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Douwe
Wave Keynote: worked. API Talk: done. Next: find a corner to collapse in.
EricaJoy
It seems like the same person is squatting on twitter.com/asus and twitter.com/lenovo. douche.
Though it's not scalable, I'd love to see Twitter (and FF) have zero mercy for squatters. You aren't substantively and relevantly using a particular account and someone has a better use for it? POOF! I realize this is highly subjective, but the perfect is the enemy of the good. - Adam Lasnik
I could swear I just read that bit about the perfect being the enemy of the good yesterday. ;-) - EricaJoy from IM
Define substantively and relevantly and better use :-). I kind of like the UDRP process ("The domain name registration is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or a service mark in which the complainant has rights; AND The registrant has no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the domain name; AND The domain name has been registered and is being used in bad faith."). - John μller
Tthe UDRP process is fine in theory but administered by private companies with a financial incentive to find in favor of the ones who chose which company to use, the Complaints. The arbitration companies compete on the basis of their published percentages, Complainants will always choose the one they believe will be more likely to roll over whatever rights the Respondents do have. - donnacha
Steve Rubel
Problems plague Google's GrandCentral - http://webworkerdaily.com/2009...
Problems plague Google's GrandCentral
Can anyone name a service (other than YouTube) that's really flourished after being acquired by Google? It really seems they must just be buying these companies for the talent. - Ken Sheppardson
I can't. Google kills projects as a pass time :-( - Richard A.
Blogger could be one that has worked out - BCK
Writely - Bwana ☠
Google Earth? / Keyhole - Shawn Farner
I love this service, im really hoping they continue development, any insider info? - Kyle Weller
Writely + XL2Web + TonicSystems -> Google Docs, Keyhole -> Google Earth/Maps, Urchin + MeasureMap -> Google Analytics, JotSpot -> Google Sites, Zingku -> Google FriendConnect, Android -> Android, DoubleClick -> DoubleClick, Feedburner -> AdSense for Feeds (in-process); sorry about Dodgeball. - Jeff
... and David Pogue's comment after the post gets it right -- a new version on new infrastructure will be coming soon. Apologies to anyone who has run into issues on the legacy version. - Jeff
BTW, for folks who don't know, the Jeff posting on this thread is Jeff Huber, SVP of Engineering @ Google. Very cool that Jeff is hanging out here, IMO. - Kevin Scott
Jeff: Will the new version be open source, ala Jaiku? ;-) [Thanks for the list, btw.] - Ken Sheppardson
Forgetting Feedburner? Typical. - Bjorn Stromberg
...or just not trying to give an exhaustive list. I was just asking for one, after all :-) - Ken Sheppardson
Great! And I use this for my local phone number here in Florida. My cell number is still from Kentucky. - tomit
@Jeff thanks for commenting, you have revived some long lost hope in Grandcentral ;) Any more news would be awesome, update the gc blog ;) - Kyle Weller
I'm like tomit. I use GC as my local number, as my cell number is still a Chicago area phone. - Adam C.
Thanks for stopping by here, Jeff. :) - Matt Cutts
It's great news that Grand Central is still alive; I use my GC number as my primary number, and I've been getting nervous not having heard anything from Google about it for so long. I'd love to see it integrated into GMail/Google Talk. - Chris Johnson
I still have to wonder why it took a post like mine to get Google folks talking about GrandCentral again. I don't want them to promise what they may not be able to deliver, but a post every now and then on the blog teasing what we may expect in the next version...and assuring those of us who count on the service that it's still viable would be nice. That folks have to read comments on blog posts and FriendFeed to get official word is ridiculous. - Judi Sohn
@Judi I wonder the same thing. Google wouldn't give away any state secrets by just saying, "Hang tight--we're still committed to Grand Central, and there's a new version somewhere on the horizon," especially as they were announcing the demise of some other services and people were getting antsy about Grand Central. - Chris Johnson
This article seems sensationalist. I'm seeing improvements in GC and can't wait to start paying for it. Their communication seems to be lacking for sure and my trust in Google will take a severe hit if this service were to falter (I don't think it will), but the conclusion of this article is plain silly. - coldbrew
Quite surprising to hear that Google keept a project like GrandCentral apparently deep sixed like this while performing a total overhaul on the infrastructure. - Samuel Bishop
@coldbrew, I really didn't mean it to be sensationalist. With absolutely no public word for nearly a year, and Google's history of ignoring their acquisitions to death, what else was I (or anyone else) to think? - Judi Sohn
Google does not care about a community. They just care about selling their ads. This is why what Google touches FAILS - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I use my GrandCentral every day and would personally love to have the contacts integrated with GMail for example. - Phil Yanov
Simon Stewart
Joining Friend Feed and Twitter in the same month? Sheeple-like or just good sense?
