or an other.
- nudgeme
Be sure and add the xmarks add on for firefox. I recently had a crash and easily restored all my bookmarks and log ins. It is a can't do without add on. P.S. You can actually even access your bookmarks from a remote computer from xmarks.com. (Formally known as Foxmarks)
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Thanks-is that like what Flock used to do ?
- Inspired Writing Research
Been using it since it was Foxmarks. Awesome addon. Allows me to do some productive work when away of my main station ;)
- Jorge Blanco
I WHOLE HEARTED-LY second this suggestion. I lost ALL my bookmarks last year when I had transported them to Flock and it subsequently crashed...taking all my bookmarks with it. It took me over 3 1/2 weeks of back and forth emails with the Flock support team to recover a PORTION of my previous bookmarks. xmarks is a must have if you want to completely avoid the nightmare I experienced...great recommendation Brian!
- Roque
Can you explain what the xmarks are as Firefox has crashed twice? Thanks
- linda saunders
Xmarks is a Firefox addon (works in Flock too) that can sync your passwords and bookmarks between multiple computers as it saves them on a secure server. So if one of your systems crashes and you lose all your data Xmarks still has a copy of it on the web.
- Michael Netsch
Ron"micronet"Harwood to Ron"micronet"Harwood's feed, Thirty Day Challenge, Thirty Day Challenge Plus
Cutts Explains How Blogs Can Rank Higher In Google | WebProNews - http://www.webpronews.com/topnews...
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"If you want your blog to better in Google’s search results, Matt Cutts recommends WordPress. According to a presentation Google’s Webspam captain gave at WordCamp San Francisco, Word Press takes care of about 80-90 percent of SEO mechanics." This post has some more great tips for ranking also!
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
from Bookmarklet
I thought this bit was interesting for the 30dc: "For URL paths with keywords in them, Cutts says dashes (hyphens) are preferred over underscores to separate words, but no spaces between words is a bad idea (example.com/my-keywords)." So we should put hyphens between words - it's not clear if Cutts is including the domain name in this or not. Also interesting: "Make lists [for blog posts] Create controversy "
- Isha (Marysia)
I learn a few things from the internet marketers I buy off, & one of the things I learn is that I don't want to be like some of them.
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You hit the nail on the head, I feel mean sometimes because I subscribe to try and learn how to market my stuff not actually to buy their stuff, but this is short lived now and I use most of it as a learning curve of what I don't want to do when I eventually get to that stage.
- Groobers
Hear hear! - I think Ed's approach is unique.
- Inspired Writing Research
Indeed! :) I definitely don't want to be like any of them at all! No offense.. :) But, I really don't like the way 99.9% of them do things... When they need you to buy something off them, you get tons of emails, but when you want some advice or the answer to some questions about the free stuff they give out prior to a launch, you get ignored. They're like machines.. :P I wonder if that's a good anamoly...
- Art Y.
I agree with Art Y.
- TrafficBug
It's like anything else in life..you'll find people you like and respect and want to emulate and some you wouldn't give the time of day to. Take the best of what you see and make it your own.
- Michael Wilson
Sam Katakouzinos to Sam's feed, TDC Team Communicate, Thirty Day Challenge, Thirty Day Challenge Plus, MarketSamurai
Steal This Niche, a video blog series demonstrating keyword seo analysis using Market Samurai. Thank you Michelle Macphearson! - http://www.michellemacphearson.com/tag...
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"In the “Steal This Niche” series you’ll learn how to do niche research by watching as I do it - and at the end of the video, you’re welcome to STEAL THIS NICHE and build your site around it."
- Sam Katakouzinos
from Bookmarklet
Sun's Open Source Boss Slams Google App Engine - http://www.theserverside.com/news...
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Sun should just grow up and stop acting like a spoiled child. Java ME is a cut down version of Java. Who is to say that Google's App Engine can't be the reference implementation for a new JSR for cloud Java? If they want Java to be unified they should stop playing hardball with the compatibility kit and open up the JCP to allow more freedom for innovation like this rather than trying to hang on to control whilst pretending to be open.
- Peter Kelley
from Bookmarklet
Things are A-Changing at Twitter: the Beginnings of Twitter Advertising? - http://www.swbnetwork.com/blog...
