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Jessica woke up and my car was gone! the city had towed it one block over on account of a 'snow emergency.' wow, there wasn't AN OUNCE OF SNOW LAST NIGHT and the roads were clear. also, i'm the only car out of 15 that got moved. does the city of madison just want MONEY? AND i also missed a class finding my car.
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The World Wide Wide Wide Wide Web - http://thomashawk.com/2010...
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"The website at thomashawk.com contains elements from the site thomashawk.com, which appears to host malware – software that can hurt your computer or otherwise operate without your consent." Whaaaaaat?
- EricaJoy
i got the same warning. Whats up Thomas
- Roberto Bonini
Hey so apparently this is related to a hack that happened to my blog a few weeks ago that Aaron Brazell was able to clean up and fix for me. It was a pain in the ass. He said that the problem now though is that Google has my blog/stylesheet blocked because they still think it's malicious(?) It should be fine now though and Aaron says that the Google block should go away in 90 days, but...
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- Thomas Hawk
Hi Thomas, there's still some hacked content on your site -- check out http://web-sniffer.net/... or http://web-sniffer.net/...
- John Mueller
Your blog uses content from those folders, so users who use a browser with the SafeBrowsing-API will see the malware warning. Once you've removed the bad stuff (*do it now!* :-)), you can request a malware review in your Webmaster Tools account. It'll generally get processed within a few days (usually hours) and the label will be removed. You can find out more about that process at http://www.google.com/support...
- John Mueller
... and finally, try to figure out how they were able to hack your site so that you can be sure that any security holes are plugged properly :-). Good luck!
- John Mueller
thanks John. Will keep trying to fix it.
- Thomas Hawk
Excellent post Thomas. Where do you spend you FF time now that you aren't posting current events like did last year? I spend more time on FB following my IRL friends now.
- Russellreno
Russell, spending most of my time in DMU on Flickr these days. A vibrant intimate community of photographers and non-photographers even. I'm pretty involved there and post every day. All are welcome. http://www.flickr.com/groups...
- Thomas Hawk
thanks for the advice John, I think I got it cleaned out and resubmitted my blog using Google's webmaster tools. Hopefully things are looking better.
- Thomas Hawk
Keep us updated of the progress!
- TrafficBug
It looks like it went through :-) -- I don't see the malware warning anymore. Thanks for fixing it! It sounds like it took (apparently) less than 12 hours from your review request to the malware tag being removed :-).
- John Mueller
GREAT! John, thank you so much for your helpful advice.
- Thomas Hawk
The Canon 5D M2's so called "Integrated Dust Cleaning System" sucks ass. How many more years until we have anti dust tech that works?
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I don't know, but I was missing your camera equipment posts.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
At shooting at 15th and 19th in east Oakland, lots of cops and police tape.
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YHOO earnings in line with expectations 11 cents per share.
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Jealousy - http://thomashawk.com/2010...
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I Wish For You, Plate 2 - http://thomashawk.com/2010...
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When a Canon Boy Falls for a Nikon Girl - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Should csratr allow blank strings? Seems like a sanity check for empty fields would work wonders. Translation: empty comments aren't valid, why allow them?
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Listen to DJ Mo
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it's free :-)
- Mo Tabesh
nice!
- Thomas Hawk
Koop - Koop Island Blues http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
Bruce Springsteen - Devils and dust http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
Led Zeppelin - Dazed and Confused http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
when the levie breaks is my favorite, had it on the headphones when my mom busted me cleaning the columbian of seeds on the LP at 16
- Wendy Martyn
Led Zeppelin - When the levee breaks http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
oh my god deja'vu Mo ;-}
- Wendy Martyn
Guns N' Roses - November Rain http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
Interesting...I too have dug up my Led in the past month... been listening to alll my favorites but "good Times Bad times" always kicks it off...
- Tioga Pass
November Rain. Love that one.
- Thomas Hawk
Men at work - Land down under http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
yay DJ Mo is live on FF!!
- charlotte
:-)
- Mo Tabesh
Mo, play some Roxy Music - something slow and sexy. (damn, do i sound like a girl?)
- johnny action
here's a canadian sweetheart for you johnny: Feist - 1 2 3 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
there is only one slow and sexy roxy music track... http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- charlotte
Feist - Inside and Out http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch... there was a time, not too long ago, when i would have killed to be bryan ferry in this video, white tuxedo and all.
- johnny action
he's a class act that Bryan Ferry
- charlotte
I'm going to invite my dad to this thread.
- Chris Nixon
from iPhone
ha ha ha
- Mo Tabesh
Koop - Come to me http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
ok, chris, you wet-behind-the-ears punk, here's something you'll appreciate (from 2007, FFS!) Maybe even your dad. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- johnny action
http://www.youtube.com/watch... road trip!