Crystal English
Going through the carwash never fails to amuse me. My bar for fun is really high.
Jenna Hutchsion
Jason Calacanis
however, Obama is NUTS if he gives one penny to failed automakers like GM. those companies NEED TO FAIL. give grants to Tesla!
agreed. - Carlos Ayala
Tesla won't get grants until they can show they already a workable plan for creating a 20k electric car. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
It'd be a great strategy to let tons of his constituents lose their jobs, right? - J T. Ramsay
If they fail, it would almost destroy the automotive industry in the U.S. The economy would be in much worse shape than it is now. - pcnerd37
I tend to agree, but I'm worried about the short and mid term economic damage it could cause. Is there such a thing as letting them fail gracefully? - Matt Pfefferle
Unfortunately I think that a collapse of the big three would be too sudden a shock to the system at a time when we can ill afford it - a million jobs lost would have a ripple effect that makes an already bad situation that much worse. The government shouldn't let that happen, but at the same time these companies need to be punished - I'd like to see a revival of anti-trust enforcement. Break the big three up into the medium thirty. Then the failure of any one won't matter nearly as much in the future. - Eric P
It's a tough call. The reprocussions of an allowed failure are much deeper than you may realize. When they collapse, they take entire associated industries with them—thousands upon thousands of jobs on a global scale. I'm not fore rewarding bad business practices like the auto industry big wigs any more than I wanted to see Wall St. scumbags and EvilCo Banks get billions to go on more... more... - Bob M. Montgomery from twhirl
This is a national security issue as much about the economy — check out Gen. Wes Clark's essay in the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2008... - Michael Pinto
Free market principles have failed. The bailout will happen. - Victor Ganata
When did the "free market" guarantee success, or eternal success? - ComicList
And when did it become the job of the federal government to bailout industries or companies? It's all absolute nonsense. - ComicList
Interesting statements, yet the Fed. Gov't gave the auto makers a bailout about 3 or 4 years ago and no one batted an eye then. - Admiral Anika
Obama will give them money for four reasons. 1. He doesn't want to be the president who lost the auto industry. 2. He owes the unions 3. He believes "smart" people like him can centrally plan the economy. 4. He truly believes govt. bailouts can save the economy - Steve Olson
I agree. However, I think he needs to do it to save the workers. Afterwards, he needs to bust some Corp and union ass. Force them to join the next century. - Charlie Wilson
Part of the problem is Tesla doesn't provide vehicles to the military as GM does. It would take years to replace them. - Steve Gillette from twhirl
Unions kinda did join the 21st C. by being beaten to a pulp in the 20th. Maybe it's time for unions to, um, fight back already? - J T. Ramsay
We should see it as opportunity. The money should have strings to force a greener industry and less dependency on carbon-based fuels. - Phil Boiarski
One of the prerequisites being floated in order to get a bailout from taxpayers is a major shakeup in management at GM. Perhaps reorganizing the top would create a much better company worthy of the bailout dollars? - Ryan Twomey
I would rather see our bankruptcy laws be adjusted for the current financial environment than have the federal government (politicians!) try to fix what may not be fixable with a bailout, strings attached or not. - scott anderson
I agree Jason, But PLEASE keep the Corvette alive! Maybe Tesla could buy the Corvette division and put an electric drivetrain in it. I'm too fat to fit in a Tesla if it is based on a Lotus Elise. - Tokyo Dan from twhirl
just wrote about that: http://blog. Stealthmode.com - Francine Hardaway
agreed. let them flop. - Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
They cant keep up with Toyota http://www.npr.org/news... look at the side by side comparison. We need the Tuckers of America to rise up. I want to see 25 new car companies that run Lean and innovate like crazy! - Christian Burns
If they do end up getting the aid, why not make it on condition that they use it to ramp up hybrid and electronic product lines... - Juho Tunkelo
I actually that idea of splitting the company up into its natural divisions. That strategy could be beneficial all around, boosting competition and innovation, reducing the effect of a failure by a small producer on the economy as a whole and ultimately providing better vehicles. Wonder if this sort of idea is anywhere near the table. - Bob M. Montgomery
letting 'em fail is not a solution at the moment. due to the lack of any kind of regulation in US industry and economy, you people of US created this very crisis cooperatively. now you have to cure that cancer without an amputation and make sure to get appropriate precautions to ensure it's not happening again soon... letting your ridiculously poor managed companies fail means giving them away to Chinese, Russian and Arabian dollar billionaires for free. do you really want this? - Berk D. Demir
