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eliminate consumer debt and start saving - at the very least, everyone should have at minimum, 3 months' living expenses in cold, hard cash, today. - Jason Kaneshiro

Four Rs. Retrench, Review, Recover, Renew. How long that takes is the mystery. - Andrew Leyden

as Jason mentioned, 3 months of living expenses should be the norm for everyone. the problem is that hardly anyone in america saves. - Jonathan Jesse

also not spending money we don't have on credit. the problem though is by doing this can help keep the "economy" down as well - Jonathan Jesse

when you buy, buy local. keeping your cash circulating locally will help improve economic conditions in your home town. - MikeAmundsen

we need to 1) get re-focused on actual business models add value that someone will want to pay for 2) find a way to entice investors to invest in SMB - SMB always leads recovery - Brian Roy

This is a GOOD discussion to have...thanks Robert. We all need to really think carefully about what's best for our families, communities and country with regard to any potential economic woes, and hopefully not - but possible - a depression - Susan Beebe (Santa Claus)

Support your local mom-&-pop businesses. Establish business relations with them. Network, network, network. - imabonehead

another angle: what things can web-folks do to use tech to make life better for folks who are in a bad way? kiva-type sites? sites that help business get buy on less thru co-op? sites that help helping-orgs reach more donors as well as more folks in need? - MikeAmundsen

The best thing we can do as employees is to stay focused on growing our businesses, staying innovative and profitable. Regardless of the market, there will always be a need for differentiation and product leadership. The quest becomes how do you transition that into real revenue when budgets are tight. Having been at the same company for eight years now, I weathered the first Bush recession and look like I get the opportunity to go through another one. It’s important to be smart about the money you hold, and to not sell low, and not put yourself in debt. If you and your business have cash and no debt, it makes the process much easier. - Louis Gray

Hoard copper, tin, zinc, iron, steel, etc. It's inflation proof. - Jason Carreira

Cut unnecessary costs in your business. Another excellent thing you can do to successfully combat worries about economic depression, is to go out and help others, like the homeless. The life you save may well be your own. You help the homeless and you'll get a better natural high than putting in a grueling physical workout at the gym. - J. D. Ebberly

@JD: +1 - MikeAmundsen

Barter, network, form guilds, support local businesses, save, manage your debt, make sure your business model is actually a business model, blog, connect with your community so you stand out and people pick you over the competition. - Eric_T

Having 3 months worth of expenses saved is a good idea, but I don't think it will help you in a depression. - Alex Scoble CISSP

Cash is king in a depression.... - RHinNC via twhirl

Fear, my friends is not the best decision motivator in a time like this.. it only brings exactly what you're afraid of happening. Everyone getting scared and pulling out of their banks/investments will just speed up the crashing process. - Maria

Were not anywhere near a depresion tho, so far the only sector affected is the financial sector. All others are healthy. - RHinNC via twhirl

@RHinNC the problem is the financial sector isn't lending others in the sector money. cash isn't flowing as quickly around as it used to - Jonathan Jesse

The financial sector is the only one effected? Go look at http://finance.google.com/fina... - Jason Carreira

Take responsibility. we should stop being asleep at the wheel. Stop spending beyond our means to look like we have more than we have. Stop feeling entitled to XYZ amount of money. We will only make what the market can support so expect it to be lower and live with it. Start paying attention so we are aware and educated to make decisions. When was the last time you saw a large protest like those that changed civil rights, etc.? We're said to be one of the stupiest, laziest countries - so let's make it cool not to be that. The majority of our country will still live better than 90% of the world despite our economic situation. - Patricia

For those with the ability lend money via services such as Zopa. For others use Zopa in preference to the banks for that loan needed to renovate the house or start a business. - We need to rebuild the whole financial system from the ground up as Umair (http://www.bubblegeneration.co...) using the technology and skills that we have. - Simon Cast

science, engineering - we’re going to need to build real things. our biggest export can’t just be debt. this will take a lot of time, but if you’re a parent - exposing your kids to science, engineering, electronics, computer programming is an investment that will actually pay off. so my challenge to “Techcrunch, GigaOm, ReadWriteWeb, Center Networks, Mashable” would be for them to cover some of the cool and interesting people/companies that make things. we are what we celebrate… - make