- charlotte
did I not post??? FFS
- Jakey
epic: Guns N' Roses - Welcome To The Jungle http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
canadian sweetheart ... Feist - One Evening http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
oh, I like Feist.
- Thomas Hawk
Debbie Gibson: Electric Youth- http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Tioga Pass
Tiffany - I Think We're Alone Now - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Tioga Pass
Ms. John Soda -- Hands http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Thomas Hawk
Lies - Thompson Twins - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Tioga Pass
Jackie Green: Honey I've been thinking about you - http://drop.io/brokent...
- Thomas Hawk
Radiohead - Paranoid Android - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Tioga Pass
Duran Duran - Girls On Film -http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Tioga Pass
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Art Star http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Almond Butterscotch
DJ Shadow - Midnight In A Perfect World http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- charlotte
Marvin Gaye - Inner City Blues http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- charlotte
Owl City: Vanilla Twilight http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Thomas Hawk
Iron and Wine, Each Coming Night. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Thomas Hawk
bmup
- Thomas Hawk
Balloon Boy remix of I'm on a Boat: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Almond Butterscotch
Diana Krall - All or Nothing at All http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mo Tabesh
All the things you are - Serge Gainsbourg http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- charlotte
All India Radio - Solstice http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- charlotte
The American Dollar - Anything You Synthesize http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- charlotte
bump
- charlotte
bump? hmmm ... only i can bump this? so i am DJ for life?!
- Mo Tabesh
nope- even your bump didnt cut it.
- Almond Butterscotch
yes it did. it's on top again. load your music!
- Mo Tabesh
Eric Clapton with John Mayer... http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- JediPein
Mo thanks for bumpin', you are DJ for life, you must bump everyday.
- charlotte
Keren Ann - Lay your head down...........http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ventri
Alone in Kyoto AIR - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- charlotte
a forest - the cure, acoustica http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- charlotte
Just quit about 20 groups on flickr. That felt good. More to quit tomorrow.
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That's what she said!
- tabbr
cathartic, eh?
- Jess Dennis
yep. for sure.
- Thomas Hawk
I've been doing the same. Have you noticed how many of the bigger groups have moved their forums away from Flickr?
- Chris Nixon
Chris Nixon - Can you give us some examples? & Where have they moved them?
- Stephanie Keating
Your Photo Tips has moved to http://www.exposurecommunity.com/
- Chris Nixon
TWIP have moved to their own forum.
- Chris Nixon
There were a few others too, but as I've quit the groups it's difficult to list.
- Chris Nixon
s busy forum can pay for its own in ad revenues, rther than just being promoting lethargic flickr
- Ricardo Liberato
You've quit more groups than I've ever been in. Congrats! ^_^
- Almond Butterscotch
it's good to quit them. I never participated in most of them and many were just things I'd been invited to that I joined at one point or another.
- Thomas Hawk
I need to do that too.. hell I'm admin of 38 groups or so???
- Jakey
i wonder how many group therrr admins ;-}
- Mo Tabesh
Good to cut a little more flickr out of my life.
- Thomas Hawk
TH: you're quitting groups... are you also done posting to Flickr (aside from the "blog related" posts)? Or just taking a break? It's been a while since you've uploaded your daily 40+ shots...
- boscbo
No, I'm still going to post images to flickr. I'm just not going to engage in community there in forums. I hate feeling like every day could be the day that they nuke my account without warning. By dropping the forums on Flickr from my life I have less of a liklihood that they can vindictively nuke my flickrstream for something I might say over there in a forum. The flickr TOS/CG is so...
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- Thomas Hawk
Dropped a few group memberships also, as I think TH has the right idea. The "other" DMU was the first one to go... I just don't enjoy the drama at all.
- Scott Coulter
Whenever a group is nuked either by admins or Flickr staff it always creates chaos. It's harmful for community and creates unnecessary drama.
- Thomas Hawk
There is a greasemonkey script I think.
- Thomas Hawk
I recently returned to flickr after a two year absence since the censorship of German flickr users. The site feels not the same anymore. It still is nice for photo sharing, but there can be no trust anymore, especially facing the ongoing unbelivable behaviour of flickr staff towards paying customers. I now use it merely as a secondary place for the occasional and cursory exchange. My content is safe on my own server.
- Ulrich Hilger
Mathew- Check out this GM script: http://userscripts.org/scripts.... It doesn't allow you to mass quit, but it's definitely easier than going to each individual group page and quitting. I quit about 200 groups yesterday using this script. Took about 15 minutes.
- Chris Martino
I need to too. I'm a member of over 600 groups.
- Nick Humphries
anybody got a script to erase faves, I'm going for the bare bones, I've got 5 groups now
- Wendy Martyn
Just sent my 135 f/2 lens back to Canon. This will be the fourth time it's been in for repair for the same autofocus problem. This is getting expensive.