that and you'll be able to sell your corvette for a pretty penny if you garage it for the next 50 years - Paul Stamatiou
i want my change to happen in 4 years: if they bail out auto-industry - i expect in 4 years auto-industry too: 90% of there fleet be non-gas, 90% of overseas work force back into USA = if not pay gov back money! - shayne catrett
Although... the general population can buy Chevy, Buick, Pontiac and Olds - not many can spring for a Tesla or many other 100K+ autos. Not that I care, personally - I don't like GM... I'm a Dodge fan. LoL - Ian Maffett
@ Shayne Well said. History shows (British Leyland) that mere subsidies are harmful. We should demand goals and targets, dates and benchmarks. - Phil Boiarski
@Phil: the govt. has done this with many things. most of those goals, targets, dates, and benchmarks are worthless for the most part. - Aaron Eaton
If they fail millions could loose their jobs. In places like Michigan there is no other industry for those workers to go to. - Matt Farina
@ Aaron, I guess it irks me that we heard none of this when spending 4 times as much on AIG, Wall Street Millionaires. Save the guys who helped sell Mortgage Backed Secuirties and got big bonuses for doing it. We can throw millions of Joe Sixpack out on the street but God foribid Godon Gekko not get his share. - Phil Boiarski
Jason, Tesla cars are way too expensive. I understand that you are in love with them, but that's because you can afford one. Give grants to car companies that want to promote 'green-friendly' cars and can afford to give us cheaper options. - Fleagle
The whole Eco/GreenOP is a scam since 70s. Companies like TeslaM [paypal perp! ] and Fisker/Quantum Technologies [who recently started to oppose TesM] only have a chance, if cybersheeple would confront radically WorldMedia on the use of Directed Energy Weapons vs. 9/11 TwinTowers. Good luck with the Brzezinski-BakerBoy-Oreo-Obama's and Hitlary Clinton, both predicted as winners many many months ago by VJ NicoHitler and oryanobamao8, see Hillary4u&me by RNN at video.google and faves from 911censored2 @YT ; - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Jenna Hutchsion
Have just discovered that @allen's uncle unfriended me on Facebook in the run-up to the election. I guess political views trump family ties.
Christina Kuhn
Bacon cooking is my favorite smell in the whole wide world. Second is coffee. Easy to see why I love mornings, eh?
Kevin Fox
Daily Kos: Prop 8: The legal challenges are beginning - http://www.dailykos.com/story...
Interesting... - Kevin Fox from Bookmarklet
At least lawyers will have a job to do in this otherwise tanking economy. - Victor Ganata
The constitution of California is supposed to protect the minorities against tyranny of the majority, not allow the majority to strip away rights they already have... unfortunately we'll be back in to fights, and there will be loud screams, about activist judges (from people that do not understand laws any more than they understand fairness and equality) if the judges act in in deciding that (wonders upon wonders) the majority of the people that voted do have to adhere to the law of the land. - David HC Soul
Starring the always-feisty Dennis Herrera - j1m
"If the voters approved an initiative that took the right to free speech away from women, but not from men, everyone would agree that such a measure conflicts with the basic ideals of equality enshrined in our constitution" - j1m
Frankly, I'd rather get the insanely stupid "50% to amend the constitution" rule fixed before anything else. - Adam Lasnik
Kevin Fox
Wow these guys are fast! Voter- and EV-scaled maps of last night's presidential election. [hat tip to Stephen Mack!] - Kevin Fox from Bookmarklet
The first map looks like a phoenix to me. - Rachel Lea Fox
…or a pigeon slaughtered mid-flight, inappropriately. - John Lam
Again supporting the theory that proximity to oceans and/or large population centers breeds democratic party members. - Bill Strathearn
I <3 Mark Newman. - Clare Dibble
I second Clare. In addition to making cool maps, he plays some mean piano - http://thejcats.com - Robert Felty
@Bill - I think this makes sense. The democratic platform tends to favor public projects like education and mass transit, which make more sense in densely populated areas. - Robert Felty
education makes less sense in the country? - j1m
also, health care, another unnecessary item in rural areas. - ⓞnor
Public transportation makes less sense in rural areas. I should have come up with some better examples. A few others: sewer systems, curb-side recycling. Fortunately though, we have different levels of government, which helps eliminate some of these problems. - Robert Felty
Jeremy Zawodny
Palin spent more on clothes than previously reported, McCain aides furious at her ‘outrageous profligacy.’ - http://thinkprogress.org/2008...