Hoard canned food which does not require refrigeration. - Paul Denlinger

I think we will see people going back to school, CS degree enrollments are way up this fall off historical lows. Great for colleges (full disclosure, I teach). - dan

I think there's a lot of things as individuals we can do: live within our means. Shop local. Eat local food. Go to the farmer's market. Buy handmade. Buy American. Spending a little money now to greenify to save money later over the winter when energy bills go up. The latter is something I personally plan to focus upon; I live in a 99 year old house with 99 (and 40) year old windows. That needs to change so what little savings we have don't go out the window, literally. - Amie Gillingham

This is the moment when economic neccessity and climate issues should help all of us reevaluate our consumerism. - susan mernit

Posts like this one from Scoble are a good start. Focus on solutions instead of focusing blame. Come together rather than allowing politicians and talk show personalities to further divide us. Don't let panic cloud judgment. - Howard Keziah

Start a movement, so that instead of government trying to bailout the banks and financial institution, let the goverment subsidize the gas and electiricity. That will provide buying power for the middle class. - Ranjith Antony

I'm liking the upsurge in thrift - recycling, making do with what you have, repairing things yourself to make them last longer. - Jason Kaneshiro

Most importantly, stay calm and try to maintain some sense of personal balance. Yes, it's hard in this difficult environment, but a relaxed mind makes every problem more manageable. - Michael Krigsman

I can write this up in a blog post with more details if people are interested - but at SmugMug, we're looking at this optimistically. Our business is solid and strong, so we think that A) a downturn will harm or eliminate many of our competitors, and B) we'll be able to load up on engineering talent. In essence, we think we'll double-down as things get harder so we're really ready to rumble when they perk back up. - Don MacAskill

Don, at one point you wrote that competitors folding hurt you because it made all photo-sharing sites look worse. Is this still the case? - Bruce Lewis via fftogo

what the western governments are doing right now is exactly what communist/socialist governments were always doing, we are heading to socialism here my friends, they will convince you that this is still capitalism but it is not, the capitalism as we know it is over... - Dorian Tireli

I'm with you there, either way we're making history! - Aaron Krug

i thought bill clinton was america's first 'black' president. silly me. lolz - .LAG

It's not just about making history - it's about setting the world back on the right track - Chris Saad via twhirl

McCain needs to keep the votes from those who would have voted for HRC, had she made it to be the dems candidate, but were moving towards him once the nomination was lost. Not much more information about Palin this side of the pond, but it sounds a bit like a last minute contingency plan to me. - dario

+ - Marco (aureliusmaximus)

Just consider: Palin as commander-in-chief. You nervous yet? How about the military brass? - Glenn Batuyong via twhirl

Well-said, Chris. - stretta via twhirl

McCain's choice of running mate is obvious pandering to get just that reaction from voters. Palin is a weak candidate, maybe weaker that Quayle who we remember couldn't spell potato or some such ridiculous thing. - Rafael Robayna

half-caucasian. either that, or we can just say he's black (versus *non*-caucasian) like everyone else. sorry, feeling nitpicky today. - Kamilah Gill

Good point. It will be a "change" - Eric_T

For me it's more about what's the right thing to do, who represents the best opportunity for a better America? Who is going to dig us out of the hole Dubya dug so resolutely? That's what gets me excited. It's nothing to do with race, gender, religion or whatever. I'm now an Obamacan because I genuinely believe he will offer this country the best chance right now. - Sally Church

Yep this is shaping up to be a very pivotal election. We're presented with two very different ideas of the "american dream" (yes, it seems we don't all agree on this means) - and how to achieve it. - Jason Kaneshiro

I agree with Chris. It's nice that we're making history, but much more is at stake than history. - Chieze Okoye

It will be interesting for Mcain and his running mate. I mean he doesn't even think women should get paid the same as men. - PC Easy via twhirl

not an Obamacan or a McCainiac, I'm an American - Jeff Quinton

For most jobs in the tech sector, you can't actually do much to guarantee that women will get paid the same as men. Most of the time the people working alongside each other have no idea what the other people are getting paid. And employers should be allowed to base pay on experience and merit. I don't see how you can equalize pay in most non-unionized jobs where there isn't a set pay scale. - Alex Scoble CISSP

I'm not against the idea of women getting paid the same as men for the same job given that they both have similar experience and performance, but I don't see how this can be effectively regulated in industries where people are salaried. - Alex Scoble CISSP

I can like that! - Jill, Superhero Librarian

I realized that too -- very cool indeed. - Tamar Weinberg

Exactly what I told my kids over lunch today. Historic and way overdue. - Kevin C. Tofel

There are firsts and there are meaningful firsts -- I'll take the Obama first over the Palin first any day. - Mitch Ratcliffe via twhirl

Couldn't have said it better myself, Chris :) - Mona N.