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Dang, I remember when you had sent it back the third time. I don't think I've heard of anyone having as many problems with this lens as you have. The heck are you doing to it? =)
- ronin
I think I'm just using it a lot. But it should hold up better than it has in my opinion. It just won't autofocus. I think it's the focus ring because it doesn't manual focus either. It's my favorite lens and I use it to shoot with probably 80% of the time. Hopefully it comes back quick. I may also just have a lemon of a lens. You never know.
- Thomas Hawk
Maybe they should just replace it with a better copy.
- John (bird whisperer)
That would be nice John. We'll see. I doubt they do that. I think they like being repaid over and over again to repair it.
- Thomas Hawk
I wonder if mine has issues, what happens?
- Paula W
for the first year it should be under warranty Paula. But after that it's not. I'd watch it. If you are having any trouble at all close to the end of the first year of ownership you might want to think about sending it in. It costs about $175 every time I have to have it repaired.
- Thomas Hawk
You've almost doubled what you paid for it in the first place, right? That's gotta hurt.
- Almond Butterscotch
I sent my 50 1.4 in because the focus stopped working. It works now, but it's not like it was. The ring is sticky, and it doesn't focus as fast. When it dies again, I'm just going to replace it. And take the old one apart.
- Jeremy Brooks
Well damn. I'm finally getting this lens in a couple of weeks. Hopefully yours is an isolated event - never heard of this happening.
- Blake Caldwell
get a Nikon - they just work...wait a sec, maybe that's a Mac...uh...never mind
- johnny action
Blake, it's the best lens I've every used. Even with it's horrible repair record I'm not disappointed I bought it.
- Thomas Hawk
I loved that lens when I rented it. It would really suck to have to send it in multiple times for repair.
- Jordan Hofker
Woot, thx Thomas - again, can't wait.
- Blake Caldwell
Thomas do you find you have to step back when trying to frame shots with the 135 ? I guess you are used to the focal length now so probably change lenses if you want something wider/closer ?
- David Pascoe
My leica lenses never had autofocus issues.
- Ricardo Liberato
David, exactly, I've got a 14mm, 24mm, 50mm, 100mm macro, and my 135 that are with me whenever I'm shooting. Lots of lens switching but mostly I shoot the 135. Zooming with your feet though is one hassle of primes over zooms and is not always possible.
- Thomas Hawk
Autofocus is your friend dear Liber, remember that.
- Thomas Hawk
my canon 28-135mm hasn't auto focused for about 6 months now. out of warranty. is that what they basically charged you every time you sent it in?
- bluetick
yeah, about that. Manual focus wouldn't work either on my 135 f/2.
- Thomas Hawk
my favorite lens as well, hope you get your fixed
- tomms
th, you ever use a 1.4x extender with the 135mm? would you recommend it?
- tabbr
yeah, I've used it. Don't really like it. But I usually don't need that little bit extra bit of reach. If I do I'd likely use it on my 70-200 f/4.
- Thomas Hawk
Woah, just got my repair quote for the repair on my lens. Canon is repairing it free of charge. That's pretty cool of them.
- Thomas Hawk
Very cool
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yay, Canon...that's great! I have to say, the 135L was my favorite lens and the one I miss the most and really only got to use it a few months before I sold my Canon gear and went all Leica.
- Susan Dennis
That's good to hear.
- Jeremy Brooks
That was nice of Canon to fix it at no charge when it's no longer under warranty. Moves like this win points with the man upstairs.
- tabbr
It was nice of Canon. It was the 4th time it had been in for the same problem. It was nice to see them recognize that and offer to fix it free this time. Normally the warranty on repairs is 6 months.
- Thomas Hawk
i dont like the extender either, ive used the 1.4 and the 2x and it felt like i lost a lot of the sharpness, which is what the 135 is known for. and because im shooting on a crop camera, i get the 1.6 anyway
- tomms
Never heard of a leica lens going in for repair four times. Not even twice.
- Ricardo Liberato
Adobe Lightroom Beta 3 is out. Get it free here: http://labs.adobe.com/technol...
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Looks like some nice features added. Will try out after I install Win 7.
- Joel Lovato
Oh look, they added Flickr integration right into the app.
- meckimac
that's a good app plugin BTW. Digitalrhino turned me on to it
- ENIGMA ARCANA
still no Metadata filter for "focal length" though - I really miss that!
- meckimac
'The Lightroom 3 beta can't upgrade existing catalogs, and Adobe doesn't guarantee that edits made will be recognized by the final version of the software.' http://news.cnet.com/8301-30...
- tabbr
An Open Letter To Whoever Controls The Fate Of FriendFeed - http://www.johnnyworthington.com/...
