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Björn Brembs
"Our work in building large-scale reputation systems suggests that it may be possible to build such a system on two pillars: a system of incentives for authors of papers and reviews alike, and a content-driven way of measuring merit and attributing rewards. The reputation of people as authors would depend, as usual, on their publishing works of high measured value. And crucially, the reputation of people as reviewers would depend on their ability to be early reliable predictors of the future value of a work. Thus, two skills would be required of a successful reviewer: the ability to produce reviews that are later deemed by the community to be accurate, and the ability to do so early, anticipating the consensus. This is the main factor that would drive well-respected people to act as talent scouts, and to review freshly published papers, rather than piling up on works by famous authors. Reviews would be ranked by reputation, thus diminishing irrelevant comments, as Amazon has shown it is possible to do." - Björn Brembs from Bookmarklet
I'd like to comment there with a link to the old threads about reputation systems here, for instance the one with the Yahoo patterns a few years back. Does anyone still have a link for these threads? - Björn Brembs
Anyone interested in trying out an "online collaboration" project? I made a fly nervous system targeted transgene that could be interesting once a transgenic stock is made. Anyhow, will be cool to set up a project development site.. may be using a fly-wiki of sorts. - Bala
@Bala: I'm definitely interested! - Björn Brembs
@Brembs: Cool. How do we do this? It's a calbindin-Gal4/VP16 construct, just gave it for sequencing this morn'. - Bala
@Brembs: I'm a big fan of the github model. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Bala
You'd have to get extra points for making a prediction (a.k.a. bet) that goes against what most other reviewers predict (or else no one would want to review a controversial paper). Regarding "[...] as Amazon has shown it is possible to do": Amazon has also shown how difficult it is to prevent people from gaming such reputation systems... - Eric Jain
@Bala: either post the info somewhere or send me an email: bjoern@brembs.net We can work on the biology but are not developers, so GitHub is not the way to go, at least not on our side. - Björn Brembs
Looking for points systems - read (or listen to) Eric Weinstein talking about this. Much more sophisticated analysis based on real experience of financial systems. If you go long on something that looks unlikely (or go short on something that everyone agrees with) you get to buy low and sell high. I never quite got my head around whether Eric really meant that this should involve real money. But anyway an interesting thought experiment. - Cameron Neylon
@Cameron: Have a link to a paper or a talk by Eric Weinstein were he talks about this? - Eric Jain
There should be plenty of experience in other reputation systems to come up with a version for scientists that should be a very good starting point, from which optimization could begin. Some of the properties of the system could even be easily crowdsourced. - Björn Brembs
Eric, do a search for PIRSA and Eric Weinstein (and possibly "owes me a dollar") and you'll find the video of a talk he gave a few years back. I haven't tracked down any papers (he really is a hedge fund manager) but you can find some stuff on his personal website (sorry for lack of links don't have proper connection at moment to search) - Cameron Neylon from twhirl
Paul Buchheit
Prediction: Social game mechanics are like a disease to which people will soon become immune. The reason: Nobody is impressed by your score.
Does this apply for successful communities like stackoverflow? - Syam K
Reputation can have value if it applies to something that could potentially impress someone you care about. - Paul Buchheit
It's still a huge hype, however. - Özkan Altuner from Android
Social Game Mechanics are only good if Reputation System or other Incentive System is tied in, either your score/ rank or whatever badge/ tag has a real value of being cared about, or it's other sort of incentives like deals/ benefits that you earn with virtual credit/ currency you managed to score. - Ali Sohani
What is the difference between social game dynamics and game dynamics? Is the social part really important? - Edwin Khodabakchian from iPhone
Are you talking about something like Farmville? If so, women people don't play that to score points. They play it to have fun and socialize. - Gabe
People will seek out tribes where a score in their preferred medium is a mark of distinction and provides the desired social plumage. At that point it doesn't matter if those outside the group are indifferent or derisive, it could even been a positive and will act as group unifying force. The Making More Money Game is the primary example of such social game mechanics. - Todd Hoff
I generally see reputation about being a bigger part of something else. Like social search, etc. - Space Cowboy
isn't Friendfeed a very clever game Paul? The Game of Stream or Stream Game. - Thomas Power
That all depends on which set of "social game mechanics" you're talking about. I'd say that the mechanics for, say, Foursquare work quite well. And you don't have to "impress". It's enough to be able to "inform". - Otto
Brands surely must embed themselves in the game as they have always. Business has always been a game. Social Media just made it faster, more cunning and funnier. - Thomas Power
Hacker News karma is a form of game mechanics. Twitter visibility on follower/following/lists? Game mechanics. If we "become immune" to these things, what do we return to? Bulletin boards? Wiki pages? - Hutch Carpenter
