succinct Allen, don't believe these are addressable in a simple fashion and as such FF stays as a "super early adopter" tool, but mainstream, eh no way - Bob Sonin

And as an early adopter tool, it is providing a good framework to start from, but agree with Bob, certainly not ready for mainstream. - James Fridley

Some good points, some of which I've noticed myself (the twitter / FF crosstalk particularly). I don't see a particularly good solution to any of them due to the architecture of the pieces involved. I'm not sure I agree with the desire for organization tools for FriendFeed, but that reflects my personal bias against making me "work" for content. I like gmail because I no longer have to categorize and organize my mail, instead depending on search. - mikepk

The solution on this is going to be when FriendFeed is consolidated with Twitter. The way the economy is going these types of consolidations are going to be happening sooner than we otherwise would have thought. - Wayne Schulz

Apart from Robert and Louis the conversation is weak. The rate of commentary and participation is diminishing at ~10% / month... it needs to be going the other way - Bob Sonin

So Bob, how do you think that gets solved? - Louis Gray

Louis: i need the ability to more easily shove stuff into rooms. I can't put RSS feeds in there. Twitter search RSS feeds aren't working again and I can't build a search query here and shove stuff into rooms. Rooms are the secret to friendfeed's success because we can keep conversations small. - Robert Scoble

Also, pros need to be able to make money here. Right now pros are being forced to spend time on their blogs and not participating here. Why? Because someone like Huffington or Techcrunch will get paid for building page views on their blogs, but not in spending time here. It is the pros that keep things interesting -- I'm under the same pressures, by the way, I've just been ignoring them. - Robert Scoble

Bob: you can put feeds in rooms now can't you? I've got a couple of rooms setup with feeds going into them - Glenn Slaven

I do like the idea of achiving ghost users, the talking to noone issue can be a problem. Although having said that I have seen good discussions come out of such posts. Not involving the author obviously, but others around it. - Glenn Slaven

Glenn: I just opened a new room and tried shoving a feed from http://search.twitter.com into it and it rejected the feed. Also, you can not do a feed in friendfeed (from say a search term) and add that into a room. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I just added the twitter search for the #Australia hash tag into the Australia room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... worked out fine. It's true you can't include a FF search feed in a room, not sure whether than's an oversight or a deliberate exclusion - Glenn Slaven

Louis, I don't think it needs to be solved, it's a niche market/audience around promotion of ideas/thoughts/products and that's fine, it isn't a mainstream service; they will need to work out how to keep Robert et al happy or else there won't be much participation as it begins to negatively impact personal earning power - Bob Sonin

++ BCK there is an early adopter elite that stroke each other's egos but little of substance discussed - eg cats, gadgets, babies trump gaza holocaust and other real life issues - twitter actually has much more intelligent interaction in 140 with excellent exchange of info. - ernie yacub

ernie: you got to be kidding me. I'm watching tens of thousands of tweets and 99.999999999% of tweets are totally lame. Want me to give you some examples? Heck, just on my screen now "early flight Monday." Yeah, really intelligent! - Robert Scoble

"Interaction" on Twitter? Twitter is a megaphone medium and nothing but. FF is where conversation is at. Most people who are complaining about lack of value on FF haven't discovered views or how to manage their feed properly. - Mo Kargas

Try taking the FF search feed url, dumping it into Y! Pipes, possibly combining or filtering, and bring the Pipe back into FF. - coldbrew

wow coldbrew - why don't we all just spend all day working on ff :) - Allen Stern

Would like to see a feature to follow particular parts of subscribed feeds, ie. options to choose not to view Flickr feed from a particular user. - Chris Frost

Commented on your blog Allen - for a reason :) - Charlie Anzman

thank you charlie :) - Allen Stern

Very nice post. The loneliness of early adopters versus mainstream masses .. and a huge gap between them! - Jan Horna

I do have some yahoo pipes pulling in data, it was the only way to manipulate and shape data into FF funnel!! - Susan Beebe

Robert: i think you may have a noise to signal problem. - ernie yacub