and then I will comment on whoever follows me here...
- Alpay Erturkmen
Louis, I recently got the "high five" DM spam, too. So off-putting!
- Robert J Taylor
from iPhone
I just need to spend more time setting up FF so it is my friend that intercepts all my social media content but only from who I want to read!
- Pentaxfan
Friend feed seems like mainstream to most serious ones?
- jibzy
Friendfeed has it's strengths once you get it setup
- Chris
@robert whether or not FF is technically better than <insertsocialnetwork> its really a question of said network reach
- Sean Scott
Once a week I go through my followers and delete most/all of the spammers, but I only have like 50-60 so it's not hard to do.
- Allison Warnock
Let's hope the spammers and bots and etc don't attack us here on FriendFeed next. I won't tell them if you don't.
- Louis Trapani
from iPhone
Sean: well, FF has better search, grouping, real time, a better community, and more.
- Robert Scoble
In two years on Twitter I have never used any bots nor even tried to sell anything. I always look at profiles personally before following anyone and have never been concerned with how many are following me.
- Gord Young
See, cross posting that offer to Twitter is misleading
- Kevin Krewell
It is fun to watch my follower ## on Twitter go between 200 and 230 it is a constant battle to see what I post. Just not that interesting at times!
- Pentaxfan
Interesting project! Please follow us @streamfile :)
- Kimmo Gläborg
Checking in here...hope we continue to follow each other, Robert!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I'm pretty sure I've commented here before Robert, but you don't follow me here or on Twitter. Not that I want you to under just for the sake of it...
- Gurpreet
Today's secret password is "cheese".
- Andrew Smith
...only if you actually find my tweets interesting enough.
- Gurpreet
It's Unfollow Sunday. Just purged all the bots, spammers, SEO/social media types from my own Twitter account. I never autofollow. Still got the "high five" DM spam, though...
- Dennis Jernberg
Nice when you integrate Facebook and twitter and multiple accounts so you can read all at one place. I have to say I use Seesmic to read posts more than FF.
- Pentaxfan
bit bucket... here i come :) ps: scoble, what if we just "like" your post ;)
- simran
@pentaxfan of course. not wanting to start a FF vs Twitter debate. just saying the glasses through which we judge better or superior are diff based on our interests. Plus in the end FB will take it all :P
- Sean Scott
This is a sly way to get us to sign up for FF :)
- valb00
According to my following list, Scoble was the second person I followed after joining Twitter. A long time ago that was.
- Stephen Sclafani
UX tip for FF. Be nice to be able to click on the comment link at the end of a comment stream. Having to scroll back up on these long threads breaks flow.
- Sean Scott
Kimber: wait and watch http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... and see if I like any of your posts. I read a LOT and if you are posting interesting stuff I'll probably like it.
- Robert Scoble
Sean: click twice on the time stamp and you'll get a window of just this chat and you'll see a comment entry area at the bottom.
- Robert Scoble
You will end up following me anyway. They all will. :)
- Matt G
But you're already following me here on Friendfeed, Robert. How is Twitter going to be different?
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
FriendFeed is better, deeper, yet Twitter works better on the go
- Majento
There's a lot to like about FF, except it needs a bigger community. Twitter is like the iPhone - for iPhone it's all the applications, with Twitter (and Facebook) it's all about the number of poeple.
- Kevin Krewell
@Sean, that is why we are always looking for new and improved apps to operate at a better level with more consistency. Take it easy! I'm off to bed for my 5 hours of mediocre horizontal time out.
- Pentaxfan
Hi Robert, you are obviously going to be following a lot more people. Thanks.
- Rob Zachritz
And I return. (Just cleared my account so I can start afresh with friend lists) :)
- BeauGiles
Robert, you have lost a lot of followers. I have been watching all night.
- TheHenry
I don't get the appeal of auto-following. I for one would not want thousands of updates showing up in my timeline.
- Alex Knight
Twitter -ly ♪ and FriendFeed -ly ♪ livin' in perfect har-mony ♪♪♪ LOL Why can't we be friends ♪♪♪
- RetiredTeacherD
Just created a corporate FF account so you can follow our corporate Twitter at http:/www.twitter.com/senderok - Plug-in with anti-phishing icons for the inbox and photo business cards in the header pane
- SenderOK
I'm here I'm here! :D just curious, what do you have against SEO and Social Media experts?
- Celia
Really? BTW I'm just a regular geeky gal.
- Teresa O
TheHenry: and I will lose even more this week. No biggie. I don't define myself by who follows me, especially if they are there just to get a follow back.
- Robert Scoble
We're already facebook friends. And I think friendfeed friends too. But FF just hasn't hit critical mass yet. It'll be cool when it does. Nice job throwing another rock at the hornet's nest! :-)
- Dan Becker
Rory: the catch is I might like one of your posts and then you'll have to deal with my other friends. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm glad to know that you are still interested in hearing from us :), I'm @tsudo
- Keith - @tsudo
Robin: I have only seen a handful of spams here. They are easily blocked and there are other defenses against them that I won't talk about here.