Hutch: We just move on to the next game, whatever that might be. - Gabe
I don't know about that. Status-seeking is such a deeply ingrained drive. Higher reasoning such as "in *actuality*, nobody will be impressed by your score" may not apply. - Ruchira S. Datta
Gabe - right. There will always be a better game, won't there? - Hutch Carpenter
Ruchira - I agree. To assume we get over game mechanics is to assume a fundamental rewiring of humans. - Hutch Carpenter
Just cause you suck at Bejewelled Blitz... :P - Johnny from iPhone
I'm not exactly sure the reason is right, but I think game mechanics does run a course. Having been a gamer in the *early* days, you get deep into a game it loses something as you continue. And when you jump to the next new game the time to burnout got shorter until I didn't even want the new game. - AJ Kohn
I'm not saying that status-seeking goes away, but actually the opposite -- most of these games give "rewards" that don't confer and real status ("nobody is impressed"). Things like Twitter follower counts clearly _do_ matter to people. The success of your FarmVille farm? Less clear. - Paul Buchheit
I don't have a fully informed position on this prediction. But in my experience, smart people are often wrong when they make a prediction of the form, "The world will soon wise up about X." - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
It has nothing to do with "wising up" Bruce. It's more like a disease that burns itself out. - Paul Buchheit
I think it's a good way of getting users involved quickly, and provides instant gratification which will keep users coming back ie farmville but if you don't have any legit features and reasons to continue using the site or game then users will eventually stop using it... That's why I prefer Brightkite over foursquare - Wesley Robin Guerrero from iPod
your farm in farmville might not impress alot of people but if you are top10 in the starcraft 2 platinum league then that matters to me and to quite alot of other people. i think your just a little bit too old paul :D (twitter follower count is something i dont give a damn about,..thanks to all these scammers and seo experts that ruin the value of such numbers) - Chris Hofmann
Gaming the game (game theory) explains the burn out. The system acquires friction and dilution by combatting the gaming of the rules. (the rules are no game) - Cliff Gerrish
Faisal Qureshi
#quote Safeguarding t rights of others is t most noble & beautiful end of a human being~Gibran
Mike Chelen
Tribler and Bitlet offer two takes on torrent-powered video streaming - http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009...
Tribler and Bitlet offer two takes on torrent-powered video streaming
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"BitLet, whose client-free torrent downloader we first mentioned on DownloadSquad two years ago, have been hard at work on a new project. Their torrent-powered streaming video service is now available for a public preview." - Mike Chelen from Bookmarklet
"Tribler, on the other hand, is a desktop application that allows you to search for and stream just about any format your computer is capable of playing. It's available for Windows, Mac, and Linux - a Ubuntu .deb is provided as is the source code." - Mike Chelen
Sector - Telco
Paper I am working on: The role of the Internet in future energy networks: Decentralization of Energy networks and insights for Smart Grids from Peer to Peer and Ubiquitous computing - http://opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archive...
Over Easter, I have been working on a paper as below. if you are working in related areas, happy to speak. I am specifically interested more in the last bit i.e. Finally, the Internet itself is evolving and hence we discuss the evolution of the Internet and the topic of Overlay networks. We are interested in exploring the scenario of a future energy network as an overlay network to the Internet when entities (devices and people) begin to communicate at and to trade energy without human intervention. The paper - The role of the Internet in future energy networks: Decentralization of Energy networks and insights for Smart Grids from Peer to Peer and Ubiquitous computing discusses the impact of the Internet on the Smart Grid domain. We first provide an overview of current state of the Intelligent energy networks (Smart Grids) and then discuss the impact of the Internet on Smart Grids. The Internet has a tendency to push intelligence to the edge of the network (i.e. to decentralize...
I truly encourage this, would love to discuss this with you... - Ali Sohani
John G Bell
Secret of Annoying Crowds Revealed - ScienceNOW - http://news.sciencemag.org/science...
"Push, shout, or politely excuse yourself all you want, but those slowpokes in your way just won't budge. A new study shows a long-neglected reason why: Up to 70% of people in crowds socially glue themselves into groups of two or more, slowing down traffic. What's worse, as crowds gets denser, groups bend into anti-aerodynamic shapes that exacerbate the problem. The study may be a boon to urban planners. Crowd physicists already understand the effects of bottlenecked entrances, dueling streams of pedestrian traffic, and even "turbulence" in shoulder-to-shoulder mobs. In the past 15 years, this work has led to decent mathematical models that architects, city planners, and pretty much anyone dealing with crowds can use to make their spaces safer and more flock-friendly. Trouble is, the simulations treat people as independent particles—ignoring our love of sticking in groups and blabbing with friends." - John G Bell
Sachin Palewar
2 questions on Admission form make me little uncomfortable 1. Father's Education 2. Monther's Name.