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To Whom It May Concern, If I was writing a movie based around the current scene at FriendFeed, I would cast you as the big, evil corporation and all of us FriendFeeders as the people at the community centre standing in the way of ‘progress’. But I don’t write movies and, frankly, Channel 7 News isn’t [...]
- Johnny
"FriendFeed is more than a few noisy tech bloggers. While I agree that there is thick filling of tech and social media content here, it sits on a delicious base of personalities and personal connections. Over the 18 months I have been here, I have seen births, deaths and marriages. I have watched children grow, others fight cancer, couples fall in love and felt very real support through my own family issues. I have emotional currency in here, and I am sorely in debt."
- Roberto Bonini
Well said Johnny. Well said.
- Roberto Bonini
You said it much better than I ever could.
- Dennis Jernberg
Well said sir.
- Simon Wicks
If you agree, sign the petition here: http://friendfeed.com/rbonini...
- Roberto Bonini
Bravo.
- Iain Baker
thanks Johnny great letter
- Stephen Baugh
Thought Provoking. They are making a movie about FaceBook, so why not FriendFeed, that is the one I would rather queue for.
- Kevin J Hatton
Robert Scoble's recent words about the future of FriendFeed were meant as a call to arms by him (although that has just become clear). This is my first salvo...
- Johnny
Thank you for serving up this good food for thought and call for action! Here is a meme that might be helpful for the effort - while "FriendFeed: the Company" may be history ... "FriendFeed the Concept" may be the future. It may make as good a verb as it does a noun - like "to google" has become synonymous with search, "to friendfeed" can become the core SN function. Maybe some motivation for FF owners to guide their legacy to this logical conclusion.
- Dan Freeman
I have a feeling I'm being gently shepherded to Facebook. The problem is, I use Facebook for real ife friends and family, and high school classmates. So I don't quite know how to make the transistion.
- Ted Gilchrist
Nice letter - the question is given that it is open source now - should you make your own?
- Comics Forge
http://techwag.com/index... Johnny Worthington who is one of the more dynamic and interesting people on FriendFeed issued an open letter to the developers of FriendFeed to find out what is happening with the web site. Many of the FriendFeed users (myself included) have an emotional and time investment in the system that is not easily...
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- Comics Forge
bookmarked
- mike "glemak" dunn
from iPhone
Speaking of chuckles..... Anyone who goes to my site will still see me in my Hobo State... and anyone who comes here sees me as a pirate.......
- Johnny
Johnny, if anyone can pull off "Hobo Pirate" it's you!!!
- FFing Enigma
Thank you, Johnny, well said.
- Michelle M
1UP, Johnny.
- Rochelle
Johnny - I am new to FF (and most all social media) and arrived only due to the influence of a friend that I wanted to follow (a few months ago I didn't even know what "follow" meant!) ....what I found was an interesting, informative, less commercial site that I now go to numerous times a day. I think your letter precisely expressed the sentiments of most FF'ers new and old....I hope someone was listening!! Thanks for the great effort and I, for one, second that emotion!
- Sharland Allen
Because I'm not all scripty and junk the comment I made over on Johnny's blog won't come over here, so I've copied it instead: "Well said, Johnny. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask what the future holds. Paul Buchheit did say things would carry on but the implication was that it would develop into something new. Change is scary, and unclear change doubly so. When Robert Scoble said...
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- WoH: Minding her Steves
well written good job
- WarLord
*applause*
- Derrick
+11 on a scale of 1 to 10 - thanks, Johnny.
- Micah
Not that it matters, but I "liked" this. I was going to hold steady on 10k likes until my comments caught up, but this was worth it.
- Bren
Well said.
- John (bird whisperer)
For the record I NEVER have said that FriendFeed is in danger of disappearing. At least not soon. I'm not worried about that. I'm more worried that FriendFeed isn't evolving and will soon be matched by other systems (including Facebook, which is where Paul works now). Because I see that happening I have moved a lot of my time to other systems like Twitter and Facebook because I've...
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- Robert Scoble
johnny why do you have default permalinks? you can change them to the ones including post names. would be searchable SEO they say
- ffcode
If I were worried about the servers being turned off I'd stop using this as an aggregator too. Right now I'm bringing all my Twitter Favorites in here which makes them searchable (they aren't searchable on Twitter). That's a HUGE advantage to FriendFeed for the moment. But I know Facebook and Twitter are working on search and Twitter and Facebook just made a deal with Bing.
- Robert Scoble
SuperMassive FistBump to you Sir! Your letter said it all perfectly.
- Morgan
I agree with Robert.
- Jesse Stay
My hope is that if they do match FriendFeed w/ Facebook that they give us all an easy way to transfer our friends over there as either friends or fans.
- Jesse Stay
In case Johnny didn't see this earlier: http://ff.im/af5CI
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
ANOTHER BUMP. (cause that's what we do here on FF)
- Derrick
Paul Buchheit has posted a reply to this that is reassuring: http://friendfeed.com/paul...