Palin is a joke conservative so I disagree. Obama needs to win to change this country for the better and for the future - Photo Larry via twhirl

That's exactly what my History teacher said. - OekelWm

If they'd bought Yahoo, they would have Delicious already. - Morton Fox

+1 Chris LOL - Mona N.

b/c the average joe doesn't use delicious, and now MS can have greater stats the Google. It will most likely now include some 'security fix' to IE and track your every movements - clarke thomas

They should just buy Digg and get it over with LOL - Mona N.

Yes...buy digg...then burn it. Burn it all! Bahahaha! - Mo Kargas

=O - Mona N.

*sigh* By the screenshot it looks like its only available to developers. They can do no right. - Larry Hudson

But with Diigo, Google Reader, delicious, magnolia, FFx 'read it later' extensions, WHY enter the game so late? It makes NO sense =\ - Mona N.

Mona, MS probably believe they're better off entering late than not at all. But yeah, they're also better off purchasing one. - Mo Kargas

Ugh, they should concentrate on overhauling useless Vista. oops, did I just say that? ;) - Mona N.

Not a chance against Diigo. All of my Microsoft students use it to annotate Microsoft TechNet articles. BTW All full ahead steam for windows 7. Vista is another ME. Another bad egg - James Herbert via twhirl

Maybe they could spend a little time with the Zune software instead? ...nah, - Joe Pierce

This will FAIL FAIL FAIL. - Håkan Dahlström

LOL @ Zune! And LOL @ Hakan! Fail Fail Fail Fail! - Mona N.

Will there be a Firefox add-on? - Joe Pierce

It quite possibly may be "IE" only ;) - Mona N.

Anyone who believe in FF plugin raise your hand - Håkan Dahlström

I don't understand this. Why would MS want to create a digg, delicious, reddit etc. with just tech links? If you want that then just search the tech-related channels/tags on each of those sites. Isn't one of the main features of tagging that you can easily sort stuff you're interested in from the morass? - David Young

And that's why it's SO hilarious! - Mona N.

This conversation is so funny I can't stop laughing. FOLKS this is an overhaul of the forums, okay? Nothing else. Move along. - Yuvi (has IRL friends!)

Forums? Link, please - Mona N.

http://forums.microsoft.com/ms... This is the Developer's forum. There are two more. Quite a few people are active there, y'know. - Yuvi (has IRL friends!)

Scratch the last comment. The new forum is here: http://forums.msdn.microsoft.c... The old forums will soon be phased out. - Yuvi (has IRL friends!)

It's down. Go figure lol - Mona N.

why ? because most of their user base do not know about the other tools, so they will have an audience for this one - Olivier

@Mona - Which is down? - Yuvi (has IRL friends!)

Both the forums open up pretty well for me... - Yuvi (has IRL friends!)

http://img.skitch.com/20080822... - Mona N.

I get that notice too, but the Forum loads up just fine :) - Yuvi (has IRL friends!)

Does anybody remember when they failed to acquire FoxPro first time round, so they built Access ? - Jonathan Beckett

So folks, they aren't trying to compete with delicious or digg or reddit - They're just adding a few more socnet features to MSDN. That's it. Can we let this rest in peace? - Yuvi (has IRL friends!)

Heh sorry Yuvi, it's Microsoft, they can do no right in the bloggy media-y tech eyes, even if they DO have some interesting stuffs. It's en vogue. Chic. Hip. Hate on MS like all your friends, amirite? - Eric Rice

@Yuvi - like Eric said, no. For some folks it is critically, personally important for MS to be evil and wrong. It makes them rebels, or something. - Soulhuntre via twhirl

I see the voice of reason has already been here. Thanks, @Yuvi. - mrshl

Also, while I'm here, can I call BS on the Mashable post? - Yuvi (has IRL friends!)