Robert Scoble
iPhone app uses vision to solve Sudoku puzzles - http://www.viddler.com/explore...
iPhone app uses vision to solve Sudoku puzzles
Take a picture of a puzzle in a newspaper and this iPhone app solves it. - Robert Scoble
That's very cool. I've seen this technology working with Rubik's Cube as well. - Nir Ben Yona
Wow, that's actually pretty impressive. I don't really play sudoku, but it's always nice to have a freshly solved one on the coffee table to give the impression of intelligence! - Steve Farnworth
Thanks Peter! By the way, that was filmed next to the Pitt Building in Cambridge, UK. What's cool about that building? That's where the first academic publishing house was formed (Cambridge University Press). If I remember all the facts right, that is. - Robert Scoble
This is cool. But I still prefer manually.. to test your brain - Jeremy
very impressive, but - at the risk of sounding like a grumpy old man - where's the fun in having your iPhone solve the puzzle for you? - Andrew Terry
Robert: that's Pitt not Penn ;) http://www.cambridge.org/pittbui... - Oleg Podsechin
Andrew: I hate Sudoku games, so for me it's more fun to use technology. Heheh. - Robert Scoble
Oleg: oh, sorry about that. Gotta get sleep. - Robert Scoble
Hang on a sec - I've just replayed the video.. once you've taken the picture, you are actually able to solve the puzzle yourself on the phone! That is super-cool! - Andrew Terry
Robert: no worries, it was great to have you over here btw. looking forward to the PrismaStar and Broadersheet videos. - Oleg Podsechin
Oleg: both of those videos should be up tomorrow. - Robert Scoble
Cool but I have to agree with Jeremy, manually is better - Cristian
Just installed the app (the video says "Sudoku Magic" but it's "Sudoku Grab" from the looks of it). Absolute best bit of this app is that it's a really good soduku app in its own right. The point-the-camera-to-solve is just an extra side benefit and a great way to source puzzles. No success yet using the camera on the 3G -- I have to manually update some of the numbers. Maybe the 3GS works better? - RickMeasham
@RickMeasham that isn't the one Scoble saw, the Sudoku Grab is a different (less clever) one. The Sudoku Magic one is coming out ASAP. - Peter Clark
here's the sudoku magic link: http://MagicSolver.com - Peter Clark
Here's the link for the Sudoku Magic application itself: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje... - Oliver Lamming
Thanks Robert, Sudoku Magic, is now available on the App store! http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje... Emmanuel www.magicsolver.com - Emmanuel Carraud
Excellent work - good job guys. - Rahul Vohra
Parker Todd Brooks
RT @jherskowitz: list of projects created at #musichackday http://musichackday.org/info... & hack to initiate P2P sharing over Twitter: http://pipes.yahoo.com/jhersko...
Ivan Zuzak
"Today we're introducing Google Fusion Tables on Labs, an experimental system for data management in the cloud. It draws on the expertise of folks within Google Research who have been studying collaboration, data integration, and user requirements from a variety of domains. Fusion Tables is not a traditional database system focusing on complicated SQL queries and transaction processing. Instead, the focus is on fusing data management and collaboration: merging multiple data sources, discussion of the data, querying, visualization, and Web publishing. We plan to iteratively add new features to the systems as we get feedback from users." - Ivan Zuzak from Bookmarklet
it's exciting! - Sets Turan
Ivan Zuzak
"...we're now ready to show off -- and get feedback on -- the gadgets.realtime set of APIs. These APIs will let Google gadgets hosted in different user's browsers communicate with each other. The first API, gadgets.sharedstate, is available on the new Talk Developer Sandbox. With this API, you can share an object between instances of a gadget, and be notified in realtime when the other instance modifies it. More APIs and UI improvements to allow gadgets.realtime gadgets to be used on orkut and iGoogle are in the works and coming soon." - Ivan Zuzak from Bookmarklet
This reminds me, Google gets extra points in my book for using a sample chess gadget in Wave :) - Ahsan Ali
Chess FTW! : ) - vijay
I don't think it's available for me to use yet, am I right? - vijay
hehe; dunno, I'll stick to FICS until Google Wave let's me 'wave' moves ;) - Ahsan Ali
this is not google wave, it's a new api for google gadgets. but since gadgets will be a part of wave, it's all good :) - Ivan Zuzak
Of course, we were digressing ;) - Ahsan Ali
Vijay, you can use the chess app now but both parties need to be running on the Talk sandbox. See the blog post for more info. And, yeah, the same gadgets that run in the Talk sandbox will run in Wave. - Moishe Lettvin
Thanks Lettvin! How about a game then? =P - vijay
Yeah, me too. I wanna play too ! :D - Ahsan Ali
I'm dying to try Google Wave. Gosh, it's *months* away still, isn't it? :-( - Kol Tregaskes
Hold on, Kol ;-) - stanjourdan
Hehe, trying my best. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Vijay, my chess skills are weak, I'm sure you'd make short work of me :) I'm happy just giving people another way to play! - Moishe Lettvin
LANjackal
Google looks to fast-track employee ideas | Digital Media - CNET News - http://news.cnet.com/8301-10...
Google looks to fast-track employee ideas | Digital Media - CNET News
"Google is looking for ways to make sure its engineers have ways to get their ideas up the food chain before they take them somewhere else." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
But when will they find the next adwords? - Ben
LANjackal
"On Google Maps, we try to label important places directly on the map tiles. But sometimes, it seems more helpful to just click on a point and ask "What's here?". Now you can do exactly that with an option we've added under the right-click menu. When you click on "What's here?", we give you the most relevant result representing that location, whether it's a specific address, a natural entity, or a place name." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
Its possible now to extract exact lat/lang a feature which was so missing till now. When will they be able to exchange location with mobile google map? - Roni Segoly
arnaldostream
Google v. Facebook? What We Learn from Twitter. - John Battelle's Searchblog - http://battellemedia.com/archive...