- Robert Scoble
Are we not allowed to comment if you are already following us?
- RobinDotNet
Are all those SEO types you're unfollowing now following me?!
- Dennis Jernberg
Thing I don't like is that FF doesn't have a very good topic when the primary line is directed at twitter. There may or may not be a link to something after FF part. Which means FF becomes a bit of a treasure hunt. I like FF for commentary but I hate the initial post.
- Justin Howard
Robert: Thanks mate, interesting and probably efficient idea. I'll do the same for quality content, tired of those "I just used whateveryoucallit.com to gain 300 new followers right now!".
- Nir Ben Yona
Hi Robert, I had to do the exact same thing to nail all the twit spam I was getting. Hope you get it all sorted!
- James Brown
Even as we sit here, my iPhone dings with new follow e-mails from spam/marketing people. Sigh.
- RobinDotNet
Stephane: LOL, probably. I took this line from Chris Brogan's "Twitter Etiquette Guide".
- Nir Ben Yona
The joys of not being internet famous means I can check out followers personally, block where required and I've only ever got about 2 DM spam. But with the volumes that Robert gets, it's obviously not possible.
- Rachel Clarke
I think Twitter needs something like captcha to keep the bots to a minimum, IMHO.
- Dennis Jernberg
Robert -- yes, on twitter. It seems the more you tweet, and the more people you communicate with, the more spammers follow you. Hoping for auto-follows I guess (I disappoint them in that regard.)
- RobinDotNet
Good way to filter, you know the spammers don't actually read anything or participate
- Justin Luey
What is the utility of being "followed" by someone who doesn't tweet and who follows thousands? What do they do, sit at their terminal and watch the tweets go by all day long?
- RobinDotNet
First day on Friend Feed and Robert Scoble is available. What a welcome.... Carey@holisticdds
- Carey O'Rielly
What will you do when the spammers/SEOs infest Friendfeed, as they will, or do you believe this is better crowdsourced and will be able to hold against the hordes?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Rachel -- But numbers alone don't mean anything. Are they that shallow? That must be a stupid question.
- RobinDotNet
Is this going to be the 'most-commented-ever' post on Friendfeed? 240+ already!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Aaman: FriendFeed is FAR more defendable against spam than Twitter is.
- Robert Scoble
and how would this benefit people who follow Robert Scoble?
- Seyfi Erol
That seems like a good idea, but I think you're already following a lot of these people
- Carlton Prest
Seyfi: why don't you follow me and see how it goes?
- Robert Scoble
I've gotten 4 follow e-mails since my first post here from people I don't want to follow. Do the bots start running right around midnight?
- RobinDotNet
Mahendra, you're not following the threads in Russian (that's my only hint) :D
- Micah
Robin: oh yes. But I'm never sure what's worse. the people who just want to talk about the numbers or the people they may be able to impress.
- Rachel Clarke
Aaman - Friendfeed doesn't make link-tracking easy, so it's less interesting for spammers to infest.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Is this a test of interaction or more likely a sort of audience verification?
- Gilgamesh
Gilgamesh: it is what you want it to be. For me I followed you.
- Robert Scoble
If twitter is noise, and FriendFeed is conversation, Robert Scoble followers are their own discussion. It's like using an entirely different website.
- Carlton Prest
Rachel, that's a good point. Is Facebook the same way? I joined that and suddenly got all these people I've nothing in common with who want to be my friend. Creepy.
- RobinDotNet
Derek: heh, yeah, I am watching this, among other things running across my screen.
- Robert Scoble
Robin: Facebook is the same but I think to a lesser extent - it's harder to find people I think. But still got a load of friend requests that I ignore as I don't know them
- Rachel Clarke
I already do. what i mean is if we don't keep FF, Twitter limited to our interests, wouldn't it be garbage we already try hard to get rid of. Or how far can we extend our interests in life or amount of information we consume?
- Seyfi Erol
Derek -- I mean people I really have NO connection with at all. I've only friended a couple of people I work with, and 2 other real friends. I'm getting friend requests from people I don't know at all.
- RobinDotNet
Seyfi: you haven't discovered FriendFeed's groups and lists yet, have you?
- Robert Scoble
I got a Russian-speaking follower on Twitter. I didn't follow him because I don't understand a word he tweets.
- Dennis Jernberg
Did you know that Facebook has started selling parts of itself to the Russians? At end of May, they sold 1.96% stake of Facebook to Russia's Digital Sky Technologies for $200M.
- RobinDotNet
Robert: I shouldn't have underestimated you. You probably have started much longer comment threads on Friendfeed before.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Mahendra, Robert, I agree, FF has been very good at keeping out junk
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Mahendra: I have. I gave away $5,000 once and got more than 1,000 comments on that. But that cost me a lot of cash. Can't afford to do that again.