A good VC investment is in a startup that does conversions. I'd offer up REZZING as a test vehicle. - Eric Rice

@Eric - just follow Andy Grove. Converting the fleet is exactly what he is getting behind http://www.greencarcongress.co.... If you are interested in electric, also check out http://www.betterplace.com. They propose to move the entire infrastructure from localized to centralized power plants with the battery as the mechanism for delivery. - tagami

Conversion kits would be cool as long as I can still spin the rear wheels and drift it!! ;-) - Eric_T

Yeah I'm a snob, I don't want to sacrifice, performance, or the endless array of things you can do like DRIFT. Sorry, I'm Californian. Raised on the belief that you are what you drive. lol - Eric Rice

it only get 40 miles per charge? wtf? how is it going to take them 2 more years just to put out 10 year old technology? - Ňicķ

oh oh oh... I think I just ejaculated. 40 miles per charge is fine for the day to day. most of fuel is not used for long road trips - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Eric Rice... I'm not sure conversion will be a feasible alternative. am I wrong? I hope u r right because if you can convert back and forth... that would be best. use the petrol for the long trips and switch into a hybrid mode. oh the options could be endless. why not on top of all this a few solar panels... or wind conversion? it is a damn moving object! there are so many options where fuel could be saved! Even after we weed off petrol. honestly I still see uses for black gold though for trucks - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

It always seems like the thing we want now is this perpetual 2 years away. Just please, give us the OPTION to struggle with figuring out how to charge. Shit, my Segway gets 24 miles per charge and I can deal with that. But if I want to get something better (in a nice form factor) it's from one extreme to the other. So we hack or we wait. - Eric Rice

Plug-ins scare me a little, especially with such a small range. What happens if you misjudge, use too much AC, go uphill too much, etc... and find yourself out of juice? People complain about their iPhone's running out of charge cause they can't carry an extra battery. What happens when their *car* runs out of charge? - felix

Nisan and other Japanese automobile manufacturers are ready to bring out electric powered cars by 2010 as well as Chinese car makers.Please read my Newsvine article about electric powered cars http://igorthetroll.newsvine.c... - Igor The Troll

hey Felix... get ready to get jumped! old fashioned like ;-p ...as for the options they are exciting and I think it is a reality that we are entering into. It is very exciting! I think what we as friendfeeders should do is start to educate ourselves on how these things work. One of the problems with todays cars is the grease monkeys can't play anymore and the cars have specialists for every bolt. It is exciting that America is leading the innovation here and is inspiring other countries to keep up.... - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

it is very important to keep focused on the next step... and that next step is in education. the population needs to know how these things work. If the population is informed of the nuts and bolts of how these machines work then they can't be lied to by salesmen trying to sell a "people's" machine for more then it should be worth on repairs. We need to keep informed on all schematics. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

example of automobile scams today is year old cars are selling for a few thousand dollars and yet yearly insurance is the value of the cars we are driving... I mean WTF!? We need to make sure we aren't told by the car people that because our cars are electric that they are more disposable. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Heh I think our work flow with a car differs from a communication device. Jason: Well I'm LA-friendly and yeah well, I recognize that both norcal and socal have the same level of pretentiousness, but one is more in denial than the other. The other wears it like a BADGE OF HONOR. :) I think Valley people are the worst because we ain't so hive-individualistic like SF... we have that social hybrid thing going on. :P - Eric Rice

I alreeady had a car that ould go back and forth between gas and CNG. It was fine. Any ybrid is fine for the bridge to plug in cars with longer battery life. - Francine Hardaway

The interesting part is that "Chevron oil" holds the patent for the lithium batteries that where used in The Toyota RAV4 EV manufactured from 2001! Around 2005 they withdrew the patent license from Toyota preventing the manufacturing of an affordable electric powered car. http://igorthetroll.newsvine.c... - Igor The Troll

In America GM took a huge risk by not going hybrid and instead going pure electric. I don't buy that theory at all Igor because the profit margin on an electric battery that they were sole patent owner of would of been more profitable for an oil company then the oil itself. Chevron makes one ninth of what our government makes off of taxes on petroleum. My real suspicions as to who would be hurt fiscally by dropping petroleum lie with the Democrats. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