"Last week I wrote a post in which I opined a bit about Facebook search. In it I wrote: Facebook is way more than its newsfeed, and its search play is key to proving that value, and extending it....No doubt building Facebook search today is akin to building Google ten years ago - bigger, most likely, in terms of data, algorithmic, and platform challenges. If only I had waited a few days, I could have pointed to Fred's piece in Wired, out this week. He profiles the ongoing feud between the King of Search, Google, and the upstart, Facebook. In his piece, he writes: For the last decade or so, the Web has been defined by Google's algorithms—rigorous and efficient equations that parse practically every byte of online activity to build a dispassionate atlas of the online world. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg envisions a more personalized, humanized Web, where our network of friends, colleagues, peers, and family is our primary source of information, just as it is offline. In Zuckerberg's... more... - arnaldostream from Bookmarklet
FTA: "I think it's a major strategic mistake to not offer this information to Google (and anyone else that wants to crawl it.) In fact, I'd argue that the right thing to do is to make just about everything possible available to Google to crawl, then sit back and watch while Google struggles with whether or not to "organize it and make it universally available."" - Apparently this guy... more... - LANjackal
LANjackal
"Sherpa uses a learning engine called GENIE (Geodelic Engine for Interest Evaluation) that automatically learns a user’s favorite locations and lifestyle behavior. If a user eats out more than they shop, it modifies itself and tailors the experience to begin showing more restaurants and less retail stores. When you launch the Sherpa application on your phone, it assigns you a random number that’s stored at Geodelic’s data center. That number is used to reference you and all of your preferences that the app gleans from your searches, so there’s never a need to input anything manually. And the GENIE tech means the more you search, the “smarter” the application gets — with just a few clicks on your phone, Geodelic’s technology yields location information that’s instantly customized to you, but for which you may not have been looking." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
LANjackal
"Google has unveiled the Android 1.5 NDK Release 1, a toolkit that gives developers the ability to call into native code from Android applications. Using this kit will mean that programmers--in tandem with the existing Android SDK--can create apps with faster performance when necessary, as opposed to running the entire time from within the Dalvik virtual machine: good news for owners of the T-Mobile G1, as well as anyone interested in the just-announced HTC Hero" - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
Robert Scoble
Real-time systems hurting long-term knowledge? - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
Might be. Real-time systems hurt "time" and "energy", but when the way to gain information and knowledge has changed from "one-way" to "interact", we do need a realtime platform; real-time makes us consume information too fast, information becomes "history" when it's been consumed; being "too fast", we become less sensitive to information and it might cause we are "sensitiveless" to taking action, and "taking actions" change the world:) - K.D.
paving the way for LT knowledge - iTbay
naw, not for me. Distributed knowledge is emerging from the tacit and explicit. Nonaka talked about it in his book the knowledge creating company 1995. he called it middle out or something like that, as opposed to top down or bottom up - Robert Higgins
Twitter search is broken. FF search isn't great, but it's better than Twitter. I agree this is time for Facebook or Google to step up. Facebook already has almost the same abilities as Friendfeed (since they copied), while lacking some other services and features that FriendFeed has. I was actually kinda disappointed with what Google has not done with jaiku and Orkut. They could still... more... - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
However, Twitter / FF Search was and is invaluable when the Iran protests (or any other major breaking news) is happening, with no one else even close in terms of the coverage. Sure, it needs to be filtered and better organized, but that'll happen. - Bob Morris (polizeros)
Bob, completely agree. For "real-time" searching, Twitter and FF are amazing. But after a while it gets lost. The first service to allow searching "archives" will win - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Ok then Scoble, as an experiment. Does your repost here get more comments than the original on your blog? I'm guessing it does. - Bob Morris (polizeros)
twitter is not meant to deliver knowlege,on the contrary ,she delivers situation,points - boockit
IMHO, conversations happen in real-time and analysis over the long-term. It is disappointing that search/archiving capability sucks on the real-time sites and I agree, there's a huge opportunity for Google to own this space, but the question is whether it's listening. - MiaD
real-time is itself a source. We need tools to farm the source for things relevant to us. - Ahsan Ali
@Bob, the question shouldn't be "does it get more comments?" but "does it get better-quality comments?". It seems to me like a lot of the comments here aren't really addressing the substantive points Robert is making. - Ian Betteridge
Apart from the search problems, do you think long-term knowledge benefits from a 140 character container? - Yousef
We will build AI systems that will encompass and integrate ultra-real time microscopic data gathering and analysis with ultra-long term macroscopic knowledge systems. They will advise us to the best of our abilities to understand them. - Sean McBride
"best of our ability to understand" the AIs? you mean they're all gonna talk like The Architect in "The Matrix?" ergo, some of their answers we will understand and some we will not? concordantly, while we remain irrevocably human, and our queries may be pertinent, we may or may not realize that they are also irrelevant? ;-) - Karim
I think that at least the client you use should store your searches and cache the results, providing you with a local archive so you have a journal of your actions. Given the massive volume of tweets every day, do you think it's even do-able to store everything. Everything? - Marlin Forbes
Storing everything on the Internet permanently (not just Twitter tweets) wouldn't be too difficult for some large corporations and government agencies. It's probably being done already. Data mining that collection with automated knowledge discovery systems that are capable of learning and self-improvement is the more interesting question. - Sean McBride
Frankie Warren
I think there is serious potential for someone to come in and steal Linkedin's market. Can't get excited about that site.