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And try pasting in a long URL longer than 140 characters with a short message - it wont accept - anyway it is going to shorten the URL right? Wrote to their support and no response. Twitter is as arrogant as google is.
- TrafficBug
BBC allow embedded video - http://www.andydickinson.net/2009...
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"BBC allow embedded video"
- Andy Roberts
from Bookmarklet
That's v interesting Andy; but the only online BBC video source I know of is iPlayer - do you know where people are finding other BBC videos to embed?
- Isha (Marysia)
Integrating sales and opt-in pages with your blogs: Could you click on the image below, and share which of the 2 options would you prefer? How do YOU currently do it? Thanks for your thoughts gang :-)
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Option 1, simply because I'd much rather you ask me for my email address straight away, then send me something I can read through before I make a judgment on your sales offer. If you ask me to click to get a free report and THEN ask for my email address to send me the report I get suspicious. I think option 1 is more upfront and doesn't waste my time by navigating me to another page.
- Jen
I agree. I have opted out of several opportunities because one page led to another and wait, don't miss this one time offer, etc. Make it short and simple and I might believe you.
- Glenna
Thanks for your input Jenny and Glenna. Looks like great minds do think alike. Check out http://www.perrymarshall.com/ . This guru is doing exactly what you suggest. Who am I to say otherwise? :-)
- Ritesh Lal
Option 1. Although there has been some discussion around sales letters in parts. so you make a short sales letter, limited scrolling, opt in, then you get to the next page, short, hit continued, next page, it's a subtle sell, then 5th page you present the offer check out example check it out, it's called the multi page report http://www.marlonsanders.com/destiny...
- Lisa Schwartz
I'm for option 1; nr. 2 seems useless and for me personally it is an absolute trust-killer.
- zac
Option 1. I agree with zac. When I get a teaser and have to drill down, I usually go away.
- Miryam Heiliczer
Option 1 works better with me. That saves me a click and a page load. Also I prefer using AJAX for a quick optin because you already have my email address - like I have in my page for tweeting about Traffic-Bug here - it uses AJAX so the visitor stays on the page http://www.traffic-bug.net/FreeGiv...
- TrafficBug
Option 1.
- Isha (Marysia)
Sean, your experience is so valuable - thank you!
- Isha (Marysia)
Guys, wow! Thank you so much Jenny, Glenna, Lisa, zac, Miryam, Big T, Marysia and Sean. I really appreciate all your opinions and again thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to opine here. I am going with option 1 :-) Sean, I'll give the Goog optimizer a look as well. PS. I also asked Caro of 30 DC the same question. And surprise! she agrees with you lot. :-)
- Ritesh Lal
Always be Testing book: heh, some bedtime reading...
- Isha (Marysia)
Option 1 -- less clicks for the reader is always better. I would also replace the Option 1 Opt-In Text with something like "Find out how you can do it too. Sign up below to get our free report and learn the secret."
- Gail Guy
Good job with this Ritesh, you've gotten some good feedback to work with. I'd also be interested to learn more about what TrafficBug was referring to regarding AJAX.
- California Jerry
Most certainly option #1, it just seems more honest. When I have done the click-thru in option #2, my response was always, "hey! Now they want my email" I've experienced that many people think if you have their email address, you can hack into their computers. Petra
- Petra
Hello Everyone! Hope you are all having a good weekend! ~First Ever Look Behind the scenes on Traffic-Bug Software! http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Give it a positive rating and make a comment on the vid if you like it! :) Take care,
- TrafficBug
Looks really interesting. Looking forward to seeing more videos
- Lisa
Nice demo vid Mike. Looking forward to get my hands on it.
- Ritesh Lal
Really excited to see the 'real thing'!
- Jen
Great video! Looking forward to it :)
- Art Y.
Hey Mr T Bug - great vid. I have a couple of questions though (which may be because I missed something!). I understand that I can submit my main URL, but can I then submit each post I make on that blog, and also any artcles/videos I produce relating to the original site as well? And is the package unlimited as to the amount sites and subsequent postings to these sites? And do you have stats on the site letting the user know what they have posted and where it has been bookmarked/backlinked?Thanks in advance!