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Johnny, you're poignant as always.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Well put, sir.
- Chieze Okoye
Excellent post. Expecting Zuck's response posthaste
- TheIndustryStandard
Good shout dude.
- Keith Bennett
from BuddyFeed
If FF goes away, Johnny wont be in my bowsr lukin at wut i'm duin. and that can't be good. Well said, JW.
- scherbi: bottom dweller
Thank you sir.
- Dennis O'Neil
{{{ HUG }}} for Johnny - thanks!! :)
- Susan Beebe
I know I'm late to this post, but all of what you said is true. I tried, but couldn't say it as well. I just pissed people off. Bravo to you and I hope someone is listening.
- Eric - 100% Choice Cuts
from iPhone
You didn't piss me off, Eric!
- WoH: Minding her Steves
From a well informed source I heard Flickr's DB went tits up, and they're having to restore from the backup of two weeks ago.
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meaning dmu2 still exists?
- andertho
wtf?? does that mean our content since then is lost?
- alibubba
does that mean that DMU will not have been nuked?
- Thomas Hawk
So Heather will have to nuke dmu again?
- Cynical
Heather has her finger on the nuke button as we speak, waiting for the system to come back up.
- Ricardo Liberato
Wait, seriously??
- Stephanie Keating
I thought they didn't have backups...thus coulodn't restore accounts.
- Lee Shelly
liber that is just cruel.. I would gladly give up 2 weeks worth of my non-uploads to get the dmu back.... :(
- Jakey
Yeah... this is really interesting. I would love to go "back in time" so to speak. Two weeks ago... have our old DMU back... nothing at the new DMU would've gone down... no Therrr scare, no splintering.
- Stephanie Keating
Sounds like the resurrection of DMU2
- Ryan MacLean
Of course now that my hopes are up, we'll find out that they're only restoring backups of the help forum from two weeks ago, or something useless like that.
- Stephanie Keating
It's Groundhog Day!
- andertho
2 weeks ago?!? WTF?!? They only backup every two weeks?
- scherbi: bottom dweller
Be sure to catch the kid falling from the tree this time TH
- andertho
I would be nice to have DMU back. Even if they locked it but left the threads up as an archive that would be preferable to having had it nuked.
- Thomas Hawk
So who is the well informed source?
- alibubba
let's just say for one minute that in fact DMU2 as of two weeks ago still exists. What will we do? You specifically TH.
- andertho
What I think we should do: contact Heather immediately with some sort of truce/peace offering. We get to keep our group, everyone will behave (at least temporarily)
- Stephanie Keating
fuck that shit
- eyebex
I think Liber was joking.
- Ryan MacLean
Liber... were you joking?!
- Stephanie Keating
flickr did reappear for about a minute about half an hour ago - things looked much the same
- skelly
WENDY!!
- Jakey
No... Foggy with no breeze here. Oh!!! That's an "E" not an "I". ;)
- Adam Harrison
What I want to know is why Shimmy was immediately an admin in the url that caleb immediately grabbed.
- Jakey
ohhh adam.....!
- Jakey
just remember, this is all about flickr halting the imminent reunification under me and caleb
- andertho
I was totally serious. My cleaning lady told me, and She is very well informed :-D
- Ricardo Liberato
imminent reunification under me and caleb - coincidence? I think NOT!
- skelly
Os made me an admin and then left.
- Shims
Its like my evil plan except bigger. Someone nuked flickr to force a DMU reunification here on ff.
- xooorx
Interesting question Andertho. If in fact DMU2 existed as it had a few weeks ago I'd probably resign from the group. Unless flickr agrees to a system where groups like DMU and equally important photostreams like mine are offered a modicum of respect from immediate and unwarned deletion I have no interest in participating in forums on Flickr.
- Thomas Hawk
The thing is that for the past 6 months there has not a day gone by when I've wondered if today was going to be the day that Flickr nukes my photostream. The TOS/CG is so wide certainly they can find *some* reason to do so. By removing myself from communities actually onsite at Flickr I reduce the risk that they will do this to my photostream.
- Thomas Hawk
They threatened nuking my photostream a few weeks ago.
- Cynical
A lot of people in the help forum were calling for my photostream to be deleted. Why risk that? I want to publish a million photos on Flickr. Why let them nuke it. Anything I say here is off of their servers. I can violate their TOS/CG however I want over here. I can be "that guy" and it would be a stretch and certainly unprecedented (although not impossible) for them to justify the deletion of my account for what i say here.
- Thomas Hawk
Why did they threaten that Cynical?
- Thomas Hawk
Then it must be routing. Hats off to piss-poor engineers?
- Ryan MacLean
Oh? Then that's just sad. It happens.