- Robert Scoble
DST is run by Alisher Usmanov who is closely tied with Putin. You feel ok to that, but re-read the company's user agreement where it says it can share all of your info with third parties. Of course, it's irrelevant to this thread, but I thought it was interesting.
- RobinDotNet
FF is interesting assuming the topic is FF... and/or Scoble's next devilishly clever stunt to generate FF comments
- John Hardy
John: there are lots of interesting topics here on FriendFeed. Did you know you could search by them based on number of likes? Click "Advanced Search" and try.
- Robert Scoble
Yo Robert: a man has to do what a man has to do, so one surfer to another: go for it!
- Geer
Here here! A good cleansing is good, now and then... Starting fresh is the way to go, get all of that nonsense out and maintain a core group of people for solid conversation!
- Brian Partridge
Great taking the tour w/ you, Levar Burton & @VegasBill during CES 09 at the Atomic Testing Museum. I would appreciate the follow back. Thanks Robert!
- Chris R
Thanks for following back on Twitter Robert. Cheers from Las Vegas!
- Vegas Bill
I'm pretty sure we're friends here, only just wish there was a easy way to check... and if there is, that some one will let me know....
- Grant Bierman
Just out of curiousity, why are there fewer spammers and bots on FF compared with Twiitter? Is it because they haven't discovered FF yet?
- Sally Church
from iPhone
there are occasionally spammers on FF but I think they mostly get handled quickly vs Twitter where more than occasionally clusters of spammers just follow each other...
- Shannon Clark
Sally: I don't explain spam defenses in public. I don't want spammers to figure them out. But there are quite a few defenses against spam here.
- Robert Scoble
I was surprised about the spammer comments, until I started getting female nude model followers and I'm a women. Maybe a nude male model but not Sparkle or Hootie McBoob
- Corrine Pearce
Corrine: hope you don't see that here on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Why are you doing this? You have one of the best listening audiences on twitter! Is there a point to prove that we will post here or go to wefollow?
- David Cole
David: and I can prove that. Twitter's audience has become less and less engaged lately.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, powerful shift by Robert Scoble, I'm really interested in seeing how this works for you Scoble. I slept through all the big news here tonight.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Interesting experiment. This is probably one the most commented feedfriend threads in history!
- Menno te Koppele
Plus, David, if you all are listening, you are listening because of my ability to find cool stuff. Mostly that's been because of FriendFeed over the past 18 months. Now I've seen how ascerbic Twitter's spammers have gotten on my accounts.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting. This is going to boost 1000 egos for sure :-)
- Freddie Benjamin
So will it be a matter of just trying to say ahead of the spammers by jumping from one early adopted social network to another?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
JP: no. I am not leaving Twitter. I AM, however, deleting all their accounts so I will no longer be passing them juice.
- Robert Scoble
I wonder how will your FF homepage look like after this.
- ahmet bulent
Does this make you anti-social media?
- Cory Brown
To follow commenters from here on Twitter will be a lot of work for you Robert. Or do you have some magic tool that helps?
- Tibor Holoda
Robert, how many of the 100k do you think you'll still be following when you are done?
- RobinDotNet
~~~> Robert!! Follow me back again. [a] I'm a real fan of the @Scobleizer... and [b] I'm much nicer than some of these sassy bloofers. ;)
- Kim Sherrell
So what if you have all 58k + comment on here? And you have to keep everyone! And your plan is foiled, sir. Okay give or take 10k for the neglected abandoned twitters and the spammers. Btw, you're already following me on both twitter and here. But come on, you're not really. : /
- Lise
That's cool. I am finding the spammers too much to manage these days myself.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Because I can't keep myself from doing math, that's 1.1%.
- RobinDotNet
Lise: I see you a few times a day, but you're right. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Are you trying to make a point about FF v Twitter? I have spammy things to say about my amateur photography, potential homelessness, and run-ins with public-run health system in the US. Isn't all Twitter spam--just spam you want? :)
- Dean Hall
the auto-refresh on this thread is mind-blowing, fun to watch
- nchenga
Do you ever worry about SM burnout Robert? How do you pace your self?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Interesting to note many of most commented threads are in languages other than English. Can we suggest FF has a better international appeal than Twitter?
- Kaan Bingol
Good idea, as you say, stop juicing up the spammers - it'll be interesting to see the stats once you've finished.
- Andrew Piggott
Dean: your Tweets aren't spam. I might keep you. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
I only followed people who were interesting to me, otherwise it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack of brain dumps.
- Daniel Durrans
Exactly. So I expect to be cut. And considering I'm in a crowd of close to 60k, it'll be the same thing.
- Lise
There should be a counter in front of the comments...
- Willem Karssenberg
Lise: and because FriendFeed's search engine is better here too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, yeah I know. Thought you might have meant for your secretscoble twitter account ;)
- travispuk
It's kind of like a giant SM break up Robert. *Oh the hearts you are breaking...*
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
I'm fairly selective about who I follow and I follow so maybe you will follow me back!