- san
Typical!!, I create an ebook, and you create a mega huge bookmarking revolution website!, you out-do me all the time, if I made a cup cake, you would build a bakery!!;) ha. Great job my friend this looks very impressive, you must have been a very busy young man over the last few months!. congrats, I cant wait for it to be released;))
- Elliot Webb
Elliot you crack me up! Please don't make a cup cake...Because I dont' want to get into the food industry!
- Michael Roberts
San, sure let me explain...sorry it wasn't clear. You can submit each post you make, squidoo, weebly, etc that all relate to that url..and they will be displayed in the bottom box under that url. This way it is nice and organized. The software will be "unlimited" to those who sign up for the "Pre-Release" list. This means you can add any amount of sites you wan to the software..No restrictions....
- TrafficBug
As for the stats...you will recieve a monthly report of everything that the software has done for you...and if you so choose you can receive a weekly report. There will not be daily reports because the software doesn't do anything in a day...looks to much like spam if it made that many bookmarks in a day. This feature will most likely not be available on luanch, because it is not the core of the software..but probably 15 days after launch! :)
- TrafficBug
So go sign up for the "Pre-Release" list. http://www.Traffic-Bug.com. Also, I really like the name Mr T Bug! :) Good one!
- TrafficBug
Hope that helped! :)
- TrafficBug
Ha! no problem Big T. You were pretty clear, I just wanted to double check any potential investment! It does sound like a very interesting option, what is the likelihood of google problems, and what happens to the linking/bookmarking if someone decides to leave your service? Sorry for the questions - I got stung before so figured it better to ask in advance!
- san
Traffic Bug, I thought I'd signed up to your Pre-Launch announcement list, but all I can find in my emails is an email telling me that I've subscribed to your email newsletter. Are they the same thing?
- Isha (Marysia)
Hey all this is Mike with Traffic-Bug. Big T. himself is down working on something mysterious! :) I will try to awnser the questions though...since um, I am the designer I should do an alright job. Though they always seem to convey themselves better than I. San - Google problem is no problem. First off. We have very solid, older, white hat accounts that will be used for your bookmarking.
- Michael Roberts
Second, we use rotating IP's for every single submition. This makes it look like your bookmarks came in over dozens of different computers and users. Third. We force you to have atleast 3 titles and 3 different descriptions. From there our software mix and matches so that every bookmark is slightly different. And with the final software you will be able to add up to I think 12 different titles and descriptions.
- Michael Roberts
Fourth. The bookmarks aren't just made right away. They are made slowly over the course of a few days. Also there is a random feature installed in the software..so it might make all your bookmarks in 2days 3hours and the next time it might take 3days 10minutes...it changes to look very natural.
- Michael Roberts
Fifth. You get to choose how aggressive the software is. We dont' reccommend running full aggression all the time. So you really are in control of how crazy you want to be. Sixth. There is no set number of bookmarks that are made...let's say you choose low aggression level. This wont' just make 80 bookmarks everytime..because that would look untaural. So the software goes out and makes anywhere from 75-95 bookmarks. It is different everytime.
- Michael Roberts
*pant pant* Ok I can keep going...but I think you are getting the point. This is done super natural and all white hat. To awnser your second question. Any user can quite at any time...The software will finish it's bookmarkings that are already in progress and then will email you a report of what all has been done to all your sites. Simple as that. They will not be deleted or removed...that is just way to much work for us to do that...and um seems mean. :)
- Michael Roberts
Marysia I checked your name on my list...you are on the subscriber list. :) Of course your email had to be on page 10 of the subscriber list....took me forever to find. Keep your eyes out for a super cool thing we are giving away this week..I am pretty sure everyone will want it. :)
- Michael Roberts
Also, rather than me taking up this rooms space anymore about these questions...if you have anymore questions, comments, concerns, hate mail just shoot it to trafficbug@gmail.com. I will compile questions and create a video addressing everything for you guys. Just an excuse for me to show my ugly face! :) I look forward to your questions. Thanks! Mike - http://twitter.com/TrafficBug
- Michael Roberts
Well Mikey R, (I thought I'd carry on with the random name generator I've been working on in my head...) if your software is anywhere near as good as your customer service, this will be a truely great piece of kit! Thanks for all the responses, look out for more questions (maybe) in your inbox!