- Ryan MacLean
They said something about some of my photos being indecent and forced me to censor Cassie by saying she was moderate. It isn't true, she is quite radical, but there is no button for that.
- Cynical
the only radical button on flickr is the nuke button
- eyebex
Back up
- Shims
Not restored to two weeks ago :-(
- Shims
that sucks Cynical, sorry to hear about that.
- Thomas Hawk
hmm... does ANYONE really use flickr as their backup? I mean- seriously- why would you?
- Almond Butterscotch
and TH- if they did nuke your stream, what *would* you do? (I ask because I'm curious to know if you have some sort of secondary plan)
- Almond Butterscotch
I used flickr as my backup while I was travelling Europe for 3 months. I was super paranoid about my camera getting stolen or the memory card corrupting itself, etc... and while travelling I didn't really have much opportunity to back up to cd or harddrive. That was why I bought a pro account in the first place, actually. And then I found that I enjoyed it. :)
- Stephanie Keating
Well, I meant more along the lines of primary/permanent backup storage. Your situation was more temporary- granted, it would've sucked if you'd lost your 3 months of Europe, but not as much as losing everything.
- Almond Butterscotch
Hello everyone!!
- ruan niemann
hey Ruan.
- Thomas Hawk
hey Thomas.
- Almond Butterscotch
hey Almond.
- Thomas Hawk
hi ruan
- Mo Tabesh
@Almond Butterscotch The issue from my perspective isn't that Flickr is my backup or the only place my photos live. The photos are only part of what I have on Flickr, there are tags, faves, comments and contacts. My Flickr account is more than just my photos and if I had it deleted I'd be more than a little disappointed to lose all record of that social activity. Just my 2c.
- Phil Thomas
@Phil Oh, I know about the metadata- I'd hate to lose all that too, but the thing is, at the least, you'd still have all your material. Granted, a large portion of digital photography for a lot of people is the ability to share it easily and get responses quickly, etc. Call me old-fashioned, but I still do it almost exclusively for myself. If someone else likes it (or if 10 people like it), then that's just a plus.
- Almond Butterscotch
@Almond Butterscotch you're old-fashioned. ;-) Whilst I'd like to think that I take photos for myself I think that the larger audience and interaction that comes from Flickr adds a lot of value to photography for me. I don't think I have a particularly big ego but in the olden days when I shot with film and no one saw my pics I did occasionally wonder if there was much point to it all....
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- Phil Thomas
I'm not sure what I'd do if they nuked my photostream Almond, I'd be pissed for sure. As my stream hardly contains offensive content and I no longer post to the forums there I'd hope that they wouldn't do that simply to retaliate against free speech.
- Thomas Hawk
Honestly, TH, I don't think they've ever had much of a legitimate reason for nuking you. You are a paying customer. They don't have a "Management reserves the right to refuse service to anyone" sign up and the customer is always right (unless he orders a well-done steak. Then he's dead wrong and deserves the shittiest slab).
- Almond Butterscotch
This is getting too easy. There is NO WAY I should have four saves in the first page of The Lightbox. It was never this way before. You cunts are getting soft.
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THAT'S better!
- Chris Nixon
I don't know why you even own a camera Chris. Let alone take the time to process your crap photos and put them on flickr.
- Jeremy Brooks
I hope that makes you feel better.
- Jeremy Brooks
Ahhhhhhhhhh. Thanks Jeremy.
- Chris Nixon
i just realized how awesome friendfeed is.
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i cleared my firefox history, that means i logged out of everything. i checked the friendfeed and i saw cody is posting here. i am so glad i can ignore him. feels really good. i will never log out of friendfeed again :P
- Mo Tabesh
wow, I had no idea he was posting here either. The ignore feature is pretty powerful. It's been nice not having to see him or vikiing james either.
- Thomas Hawk
yep. i had no idea cody was posting here.
- Mo Tabesh
who exactly *is* Cody?
- Almond Butterscotch
you don't know who cody is? you are one lucky guy.
- Mo Tabesh
let's say he own 25.67% of all the troll accounts on flickr. lol
- Mo Tabesh
Well, I think what I meant to ask was more along the lines of is Cody a singular person with a shitload of trolls or is that just the name we gave to anyone using a troll?
- Almond Butterscotch
Cody is a singular person with a shitload of trolls.
- Mo Tabesh
I don't see cody here, but I don't think I blocked him...whats his username? and how do i find out if i have him blocked?
- Ryan Dearth
lovely. I'll keep an eye out for dank looking bridges, then.
- Almond Butterscotch
And I know I haven't blocked him... because, well, I haven't ignored anyone.
- Almond Butterscotch
I think he's Cody Robertson here.
- Thomas Hawk
Great idea to take the discussion outside of Flickr.