- Richard Cunningham
from iPod
Robert, care to explain how you use groups in this kind of context? Because I don't get the point of following people who are then placed into a "I don't read this much" kind of group. How do you use groups so that you're (1) not overwhealmed, and (2) actually read what people are saying?
- Ian Betteridge
How many people do you expect to end up with, Robert? What is a reasonable number?
- Lise
You don't have to follow me on Twitter. I think the FriendFeed party palace is mighty fine.
- Josette
from fftogo
(Not that I'll probably see your response, btw - something at the bottom of 350+ responses is effectively buried until FF has better threading tools. Which I'm sure it will, some day.)
- Ian Betteridge
@Daniel - ditto, and for me it is generally development related also. Robert - I know you have to try and keep up with everything going on in the social media space, but I'm always surprised when people follow so many others as it must be extremely difficult to find the wheat in amongst all the chaff.
- Donald Matheson
Robert: I did not know about that search trick. Thanks!
- Menno te Koppele
Ian: a "I don't read this much" kind of group is awesome for serrendipity. Also, anyone who I find there who is high value gets quickly moved to a smaller group.
- Robert Scoble
What? Are you saying you're not following me already...? ;-)
- Jarno Peschier
Lise: on Twitter? Less than 2,000. I can't follow more.
- Robert Scoble
Jamo: I am already following you. Scott: why not? I am already following you too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it might be a problem for me re-gaining your following as my tweets are not 100% English only (whether that means trying to speak English or no English at all ;). How do you deal with occasional non-English tweeters? As that's clearly a noise for you.
- Tibor Holoda
if only twitter were as engaging as FriendFeed has become, and as instantaneous as things like this comment thread, then maybe I would use it more. Hence why I'm all for unfollowing who you conceive as uninteresting; and if that includes me, then so be it!
- Nick Soden
Tibor: I just skip over most of them. Sometimes I translate them to see if I was right.
- Robert Scoble
It is my hope that I provide you with something as interesting as what you provide me with. Either way, I will continue to peruse your posts with interest.
- Absentee
Hi, I'm still newish to this social media thang - but good on you for taking a stand.
- Jus
Do you prefer night owls? Because what about all the poor people in SV who went to bed at a decent hour and missed your post? Bummer for them, huh?
- RobinDotNet
I'm back from picking my wife up at the airport and ran across this on my way back to sleep.
- nuBound CEO - Mark
The wild and woolly blogosphere is replete with all sorts of good stuff. Hard to follow 500 people, let alone 1000. I applaud you for trying to take the reins.
- Jack B
It funny you put spammers, SEO experts, bots, social media experts all in one bucket. What are you implying? Btw, I'm none of these...
- Peter Chee
.. and it works!! Just got a mail saying Robert is following me now... :)
- Sudar
Peter: I did that to piss off the SEO experts. :-)
- Robert Scoble
This makes me realise that posting from Twitter as opposed to "to twitter from FF" allows the Twitter stream to grow on the back of FF comments ! otherwise not : as in my case - what do you think Robert ? FF to Twitter ? Or FF aggregating all your tweets ?
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
Nicholas: shhhh, you are discovering my secrets! I'm doing more and more from FriendFeed lately.
- Robert Scoble
I comment and you follow me. Its totally worth it
- Arvind
Arvind: even better I was following you before. Mobilepax: no. I really don't care about followers. Inbound is more important than who is listening to you.
- Robert Scoble
and does that mean I have to write in English from now on :)
- Mobilepax
Nice one - it's cool that you give friendfeed (and all the commenters of course ;-) much kudos.
- Alex Vermeule (@alexve)
If you just follow everyone in this thread, won't you just wind up with noise from 'engaged' people. I mean, does this solve the problem?
- Christopher Harper
Good thing its 4am and my car alarm went off, otherwise you wouldnt follow me! I had to look up a video online how to break the key fob apart becuase aparently its battery leaked and was self activating the panic switch. Damn VWs! a replacement key is only like 150 bucks!!
- Charlieray
Missionary: no. You have not discovered that FriendFeed has groups and MUCH BETTER search.
- Robert Scoble
Its funny that if you say "SEO" on twitter its an instant 10 followers
- Charlieray
I'd rather follow you on Friendfeed, Robert. Your tweets get cross posted here anyway, and there's a much greater sense of engagement in that conversation than there is over at Twitter.
- Andrew Terry
Everyone that "follows" you really does know you love FF. So did you build a tool to follow everyone back that comments on here or are you seriously going to manually follow people back?
- Peter Chee
Theres 451+ comment here, do you really follow *everyone*?
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
Because I am up at 1:20 a.m. PT, why not... I must be your target audience then.
- Georgiana Comsa
It must show you how many people enjoy engaging with you Robert, with the number of people posting here.
- Steve Farnworth
Amazing to see the comment thread to this entry expand constantly in real time.