- san
Thanks San =)
- Michael Roberts
I am just putting the finishing touches on the content for my ebook. Does anyone know of any good software I can use to put it together professionally? I want it to be a pdf as the final version. Thanks!
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I just had some fun experimenting with Lyx. The result, pretty nifty PDFs! Check it out at http://www.lyx.org For those who know, it is a WYMIWYG (mind the M) text editor based on LaTEX
- Jorge Blanco
thanks, do you have an example of what you made out of it?
- Catherine
just google images "latex example" to see all the typesetting attributes of LaTEX (and Lyx BTW) http://bit.ly/pQM1v
- Jorge Blanco
I forgot to add LaTEX and Lyx are for books, articles, reports, etc i.e. printed media, so they are not made to handle tons of images at a time. If you are gointo make something very graphical (like Ed's reports) you may have to look elsewhere. Also, Open Office has PDF export capabilities, you may want to look into that as well.
- Jorge Blanco
thanks, I am doing something very graphical so will look at Open Office, if anyone uses anything else please let me know and if you like it too! have also found that Open office imports worksheets from Powerpoint so I can carry on with my powerpoint one and move it across!
- Catherine
Microsoft OfficeWord 2007 with the PDF plugin works great. If you have the suite or use other Microsoft 2007 apps it makes it easy to pull them into your PDF. If you do not have MS Office Word Than I would say Open Office is the next best thing.
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
My favourite is pages - thats what I do the 30dc plus stuff
- Ed Dale
A follow up question to Catherine's question: Where do you get the artwork that allows you write the title of your e-book on a sharply designed picture of a book. It makes your product look more substantially published even though it may be a download.
- Frank Dobner
We use bog standard Illustrator
- Kim Baillie
Kim, is the product you are referring to - http://www.bogpriser.dk/work-80... ?
- Frank Dobner
Build it in (or import it into) OpenOffice - exporting to PDF is standard. I do all my ebooks in this suite. As well it will import HTML, text, and various others besides MSWord docs. And it's fr.e.e.--- OpenOffice actually is much better than MSWord for this (or anything else you use MSOffice for, for that matter). IMHO, anyway...
- Robert Worstell
I'm with Ed - if you're a mac user Pages is a fantastic layout program. Only thing I haven't figured out how to do is 'nudge' single letters to change the spacing.
- marilyn robertson
Be careful when buying advertising space... - http://www.cracked.com/article...
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as they say in all the best forums - First! and Shopped...totally
- Allison
It was an entrant in the photoshop product placement award. Should have won. If you want to see the rest of them, head over to Digg.
- gerry
You can see the rest of them by clicking on the link or the picture...
- Art Y.
Funny
- Warner Carter
Hey check out my new squid lens :) - http://www.squidoo.com/mbeduca...
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Very interesting niche. And nice Squidoo lens too :) I do strongly agree that learning should be fun and enjoyable. But not only that, it should spark a passion and fill the heart with excitement... Well, that's just me...
- Art Y.
Good Work Melissa, Liked the video too, nice touch. Get that bio up it's important to relationship building. Good job
- Kenneth Hamilton
Hi guys, i am trying to import an rss feed from you tube so into friend feed so that all the videos are for a given search for my micro niche key word are imported into the room. Anyone managed to achieve this?
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http://www.youtube.com/rssls this may help..
- Juan Pablo
Enzo, have a look to my script on http://domainreactivator.com it's using youtube API to get videos based on a list of keywords. It may be possible for you to customize the code for your need.
- Juan Pablo
Here is how I do it. Go to Youtube and do your search (you do not have to be logged in) When the result page loads you should see the RSS indicator on your browser. Now you need to have your browser RSS reader set to use Flock if using Flock browser or Preview with FireFox if using FireFox. It won't work set to Google reader(but you can change it back when done) Click the RSS icon and when the confirm RSS page loads in your browser Copy the URL in your browser address bar (Not the RSS link shown). CONT>>>>
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
CONT>>> Then paste the URL you copied as a Blog service in your FF room. That should do it .Its worked for me every time.