I'm sure she was just trying to stimulate the economy... - Jeremy Zawodny
I am overjoyed to say that I don't care one whit about Sarah Palin today. Have fun in Alaska reachin' across all those bridges you've now burned. - Carla Thompson
Obama spent over $700,000 in campaign money on stage lights in Berlin. What's a bigger waste of money? - Spencer
Nice. "One senior aide said that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential nominee began buying for herself and her family — clothes and accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus. According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the clothes were bought by a wealthy... more... - Paul Buchheit
Well, it was pretty clear John and Sarah didn't get along when you saw them up there at the end of his concession speech. Can you say icy? - AJ Kohn
Spencer: that $700,000 was for the stage, lights, sound, etc. Large productions require lots of staff and equipment, so they're expensive. Palin just went on a massive shopping spree. And the biggest reason people are complaining is because the Republicans mocked Edwards's $400 haircut in the last campaign. - Gabe
What Palin allegedly did was wrong but come on anyone that pays $400 for a haircut deserves what ever anyone said about him. Besides I don't think that was the only trim he was getting - gfurry
Details about the $400 haircut(s!): http://www.slate.com/id... - Stephen Foskett
Can we get over the stupid things both sides have done this last election and move on?!? You know, post-partisan, post-racial, post-sexist and all that? - Robert Worstell
She was trying to stimulate something... - Gautam Guliani
Mike Yang
In an otherwise amazing evening, I'm in disbelief that California is on track to give rights to chickens but take them away from gay couples.
Roshan Vyas
"A majority of Californian voters just granted new fundamental civil rights to egg-laying chickens while stripping fundamental civil rights away from loving gay and lesbian human beings."
Yes, because they're worried their innocent children might be influenced to become gay, but it's less likely they'd be swayed towards becoming chickens. Or something like that. - Adam Lasnik
Christopher Sacca
"I couldn't be happier to take part in the ongoing dismantling of my race's dominance." -- www.someecards.com
Christopher Sacca
Just knocked on my last door of this election. The 91 year-old woman who answered didn't say a word. She just gave me a big hug. I lost it.
Great work, Chris! - Ruchira S. Datta
I'm losing it thinking about you losing it. - Brian Sacca
That is totally awesome! - Mike Gionfriddo from twhirl
Rachel Lea Fox
The "I Voted" Meme
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And Boo votes for being adopted by a good home soon! - Rachel Lea Fox
Boo is a cutie! - Ragani Harris
You need a kitty Ragani? He is a super sweet little boy! If we didn't have our permanent cat quota full I would keep him. - Rachel Lea Fox
Fail at image posting. :) Or did you take the photo in a mirror? - Ken Gidley
I'm guessing Rachel didn't choose the "Auto Flip New Photos" option in Photo Booth. - Benjamin Golub
Oh, I didn't know that photo booth had an auto flip. - Rachel Lea Fox
!oot amabO rof detov I - Cyrus Lendvay
!emosewA er'uoy suryC - Rachel Lea Fox
Boo emailed me that he really really loves the neighbors of his current foster parents. - Lyndsey McGrath
Conspiracy!!!!!!! :) - Cyrus Lendvay
Robert Scoble
Your a good man Scoble-Brown. - CW™
ایول رابرت , شیره هر کی بهش رای دادی :دی - Mil∂d
whoops, missed a bit of the square. VOID - Andrew Smith
I took the same pic (with the same candidate) and uploaded it to facebook. Just received an anonymous email telling me it's illegal to take a picture of your ballot. WTF? - shaun mclane
yes, in most states it is illegal... why? I don't know for sure... but they take the privacy of the booth very seriously - Shawn Duffy from twhirl
