Hey guys! Thanks for the post Louis. I just finally decided yesterday to put it on hacker-news for some feedback, didn't expect anyone to pick it up, but then again, you are the guy who detected Toluu traffic from your logs :)
- Caleb Elston
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- David Slattery
Love the kids at a soccer game analogy about the tech press! Louis you are truly transparent - I couldn't go as far as you do, though I understand the sentiment behind it. I mean, do I really want people knowing if I end up needing to buy some Preparation H or something like that .,..?
- Laura Norvig
More specifically, if Site A and Site B are on an "Open Graph", they should be able to work without Hub site X in the middle. If any transaction between A and B requires X to be an intermediary, it effectively means X owns the graph, and it's not open. The only way any kind of network graph can be "open" is if it is federated.
- Ray Cromwell
Open Graph protocol isn't stopping anyone else to adopt it and allow multiple sites to revolve around hub site X. Don't buy what Google employees are telling you.
- Jesse Stay
The part about the metadata is trivial and insufficient, but federated, yes, however the protocol does not standardize action vocabulary, so inevitably, this will be filled with proprietary links back to FB services (e.g. the Like button) How can Site A publish a 'Like' to an arbitrary Hub so that Site B may discover that 'Like'? That's my point. The RDFa metadata alone is practically useless and redundant if you consider that most of the time it duplicates existing info (Page title, FavIcon, etc)
- Ray Cromwell
Reformed, it's coming later today. Ray, it works perfectly for any site that wants to implement a Pages-like product. It's still open and federated - there is just no one else that has anything like that. If you wanted to, you could create one any time though and it would work with any site that implements this protocol.
- Jesse Stay
Without a standard spec and something that addresses the discoverability problem, you'd end up with a menagerie of "Like" buttons in a site (one for each hub), and no ability for crosshub sharing. It also preserves the walled garden around user networks, which is the real thing that needs to be opened. The way I envision it, if I 'Like' a site, I should be able to publish the like to...
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- Ray Cromwell
Jesse - this is the smartness of Jobs - he has gone after those with lots of disposable income - it's something the other manufacturers haven't done. I bet all these people buying one today will buy another with 3g in a month - just watch.
- Allen Stern
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