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Thanks guys - this is fantastic and has saved me hours, or maybe even days!!! :-)
- Enzo Vullo
I Have A Question For All Users Of This Room !!
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There is a wealth of information and helpful suggestions in this room. I would like to propose we start using a Hash(#) tagging in titles now that you can also edit titles. The reason is to make the room more searchable for all the great stuff here. Take a look at the APPS room http://friendfeed.com/rooms... at how they are doing it. I would like to keep it to 4or 5 tags only. What do you think? Tag suggestions?
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
We could maybe get ED to put the ones we decide on in the header for everyone to use/follow
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Still thinking about the tags - excellent idea, thanks Ron :-)
- Kim Baillie
Like your idea. Tags base on the 4 part of symphony. #market research, #traffic, #conversion, #product ... some o/r #seo, #web.
- Buff Toast
@Buff I think that those Tags would be "spot on". I would shorten the first one though to be just #research. It just keeps adding one to a title short and sweet, But the room seems pretty slow or just no interest in this so far.We'll have to give it awhile and see :) It would just make doing a search for something sooo much easier.☼ So What do you say peeps? Yes? No? To much work, It sucks?
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
@Ron, I am sure peeps will want tis. They could be thinking of tags ... or else, could it be they don't understand the Hash# concept? And I agree to keeping tags short.
- Buff Toast
@Ron, how about tagging a thread of yours in this room as a demo?
- Buff Toast
Here is an example of it in use http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
If u r unsure of how it works, read the little para on Hash Tag. Tag and search concept can be applied in tis room too. http://resources.pathable.com/twitter...
- Buff Toast
The way it works is pretty basic. Say you want to search this room for SEO related threads. You would put #seo in the search bar and all the titles that anyone tagged with #seo would be returned in the results.The reason this is helpful is because ppl use different terms to refer to the same subject which can make it harder to find what you may be looking for. Thus the reason for Hash tags #
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Excellent love it anyone new (or restarting) could then easily find all the info they require on a certain topic by using the # tag, before they become overwhelmed or tempted to give up - really great question thanks Ron.
- Groobers
It would defiantly facilitate searching. Being this room is centered around the 30DC and to keep it relevant to marketing, the tags @Buff Toast suggested seem appropriate e.g. #research, #traffic, #conversion, #product #seo #web. I would suggest to keep it to 6 or 7 tags so it doesn't become to confusing. I am open for more suggestions though.
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Thanks Buff I'll add them to the list :)
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Since we can now edit FF posts, we can even go back and add the hash tags to our previous posts (as well as comments).
- Isha (Marysia)
Have we decided on the #s? Let's start tagging.
- Buff Toast
"Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent." ~Friedrich Nietzsche
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Transferring FeedBurner Accounts to Google Accounts #web - https://www.google.com/support...
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Quote: "We are currently planning to have all accounts moved by February 28, 2009. We will make all efforts to notify you promptly when you can move your account. Currently, all AdSense publishers are free to update their account. If you do not have a Google AdSense account, you are encouraged to apply. All other publishers will be presented with a link inside of feedburner.com in the near future."
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Looking for good Speech-to-Text software. Does anyone have experience (or know someone who does) with good applications?
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Dragon Naturallyspeaking. http://www.nuance.com/natural... Pricey but very good
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Ron is correct. Version 10 is the latest. My kids pooled their $ and bought me 9 preferred and then 10 came out. But Nuance is decent about upgrade rebates.
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
i'm using Vista's Speech functionality, but I really don't like it, as it doesn't work with Firefox or chrome.
- Jason Dever
How is Naturallyspeaking 10? I've read some reviews and it seems folks still like version 9. I have a 5 year old Wintel machine and am concerned 10 may not work.
- davidraffenberg
Picked up Dragon Naturally Speaking 10 with a Andrea headset. The good - I mumble a lot and it picks up 90% of what I saw with 2 hours training. Do some more training and it will get up over 95% easily. The bad - after getting it I found that typing forms part of my thinking process. My fingers just follow on with my mind. When speaking though, I have to think about what I want to write...