It is illegal and will be posted on the wall before you enter. - Richard Gallo
Driving 69mph on the freeway is illegal too. Sue me. :-) - Robert Scoble
Good to be so forthcoming to share that, surprised that it is so secret when the elections are so public. - Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
It may be illegal in some places, but I am sure it's not illegal to take a pic of your sample ballot filled in. - April Russo (app103)
obama ftw! respect Robert! - Apostolos Papadopoulos
it's not illegal to photograph your ballot. that's nonsense. I photo'd mine and uploaded to Flickr. - Karoli
I believe in some jurisdictions it's illegal to take photos at the polling place, as it has implications RE intimidation, tampering, etc. Photographing your individual ballot however? Eh. - Ken Sheppardson
You drive 69 out here Robert and you get passed, 75 on many of our freeways :) - Bob Schwartz
in italy is highly illegal (immediate arrest) - Danilo Paissan
might give some punks a reason to invalidate your ballot. THAT would be hilarity - Daniel Morgan
If I pay you to vote for me you cannot prove you did, but now that cell phones have camera we can easily get proof of how you voted. That is why it's illegal to photograph your ballot. - Bob Gannon
Kevin Fox
Admiral Nimitz on protecting our rights - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Admiral Nimitz on protecting our rights
"This was on the wall in the elementary school Multipurpose Room where I voted today: 16 May 1958 Dear Sixth Graders of Chester W. Nimitz School: On the eve of your graduation I send you greetings, congratulations and best wishes for happiness and success in the next step in your education. A basic responsibility of all American citizens is the safeguarding of the freedoms won by the... more... - Rachel Lea Fox
My mom remembers seeing him water the roses in front of his house on YBI - he was nice to all the kids who came by. :) - Karen
Was there trick or treating on the island? Or did they all go over to the base on Treasure Island? - Kevin Fox
Wow - I really, really like that. +++++ - Internet's Tad
Jason Shellen
How would I like to settle my bill? I'm sorry, I was told that this steak and lobster would be taken care of with my 'Yes, I voted' sticker.
Jenna Hutchsion
[Followup] French-Canadian pranksters explain how they managed to get Palin on the line: It was brutally easy and usually they only get to use 30% of the jokes they wrote before people smarten up. In this instance, they ran out of jokes - http://forums.fark.com/cgi...
Jenna Hutchsion
[Amusing] John McCain's opening skit from Saturday Night Live -- jokes about lack of money and Palin "goin' rogue" - http://forums.fark.com/cgi...
Jenna Hutchsion
Am experimenting with Friendfeed automatically updating my tweets. So far, working well.
Paul Buchheit
Wow. I can't believe she didn't figure it out after he started talking about hunting and Dick Cheney and how he loves killing things. - Jess Lee
N.S: "My wife Carla is a popular singer, and a former hot top model, and she so hot in bed (...)" S.P: "Oh my Godness, I didn't know that!" - Jérôme Flipo
Here the documentary Sarkozy references to: http://hustler.com/mansion1 (NSFW!) - Jérôme Flipo
If one voice can change the world for Obama, one Viagra can change the world for McCain! - Andrew Trinh
I'm not sure if he said "From my ass I can see Belgium" or "From my house I can see Belgium". - Jess Lee
I agree Chris. I don't think it was that funny. Sal or Richard from the Stern show could have done a better job. - PC Easy from twhirl
I still can't believe this is real. I mean, she must have figured it out... she can't be that stupid... can she? - Tudor Bosman
It's definitely real, her camp issued a statement in response today. "Governor Palin received a phone call on Saturday from a French Canadian talk show host claiming to be French President Nicholas Sarkozy. Governor Palin was mildly amused to learn that she had joined the ranks of heads of state, including President Sarkozy, and other celebrities in being targeted by these pranksters. C'est la vie." - Vincent X