- Christian Bolstad
Peter: I've manually followed everyone on this thread so far.
- Robert Scoble
Peter: although to be fair I've already followed quite a few people who have commented here.
- Robert Scoble
Hi, you are already following me. My solution to get rid of spammers on Twitter is to block them, that is what I do. If everyone started blocking them, I think things would improve
- Asgeir
What about the SEO experts who accidentally find this feed?
- phil baumann
Robert, but you're following commenters here, not on Twitter, right? Not that i care about Twitter that much, as for me it's just a pipeline. FF and FB are conversational platforms for me, or the places i hang out these days.
- Tibor Holoda
Aaman: Sleep? some of us are just starting the day. We're waiting for the US to go to sleep so we can talk about you ;-)
- Rachel Clarke
Spammers being blocked doesnt do anything as they are hoping for that 1 in 100 hit of someone clicking that link, eventually they get banned and create a new account.
- Charlieray
the term SEO expert is a crock of shit
- Charlieray
Marko: not true. It's better because it has very little spam. It's better because it has a better search engine. It's better because it has comments and likes. It's better because it's an aggregator. And more.
- Robert Scoble
you don't have to follow back. but i'll take the chance to say great work with building 43.
- Alexandre Gamela
from twhirl
Massimo: right up top. Heheh. Alexandre: thank you!
- Robert Scoble
After 6 months out of the social media loop I came back to a whole bunch of follows that I either couldn't remember who they were or why I had followed them - how can that be relevent? So, I culled my follows back to less than 200. I'm now just looking to find the signal amongst the noise.
- Colin Walker
What about FriendFeed? Is there any @notsecretscoble too?
- Ludwik C. Siadlak
Friendfeeding for Scoble to follow me while on vacation in Montauk. There is something wrong with me.
- Mitchell Schneider
Mitchell -- you just don't want to miss the fun.
- RobinDotNet
robkeynes -- nice to see you up and about
- RobinDotNet
Ludwik: no, because here I can just start a new list of users.
- Robert Scoble
Well, this has been fun to watch, but it's almost 2 a.m. and I have to be very smart tomorrow morning, which is easier when I'm not too tired, so everyone have a great [whatever comes next in your time zone].
- RobinDotNet
Robert, I'm trying to understand this follow/unfollow strategy you are applying as Napoleon Bonaparte on a battle field ;) Interested to know the result
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
I really do think the way Twitter has changed in the last few months, with all the media attention, certainly begs for it to be used differently now.
- Nicola Quinn
Wow that's a whole lot of people commenting in the last 2 hours, Rob - How many of the new people you are following from this list are NEW to friendfeed? (estimate?)
- Roy Herrod
Does this constitute a comment or are you looking for some insightful commentary on the state of new media? ;)
- Iwan
40%? This must have turned out to be one of the biggest promotions in FF history, even if it wasn't intended that way. BTW, I'm new to FF too.
- Dennis Jernberg
guess it's good to clean up the list once in a while.
- Yan PHUN
Ha ha, nice.... So any major ramifications from the mass unfollow?
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Alistair: other than losing about 1,000 followers so far? No major ramifications.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm coming out with a project in the Continuing Medical Education field in the next weeks so if you are interested, I wouldn't mind if you will follow me :-)
- Marco Fabbri
Won't tell anybody, specially Seo people, ssshhhh.....
- Giorgio Burlini
from iPhone
You had me at don't tell the spammers...
- Sean Kelly
I think it's a hoot. Now I'm wondering whether to reverse my recent move towards following more, not less. I do believe that from my experience so far FF is more attuned to building/maintaining community than is Twitter.
- Des Walsh
Des: on FriendFeed you can do both strategies at the same time. You can follow a lot more in one list while following even fewer in another.
- Robert Scoble
Des - Once more people re-engage in the conversation here, they'll realize the continuing outright potential of Friendfeed. I still some here before I read my e-mail
- Charlie Anzman
Hi Mr Scoble, I'm with you (but on a smaller scale) I unfollowed about 150 users on Friday, felt good! I pretty much hang out in FF now at my home page and my groups
- Lee
from iPod
wow...just wow :) Robert, you have many fans !!
- Hayk
Good luck on hiding from the bots, they have ways of finding people.... :)
- Chris Holm
well, who am I to refuse such a nice offer? here I am!!!
- niccolò vecchia
Good to hear! I have only ~2000 followers, but I can't follow more at the moment due to Twitter's follow limit rule.
- Martin Lindeskog
Great way to test the chemistry between FF and Twitter. I like it.
- E-Advocate Network
Robert - I'am definitely not a spammer when it comes to broadcasting anything to people, who doesn't want to hear it :) but I do sometimes respond (mostly on twitter so @reply) to some tweets not aimed on me, but that's what everybody actually asks for when publicly broadcasting anything.