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- gerry
I used to use 7, 8 and 9 versions when I had injured right arm. 9 was very good and I was hardly impatient with it at all - which is saying a lot. 10 should be great. You need somewhere very quiet and private or you'll seem like Captain Kirk. The trick is to use it often and get it trained to your voice and always correct mistakes verbally so it gets it right next time. It does become very fast. I'm a fast touch typist and dragon can type faster than me on a good day. More practice - more good days.
- Rosie Peters
Now this is just an idea and I have not thought out any details yet, but just in case anyone is interested I have an offer to make. Do you find you just don’t have enough time to do all the things required for your blogs? Or do you want a photo to be more than just a plain photo in your store? I know there are a lot of free tools out there that...
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I know there are a lot of free tools out there that can do the job for you, but do you have the time to mess around with photos to get just the look you want. I have photoshop software, am I good at it not brilliant but I would like more practice. So to the offer I am thinking I could maybe set up a friend feed room and if anyone would like me to have a go at creating a logo for them or jazzing up a photo for their store, I could have a go. I am not saying that I could create anything better than you but this will be a free service and you don’t have to use what I create but for me it would give me a chance to practice in a market that I am interested in. Anyway it was just an idea.
- Groobers
Thanks Groobers for the generous offer-I'll think of you next time!
- Inspired Writing Research
Sounds like a great idea!
- Jen
Want something to practise on? I need an avatar/favicon for PopularDelusions.net. You can see the image I was using on my old HTML practice site on the home page. I was thinking of just using the P and the D, maybe nested, in a 100x100 image, in a similar old-fashioned "newspaper headline" font. Wanna play? Feel free to say, "bugger off!" 8-))
- LJF Wolffe
Thank You LJF I would love to play around with it, I will start on it tomorrow, as the girls are demanding my attention now, thank you so much for giving me the chance.
- Groobers
Cool! Let me know when you're done -- and wherever I use it, you'll get the credit! 8-)
- LJF Wolffe
Hey Groobers - excellent idea - I am in the process of overhauling my Scentsible Wellness site and I'd love to put a logo together but haven't done anything yet. As you know I love your creativity from what I've seen and if you want to help me with this I'd love it! We can discuss further at your convenience.
- Elizabeth
Thank you Groobers :)
- Art Y.
I will be in touch Elizabeth thanks for the support, I am off to create now or at least try.
- Groobers
Sounds good. Let me know when you create a room would be very interested for logo. let me know what you need.
- eMarketing Hubs - nat014
LJF I have had a go at your Avatar but was unsure how to show you the end result, as I have not had chance to set up anything for these attempts yet - so as you can see for now Groobers has become a Popular Delusion. Hope you like it just let me know if you want it, or you need me to try again. Cheers
- Groobers
sounds of real interest
- Tim
Tee hee hee! Nice display option. I'm worried that it won't show well as a smaller image (favicon). I was kinda thinking the D nested under/beside the P. I love the reflections, tho . . . could I get you to take one more try?
- LJF Wolffe
Thanks Nathalie - will do but now I'm off for some lunch my stomach is making lots of very strange sounds.
- Groobers
Sure thing LJF to be quite honest I did not have a clue what a favicon was, I thought it was a fancy name for avatar - what a duh head!
- Groobers
Thanks Tim - now back to my belly - feed me .
- Groobers
LJF - Avatar mark 2 - I promise Monday to get a room, and stop clogging up this feed. Cheers and have a fab and groovy week-end everyone.
- Groobers
Ohhh, Goobers, that's GORGEOUS!!! I love it, I want it! We need to figure out how to transfer it -- maybe email? Lemme know! (You'll also need to know where I should link to when I brag about this -- and I will!)
- LJF Wolffe
I am so glad you like it my friend I was a little nervous I can tell you - email is fine with me - what is the best way for me to get your email address?
- Groobers
I'm at lfwolffe over on gmail (dot com).
- LJF Wolffe
It should be on its way, time to switch off the PC, listen to some tunes or maybe even a podcast or two, then time for a well earned drinkypoo.
- Groobers
Can you put links to the avatars into the new room Groobers (providing the peeps they are for agree of course)?
- Isha (Marysia)
Heck, when the room is started, I'll put this one in myself, just ot brag. And when the FriendFeed room and the FaceBook pages for Popular Delusions are created, this'll be the avatar I use. All will contain credit links -- because the only payment I can give right now is word of mouth, and this'll speak for itself. 8-)
- LJF Wolffe
Great job, Groobers! Now I want one too :-))
- Jen
Presto Chango - I'm back - it was nice to be a PD for a while - thanks LJF that was fun.