It was just taken down from youtube. I wonder what the reasoning for that was. - Robin Barooah
Still works for me. - Vincent X
interesting - it's back up - Robin Barooah
This is filled with wow... - Anthony K. Valley ©
that was epic - imabonehead
it's all over youtube if this one is down: http://www.youtube.com/results... - Robert Stevens
"Special American advisor - Johnny Hallyday". ROFL - Paul Grav
Boy would I like to hear these audio tapes. I bet they're a hoot: "Starting with persistent phone calls to Alaska, [Marc-Antoine] Audette said it took the duo -- which also includes Sebastien Trudel -- about four days of phone calls to Palin's handlers to finally get in touch with her." http://www.ctv.ca/servlet... - Robert Stevens
Ahhh those stupid guys (Justiers Masqués) pranked also alot of other people. I'm from Montreal, and I listen to them once in a while. This prank is very well timed. It's a good one for them! :-) - Éric Senterre
"From my house I can see Belgian too." - Mai
Thank god for comedy. - Will Higgins™
Lol just watched this from my g1, wish frienfeed had a g1 iface - Kyle Weller
amazing!!!!! *loool* - Dieter Schwarz
There were a couple of funny moments in there as well, where they mixed languages in a slightly tricky way. When talking about hunting, they said something like "we could tue some baby phoques" (kill some baby seals). Then later he says that his wife Carla wrote a song for her called [something I couldn't quite follow about "rouge a lèvres sur un cochon" (lipstick on a pig)], which he then translates as [something about Joe the plumber]. - Joel Webber
And the bit about her "edgy" documentary "Nailin' Pailin"? Classic! - Joel Webber
I am so glad I'm not a public figure. I do see what they mean about her cutesy-pootsyness. It's adora-borable, yes it is! The sad thing is I wouldn't have done nearly as well in that conversation. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Christopher Sacca
After watching the movie "W." I guess I'm surprised the UN hasn't passed a resolution to invade us.
Simon
Computer gets within 5% of passing the Turing test - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1...
Computer gets within 5% of passing the Turing test
"One robot, Elbot, came close on Sunday by reaching 5% below the pass mark. No robot has ever passed the Turing Test, which requires the robot to fool 30% of its human interrogators." - Simon from Bookmarklet
http://www.elbot.com/ (I don't think it's the full competition version.) - Simon
I tried out elbot, and he seemed very much like a robot. - Gabe
I thought he was more like a politician, very evasive. - Philipp Lenssen
He is very evasive! Also, don't lie to him the first time you tell him your name... He still thinks I'm Brian.... - Ross Miller
He keeps talking about being a maverick too... - Jim Norris
lol Jim. "but the dead giveaway was when I asked it about the border between Iraq and Afghanistan, and the reply said there was no such border. that's how i knew it was a computer!" - Karim
"within 5%" sounds impressive. "fooled 3 out of 12 judges" less so. - Karim
Q: "so who's going to win the election?" A: "Politics are nothing more than a multidimensional nonlinear problem of optimization. They should let the robots take over. Things would run with much more precision." <-- OMG IT'S AL GORE!!!! - Karim
Jenna Hutchsion
Retweet from @allen A vote for Prop 8 is a vote for bigotry. Vote no on Prop 8. http://www.eqca.org/site...
Christopher Sacca
Agreed to my second speech on behalf of Obama. First in Spokane, second in Portland. Notice they send me to the not-so-battleground states.
They're just warming you up. :) - EricaJoy
Christopher Sacca
Why Is America So Religious? - By the Numbers Blog - NYTimes.com - http://blow.blogs.nytimes.com/2008...