- Dušan Šimonovič
Shhh...don't tell anyone but I'm neither of those (the spammers, SEO experts, the bots, or the social media experts,) though, I like the heck out of the concept of this thread...
- Vincent Wright
Good idea about the unfollow. It was an interesting experiment whilst it lasted but given your lifestyle I'm sure most Twitter messages just passed you by. I never DM'd you however, it was nice to think that I had the option if I wanted to. Anyway I've been on FF for ages now, and what I need is a good FF app (for pc), any ideas anyone?
- Nick Bristow
Nick: I just use a browser with FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Only 530 comments so far? Come on people you are not even trying.
- John Cooper
@Rob Sellen, did you see the comments on the most recent ffundercats podcast entry. http://friendfeed.com/ffunder... Over 1000 in a very short period of time. Although I expect that this post will also get up to those levels.
- travispuk
NOTICE: I am closing comments here because I gotta get some sleep. I'll consider doing this again sometime. Sorry if you didn't get in, but see you tomorrow night.
- Robert Scoble
"Robin Soderling caused the biggest shock in recent French Open history with a four-set win against defending champion Rafael Nadal."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Holy Shit! I dont think anyone saw that coming. This beats the Magics beating Cavs by miles. Man that was awesome to watch. Also noticed how Ana Ivanvic lost and no one seems to care. Women's tennis just keeps going downhill.
- Freddie Benjamin
Location based aggregated travel info, down to the street level. I want to be able to instantly know historical facts, reviews, tips, etc. about the building I'm looking at right now.
- Jason Goldberg
A user-curated/voted guide to the best expert advice on anything.
- Jason Goldberg
dont these all exsit or are possible today, bringing together lots of sites... whats stopping us doing these now. is it just the user interface?
- Nigel Walsh
that said, I like your idea.... we should have a news network that starts with positive news!
- Nigel Walsh
@Nigel --> it's all doable with stuff that's out there. That's the best part of where the net is right now. It's all online, now we get to build cool services to make sense of it.
- Jason Goldberg
Jason, this is an interesting idea. Regarding the "expert advice" thing, I would love to get a good version of product recommendations, but in a "wizard" format. Look at HDTVs, I should be asked questions about size, price, picture quality and maybe one or two other things and it should give me the best fit.
- Rob Diana
Jason: the first two could probably done pretty easily as Mahalo apps.
- Christian Anderson
Seems to me mashup apps are going to get huge. The companies that have the most open APIs with deep access to information will win the next round.
- Christian Anderson
Further speculation: of the 100, 49 will be localized- or verticalized-search related. Another 49 will be mashups that tie econmerce to existing search tools such that the commerce gets more targeted and powered by one's social graph.
- Christian Anderson
I think the people driven social space needs a metric. Something portable that identifies users contributions and influence. Something peer mediated.
- Richard Zeidel
Christian, I hope you are right about mashups being huge, that would help me a lot :) However, I am not sold on social ecommerce. Product reviews are good, but the "power of the network" or social graph may not extend well with commerce. The social graph tends to use the idea that several people in your network are experts in something. Commerce does not work quite in the same way.
- Rob Diana
Richard, I do not know if peers want to "mediate" as much as knowing how they rank. It is the selfish part of social that drives that. Once you start listing or ranking people, you get the whole a-list and a-list backlash problems. Just look at what is happening with Scoble's list today, http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Rob Diana
Point your smartphone or iPhone at a house or building, and get all the background information. (This is potentially scary -- one could get all the background information on the residents or inhabitants of the house or building. This is doable now -- the technology and data are there.)
- Sean McBride
One startup idea I wish we had was a unified communication platform. Basically, email, IM, twitter, friendfeed or whatever hook into one big "thing". This could probably start as a web app, and branch into mobile and and thick client apps as well.
- Rob Diana
Rob: I'm more hopeful on the ecommerce side. For example, I have several photo geeks in my social graph. I'm thinking about buying a DSLR. They know me and suggested a D90. It's not so hard to imagine someone suggesting where to buy one or even selling me theirs over ff or whatever.
- Christian Anderson
I agree with Rob. "a unified communication platform" could make life way easier for me. Streamy comes close but I am struggling with the interface. another startup that could be helpful is one that does location based social networking no matter where you travel...couchsurfing, socialect and localwoot do similar stuff. i wish the three could be combined :-)
- Freddie Benjamin
Rob: Here's the disconnect for me. The Social Space is about the individual and the individual's positioning is based on their own packaging, contributions etc. Influence is a key factor - Twitter started with followers, Facebook has friends, LinkedIn has connections. But qualitative data begs the SFW - so fukin what!?! We need a measure to understand people and their place - and i...
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- Richard Zeidel
Point your smartphone or iPhone at *anything* and get all the background information. Think about that. Products at stores. Places. People. Documents. Vehicles. Any physical entity.
- Sean McBride
@christian -- *could* be done via something like mahalo but i think they are more pure play apps. the first is more of a killer iphone app. I have been traveling so much lately that i want something like this. A service that literally can tell you everything interesting you need to know about the exact place you are at right this minute. The info is already out there online, it just...