LinkedIn is one of those sites where it always feels like there's value but I just can't really seem to find any. Plus their interface is just FUBAR. Navigation on a social site shouldn't be that awkward. - Bryan Zirkel
There are sites like VisualCV already trying to do that, in essence to capture the market, moreover Job Portals are adopting Social Networks too, I believe LinkedIn team works more on their software architecture to make it scale up on massive network connections then it's UI, I think they gonna soon catch up on UI side too. Moreover LinkedIn treats every professional like same, while... more... - Ali Sohani
Mike Bracco
RSS is dead says Steve Gillmor in this TechCrunch article from about a month ago. For me, most everything now comes to me via the FF/Twitter stream. - http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009... Do you still use an RSS reader or does info come to you mostly from FF/Twitter etc..?
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Oh dear, Mike. - Leo Laporte
I almost agree - the RSS feed is just a way to pull posts into other things now... like Friend Feed. It's just a data stream. - Robert Freeze
:-) Leo.... - Chris Heath
RSS is just as dead as XML ... wait - what's our definition of dead? http://www.google.com/search... - Chris Heath
Mike: We need to get you caught up quick... ;-) See http://friendfeed.com/davew... - Ken Sheppardson
Ken - thanks. I was sure it was posted before - I could have done a FF search first ;) Just thought I would get a discussion going on Building43 - Mike Bracco
Well my usage of RSS in a feedreading capacity has dwindled. Google Reader says "From your 195 subscriptions, over the last 30 days you read 801 items..". I can remember not long ago when that would easily be several thousand entries per month. - Jamie
yeah ken i was going to post a search too: http://friendfeed.com/search... - this article of steve's has been hashed and re-hashed so much in the last month i'm not sure if i'm at a waffle house or stoned somewhere on the indian sub-continent - Chris Heath
Leo: maybe "dead" language a little harsh given recent events - my bad :) - Mike Bracco
Mike, maybe... but can you say that RSS was ever alive? - Chris Heath
Ah.. gotcha... you're just carting the horse carcass over into building43. Got it, Mike. ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
Chris - Not for the masses, but with the "tech savy" so to speak it is or was. I'm not really making the statement in relation to the masses. - Mike Bracco
Ken: Ok, I think I missed some Internet drama - what happen with this post? - Mike Bracco
Mike: The discussion on the next Gillmor Gang after this post from Steve elicited this feedback - http://friendfeed.com/davew... - Ken Sheppardson
Ken: thanks, I will check it out. - Mike Bracco
Not dead for me. FF has become my way of keeping up with individuals, but my RSS reader is still how I keep up with websites and various other news sources that I don't necessarily want clogging up my FF. I read them when I get to them, rather than worrying they'll be buried an endless info stream somewhere. - Ben Reierson
Mike, i'm just trying to make Dave Winer's point (that i agree with) that using alive and dead are not good ways to describe a technology since technologies do not have lives - it's like a lazy way of saying what you mean that allows misunderstandings to flourish (see the hot discussion of steve's post, for instance) - Chris Heath
Another anecdotal piece of evidence: I've never really used an RSS reader, but I use RSS all the time. I've got a bunch of RSS piped into frienfeed and my iGoogle page has an updating word of the day along with slashdot's most recent headlines... on and on and on it goes ... RSS was never alive, so it can never die. Maybe think of it that way. - Chris Heath
Chris - I agree with that. I think there should be a clarification between the act of opening up and reading your RSS feeds in a reader vs the underlying RSS technology. obviously RSS/xml is not going anywhere anytime soon as a information distribution technology. - Mike Bracco
I find it hard to venure back into Google Reader, it seems heavy after Friendfeed and I know that 1000+ unread articles is going to make me feel "out of touch" Where as I can come to Friendfeed and know that a trusted circle plus filtering will let me now what is current, what is right now. However none of that would happen without RSS. So I still heart RSS. - Deano @ Byron New Media
Sip, Dip, Bathe - rinse & repeat - Chris Heath
Mike, I make the difference clear by calling an RSS reader a "feed reader" and the technology RSS - it's really just semantics, but sometimes semantics makes a big difference - Chris Heath
Who really knows what Steve Gillmore is saying in his TechCrunch articles. It's more poetry than punditry. I think it's interesting to think about people using likes, shares, retweets, and such as their news instead of going to the source with a tool like Google Reader. If we all did that, there would be no likes to read. Would we start following middlemen who we find interesting and let them do all the leg work? Is that what Scoble is to some extent? How would a middleman make a living? - Chip Ramsey
+1 Dean and Andy. RSS is alive and well as far as being data glue. Just look at Scoble's "ego feed" FF Room/"Group" (still can't get used to that). Very powerful when you can plug in RSS from anywhere including tools like Google Alerts. I myself never really got into RSS readers very much, & I think that overall RSS has failed mostly on the (brand) naming level - it sounds too technical... more... - Alex Schleber