Why Is America So Religious? - By the Numbers Blog - NYTimes.com
"“The clear exception to this pattern is the United States, which is a much more religious country than its degree of prosperity would suggest. Despite its wealth, the United States is in the middle of the global pack when it comes to the importance of religion. Indeed, on this question, the U.S. is closer to considerably less developed nations such as India, Brazil and Lebanon than to other western nations.”" - Christopher Sacca from Bookmarklet
It's interesting data. I just took a quick look, so I could be half-cocked, but I think the methodology for that one particular graph is somewhat problematic. It measures importance of religion by asking people how important they think religion is -- self-reporting. Also, in the "advanced" countries, polling was done over the phone, but was face-to-face in the "developing" countries. In the U.S. -- this should be of interest to you -- the poll excluded cell phones. Imagine how this might skew U.S. results. - Chester
@Chester I see you praying into your cell phone all of the time... - Christopher Sacca
America is religious when necessary. In a word, hypocrisy. - jcunwired
Not arguing with the general conclusion of the study, as it intuitively seems to make sense. But it's not as rigorous as it could be. And the general conclusions are also problematic because, while Japan -- for example -- may not be "religious", there are strong "traditional values" that may mirror some impacts of religion. Consider, for example, extremely restrictive/xenophobic Japanese citizenship policies... - Chester
Mhm... Spain ranks low in importance of religion? and that close to France? something's wrong with that data, at least from what I've experienced living and traveling around here for the past year. - Juan Pablo González
Chris: The body position of someone perpetually tapping into his iPhone is an almost comical approximation of someone clasping hands in prayer. And the study really is problematic...especially for you, given your recent highlighting of landline-only polling. And there's no detail on the time of day they called. Imagine they only polled Americans who own landlines and are home during business hours. Given the study's own findings regarding a gender gap in "belief", that's a problem. - Chester
I know it's impossible to collect the data now, but I'd love to see this as trends over time. Is the US disproportionately religious because of it's relative youth? I wonder if nation age is a factor as well as prosperity. - mikepk
I also wonder if the states were considered independently, how would the data look. - mikepk
Michael: 1) The US isn't particularly "young". 2) The study finds that lower age correlates with lower importance of religion. 3) In the study, there are very "young" countries that are very religious: India and Indonesia, for example. 4) Conversely, despite older populations, Germany and Japan are, supposedly, very non-religious. - Chester
Chester, I didn't mean age of the population, I meant time of existence of the country as an entity. The US being only 230 years old as compared to some of those European nations. I was wondering if history + prosperity = less religiosity. - mikepk
I think trying to express memes like religion with a simplistic equation is quite impossible. We can find any desired correlation between any two parameters by polling appropriate audiences. - Shivanand Velmurugan
Which of these countries have a state church and state-owned economies? I'd expect that a state church would be less efficient, less competitive, etc. than privately owned churches, and thus less effective at keeping people religious. If the church is run by the state but businesses are private, then businesses will outcompete the church. But if the church and businesses are both state-run, or if the church and businesses are both privately run, then the church doesn't have the same disadvantage. - Amit Patel
Michael: Ah, I see now. Well...if history + prosperity = less religiosity, then Australia would be closer to the USA than to the UK. I agree with Shivanand -- that the very idea of "religion", as well as what it means for religion to be "important" to oneself, is far too complicated to be sufficiently and accurately gauged through a single variable, self-reported question. - Chester
One possible explanation: "Americans have the highest income inequality in the rich world..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.... If there are a large number of poor people, and lack of prosperity increases religion then there would appear to be a link there. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Nick Lothian
Nick: Data doesn't bear that out, either. Great Britain and Australia have significantly higher Gini coefficients than, say, Germany, which rates much higher in the study's religiosity data. Again: before trying to base conclusions off the data in this study, try examining the methodology of the study itself. The one in question was devised in a way that undermines its validity. - Chester
@Chester - I think that the data does bear that out. I hesitated in including the Gini coefficients link because it isn't obvious how significant a 10% difference is. Australia is around 35, the UK around 36, and the US around 47. That really is a significant different. Gini has to be looked at along side average income or purchasing power, too. - Nick Lothian
@Chester - what problem do you see in the methodology? - Nick Lothian
Nick: Comparing AUS/UK vs. the US, inequality correlates with religiousness. But with AUS/UK vs. Germany, there's negative correlation. And how is one to square Indonesia and Poland being between AUS/UK and France in Gini coeff. but being super-crazy-religious? As for methodological problems, I list a bunch in previous comments. Beyond issues of methodology, what does it mean to for "religion" to be "important in one's life" in these different countries, respectively? Does that mean the same, globally? - Chester
WRT Indonesia vs Poland, as I mentioned you need to look at absolute average income or purchasing power, too. Indonesia is a much poorer country. I do agree that there are problems with the income inequality argument, though. I disagree that there is a major methodological problem, though. Look at the "How often do you pray" question - there's a good correlation between that and the importance of religion answers. - Nick Lothian
Ah, my mistake. Still...how do you account for the Germany outlier? And with "how often do you pray" and religiousness questions...did they even ask them in China (maybe they couldn't)? I think, for your hypothesis, what you need is time series data -- i.e. annual data Eastern Bloc countries as they become more affluent or Japan between the 80s boom and late 90s lows. Then you'll see how wealth/distribution might interact with religion. But the study in question was not really concerned with that topic... - Chester
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