The fact is the "Green" movement has become the "Greed" movement and we need to make sure Chavez, Obama and Pilosi do not get into power. A close to free market is the real "Green". When oil is hard to get then we will have alternatives... we already know oil is hard to get... so the market is demanding otherwise. I'm not going to be fooled by the BLUE STATE TYRANNY anymore. Gore has investments in big oil as well. These people running our Senate want 2 turn America into a self hating "Green Ghetto" - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Noah I am just quoting the facts! So why Chevron took the lithium battery off the market? - Igor The Troll

could be many reasons. Government pressure? OPEC and Saudi pressure? - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

The Saudis don't pay our government shit! Chevron has to lick their balls. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

but Chevron itself is like a Jew working for a bunch of Cossocks during a pogrom - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Haha! You hit the nail square on its head! - Igor The Troll

Let's just blame it all on @aManDaChapel "she" is the root of all evil. lmao - Igor The Troll

co-signing onto "doucheless cars." - Baratunde Thurston

Eric, my dad has a collection of old Street Rodder magazines, and theirs an awesome article from like 69 I remember reading on converting a VW Bug to electric. - Clay Newton

I don't think you understand what I am saying. Chevron is powerless. They can't even make decisions that they profit off of for fear of immediate price punishment. The oil companies have their hands tied and they want out of this business more then we do. They can't move out of oil fast enough to be able to survive without petrol. OPEC could easily go to Chevron and say hey boys we decided to sell the petrol to the Chinese government for twice the price. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

like I have said in the past. if you want oil company PR... then turn on PBS. that is who supports public media. they don't want the Iraq war because it was bad for their business. They would of made more money selling Iraqi oil to France or Russia for twice the price... an American market is a disaster for Chevron. That is why Obama --> Europe and OPEC are in conspiracy. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

and here we are trying to tax our oil and make it too expensive for the consumer,... we been bamboozled.... but not by Bush. Bush got fucked by oil back in 2000 when he was informed the prices would go up. We got screwed because the Democrats are the oil money! - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Yeah. It pisses me off that we have to "look forward" to a new electric car. One. Why cant we just walk in and, you know, buy them? From multiple car manufacturers? Arg. - Andru Edwards

so who wants to make me a big shell that i can wear while on my segway so i can fake people out? lol - Eric Rice

Eric I'm going to hit your Segway with my bike. - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

I did the math and a person spending $40,000 would get a return with four and a half years. by 2013 there will be legitimate competitors and by 2016 there will be conversion in my estimates... old cars might be still of use because chances people won't use them much next decade... so the conversion thing will be soon - Ⓝ〄ⒶⒽ ⒹⒶⓋⒾⒹ ⓈⒾⓂ〄Ⓝ

Noah, I drive a Segway, a bike and a 4x4, BRING IT ;) - Eric Rice

Conversions FTW. I don't want some sorta of space egg, I want my current car converted. Make it so. - Mo Kargas

Would be nice for these various javascript libraries to be loaded dynamically, especially if they're not already compressed. - Glenn Batuyong via twhirl

Using pingdom, gigaom took 3.6 seconds to load and techcrunch.com took 9 seconds. Looks like gigaom subscribers should happier than techcrunch :-) - Atul Arora

i don't own a tv because of the ads ... don't now how far i will take that, but certainly to some distance into the internet. if ads take my attention from where i want it to go, i wont use the service - Gregory Lent

The topic you two are talking about, Sean and I talked about on his podcast tonight - not sure when it goes up, but it can be found at SeanPAune.com - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Even $12.39 seems low to me compared to what we get for our videos. - Andru Edwards

$12.39 isn't sustainable to a professional production. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Andru: way low for me too. I couldn't do what I do for $12.39 CPMs. Traveling the world is expensive. This is why we do sponsorships and don't do CPM-style advertising. - Robert Scoble

The two models I see working for people right now are sponsorship and/or premium content. Sponsorship works for entertainment, and/or what Robert's doing - especially for what Robert's doing. Premium works great for how-to genre stuff. Imagine a 5 minute free photoshop video that then offers you 40 minutes of step-by-step for $1.99 a pop. I could see that buying gas. - Chris Brogan

I should say that my friends at http://gimp.tv are doing the premium model and finding it working well. - Chris Brogan