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Engaging in community on Flickr is risky. They have shown that they can (and will) nuke entire communities and accounts based on their vague interpretations of their TOS/CG. They call this context which gives them an extremely wide latitude to destroy customer data. Flickr's already destroyed my data both in groups and in my photostream. Rather than risking them nuking my entire...
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- Thomas Hawk
Yeah - I've been following what's going on. It sucks worrying about losing everything. We pour so much of our time and energy into that site that (that we're paying for), that it's terrifying that they could just shut us down without notice. I get that they're a company and have the right to do whatever they want with their service, but man, it'd really hurt to lose my account. I have several photos that I've decided not to post because I was afraid they would provoke a negative response from Flickr.
- Blake Caldwell
Also, about posting here - I've spent a little time on Friendfeed without really figuring out the best way to go about it... This group is great because it's more of a focused area for conversation, not the standard people-following that I've been used to. Very good idea - I'm looking foward to seeing how it progresses.
- Blake Caldwell
Is there a link to Friendfeed's terms? Just wondered, because they are owned by Facebook
- RumNose
Their terms are *far* more accomodating than Flickr's. http://friendfeed.com/about... My favorite term is the one about user responsibility which is pretty much exactly the opposite of Flickr's Community Guidelines.
- Thomas Hawk
2. User Responsibility You are solely responsible for your use of the Site and Services. Because FriendFeed merely serves as a repository of information, user-posted content does not represent the advice, views, opinions or beliefs of FriendFeed, and FriendFeed makes no claim of accuracy of any user-posted material. FriendFeed archives links to third-party websites. The linked websites'...
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- Thomas Hawk
they then give the ignore tool to simply ignore whatever content you don't like -- a *far* more responsible way to handle community content than Flickr's team of censors which can and will nuke you without warning at any moment.
- Thomas Hawk
nice! That's the way the internet used to be, possibly how it is supposed to work. Further, the lack of anonymity also means that people say things that they take responsibility for. I like that!
- Shivanand Velmurugan
It's refreshing for a site to say, hey, it's not our job to constantly scrub your experience and nuke groups. It's nice that FriendFeed takes a more mature attitude towards user content.
- Thomas Hawk
Why Flickr's nuking of DMU is such a blow for an uncensored community.
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In nuking DMU without any warning Flickr sent a message that uncensored groups will not be tolerated on flickr. While the complete disruption of a large group on Flickr was horrible. Equally bad is the tone that this sets going forward. We all know that the Flickr TOS/CG are *horribly* vague. By nuking DMU (and threatening to nuke it again) unless admins follow Flickr's interpretation of their TOS/CG as mind readers, it opens up forums on Flickr to petty censorship. The Flickr TOS/CG is vague enough that any admin of any group can take any content in any group and apply a "Flickr TOS/CG violation to it. Any admin can claim that any group member is being "that guy" or is being "creepy" or is harassing another member, or threatening someone. What used to be harmless and natural engagement in groups can now be used by petty tyrant group admins to squash speech that they dislike using the TOS/CG as their hammer and deflecting criticism directed at them for simply censoring free speech....
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- Thomas Hawk
PhotoSketch is an internet-based program that can take the rough, labeled sketch on the left and automagically turn it into the naff montage on the right. http://gizmodo.com/5374890...
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In this case I'd have stuck with the original, but the idea is pretty amazing.
- Chris Nixon
I tried to get into this a little while ago but it seemed offline.
- Thomas Hawk
friday night fun: go read this: http://www.flickr.com/groups...
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Mo, you are kinda sad in that thread. I did like SK's summary, though.
- Ryan MacLean
*face palms*
- charlotte
i just can't believe how many times i tried to explained it to her that i didn't send her porn. i just can't believe she can't understand.
- Mo Tabesh
ryan why am i sad in that thread?
- Mo Tabesh
the multiple facepalms, mo
- Ryan MacLean
ignorance scares me, and makes me sad.
- Mo Tabesh
I doubt cowing her will work, though.
- Ryan MacLean
i am not trying to do anything. she publicly said "mo sent me gay porn in an fmail not suitable for work". what am i suppose to do? nod along?
- Mo Tabesh
Pretty sure you had already made your point at least 2 times?
- Ryan MacLean
In case you were not aware: to cow (third-person singular simple present cows, present participle cowing, simple past and past participle cowed) (transitive) To intimidate.
- Ryan MacLean
Or repeatedly hitting something in the ass until it does what you want it to :)
- Ryan MacLean
Possibly with a 2x4.
- Ryan MacLean
Maybe a rake
- Ryan MacLean
Sometimes when it really won't go to pasture, you can use a pitchfork.
- Ryan MacLean
i understood ryan. i am not trying to do anything.
- Mo Tabesh
she just refuse to accept the fact.
- Mo Tabesh
Welp, I think you've used the pitchfork.