Not dead for me... it't easier for me to use than other methods... easier to subscribe to new feeds, and easier to scan 2-3000 titles of stories when I want to do it... instead of them streaming at me. twitter & FF are great for the "chosen" stories by people I follow closely. RSS for me is the mass stream of stuff. RSS + bigtweet are my primate inputs methods - MarkHirsch
I pipe my RSS directly in to FriendFeed. I never could get used to a feed reader. Prior to this, I had it sent to me via email. - Miss Elle
Hell, yes, I still use RSS. How could I keep anything sorted? - Steven Perez
RSS is definitely NOT dead. I follow about 150 blogs and news sites via Google Reader. I really like Friendfeed, but find that I get a much more comprehensive list of news and information in a more timely manner from my RSS feed. - Jeff P. Henderson
I stopped using an RSS reader a long time ago. Too inefficient. - Thomas Hawk
If you follow too many feeds with your RSS reader it will get out of control very quickly. You have to keep it to a manageable number of feeds. For me I am probably at my limit with ~150 feeds. I do house cleaning every once in a while keep my feeds lean and useful. - Jeff P. Henderson
still use RSS - Wayne Sutton
No. I never use Google Reader anymore. I use PeopleBrowsr. - Svartling
Only thing dead here is that poor horse ;( - Bwana ☠
Nicholas: Exactly! RSS is not dead it is just being proliferated on different platforms, like Twitter and friendfeed! - Garin Kilpatrick
I still use RSS. - LarchOye
rss is not dead its evolving into something else, what that is I don't know - Kim Landwehr
I still use RSS and Twitter. In fact, I sometimes use RSS to keep track of Twitter people. - Dan Foley
Michael Nielsen
What are your favourite papers about machine learning / data mining?
I'd like to compile a list of classics - say a top 30 that could be read as a way of getting a good overview of the key ideas. If you have two or three favourite papers that don't obviously already appear here, could you please add them below? What I'm most looking for is the gems - papers that really have a high payoff per unit time spent. Learning of underappreciated gems would be especially helpful! - Michael Nielsen
A few to start: Page and Brin's classic paper on PageRank; Jon Kleinberg's paper on ranking webpages (http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~michae... ); the IBM group's early classic on statistical machine translation (http://portal.acm.org/citatio... ) - Michael Nielsen
Some related classes, with good reading lists: Michael Mitzenmacher's course (http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~michae... ); Jon Kleinberg's course (http://www.cs.cornell.edu/courses... ); Andrew Ng's class (http://www.stanford.edu/class... ) - Michael Nielsen
Rudi Cilibrasi has some remarkable papers here: http://cilibrar.com/ In particular, his thesis develops a beautiful general purpose method for finding similar objects, based on information theoretic ideas. Roughly speaking, the idea is that the way to compute the similarity of two items, A and B, is to compute (zip(A)+zip(B)-zip(A,B))/max[zip(A), zip(B)], where zip(A) is the length of... more... - Michael Nielsen
More on the clustering side, but some really good papers from a clustering course I took a few years back: http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~shai... - Ilya Grigorik
Machine learning? Sutton & Barto 1990: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/%7Esutt... Temporal difference learning - Björn Brembs
Braitenberg, V. (1984). Vehicles: Experiments in synthetic psychology. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press. - Daniel Mietchen
My personal classics are 1. Epicurus principle as explained in [Trigg]; 2. Occams razor as explaind in [Domingos]; and 3. Risk reduction as explained in [Netlab]. -- All those principles are much more helpfull to explain what machine learning is about than yet-another few more percent accuracy -- References [Trigg] L. Trigg. ‘Designing Similarity Functions’. Dissertation, University of... more... - joergkurtwegner
Thankyou, everyone, it's good stuff! Keep them coming in. - Michael Nielsen
Brad Williamson
"Here's a NBC News clip from 1994. In it, correspondent Tom Brokaw interviews a pair of executives: Sun Microsystems's Eric Schmidt and Microsoft's Bill Gates. The topic? "Something called the Internet." We know. Awesome. Anyway, our favorite bit is when Tom Brokaw asks Gates: "Are a lot of people just getting on to the Internet because they feel like they have to get on the playing field, so to speak?" "Well, it's very hip to be on the Internet right now," says Gates -- 12 years before Twitter was founded." - Brad Williamson from Bookmarklet
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When did the internet get renamed "the cloud"? - Miss Elle
"...something that's called The Internet". - phil baumann
I won't lie ... back in '97 I thought the Internet was just some electronics fad like the DCC. By '99 I was hooked and never recovered :P - LANjackal
In '94 a colleague of mine scoffed at me chasing this this internet thing. He called it the pet rock of the '90s. I think he's currently unemployed :-) - Brent Schlenker
I almost got on it :] in 1992 ... but they told me i would need some "browser" first, so i let it go .. damn the domains i could have registered! :] .. then, i was on Pegasus(?), America Online, text based BBS - Bulletin Board Services ..... well heck, will have to wait till the next, 3rd industrial revolution - 1. steam/machines - 2. internet - 3. what is it going to be? ... i think... more... - pb:
Robert Scoble
Interesting blog from Zoho about how they will use Google Wave. - http://blogs.zoho.com/general...