- Groobers
Oh, good! You gave me a startle this morning -- I thought your post might have come from my new FF room! Very glad to have you back to being you . . . 8-))
- LJF Wolffe
A new FF room I'm off for a looksee...
- Groobers
LJF I can not believe you did a blog post about me, you are truly a real friend, Thank You. (Would it be ok for me to join your room, it looks interesting (or would that be a little weird?)
- Groobers
Would it be OK? Of course! It's a public room, after all, and the more the merrier! I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of stuff ends up in there; I'm planning on tagging any resources I use to write posts. Come on in! 8-))
- LJF Wolffe
I'm packing up my troubles in my old kit bag and I will be over in a min thanks LJF
- Groobers
did you set up a room? Would be interested for 2 logos. Thanks
- eMarketing Hubs - nat014
Yay ! just got my first twitter follower on my keyword persona's twitter!
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Lucky duck. My 1st follower was a porn site ... and I thought I have a fan.
- Buff Toast
Must be that cute photo you have as your avatar Buff Toast ;-) Is it a Moomin? I loved Tove Jansson's books.
- Isha (Marysia)
Congrats Marysia! Wishing you many more :-)
- Jen
Thanks Jenny, fingers crossed.
- Isha (Marysia)
Congrats! :) I think I might need a separate twitter account too... Hmm...
- Art Y.
Thanks Art! I had a lot of trouble logging out of my ishabluebell twitter so that I could create a second twitter identity, and found a great way to do it - I logged out in Opera, and then found that it hadn't logged me out in Flock. So I now can use my niche twitter in Opera and my ishabluebell twitter in Flock & Twhirl - that is so cool.
- Isha (Marysia)
Ic. That's great! :) I was just pondering about how to do that... Thanks! Now I can separate my TDC twitter account from my talking about desserts twitter...
- Art Y.
I believe that with Twhirl http://twhirl.org/ you can monitor multiple accounts at once.
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Thanks Ron. You prompted me to do a search: http://www.google.com/search... I'm looking at this one at the moment: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008...
- Isha (Marysia)
Yep thats it. You can also monitor Friendfeed with it to at the same time :)
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
I have my FF in Twhirl but have never used it since Real-time started - the Twhirl client's too small for the job for me. But I find it good for Twitter.
- Isha (Marysia)
I agree with the too small. Ok back to the other room. Going to wear a path in the carpet going back and forth. lol
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
ROFL
- Isha (Marysia)
Privacy Page edit video up if interested Sorry for the delay - http://www.locateproreview.com/dtdir...
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Cool! I love your voice Ron! Really easy to follow too.
- Isha (Marysia)
Thanks Ron, very helpful!
- Jen
You are too kind "blush" Thank you Hope the vid helps. Its nothing fancy, just a quick unedited "Heres how"
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
I never even knew that you could save documents in formats other than .txt in Notepad. And the way you just dragged it from your desktop to your browser, and Nvu - a brilliant tutorial - I've learnt so much!
- Isha (Marysia)
@Marysia Cool...Sounds like you got more out of the video than what its main focus was. LOL Its awesome when I over deliver and don't even know it :)
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
:D
- Isha (Marysia)
@Jenny Thank you Glad to be of service :)
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Thanks Ron! I was finally able to put up Google Adsense on my site. And I've earned 25 cents so far today! Now, I can finally launch a 'killer' post that will (hopefully) drive traffic to my site in droves and spread like crazy. :)
- Art Y.
Totally Cool Art Y !! I hope the video was of help ♣♠♥♦
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Yes it was! :) Great video and well made.
- Art Y.
Wow this was cool. I set one up in less than 3 minutes, i just have to edit it. Thanks for the recommendation and video.
- Mara Dower
@Mara Wow 3 mins. The video takes longer to watch than that, and its short. "Rad" that it was helpful to you. guess it works ☼☼
- Ron"micronet"Harwood
Thanks. Great stuff. Very clear and well done.
- eMarketing Hubs - nat014
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