- Ryan MacLean
*face palms* at Ryan
- charlotte
anyway ... good night all.
- Mo Tabesh
Harharhar
- Ryan MacLean
*Hits C in the ass with a 2x4*
- Ryan MacLean
night Mo
- charlotte
^^ that should not be construed as some sort of threat... it was a gentle hit.
- Ryan MacLean
The problem is not that the censors are not nice. It's that there are censors at all.
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indeed. And here's what I don't get. How can a community like FriendFeed operate without censors? I mean really. It seems so impossible doesn't it? Just allowing a community to exist on it's own without censoring it.
- Thomas Hawk
It would have to buckle if we start really upsetting people and they get police or lawyers involved, but it's nice and free for now!
- Ryan MacLean
Or maybe a more mature way of handing things you don't like is simply blocking it.
- Thomas Hawk
Fair enough. :)
- Ryan MacLean
I don't like this thread where can I delete it from existence forever?
- Jeremy Brooks
Seems like the only way is to ignore liber.
- Ryan MacLean
That's not censorish enough! What is this freedom? ;-)
- Jeremy Brooks
One would suppose that you could leave the group as well.
- Ryan MacLean
Ah, self censorship. That'll teach me! :-) I'm in a smartass mood tonight for some reason.
- Jeremy Brooks
I noticed. You put a lot of thought into your deletes ;)
- Ryan MacLean
Yeah, there was that. Although I sincerely meant every word. I think I saved a couple.
- Jeremy Brooks
SF Chronicle: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La. - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin...
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"A white Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have.Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long. "I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else." Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said. Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
crazy. I hope this guy is disciplined and loses his license over this. Pure racism.
- Thomas Hawk
Reading that makes me angry.
- Steve Dorsey
wait, he let's black people use his bathroom? That enrages me too!
- Ryan Dearth
Does he work for the Daily Mail in the UK?
- Chris Nixon
from iPhone
Just had a good lengthy phone call with Pierre Honeyman about Flickr management. Will be interesting to watch where his conversation goes in the Flickr Help Forum.
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The let him back in to the help forum? O_o
- Adam Harrison
Yeah, they let him back in the Help forum. I'm still banned there myself. It will be interesting though to see if/how they engage him there though and if they can actually handle criticism in his thread that he's working on right now. It was a very good call between Pierre and I but we pretty much agree on everything 100% with each other. Flickr's response will be more interesting to me.
- Thomas Hawk
Yes, this is interesting.. Flickr Response s/be what they really say it is.. "the internet is under new managment - you" - Facilicate the forum/glue the gaps and get out of the way. Users are smarter then the Corporation. If they get it , they get it.. else its just becomes corporate screech !!
- Peter Dawson
Peter that's a good message and it's pretty much on key with what Pierre and I believe. But it's not where Flickr's been and although he is probably more optimistic than I am that they are open to allowing dissent and becoming a more tolerant company in the future, I'm far more pessimistic. It will be interesting to watch his thread though.
- Thomas Hawk
"We are waking up and linking to each other. We are watching. But we are not waiting." :)-
- Peter Dawson
Very true.
- Thomas Hawk
are you okay, thomas? you seem subdued :-(
- squacco
no I'm fine. Still just bummed out that they nuked DMU.
- Thomas Hawk
okay, good. i worry, you know...
- squacco
I think what we need right now is a good dose of Shepherd Johnson.
- Thomas Hawk
he'll be off raising a ruckus somewhere *sigh*
- squacco
your critics are your most important asset squacco.
- Thomas Hawk
i have critics?? *cries*
- squacco
I'm speaking about Shepherd. He definitely is a critical one that dude. I don't think you have very many critics.
- Thomas Hawk
here's the translation (i used google translator):
Don’t vent your energy, time, or talent the brains out of other members.
Flickr is not a venue for you to connect, inspire, or improve. If we receive a valid complaint about your vibrant community, we’ll send you a warning or terminate your account. ;-}
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was closed before i post it :-(
- Mo Tabesh
typical zyrcster
- Ryan MacLean
[redirected] a question for heather view profile Mo Tabesh Pro User says: Dear Heather, I wanted to buy a prime lens, and asked DMU members for help. I was going to go to DMU to read the thread again and make a final decision. it's gone now. Can you please help me to choose one? the thread I am talking about has 200+ entries. Your help is highly...
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this was my post after they nuked the DMU2.
- Mo Tabesh
Wow, that was shut down fast.
- Stephanie Keating
yep. around 15 minutes: Sorry, help with what lens to purchase is not a Help Forum topic. Please try asking in a group appropriate to your camera. www.flickr.com/search/groups/
- Mo Tabesh
Ugh, it makes me want to leave Flickr SO badly.
- Stephanie Keating
I sent Flickr a request for her head. But I like your approach.
- Manny Flores
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