Exactly! I think some people have written off Wave because the front end stuff is, well, unpolished. But it's the server technology that's the important part of this product. It can have a million different interfaces to the functionality - all working together. - invariant
what's compelling to me is the open source real-time dynamic message syndication and its extensibility using existing technologies. also, its facilities are elegantly divided into the protocol, the api, & the federation. awesome. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
I believe Google is doing whatever it can to cause "Disruption", the notion of "Platform - Product - Protocol" is not new to Google, they have always tried to build out-standing product, and then shape it in way so that it's allowed to be used as a Platform (user-centric-innovation), by providing API's and Open Interfaces or SDK (just like MS started building development tools in 90s... more... - Ali Sohani
A question I asked in my feed: can this scale to having Scoble-like numbers of participants in a "wave"? What kind of horsepower is going to be necessary for a real-time Twitter with an Ashton Kutcher interacting with one million followers? - invariant
invariant: at the Twitter Conference this week we were talking about Ashton. Do you realize that Ashton doesn't really have two million followers? He didn't get them organically. They don't interact with him very much. From what some companies are telling me I'm actually getting more engagement than he is. How can that be? Well people who are new don't tend to engage much. They also... more... - Robert Scoble
Robert - Absolutely. But say you have a real time Twitter, and Ashton posts a tweet. That's a large number of real-time messages that need to be sent, even if only 10% of his followers are currently in front of their machines. And if you treat it like they were treating messaging in the demo, that means nearly every character he typed would have to be sent as he typed it. It will be an interesting technical challenge. - invariant
invariant: regarding the question, wave scalability - this can be spawned off into wavelets and blips. sounds promising to me in that regard. horsepower - i think that question implies a certain hardware dependency & may be a loaded question in an inherent intricacy of an answer. every server on the web have different specs that there's no definite way to answer that i would think. plus... more... - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Real time character posting - I dont think that would work in the case of twitter. The twitter thing they showed looked like you typed it in and then it sent it. I think the real time character updates only shows up between wave participants, which would be a much smaller # given any particular wave. - Justin Long
Presumably, if there was a large server load, it might be possible to adaptively send updates in larger chunks. - Tim Tyler
Custom IM systems have had the opportunity to do character-by-character updates for a long time. Have there been any takers? Is this something users actually want? It seems like a pretty gimicky feature. - Tim Tyler
On the one hand I like it. On the other hand, I don't like the idea that someone might "see" what I am typing before I have the thought fully formed. There is a checkbox to hide realtime update, and presumably they'll have a settings functionality to turn it off en masse (or they ought to). I wonder if the client could do peer-to-peer for updates straight to another participant's IP address? - Justin Long
What FF and Skype let you do is send a partial message - and then edit it. Are people really going to want others to see their comment drafts and mistakes? - Tim Tyler
Tim - Jon LePlastrier and I have been using SubEthaEdit, which has real-time character by character updates to work on code together, while using iChat for IM. What's interesting is that we have found ourselves using the editor for out-of-band comments rather than iChat because as Jens points out, we don't want to be watching the chat window and waiting. From experience, I'd say that... more... - Robin Barooah
Justin: Why in particular do you wonder about peer-to-peer? - Robin Barooah
Looks like Zoho gets it. This is not just about a particular branded service, it's about enabling new capabilities in the fabric of the web that any web application can exploit. - Robin Barooah
LANjackal
Lifehacker - FilesOverMiles Shares Files Browser-to-Browser without Limits (Sort of) - File Transfer - http://lifehacker.com/5272781...