@gregory lent I do see your point, but production takes time, and in many cases, money. For you to receive consistent, quality programming, those that create eventually need some kind of compensation. Free is great, but not always sustainable. Time, skill, and effort are in their own way currencies. If an add can help a quality producer keep going, why deny an income? My studio equipment costs way more than I have made from New Media so far, and I am one of the lucky people that makes money at this stuff. - Eban Crawford

The reason why CPM is cheap is because it is about broadcasting a message to thousands in hope of reaching a few people. Accessing the attention of a homogeneous group of people belonging to a a target market is an advertiser's dream. The internet has the capacity to reach these individuals better than any broadcast medium. The money goes to those on the inside who will candidly deliver the message for the company in a way the group appreciates as credible and relevant. - Brian Rendel

Flashy ads (e.g. TechCrunch) challenge my ADHD in what is an already attention economy. For this reason, RSS is my only reading platform. And commentary takes place on FriendFeed to avoid any distractions from what really matters to me. Video is the worst (e.g. abc.com), especially with automatic starts. I'm almost more willing to pay $1.99 on iTunes than deal with the same advertisement replayed (w/o ability to fast forward) throughout show. - Anne-Marie McReynolds

Sustainable video on the web won't work the same way it works on TV. People don't want and won't use ads overlaid on content. Content creators and advertisers have to be more collaborative to drive value through their messaging for the users. It should be clearly ID'd as sponsored content but the messaging needs to be based on value - not just a "hey look over here!" The current system is too TV-driven, which doesn't work online, which is why the CPMs are terrible. - Morgan

I didn't ever realize it was here the first time - RAPatton

Man if slap bracelets are next, I'm totally down. Rad. - Mark Trapp

Oh no - Corie "Viper" Jones

What are those shoes Bilson is wearing? - RAPatton

God, please no. - Orphan Spinster Librarian

here comes the Members Only jackets! - Nathan Eckenrode

I am undecided, though I did like the "skinny jeans" phenomenon... - JoEllen

I'm investing in hairspray companies preemptively... - Jason Carreira

i protest. it's far too early to bring back the eighties. the wounds are too fresh. - idnan

Never! - Michelle Martinez

Members Only jackets have been around for a long time. I think I see at least 2 people wearing them every time I go out. - Corie "Viper" Jones

YES! My generation making its resurgence. Woohoo 80s! :P - ·[▪_▪]·

Oooh, I dunno. Only Katie Holmes' jeans look pegged. The others look like they're just rolled, sans 80s peg action. I'll need more convincing. ;) - Kevin Hessel

did pegging go out of style? next you'll tell me mullets aren't cool either. - grant

It... went away? - l0ckergn0me

In the immortal words of Darth Vader, NOOOOOOOOOOO! - Shawn McCollum

Why, God, WHY? - eve shot first

I'm apparently incredibly immature because my first thought was "heh heh heh.... pegging". I'll go put myself in the corner now. - Nine

Impressive, but will "pinning" them come back? - Jason Shellen

Since I am a little short I have been doing a "loose" peg/cuff for years. ;-) - Eric_T

yes, when you are quite short like me (and like Ginger -- 5' 2 3/4" FTW!), rolling up the pants can be a lifesaver... - edythe

Bad idea back then, even worse idea now. It's up there with legwarmers. - ::Kristen::

also, i must voice my love for those open-toe booties on the far right!! - edythe

Hey! I still like legwarmers . . . although admittedly I don't wear them as often as I would like. :P - Lindsey

No thanks. - Tad, better than boredom

Gah. Do not want. I do like the 80s shoes I saw at Target. Nothing says 80s like that fringe with little bow on a pump. - Cyndy

I used to have a cropped jean jacket with leather fringe all over it. Awful! - Michelle Martinez

@edythe - Toupee tape works really well to "hem" pants. ;-) - Corie "Viper" Jones

Hemming pants? Stitch witchery = WIN - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)

...but that's permanent. I like something I can remove (so I can wear pants with different size heels). - Corie "Viper" Jones

Toupee tape sounds kind of scary. Not as creepy as toupee magnet though... - Mark Forman

Hehe, it's just really strong double-sided tape. :-) I've been using it since I was in high school to fix my jeans. - Corie "Viper" Jones