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- Jason Goldberg
Nigel: In keeping with your positive news network idea, I'd love to do a series in manner of The Soup... a possibly humorous weekly recap of web culture news (from trending topics and blog top stories to start-up coverage and web series highlights).
- Sarah Crisman
Book Recycling. I'd like to see a method developed that would remove the printing from old books and reprint new text..
- Bill Bittner
Jason -- this idea of yours has occurred to me many times, so naturally I think it's brilliant. :) One of the tricks would be to prioritize the mountains of information associated with any given place.
- Sean McBride
Richard -- got it: fantastic link to the work of Pattie Maes and Pranav Mistry at the MIT Media Lab.
- Sean McBride
Death Alarm: Follow my online activity via RSS feeds (blog, twitter, facebook etc..) to determine if I am dead!, and if so, activate my afterlife macros. Macros include: sending my letters (e-mails) to family, updating statuses("farewell everyone"), posting blog. Death will be triggered by configurable idle time counter (no status updates for 30 days for instance), followed by e-mail...
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- denizoktar
@sean I would love to know the history of my house - I have a picutre from 1926 when it was just a field, yet a year later it was built... who by, who lived here -
- Nigel Walsh
how about a feature request so that when you comment @nigel or otherwise it alerts you on Friend Feed!
- Nigel Walsh
you know I was thinking earlier - Monday, better Detox, would love to use twitter for global support and tweet what I eat - and everything I tweet, automatically get counted for me and emailed to me every day against a plan.. I rushed back to the PC and someone had done it - almost identical to my thoughts... either Im getting slow or someone has read my mind!
- Nigel Walsh
@Rob - Isn't this Digsby or something similar - the only thing that misses is Skype. Im also doing a lot of work with people like Cisco right now and they have some very cool UC stuff out or coming out - linking Presence and various other API's. Im doing this as part of an Enterprise Mashup - but this could easily be consumer based.
- Nigel Walsh
Twitting credit card. Choose which kind of activities with your credit card to be twittered in your account.For instance: Visa, please twit everything I eat.(Inspired by Nigel) Whenever I buy a food, it will be twittered. (I am assuming credit cards keep track of each item bought. Do they? Here they don't)
- denizoktar
One important start up - web 2.0 for education - there are people in the field but it is not "easy yet". Education is inherently conservative and slow to change - something stupidly simple that would allow/teach/train educators how to use and be successful in web 2.0 would be a great startup. Heck i'd even invest in that one.
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Another important start up - portable health care - in that people can have an electronic version of their health care records, everything that they can carry with them. Personally it should be implanted, on a special card, and be very secure, up datable. The fun part would be dealing with people's MRI's, and other imagery/telemetry systems.
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
A critical piece of the social web is status/rank. All the successful plays have some method of measuring one popularity/authority.
- Christian Anderson
A just for fun startup - a true and reliable way to rank internet success, while we have ffholic, twitterholic, compete, quantcast, and other systems, where is the one that ties all this together, is reliable, is accurate, and can not be gamed?
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Jason: yep, a location-aware iPhone app from mahalo could do what you want.
- Christian Anderson
Dan: isn't that internal conversion tracking tools? Or were you wanting to measure other sites?
- Christian Anderson
this probably exsits (someone let me know if it does) but when I comment on blogs I want it to update FF automatically - eg Disquss...
- Nigel Walsh
Ok. try this one on for size. I'm gonna create a website where every feature, including the first thing we build, is decided by a weekly vote of our users.
- Jason Goldberg
give me a chip no bigger than a credit card which recharges my blackberry in 10 minutes
- Jason Goldberg
an online incubator that turned an idea(s) into a working site in days not weeks or months..
- Nigel Walsh
Days? Let's throw something together, halfassed, let it go down all the time while we get it working over many years. Days would be great, but if you want something good, you can't throw it together in days.
- Dean Clark
I'd like to see a mashup that would work for open networks like twitter, digg, friendfeed etc. that would allow community walls. a block would trigger a whole community to block the same person till a person within the community unblocked. open networks are dying because people don't want to comment on threads with people that they know they don't like. it could be voluntary. we would call these "Unions" and you would have to agree to be a part of one and you could always leave.
- NoahDavidSimon
Some great ideas here. Really like the unified communications idea.
- Gavin
How about a startup that encourages hobbies for school aged children
- Anthony Farrior
or a startup/networks for artists and animation. Perhaps something that has online tools and copyright ownership. For an extra fee provide help with networking and distribution.
- Anthony Farrior
or a start up like peek that provide gps and text communication between parents and kids
- Anthony Farrior
or a start up for upcoming clothing designers(not tee shirt stuff) where,again, for an extra fee, networking and real store distribution is provided.
- Anthony Farrior
last one, someone PLEASE make me a mobile video phone...As in "Hi yes, i can hear you and see you."