Lifehacker - FilesOverMiles Shares Files Browser-to-Browser without Limits (Sort of) - File Transfer
"Web site FilesOverMiles shares files directly between your web browser and the person you want to share with, cutting out the web server as a middleman for instant, uncapped* peer-to-peer file sharing between two users. Using FilesOverMiles is simple. Like any other file-sharing site, you start by choosing the file you want to share. The difference is that rather than immediately starting to upload the file to a FilesOverMiles server, the webapp simply creates a unique, private URL that you give to the person you want to share the file with. Email or IM that link to the person of your choice, and when they visit that URL, their browser will immediately begin downloading the file directly from you. That also means an extra layer of privacy, since your important data will never end up on someone else's server." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
Jesse Stay
Google doesn't compete - they assimilate
The great thing about Wave is it doesn't really compete with anything (other than SMTP). It does force people that could be considered competition with Google, to use Wave to stay competitive. Google will be the back-bone of most of the web if they keep this up. They'll power Facebook, FriendFeed, and Twitter, along with Microsoft and the Enterprise. - Jesse Stay
I think Wave may win consumers, but I'm not so sure about enterprises. Or will there be private Wave-servers etc like there are mail servers. - Jemm
Jemm, Microsoft simply needs to make Exchange and sharepoint speak the Wave protocol. No need to create a new server. - Jesse Stay
Depends, how it's architecture can be modified to support it. If they ever support it (which I doubt), they'd probably brand it under Windows Live (which have "waves", too, as in versions, btw;). Most likely Microsoft comes with a competing real-time service that may or may not be compatible with the Google Wave. (Disclaimer: I'm strongly Microsoft-biased;) - Jemm
Jemm - yes, you can set up your own Wave server just like an SMTP server. The back end is meant to be like a real-time SMTP server from what I understand. - invariant
That's assuming you're using Wave as a product. Nothing's stopping anyone from creating their own products around the Wave protocols. Just like Sendmail speaks SMTP the same way Postfix speaks SMTP, and the same way Exchange can speak SMTP as well (if you set it to do so), you'll see many flavors of Wave protocol speaking services. - Jesse Stay from email
Very true Jesse - just hope no one uses that fact to try the old "embrace and extend" strategy. - invariant
If "someone" is still in business, surely they will try embrace and extend. But I hope people will be wise to that game by the time they do. - Nathaniel Thurston
With ODF Microsoft purposefully avoided EEE, but since ODF 1.1 is so weak specification, they didn't really need to modify the "standard" - just play by the rules. (And all the others embrace & extend it in non-standard ways, which is "good" for some reason). Let's hope Wave-protocol is executed better. - Jemm
Jemm - I was just going to mention ODF. They pretty much quashed a near-revolution in government circles by promising ODF support - then they pulled that malarky. So we are still susceptible. - invariant
The problem with document standards and protocols that have many players is that they have to be kept very simple (SMTP) with limited innovation for them to work. I doubt there ever will be fully supported, complex standard (html, odf/oxml) as all the players can't keep the same pace between themselves or the standard. If everybody supports everything identically, the software must have... more... - Jemm
invariant
First 'Sims 3' iPhone Gameplay Video - http://toucharcade.com/2009...
First 'Sims 3' iPhone Gameplay Video
Increasingly even casual gaming is becoming more in-depth and graphically intensive. If the iPhone offers everything the Pre and Android do, PLUS experiences like this, do the other platforms have a chance? - invariant from Bookmarklet
Robert Scoble
Google branches into expandable ads | Digital Media - CNET News - http://news.cnet.com/8301-10...
Google is adding more tools for advertisers and getting away from doing just text ads. Interesting! - Robert Scoble from Bookmarklet
Diversification is the way, these companies are now planning to increase revenue and reduce risk. Advantage is their bank account, already holding pile of money to invest in and fetch out returns, if done calculatedly. - Ali Sohani
Robert Scoble
CANOE -- Technology: 'Cloud computing' raises concerns as software, documents move online - http://technology.canoe.ca/2009...
I believe there are always trade-offs involved, and this is merely a transitional period of technology saga we are in, as soon as migration is going to end, technology in parallel will be addressing the coming issues continuously and will become mature and secure, as we know it happens all the time, during every adoption of change - Ali Sohani
Robert Scoble
Play with Photosynth Point Clouds | Sarah In Tampa | Channel 10 - http://on10.net/blogs...
Play with Photosynth Point Clouds | Sarah In Tampa | Channel 10
Photosynth is cool. - Robert Scoble from Bookmarklet
Photosynth is totally cool. I want to get a bunch of photographers in my area to converge on my city hall and snap a lot of photos for building a synth of it. - Chris Charabaruk
Mahdi Ebrahimi
10 Online Photo Editors That You Definitely Need to Bookmark - http://www.dailygyan.com/2008...
10 Online Photo Editors That You Definitely Need to Bookmark
10 Online Photo Editors That You Definitely Need to Bookmark
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Online image editors are in a rage these days. Everyday, you hear about the release of a new online photo editor that claims to be the next big thing. - Mahdi Ebrahimi from Bookmarklet
Nivi
Hewlett-Packard founder on management by objectives
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"The individuals works, partly to make money, of course, but we should also realize that the individual who is doing a worthwhile job is working because he *feels* he is accomplishing something worthwhile… Those people you work with that are working only for money are not making any real contribution. I want to emphasize then that people work to make a contribution and they do this best when trying to achieve and are able to use their own capabilities to the greatest extent. This is basic philosophy which we have discussed before—Management by Objective [http://bit.ly/14akZ} as compared to Management by Control." – David Packard, The HP Way, http://bit.ly/7jVJ - Nivi
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