- Anthony Farrior
A free 'app' that helps re-educate those displaced by the Internet / automation / tech revolution.
- Charlie Anzman
Jason, this would be a great idea for a room here. You could create an identical one on socialmedian and import the RSS feed from it over here. If I have one criticism about friendfeed, it’s that so much of what is shared here, winds up in the rear view mirror, and is quickly forgotten.
- Michael Fidler
I can see why you would like a location based service like the one you described. There’s something like it on the iPhone, but I tried to find the name of it on Google with no luck. Additionally a lot of information just became public which would help with such an app. I would like something along the lines of what Rob mentioned, "A unified communication platform". I have a few more ideas but I need to find some info. first.
- Michael Fidler
Jason, there’s a site like the one you mentioned about user decided features also. Loic used it to decide what features to add to Twhirl. It’s called Uservoice http://bit.ly/ykT5
- Michael Fidler
We've already started a series of hyperlocal "best of Twitter" city sites like http://BreakingLANews.com. It's a grass roots initiative that provides these city templates free to community hubs and groups in each city, down to towns like Chico, CA http://ChicoBreakingNews.com. It's a unique way to propagate a new hyperlocal marketing model that, unlike sites like Topix, directly involves members of the community.
- Pat Kitano
Expanding on the UC idea, I was thinking someone could write a connector for twitter that in essence links twitter to all other chat clients, ie if you tweet msn:ndwalsh then you chat with me.. Same for skype:nigelwals, icq: etc etc... The ultimate comms platform
- Nigel Walsh
@michaelfidler: yes, we use uservoice at XING. It's a great tool! What I'm talking about is using a tool like uservoice in a whole new way, to decide everything from the first line of code onwards.
- Jason Goldberg
Hmm I work on a location based iPhone app and unfortunately the GPS is too often not accurate enough to pinpoint the building you're in but can usually narrow you down to a 100 meter area. Also we need a magnetometer on the iPhone to do any accurate pointing (but it's coming in june they say...)
- Raj Advani
Raj, the other option would be to provide users a 3D map of nearby buildings so that they could use their human intelligence to find their correct location. But that might be hard to implement in an iPhone app. ;-)
- Bruce Lewis
Nigel Walsh, Backtype will import all your comments on blogs to FF. FF is even smart about not duplicating your Disqus items here.
- Bruce Lewis
One of my weird ideas: Create a User Profile Management Site that allows users to create / update a common "User profile" (could have multiple "personality" profiles - work, personal, family, etc). The profile site updates would push out to a gazillion other sites and update user profile settings with each update. API adoption by a number of other apps is a must, obviously. The idea...
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- Susan Beebe
Distributed Indexing (Search Engine, Classifieds, Auctions, Real Estate) Like MLS for web directories / search engines.
- Matt Robson
@Susan I've been thinking of something like that for a while.
- Gavin
@Susan, @Gavin something like chi.mp maybe?
- Dragos Ilinca
I'd really appreciate some feed back on the idea I stated above. I think it addresses a very serious issue in making "open" networks acceptable to the mainstream. I'd really like to hear from some tech people if it is feasible: making open networks acceptable for more people http://ff.im/3i7y9
- NoahDavidSimon
Coin-based economy for kids to help them skirt the issue entirely of having to ask parents for their credit card to play online games. Coins are kid money (and their parents nuisance money). Let's get coin value translated to online money and watch the revenue pour in.
- scott epstein
I want an app that will accurately predict the closing price of the Dow for any given day in the future. I know it’s not realistic, just call me a dreamer.
- Michael Fidler
Jason, I was thinking about your idea today, and that would be an interesting experiment. You could call it Tabula rasa. It’s definitely worth trying.
- Michael Fidler
I had this startup-idea: http://prezi.com/20331/view/ but I droped it. Now I have another one: 1. Start a communities for science & business topics, 2. provide Conference-Life-Streams with Twitter-Comments as usp like this: http://www.ustream.tv/channel..., 3. Provide further information like news, topic-monitoring (twitter), publications-research, 4. Track the use...
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- www.louis-e.de
oh, it's a bit similar to social median, I see ;-) Didn't know that before, sorry. But I can't find info-portals with meme-tracking-technique there. And no conference-streaming. So will built your competitor, haha...
- www.louis-e.de
Just in case people really liked the "unified communications platform" idea, I believe it is now called Wave, from Google (http://wave.google.com/).
- Rob Diana
Nother idea for startup: when riding public transport, service sends notification when friends are on the same train/bus etc.
- André Gallinat
You were right on the money, Rob. Nice Job!
- Michael Fidler
A Google Wave app that integrates with Google Health to provide real-time healthcare between Payers and Providers
- Jesse Stay
"Awesome fish tacos. Probably the best fish tacos i've had. The crispy friend fish, with the guacamole in a crispy taco shell .. mmmm"
- Aloke Fernandes